Full Show Podcast: 21 June 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Demanding the answers from the decision makers.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
The mic Hosking.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial
and rural.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
On News Talks, ed.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
B I mean welcome today the power and the falling tower.
The Finance Minister on the booming economy Israel to talking
up in all out war with Lebanon coaches Cottra and
McMillan ahead of tomorrow's big final timiicate you do the
week of course, being Friday, Richard Arnold in the States
for us and get Old Murraldsy fires up from Australia,
ask here we go for Friday morning, seven past six.
Think hard before you jump. That was the Reserve Bank

(00:34):
economist Paul Conway in a speech this week trying to
explain monetary policy and the path inflation and our general
mess of an economy. The comic wasn't part an answer
to a question about whether the approach the Bank has
taken to the economy was the reason why so many
New Zealanders were leaving. Think hard before you jump, The prognosis,
he went on to say, was good for New Zealand.
He is right to the extent it always comes right

(00:55):
if you think about it. I mean, this country, this
planet is in a mess right now, but it hasn't
and it won't always be that way. History is instructive.
The leaving New Zealand debate has been had for decades.
We've been in a hole many times before. Young people
have hated the place dozens of times. Over half of
Australia's filled with the griebd kiwis who bailed first chance
they got. I detect a slight difference this time. A
lot of people ask or say, I don't know if

(01:17):
the government can fix it this time round. That explains
the current polling around confidence. Post election, confidence was up.
We had acted, we at lanced the labor boil, but
then reality came back for a visit. The books were
worse than they thought that we're hidden dramas for school cliffs.
The economy got really ugly. Things started to bite. Whether
this government can turn that is still an open question.
Eight months on from the vote, and it's winter. It's

(01:38):
always worse than winter, and for what it's worth, I
don't have a shadow of it out. The Reserve Bank
has made it worse than it needs to be. But
I was around for Muldoon and he was a calamity
of historic proportions. And it took Douglas and a series
of deeply traumatic decisions to write that ship, but he
did it. And this lot with fortitude, gonads and no
fear can probably repeat the trick. But as we've seen

(01:59):
this week and surveys in Australia, there as unhappy as us.
The millionaires in Britain are bailing and record numbers, lots
of people have lots of agreements as we are not alone.
Doesn't make our applight any less stressful, but we aren't
the only basket case in town.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Scandal and the bbiate. Let's start with the scandal. It's
in the British election campaign. Yet another risk forbidding withinside info.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Deeply regrettable.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
But it appears that there are no two parliamentary candidates
who have bet on the date of the election. That's
unacceptable behavior. People shouldn't be using, if the allegations are correct,
privileged inside information in this way. But I think we're
talking here about two individuals rather than anything more widespread.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Hope, So lib dims all Ibert the idea that you
bet on something that you know the result that is immoral.
It is illegal, and I can't believe people at the
top of the Conservative Party are doing this and have
allowed this to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
This is corruption, Frankly.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
The debate at stateside as, they debate over the debate
in fact, as to where a bid like Trump claimed,
will be drugged.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
Obviously, what did they say, Biden was jazzed up or
whatever for the state jacked.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
Up for the state of Murphy's the chairman of the
Doctor's caucus in the Republican Party, he said he was
jacked up.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
Yeah, so I'm assuming they'll probably try to you know,
redo that.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
We mentioned yesterday that Louis Andrew had passed that LAWA
on the team Commandments being displayed in all the schools.
It has gone down a treat.

Speaker 8 (03:22):
And I don't know which rning I put up. There
has ten different versions at a ten commandments, and our
schools are so undefunded that I'm not sure I have
to kid to even.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Know how to read them.

Speaker 8 (03:31):
One of the dumbest wasted time to ever seen in
my life.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
And even more debate over the Airline Association and their
advice over the use.

Speaker 7 (03:38):
Of would the Airline Pilot's Association International the union. The
guide also urges members to avoid masculine generalizations like cockpit
and instead using flight deck.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Finally, we've got the first scientific experiment that's been conducted
over six months, comparing white collar workers in the office
to the white collar workers at home three days a week.
What they found was no evidence that workers became more
productive working from home, a common claim, of course, because
you're no longer stuck in trafficking. You've got a quieter
working environment, so you're so much more productive. Those who
work from home were also more likely to quit by

(04:12):
a third and go get a different job. They did
find that those working from home were happier, but happiness
doesn't equate to productivity. That as new as the world
in ninety hey cent update, yere baby, Central bank update,
Switzerland's gone. Not only gone, but they're gone again. The
National Bank cut another twenty five basis points. They're down
to one point two five percent. Second cut this year.

(04:32):
Two thirds of economists saw it coming. The inflation's flatlining
at one point four percent. Ah to be in Switzerland
eleven past six.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
One My Costing Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
New Fox poll just out on Trumpee Barton give you
the numbers in a couple of moments. Meantime, Central Bank
Bank of England held as expected inflation in the band
at two percent at the moment, finally balanced. So the
anticipation is next month they're in, not next month August,
they're in. The call this time was fifty to fifty,
so they're staying at five point twenty five. Seven members
voted to hold, two favored to cut. That was the

(05:07):
same as the main meeting. So we watch in wait.
Fourteen past six JMI wife Andrew callahaer.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Good morning, very good bonding mate.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
You got it spot one. Yesterday you called the growth,
you saw the growth and there it was zero point two. Eh.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
There you go.

Speaker 9 (05:21):
Although when you look at some of the numbers, Mike
and the noisiness in the data does seem to be
there's a little bit of, you know, more good luck
than skill, although I suppose experience counts, doesn't it at the.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
End of the day, exactly, No one's more outsights than you, Andrew.
You've been around for one hundred and twenty seven years.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
An awful long time.

Speaker 10 (05:36):
Now.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, so all has been revealed.

Speaker 9 (05:38):
We now know that in the first quarter of twenty
twenty four, the economy grew by zero point two percent.
And let's look on the positive side of the equation.
Make it's above zero, right, And you know my view
on that is that the difference to the average U
Zander of between you know, plus point one or minus
point one. It's basically semantic, But do you reckon it
has an undefinable sort of effect on sentiment?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I think it.

Speaker 9 (06:00):
Yeah, I think it does. I think you take a
positive number, don't you. So, so it's also zero point
two percent higher if you compare the March twenty four
quarter to the March twenty three quarter. So you've got
sixteen industry groups there, and of those eight showed growth.
Now the thing we've got to do here, Mike is
let's deal firstly with the fact that the numbers this
time around came with a reasonably prominent health warning blaming

(06:23):
COVID again. So what Sets New Zealand said is that
seasonal patterns of expenditure are still being disrupted by direct
and indirect impacts of the COVID nineteen pandemic. So, put simply,
some of this revolves around things like tourism related expenditure
so those seasonal adjustments and data series are sort of
well disrupted. So they say it's making it challenging to

(06:44):
estimate quarterly seasonally adjusted growth in certain areas household and
some expensure as one of those. But when you break
the contribution to growth down from different sectors, mic, I
think it gives the sort of non economist person out there,
of which you know most of us are. I think
it gives you a story you can get your heads around.
So here we go. Here's the story. You've got three sectors.
You've got the primary sector, the goods producing sector, and

(07:06):
the services sector.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Here's the numbers.

Speaker 9 (07:09):
The primary sector plus zero point two, goods producing minus
one point three, and services minus zero point one. So
here's your first takeaway from this morning. The agri sector
helped us out, So dairy and forestry outputs, their forestry
going okay, goods producing, manufacturing not in good shape, dragging

(07:31):
us backwards, and services well anemic. Morribn pick your adjective
on services going nowhere. But you can't just add these
UPMT because the different weights in the economy they have
different shares. So in the release we get the numbers.
Your primary sector is seven percent goods producing twenty services
seventy three.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
So if you run those numbers through.

Speaker 9 (07:51):
The big machine, then importantly this time around, add in
balancing items and unallocated items, and hey, press to abricabber,
you get plus zero point two GDP. Now all economists
sort of referred to the noisiness of the starto MIC,
so you can't discount revisions. We've got to talk about
GDP per capita negative zero point three and has been

(08:12):
now for six consecutive quarters.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
So whatever growth.

Speaker 9 (08:15):
You're getting, it's being shared amongst more people, and your
little personal slice of that growth is declining. From the peak,
GDP per capital MIC has now fallen over four percent.
And what's amazing is we're looking at all these numbers.
Now there is another number that is similar to the
decline that we saw in the GFC. We're getting all
these comparisons. It looks like the GFC. The other thing

(08:37):
is the imposs from migration. Get you know, we've got
this migration which is helping us stay above zero that
is slowing, so that impossible slow as migration slows, and
without wanting, I'm supposed to finish off without wanting to
get sort of two technical, but some numbers in this
thing just look a little weird. Private consumption in the
data has risen one point six percent in Q one,
so somebody somewhere with spending, and it sort of seems

(08:59):
out to step with other data implication of the RBNZ. Well,
I don't think it accelerates any plans to cut rates,
but it probably doesn't push them the other way either,
I think from their point of view status quo. But
it's a positive number, Mike, fantastic and the week on
that happy days fair enough.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Give me some other numbers, then I'll.

Speaker 9 (09:16):
Give you a Dow Jones that is up three hundred
and fifty points as we looked at it over thirty
nine thousand, thirty nine thousand.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
One hundred and eighty four.

Speaker 9 (09:23):
The S and P five hundreds down seven points are
not much five four seventy nine, and the nasdaqks down
one hundred and eight points seventeen thousand, seven hundred and
fifty three overnight. The FOOTS one hundred gain point eight
two percent eight thousand, two hundred and seventy two, the
NIKA up sixty two points three eight sixty three three.
The Shangha composit fell about point four percent. Just still

(09:46):
sitting over the three thousand mark there. The Yassis yesterday
barely moved seven seven sixty.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Nine, but we were up one hundred points.

Speaker 9 (09:51):
On the internets fifty love that point eighty six percent.
Eleven thousand, seven hundred and seventy one Kiwi doll a
little bit weaker against the US on the wholesale markets
point six one eight point nine one ninety four against
the Aussie point five to seven one four Euro point
four eight three one pounds ninety seven point two one.
Japanese Yen gold is at two thy three hundred and

(10:12):
fifty seven dollars, and break Crude unfortunately continues to grind
up eighty five dollars and sixty six cents.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Think we're seeing a trend. They have a good weekend, mate,
We'll catch up next week. Andrew callaher Jmiwealth dot co,
dot n Zsky. Big rematch coming in the women's basketball
in America. This is the Caitlin Clark story. She's up
against Angel Reese. If you haven't followed it, don't worry
about it. All I'm telling you about there's a fizzle
around women's basketball in the state's ticket prices this is
the fever via the sky. Most expensive inn WNBA history

(10:42):
average is two hundred fifty three bucks. That's one hundred
and eighty seven percent higher than the average purchase price
of eighty eight dollars. Cheapest tickets to fifty most expensive
nine thousand. Last Sunday's Game most watch game in history
CBS average two point twenty five million, peaked it over
three million the fever one ninety one to eighty three.
So women's sport can do well in the right circumstances.

(11:04):
Six twenty one. Here a News Talks.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Here'db the Mike Hosking breakfast.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
It's good stuff this morning, Mike. According to the Latoka tribe,
the birth of the white bison signifies the time of
prosperity is near. Thank you, Tom, I didn't know that.
It feels good, Mike. Is there a way we can
watch the Trump Biden debate in New Zealand? Of course,
it's called CNN. Get yourself hold of some CNN the
second one. See the one's on NBC or CBS or ABC.
You can't remember, but it'll be pumped out around the world.

(11:34):
Don't worry. I mean, this is the biggest news story
internationally politically speaking for some time, so this first debate
will be massive. Now the poll Fox Poll, this is nationwide.
I it's touch and go as to whether you want
to use a nationwide pole in the American races. I've
tried to explain several times over it's college votes two
hundred and seventy first, two hundred and seventy. It's the
states that count, not a national figure. If you go

(11:54):
to California, you're going to get one number, if you
go to Georgia you get another, and they sort of
mash it all together and come up with this generalized number.
The important point being, though tied has turned on Trump.
He's losing, So it's gone anywhere from I'm trying to
look at the chart, fifty forty five at one point
for Trump, fifty forty six, forty nine, forty seven, fifty

(12:15):
forty five, forty nine, forty eight, Boom, it's swipped, swapped.
Biden leads Trump now fifty to forty eight, fifty to
forty eight in the Fox News poll. Trump's taken it
in his stride, though, he said on Trump's social which
unfortunately has crashed shaerwise this week, but nevertheless he said,
the latest Fox newspoll is trash. They used to bias

(12:37):
Democrat leaning sample of voters, polling more Biden twenty twenty
voters than Trump twenty twenty voters. They also stole the
vote in Georgia. Arthias mentioned that sex twenty five trending.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Now MS Warehouse, the home of big brand skincare right.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
We've got a new trailer for a vampire. Where will
Movie horror seems to be a thing as movie struggle
to attract audience, The horror genre is holding up. I'm
reading this. One's gone number one on social media. Fans
loving it.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
These Woods and my Woods.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
I'm King of these woods.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
King ah, King of these woods, pronounced the princess. Where
are you always going? I heard your last night. You

(13:34):
need to take below.

Speaker 11 (13:35):
Away, always say I never anything of you.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Here's your father before your king.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh listen. If that didn't have that psycho music, that
would have been a crap trailer. Anyway. It's called Beast Within.
It stars Kit Harrington. It's out July twenty sixth and
theaters all over the world. He's from Game of Thrones
and POMPEII and How to Train Your Dragon and all
that sort of stuff. You noticed how I sound like
I knew what I was talking about. Then I had

(14:14):
to look that up. I don't know who the hell
he was, but anyway, that's where he's from. Power in
Northland and suddenly they go, oh, hang on, what's happening there?
I was falling over? So how did that happen? There's
your real question. Yes, I'm you know, it's a pain
not having any power, But the big question is how
did that happen. We're going to ask some questions of

(14:35):
Transparent a couple of moments. Nikola Willis on the GDP
and where we head from here. We'll talk to the
coaches McMillan and Cotter on the The Big Game. Timidicate
you do the week being a Friday, and a whole
lot of other random stuff's going to happen between now
and nine o'clock as well, and that's what makes the
show fun. News is next here, News Talk said.

Speaker 12 (14:51):
Be.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Your trusted source for news and fews, The Mike Hosking
Breakfast with Alvida Live, The Age You Feel News Dog said.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Belot's been in Vietnam and Hanoi. He's been talking with
to Lamb, who was the president of course, much to
the chagrin of the Americans. Speaking of which, in related matters,
I note that Stoltenburg overnight has said the record number
of NATO nations, there are thirty two of them. They
all promise to spend two percent of GDP on their defense.
Of course, very few of them actually did until Trump
came along and embarrassed them all and shame them all

(15:25):
because America is one of the few that not only
spends the two percent I think from last time I
looked at was three points something. Anyway, he's announced that
twenty of them are going to be spending them out
because of course they're increasingly worried with what's going on
in their particular part of the world, the link to
Putin and Russia, of course. And also of note this
morning Rutter, it's not official, but he's the Dutch Prime
minister on his way out, will be the new Stoltenberg.

(15:45):
Stottenberg's leaving after ten years and he now Rutter has
become the hot favor. The Romanian president was in the race.
He pulled out overnight, said Rotters, your man, let's go,
so they'll rubber stamp Mattin.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Off we go.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Twenty three minutes away from seven well Sutherlands died using
the last hour or so at the age of eighty eight.
Riginalalds all over that. So we'll go to the States
in just a couple of moments. Back home, Where are
we at with the power in the north after the
transmission tower fell over? Of course they got some of
it back yesterday. They were still limiting it last night.
Transperwer chief executive Ellis Andrews whether there's Ellison, very good

(16:17):
morning to you, mate. Just give us the details on
what we know this afternoon. We think everything's back. Is
that still the plan.

Speaker 12 (16:26):
At the moment.

Speaker 11 (16:27):
We're mobizing equipment we need to site and we're working
hard to get focus on restoration. Yesterday about eleven o'clock,
as you said, we bost a big transmission tower and
lot and took out two circuits we have which hard
to get as much power as we can back up
on the smallert supply line. We apologize to people who've
been impacted by this loot of tower. We know it's

(16:48):
very inconvenient. So we've been focusing all our efforts to
work on how can we get as much power as
possible up through the smaller one hundred and ten circuit,
the two BIB two hundred and twenty circuits which taken
out by this tower, and now we're working on how
can we restore one of those two twenty circuits as
fast as possible to make sure that everyone in the
north can get their power back. We believe we have

(17:11):
enough power up for most people, but it will be
impacted over those morning and evening peaks.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Okay, don't read, don't read press statements, Elison. Just talk
to me like a human being. When does the power
come back?

Speaker 11 (17:23):
Well, we can hard on getting the power back up.
Cruise Immobilized Engineering has been with you overlate. I think
we can do. We believes put up some temporary towers
in a ways terring a line across earliest would be
upsolete this afternoon or late Saturday. Realistically Sunday morning.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Wowsers, so it's a weekend potentially with trouble.

Speaker 11 (17:45):
Over a weekend, powder land is much lower, so we
believe that we'll be able to supply people over the
over the weekend. We're tricky this morning, Friday morning Friday
night peak, but we're going to ask people again who
have been very good to just manage if they can
not to put on a lot of power over that
peak period six to nine in the morning and then

(18:05):
five to seven at night or five to nine at night,
six to nine in the morning. If people can just
manage loads there, we should be able to get through
powers lower over the weekend, so people, we should be
able to supply all the people and if we get
the power blind back up and then morning we should
be find the Monday morning's peak.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
What have you heard about it falling over? Why does
a tower fall over?

Speaker 11 (18:27):
At the moment we focused on restoration, like, it's actually
really unhelpful to speculate as to why. We will be
doing a full investigation, but it's really important we keep
all our engineers, all our people working hard focused on
restoration and not get diverted at this point on what
went wrong. Please be assured we will find out what happened.
The tower should not have fallen over, but it's just

(18:47):
not helpful to speculate.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
At the moment bolts were out and water blasting was
going on it fell over.

Speaker 11 (18:53):
We don't know if those things were happening. We will
find out the information and we will make sure we
find what happened and learn from the event. But as
I say, we have to focus on restoration. Speculating now
is unhelpful. It just to its resources and stops the
effort from going on restoration, which is a complex stop.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Some of your people were in the area, weren't they working?

Speaker 11 (19:13):
We had a crew that was rotten on the towering
routine maintenance.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yes, right, so though working on the tower when it
fell over.

Speaker 11 (19:22):
We have people doing routine work up and down the
country every day on towers that should not have fallen over,
and we would do our best to do a good
investigation at the right time to find out what happened
in an infroment.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Do we need much of an investigation if you've got
a group of people there working on the tower and
the tower falls over. I think we've had that investigation
on that as they did something to make the tower
fall over, didn't they?

Speaker 12 (19:42):
No. I actually big to deferts and on the threat.
It's very tempting.

Speaker 11 (19:46):
I continue where you're going to try and do an
investigation on the fly that it's very dangerous. There are
all sorts of reasons and causes for why things happen,
and it's really important that we understand what happened and
get to the root cause so it can learn and
make sure it can't happen again. I understand thorough investigation.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Well, of course, and now I understand that, but I'm
looking at the tower. I'm looking at the whole, you know,
where the bolts are, and the bolts aren't there anymore,
and it's lying on its side, and we've ruled out
the weather. Have you ruled out the weather?

Speaker 11 (20:13):
By the way, we don't believe the weather was the cause.
And we've also expected towers on other sides of that
to make sure the bay are safe for restoration.

Speaker 10 (20:23):
Right.

Speaker 11 (20:23):
But yes, it's easy to speculate, and there will be
some people who are very intrigued about what happened, but
we will do a thorough investigation. But this is that's
really important. We don't divert people away, distract them. Then
maybe safety issues. We've got to focus on getting the
poor people. As an orphant who don't have power, it's
really important to get powered back to them as soon

(20:44):
as possible safe.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Quite right, if there was a crew on the site
and they watched the tower fall over, they would have
a pretty good indication as to what happened there, what
have they said to you.

Speaker 11 (20:55):
We haven't done a deep breath of that. The prove
ones aren't yet. We've been focused on instam.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
No one's asked a question like what the hell happened?

Speaker 11 (21:02):
I'm sure, I'm sure they have in question ANSD, But
I say.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
It, well, who would have asked those questions?

Speaker 11 (21:08):
The service provider is doing the work and.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
You have no interest in knowing what happened.

Speaker 12 (21:14):
Of course, we have.

Speaker 11 (21:15):
An enormous interest in knowing what happened, But having been
through a number of these serious incidents, it's really important
that you focus on efforts on festival, making sure that
the scienti is safe, and they'll inhert that you can
secure in the science, and they're restoring powers apply as
soon as possible. We will be collecting evidence, of course.

Speaker 12 (21:32):
But the investigations take time, and.

Speaker 11 (21:33):
It's really important to get to the root cause and
really understand the fact is you can't do that overnight,
and you certainly don't do it on the tray you did.
If you did, if it is dangerous speculation and you
may not find the root cause and you distract from
what is a really important.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Is okay, that's fine, if you find what has been
speculated is true? In other words, there were people working
on a tower, in the tower for all over. What
are you going to do about that?

Speaker 11 (22:01):
I'll find the root cause, understand what happened, what could
have causes that should not happen, What are our controls,
what have our procedures, what things happened that caused that?
And then what do we learn from that? And then
we'll take some actions. But there's all sorts of reasons.
I don't want to speculate them. Mom, why these things
can happen. It's what we understand, what control failed, and

(22:22):
therefore what can we learn from that?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Okay, appreciate you time very much. A loos and Andrew
who is the Transport chief Executive? Sixteen to seven.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
The mic hosting Breakfast Mike.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
They haven't talked at the TAR crew. They're probably still
running yaozer, Mike. She's a bit defensive, isn't she? And
she's smoking the text machine?

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Thirteen to six International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance,
Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Thank you time, Michael Richard, NLD Stateside. How are you
doing well, sir?

Speaker 10 (22:52):
Nit?

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yahoo? So it's all along with Lebanon now is it
is that where we're going.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
Gosh, the tensions these seems to be increasing on that front,
don't they. In the strange growing also between the Biden
administration and the embattled Israeli lead them the Israeli pm
NET who put out an accusatory statement on social media
slamming the Biden team for he suggested sitting on Israel's
weapons supply.

Speaker 10 (23:15):
It's unconcealable and in the past few months the administration
has been withholding weapons and ammunitions to Israel.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Israel America's closest ally.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
So making that statement on x and in English, so
how close allies are they? The White House press person
in Kareem, Jean Pierre, said that only one shipment of
heavy bombs is on holders we've heard about previously, while
billions of dollars in arms continue to flow into Israel
during the ongoing war in Gaza. She says of the

(23:46):
situation with all of this.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
We generally do not know what he's talking about.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
Yeah, the US put a hold on the heavy bombs
as it calls on Israel to hold back on a
four scale assault in rough says US Secretary of State
Tony Lincoln.

Speaker 13 (24:02):
Because of our concerns about their use in a densely
populated area like Rafa.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
That remains other under review, but everything else is moving.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
The US says Israel has not crossed the red line,
whatever that is in the ongoing war, in which almost
what thirty eight thousand Palestinians have been killed, while three
hundred and forty nine Israelis and the latest count have
been killed since the terrorist attack by Hamas on October
the seventh, the White House is denying reports. At a
high level meeting with Israeli officials in Washington on Iran

(24:33):
policy has been delayed because of the Nettuno who critique.
They say they're still just trying to work out the
calendar on that, so they are seeking to paper over differences,
but behind the scenes growing angst with nettanjo.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Who indeed Donald Suthern eighty.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
Eight yeah, in a Hollywood career that spanned more than
sixty years, he has died after what has been just
a remarkable career where Donald Sutherland appeared in more than
one hundred ninety films and television shows. Is voice was
iconic with its low, sort of rasping quality. His appearance
with a long face and droopy eyes was not that
of your standard movie star. In fact, he got his

(25:09):
first big role in the World War two sag of
the Dirty Doesn't when the director asked him to take
over from another cast member who had pulled out, and
Sullilan was part of the group. You were the big ears.
You do it is what the director apparently yelled at
him on that occasion. So that's some kind of an intro,
Is it not?

Speaker 14 (25:27):
Where you're from?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Don Madison sitting asir?

Speaker 15 (25:30):
Sir?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Ever heard of it?

Speaker 16 (25:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (25:35):
And on it went. Another war film took him to
top start, and when he played the role of military
surgeon Hawkkeyed Peers in the movie version of Mash, the role,
of course, later taken by Alan Alder in the television
series as it continued through many seasons, many years somewhere
before I don't know your name, stranger, but your face

(25:55):
is from here Ash of course, the Korean War drama
with Vietnam War overtones. Another of his controversial roles was
in Don't Look Now, with Julie Christie as his wife,
and including a sex scener gave rise to a deal
of speculation as to how graphic it was. In later times,
he was still just as prominent, appearing in everything from
National Lampoon's Animal House to Oliver Stone's JFK. Nan as

(26:18):
the President in The Hunger Games. He has died in
Miami after long illness. Word of his passing comes from
his son Keifer Sutherland, who, along with the rest of
the Sutherland clan, went on to work in Hollywood as well.
Says Kiefer of his father's career, I.

Speaker 17 (26:33):
Have always felt that not only is my father one
of the most prolific actors in the English language, I
think he is also one of the most important one.
He's someone that I've wanted to work with for my
whole career.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
And they eventually did so. Meantime, Donald Sutherland when Emmy's
had an honorary Oscar in twenty seventeen, when he told
his colleagues he did not deserve it, but then he
added he had arthritis and he didn't deserve that either.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Have a good week. Richard Nolds died side my decent
the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Where are the news talk?

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Said, I just quickly out of the States lawyers for Baltimore.
They're trying to keep the crew of the Dahli in town.
The DAHI was suggesting some of the crew they're mainly
from India and Sri Lanka, were going to be leaving
the country very shortly, and they went, m hm, hold on,
we've got a couple of questions. So they're working on that. Meantime,
Amazon California they've been fined five point nine million dollars
for labor breaches. Is that a lot? Not really? There
were fifty nine thousand of them, which by my basic

(27:26):
maths equates to about ten dollars per breach, So not
really going to amend the way they do businesses And Mike,
it sounds like the power company has brushed us all off.
They would have had interview's phone and team calls and
a preliminary understanding of the events. Min Now, of course,
they would way ask the question if you don't have
an inquiring mind, if you're not if you're a CEO
of a company where you look after power lines and

(27:48):
towers and the tower falls over and in the first question,
go what the hell happened there? If you're not answering
that and you don't get something back, you don't deserve
to be the CEO. Five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
They got a good idea. It's the fizz On the
Mike Husking Breakfast on News Talk z B.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I'm very sorry to say this, but wall is struggling.
I've long talked about Will on this program. You've got
the hard wall, You've got the Marino Marino I thought
was doing well. Not anymore. New Zealand Marino Company. They've
revised their trading guidance for the year ending this month
to an EBIT loss of one and a half to
two point one million, net loss of three point two
to four point three million. Big turnaround considering the guidance
in March of the half year results how they expected

(28:24):
a positively but and a net loss of only nine
hundred thousand. Anyway, what's happened is the old supply chain
we've got the we've just got, it's all backed up,
it's all jammed up in the system suddenly throwing the
wall through, and the demand has just fallen over. On
top of the supply problems, wool industry's costs have increased.
You got sharers. They're up two point two percent this year,
three point five percent last year, three point two percent

(28:45):
in the last two years. So I mean they're just
asking for more money every year. There is some positive
news for Marino. I'm by a New Zealand Marino jumper
this weekend. Do the industry a favor. Go I was
funny enough looking at Marino jerseys, fine knit Marino, you
will not find better anywhere in the world. And we
export this stuff too much of it, unfortunately to Italy
and they make it up into beautiful jerseys and they

(29:07):
charge one thousand dollars a pop. Go buy a New
Zealand knitted fine Marino jumper this weekend. Anyway, they expect
to see demand and conditions stabilize in the next financial year.
But once you've had a fine Marino short of cashmere,
I don't think anything beats cashmere, to be perfectly frank,
but you get a beautiful Marino, find Marina, possibly a
roll top, little turtlenick, something for winter to keep you warm.

(29:30):
Give that a crack and see how it goes for you.
GDP zero point two percent.

Speaker 10 (29:34):
It was.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
I mean, if I was Nikola Willis the finance ministride
come on the program and go, well, that's all us.
You voted us in and we grew the economy. First
thing we did, Mike when we got in first one
hundred days, we grew the economy and we've got prop
zero point two percent. Let's see if she says that
when we talked to her after the news which is
next to you with news talk set.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues the
Mic Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar, the Art of Performance Newstalk
sa'd be only.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Seven past seven. So we hauled ourselves out of recession
in the first quarter. That's the good news. The worries
some bit as virtually everyone thinks the current quarter isn't
going to be quite as good. The Finance Minister Nicola
Willis is well us very good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (30:11):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Is this part of your first one hundred days? Get
some growth?

Speaker 18 (30:16):
This is the long shadow that we always wold would
be there. You take over after a government pump the
economy for a cash field and inflational crisis. Infrastrates have
gone very high, and now the economy is hurting and
it is very tough. It's a part of the economic cycle.
It is difficult for people to enjoy. But what we

(30:39):
know is that we're going to come out of it.
Interest rates are going to come down that will breathe
life into the economy and we've got a plan to
grow it from there.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Well, that's good to hear, but interest rates aren't coming down.
And that's the problem with yesterday's number because it will
allow the Reserve Bank to come back yet again and
say everything's going to plan and we're not cutting until
next year. What happens between now and next year, because
that's a long time.

Speaker 18 (31:02):
It is a long time. What Treasury are forecasting is
for inflation to keep coming down, to come back into
band and their forecasting that from there you'll steep interest
rates coming down now when the Reserve Bank choose to
make that as their independent choice. But what we are
seeing in our forecast is that this is kind of

(31:23):
what the reserve banks said they were engineering. They said
they wanted to see the slow down. Well, this is
a slowdown, that is for sure. And what we want
to see is productive growth coming back into the economy.
And we're doing the right things. We're getting our own
spending under control. We're also making sure that New Zealanders
have more cash in their own back pockets. This winter

(31:44):
sales tax release coming at the end of July, and
where we're working on the underlying drivers of productive growth.
You know, it is the sensible thing. Education and skills, infrastructure,
more competition, less red tape, stronger global connections, getting some
capital into the country, smarter approach to science and innovation.
Those are the things we have to do. It's not

(32:06):
a silver bullet, but unless we do those things, this
economy will keep bouncing along the bottom. So we're taking
that challenge very seriously.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
All of that is true, but it doesn't get fixed
next week, next month, and maybe you could argue not
even next year, because what you've just outlined are big
picture things. You're asking New Zealand is to endure a
very long period of very difficult times.

Speaker 18 (32:28):
No, I'm also delivering things this year. I think it
is really important that tax reduction is coming at the
end of the July. That is sunlight and what would
otherwise be a very challenging winter. I think it is
important that we're significantly increasing local road maintenance projects because
actually that funding goes straight into people wearing hard hats

(32:50):
and hivers. They're projects that can start quickly. They're not
long term infrastructure projects that consist of a picture of
light rail on a page. They're actual people filling actual potholes.
So we are doing practical things. I know that's what
New Zealand does.

Speaker 16 (33:04):
Require of us.

Speaker 18 (33:05):
Right now. We're getting on with it. We have and
hear it's at a mess. I completely acknowledge that. And
I know that some people hear that and they say
we'll fix it overnight. But you know what, Grant Robertson
punt the economy with cash. He's through inflation very high,
much higher than in other countries than the world assisted
for longer, and now here we are. Economics has its

(33:26):
own gravity and we're going to focus on giving the
economics right.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Is good news coming this afternoon on the drug front,
we will be long. It is what times the announcement?

Speaker 18 (33:39):
No, no, it's not. I don't like building expectations.

Speaker 10 (33:42):
No it's not.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Okay, So the reportage this morning is wrong. Is the
next week an announcement on the far make money?

Speaker 18 (33:50):
I look, I've been saying all week we'll be making
announcements shortly.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Okay, So the reporters this morning is wrong. It's not
coming today.

Speaker 18 (33:57):
It's not coming today.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Will it be signed off by CAVI on Monday and
then coming next week after that?

Speaker 18 (34:03):
As we've see it. We've been working very hard on
this policy, Marke, and we going to make an announcement
very shortly. We can a lot of people want to
hear it.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Good stuff, You have a good weekend, appreciate it very much.
That's all we needed to hear. So the reports of
this morning that it's coming today is wrong and they
should have worked that out because the story they wrote,
and I think this is stuff strikes again. They're saying
it hasn't. On one hand, they're saying it's been announced
this afternoon, six hundred million for the drugs and what's
interesting about it, it's not specific to the thirteen that
gets David Seymour out of jail. It's just a general

(34:32):
increase for Farmac. Could increase their budget by forty percent.
We're talking six hundred million dollars. That's over four years.
And then halfway through the story they then say it
hasn't been signed off by cabinet. So join some dots
person who wrote the story. If something hasn't been signed
off by cabinet, you can't announce it this afternoon, and
Cabinet aren't meeting this morning. Small clue. So when they
meet next week Monday they'll sign it off and then

(34:53):
they'll announce it next week. But that seems to be
potentially some good news. Twelve hundreds past seven, right you
t West in the Middle East, Israel's now talking about
an offensive on Lebanon, a decision and I mean in
all out war with his Blas coming soon. Apparently the
director of the Center of Peace and Conflict Studies at
a Tiger, you know, Richard Jackson's back. Well this Richard,
very good morning to you.

Speaker 10 (35:15):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
If it's all on with Lebanon, is it all on
in the Middle East as the region.

Speaker 16 (35:20):
Well, that is certainly the risk. It's it's a tinder
box at the moment. And you know, over the years,
has Bulah and Israel played this sort of careful game
of cat and mouse, both sides sort of sticking to
certain rules to make sure it doesn't escalate. But the

(35:40):
conditions over there now and the incentives for Natanya who
as well as Yeah, the breakdown in the kind of
terrence that Israel has always postured, Yeah, makes it a
very very dicey moment.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Does Israel have the wherewithal to go after Hamas and
his bela all at the same time.

Speaker 16 (36:05):
No, I don't think so. I mean, Hasbola would be
a much much bigger proposition than Hamas Since the two
thousand and six war, they've been massively re arming and
they have a lot more sophisticated weapons. They've also shown
that they can send new sophisticated drones into Israel under

(36:27):
their radar as so to speak. And you know, they've
threatened that they would do much much worse than they've
done before. And Israel is already struggling in the sense
that you know, they're calling up people up to the

(36:49):
age of forty now because they're running out of recruits
as it were.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
So, yeah, who's run out of a war cabinet? Which
is the other problem. How much is this purely about politics?

Speaker 16 (37:00):
A lot of it is about politics. Not only are there,
you know, growing divisions within Israeli society, but there's growing
divisions within the coalition. And you know, it's a tried
and true method that a war will unite things for
a time. And it's possible that Nanna, who's calculating that

(37:21):
in order to stay in power because he doesn't want
to lose power and have to go back to court,
you know, a fight with Hesbola would unify the nation,
but also it might actually help to re establish the
sort of fractures that are occurring in US support exactly,

(37:44):
US would have to step in, probably.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Exactly, rich appreciate your expertise as always, Richard Jackson. So
there's old Anthony Blincoln firing up the jet engines yet again,
Director of the Center of Piece of Conflict Studies at
Tiger University. Of course, fifteen past seven passal thanks to
support for the wool industry. Also maybe suggest buying a
wall carpet or a rug with all the fire retardant
health benefits. Yeah, we get to love. We'll buy Marino
or any New Zealand wall blankets. Mike, nice plug for Marina, Mike,

(38:07):
classy and comfortable. You can't go back to synthetic. Couldn't
agree more. Hey, do you want to tarn a update
from the Green Party? I've got one fifteen pasted.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
The Mike Hostle breakfast, Mike Ree.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
The reporter on the par Mak News. The reporter is
cleanly and idiot. All of them go that far necessarily,
COM's one O one. You released bad news Friday, not
good news here. That was the other giveaway one cabinet
hasn't signed it off until you don't do it on
a Friday afternoon. It was my next question. If Nikola
was going to go no or yes or stumble around,
I was going to go why would you do it
on a Friday anyway? So here's the problem. First of all,
National should never have promised thirteen medicines for cancer, should

(38:41):
never have done it stupid. And then having made that mistake,
they're then doubled down on the mistake by not even
delivering far maker independent. They must remain independent. David Seamo
was trying to make that point all along. So Shane
Retty and Scrutiny Week this week goes, yep, absolutely all thirteen.
Because the other thing Chris Jackson, if you talk to him,
he wrote the list cancer specialist. He wrote all thirteen
says most of them are out of date anyway, So silly, silly,

(39:04):
silly politics. So Retty then turns up at Scrutiny Week
and goes, don't you worry all thirteen are coming wrong?
Willis goes, well, some of them might be coming problem.
Seymour goes, I can't make a commitment. He's Seymour's the
Minister in charge of farmak of course, so the whole
thing is a mess for the government, a hole they
should never have dug, didn't need to dig, and then
they need to work out how to extricate themselves from

(39:24):
the whole. That hole will be extricated from come Monday,
presumably Monday or Tuesday next week when six hundred million
dollars is announced for some of the drugs, but it
will go to farmak to be able to allow them
to go right, will go out to the marketplace. So
it's sort of an elegant solution that shouldn't really have
had a solution in the first place, because they should
have done their job properly and thought it through. Mind you,

(39:46):
you don't take bolts out of transpower power lines, do you?
You know what I'm saying, when you go do a
better sand blasting, just speculating, so, Darlene Tanner, it is
reported this morning, tells a migrant work of the same
migrant worker. There are two migrant workers. One of the
ones that lodge the Employment Relations Authority claim tells the
migrant worker that he was able to work in her

(40:09):
husband's bike shop on a seasonal work visa, despite that
visa clearly stating he could only work in heart and viticulture.
And if you know anything about visas, very clear, whatever
your visa sees, you've got to do. You can't just
go around swapping jobs. Because during COVID they had that
the hospitality visa, remember that problem that people were in
one bar and that couldn't work in a restaurant, and
the whole thing became a cluster. If you've got a

(40:30):
visa for hort and viticulture, that's what you do. You
don't work on bikes. So have Darlene's done that and
advised him. She's broken the law. Especially if he's gone
and done it, he's broken the law, he's broken his
visa conditions, and her advice is illegal. So that's your
update this morning, and that gives you some indication, just
maybe as to why this thing hasn't been resolved yet.
The more year deep, the more you dig, the worse

(40:52):
it becomes. Seven twenty Costil Breakfast. Mike comes so skeptical,
I suspect your updates to tell us there is no update,
but I'll wait with bita breath. Well, how wrong were
you you, little cynic Hey. There was a top shelf
update in my book seven twenty three. Time now to
mark the week. Little piece of news and current events
that's more popular than a parking spot at a green
party soiree. Princess of Wales nine day, She's looked radyant,

(41:17):
sheese looked well, she lifted our spirits and wasn't many
respects The highlight of the week for me anyway. Sea
List is seven, very watered down to the Sea List
really burner the week. I love people who call it
like its greenny flat seven common sense. Let's have more
common sense, shall we. Peter Dutton six overtook Elbow as
preferred prime minister this week. Remember this bloke allegedly was unelectable.

(41:39):
It is a remarkable turnaround. Nigel Farage eight.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Isn't it funny?

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Speaking of turnarounds, It's built on hype, not stable policy
and foundations. But that's how the game works, and he
works the game like few others. He is the story
of the UK race so far al might end up
being the story of the night. A GDP eighty camel. Yeah,
come on, we beat Australia. Can't you feel the growth?
Surely this makes us the rockstar economy. Surely are the

(42:04):
plane three.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
That's disappointing that the plane can't get us there.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yep outworking some numerous governments that lacked the backbone and
never understood basic investment the plane.

Speaker 9 (42:12):
It is embarrassing, But then it happens to other countries
as well.

Speaker 12 (42:15):
Does it?

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Because I think this was the final straw. I think
this was so pathetic we will actually do something about it.
Sale GP for they said they wouldn't be back, and
they won't be. When a dolphin beats growth and tourism
and marketing and income explains a lot about the Malays turbulence. Three.
I mean Wellington, Queenstown and the coffee is all over

(42:37):
the place. Why do we insist on wanting cheap chips
and bad coffee on short flights? Janet Dixon six?

Speaker 12 (42:43):
The mainstream media, you've got an attitude and they just
won't budge good.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Luck to real estate agents. Get what the argument's all about.
But I suspect in court she's going to lose. Sadly
screwed New Weeks seven.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I don't know who mixed it up.

Speaker 14 (42:55):
It was that in Minnesota should have muck up. Do
you think I'd be nervous to front Goldie or some up.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
If you followed. It actually worked out as a good idea.
I learned a bit. A lot of questions got asked,
some revealing answers got given, some got caught out, some
performed well. It was a valuable exercise, I think Eden
park hay.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Me, oh my, I haven't enjoyed that.

Speaker 9 (43:12):
Yes boy, me, oh my, I haven't enjoyed that.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yes boy, yes boy. Super rugby game sold out about
booming time. We'll talk to the coaches shortly. Joe Parker eight.
Good to see her. Good morning, Yeah, warm vibes from me.
Really nice guy sits comfortably these days in his own skin.
It's been awesome to watch over the past decade. That's
the week. Copies on the website, and six laminated versions
of these have been sent to Ginny Anderson, where she
can write, don't park here, you pillock on the back Husky.

(43:41):
The CEO of Transper leaves in nine days. Doubt you'll
ever see her again. That's true. I forgot that. You
knew that if you're a regular to the program. But
she announced her her retirement some time ago, and she
probably had drinks lined up for tonight. It was probably
your last week in the job, and they're going, oh,
bloody towel fell over, and at no point did she
ask heye, what happened there? Mike, what's a millionaire? Surely

(44:04):
you're looking at five million and up. Most people would
have one point five up to two million in assets.
The reason you're asking that question, I'm assuming is from
the millionaires moving around the world this week. In Britain anyway,
and there are some nine and a half thousand millionaires
leaving Britain this year to go to places like the UAE,
Germany and the USA. They equate it as a million liquid.
So in other words, yes, you got your house and

(44:24):
all that sort of stuff, cash it all up. If
you still got a house, you still got a car,
and you've got a million bucks sitting in your pocket,
that makes you a millionaire. That makes you a floating
millionaire sort of person who wanders around the world. Mike,
can you please find out what brand water blasted transpower used?
I need to remove my concrete driveway, thank you, Warren.
I reckon, it's a still. If you're wanting to blow
over a transmission tower allegedly allegedly, sorry, allegedly, I think

(44:51):
you'd go with a still, Mike. I suspects someone's public
liability insurance policies and for a workout, Jack, I think
you are spot on right, Oh, Clayton McMillan, and also
the bloke who coaches the Blues, who's a guy called
voon Cotta. McMillan v Cotta on the field and off.
We talked to both gents after the news, which is
next here at Newstalk.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Soon you're trusted home for news, for entertainments, an opinion
and fighting the Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate
altogether better across residential, commercial and rural on News talk edb.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Mike Northam really does get a hammering at times. And
we're not isolated because Auckland's and Lockdown were cut off
by our poor quality roads. Now it's the power. All
we need is for the fuel line from Marsden to
Werry to beat us. It's so true. I'm very sad
to read Flur Sullivan, who's a legend in this country,
is closing up her Maraki Boulders restaurant called Flu's Place.
I think it's called FLIR's Place. I think they've all

(45:45):
been called FLIR's Place. I first met Fleur many many
decades ago in Clyde in Central Otago where she ran
It's right Flur's place, and that was legendary and then
she sort of disappeared and she ended up at Moraki
where the Boulders are just south of Homouru and they've
been closed to her restaurant. She's one of those culinary geniuses.
And if you've ever been to her restaurant over the years,

(46:07):
and either in Central Otago or Maraki, you know what
I'm talking about. And yeah, there are international players who
come to the country and are just gobsmacked by what
she's done. Anyway, they ran into a bit of trouble
and COVID like so many hospitality businesses, and so she's
selling up, she's moving on. So one of one of
the great names, one of the great contributors to the
New Zealand hospitality scene. Twenty two minutes away from eight

(46:27):
Padi after eight being a Friday morning, of course, but
we've got to Super Rugby Finals time. The Chiefs roll
up the road to Eden Park to take on the
Blues that has sold out Eden Parker Chiefs coach Clayton
McMillan is with us on all of us Clayton. Very
good morning to you.

Speaker 10 (46:39):
Good morning Mite.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Tell us about your Susan. How do you feel that's
gone for you, given there's been so much hype and
noise around, how you've come right at just the right time.

Speaker 10 (46:50):
Yeah, I'll look, we've got off to a bit of
a flyer at the stand of the season, sort of
lost our way a little bit in the middle, probably
a refiction of us acknowledging that we needed to make
some shit in our game and that at times made
us a little bit clunky, but still managed to talk
up enough ones to guarantee guarantee ourselves a quarter final
home quarter final with a couple of rounds of spare,

(47:12):
and that allowed us to freshen a few bodies up,
and then here we sort of got our game going
at the right end of the season. Hopefully you can
go one.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
More, would you? I know, I haven't said that was
what you did last week? Would you be disappointed if
you couldn't finish it properly?

Speaker 11 (47:27):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (47:28):
Every game is different, you know, Like we've we've managed
to get up two weeks in a row. Last week
obviously took our physical toll on the side, losing a
couple of key starters. But you know, we've freshened up
well and we just respect what the Blues have done
this year. They've been you know, really probably performed team

(47:48):
in terms of their consistency right throughout the season. Haven't
waivered too far from the game. It's worked for them,
very direct, very powerful, great set piece. So what we
go up there confident in our own but know that
we're going to have to go and do and everything
that we get exactly.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Have you got a plan specifically to them for that game.

Speaker 10 (48:09):
Yeah, it's one of the benefits of only haven't played
them sort of three weeks ago, get a bit of
a feel for you know, we can make some shifts
in your game, and we're the margins were and the
loss for us, So I feel like we've taken on
some good lessons and obviously we've performed a lot better
in the last couple of weeks. So it will put
them under just as much pressure as they'll put us under.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Good some of the newer players, do you have to
have a word with them about the occasion and the
psychology of it all, or you're all on board together
and set to go.

Speaker 10 (48:40):
Oh and some of our experienced guys and coaches get
around some of the youngers, iyers who it will be
the first time they're played in front of a significant
crowded in the final, particularly a few that have probably
grabbed the headlines in the media of the last few
weeks through their performances. They're the ones that we probably
get around and just make sure that I understand that
this is not about you big play making a big play.

(49:03):
It's about just being consistent in the things that have
probably put them in the headlines. And if the team
does well, individuals will prosper.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
How many at the park do you reckon they're going
to be Chiefs fans.

Speaker 10 (49:16):
I'm hoping about twenty five thousand. Yeah. Look, it's not
a big not a big drive up to even part
from Hamilton these days. And there's a link that went
out earlier in the week for members, and I think
they got distributed amongst their rugby fraternity pretty quickly, so
a lot of people jumped on board and got tickets.

(49:38):
And yeah, there's a bit of history of white lots
of fans Chiefs fans heading up the road and enjoying
some success, so I hoping that that continues.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Good stuff. Good to talk to you and go well
this weekend Clayton McMillan, who is the chiefs coach. Of course,
other side of the equation is the Blues coach vern
cottter Verne. Morning to you, Mike. Who would have thought
all those years ago at the Steamers that when you
were looking at that ment mc McMillan, guy, he was
going to be a coach opposing you in a big final.
Isn't life funny? Ah?

Speaker 13 (50:05):
Yeah it is. But he's always had those qualities and
him as a leader, and he loves the game, so
I'm not surprised that he's done so well.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Tell me how you got toy Poloto right? I mean,
how does that work?

Speaker 13 (50:19):
There was just a process, day by day. Process didn't
look good at the start, but we've had cases of
this before where players improved quickly and gain confidence enough
to say we'll have a crack. So we went through
that process. Monday strapped up and felt good. Tuesday went

(50:39):
through a robust session, collisions and all the things that
you need to have in the game at the top level.
And he just looked at me, smile and said, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
That's amazing. What's his value?

Speaker 13 (50:51):
Well, miserable really and the fact that he's one of
our senior players. He's a leader, he's a stream and
putting everything in place around set peace. He's very good
in collisions and carries and gives boys around him confident.
So it's been it's been a good boost for us.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
What value or weight do you give the home ground thing.

Speaker 13 (51:14):
On a final? I think there is. I think there
is going into it once the referee blowsers wire selling
your start. Any minutes you're in, you're up and down,
and momentum shifts and all the emotions are there to
spectators and even players themselves. So it's the eighty minister
counts and both teams will have prepared well and other

(51:36):
chiefs are reasonably confident coming to Eden Park. But it
is our home ground and the boys are very proud
to play there and they'll feel the support from our supporters.
So it'll a little bit good battle.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Good stuff. Boon't go well, appreciate it very much, Boon Cotter,
who's the Blues coach. Of course, Elliot is going to
do the call for us. Best in the business. It
is seventeen minutes away from it, all of us, Mike,
of course, it was all of us. I don't know
why I said it was flues. It just struck me.
I probably am too old to do this job anymore.
I'm just coming to this conclusion. I can't tell the time,
and I put out an increasing amount of dodgy information,

(52:09):
and I'm just thinking at some point, at some point,
someone's going to go, is he okay? And I'll be
the first to put up my hand to go. Actually, no,
I'm not. By the way, some very interesting reading on
EV's You want a bit of EV Talk, don't say no,
because it's my show, So MeV talk in a moment.
Sixteen to eight the make costing breakfast all the Aldi

(52:34):
supermarket in Australia. They've done a very good test and
we'll talk to Mary Olds about it in about forty
five minutes time. So they went around first basket of
goods report from the Consumer Group Choice and it seems
to back up the Commerce Commission view of not most
of our views in general, that more competition would be
good for the punter. So they had these mystery shoppers
went around for the basket of goods. They saved seventeen

(52:57):
dollars on average when they filled the standard basket of
goods at all the instead of Wolworths and Coals, So
they sent eighty one stores across the country, list of
fourteen basic items apples, carrots, wheatbick, sliced white bread, flour, panapasta,
white sugar, tea bags, tin dice, tomatoes, a block of
tasty cheese, full cream, dairy milk, frozen peas, beef, mints,
and butter. Average Alie basket was fifty one fifty one

(53:18):
with and without specials, Woolworth sixty eight fifty eight or
sixty four ninety three with specials, Coal sixty nine sixty
three or sixty eight to fifty two with specials. So
you save seventeen dollars on fourteen items, twenty five percent savings.
So that indicates to me that's a material saving. If
they said it was a dollar twenty, I would have gone,
who cares. But seventeen dollars on a small spin like that,
that's a real saving. That means to me that competition

(53:39):
is a real thing. So we'll talk more about that.
EV's two pieces of really interesting reading about what's going
on in this country with the car market at the moment.
One is the driven people, which are part of the
Herald well worth reading. They talk with the bloke who
runs Toyota narach Lala. Now the advantage Toyota haves they
only got one EV and that's good because no one's

(54:00):
buying EV. So if you don't have many to sell,
then you haven't got a problem, have you. What they
do have as cars that go brum brum, and they
got land cruisers, and they got they've got some hybrids.
I don't know that they've got any plug in hybrids.
I might need to be corrected on that, but they've
certainly got ten hybrids. They've got one EV. So in
other words, they've got a mix of cars that New
Zealanders want, including utes, including vans, including you know, things

(54:23):
like Pradas and stuff that we love. They got back
orders up the wazu. This goes back to sime and
Brown yesterday when he was talking about reevaluating the cleaner
missions thing for importers. So what Toyota are having trouble
with at the moment is everyone wants a land cruiser,
but they can't bring land cruisers in in the numbers
they want because that's bad for the environment. What they

(54:44):
need to bring in is evs and hybrids, but people
don't want them in the same numbers. And that's what
Simeon Brown's trying to fix. Meantime, over at MG, Chinese
company who do nothing but make evs, their sales this
year are down ninety You cannot make money or keep
a door open in a business when your sales have

(55:07):
dropped ninety percent. Now the bloke who runs MG in
this country saying the car buying public is confused. I
don't think the car buying public is remotely confused. I
think the car buying public knows exactly what's what. What
the car buying public in this country want is a
car with an engine, and they don't want a car
unless it's subsidized heavily by the labor government. Then they'll go, oh, well,

(55:28):
mos will buy a car because it's cheap because the
government's paying for it. And when that stops, guess what
reality strikes and guess what your sales are down ninety percent.
And I'm not making fun of MG. I feel bad
for anyone who's not doing well. But one company, if
you read it, has read the market right. One hasn't,
And therein lies the fascination with the current car industry.
In this country at the moment, turn away from it.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
All the my costume Breakfast with Jaguar usn st B.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
It's Away from a Country is only festival dedicated entirely
to chocolate's on today. Chockstock brings producers from across the
Pacific to the capital of The co founder was Luke
O and Smith. Who's well, there's Luke morning.

Speaker 19 (56:04):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
I do one block of dark one hundred per day.
What about you?

Speaker 19 (56:11):
Oh wow, I'm surprised to hear that.

Speaker 20 (56:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
I love when I say sorry, when I say block,
I don't mean a block, I mean a look I
picks an individual that it's square.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (56:19):
Yeah, I love having a piece of one hundred percent
with my cup of tea in the morning.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Yeah, exactly. So a block a day keeps the I
don't know what it keeps away, but it's it's It's
good for you, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (56:26):
It's good for you for sure? Yeah, especially one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Are you freaking out about the price of cocal.

Speaker 20 (56:34):
Well, I'm not.

Speaker 19 (56:34):
A chocolate maker, so I'm not so much. But I
think I think the chocolate makers are definitely having some struggles.
It's yeah, I mean so what do you talk about
everything else?

Speaker 3 (56:43):
You're just an entrepreneur's got no relationship with chocolate at all,
and you just gone on and I'm going to organize
a chalk stock festivals.

Speaker 19 (56:50):
I've worked in the chocolate industry for about ten years.
I used to have a retail shop selling craft chocolate
from all around the world, and then I do like
journalism and chocolate judge and organizing this event. So yeah,
all sorts of things.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
What to chocolate judging. What's your view on people who
stick random crep inside the chocolate like pepper?

Speaker 19 (57:09):
Then I guess, you know, I think it can be good,
but it has to be done well. You know, personally
I tend to stick mark to the single origin stuff,
but I do like a good flavored bow and it's done.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Well exactly how bigs the festival? And I asked that
because of course you'll be aware of and those sort
of thing. You know, the craft chocolate industry seems to
be like the craft beer industry. It seems to be
slightly problematic at the moment.

Speaker 19 (57:32):
Well it's oo isn't exactly relevant of everything that's going on,
but it's it's still quite a new young movement. I
would say, so, we're we're growing quite a lot. Like
there's about ten times the makers, ten times three times
the makers there were a few years ago right now,
so it's it's kind of it's blossoming, but we're still

(57:54):
early days. We haven't quite reached where craft chocolate craft
areas at the moment, and we're still.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Do we have a sorry to right? Do we have
a sophisticated pelot? I mean, do people know what they're
tasting and want to taste in the profiles and all
that sort of stuff.

Speaker 19 (58:08):
I think it's developed a lot of the last ten years,
but I think there's still a way to go. When
you compare it to wine, you know, where you know,
if you have someone what wine, they're like, they'll probably
tell you like a cab save or whatever. Whereas if
you have them watch chocolate, they're like they might just
say like dark or milk.

Speaker 15 (58:25):
You know.

Speaker 19 (58:26):
It's like that level of understanding of the complexity. But
it's it's changed a lot in the last ten years,
and it will still change more.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
How long you've been in the country.

Speaker 19 (58:35):
Look about twelve thirteen years.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Are you voting in the election?

Speaker 19 (58:43):
I imagine I will, Oh, you mean the UK. Yeah, yeah, yes,
I probably will. Yeah, I need to check if my
brother can do my proxy vote.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
But they change the rule. You can vote for River
now exist right and you.

Speaker 10 (58:57):
Yeah literally for River.

Speaker 19 (58:59):
Yeah. I always have voted since our last Yeah, good
on you.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Well, go well with the festival this weekend. Appreciate it
very much. Luke Owen Smith. You see how random that
interview was, then come on, you won't get that on
Morning Report. Mike. It's easy to tell it's Friday. You
definitely have that extra Friday octove in your delivery, obviously
easily excited at little mischievous boy in a candy shop

(59:24):
or rather a chocolate bar. It's great to hear, Christopher.
Nice of you to say, I don't know what comes
over me on a Friday, but it gets a little
loose around the edges. But look, I'm enjoying it and
it's all part of my therapy. And I think that's
why they keep me here, you know, because it might
be dangerous at there to let me out. News for
you in a couple.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Of months, the newsmakers and the personalities, the big names.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Talk to Mike Costing Breakfast with our Veda Live the
Age You feel News, Talks, Evvy.

Speaker 14 (59:53):
And plenty of names. One of pink Skales. You're tired
them to enjoy screen, the house clear, the drawers stand tall.
No one's been here before. Then, don't you mention Holly

(01:00:17):
in shins at a screen? Tony do refrain you tiptoll
up to four on back.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
The Mike Hosking recommendation for the weekend as you download
this port where Zack Bryan pink Skies, go by your
fine Marino neit Jersey. So this is going to be
a good weekend, So go by a fine Marino nit Jersey.
Doesn't have to be roll top or turtle Neckjard, but
just get support the industry and download Zack Brian pink
Sky's the single It's coming from the album The Great
American Bar Scene. The album's imminent. He releases albums with

(01:00:49):
little no advance warning. He did a live album, put
it out Christmas Danel and saw it coming to that
a year and a half ago. I'm teasing nobody, says,
I write and record music reckless and fast. That's how
I run the show, Isn't it reckless and fast?

Speaker 10 (01:00:59):
That's me?

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Said tracks on the album Coming or sixteen in a poem.
Proudest I've ever been of a piece of work. That's
not me on the show. That's Zach talking about a song.

Speaker 14 (01:01:09):
Now never said a thing about Jesus. Saw the way
he's living.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
A week in review with two degrees bringing smart business
solutions to the table.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Cadie played it for you.

Speaker 12 (01:01:21):
How good I know.

Speaker 21 (01:01:22):
I thank you for loving it.

Speaker 12 (01:01:23):
Mate. I discoverment this week and I seens it to
Mike and I said, you want to put this on
your playlist? Such a great song.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
When she sees tim she sent it to me. We
no longer live together. Things haven't gone well. So if
she just just flips me music whatever via.

Speaker 12 (01:01:36):
The internet, he's checking we do live together. I just
seen the music so that he can, you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Know, from one side of the house to the other.

Speaker 21 (01:01:42):
Playlist.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
We no longer communicate because we're both on our phone.
She sends texts, shopping lists, music stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Like that Spotify.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
This is the only time we talk to each other
actually on the phone like this.

Speaker 21 (01:01:53):
Well do you? I mean, look, you want me to
get out of the road.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
I don't want to know you're mediated mediator to anyway.
He's fantastic it.

Speaker 21 (01:02:03):
He does sound fantastic. Does sound fantastic? I think I
heard the name Jesus mentioned in that song.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Just out religion in there.

Speaker 21 (01:02:10):
Yeah, well, yeah, religion and faith. A quick question, if
you and Kate had an exchange like you had with
that Transpeer CEO this morning at.

Speaker 12 (01:02:19):
About oh oh my goodness, should be anyone that missed
that interview with the trans Passo before seven should go
back and listen to it, because no wonder this economy
is on life support. She is if she's supposed to
child for productivity, corport and media trainers should listen back,
good listen and what not to do?

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Don't you think?

Speaker 12 (01:02:40):
Did you?

Speaker 21 (01:02:40):
Because because I heard Wendy Picture reported at seven thirty
that she's resigning, is that because of the interview she
would have been going pretty quick?

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
You're sure That's why I felt bad because she had
actually announced her retirement the other day and this would
this would have been a drinks night when the when
the powerpole fell over and so's it's ruined farewell drinks thing.
But here's the funny thing about Allison. She we had
her on when when Gabriel was on right and she
came on and blew me away. She was so knowledgeable

(01:03:09):
about what was underwater, what was over water? What what?
What was a subpower station that needed fix it? I thought,
my god. Then this morning we catch up and she's
reading from the.

Speaker 12 (01:03:19):
Present, which is unforgettable. Her pr people should be telling
he needs to do that, and and she hasn't even
spoken to the crew the on site when it fell over, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Hello, do you do you believe that? I don't believe it?

Speaker 21 (01:03:34):
And I gotta say, I gotta say you pursued it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
You know what you are?

Speaker 21 (01:03:38):
I figured it out. You're a Sigma.

Speaker 10 (01:03:40):
Riz.

Speaker 21 (01:03:41):
Do you know what that is?

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I do not?

Speaker 21 (01:03:44):
Okay, Okay, so you know what Rizz is?

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Right?

Speaker 21 (01:03:47):
You're down with the kids?

Speaker 12 (01:03:49):
Yes, that means he doesn't.

Speaker 21 (01:03:53):
No, he literally it's a short form of charisma.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
You got the Riz who's got that retrospectively Now I
knew that.

Speaker 21 (01:04:03):
I just forgot it.

Speaker 15 (01:04:04):
Yeah, and a Sigma.

Speaker 21 (01:04:05):
Now, Sigmas their confident, ambitious, strong, but their value independence
and here's you solitude. It's but they're not like your alphas.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
No, No, I'm a Sigma.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Risk.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Sigma is if I do nothing else in my I
don't know how much longer I've got left in this career,
because it seems to be unraveling in a fairly fast
rate of not But if I do nothing else in
this career, if I get people to have an inquiring mind,
a more inquiring mind, I refuse to believe that, as
the chairman of the board, a CEO of anything, that

(01:04:37):
when your tower falls over, the first question you w
don't ask is how the hell did that happen? And
if I went on in an interview, I'd go, Look,
you would understand that I can't give you the full
details at the moment, But I asked that question. I
have a pretty good idea of what went on. If
it's what I think it is, all hell's going to
rain loose, and when it does, I will let you

(01:04:58):
know and come back. There's your aunt, isn't it?

Speaker 10 (01:05:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:05:01):
But it was?

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
She's going to be helpful?

Speaker 12 (01:05:07):
Is she one of the c listens that went on
to Cinder's trips? Maybe a d lister.

Speaker 21 (01:05:17):
I'm wounded by that, but keep talking so good.

Speaker 12 (01:05:20):
I loved should call.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
I couldn't be.

Speaker 12 (01:05:26):
I couldn't apologized for saying it. He shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
He should never have apologized for saying it. Unless you're
factually wrong, then sure, you apologize, but if what you're
offering is an interpretation based on personal experience, which is
what he was, you you say it and you stand
by it because you believed it when you said it.
And that's that's that's the sign of gonads and the backbone,
and that that's what I like in people. Because I'm

(01:05:51):
a cigarets to me, cigares.

Speaker 15 (01:05:55):
I've hated you a knife, please please?

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Hey, Okay, do you want to play a game?

Speaker 12 (01:06:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Okay?

Speaker 12 (01:06:03):
What City is a family friendly game?

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
It's so family friendly. That's all part of that's why
we're playing this game. It is so family friendly. I'm
going to let you think about it because I'm going
to pose a question to you, a question for you
as well, Tim, and you can come back. I think
you're going to get the question wrong. But let me
pose the question to both of you. What's the happiest
city in New Zealand? Officially?

Speaker 21 (01:06:25):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:06:26):
Oh, I know it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
It's not you know it's not what isn't it?

Speaker 15 (01:06:33):
It's not Auckland or Wellington?

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Correct, well done? No, it's not Willington, Rockland. No, no, no, no,
Katie more shortly, Kate Hawk's being Tim Wilson fourteen past eight.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast Your.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Talks Me sixteen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
The Weekend Review with two degrees, fighting for fair for
Kiwi business.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Mike, have you lost you marbles today? That's not an
unfair question, Katie? Can we can you trans Sam four dollars? Caddy?

Speaker 21 (01:07:10):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Can you trans Sam four dollars?

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Give me his account number for the coffee? Give us
your account number? Sam? Oh three? He went and got me,
He went and got me coffee, and I once again
have no cash. And then Andy, Andy was sitting there
and he goes and is Sam using his own money?
I go, it's complicated, Andy, Yes he is, but I'll
get it back to him somehow. And so I couldn't

(01:07:36):
work out how to get it back to him. So
all I can do is get you to trans him
the money.

Speaker 12 (01:07:41):
Yeah, or you could take him cash. You should.

Speaker 21 (01:07:43):
Actually, don't you have a card?

Speaker 12 (01:07:45):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
I'm no give it to him. I have no card.

Speaker 21 (01:07:48):
You don't have ANOST card?

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
I'm a cigarettes.

Speaker 13 (01:07:49):
Yes you do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
I don't know what you why, I don't know what
my password and my number is? Is my problem right here?

Speaker 10 (01:07:58):
It is?

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
But if you can trans him that'll be good because
I hate owing people money twenty twenty four. Actually, can
you transmlate twenty dollars and then I can have, of
course a.

Speaker 12 (01:08:08):
Lot of line of credit with we have the conversations
off there, we can probably have This is probably an
afair conversation. I realize you stitched me up and there
was a trick question about the city, wasn't it because
this was yet another one of your little ruses to
get me to move to christ Church, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Christ jujit is?

Speaker 21 (01:08:26):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
The twenty twenty four Happy City Index by the London
based Institute for Quality of Life. They look at education,
inclusive policies, the economy, mobility, environmental protection, access to it.

Speaker 21 (01:08:42):
Can you just care about inclusive policy that people I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Will have dropped personally, But they look at innovation and
christ Church is the happiest place in the country.

Speaker 12 (01:08:55):
Wow, I'm not surprised. My system is there and she's
eternally happy to be there.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
That isn't that? Isn't that all you need to hear? Katie?
Surely we can move now with that news. It's in
the gold category. Tim, I will give you eight thousand
dollars Cadie, can you trans tom eight thousand dollars if
I lose?

Speaker 21 (01:09:15):
If what wait wait wait wait wait I don't I
don't want you, Luca? What what for?

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
What is the happiest city in the whole wide world?

Speaker 15 (01:09:23):
Happiest city in the whole wide according.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
To the Happy Index by London based Institute for Quality
of Life. If you get this eight eight thousand dollars
coming to a charity of your choice to me, you ready,
go for it? Go, don't google it?

Speaker 13 (01:09:33):
Go Tokyo, Tokyo.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Not a bad guess. I mean, it's not even close
to being right, but it's not a bad guess. It's
our hoose. It's our hoose. Hush, where's that second question?
For four thousand dollars? In what country?

Speaker 21 (01:09:50):
What? What say it again?

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Hoo's a r?

Speaker 21 (01:09:53):
Are you saying it right?

Speaker 15 (01:09:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Oh, here we go? Pronunciation?

Speaker 9 (01:09:58):
Where's that?

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
It's in Denmark, second largest city in din Mate.

Speaker 21 (01:10:02):
It's it's always the scandy. It's always I said.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Earlier last morning, him it's always the scandyes, siting of
smiles it's known as.

Speaker 12 (01:10:11):
Yep, good on them?

Speaker 10 (01:10:13):
Hey, how do you smile?

Speaker 21 (01:10:14):
They haven't been they haven't been to bluff during oyster season.
Come on, what the heck do these schmucks in London.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
I haven't had bluff oysters this season so far, and
I'm going to do it this weekend. Along with buying
a fine Marino jersey to support the wool industry, I'm
going to have some bluff oysters.

Speaker 15 (01:10:35):
Sounds like it sounds sounds like you're all you're all
set for another week of can do you just get
your own?

Speaker 21 (01:10:46):
There's a thing called cash funny colors and you can
fold it.

Speaker 10 (01:10:50):
And no cash.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
I have no cash, no matter.

Speaker 21 (01:10:54):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know how
much Ris. You got to be honest, I think you're
just a plan on sigma. I'm taking away your risk.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Did you hear Joseph Parker of the interview?

Speaker 12 (01:11:07):
That was brilliant.

Speaker 19 (01:11:07):
He's such a cool guy, isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
A lovely guy? I'm so fla. He has come a
long way, and that's that's what, you know. One of
the great joys of this program, which clearly I'm not
going to be on for much longer, so I might
as well start saying goodbye now. But one of the
joys of this program has been interacting with people over
a long period of time and you see them grow.
And I did it with John a Longu over the

(01:11:29):
years that which started way back on breakfast television when
he was a kid who could barely string two words together.
And I've seen Joe Parker over the last eleven years
really come into himself and he's such a lovely guy
now and it's just been a joy to watch.

Speaker 21 (01:11:42):
And that's what Kate and I have seen working with you.
You've really come into your own Michael.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I find I find that's not.

Speaker 21 (01:11:50):
The trainer wheels are coming off now.

Speaker 8 (01:11:52):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Do you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
I am? And that's what I'm afraid of. And the more,
the more, the more of me I do exactly, Yeah,
they do, they do anyway. Nice to see you and
you have a lovely weekend. You go into the game
tim tomorrow night oh two.

Speaker 21 (01:12:12):
Right's got to be the Blues tabs back in them.
That'd be they're on a streak. It's the home team
count lose.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
You're the man. I don't know why we got out
when we've got term for goodness sake. Nice to see you, Kadie.
I'll send you a text. Been good talking to you.
Send me some more music Kate Hawksby and Tim Wilson
eight twenty two The make.

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finding fresh bluffies isn't easy. I stumbled on two bottles
at our local New World, but that was the fourth attempt.
Where are you? Ian talke to me? Where are you?

(01:13:40):
Come on? In morning? Mike purchased two M K M
Woolen jerseys this week New Zealand will Made in New Zealand.
Lee enjoy them? What colors? Let me know, Mike, check
out Cactus Clothing from christ Church for your fine Marino
support New Zealand Made. Mark can agree with you more
am supporting New Zealand Made Mike Rhea aHUS. We bought

(01:14:00):
a b and O stereo there, but you know banging
olives and I got a story about a bang in
oliveson stereo and who bought me one? Once winded up funeral,
just working out which I'd rather do ACU, I'd rather
listen to us packed the car and here I might
tell you the story after the news.

Speaker 14 (01:14:21):
Young blo Earth and plenty names under pink skales. You
taught them to enjoy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
The Breakfast show You Can Trust, the Mic Hosking Breakfast
with Jaguar, The Art of Performance, News togsad.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
B Mike put the house on the market, spent a
couple of weeks in christ Church's looking at real estate
and buy some property for half the price. Brilliant city.
I'm doing it next year. Yeah No, I don't know
anyone who's moved to christ Church, and a lot of
people have moved to christ Church who hasn't gone fantastic?
Best thing over? Did Morning Mike get a Hempreno. New
Zealand made Marino and Hemp jersey from Glenard Station, as

(01:15:04):
seen on Country Calendar. I saw that episode of Country
Calendar and they're a lovely couple who have done that,
and they make some cool stuff and so there's no
shortage of stuff in my campaign to get out there
and buy yourself a New Zealand made Marino jersey this
coming weekend, twenty three minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Nine International Correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 20 (01:15:25):
I make Murray Aulds's got to tell you, ma'am Michael,
very good morning, pretty good This week.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Thank you. Where do I find you this morning?

Speaker 20 (01:15:32):
Way down in South Australia, near the mouth of the
Murray River.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
This is where you've been before, isn't it.

Speaker 20 (01:15:37):
Yeah, we spent some time down here. We just come
down for another road trip. Have a look wide brown Land.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Can you see the Murray River from where you stand currently?

Speaker 20 (01:15:47):
Not right now, it's very early in the morning. But
if I open the window, I can probably hear it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Oh that's love, How I love the Murray River. People
don't understand how big the Murray River is. Of course,
then the states that it flows through in Australia and
what's the project in Victoria that got into so much
trouble and the they were going to damn it or
get the water flowing in a different direction or whatever
it was ten years ago, big, big, big story.

Speaker 20 (01:16:15):
I don't remember any plan to damn the Murray River,
but there would have been a hell of a scream
from South Australia. I can assure you that's the drinking
water of the whole state exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Well, that was part of the problem, and so it
was running dry anyway. The reason the reason that's interesting
is because Dutton this week and is nuclear I know
you don't like Dutton, and I get all of that,
but you look at the poles this week, you look
at the preferred prime minister and is that guy hijack
the entire political debate or does he hijacked the entire
political debate?

Speaker 20 (01:16:43):
He certainly he's thrown a hand grenade into it, as
you say, preferred Prime minister. Bang And look, I did
some stats and knew you wanted to talk about nuclear
energy and fifty two percent, according to the latest Essential Pole,
fifty two percent now support developing nuclear energy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
This is this year.

Speaker 20 (01:17:02):
Thirty one percent of repose, so say fifty percent to
thirty percent, twenty percent sitting on the fence. Back in
twenty nineteen, forty four percent was saying not, you know,
absolutely not, and thirty nine percent was saying yes. So
analysis this week very interesting. The power quote unquote involved
here is not about eating our homes and keeping the
lights on. It's about political power mic winning it and

(01:17:25):
keeping it. Peter Dutton certainly is offering something here that
many people, given the cost of living crisis, are we
going to be heating or eating tonight? This is a
real thing for many Australians Mike, as you well know,
and so Peter Dutton has certainly thrown a political sort
of hand grenade, if you like, into all of this.
This is now a mainstream issue nuclear energy. It's going

(01:17:46):
to be fascinating to see how labor responds. There's been
a massive pushback, as you might expect from local government science.
The States don't like it either. You know, big questions,
where's the expertise, where's the workforce coming from. What's it
going to cost to build these government owned you know,
atomic energy power plants. Who's going to foot the bill?
What about waste? What about public opinion? Dutton isn't worrying

(01:18:10):
about all of that. He's saying, trust me, we'll we'll,
we'll fill in the details after the next election when
he might be Prime minister.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Yeah, exactly. And of course he had no he had
no numbers, and you know, some people, one of the
power organizations said they couldn't do it, and it was ridiculous.
The whole thing was ridiculous. Now, the other thing that
sort of dominated conversation at your place this week has
been this Chinese premiere and I don't know that Elbow
came out on the top of this because the woman
who works for Sky whose name Ley, I can't remember
her surname ching Ley, so she was blocked. I mean,

(01:18:40):
they behaved in a disgraceful fashion and he should have
called them out sooner than he did. Isn't that fair?

Speaker 20 (01:18:48):
Well, I don't think that to be fair. At Albanisi,
I don't even think he saw that. I mean, it
was just ridiculous. It looked like, I don't know, the
three stooges at the back of the room. She had
a camera there. She works for Sky News. Now, this
is a woman Chinese Australian journalist who was locked up
for three years and there's some piffling, bloody nonsense. They
accused her a bit of espionage was the phrase they used. Well,

(01:19:10):
it's stupid. She's a journo. So now she's back home.
She's been released, back home now working for Sky News.
She goes obviously was sent to the news conference with
Albanzi and the Chinese premiere. And what are these clowns
in the Chinese embassy? Do they stand in front of
a camera? So she changes seats, they go and try
and stand again. And to the you know, the credit

(01:19:31):
of the young women who were working for the Department
of Foreign Affairs and Trade. They went over there a
bit like I don't know, but like a rugby league
a tackle. If that had been seeing of the referee,
they would have got three weeks in the sideline because
they've absolutely knocked these Chinese spies out of the way
and said, excuse me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
We're in Australia, you fools.

Speaker 20 (01:19:51):
So look, I don't think you can attach too much
blame to Albanizi. It was on the other side of
the room. He's got his hands full trying to read
the autocue to say how delighted he is to be
the leader of a mendicant nation.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
I did the numbers on the show earlier on Oldie.
You can't argue with the savings, can you. I mean,
if they'd saved a dollar fifteen then you haven't got
an argument. But the money they saved on a small basket,
that means that. And it's important here because we allegedly
don't have enough supermarkets, and there's a big battle on
to have more supermarket. Until we had more supermarket to
get better prices, and that all the tests simply proves

(01:20:24):
it doesn't it.

Speaker 20 (01:20:25):
Well, it does. This is choice Australia. Of course the
consumer's friend. It's the organization that just runs the ruler
over the cost of things. And as you say, it's
as planner as the nose in your face. They went
out and bought identical items and Wilworth's coals and Aldi.
Aldi is making a big, big inroad over here into
the duopoly that we have. Then they bought things like bread, butter, mince, cheese, cereal,

(01:20:49):
fruit and vegetables. Well, the average Aldi spend fifty one
dollars fifty for the exact same items. Willworth's sixty eight
dollars sixty coals almost seventy ucks.

Speaker 10 (01:21:00):
So what do you do?

Speaker 20 (01:21:02):
You go and shop at Eldie, particularly when times are
tough and one of the big two do ah, you
know we've got slightly bit of produce. People who are
struggling don't give a rats about that. They want to
go and get the cheapest vegetament, you know, fruit and
vegetables and what not to feed the family. And so
Cole's and will Worth. All this does. Mike has added
to this push to to bring in new measures over

(01:21:23):
here to deal with issues like gouging, like ripping off
your supplies, like gouging customers at the checkout.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Yeah, no, for your point, the handsome thing with Robert Ouwan,
is he gonna has that gone anywhere other than a letter?

Speaker 20 (01:21:36):
All it's done is give Pauline Hanson's cartoon about how
bad the Queensland labor government has. All that has given
that a hell of a lot more airtime. I mean, Bob,
Bob Irwin says, oh, fair suck of the save Siller.
I don't like my image being used in this way?
Was his his bugger off? It's great, we love it
and so look, is it going to get the court?
I doubt it very much. I mean, Bob Urwin police.

(01:21:58):
He's twenty years old. He says, OHI take it down exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
I'm not so aware.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
We go exactly. Hey, how long is this road trip
going on for?

Speaker 20 (01:22:07):
I hope to be back next week at some point?

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Because I asked you this last time, because you drove,
didn't you?

Speaker 10 (01:22:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:22:13):
Yeah, we're down here with the car. I love the
new outing. It's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Last time we talked to it
was the Mitsubishi.

Speaker 20 (01:22:20):
No, well, you recommended the out he so I went
out and got one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
It's a lovely vehicle.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
What have we got a dieseler? Petrol and ev you're
plugging a p here?

Speaker 20 (01:22:27):
What do we got No, no, no, it's petrol. It
does take the expensive fuel, but it goes like a
rocket ship.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Oh that's the story.

Speaker 10 (01:22:33):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Murray Weld, I knew you good on your cat and
you have a very good time that thanks. It's only
that he thinks I'm mad, doesn't he? I mean you
hear it the laugh at anythings playing NASA? What happened
to the Bob Car legal action? Remember that? Speaking of letters,
Bob Carr wrote to former New South Wales premiere, wrote
to Winston Peters, Remember Winston Peter's to fame. He's going
to take legal action. And I said at the time,

(01:22:55):
didn't I say at the time nothing would come of it?
Has anything come of it? What I was talking about,
just in case you think I'm even more nutty, was
the Murray Darling Basin project. And I've looked that up.
So largest and most complex river system in Australia counts
for fourteen percent of Australia's land mass. Healthy rivers and
waterways contribute to our people economies. So a sustainable plan
for water use was needed that protected the health.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Of our rivers.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Blah blah blah. That's what I was thinking about. Just
to just in case you're sitting there thinking, you know,
I was making stuff up again. Eight forty five, the
make hosting racist morning might concern citizen here. How are
you going to purchase some Marino clothing? You've got no
cash or cards? Very good question. But Katie all trans me.
She'll see me right now. Where is it all? Let's
look for the last twelve years of our marriage. Mike
Dutton is a bit of a humorous dork, worse than

(01:23:38):
Abbott in my eyes. But nuclear is better than the
idea of snowy eleven the billion dollar battery. Dave, thank you.
I think Dutton, I sort of take on board what
Murray's saying. He's right and he's wrong. I mean, yes,
you know, the here and now is of interest of
all of us really, and nuclear is a massive, big
picture type of thing that's decades in the future. But
what he's managed to do is literally steal the political conversation.

(01:24:01):
And it's not been pooh poohed completely. It's not one
of those things that everyone's people are gone. Actually you
know what. Renewables don't work. You know what Paris is unrealistic.
Not everyone, but enough people to give them some real
cred and I think the poll numbers backed them up
this week. Hosk. Maybe you're thinking of the murhm Bidgie
irrigation area. No, no, it was the murray daley and basement,
is what I was thinking of, Mike, being a leading

(01:24:22):
motor and commentator. Well, it's very nice of you to say.
Do you believe the RDI Etron gt is good buying
at around half the new price for one that's two
years older. Do you think there'll be virtues virtually worthless
in the future, Stu, It's very good question. I've driven
the UDI Etron, I drive the gt RS and that
is a bullet that is a very very very powerful
ev The standard GTS moderately powerful and you'll enjoy it

(01:24:45):
and quite a good looking car apart from anything. If
you can get one two years old for half the
price and they'll back the battery, I think at least
till eight years to seventy percent for eight years, I'd
go for it. You can get it for half price,
all looking car, but for the same money I'd still
go with a Porsche, just saying you asked ten minutes

(01:25:10):
away from nine on my.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Cost feel breakfast is with's Arvida news talk, said be Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
When I lived in Nadelaie Penny Wong was going to
fix the Murray Darling crickets Morning, Mike Westbridge are west Ridge,
west Ridge, New Zealand from mus and jewels. Helliwell at Lawrence,
beautiful jerseys Marino lined on the inside and Perindale lambswool
on the outside. Wow, here you go. By the way,
Speaking of cars, the Chinese want twenty five percent on

(01:25:37):
cars imported into China. So this is the EU thing.
They're threatening up to thirty eight percent from July four
and so the Chinese have had a special meeting. Apparently
this is not official, but they've had a special behind
closed doors meeting. They've asked for twenty five percent for
anything going into Europe. So that's getting nasty, isn't it.
What's going on with the bins in Ashburton? Saw a
beautiful house. Listened to Nashburton yesterday. I said to Katie,

(01:25:58):
I said, can we move to eshburtns has stop talking
to me? Have a look on one roof look under
Ashburton and that there's a current. It's a house with
a name. Don't you always want a house with a name. Anyway,
It's a house with a name. It's got a beautiful
surround veranda, and it's on a couple of hectares of
flat land and Ashburton with a beautiful garden is absolutely glorious. Anyway,

(01:26:20):
I'm not going there, so it's still on the market.
Recycling though I probably wouldn't want to move to Ashburton now,
though I know that the recycling's going on. Rogue household
in Ashburton. Household was accused of putting out multiple yellow
and red bins to dump four hundred and eighty kilograms
of rubbish and then acting quote unquote extremely abusive. They
were doing the old audit. It's been carried out since
twenty twenty, so you're talking about a four year audit.

(01:26:42):
That's quite an audit. Property has been using its yellow
recycling bin as a rubbish bin for two consecutive weeks.
That's not on absolutely unacceptable. The property had also three
red bins. How'd you get three red bins? I had
two ones full disclosure, moved into a house and I
had two full bins out the back. I went, hello,
We've got two bins. This is excellent. So we kept on.
We didn't do anything about it, and we just kept

(01:27:02):
putting out two Binsichen everywhere.

Speaker 10 (01:27:04):
Is that like?

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Is that someone going to arrest me for that? Is
that against the rules? Five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Trending now with Chemist Well house Keeping Kiwi's Healthy All
Year Round.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Tell you what we found. This is an exclusive to
the Mike Hosking Breakfast. I'm going to play this. Have
a listen to this. This is this is a bloke
singing and you will never in a million years, Yes,
who it is.

Speaker 10 (01:27:25):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
It's time, lu It's time like this you give and
give again. It's time like thegal to love again. It's
times like these, time it again. Nope, health are.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Supposed to go.

Speaker 21 (01:27:58):
A pars and mass self against something in the orange.

Speaker 15 (01:28:03):
She tells me, I'll never come man.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Hold what you're hearing there, I think I'm right saying
this as you're hearing sort of him, and then a
produced ish version of what he's been doing, so hence
the sound quality improves. That's on his personal vlogs on
his YouTube page and His YouTube page is worth following
because he leads to an interesting life. He drives fast cars,
and he sings songs.

Speaker 10 (01:28:25):
Who is he?

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
Liam Lawson? Blow my mind? I was told the other
day that he's a singer and I thought, whatever, anyway,
that's Liam lawsoned pretty good a anyway. He'll be in
Spain this weekend, probably still frustrated about what's going on
because he's he's he's weighted and when do I get

(01:28:50):
a damn seat? But Spain this weekend is going to
be exciting. So a little bit of f one, a
little bit of Super Rugby. They've got the Warriors. Of course,
tomorrow it on the gold case. The mighty tightens, so
enjoy all of that. Get yourself a Marino jersey, go crazy,
do something you've never done before in your life, laugh
a bit, and then we'll see you on Monday at
six o'clock. As always, Happy days.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
It sounds like these, Learn love again. It sounds like
these time.

Speaker 6 (01:29:17):
And time again.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
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