The ACT Party's disputing the Police Minister's claims around prison numbers.
In an interview on Newstalk ZB, Ginny Andersen claimed the reduction in prison numbers is primarily due to fewer people in prison on driving and low level drug offences like cannabis.
However, Stats NZ figures show since 2017 the largest drop was offences against justice procedures, government security, and operations; followed by acts intended to cause injury; and unlawful entry with intent.
David Seymour told Mike Hosking that he's not sure how Andersen got it wrong.
He says they tried every year back to 1998, and there's just no way to get the result she got.
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