Kiwis are leaving New Zealand at record highs - but net migration is still up.
For June this year net migration rose to 86,000, the largest it has been in three years.
The increase is down to a gain of 121,600 non-New Zealand citizens which was offset by a loss of 34,800 New Zealand citizens.
Massey University Sociologist and Immigration specialist Paul Spoonley joined Mike Hosking to discuss.
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