Full Show Podcast: 19 June 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
Mic Hosking Breakfast with our Veda Live the age you
feel news talk said.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Be welling and welcome today. Changes to courts to speak
things up, changes to public worksack to speak things up.
The idea that MP should get greater security in the community,
in that Parliament's guard should be able to arrest and
detain people. Mark and Jinny Politics Wednesday. Of course after
a Richard Arnold and seed price, they are batter up
as well. Pasking reel and good Wednesday Morning, seven past six,
different approach, same result. Hey, carbon auction this week is

(00:31):
the government's chance to earn hundreds of millions of dollars.
Un Lest we forget the government needs hundreds of millions
of dollars. Last government failed at all four times last
year to raise a cent. Not one of the auctions
sold a thing. The price set. The market looks at
the price and works out whether it wants to pay
that price. Last year they looked four times and said
no thanks. This week's auction will most likely, they say,

(00:53):
have the same result. So what do you have sort
of as a different issue, same outcome.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Now.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
The reason the last government failed was. They kept messing
with the rules, what farmers could or should be paying
for ETS, what the demands of the ETS were. Ironically,
this government has loosened things up. Now the farmers now
are not part of the ETS. So HEYWOKACHNOA is in
the bin they start again. Lord knows what comes out
of that. Last week they let the Forestones out of
their ETS payment this year. A lot of people thought

(01:17):
that's good, sensible stuff. But what it also is is
an interference in the market. What will the government do next?
No one knows, So you don't want to enter an
auction process based on a moving field. Peter Dutton in
Australia now looking to get them out of the Paris Accord.
Now that really is shifting the goalposts. Is it impossible
to think we may end up in a similar spot?
Who would know? And that's the point, no one does.

(01:39):
Europe voted against the Greens last week. Climate change has
been reassigned by the voter. With all this going on,
an invented market, which is all the carbon market is,
is not stable, predictable or consistent enough to encourage people
to buy into a concept that is clearly moving with
the times. So if the experts are right, no sale
and with no sale, no money.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Why views of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Growing lining up as we speak to answer some questions
on the Hillie of their inability to put a plane together. Also,
and we'll have more on that light or also on
the hill of COVID inquiry rolls on. Josh Holly particularly exercised.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
The propaganda involved in the origins of COVID nineteen is
astounding to me. It recalls the worst of the wartime
propaganda in years past, and the government would deliberately lie
to people and here that's what they have been doing
with COVID nineteen, or are still doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
The lab league theory is still alive, and well, do.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
You stand by your assertion and your nature stars, COVID
two is not a laboratory construct.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
We do. And that's exactly the same possibly the conclusion
that the intelligence community came to.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
No, that is a lie. Let's stop right there. That
is a lie. Republicans also lining up the Big convention.
Of course next month, someone was wondering, what are the
mind blokes in jail?

Speaker 6 (02:52):
We will have every contingency covered, But I'm telling you this,
We fully expect that he is going to be there
in Milwaukee to accept his nomination. When you look at
all of the stars in the Republican constellation right now,
we feel like we are a true representation of the
American dream.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Then we find Anthony Blincoln still circling the world, trouble
spot to trouble spot. Today's with NATO.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
At the heart of NATO.

Speaker 7 (03:14):
It's a commitment from each ally to come to the
defense of any other ally that may be the victim
of progression, and that means that it would be aggressor
considering taking action, knows that if they pick a fight
with one, they pick a fight with all.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Just before we leave the Studes, justin Timberlake appears to
have had a drink and decided to drive.

Speaker 8 (03:31):
He was arrested for driving while intoxicated in the Sack
Harbor area of the Hamptons. It's a bit of a
celebrity hot spot. Lots of cool bars, lots of cool restaurant.
It's very affluent area.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
A lot of drunk spy on the wheel clearly as well.
And in the UK, Rushi has been on a farm
campaigning and dreaming of sleep this week.

Speaker 9 (03:48):
I'm very glad because I'm going to get to spend
a night at home in my own bet. You might think, well,
why is that relevant for you? It's because, as David says,
my home is in North Yorkshire, like you, one of
the most beautiful rural parts of our our country. My
neighbor is a dairy farmer, and the NFU reliably tells
me that I represent more sheep than people.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
You wonder why he's losing. Finally, the US Preventative Services
Task Force has been looking at how primary care clinicians
i e. Doctors can help kids with high BMI I
fat kids. They recommend twenty six hours of intensive behavior coaching,
so as you can imagine, the doctors not particularly thrilled
about that. And that's news of the world and weird
advice in ninety seconds this time yesterday, by the way,

(04:28):
head a quick word. Andrew mentioned it in Fertilla after
some money. Now they raised it successfully raised a billion
dollars yesterday, attracted demand well in excess of the placement
size came from both existing shareholders and new investments, so investors.
So that's a that's a good news story. In boider,
we need some of those eleven pass.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Six the my costeme breakfast.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I'm assuming the FED like this out of the states
made retail sales up zero point one percent? Is that
a lot? Not a lot obviously, but it was below
the zero point two percent they thought, so maybe a
little bit softer than they were expecting. That all the
boats well for an interest rate cut. I guess sporteen
parts six from JM I Wealth Andrew kellerher, good morning,
Good morning, Mike. Those numbers in the dairy auction they're okay?

(05:10):
Is that had to say?

Speaker 10 (05:11):
Okay, a small disruption, a wrinkle in the what has
been a very constructive trend of outcomes in the global
dairy trade auctions that, Mike, The trend that we're sort
of following started back in August twenty twenty three.

Speaker 11 (05:24):
At that stage, your Global Dairy Trade Price Index was
at eight hundred and fifty. That the index level and
the trendsit said has been undeniably up, but it hasn't
been without a couple of dips mic, which is how
financial markets work. Straight lines don't happen. That index is
now one one hundred and fifty seven, so it's thirty
six thirty six percent higher than it was back in August.

(05:48):
But Overnight the price index has fallen as zero point
five percent. It's a relatively modest replacement. As you say,
skim milk powder is actually up zero point seven percent.
It's been sort of tracking sideways. You've had positive outcomes
of that since March. It's now challenging. What was the
recent high of the average price of twenty eight hundred

(06:09):
years dollars a metric ton whole milk powder was the villain,
if there was a villain. Overnight it fell to two
and a half percent. That's the first four sentence.

Speaker 12 (06:16):
March.

Speaker 11 (06:17):
There was a global dairy trade what they call a
pulse auction on the eleventh of June. It was pretty flat,
so it sort of indicated that maybe a little bit
of the froth was coming out of the market. I've
got a trend here yet, Mike. I think we're in
a watching brief. I don't think this will impact on
the forecast farm Gate milk.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Price, consumer confidence down eleven. You can't find.

Speaker 12 (06:39):
From that, you can't.

Speaker 11 (06:40):
So this is the Westpac McDermott Miller consumer confidence released yesterday.
So given the run of soggy week anemic data recently,
I certainly wouldn't have expected a ripper result from the survey,
and in that regard, Mike, our expectations were rewarded. The
headline consumer Confidence index fell eleven points eight two point two.

(07:00):
That is a material for this A quarterly survey might
so you don't get the volatility of the high frequenty
sort of monthly stuff. The previous two cordly figures had
seen a bit of a bounce, but as we've talked
about it, sentiment has turned its sour eighty two point two.
The long term average is one hundred and seven point
nine on this survey, so we are a long way

(07:21):
under that confidence is low right across the country and
across all age groups, what we would term indiscriminate weakness.
The survey does differentiate between present and expected conditions. Present
conditions are even weaker than the headline at seventy four
point four.

Speaker 12 (07:37):
Look, there is, as always some stubborn optimism.

Speaker 11 (07:39):
Expected conditions are higher eighty seven point three. Forty two
percent of households that were spoken to said their financial
position has deteriorated over the past year, issues like softening
jobs markets, job security. They're are coming to the four
just looking at that age breakdown.

Speaker 12 (07:56):
If anything, the downturn end.

Speaker 11 (07:58):
Consumer confidence is more pronounced than aged, less than fifty,
not unexpected, more likely to have mortgages.

Speaker 12 (08:05):
Look at the regional breakdown. It's everywhere.

Speaker 11 (08:08):
And I just keep asking myself the question, Mike, what's
the catalyst that turns this around? What is it that
happens that changes the way we view questions? Will that's
a philosophical question.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
A very good question. Nevertheless, the RB yesterday four three five,
they're still not ruling out a hike, are they?

Speaker 12 (08:23):
No, they're not.

Speaker 11 (08:24):
This is kind of this is so they revealed the
cash right across the Tasman are left at four point
three five.

Speaker 12 (08:29):
But you know, it was on balance mildly hawkish.

Speaker 11 (08:31):
They say they're keeping all options open, which infers cut
or hike. Recent data has been mixed. They reinforced they
need to remain vigilant. Yeah, shot across the bow of
the financial market. They said they will do what is
necessary to achieve the inflation target. They do mention concerns
over the expansionary, potentially expansory state and federal budgets sort

(08:53):
of stoking demand. Remember, Mike, this is also an economy
with growth challenges. Their GDP zero point Yeah, you've got
headlines now, go Google headlines that people are talking about
a potential hike in August.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
So got one to watch there, twenty old times. What
are the numbers?

Speaker 12 (09:09):
Yeah, very quickly.

Speaker 11 (09:10):
Just overnight, BP have sold their steak in channel infrastructure.
Channel used to be the old New Zealand Refining. Yeah,
so they've sold that stake of night. That'll all be
reported this morning.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
There.

Speaker 11 (09:20):
I think the z Energy the only legacy all company
now left in channel infrastructure. Now the Dow Junes Dow
Jones is.

Speaker 12 (09:27):
We'll call it flat.

Speaker 11 (09:28):
It's up three points thirty eight thousand, seven hundred and eighty.
The S and P five hundred, we'll also call this flat.
It's up four points five four seven seven And you
know what, I think we'll repeat that on the NASZEK.

Speaker 12 (09:38):
It's gone nowhere as well. Seventeen eight hundred and fifty.

Speaker 11 (09:41):
Five forty one hundred overnight gain points six percent eight
one nine one. The NICK was up one percent three
eight for eight to two Shanghai comps it up. I
call it half a percent three thousand and thirty. The
A six two hundred yesday gained one percent seven seven
seven eight. That close there in the NZECS fifty gained
about eleven thousand, seven hundred and sixty seven The close

(10:05):
one M dollar on the wholesale markets will get you
point sixty one four to one US point nine two
three to ossie point five to seven to Euro point
four eight three four pounds ninety six point nine four
against the Japanese end gold two thousand, three hundred and
thirty dollars and an unwelcome lift in the Brent oil
price eighty four dollars and ninety six cents.

Speaker 12 (10:26):
All right, mate, don't want to see that continue.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
We do not want to see that continue. Go well,
I will see tomorrow. Andrew Kellohjmiwealth dot co dot m ZSK.
Good news out of be in New Zealand yesterday. The
boosting capacity into Japan. Thirty thousand more seats, Augland, Tokyo.
They've got more leased planes. I'm not a fan of
those because some of them aren't that flash anyway. Be
that as it may. So there's more seats going into
this region. Fifty five thousand more seats across Singapore, Tokyo, Taipei.

(10:49):
This is November this year to March next year. Higher
proportion of premium seats some of them. They're claiming that
you may have some new rugs and blankets and pillows.
I'm not sure that that's going to somehow tune your holiday.
I was going to go to Los Angeles, but if
I get one of their new pillows, I'm going to
go to Tokyo. I don't think that works that way.
They've got three least Cafe Pacific Triple sevens. I know
people who've been on those, and if the quality of

(11:11):
the plane experience means anything to you. Six twenty one,
there a news talk said, be.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
The Mike Hosking breakfast.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I love texts that start this way. Mike Hosking, you
know where that's going. After that, Mike Hosking, you'll notice
the forty four thousand tickets sold for the game on Saturday.
After your biased comments Monday morning, my comments went biased.
The comments were on the fact that there weren't many
tickets sold in the semi final of the Super Rugby.
That's not biased, it's just a statement of fact. If
you saw the crowd or lack of it, there were
no people. I'm stoked the thing that's sold out. And

(11:46):
later on this morning we'll be talking to Andrew wholl
who's the boss of the Blues as to what's happened there?
Is it just the final Is it a whole bunch
of chief fans coming in from Hamilton? Is Auckland different
to the rest of the country. But I mean thrilled,
absolutely thrilled that the rugby sold up. It's all based
on my ongoing theory that sport globally is going absolutely
gangbusters at the moment and rugby seems to be having

(12:07):
a problem. That's all I was asking, Mike. If everyone's
unhappy and seemingly leaving most places in the world in
which they live, where's everyone going? Where's Utopia? What an
excellent question, What a fantastically good question, And I have
the answer for you just before seven o'clock. It could
be this, though it's not, but it could be this,
Steve writes to me, Mike, I know how important things

(12:31):
here are. To keep things brief. I'm a virgin emailer
to you. Just wanted to say that I listen to this.
I live in Europe for six months of the year
and the remainder in New Zealand. I have business interests
in New Zealand, homes and family. But one thing that
keeps me connected and totally informed, enlightened, entertaining, a your
ninety minute a Bridge podcasts that I listen to religiously
every morning New Zealand evening time. I just wanted to

(12:52):
give you a heads up as to how valuable my
friends and I find them are, just to say, keep
up the good work. It's a brilliant product. That's not
the point of the email. I mean, is very nice email.
And I wrote back to him, I said, that's a
very nice email, Steve. How do I get your life?
Six months on, six months off?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
And he sent me a photo of a beautiful European
looking bar with people having drinks and sangreas and cocktails
and aperatives, and do you know where he is? Monica?
Six months a year in Monaco, six months in New Zealand.
How good?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
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big brand.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Skincareing the dream a well. Second night, second interruption for Seinfeld.
This time it was a couple of people who stood
up and yelled and waved a Palestinian flag. Imagine going
to a show like this. In fact, you get the
chance next week. He's here anyway, he gave a bit. Boy,

(13:47):
he gave a bit of what he gave on Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
You're doing pay.

Speaker 13 (13:51):
You're getting them on your side, can you hear him?
You have strong vitical feelings, but you don't know where
to save them. Do you think that ruining the night
it doesn't affect me? All these people you're ruining their names?

Speaker 14 (14:11):
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
So anyway, I told our seventeen eighteen year old who's
going next week? I think she's going on Tuesday. I said,
stop making that Palestinian flag. It is not going to
go down well and your mom and your mom is
not going to be happy when you start waving it.
I'm kidding use for you in a couple of moments.
Then we've got problems with the fairies. We got old

(14:38):
planes and we got old fairies, and neither of them
seemed to be up to much in the cost of
looking after them is going up and up, andy up,
And so we'll crunch you through some of these new numbers.
After the News, which is next US Talk said.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Week you're trusted home the News for Entertainment Opinion and
Mike Mike Costing Breakfast with Jaguar, The Art of performance
News Talk, said Mike Hoskins.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Another one got my name wrong, Mike Hoskins. No viewership
numbers for a league game in this country outstrip Super
Rugby Fact fact facts. Let me give you a few facts,
my friend. Most popular rugby game, Super Rugby game this
season are up until the latest numbers Chiefs v. Crusaders.
It was March twenty nine, four hundred and eighty two

(15:22):
thousand people watch that game. That's rugby, Super Rugby four
eight two. Most popular league game this season. Worries v.
Raiders March twenty two, for eight nine four eight nine
beats four eight two Facts Fax Facts twenty three minutes
away from.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Seven after.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Five hundred thousand people in America are legally and Big
Joe says, come on in and you wonder why it's
an election issue. Richard Arnold with more on that shortly meantime.
Back here, the focus this week has been on old planes.
Don't forget about the old fairies. We've got some of
those as well. Key We Rail now estimate annual maintenance
costs for the inter Islander could double. The sixty five
million dollars. Is the greatest thing the inter Islander ever did.

(15:59):
That jingle man. Yeah, since this was peak fairy, wasn't it.
I mean it wasn't there. The fairy was never any good,
but at least the song was okay there for a while.
Public Transport Uses Association National coordinator John Reeves as well
as John very good morning to.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
You, Very good morning to you, Mike.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
When were you.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Last on the Faerry?

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Well, finily enough, I'm booked on for next Wednesday, and
I'm hoping.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
It will go Are you a regular or not?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Really? About once a year I use it?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
And of your recent experience, I mean, I haven't been
on for years, and it used to be of moderate
excitement and you could buy a drink and some biscuits
and watch television and then see the big swells and
the cook straight and all that sort of stuff. Is
it still fun when it goes?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Well? I've been fortunate every time I've used it, I
haven't had the huge swells. I've had quite sunny experiences.
Now I'm not sure what it's going to be like
next week, and I'm touchwood hoping that it'll actually leave.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
What do you pay for that? By the way, how
much is the fairy a crossing?

Speaker 15 (16:55):
This?

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Moving a car? Across it's about two hundred and twelve dollars.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, that doesn't seem bad to me. Anyway, back to
more important matters, the sixty five million. Are you one
of those people you said we should have gone with
the three or four billion dollar project that the government cancel.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Well, look, yes and no, yes and no. Yes for
the boats. The boats were a steal at five hundred
and sixty million for the pair. It's really the land
side infrastructure which was just going out of hand, and
I agree with that. Part of what the government's decision
was was to cancel that. They could have upgraded the
existing infrastructure. However, canceling those boats. They were a steel
and we simply cannot get even a used Corolla that's

(17:31):
usable on that cook straight for those sort of prices.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I'm glad you said that. We talked to the unions
earlier on and we came to the same agreement. So
the land side was the problem. Get the fairies. If
you can get some decent firies, that solves our problem
for now, because rightly or wrong, that we just don't
have three billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
That's right, that's right. So we've missed. Oh look, I
hope the government could renegotiate with Hyndi right now and
just say yes, maybe we're going to have to pay
an extra one hundred million penalty, which still would be
the cheapest option, would go back and keep the ferries
back on construction.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, exactly, because getting embarrassing, isn't it with the fairies
in the seven five seven this week, which is all
you could we look third world?

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, well, the seven five sevens, right, they actually typify
the same issue with the Entirelanders, except it's easier to
replace the seven five sevens than it is the Intirelanders,
and New Zealand's global image special tourism is tarnished with
very bad in Thailand ferries.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
And of course it's directly linked with tourism as well.
And enjoy trip next week, John, appreciate your time very much.
John Reefs, Public Transport Users Association National Coordinator, twenty minutes
away from seven asking my question for Mark. Later this morning,
Zelenski canceled the elections in Ukraine. His previous term expired
May twenty, so he is the unelected leader of Ukraine,
kind of like these poo pood of being dictators in

(18:44):
those other nations. Is this the rules based order of
Western civilization refers to as the pursuit of democracy, which
New Zealand is mindlessly on the global stage supporting Travis,
You're being needlessly aggressive here because I can put you
on to three different reports I've read recently, CNBC, BBC,
CNN all basically said the same thing. Yes, his term expired.
Everyone agrees. Everyone agrees there is not a hope in

(19:08):
hell of running an election in a war zone. No
one runs an election in the middle of a war.
Second of all, they also all agree that Zelenski is
there at the behest and goodwill of the people. So,
in other words, there is no pushback, there is no uprising.
They understand their circumstances. They would have had an election
if they could have had an election. They can't. So
I don't think there's an issue there. I think you're

(19:28):
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Speaker 2 (20:42):
The Thailand Sooner past their marriage of quality laws are
become the third Asian territory to recognize same sex couples.
Sort of ironic, isn't it, given what we've done in
this country and how long ago we did it? Anyway
past the final reading, Nepal and Taiwan are the other ones.
Six forty five. Time to go to the States. Richard Nald,
Very good morning to you, good one. You make Boeing.
What have we heard so far? It was supposed to

(21:02):
start about forty five ago, wasn't it.

Speaker 16 (21:04):
Yeah, we'll just getting into this hearing, so has had
for timing. The boss are Boeing summoned to Capitol Hill
for questioning. That's CEO David calhouna is in the witness
chair at this moment as his critics on the homelowned
Security panel are slamming what they call a quote broken
safety culture at Boeing. Now another Boeing whistleblower has come
forward in tandem with this equality insurance fellow, Sam Mohawk.

(21:25):
This man, it's just the latest, as you know, in
a series of Boeing insiders who claim the aircraft maker
cut corners to raise their profits more and more and
retaliated against employees who spoke up about some of the
problems that were involved in doing that. All this, of course,
follows a series of disastrous incidents for Boeing, most notably
the Alaska Airlines blowout, where the Boeing jet lost the

(21:47):
door panel in midflight, luckily no one dying, and that
since then, we have heard from a number of Boeing
insiders who say the production processes at Boeing have been
seriously degraded in recent times. One Boeing quality engineer the
company isolated and threatened him after he raised concerns that
the fuselage on the company's seven eighty seven dream Liner

(22:08):
were not properly fused together as that aircraft was being finalized,
and that this floor could lead to the plane breaking
apart in mid flight. The company said they addressed that
this latest whistleblower Sam Mohawk alleges are Boeing properly tracked
and stored faulty parts, and that some of those faulty
parts likely were installed on planes, including the seven thirty

(22:28):
seven Max. Speaking a short time ago, the Boeing boss
made this assertion about reviewing their system since the Alaska
Airlines debarcle.

Speaker 15 (22:36):
We've asked every one of our employees to consider themselves
an aviation safety advocate. We're committed to making sure every
employee feels empowered to speak up if they see a problem.

Speaker 16 (22:46):
Well, the head of the Senate panel, Richard Blumenthal differs
and says of this latest whistleblower, now, his account of.

Speaker 17 (22:57):
The retaliation against him is particularly chowing pressure that was
exerted on him to stay silent. They have a program
called Speak Up. Well, he was told to shut up.

Speaker 16 (23:08):
So some striking differences of opinion.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yes, indeed, we'll talk to an aviation expert aupter seven
o'clock this morning. So what's the deal is about half
a million of them, they've been in America for teen years.
You're married to an American. So that's the amnesty is
at the plan?

Speaker 16 (23:21):
That's basically it. Of course, immigration, border security, those concerns
are very contentious issues, as if you've noted. Leading into
the elections here in November, former President Trump has been
raising the rhetorics saying many would be immigrants of fleeing
from prisons and mental institutions, summer criminals and animals quote unquote,
who would poison the blood in the country, and that
he would summon the National Guard to begin mass deportation.

(23:43):
So President Biden I was responding with the most extensive
move in more than a decade to protect some immigrants.
He's put together this new executive order that would shield
from deportation those half a million or so illegal immigrants
who are married to American citizens. The hope of the
Biden team is that this will take a middle line
between progressives and those who favor are a tougher approach, and

(24:03):
those who think that Biden was bending to hardliners when
he announced recently that they would be a cutoff and
border processing when the number of illegal daily border crossings
reached twenty five hundred, as it has now. Until this point,
undocumented spouses had to go back to their countries of
origin before they could apply for permanent residency here or citizenship.
That is oppressive, says Democrat Raja Krishna Mooti.

Speaker 18 (24:26):
When these spouses have to leave the country, sometimes they're
gone for as many as three or four years before
they can come back to continue with the process. So
the families are separating.

Speaker 16 (24:38):
Under these new Biden rules, those families could remain intact
while they pursue legal status. To be eligible, as you say,
they must have lived here for ten years and to
have been married to a US citizen as of yesterday,
So no quickie weddings today. Republicans are slamming the Biden effort.
They also withdrew, of course, from the bipartisan border reform
plan recently under pressure from Trump, who wanted to keep

(24:58):
the border battles and elect issue politically. The Biden team
hopes YS will boost their November chances.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, good one mate, catch up in a couple of days, Richard, arlstates,
and just to update you on AI and how it's
going to save us. All the McDonald's in America this
morning have announced that they're removing AI powered ordering technology.
They've been running a little experiment in there some of
the US restaurants, about one hundred of their restaurants our
trial system developed in twenty nineteen by IBM. A number

(25:24):
of viral videos floating about the place, misinterpreted orders, bacon
topped ice cream, hundreds of dollars worth of chicken nuggets
flying left, right and center. After a quote unquote thoughtful review,
McDonald's has decided to end our current global partnership with
IBM on automated order taking, it remained confident that tech
would still be part of its restaurant's future. On TikTok,

(25:45):
young woman becomes increasingly exasperated as she attempts to convince
the AI that she wants a caramel ice cream, only
for it to add multiple stacks of butter to order.
Another of video three hundred and sixty thousand views, person
claims that are ordered got confused with one being made
by somebody else, resulting in nine orders of tea being
added to a bill. Another video a couple of people
laughing while hundreds of dollars worth of chicken nuggets are

(26:06):
added to their order. The New York Post report another
person had bacon added to their ice cream and era
so that AI soon do we get that the better?
Nine minutes away from seven, The.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Make hosting Racist with Bailey's Real Estate.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
News dogs, Mike, don't wait to see you over in
America to cover the upcoming election. It'll be fascinating then
to have your commentary with a yeah, Well then it's
going to be the major talking point all over the
world is and it'll be good to be part of
it again. Putin is if not in certainly heading to
North Korea, and there are videos about the place in
Pyongyang decorated with Russian flags and images of Putin in

(26:43):
anticipation of his rival. One analyst, this goes back to
New Zealanders and our beliefs that North Korea is the
greatest threat to US, and I was arguing yesterday it's
not true. One analyst describes the relationship. It poses quote
a threat like no other for the West. Is that
over rigging it a threat like no Russia and North Korea.

(27:05):
One can't feed their people, One has got an economy
that's imploding, a threat like no other. And people getting
slightly carried away, aren't they five minutes away from seven?

Speaker 4 (27:19):
All the ins and the outs.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
It's the fizz on the Mike Husking breakfast on News
Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
From our Everyone's Unhappy File news last week on the
rich leaving New Zealand. Of course that's according to economists
and real estate agents. But have a look about the place.
Turns out the UK no different. Got the Henley Private
Wealth migration report this morning. Record number of millionaires are
expected to leave the UK after the election, Especially after
the election last year, forty two hundred high networth individuals
left the UK. High networth means you got a million
pounds liquid. Then in itself that was itself a record

(27:50):
forty two hundred. Right this year they're expecting nine and
a half thousand, just double like that. People are over it.
So growing trend of the UK, which between the sixties
and early two thousands that was a prime location for
the super rich. Everyone loved London. Flock to London. But
they've been leaving in droves in the last decade. Between
seventeen and twenty twenty three, UK lost sixteen and a
half thousand millionaires. Henley says the election, having Labor likely

(28:13):
to win, the number would probably surpass ten thousand, even
with Labour saying they're pro business because no one believes
that of course. So where are the UK leavers going?
And this is my overarching theme. You know, we're not happy,
so we go to Australia, the Australians. I'll report on
this later on. There's a big survey out in Australia.
No one's happy in Australia. They want to get out
of here as well. So where are people going? Do
you know where They're going? Going to Germany for their

(28:35):
sense of humor, I'm joking. Germany is one location. A
lot of people going there that have got money. The
rest the US, the great United States of America. Say
whatever you want about America, but you can live the
dream in America, and the belief are still alive. And well,
so there we go. Anyway, I will work you through
that Australian survey because there was a new Zealand server
that came out about wages and expectations and looking for

(28:58):
jobs and being unhappy. And ironically another one came out
in Australia yesterday as well, and basically they' say exactly
the same thing. We're unhappy here and they're unhappy there.
But i'll work you through that later. And I've got
the best story probably ever from the Green Party for you.
No it's not Darlene Tana. Oh heaven forbid, that thing
should be resolved. No such luck anyway. District Court idea,

(29:21):
let's get some cases filed through, Let's get this thing movie.
Let's see just as seen to be done, but in
a more efficient way. How realistic are these new targets?
The Chief District Court Judge is going to be with
us after the news, which is next on the my Costing.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Breakfast, the newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
To, like my Costing Breakfast with.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
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on News Talk sed B Well.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Thing seven past seven. So we have the introduction of
a time frame goal to try and speed up district
court cases. Eighty one percent of district court cases are
determined within the timeframes now, but the aim is to
reach tinety percent. The Chief District Court Judge Hemi Talman,
who is with it's very good morning to you, Kyoda,
make good to go from eighty one to ninety, how
dramatically or drastically do things need to change?

Speaker 19 (30:14):
I think it's going to require coordinated action across the
justice sector to achieve this, and that's really part of
the idea behind setting a benchmark or a standard of
ninety percent to focus the coordinated efforts in that direction.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
The eighty one to ninety gap is that all the
same stuff going wrong. In other words, the paperwork isn't there,
or the file is lost, or there aren't enough people
or something.

Speaker 19 (30:43):
I think that's going to be really the challenge that
we have in front of us make for all of
the various parts of the justice sector to look at
their own organizations to try and identify the areas where
there are room for improvement, to essentially lift performance both

(31:03):
individually and collectively, to assist the court to get to
this benchmark of ninety percent.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Is there a will?

Speaker 19 (31:12):
I think there's a definite commitment across the whole sector.
And the reason I say that is because when you
put aside all of the numbers that are involved, you're
actually talking about people waiting for their cases to be
heard and experiencing the delay brings with it that idea
for many people at least putting lives on hold. And

(31:35):
so there is great commitment across the sector to try
and reduce those delays.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Is it resource required?

Speaker 19 (31:43):
What we will be doing is looking to make the
best use of the resources that we do have at
the moment make and I think that there's been a
lot of work that has been happening at the moment
to try and maximize the use of what we have
at the moment.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
If you can do it any way, is the district
court the place to do it as opposed to high
and appeal et cetera or not?

Speaker 19 (32:05):
I think the district court is most definitely the place
where we need to do this. It's also important to
bear in mind that because of the separation of powers
and judicial independence, this standard can really only be set by.

Speaker 12 (32:19):
The head of the court.

Speaker 19 (32:21):
The chief district Court judge really is the only one
who has the constitutional power to do this, and so
it's a step that's been taken and there is a
great deal of support behind it across the sector.

Speaker 14 (32:33):
To do so.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Okay, are you cognizant of the idea? First? In category one?
This is for people who aren't going to jail. You
want to get them done within six months? Are those
the ones you could shuffle through really quickly to bolster
the numbers on the more problematic cases and would that
worry people?

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Well?

Speaker 19 (32:48):
Category one is fine only that's the category where there's
the six month time frame. It's pretty important that the
idea of timely justice goes together, so it's important to
reduce delay. It's also very important to ensure that fair
trial rights are still observed and protected and that justice

(33:11):
is still administered. So there's a balance involved in all
of this.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Got my diary in front of me, tell me when
I invite you back on to tell me it's working.

Speaker 19 (33:21):
Well, that's something we can speak about offline, Mike, because
we have definitely set an expectation across the sector that
we're looking towards June twenty twenty seven. This is not
going to be easy. There are going to be challenges
ahead of us, and we will do our best to
throw everything at it that we've got at the moment
to try and reduce these delays.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I like your positivity go well appreciated very much. We'll
stay in touch. Judge Hemi Tamanu, who is the Chief
District's Court Judge eleven minutes past seven changes coming to
the Public Works Act, the idea being to make it
easier to build stuff. There is a review on how
critical projects like you know, schools, roads, water services can
be built at pace. Minister for Land Information Chris Pink
is with us on this Chris Morning.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Where does the Public Works Act fit into this jigsaw
you seem to be working through at the moment around
broadly rules about getting stuff done faster.

Speaker 20 (34:10):
Yeah, well, look that's a really good summary. Actually, so
we're talking about unjustifiable red tape that slows down projects
and infrastructure and housing and all those things. Aren't necessarily
so the bigger plan of rebuilding economies, of course getting
some of these infrastructure projects going, and of course the
Public Works Act is really important part of that because
that says when all the consent things that takes place,

(34:34):
and then you need the land occasionally, you know, property
is required to complete the road or the school or
the flood protection or whatever it may be. Then there's
a big delay oftentimes while that's haggled on an individual
basis of landowners. And you know, we respect the right
of people obviously to get fair compensation, but there's a
lot of process and delay that we think we're going

(34:54):
to be able to avoid if we have a close
look at it.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Is that obvious process and delay you can avoid or
is it just you turning up with a bulldozer and saying, mate,
we'll have your house, thanks for coming.

Speaker 20 (35:04):
No, I don't think it's about bulldozers, because at the moment,
it's already the case that people have their land taken
off them in compulsory fashion. And what we wanted to
actually is get to that process a bit more quickly. Ideally,
you know, for people who are willing buyers willing sellers
at a fair market based kind of compensation. So it's
already happening that this takes place. It just happens so long.

(35:25):
But actually it's not on the interest of the landowner
to be mapped around for years either. And if you
think about the other landowners who might come to an
arrangement with the Crown and they're now sitting around for
a long period of time, people are to high that
road at school, et cetera. So actually everyone wins if
we can reduce some of the unnecessary process in there.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
At the moment, I wish you well, they're on the move.
You can't say they're not trying stuff, can you. Chrispink,
Minister for Land Information. It is thirty minutes past seven,
ask how about the Greens A I mean how many
sort of merriment of course beyond anybody's control, and of
great sadness, And we wish you nothing the best the
rest of it, complete self inflicted cluster. So this morning

(36:05):
they've admitted the Greens that they went along to a
local shop Stacks Stacks Furniture, Wellington where Duncan runs. Stacks
recently moved further north along Adelaide Road. Good old Adelaide
Road used to live on Adelaide Road, partly because of
a new cycle way. The new cycle way took away
the on street parking, so Duncan can't do business like that,

(36:26):
so he moves his whole business down the road. Then
on Friday, we had some staff from the new electorate
office for Julie and Jena and Tamitha Paul asking if
they could are you ready for this, asking if they
could use his car parks for an event they were hosting. Also,

(36:47):
by the way, they asked a manager at the nearby
ripco who refused them quite rightly. So and all of
this was brought about because there were no parks for
the function that the Greens were hosting, because of course
the cycle way was Now how did the cycleway come
along because of the Greens. The Greens said, the cycleways
the way of the future, and so they put the
cycle way in. And because of the cycleway there are
no parks. So the next thing you know, Duncan's on
the phone at Stack's Furniture with the people from Julie,

(37:09):
Anne and Tamitha's office saying can we please to use
your car parks because we've got a function on Genner
and Paul did not return requests for comment, No kidding,
what a surprise. The electorate office was hosting a stake
holder event on a Friday in which close to fifty
people attended, and clearly not all of those people were

(37:29):
on a bike. Fifteen past seven.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
The Mike Costing racist.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
It's classic, Mike. Nobody does hypocrisy like the Greens. You're right, Judith,
and you're asking why are they all on the bus?
Very good question. Why are they all on the bus?
Why didn't they come on the train for goodness sake
in the public transport? Seventeen pass, big day, maybe a
day of reckoning for Boeing as they hit the hill
in Washington to face the law makers who want some
answers around what's well basically a modern day corporate disaster.
Boyd Group International leading aviation research and consultancy Group President

(37:58):
Mike Boyds with us on this morning to you do
what find sir good? Thanks for doing this one. I'lder
if you'll set to go, is I shall say good
morning again? You say something similar and I'll start. We'll
come back to that in just a couple of moments.
Once we got to sort it out, still to come
on the program after seven thirty This morning, Peter done,
Jerry Browne this comes out of scrutiny week. It's most
interesting thing. Jerry Brownlee wants security. And this will come

(38:23):
to a video that is doing the rounds on social
media some guys stealing some beer out of the supermarket.
But anyway, and the guards at the supermarkets can't do anything,
whereas Jerry Browney wants the guards at Parliament to be
able to arrest and detain. A lot of people would
agree with that at the moment. He also wants increased
security for the MPs when they're out in the community.
So we'll have a look at that with Peter Dunn

(38:45):
in the next half hour of the program. Anyway, back
to Mike boyders with this morning.

Speaker 21 (38:49):
And good morning to you, sir.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
And how much of what we're seeing on the Hill
today is about politics and imaging versus what say the
FAA can do and trying to fix Boeing And does
Boeing actually get fixed?

Speaker 21 (39:02):
That's a good question. You're looking at probably ninety five
percent politics and imaging. I mean, in a normal world,
which we don't live in, that manna from Boeing should
be in jail or certainly not working. The fact he's
even there being tolerated is beyond me.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
What's your assessment of Boeing?

Speaker 21 (39:22):
Look, it's our number are in the US, our number
one exporter. It's they have offices all over I mean Montana,
places like that. Jobs are important. The problem with Boeing
is it's been run by people that are more worried
about the stock price than they were about maybe managing
the company. And it's more than just building airplanes. After

(39:43):
the current models they have there, they've got no follow
ons at all, you know, so in five or ten
years airbus will be the only game in global town.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Do you believe the whistle blows?

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (39:55):
I do. I Look, these people give up their lives
for this, I mean literally in some cases. But when
you whistle blow, you know, you might be fifty five
years old, ready to retire, and you're giving up the
time with your family and your grandkids and everything else.
They're heroes. So yet they are finding things and they
have to be looked at, no questions. But there's too
many coming out of the woodwork right now. There are

(40:18):
major problems of Boeing, and that means we need to
take a bulldozer to the front office at Boeing and
clean it out.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
So explain to me how this happens. Yes, you won
you know, you're worried about the shap price in your
bottom line. I get all of that. But the point
where you don't get plane orders anymore and doors fall off,
that sort of destroys your entire argument. How did that
cross over that way?

Speaker 21 (40:40):
Well, well, number one, they weren't. They weren't paying attention
to the marketplace, like I just said, I mean, you know,
I think they sold They got four orders in May
for errowbody airplanes. You know, the real problem is they
don't have a product line that they've invested in. They've
done what Lockheed did, or or a convert did, or
other companies if have done over the years. They just

(41:01):
haven't invested in their product because they want immediate response
return for their shareholders. That's mal seasons and unfortunately I
don't have an answer to it. And right now they're
and very very deep, as we say here at Yogurt.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
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The irony is growing, I think greater by the day.
What to do with China ow the premier has been
in New Zealand of course Australia. At the moment we

(42:17):
rolled out the red carpet, they announced a visa deal
for travelers. They also wanted us to put our differences aside.
Now the differences were more pronounced than Australia. If you're
following us, two are there. When Scott Morrison asked for
an inquiry into the origins of COVID, the Chinese went nuts,
hit the tariff lever and punished Australia for a number
of years on beef and barley and wine. Those tariffs
have only just been unwhound. The reason is because basically

(42:38):
they didn't work. China is a bully and their bullying
got called out. Meantime, in Europe, NATO are openly discussing
tariffs against them for supporting the war in Ukraine. They
have also thrown tariffs at them because they jerrymandered the
international markets and the vs and solar panels. The Chinese
have made so many of them they're basically dumping them.
Australia wisely has reduced their trading reliance on China. It
was once forty percent of everything they did, it's now

(43:01):
twenty five percent. What about us? Can we say the
same no, we cannot. We are trapped. We have become
so embedded we must now pretend a whole bunch of
stuff that is happening doesn't matter. China supports Russia, it
does business with them, It hosts Putin, it buys its oil.
Are we outraged, No, certainly, not publicly. Once upon a
time it was the wigs. Now we've got a whole

(43:21):
damn war, and yet we pretend we can separate all
of these things out China are increasingly in the Pacific,
so Luxe and Peter circle the place with handouts and
handshakes and talk of long established friendships and the belief
that mates beats money. Small clue it doesn't. Europe is
looking to slap sanctions. We are looking to grow business.
Someone isn't on the right side of this husky. Pretty

(43:42):
good piece of reading, I'll recommend to you from Peter
Hartcher out of the Sydney Morning Herald yesterday. Later on,
we'll talk to Steve Price later as well. Of course, Mike,
why don't we have night court like they do in America.
It's not a bad question. I'll put it to Mark
Mitchell when he joins us after eight o'clock this morning.
Very interested in Mark Mitchell's because he met Zelenski the
other day was Switzerland. Very quick to trip to Switzerland.
Back Mike, next time you're in Wellington. Look at the

(44:03):
mess the Greens have made an island bay and the
cycle lanes but no parks, Nado. I don't need to
look at Upsna've been there the island Bay. And this
is the problem with theory versus reality. I think increasingly
we're getting a pushback on this. The big big scrap
in Sydney on King's Cross not King's Cross are but
what's it called Oxford Street And there's a big cycle
away on Oxford Street and they're taking it to the
Human Rights Commission because they're arguing that you can't get

(44:26):
access for elderly people from the footpath to the road
without clambering over the cycle lane. And it's entirely possible
they'll win that one. Very interesting developments from Jerry Brownley yesterday.
How come a supermarket guard can't do anything about a
person nicking beer and meat and yet Jerry Browny wants
a security guard in Parliament to be able to arrest

(44:48):
and detain somebody. What good for the goose is good
for the gander or not more for you.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Shortly the Breakfast show You Can Trust, the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
With the to Live the Age You Feel.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
News talks in be as we are referred to with
Richard Donald Lilly on the program an Amnasty of sorts
for five hundred thousand. I think people who have been
in America illegally but married to American citizens. This is
both spouses and children. He's bidden with the details.

Speaker 22 (45:16):
Landing jobs and high demand, high skill professions, and then
we need to have to grow up to share our economy.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
Grow It's the right thing today.

Speaker 22 (45:24):
The second action I'm announcing today is about keeping families together.
My dad used to have an expression, you see, Joey
family is about the beginning, middle, and the end. About
keeping couples together who are married where one spouse's a
US citizen the others undocumented. They've been living in the
United States for at least ten years. These couples have
been raising families, sending their kids to church and school,

(45:47):
paying taxes contributed our country for every for ten years
or more. Matter of fact, the average time they've spent
here is twenty three years. People were affected today, but
living in the United States all his time. There's fear
and uncertainty. We can fix that and that's what I'm
going to do today.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Why it's an issue. So what you're going to do
is get into America illegally, hang out long enough and
find somebody who'll guard. Nowhere about it? Is that how
works politics? Wednesday after right by the way, Mark Mitchell,
Ginny Anderson, of course, being a Wednesday meantime of twenty
two minutes away from a more interesting developments out of
our first scrutiny week to speak of. Jerry brownly wants
to do security for politicians when they're out in the community.

(46:27):
Is also considering giving parliament security guards the power to
arrest and detain. Ninety eight percent of MPs have reported
experiencing some sort of harassment. Now, political commentator Peter Duns
with us on this. Peter, very good morning to you,
coom banding Mike. So let's separate them out. First of all,
the community. Is he right? Does he have a point?
And if he does, how would you go about it?

Speaker 23 (46:46):
I think he is right, And there's been a long
standing issue and we've seen incidences overseas, that Joe Cox
case in the United Kingdom, where an he was murdered
outside her electoral office. I think there was an increasing
risk to security because most of the time out in
the community, MPs are by themselves, don't have security with them.
They're often just there on their own and they are

(47:06):
at great risk. So I think you've got to draw
a line between protecting their privacy but also protecting the
public's right to have access to them. So I think
he's right on that score. I'm a little bit more
wary about round Parliament though. I don't like the idea
of security staff being given the power to arrest there.
I mean, that's traditionally the role of the police. I
do think there can be some upgrading of security, but
I think again you've got to get that balance between

(47:27):
public access and the protection of the individual and the institution.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
We would be one of the most free wheeling parliaments
in the world in terms of security, wouldn't we.

Speaker 23 (47:36):
I think we are in mean sex that's a good thing.
We don't want to compromise that. On the other hand,
we've got to recognize that we're in an environment where
sometimes those things can be a bit of a luxury.
We were all shocked a couple of years ago when
Parliament grounds were occupied for two weeks for instance. So
it shows you how vulnerable we are. But again it's
just where you draw the line and how you achieve
the right balance. I think the thing we've got to

(47:58):
avoid is any one of our politics being subject to
unreasonable harassment, even something more serious than that. And as
I say, take for Joe Cox example, potentially subject to
being killed.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
That's a real logistical exercise, though, isn't it, Because you've
got a lot of MPs and that would be a
lot of resource in a lot of the times. You know,
when do you draw the line, When do you get protected,
When don't you get protected? And for how long? And
how does that cost and what about resources and all
of that.

Speaker 23 (48:22):
I think yes, and it cuts two ways. I mean,
where I think MPs are most at risk are in
their electorates on the weekend when they're out and their
offices seeing constituents are often by themselves. So I think
on the one hand, there needs to be a better
security for those officers. On the other hand, I think
there needs to be better if you like information to
MPs about how they keep themselves out of situations where
they're going to be an undue risk. I just reflect

(48:44):
on one occasion when I was an MP, being in
my electorate office one Saturday and having a guy coming
and wielding a knife, not at me, but just at
the world at general, and there was two of us
in the room, thinking afterwards that was a very silly
situation I should have avoided. So there's that sort of
education you've got to give people to protect them themselves,
but at the same time not placed them in undue risk.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Does Jerry Brownly have the power to give guards the
right to arrest or not? Do you know?

Speaker 23 (49:09):
I don't think he does. I think that's all interested
a power that would have to come from Parliament, and
I think that would require considerable thought and change. As
I say, traditionally the part of arrest in his Zeland
resides with the police.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, exactly, because I immediately thought that what he's doing
is trying to protect the MP's and if he got
them that power, then I'm watching a video there's one
doing runs on social media. Couple of guys just walking
out with veer and meet from the supermarket, and the
guards at the supermarkets can't touch these people these days,
so you'd be protecting MP's with a power that a
guard of the supermarket wouldn't have, and that would strike
many New Zealand design suspector is unfair.

Speaker 23 (49:43):
I think that's right, and I think that's where this
has got to be fought through much more carefully. I
think Jerry Brown is right to raise the concern, but
the practical implications of how you resolve it, I think
need to be fought through more caffee so you don't
get an unbalanced situation where as you say, you know
the shopkeeper has got no protection, but the MP has
got all the protect exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Good to see you mat appreciate it as always, Peter done,
political commentator. It is eighteen minutes away from a Pascal.

Speaker 13 (50:05):
I just fine.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
You needs to listen to Biden with the five oh ones.
That's actually not a bad point. Having just derided Biden,
it's not a bad point, mind you, having said that
the difference between America they're there illegally, the five Oho
ones are not there illegally. There's a big difference. The
reading that I wanted to recommend to you Peter Hartcher,
who's brilliant political and international editor at the Sydney Morning Herald,

(50:26):
Beijing is not on our side. Let's not fall for
a pair of therapy panders. I mean, what apart from anything,
what a brilliant headline. If only more headline writers were
like that, Beijing is not on our side. Let's not
fall for a pair of therapy pandas. If you want
to get into that, go for gold. Right This business
of jobs and our general unhappiness and what we want
from the world, and how we don't differ from Australia

(50:48):
at all more shortly seventeen to two.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
The make Costing Breakfast right.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Jobs fourteen away from a Robert Half Salary guide. Third
of about five hundred workers surveyed we're looking for a
new job. A third looking new job. Only forty three
percent of people are committed to sticking with the current position.
There is a restlessness in New Zealand. It affects all
generations Gen Z, Millennials, baby boomers, Gen exis. Financial compensation
remains a key motivator. Twenty two percent of workers who

(51:15):
thought their pay was uncompetitive. Eighteen percent needed to be
a paying job to meet living expenses. New Zealand employers
are being more conservative at the moment, blah blah blah.
Fifty seven percent likely to look for a new job
this year, ten percent having done so far this year,
six percent in the first half of this year. Thirty
seven percent planning to make a move before the end
of the year. So over half of us are looking
for a new job. Right, So that's New Zealand. Why

(51:36):
because we're all miserable, because we've got a cost of
living crisis, because we've been handed a basket case in economy,
all of that, and yet in Australia, the place so
many of us are leaving for and over this is Australia. Yesterday,
an overwhelming majority of employees will be on the hunt
for a new job in the next twelve months. Hello,
is this the same survey? No, it's not, completely different
survey fifteen thousand professionals, twenty six industries. Hey, salary guide,

(51:59):
cost of BLAE being number one reason costably But way,
we've left New Zealand for Australia. It's all green over there.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Seventy seven percent of employees planning to hunt for a
new job. Seventy seven percent of people are unhappy in
their job in Australia. Sixty one percent are looking for
a pay rise of more than three percent. Eighty six
percent of employers planned to provide one. Forty percent of
employees are dissatisfied with their salary. Seventy three percent don't
believe their salary reflects them performance. But everyone gets paid

(52:27):
so much more in Australia. Everywords, I'm an urs. I
went to Queensland. I got paid nine times what I
used to get paid. Oh apparently not. Apparently, it's not
the case. The past two years have been heavily skewed
in the candidate's favor. All of that's changed changed here,
it's changed in Australia. I gave you earlier on the statistics.
In Britain there are millionaires leaving that country by the
tens of thousand, and the whole thing's turned around. Everyone's

(52:50):
miserable in Britain as well. And the only it seems,
the only two places in the world where they're all
going is Germany for reasons I can't quite fathom, because
they're run by socialists in the places going backwards as shambles,
and they've got the AfD there, who are a bunch
of extremists who's both went through the roof as all
the kids suddenly stopped voting for the Greens and voted
for the nutters. So I don't know why you're having

(53:11):
a good time there. And of course America and America
seems to be the land of the Free and the
home of the brave and never the twain shall meet.
But that seems to be the go to place for
most people. But you can't get him because they're not
handing out visas, so you need to cross the border illegally,
hide out for a long time, hope that Joe's hanging around,
and then he'll let you stay. I think that's how
it works. So that's how messed up the world is

(53:31):
right now. So maybe, just maybe, although things aren't great,
they're not a lot better elsewhere, and maybe there's a
lesson there for us. Eleven away from it on.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
My costeel breakers with alf der New's talk said, be Mike.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Those of us who travel regular ly and or have
family that live overseas know you write Mike. Many New
Zealanders have a myopic view of life. There's an element
of that about the place. Of course, eight minutes away
from eight our good news for Rugby Superfinals to sell
out took a couple of hours and forty four thousand
people are going to watch the Blue Space the Chief,
so that's exciting. Blue CEO Andrew Hall with is Andrew
Morning to you.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Good morning Mike. How are you today?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Very well? Indeed, talk me through what I saw last
week in the semi final with next to no one
there and the sellout. What's happened there? How do we
explain this?

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Yeah, look, there's a couple of things.

Speaker 24 (54:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (54:16):
One look, overall, we've absolutely delighted with the comp like
TV broadcast has gone up again. There was seven hundred
and fifty thousand watched Blues versus Crusaders for example, and
record number actually for the Crusaders Verst Maana, which was interesting.
So overall, along with the digital reach and we're really
happy with the over twenty thousand we've had in the

(54:37):
other games we've had at Eden Park this year. So
last week I think we've said the competition organizers and
what we've delighted about is having a new commission because
we think we'll finally be listened to, is that Auckland
and Sydney is not a great environment on a Friday
evening when there's a weather bomb, and quarterfinals don't or
semi finals. We've still got work to do on I

(54:58):
was the opposition that said, we're delighted with the week
before in the quarter final against the Driller, which really
brought an atmosphere which was outstanding. So we're not a
finished product. We've got to keep working really hard to
get this commission up and running and really driving things forward.
Because they've shown that they're already prepared to listen already

(55:20):
some afternoon games, so that's good.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Good. So yeah, but the problem with the afternoon games
is we love it as a spectator, but of course
television not so good. I mean, you can't do you
get eyeballs at night, don't you. That's what it boils
down to.

Speaker 25 (55:31):
Yeah, it does, And it's getting that balance. It's a
bit like the high performance fandom piece, like we went
a little bit too much. Everything was about high performance
were Actually it's about the sand and getting them down
and the boys love playing in front of people. So
it's that whole balance. Mike, Hey, you know it's and
isn't it nice to have balance of not having.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
The Crusaders in the farm line?

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yes, Didy on Andrew study the collection. How does the
money work by hosting the final if not a semi final?

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Do you gain by that?

Speaker 10 (56:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:02):
We do, Yeah, we do.

Speaker 25 (56:03):
In our competition, it's always been the way. There is
a payment to the other team as well, but that's
the way. So and so when you don't have that,
this is a problem with the comp at the moment.
Unlike mr L with there's a really strong base payment
which gives commercial stability. We sort of live for finals

(56:25):
and if you don't make finals then you're in a
you're in a really tough spiral, right, So there's got
to be something.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
We've got to look at in that whole model. We
agree with that.

Speaker 25 (56:36):
However, when it comes around, you're almost saving for the
days that it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, okay. As far as the ticket sales are concerned,
I don't know if you is it all the Chiefs
coming north or does Auckland support Auckland.

Speaker 25 (56:49):
No, we found that this has been Britain and I
think it shows too that Auckland is big enough now
to you know, to be successful in both league and
rugby union.

Speaker 14 (56:58):
I don't think.

Speaker 25 (56:59):
I don't think it's one versus other, of course, not
our majority of our tickets were sold to a membership
base before.

Speaker 14 (57:07):
Even on public.

Speaker 25 (57:08):
Well, not a majority, but a large percent, which which
are Auckland people, which is outstanding. There's no doubt though, mate.
You can't get away from it. They're coming up the
motorway and that actually makes it.

Speaker 14 (57:18):
More exciting, which is brilliant.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
We'll have a really good atmosphere, good stuff. Good on
you mate, go well, appreciate it very much. Andrew Haw
who's the the blue ceo the Big Final this weekend.
Of course it's five minutes away from eight Mike. I
was at the Auckland domestic pickup this week and noted
David Seymore being dropped off and walked along to the terminal.
It just doesn't feel right given the lunatics around. See, Jonathan,
you make a very good point, and I think this
is where Jerry Brown is coming from. Where one of

(57:41):
these countries whereby we're just so lars a fair and
I don't want to see this like America. Having been
having been lucky enough to go to the White House,
for example, I can assure you that the ability to
get into the White House is little short of a
military miracle. And the first thing you meet is a dog,
and you don't see the dog. The dog's in a

(58:02):
cage by your ankle, and you don't even realize the
dog is there until you go, what's that cage down
by my ankle? And you look through the cage and
there's a dog that would eat you as soon as
I look at you. And then you go past the
dog that would eat you to the bloke with so
much firepower he would literally shred your body to a
thousand pieces. And that's before you go to the screening,

(58:25):
the endless screening, the bomb squad, the dissemblage of anything
that you're carrying, the wanding, and by the time you've
gone through all of that, yes, you get to enter
the White House. Here in New Zealand, it's a completely
different story. And my great fear, and we saw it
on the Lorn As Peter said, my great fear is
in this angsty old age of ours, it only takes
one idiot to do something horrific and then all of

(58:47):
a sudden we go but but but we were looking
at that and we never quite got around to it.
And that's New Zealand down to a tea. We're not preemptive,
we're reactive. And that is a fault. Jenny Anderson, Mark
Mitchell Politics Wednesday, After the News, which is next here
of news Talk said be.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
The big news, bold opinions, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar,
the art of performance.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
News Talk said, be.

Speaker 26 (59:12):
Ten feet time, bulletproof, throwing me about the camera, boots.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
A whistle and a doll, start a running, a whispering,
Mama starts blush, reaching.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
His hand, and a pair in here.

Speaker 25 (59:26):
I couldn't make a many.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Any tough ma sonist chest to starting the fee. Regarding
who it is, it's Luke Comesy's back, which is interesting
because Getting Old was the last album, only came out
last year, and from memory having got it, there were
a myriad of tracks on there as part of the
sort of seemingly ongoing move and music generally just to
produce albums with so many tracks that you don't know

(59:49):
what to do with them all. This one, Fathers and
Sons has only got twelve. And he put out a
piece the other day suggesting, maybe even apologizing to some
of the people who love Luke Comesy. He's not writing
some about drinking beer anymore and going out and having
a good time because he's a father and now he's
got kids, and he wants to write more about, you know,
what's happening in his life. So twelve tracks. It's all good.
Everything look comes does is good. And he's come up

(01:00:10):
with forty minutes and ten seconds worth of Year. It
is eight minutes past eight Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell and
Ginny Anderson with us. Hold on, let me let me
do this. Hold on, hold on, hold on, I've got
this I've.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
Cocked this up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
I've cocked this up.

Speaker 12 (01:00:23):
Oh what's hold on?

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
The whole phone system's changed. Now, got you now, Ginny?

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
How are you?

Speaker 27 (01:00:28):
Good morning? Unker?

Speaker 25 (01:00:29):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Bloody hell. Eventually, if I stick with this job, I reckon,
I might get quite good at it. We'll see how
we go. So first of all, Mark, take me through Switzerland.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
How did you get there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
How'd you get back? And how long were you on
the ground as we flew?

Speaker 24 (01:00:44):
Ever, it's up to do bye and then flight up
to Zurich. It's quite a long trip, but we're on
the ground. We were supporting with the Year on the
ground for about four gate hours and then and then
took the save trip back. But listen, extremely important to
be happy without a doubt big turning out every region
and there are the fifty five leaders or prime ministers there,

(01:01:04):
and of course you know the ability to let President
Selenski know that US as a country that we are
there in solidarity and we'll continue to support him in
the war against Russia.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Taking nothing away from that sentiment. Apart from that, nothing happened,
did it?

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
And that's the cold hard reality of what you're facing
at the moment in terms of the war. He's losing,
and China wasn't there, and Russia's not there, and Biden
wasn't there. So you'll gathered in a nice spot and
said we love you and you'll came back home again.

Speaker 24 (01:01:33):
For him, it's for him and the people of Ukraine
is really important. They are worried that people will forget
about war. And when you have over one hundred countries
to up and you've got you had the Prime mins
of Great britainyar, you had the President of francee, you
had the Prime Minister of Canada there, the Chancellor of Germany.
You it'sd a very very powerful missis that this war

(01:01:53):
is not forgotten. And the international community continued to stand.
So how he with Ukraine and they will not tolerate
the aggression from PO and Russia. So no, it was
very important. On a very personal level. I got to
spend some time with him on the I who deleted
his dinner only he'd received a message from his daughter.
It was Father's Day in Ukraine and we were talking

(01:02:16):
about our kids, and he says, look, you know, getting
the message from my daughter means everything. But at the
end of the day, I remember that we have got
twenty thousand Ukrainian children that have been taken by Russia
and taken away from their families, and there is there
are children in my country that cannot send your father
a happy Father's Day tept because they've been killed by

(01:02:36):
invading Russian forrses.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
So does he have a vibe about him?

Speaker 24 (01:02:41):
Those there an expect he absolutely is next factor about him.
He's one of those guys that he's physically quite a
small guy, but when he walks in the room, he
has a presence. And I've got enormous respect and admiration
for admiration for him for the energy that he has
and what he's doing in terms of leading his country
through what's an extremely difficult conflict with a huge human

(01:03:04):
cost for him and his people and the energy that
he brings to make sure that this remains in the
forefront of people's minds. And one of the leakers were
saying that one of the things that really struck them
was they actually met with the Ukrainian soldier had lost
both of his legs and he said to that person,
you know, if you don't stop this, if Ukraine loss,

(01:03:27):
then Putin's not Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I think most people understand that, Jinny. For you, completely
different subjects scrutiny week. From your point of view, are
you loving it, is anything coming out of it? Or
are we wasting our time here?

Speaker 27 (01:03:40):
It's good we get a longer period of time.

Speaker 21 (01:03:42):
Mark.

Speaker 27 (01:03:42):
We had Marcus corrections minister for nineteen minutes yesterday. So
what it's designed to do is take out those that
are quick political hits of what the headline was over
the last out of forty eight hours. But you actually
get into the detail of what's in the budget and
what's funded and what's not funded, so you can look
you know, please, for example, might not want to give
too much away. Is Mark's going to be there on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
That's a good questions.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
You can look at.

Speaker 27 (01:04:07):
Starting for crime preventions overall gone down, So you get
to look at that level and to interrogate that what's
what's the point of doing some big ticket items.

Speaker 24 (01:04:15):
If that's not that's not correct.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
So that's where you go.

Speaker 20 (01:04:21):
You're hearing it in the budget.

Speaker 27 (01:04:23):
We get nineteen minutes to talk about it. Marks of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Looking forward to looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Have you got some national please on board there mark
to ask you some soft patsy questions.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Yes, they do that.

Speaker 24 (01:04:35):
No, my lot that we like Jim said, we had
the corction here today. My view of it was normally
in the last become the labor ministers were coming to
talk for twenty minutes. I said, I'm not doing that.
This is the opposition's time. I made a short opening
address and then I gave us many questions. In fact,
I stayed one of the members of another question would

(01:04:55):
come to the end of the time, and I said, no,
no letter asked the questions. So there's opposition's chance to
scrup to ask the minister's questions, and it's important part
of our democracy.

Speaker 14 (01:05:05):
So I respect that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
I knowe you're back today three point fifteen Emergency Management
Ministry expecting a grilling there or you've done pretty well
on that department, haven't you.

Speaker 24 (01:05:14):
Yeah, we have done well, and you know there's a
lot of very good work going on. So no, it's good.
I mean it's also a chance to tell to give
a download in a report on what we are doing
in what we are achievement.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
All right, Brie break more in a moment, Jinny Anderson,
Marc Mitchell. It is thirteen past eight.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
The Mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
It talks sixteen past dight Jinny Anderson Marc Mitchell, Politics Wednesday,
Jinny Jerry Browne speaking of scrutiny week. He wants security
guards to be able to arrest and detain people on
the precinct good idea or not, and he wants better
protection for MPs in the community better a good idea
or not.

Speaker 27 (01:05:46):
Look, I think it's important that those discussions are taking place.
They're usually done in a committee where you get agreement
from all parties, but there have been a few instance
as recently of security issues being raised, and I think
it's important that security guards feel like they cannect to
keep people safe if they need to, so always with
the sort of agreement of all parties. But the fact

(01:06:09):
is taking this seriously and taking some steps seems like
a good thing to me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
How would you, as an MP in the community, I
feel about it? In what form would you see it taking?
Is it a copper? Is it a security guard? Is
a reminder when do they start, when do they stop
and what circumstances will they operate.

Speaker 27 (01:06:25):
We already have the ability through Parliamentary Security to carry
a jurist alarm with us if we feel that we're
at risk, and you can activate that and when you do,
police come. So we already have that ability. The fact
that they want to monitor it more are always cautious
of how much that's going to cost in terms of
taxpayer spend. But if there are some people at risk

(01:06:46):
and they want to be in the community, I think
it's only right and fear that they should be secure when.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
They need to know that. So you hit a button
and that goes to the cop shop and they respond
what as fast as they can as.

Speaker 27 (01:06:57):
Fast as they can. So we'll all our staff and
electric off us as have that as well as an MP.
You can wear like a dongle thing around your neck
that you have a little emergency button and you can
have that and when you hit it activates the juries.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Do you what do you stand on it? Mart guards
and detaining people on the precinct and security in your electric.

Speaker 24 (01:07:16):
Look, my staff had to use the Jerius alarm about
two weeks ago, and I take the safety of all
of our staff, whether it be benease people or my people.
They we must always put their safety at the forefront.
They do deal with difficult people at times, and so
you know, I think that there is no cap on

(01:07:37):
the investment that we have to make to keep them safe.
I think that you know, Jerry is definitely looking at
something that needs to be looked at. We have lived
at a couple of instance, like Jenny said in Parliament
recently that highlighted the fact we've got our ending security
personnel in our parliament to do a fantastic job, but
they need some additional powers. And I think that one

(01:07:57):
of the instances that we saw unfolding the public gathering
really showed that that needs to be looked at. So
I support Jerry and taking that position in terms of
MP fifty. Yes, we shouldn't be cavalier about that. I
know that we've I've had a couple of incidents I
know that we've someone that was threatened for me, so
that they these but you're but you're in a public

(01:08:18):
you own, you own a job that you're in the
public eye, and and so you are going to treat
sometimes unwanted attention and sadly sometimes some of these people
have got mental health issues and need some proper support,
but around them as well. I had an incident, if
you want a couple of examples, I had an incident
in my office where there was someone would stress metal
health issues, made serious threats and saying that I had

(01:08:42):
a firearm.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
They're on their way way.

Speaker 24 (01:08:43):
To the idea office for my office. I happened to
be in the office that person turned up at my office.
I put my staff into the safe room. And I
was lucky because I had a policing career that I
had the ability through communication to kick that person in
my office until a plus arrife. But those are the
lots of instance that can.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Heap the unreal. What sort of car do you drive, Ginny?
Is an MP I've got a photo of your car.
It looks like an aqua. Is it an aqua?

Speaker 27 (01:09:09):
It is a Holden Barrina.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
It is a barna? Is it do you have more
than one of them?

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
I don't have you had it resign righted recently with
your face on the back door? Or is the face
one the new one.

Speaker 27 (01:09:23):
The non face one has been like that for about
a year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Okay, because you're parking on the footpath and I'm just
looking at this.

Speaker 21 (01:09:29):
Do you know what?

Speaker 27 (01:09:30):
That's a funny Christian via? Because the person who packs
in my car pack is.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
That the person in the prius and takes the photo.

Speaker 27 (01:09:40):
So he's a local guy who packs in my car
pack and then takes a photo of my car.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Do you need to activate your dongle?

Speaker 14 (01:09:48):
Probably it was.

Speaker 27 (01:09:49):
Because it's a repeat offender who packs in my car,
waits till I pack to go into my office of
graves and stuff. It's pretty sure, pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Back you go behind him and then he takes a photo.

Speaker 27 (01:10:05):
Yeah, that's exactly what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
What sort of assholes that?

Speaker 27 (01:10:08):
Yeah, thank you, thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
And what do you do about that?

Speaker 19 (01:10:13):
Well?

Speaker 27 (01:10:13):
You smiling to get on with your job. But when
you've got a short period of time to go get
some papers and get your meeting or meet someone and
he's nowhere else, I just usually sit there run in
but I won't be doing it anymore because they clearly
are sitting and waiting to take a photo and you
have fun with it, and that's part of being an
MP you need to deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Yeah, you're the foot father is probably not a good
idea of Jilly Well.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
It is.

Speaker 27 (01:10:40):
Like what that photo doesn't tell is it's an industrial zone.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
It's the street, so that's further up the street.

Speaker 27 (01:10:46):
You've got cars all parking out there because it's not
a typical area that pedestrians used. It's an industrial zone with.

Speaker 20 (01:10:53):
A whole of hopes operating.

Speaker 27 (01:10:55):
But no, look, I shouldn't have done it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
It was silly.

Speaker 27 (01:10:57):
But I do get frustrated that I'm pretty sure that
the person who illegally packed in a private car park
paid for it.

Speaker 20 (01:11:04):
By puntry service.

Speaker 27 (01:11:05):
In my office parks there, the emposy out and snaps
one when I.

Speaker 24 (01:11:11):
Hope the Greens aren't going to take your car park.
That is so true.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Good to see you guys catch up next week. Appreciate
it very much. Gimmy Anderson, Mark Mitchell A twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
One with January.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
I don't know, I feel like going to Australia, but
there's probably idiots like that in Australia as well. Valley
counselor by the way, Kerry Brown kisser Gary Brown says
it's okay because her park was stolen, some somebody else goes.
Somebody else is texting and going, oh, that's not true.
There's parks down the road. They'll be private parks as well.
And stop looking at Twitter. What is it you're doing

(01:11:47):
at eight twenty five in the morning that you're scrolling
through your Twitter feed. I've got the photo too. Come on,
there are big, big issues at play, by the way
in Australia. Fun fact, I learnt yesterday that I didn't
realize a tremendous number of Poms in Australia and the
Tories who are about to get wiped out in the
UK election have hit the panic buttons to expats because
I didn't know this either. They changed the rules. British

(01:12:09):
citizens living overseas were recently granted lifetime voting rights because
the law stopping expats from voting after fifteen years was abolished.
So you can if you're a brick, you're always a
brit and you can vote forever. I think that's not
a bad idea that so the change could add three
and a half million people to the register. It'll be
the biggest increase in the electorate since full female suffrage
came into effect in nineteen twenty eight. So suddenly you

(01:12:31):
found three and a half million Brits to add to
the and the great hopers that many of them would
look at, you know, the Labour Party and go oh dear,
because they're busy courting these overseas voters, the Tories with
parents living back in the UK by attacking Labour's tax plans,
its claiming it's preparing a raid on inheritance tax to
pay for its spending commitments. So you're sitting out there
in Bondi, mom and dad back at Scunthorpe, and you're

(01:12:54):
going on my mom and dad going to get hit.
We're the Tacks. I'll vote to Tories. That's what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
Is that not right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Janis as you said on Bondi Anyway, Australia's home to
the biggest population of British expats. Most recent SeNSS you're
ready two hundred and seventy seven thy nine hundred and
sixty in New South Wales alone, two hundred forty seven,
nine hundred and ten in wa two hundred and thirty
two thoy, nine hundred and twenty in Queensland, two hundred
thirteen thousand, nine hundred and forty in Victoria. That's a

(01:13:20):
million people, a million palms in Australia. And I wonder
how many of those living in Victoria wish they'd gone
to New South Wales or how many in Western Australia
wish they ended up in Queensland vice versa. But nevertheless,
that's a lot of them, so the Tories are targeting them.
Speaking of financial matters, the New South Wales government handed
down their budget yesterday. They're in the red, They're in
the red forever and they're blaming the federal government. So

(01:13:42):
we'll have a look at this among other matters and
this bit of a scrap with the universities as well.
Steve Price is warming himself up as we speak and
will be presenting Australia matters to us after the News,
which is next at News talks'b.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
The answers from the decision makers, the Mike Hosking breakfast
with Bailey's real Estate altogether better across residential, commercial and
rural on News Talks, it'd be it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Seems only fair. We had baden earlier announcing all the
five hundred thousand people who wandered into America. I legally
hung out for a good number of years. Married in
American they can stay. So here is the amnesty meantime?
In Milwaukee, who's this?

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
Oh? And you know I love Milwaukee. I was the
one that picked Milwaukee.

Speaker 26 (01:14:29):
I have to tell you, I was the one that
picked up these lion people that they say, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
He doesn't like Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
I love Milwaukee.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
I said, you got to fix the crime.

Speaker 26 (01:14:39):
We all know that you got to picture of the
election's on us.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
But I'm the one that picked Milwaukee.

Speaker 26 (01:14:44):
And the Democrats or the radical left lunatics as I
call them.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
What they say is just so terrible.

Speaker 21 (01:14:53):
They lie, lie, lie.

Speaker 26 (01:14:54):
They have a horrible candidate. They have a candidate that
has no clue, doesn't know where he is, and all
they can do is lie.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
I'm the one that picked Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
I'm not American. He is, and I bow to his
expertise if that's the word you want to use. But
I'm pretty sure Mawaki is not the way it's pronounced.
And certainly because happy days were set in Milwaukee and
so that's how we learned to say Milwaukee when I
was a kid. But then again, what do I know.
Steve Prices in Australian Morning Mate good So Peter Dutton,

(01:15:29):
Big Pole yesterday a point ahead. Things are looking good.
The nuclear policy is coming.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
He is on a roll.

Speaker 14 (01:15:36):
Well this is a bit of a shock. I mean,
I was doing TV last night. We were talking about
how the nuclear policy probably released before the winter break
for Parliament, so within the next couple of weeks. Well
it's going to be announced in the next couple of hours.
I'm told that there's a joint party room meeting of
all the Liberal and National members of Parliament. It'll be
a virtual meeting because Parliament's not sitting at the moment.

(01:15:58):
In two hours time and Peter Dutton, if the newspaper
leaks are correct, will announce either six or seven sites
for nuclear reactors in Australia, which is point number one.
At least two of those are going to be in Queensland,
one in New South Wales, one in WA one in
South Australia. Now some doubt about whether there'll be one

(01:16:20):
in Victoria. Not only will he announce that, he'll announce
that these nuclear power plants will be run and will
be owned and operated by the federal government, much like
the NBN or snow hydro is. And so he's going
all in on this policy. Now there is still some
within the coalition of were nervous about this, but I

(01:16:40):
think what they've done is they've sat down like and
they've said, Okay, what's going to be the big difference
between us and the other mob and it's going to
be the way that we keep baseload power running in
this country. It's a huge decision. As long as I've
been alive, and that's now nearly seventy years, nuclear has
been a dirty word in Australia, quite similar to to

(01:17:00):
New Zealand. We at one point had bands on nuclearmed
American naval ships coming into the country. But we've got
huge reserves of uranium and so Peter Dutton is going
to try and convince the electric whenever the election will
be that the only way to keep the lights on
is to go the way of big countries like the
United States, France and the UK and have nuclear power.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
I reckon there's a change in the climate mood in
many parts around the world. If you look at the
European election the other day, the young people went away
from the Greens into the right. I'm looking at that
Resolve poll the other day your place, fifty two percent
want to keep the current twenty thirty pledge John Paris.
But fifty two is barely barely a majority, and so
I just wonder if if he's read the mood.

Speaker 14 (01:17:42):
They must have a lot of polling behind it. But
it is a tremendous risk. Nevertheless, I mean, look, I
think it's probably the right way to go without knowing
all the detail, but it is a hell of a
hell of a risk. I mean, you are basically wiping
off and new study these things as well as anybody.
You're wiping off all those former liberal seats in inner
Melbourne and in a Sydney that went to the titles.

(01:18:04):
You're never getting them back if you're going down the
road with this policy. I mean, people like you know,
all of those tierlmps they went to the Electric on
climate change and on net zero, and so you just, ok,
those seats have gone. We're going to have to convince
middle class working class Australians in the outer suburban seats
of Sydney Melbourne in particular, where they've got to win seats,

(01:18:27):
that this is the.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Now, let me give you an insight into New Zealand
versus Australia economically speaking. This is to the Reserve Bank yesterday,
which still hasn't ruled out another hike. You've got to
hold for the sixth time in a row. Part of
what you're experiencing, not that people will thank you for it,
is that you get a little bit of growth, not
huge amounts, but a little bit of growth. We've got
no growth, less than no growth, so we're going backwards.
So we've ruled out a hike, whereas you've at least

(01:18:50):
got enough life there for the Reserve Bank governor to go.
You know what, we might not have inflation under control,
but a bit you that's not the way it's being
read in the old pocketbook.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
No it's not.

Speaker 14 (01:19:01):
I mean my great friend Ross Greener, who does go
on his business editor, he said that New Zealand probably
pulled the right lead. He says, at least you're not
doing what we're doing, which he describes as a death
by a thousand cups. He still of the belief that
we will get one more hike. He said, you took
all the pain at the same time and you're going
to come out on the other side. That's his interpretation.

(01:19:23):
So you went hard, we didn't, and so we're now
in a situation where you had. And I'm not sure
I like this. I mean, the Reserve Bank used to
be this shadowy group of people. You never heard from them.
Now you've got the governor standing up every time she
makes a decision, saying. The board sat around yesterday we
actually talked about she's deserve words that we might hike rates,
not give a cut, or in fact leave them where

(01:19:45):
they are. And I'm not sure people who are really struggling,
as you say, put food on the table, want to
know that stuff. They just think. God, I mean, really,
we're going to go to the rest of this year
with interest rates above four percent. We're not going to
get any relief either in our business loan or a
home loan until sometime next year. I don't think that
does anything for the country's confidence.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
No, exactly, give us a quick listen on this new
South Wales budget. Yesterday in deficit forever they blame federal
government because of the GST car but up fair.

Speaker 14 (01:20:15):
Or not, probably a little bit of fair. I wouldn't
go all in on that, but certainly New South Wales.
But head of population is during the heavy lifting and
other states which have huge mining royalties, you remember Queensland
and WA I speak of, well they've got a prayer
head of population, a greater return from the GST. It's

(01:20:35):
all very complicated economic stuff. But New South Wales budget
yesterday was seen as reasonably responsible when you consider that
the same Reserve Bank governor we were talking of she
blamed inflation in this country, which is pretty sticky on
the fact that a lot of the state governments are
big spenders.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Now Victoria, age of a child in criminal what is it?

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Sixteen?

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
No?

Speaker 14 (01:20:59):
Currently eight? You can be considered a criminal up until
the age of ten. We're in the middle of a
youth crime crisis and so the state government and that's
just so they're going to raise that from ten to
twelve and eventually by twenty twenty seven up to the
age of fourteen, which causes all sorts of problems with
police because you turn up and there's a twelve year

(01:21:19):
old who's stolen a car. And this is happening increasingly
because crime games are employing young teenagers to their dirty work.
The police can't do anything about it. They give you
a tap on the head and say go home.

Speaker 24 (01:21:30):
You're a naughty boy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
All right, mate, you go well, see you next week.
Appreciate it. Steve Price out of Ausra. You see they
got the same problems we have. Interesting, isn't it that
poll is referring to? By the way, on climate, fifty
two percent want to keep the current Paris agreement, Dunton
saying you've got to get out of Paris because it's
not realistic. Fifty two percent barely a majority want to
keep a thirty percent don't back Labour's target at all.
Rest are undecided, So there's a whole new debate going on.

(01:21:54):
The government planned to reduce emissions by forty three percent
by twenty thirty isn't going to happen. So the survey
forty one percent agreed that Australia should act now on
the problem if it involves significant costs. Even if it
involves significant cost forty one so not a majority, down
from fifty one see the shift thirty two percent see
climate change as a gradual process. They believe Australia can

(01:22:14):
take small steps over time, but eighteen percent believe the
policies should have no significant costs until the community assure
that climate change is a real problem. So you got
a real movement there and potentially what's building towards some
sort of backlash. Eight forty five. The Mike costing racist
thirteen away from nine, and Vidia has just surpassed Microsoft
and Apple as the world's most valuable company. You've gone

(01:22:36):
to three point three trillion dollars. It's just amazing the numbers,
isn't it? Morning, Mike. The Panthers will win Game five
on home ice this afternoon, will they? Probably? I've not
seen enough of the hockey, but I saw the Edmonton
or a chunk of the Edmonton game the other day
when they're back home and evaned. It was at eighty
one they killed the Panthers, but the Panthers were up
three Nils, so it's now three to one, best of seven, Mike,
is a percentage of the population. Here's a fun fact.

(01:22:57):
New Zealand has more UK born residents eight point three
sent to the population versus five point five in Australia,
So a million in Australia. I think what they were
saying was there's a million. There were more Brits numerically
in Australia than anywhere else in the world, so that
would be correct. But as a pacer, jeelan, I'll take you.
I'll take you at your would. Trump's still going. He's
still going in Wisconsin today and he's had to go

(01:23:20):
at Baden.

Speaker 26 (01:23:21):
First, he wandered off the G seven in Europe.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
The stage.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
He looked like he didn't know where the hell he was,
but he didn't know where he was.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
He's blaming it now on AI. He's saying he doesn't
know what AI is. But that's okay. At the G
seven in.

Speaker 26 (01:23:39):
Europe and he had to be rescued by other world leaders.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
They had to pull him back.

Speaker 26 (01:23:44):
Then he bizarrely put his face on the Pope's forehead.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
What was that all about?

Speaker 26 (01:23:50):
Then he froze during the celebration on the White House lawn.
Then Barack Hussain Obama had to grab his hand and
lead him off the stage as though he were a child.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
I have to tell you, Obama could.

Speaker 12 (01:24:00):
Have handled that different, you know, differently.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
He could have done it a little bit softer. He
could have done it, like, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Erickons Boden's on something.

Speaker 26 (01:24:13):
Is anybody gonna watch the debate? He's gonna be so
pumped up. He's gonna be pumped up. You know all
that stuff that was missing about a month ago from
the White House.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
What happened? Who left? Is somebody left it there?

Speaker 26 (01:24:31):
I wonder, let's see, somebody left the laptop in an
office of a gentleman who was supposed to fix the
laptop from hell.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
He never picked it up.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
And somebody didn't pick up.

Speaker 26 (01:24:42):
Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
Worth of cocaine. I wonder who that could have been.

Speaker 21 (01:24:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:24:49):
Actually I think it was Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
I've never heard him laugh. Actually I haven't said all that.
The rules around the debike are interesting. If I've got time,
roll him out for you in a moment mine tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
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rules of as follow CNN is the opening debate. There
are two that have been agreed to. It's under two
weeks away. June twenty seven, Atlanta, September twenty seven, that

(01:26:11):
will be broadcast by the ABC. Two commercial breaks, which
is unusual. Campaign staff may not interact with their candidate
during those ad breaks. No opening statements, a two minute
closing statement, though ninety minutes of debate time will begin
when the first question is answered. Asked a question, each
candidate will have two minutes to respond, which will be
followed by one minute rebuttals and responses to the rebuttals.

(01:26:33):
There will be another minute that can be used at
the discretion of the moderators. A visual reminder of response
timing is there as well. Trump and Biden agreed to
stand at uniform lecterns. The starting or position will be
determined by coin flip. Candidate's microphones will be muted throughout
the program except for when they speak. Jake Tapper and

(01:26:54):
Dana Bash are your moderators. Each candidate will be given
a pen, a notepad, a bottle of water, no props
or written notes, no studio audience. That's how CNN's gonna
play it. In a couple of days five to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Year Round Sundance films, The Big festival. This one got
an eleven minute standing ovation. It's called a real pain.
It's about a couple of cousins with an interesting dynamic
that doesn't even sound exciting. There's a couple of cousins
with an interesting dynamic who traveled through Poland to honor
their grandmother.

Speaker 28 (01:27:33):
We stay moving, we stay late, we stay agile. The
conductor is going to come through taking tickets. We tell
him we're going to.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
The bathroom, bathroom.

Speaker 28 (01:27:39):
He gets to the back of the train and he's
gonna start heading through the front looking for stragglers.

Speaker 12 (01:27:42):
The stragglers.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
Yeah, by the time he gets to.

Speaker 28 (01:27:43):
The front of the train's going to be in the
station and we're home for it is So tickets are
probably like twelve bucks. Principle of things you shouldn't have
to be for train tickets in Poland.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
This is our country. No it's not.

Speaker 12 (01:27:52):
It was our country.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
They kicked us out because they thought were cheap.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
We got no idea how long they spent taking out
all the f's apart from the one they missed. So
what's the address for the station to write to box?
What BSA? If we apologize in advance, do we get
away with it? And say it's just idiots behind the
scenes and there's nothing we could do about it. Can
we say systemic failure? Sam? What's your homephone number? If

(01:28:23):
we get you to ring Sam and Sam, we'll go
I'm sorry anyway. Apologies for that. Jesse Eisenberg. Hey can
we play it again? Just for fun? Jesse Eisenberg, Kieran Coulkin.
They're in there and produced No Less by Emma Stone.
Sounds good, don't it? How about the swear words back

(01:28:43):
tomorrow morning? As always, Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
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