Full Show Podcast: 15 July 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The breakfast show You Can Trust the Mic Hosking.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate differently since
nineteen seventy three news talks had been on.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
He worked him today the assassination attempt and what do
they do now around security? Mark and Tyler one of
the most famous voices. And football is in from the
Euro finals this morning. Your rules are unclaying or and
bad tenants. That's playing dividends and the lads in the
commentary box, of course up the way, Richard Arnold, Steve Price.
They add plenty as work. Hosking'll be back. Welcome to
the week, seven past six. Obviously you can't make the

(00:30):
stuff up. Very deep in the crisis that is Biden
and his inability to look anything close to a presidential candidate,
we are then distracted by the other bloke getting shot.
Was something as ugly as this always bound to happen
as America really that broken Trump obviously is not the first,
but it's been a long time since Reagan. Couple of
odd things. Why were his shoes off? Why do issues

(00:51):
come off when you hit the ground. This is not
to diminished or take away from the seriousness of the
event of course, but it seems odd as regards his reaction.
Working for him is the fact he was able to
get up, raises first, and yell out numerous times the
word fight. When age is an issue in a campaign
and you have the energy to one take a graze,
to get up and raise your first and turn it
into a photo opportunity, that's going to play exceedingly well

(01:12):
for you. He looks like a fighter, is also, i assume,
exceedingly lucky to be alive, given whatever hit him didn't
hit him properly, which then leads to the question, how
do you change your campaign going forward? Security wise? Obviously,
the convention this week will be locked down, but November's
a long way away and a lot of rallies need
to be held. As much security as Trump had yesterday,
it wasn't enough to stop someone crazy having a crack

(01:35):
on security. By the way, although it didn't stop it,
you had to see the swarm to believe it, didn't you.
I mean, they were nowhere to be seen until they
came literally from everywhere. Good luck trying to get into
something presidential going forward. None of this, of course, plays
well for America. The current president is in severe and
obvious decline and seemingly refusing to go anywhere as his

(01:55):
party implodes with panic. Meantime, the guy against him as
a shooting victim. Does that say about the country and
its place in the world? The US presidential campaign of
twenty twenty four. If you think you can guess what
happens next, you're dreaming.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
News of the world. In ninety second.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
And twenty hours on, there's still plenty of witnesses with
plenty to say.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
We heard something that sounded like a firecracker, and we
turned around and there was people behind us, and it
was two of our guys.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
I think, and can't wait if I'm shooting back me sorry, y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Hit the ground. Hit the ground, yea.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
When I looked over and then I saw the smoke
from the gunfire.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
The big questions are around, of course, how the shoot
had got on the roof.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
We noticed the guy crawling army you know, bear crawling
up the roof of the building beside us, fifty feet
away from us. We could clearly see him with a rifle.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Absolutely, now the investigations well under way. Of course, the
FBI need to work out how you can get back
close to a candidate.

Speaker 7 (02:53):
There's going to be a long investigation into exactly what
took place and how the individual's able to get access
to the location, what type of weapon he had, all that.
It is really days, weeks and months of investigation.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Now the President rang Trump and his White in again
this morning.

Speaker 8 (03:10):
The idea that there's political violence or violence in America
like this is just unheard of. It's just not appropriate,
and everybody, everybody must condemn it.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Everybody of the government of Pennsylvania is pay tribute to
the victim who lost their lot.

Speaker 9 (03:23):
Cory died a hero. The Cory dove on his family
to protect them last night at this rally. Corey was
the very best of us.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
And already we've got the politics creeping in.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
The former President Trump definitely kicked open the door to
political violence, and it increased under his tenure in the
White House.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
And that person, by the way, is a Republican that
for now used the world of ninety.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
This is unused.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Told sid be developing story.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
He's running forty minutes, but he is bought in love.

Speaker 8 (04:01):
There is no place in America for this kind of violence,
or any violence for that matter. An assassination attempt is
contrary to everything we stand for as a nation. Everything,
it's not who we are as a nation. It's not America,
and we cannot allow this to happen. Unity is the
most elusive goal of all, but nothing is important than

(04:24):
that right now. Unity will debate and will disagree, that's
not going to change, but we're going to not lose
sight of the fact who we are as Americans.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
Look.

Speaker 8 (04:37):
Vice President Harris and I were just briefed in the
situation room by my Homeland security team, including the Director
of the FBI, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the Attorney General,
the Director of the Secret Service, my Homeland Security Advisor,
the National Security Advisor, and we're going to continue to
be brief The FBI is leading this investigation, which is

(04:59):
still in the early stages.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
So that's Biden from the White House, flanked as by
Kamala Harris as well. A lot of people briefing them.
But a lot of questions and the fundamental one that
came out of yesterday. You can watch all of yesterday
as most of us did, but the question at the
end of it, how do you get on a roof
that close to a presidential candidate? And that is the
question as we sit here this morning. That remains unanswered.

(05:21):
Richard Arnold. Shortly twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
The Mike Costing breakfast.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Mike, and we now braced for all the wild and
we had conspiracy theories to start flooding the internet. Brendon
that started about five minutes after the shooting yesterday morning,
speaking of which, the current thinking is this will play
well politically for Trump. He's a martyr. Therefore the election
in many people's minds, are now over. Reagan, by the way,
for what it's worth, went up twenty two points after

(05:47):
the assassination attempt all those years ago on him. Fifteen
past six. Let's go Devin Fund's management, Greg Smith, Morning.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
To you, Morning to you, Mike.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Gee's back to the New Zealand economy. I mean, where
do you start manufacturer retail looks like a yeah, that's
a bit.

Speaker 10 (06:01):
It's a pretty challenged out there. Although we'll provide a
little bit of a glimmer of hope here, but we'll
get to that. So this is card spending data. So
you look at that and retail industries on debit, credit
and charge cards that fell point six percent from major dunes.
That's a reduction around forty million dollars. Biggest moves when
fuel that was down almost five percent, twenty four million.
Spending on durables that's long lasting stuff that was down

(06:23):
eight point two million dollars. Consumables that was twelve million dollars. Low,
hospitality spin that was down six point four million dollars. Actually,
we had another iconic place sort of closed down after
thirty years in Auckland. That was pretty sad last few days.
Spending on motor vehicles that was down two point eight percent,
around five point three million dollars.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Low.

Speaker 10 (06:41):
Spending on nine non retail though, might was actually up
to thirty eight million dollars. So that's stuff like medical
and health care, so pretty defensive. Overall tartor electronic cards
spending June was down around eight what was eight point
five million dollars, That was down around half percent. So
it's really the retail spin, the belt tightening, thear that's
continuing to drag down. One element of positivity if we

(07:02):
can look at that, things might be slowing down in terms.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Of the weakness.

Speaker 10 (07:06):
So you look at a quarterly basis, spending in retail
industries was down seven hundred and forty million dollars, so
three point seven percent from March to June. So you know,
in comparison the forty million fall from May the June
shows and the downward slides may be easing, but yeah,
we need a bit more data, and it certainly feels
like things are still tough out there, and that's what
many retailers are saying as well.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
And exemplified by manufacturing, which seems to have been going
backwards forever.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Now, yeah, that's that's.

Speaker 10 (07:31):
Right, and so yeah, the weakness in retail is driving
in the weakness of manufacturing along with residential construction also Liast.
This is the further confirmation here, Mike, came with the
benz Heead Business newsum performance of manufacturing that fell sharply,
the forty one point one in June, that was down
for forty six point six in May. The you know,
the the report was told of pretty honestly three fall

(07:53):
and that's pretty much what we've seen. We've actually seen
the print at the lowest level since the GFC in
two thousand and eight, then the downturn, and she hasn't
reached those depths, but the weakness has gone along and
as you point out, the PMI has now been below
forty so that's contraction mode for twenty two consecutive months.
So looking at the detailed production that was pretty weak
and new orders are low. Employment activities week, and you

(08:14):
look at the in the comments from the survey, the
proportion of negative comments stood at seventy six point three
percent and they focused heavenly on economic slowdown. That was
from sixty three and a half percent of May. It's
tough out there. Business liquidations there on the art good
news if we can take some there. We saw what
happened last week. The Reserve Bank they might be getting

(08:35):
really to provide some help in the form of lower
rates and also with inflation continuing to four so your
markets are now pricing in an a November raker.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
All right, give us a quick read on the US
down popped.

Speaker 10 (08:46):
Down pops Rebecca about forty thousand on Friday, despite some
fairly uninspiring direction to some of the bank results. So
JP more than that was lower. They said, the defaults
a potentially ticking up. They've allowed three billion for credit
losses this years. I've actually been trading at called Highs
City Group as well. Similar story. They're propped up by
investment banking Wells FAGA that was down about six percent.

(09:07):
But banks overall haven't been doing pretty well this year.
But the feed as well looks like it's getting ready
for a rate cut potential. In September, wholesale prices they
came in higher than East made for June. But we
had that CPI print on Thursday. Inflation running a three
percent in your rates, so you'll see if things turn
away from the magnificent seven laws. Also the banks might
We are seeing older economy style stocks start to perk up.

(09:29):
Do one name home Depot that was up over six
percent last week, as well as the ROLL two thousand
in nets. And these are small to mid sized companies,
so investors perhaps seeing a soft landing for the border
economy and they'll boost smaller economy, smaller companies.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Right like the rest of the numbers on me.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yeah, So the S and P.

Speaker 10 (09:47):
Five hundred was also about point six percent, as was
the NAIs deck that was at eighteen three nine eight
FOOTS one hundred is ze point four percent. They might
be getting ready for a win in the UK. Who
knows two five one A six two hundred that was
up point I'm seen nd fifty we're up point six percent.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Actually the best.

Speaker 10 (10:03):
Week so far for the Kiwi market this year, so
that was good news. Up two point eight five percent
for the week. Gold that was down four bucks twenty
four hundred and eleven. US announce all down forty cents
a two spot twenty in the currency markets against the
US Q sixty one point two. That was up a
bit ninety point two against Ozzie that was flat down
slightly against stealing forty seven point one.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Big week, Ahad Mike.

Speaker 10 (10:24):
We've got Chi on GDP data, we've got new US
retail sales, we've got the ECB meeting, we've got more
banks supporting, we've got Netflix. But a big week on
the conflation print front. The long awaited June quarter CPI
expected to see inflation moved down on an annual eight
to three point six percent from four percent of the
last print.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Well the type, so go well make catchup. So appreciate
it very much, Greg Smith, Devon Funds Management, Paskal. And
just in time for the new Prime Minister. The UK
economy grew in May by zero point four percent, so
he's going to pull out on him, by the way. Suddenly,
all of a sudden, they weren't sure of him, then
they elected him. Now they love them. Can't get enough anyway.
Broad based recovery services sectors up, production construction rebounded Goldman

(11:05):
Sex last week upgrade its growth forecast for the UK
as well. So things looking a little bit better in
the summer of twenty twenty four in Britain six twenty
one POS talks in.

Speaker 11 (11:16):
So many about it.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Wall the mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Pretty sad to report Shenon Doherty has passed away of
a ninety eight of fifty three Beverly Hills nine oh
two one oh. Of course, her publicist Leslie Sloane, it
is with a heavy heart that I confirmed the passing
of act with Sharon Dohity on Saturday, July thirteenth, this
American time, of course, she lost her battle with cancer,
up the many years of fighting the disease. The devoted daughter, sister,
aunt and friend was surrounded by her loved ones as

(11:43):
well as her dog Bowie. Her family asks for privacy
at this time so they can grieve in peace. Brenda
walsh Or was the character of course, diagnosed with breast
cancer back in twenty fifteen. Other slightly more upbeg news
speaking of cancer and connecting it directly to Cap Middleton,
who turned up at Wimbledon overnight, which was wonderful to see.
She was there a couple of weeks ago, of course,

(12:04):
at the trooping of the Color, and she looked fantastic,
and she looked even more radiant overnight, as Alcarez won
the men's final, there was a suggestion that she would
be able to make it. The Palace confirmed twenty four
hours ago that she did, and indeed she did, and
so Alcaraz beat Is this the end of Jokovic? When
you're beaten in three?

Speaker 11 (12:21):
We can only hope.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
I love Djokovic, don't talk like that. So anyway, she
was wearing a thirteen hundred pounds bespoke dress from Safia,
got a standing ovation, brought along. Princess Charlotte Pepper was
also there by his side. We'll cover Wimbledon off. She's sport.
How good's Boden Barrett? How good is Bowden Barrett? And

(12:43):
although I'm not in the ficcionado like Razor, if he
can be that good for fifteen twenty minutes, why wouldn't
you put him on for the whole eighty and let
him be that good for the entire game. You know
what I'm saying since twenty five.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Trending now between chemist Warehouse the home of big brand, fate.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Amens support barring penalties. Before we're over this morning, we
should know if football's finally come home. Can something come
home that's never been there? It can't really come home
if you've never won it. It can't really come home,
can it because it never left home? Because it's home
was never were you are which is Britain anyway, It's
England v Spain kickoff at seven. UK Salibs have sent

(13:21):
their messages to the team, including Cheer and Kate Beckinsal
Sam Smith, Moferrr, Johnny Vegas.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
I just really feel that everything is coming together at
the right point and I can't wait Sunday.

Speaker 11 (13:32):
It's coming home and good luck that, Oh Gareth.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Who are well?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Then Hello be thy king, Thy time has come, Thy
final will be one in normal time. Thats Exeter.

Speaker 12 (13:44):
I agree with you, mister Allen Shard comdy Sunday.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I believe England can go all the way.

Speaker 11 (13:50):
Good luck guys, I'm sending you love's coming home.

Speaker 13 (13:53):
Always were behind you, believe in yourself and just enjoy
it and thank you for giving us great memories.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Our England team have done us so so proud and
it's so lovely to fill all the nation get together
and get behind the.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Boys having a son on that part of the world
they do. There's nothing stops Britain like a top level
football game, and they will be literally stopped as of
Thank god it's Sunday night. No one will be going
to work tomorrow morning. Of course, if they win. Knighthood's
all round for Southgate. The suspicion is at Southgate's final game.
So Martin Tyler, there is no one more famous than
the world of football in terms of commentary than Martin Tyler.

(14:26):
He is in Germany. He's not working anymore, but he's
there as a fan. So we'll catch up with him
in Germany and a couple of minutes time. As regards
the United States, Richard Arnland for you very shortly, and
then we'll get some more inside after seven o'clock from
none other than Nick Bryant, who happens to be in Britain.
But we'll be with us. No one's covered America more
in depth over the last twenty years an hour old mate,
Nick Bryant, so we'll take us. The big question, apart

(14:48):
from the shooter obviously and how he got so close,
the big question going forward is what do they do
about security and how do they fix that particular problem.
Nick Bright After seven thirty this morning Meantime News.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
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Speaker 3 (15:09):
Mike, so please you like Djokovic. I do too. I
thought I might have been the only one currently in
the South of France listening to you on iHeart Suzanne.
I'm glad you're enjoying the show, and I'm I hope
you're enjoying the South of France, very warm in that
particular part of the world, and a lot of people
in Europe at the moment. Mike, I'm sure you're aware
that the Cup came home to England in nineteen sixty six. Day,
well aware, but that's the World Cup, not the Euros.
They're two completely different things and the Euros have never

(15:29):
been home anywhere close to England. But we wish them
well this morning, obviously, Mike. The RB boss, Christian Horner
wants to replace Udio Perez with Daniel Riccardo. Yes he does.
And Lim did a test a couple of days ago
last week Friday, our time, and there are mixed reports
on how that went. And the talk is that either
is going to end up in RB or is going
to end up next to the stap And if he

(15:50):
ends up to STAP and I'll be exceedingly surprised. But
the Ricardo story continues to unfold. It's a fascinating time.
Two more Grand Prixs and then they have the summer
break in the sense is that all of this will
be sorted out in those next couple of weeks twenty
two to seven, but general slopsid obviously in a couple
of moments meantime, here's a voice you'll recognize.

Speaker 14 (16:11):
Yes for England, David Beckham has done it big time.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yes, Martin Tyler on the stands today it's Spain take
on England at the Euro Finals in Germany. Martin Tyler,
willis morning.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
And a good evening from Berlin.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Not far to go. How you're feeling. You're full of vermin,
vigor and excitement and expectation.

Speaker 15 (16:36):
All of those things, but mostly because it's a really
important football match.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
My whole life has been spent.

Speaker 15 (16:43):
I've been blessed to be able to come to these
games and be part of them, and clearly it's slightly different.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
When your own country is involved.

Speaker 15 (16:52):
But it's the game that I really care about and
I hope the final lives up to the potential it certainly,
and Spain have been terrific and England have got better
and have match winners. So I think it's a tough
one to call, and obviously as a professional, I want
the better team to win.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
As an Englishman, you know my answer.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Scree of it all that we all know how important
does a victory today? What would it mean to England?

Speaker 15 (17:19):
I think a defeat would mean a real crashing setback
because we've started to build a team that's come very close,
as you know, runners up on a penalty shootout back
and three years ago the euro delayed Euro twenty twenty,
you know, getting to a World Cup semi final and
coming so close to getting into the final, missing a

(17:40):
penalty in the last World Cup when England looked like
they might actually get the better of the team that
went on to get to the final, France. So I
think in the end it might be one defeat too many,
I think it would be a crushing blow. But you know,
the nation's really got behind England as they've improved as
the tournament's gone on, and there was a lot of
surely there was a lot of nitpicking in the early games,

(18:03):
but the one thing one knit they couldn't pick was
the word wi n and kept on producing progress And
here they are underdogs, which will suit the English mentality
and hopefully ready for a challenge that will It sounds
a bit of an exaggeration, but having spent most of
my life was sort of worshiping the boys of sixty six,

(18:24):
the World Cup winners, who still remain the only teams
have won a major tournament for England, they would make
themselves pretty immortal, certainly in sporting terms, if they can
get the result.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Here explain the Southgate factor? Why do we love them?
Why do we hate them? Why is he such a thing?

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Well?

Speaker 15 (18:42):
Personally, yeah, he's a top bloke and I've known him
a long time since he was a young player, so
there is you're talking about professionally who were professionally. He's
hugely admired for what he's done for English football that
he took over in a bit of a mess when
the previous man was demoted in truth, some allodise after

(19:04):
just one game. It was an off the field incident
and it was very tough then, and Garrison.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Worlded it all together.

Speaker 15 (19:12):
He's produced results, He's produced a very good behavior from
the players. The national team is now loved by the country,
which there were times when it wasn't where it was
seen as a group of underachievers. So he's pulled everything
together but the silverware, and this might be his last game,
you know, either way, it might be his last game.

(19:33):
And I think probably only when he's left the post,
people will realized what a wonderful job he's done.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
It's very competitive world football. And I know this isn't
the World Cup, but.

Speaker 15 (19:45):
The European nations the dominant force in the world game.
And some South American listeners won't like me say that,
but the by lives they are. And I do think
that it's time for fifty eight years a long time.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
But it's one game.

Speaker 15 (20:00):
We can talk about all the build up, all the history,
because the truth of the matter is it's one game
which starts in a couple of hours time, and it's
what happens here on the night in a stadium incidenta
where England have never lost.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
I don't know whether that's an omen or not.

Speaker 15 (20:15):
Spain, of course, I've had a wonderful run of wins
in the tournament, a better progress than finally we say
in England. But it starts again and it's about temperament
as well as talent, and we'll see, we'll see. It's
got to be decided on the field. I hope it
doesn't go to penalties. That's always a little bit of
thorn in the side of England, though they've won a

(20:36):
penalty shooter in this tournament and are much better at it,
much more practiced at it. But the country wants to win,
but really wants to win where they're not a manature
they see they have been for most of the knockout.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Game in the loss of Martin.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
You enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Kickoffs not far away, Martin Tyler, one of the great
so former Sky Sports UK commentation kickoff at seven o'clock.
Of course, eighteen to two.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
The Mike Costing Breakfitt just.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
On that poll I alluded to before for kias stam
of forty percent, saying they had a favorable view six
points higher than last week. Unfavorable views gone from forty
one down to thirty three, so has net favorability writing
plus seven. Never underestimate the power of being prime minister
winning an election. Everyone loves you all of a sudden.
Net favorability plus seven compared with minus thirteen. So that's
quite the turnaround, isn't it.

Speaker 16 (21:20):
Six forty five International correspondence with ends at eye Insurance,
peace of mind for New Zealand business with.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Denial morning, What do you? Mike trans just tweeted out
looking forward to speaking to our great nation at the RNC.
So presumably we don't hear from him again until later
on the week.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (21:37):
I think at previous Republican conventions he would make appearances,
which is not the usual way these things go. But
Trump is very communication savvy, so we'll see how this plays.
But he is telling associates privately today that he's doing
well right now despite his ear being grazed by That
would be assassin's bullet, says Republican Senator Tom Cotton, who
spoke with Trump a short time ago.

Speaker 17 (21:58):
He's doing well, He's in good spirit.

Speaker 12 (22:00):
President Biden spoke with Trump last night in what was
described as a respectful brief telephone call. Three rally goers
were shot. As you know, one man was killed and
two others still are in critical condition. The twity year
old shooter, Thomas Matthew Crooks, was shot dead by the
Secret Service moments after he unleashed those six to eight
bullets from an AR fifteen style rifle. And most everyone

(22:21):
will have seen the video of the shooting.

Speaker 11 (22:24):
Take a look at what happened.

Speaker 12 (22:30):
Which shows Secret Service agents then putting their lives on
the line as they took Donald Trump off the stage
after his ear was bloodied by the bullet, his face
was spatted, and he pumped the air with his fish,
shouting fight, Fight, Fight. There were also heroics from Corey
compre Torre, the Pennsylvania firefighter who was shot dead. Says
the state's Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro.

Speaker 9 (22:53):
Corey died a hero. Cory dove on his family to
protect them last night.

Speaker 12 (23:01):
So the whole situation is shocking, but is it surprising.
There are serious questions about the security perimeter that was
in place and about access to the rooftop of an
adjacent building. One person saw the shooter scramble to the
roof of this place right alongside the rally and well
within range of the semi automatic rifle the shooter was
carrying with him, and there's rally goer says that Crooks

(23:21):
was up there for several minutes as this crowd member
tried to get police to react.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Like hey man, the guy in the roof for the gravel,
and the police.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Are like, oh what you know?

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Like did you know what's going on? You know, We're like, hey,
right here on the roof, we can see him from
right here. You see him, He's crawling And.

Speaker 17 (23:42):
Next thing you know, I'm like, I'm thinking myself, I'm like,
why is Trump still speaking?

Speaker 12 (23:45):
So several minutes of this, we now find that this
twenty year old shooter had an AAR fifteen style weapon
that appears his father had purchased legally. These, of course,
are the weapons that former President Clinton banned back in
ninety four, but former President George W. Bush back on
ten years on. Biden has sought to ban them again,
not effectively. These are the weapons used in seemingly endless

(24:06):
shooting massacres from Stockton to Sandy Hawk to the Las
Vegas massacre, where eurical more than one hundred rounds were
fired from a hotel room across from a music concert.
Sixty people killed, at least four hundred and thirteen others wounded.
A bump stock was used to turn that rifle into
a virtual automatic. Trump banned those bumpstocks, then just the
other day, the conservative majority Supreme Court allowed them to

(24:26):
go back on sale. Thanks a lot in the Trump
crowd last night. Another rally goer says this later shooting
easily could have led to Trump's assassination. He had not
moved his head at that neck of time, it could
have been a lot. So that's the close up view.

Speaker 18 (24:41):
Again.

Speaker 12 (24:41):
Shocking, but is it surprising? There have been many reactions,
starting with Biden calling the shooting sick and then pledging
a full and open investigation in comments a short time ago.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
I urge everyone, everyone, please don't make assumptions about his
motives or's' affiliations.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
Let the FBI do their job.

Speaker 12 (25:00):
This to three of the Trump vice presidential wannabes who
blamed the Biden campaign within minutes of the shooting. Mind
you said, jd Vance, the Biden campaign reetric quote led
directly to President Trump's attempted assassination end quote. Well we
didn't even know the shooter was at that point and
still do not know the motive except that he was
a lone acute at high school. Biden also said there

(25:21):
is no place for political violence in the United States.
So that's an encouraging hope. But look at the history.
Twenty eleven, Democratic congress Member Gabby Giffords shot in the
head while campaigning. Twenty seventeen, Republican Steve's Calise nearly killed
when shot while playing in a congressional baseball game.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Charlottesville.

Speaker 12 (25:37):
Twenty seventeen, one person killed, as then President Trump said
they were very fine people on both sides. Twenty twenty one,
multiple people died during violence at the US Capitol. So
this week Republicans gathered for their big presidential convention starting
tomorrow in Milwaukee, where we can expect most every speaker
to address these issues. Late in August, Democrats will do

(25:57):
the same. We can see right now that politicking aside
those questions are key to America's future.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Exactly good one. We'll see Wednesday. Mate Richard Arnold stateside
and Nick Bryant with us after seven thirty this morning.
If you want a little bit of history, for presidents
have been in fact killed in office, Abraham Lincoln, of course,
James Garfield in eighteen eighty one, McKinley ninety oh one,
Kennedy of course in sixty three, Roosevelt. Former President. Roosevelt
and Reagan were both injured in attempt at assassinations, Roosevelt

(26:24):
in nineteen twelve and Reagan of course in nineteen eighty one.
He mentioned Scalise, But Robert F. Kennedy shot by Sahan.
Sahan of course, back in sixty eight. And George Wallace,
Alabama governor, was shot while campaigning to become the Democratic
nominee in nineteen seventy two. So we have been here before.
Nine Away from seven.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Comb Mike Costle, Breakfast with a Veda retirement, Communities News
tog SEDV.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
You don't hear from more often, but a very powerful
statement from Milania Trump, and she called for the country
to look beyond the left and the right, beyond the
red and the blue, and rise above the hate and
viti triol that was tearing America apart. A monster who
recognized my husband as an inhumane political machine, attempted to
wring out Donald's passion, his laughter, ingenuity, love of music,

(27:11):
and inspiration. The facets of my husband's life as human
side were buried below the political machine. Donald, the generous
and caring man who I have been with through the
best and worst of times. This morning ascend above the hate,
the vitriol, and the simple minded ideas that ignite violence.
Eloquent if nothing else. Five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Pal the ins are the outs.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
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to the next level.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Now I got the UBS Global Wealth Reports highlighting a
trend you're going to be hearing a lot more about
in the ensuing years. It's called the horizontal wealth transfer.
It's going on at the moment globally, there are around
one hundred and thirty seven trillion dollars that are going
to be transferred are to charity or family members from
baby boomers and older generations only the next twenty to
thirty years. So the large majority of that is coming
from the Americas round forty three million people over the

(28:03):
age of seventy five with a combined transferable wealth of
almost eighty two trillion dollars. So the average age of
someone passing all this money on is eighty five. Gen
X millennials and Gen z's they're expected to get the
bulk of it all. But until then women women are
the big beneficiaries here because women live longer, and up
to fifteen trillion New Zealand dollars is going to be
passed into general intergenerationally from one spouse to another. So

(28:27):
the current rate of eleven percent of all millionaires being women,
that's expected to increase drastically as the old husband drops
off and the missus is still going very nicely, thank
you are, the money's going her way. There's also a
McKinsey report that estimates that women are expected to control
most of the fifty trillion in Baby boom of wealth
by twenty thirty, which puts women center stage in terms
of wealth management. So the times of the world changing.

(28:50):
Now we'll talk very shortly some more on the Trump situation,
the security mania security run pad that the big question
has had to get on the roof. How despite the
fact that people seemingly so I'm getting on the roof
and they were yelling at the police to do something
about it, the FBI, the Secret Service didn't seem to
do anything about it until it was too late, obviously,
So there's that question. Then the other big question is
what do you do going forward? I mean, how many

(29:11):
fields do you want to stand in between now and November?
How big is the perimeter? And watching one of the
press conferences yesterday, the question was obviously usked and they
said the building was beyond the perimeter. Well what's a perimeter?
Who sets it? And they're going to have to set
it completely differently? Are you going to watch these guys
now for the next six months or so? Literally behind screens?
You remember when Obama used to speak Grant Park, Chicago

(29:32):
when he got elected. On that night, the big screen
started turning up and you couldn't get you know, you
could see him, but he was behind security. So I
think there's probably some more of that coming our way
anyway that in the next half hour. Nick Bryant after
seven point thirty this morning, and then the commentary box,
what a weekend it has been, Guy Held and Andrew
Savill do the sport for us as.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Well, demanding the answers from the decision makers, the mic
asking breakfast with Jaguar, the Art of Performance News togs had.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Been past seven, so little after ten o'clock Sunday morning,
New Zealand time, look at what happened, and by the
end of yesterday they had confirmed it was a twenty
year old Thomas Matthew Crooks. He and a male bystander
both died at the rally. So where does security and
the investigation go from here? Gilbundola is a former Marine

(30:20):
senior fellu at Defense Priorities in Washington, d C. And
is with us. Good morning to you.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Good morning.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
The big well, the big question seems to be, how
does a person with a gun on a roof get
that close to a presidential candidate? Do we have any
obvious answers?

Speaker 18 (30:34):
Yeah, I I don't think we have any obvious answers yet.
I mean, that's that is the big question, above all
the you know, the downstream political impacts and everything else
people are speculating and talking about. But yeah, it seems
pretty clear that the shooter got, you know, four hundred
feet one hundred and fifty meters or so away from
from the stage to take a shot at the former president.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
We are lucky he's not. Did Is that a fair assessment?

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (30:58):
Absolutely, I Mean it's that's you know, it's it's not
the easiest thing in the world to shoot someone of
the ahead of that distance to put this in the
in the starkest terms. But but absolutely it looks like
one bullet missed him. It's not clear. It sounds like
he was hit, you know, uh from President Trump was
hitting the ear by glass. But he's he said, the
bullet clipped his ear and obviously U you know, another

(31:22):
another guy attending the rally was killed and two people wounded.
So it was extremely close.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
For on thing, how do they work out how much security?
Is there a standard mechanism in place, it's x yards
or meters and that's what they do each and every time,
or does it very wildly depending on where you are.

Speaker 18 (31:40):
I don't want to speculate too much. You know, I'm
not I'm not in the Secret Service obviously and haven't
haven't served with them. But but usually, you know, at
risk analysis is going to depend upon to some extent
upon the you know, the temperature, and threats, specific threats
and things like that if you have them. But generally
you're you're working off what you have to work with
in terms of terrain in the ground to a an extent,

(32:00):
in the size of the crowd. Right, So, but it
does seem strange if not inexcusable. You know, adds another
information that that there was a shooter on the rooftop
of a building, as I said, you know, just four
hundred feet away from the stage. That that seems crazy
on the face of it. Reporting is that there were
Secret Service snipers on another building closer to the stage,

(32:21):
but not that one itself, which is which again is
from what we know now, is kind of mind blowing.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Would you expect security to obviously overtly change between now
and novema.

Speaker 18 (32:32):
You you would think so with that, But there are
you know, there are constraints at the end of the day,
just like there are in any kind of security or surveillance.
There are only only so many people. And you know,
you can you can put on something like this, you
know you're not going to I doubt, I highly doubt.
You know, Foreign President Trump is going to stop doing
big rallies and got the Republican Convention coming up in

(32:54):
Milwaukee in a couple of days, and I think that
is going to proceed. I'm sure there'll be a height
and security, but I don't think that's going to be
a fundamentally different events. My suspicion and obviously.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Sorry, what do you, what do you do about about
a loan route? This guy Thomas Crooks, we we know
next to nothing of them, apart from the fact he
was register Republican, donated to the Democrats and no criminal record.
How do you stop alone?

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Wolf Right?

Speaker 18 (33:19):
I mean, I think you you put in the best
physical security you can and you and you remain very alert.
And there's obviously we have a lot more you know,
signals surveillance and things like that, and ways to kind
of disrupt threats to the FBI obviously does a lot
of that online in terms of and we use those
You hate to say that the kind of the war
came home, but some of those things are techniques that

(33:41):
were home throughout twenty years of war on terrorism. But
we obviously have a different set of civil liberties, uh,
you know, laws and and and things we allow inside
inside the United States and American citizens. It's not the
same way we treat, you know, potential foreign attackers.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Bill appreciate your expertise very much, and we'll catch up
again seeing gilbou Dollar, who's the former Marine senior fellow
at Defense Priorities in Washington. Eleven past seven task getting
back home. We've got migrant trouble to some degree in
our schools. Last year, twenty two thousand school age migrants
arrived in the country, which is allegedly now pushing the
schools and the staffing to their limits. The Ministry of
Education building new classrooms, but they're not coming quickly enough.

(34:17):
The Secondary Principal's Association president, as One Koya, who is
with us, born very good morning to you. Do you
have any suggestion that maybe this is going to get
sort of because the numbers flooded into the country. Now
those numbers start to tail off and you will eventually
see that, won't you.

Speaker 19 (34:36):
Yeah, absolutely, And most of those migrants land and main centers.
It doesn't spread evenly across the country. So in the
conversations that I think with local rescript education, they know
where the problem is and they're trying to get as
many temporary classrooms, you know, those prefames that you may
have seen around schools built as quickly as possible and
on site and ready for February.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Are you guys in the link to the criteria, In
other words, when the government set the rules as to
who can come in, did the schools get involved in
any stage saying we're letting these people and they bring
in two kids, and this is what you can expect.

Speaker 19 (35:08):
Well, the schools aren't. No, not at all. One assumes
that Immigration are communicating with the network planning team from
the ministry. But that's sort of above my grade pay grade,
to be honest.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Right, and so should they be more involved? In other words,
do you have any clue as to who's coming in
numbers or none whatsoever?

Speaker 19 (35:27):
Historically I haven't had much faith in the predictive numbers
that you get sort of around this time of the year.
We get a predicted number of students for the following year,
and in my school's example, the predicted final number was
sixteen oh four. For this year we've ended up at

(35:47):
significantly higher than that, closer to seventeen hundred. And when
you're thinking twenty five kids as a teacher, there about
rough gauge. That's quite a way out. So there's something
that isn't talking between Immigration and the network team or
whoever it may be. Where the accurate dart This isn't
getting me.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
And how much pressure you under when these kids suddenly
turn up and it's day one and you need teachers
and classrooms, what do.

Speaker 19 (36:09):
You do it varies from suburb to suburb to be fair,
but places like Ormiston where there's not only a new
and developing community, although that's where migrants seem to be going,
you do things like take the books out of your library,
stick them on a trolley and wheel them around your school.
One of my local schools doing that, and so the
library becomes classrooms. Halls get chopped up into teaching spaces,

(36:33):
so you don't have an assembly hall anymore. You have
six or seven classrooms in it, whatever the size of
your hall allows you. In one case, you have a
math class under a stairwell because it's a big enough
vacant space. So you either take up the spaces that
are good for learning in other parts of the school,
or you make your class sizes bigger, or cancel things,

(36:55):
or have non specialists in front of students where you've
grabbed a Leberan to cover for a class and you're
not giving them the best deal necessarily. So it's a
challenging space for sure.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Good insight, Vaughn as I always appreciate it. Won Koya,
who's the Secondary Principals Association. Back to what Trump by
the way, after seven thirty with Nick Bryant will come
back on coying or changes are coming, Thank the good Lord.
The Housing Minister with us in a moment fourteen passed
the Mike hosting racist Yes commentary box up to eight
o'clous this morning. Sconey Max had a fantastic weekend. Among
many other things to talk about. Not to mention the

(37:26):
all blacks, of course, seventeen past seven, So new approach
to kayeg or A tenants who cause trouble famously under
the previous Labor government. Of of course, despite all the stories,
only eight people ever got evicted so far under the
new government. We've got fourteen gone and three months and
twenty five others are apparently about to get sent packing.
The Housing Minister Chris Bishop back with us. Chris, morning
to you, good morning. Are the people you booted out

(37:47):
under your rum regime the sort of people who should
have gone under the old regime.

Speaker 13 (37:53):
Well, there's no doubt about that. We've asked play all
order to take a time for approach to a really
anti social tenant and the powers that are available to
them under the Residential Tendencies Act in the same way
they're available for any other land order. And I think
you're own listening. We've seen and heard the stories over
the last few years of kind of or attendants causing
mayhem in communities, and you know, we said enough as enough. Basically,

(38:16):
the last government of a soft touched approach, it was
basically impossible to get kicked out of a crime or
a property. We've said, no, there need to be consequences.
At the end of the day, we want to keep
you in your tendency, but if you willfully and persistently
breach the rights of your neighbors and the rights of
the community.

Speaker 17 (38:34):
You've got to go.

Speaker 13 (38:36):
And so we've had fourteen in the last three months,
just eight last year of free twenty three. So file
Order is responding to the ministerial direction.

Speaker 17 (38:45):
That's because it sort.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Of answers my question, has anything materially changed, criteria actually changed,
or have you just said can you please do what
you're supposed to be doing.

Speaker 13 (38:54):
Yeah, we wrote to them and back in March and
said you've got to replace what's called the sustaining Tendencies frame,
which was the previous government's rule that basically said, I mean,
theoretically you could get kicked up, but basically no one
ever did. They just you know, there were never any
really hard consequences of people who persistently breached the rules,

(39:15):
and we said, you've got to replace that and take
a tougher approach and use the use the tools available
to you through the residential tendencies at And they're now
starting to do that. There's essentially a three strikes regime
through the law. You know, you can issue issue strikes
for behavior and kind of Orror is doing that much
more regularly now as well, And that's good thing.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
And what about all the people who sit there and
go and where will they go? I mean, where do
they go? And does anyone care?

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Well?

Speaker 13 (39:40):
They get referred to other housing providers, some will end
up in the private rental market, some will move in
with friends and family. But I just bought this to you.
There are twenty three thousand people or families on the
waitlist for social housing. It's around two thousand families living
in emergency housing motels. One of the cruelest things over
the last few years is I would literally be contacted

(40:01):
by people when we're in opposition who are living in
motels or sleeping in other circumstances, and they would say
to me, excuse me, I need a house. I'm willing
to look after the house. And there are these guys
down the road who I happen to know in some
cases who are causing absolute mayhem for their neighbors.

Speaker 17 (40:22):
And you know, what gives?

Speaker 13 (40:24):
What are they here the house when I don't when
I look after it and these other guys won't. And
so I literally had emails from people in social housing
saying exactly that, and so you just go, well, at
some level there has to be consequences, and of course
once there are consequences, people start to change their behavior.
And we're starting to see that, which is a good.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Fun exactly good to catch. Uppreciated very much, Chris Bishop
of the Housing Minister Darlene Tanah dear an update shortly
seven breakfast twenty two minutes and it's still in the
all seven twenty thirty. By the way, A quick question
for you, why well, I mean, where are the questions
you have? You asked yourself the question about questions? Where

(41:00):
are the questions around Darlen Tana. Where's the pressure on
the greens, where's the heat on the greens to actually
do something? It was over a week ago now the
report was announced as having been received. You will note
it's still not out. I doubt it ever will be.
You will note allegedly the Greens cannot get in contact
with one of their own MPs. Just how long do
we wait before it becomes absurd? Actually, correction, it already

(41:21):
has become absurd. Who now is the biggest skull duggerus,
actor Tana or the Greens themselves? We suggested, many, many,
many a time on the program as we waited, waited,
waited and waited for the report. You can't take that long,
cost that much money. Oh that's the other thing. What's
the bill? The final bill? Ask anyone? Anyone asked the question?
Didn't see it? Why not? I'll come back to that anyway.

(41:42):
You can't wait that long without something badly amiss. And
so we called that one right. Also, no one seems
to have raised the issue of candidate selection, another body
blow for the Greens. How is it the poor old Chloe,
as I watched on from holiday last week, can be
so surprised and hurt and let down by yet another
Green that doesn't seem to be what she claims she
was on the tin? How is it all these highly

(42:05):
unusual people get through the vetting systemony to end up
being troubled. Does anyone ask any questions or probe in
any way, shape or form, and the Greens at all.
Next problem, the waker jumping The Greens hate it. Why
what logic is there? And having an embarrassment of an
MP who shames the party that got her into the
job in the first place and then has the right
to simply sit there and have nothing done to her

(42:27):
while she is on full pay. Why would the Greens
support that? And when a solution the waker jumping laws
put forward they don't like it. What's not to like?
The very Factana isn't hiding and collecting all the money
while doing no work in embarrassing her former party actually
shows you what sort of operator she is. It speaks
to her personally. The fact we don't have the report

(42:47):
paid for in part by us shows you what sort
of operators the Greens are. They can't pick talent, they
can't make a decision, They show no urgency, They have
seemingly an unending ability to soak up embarrassment. They are
political rebel. Just how long are we prepared for the fast.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
To roll on pasking?

Speaker 3 (43:04):
And then the only person who asked about the money
was us, So the party says this. The party has
obligations to report our financial statements to members and the
Electoral Commission subsequent to the end of the financial year,
which will outline expenditures such as this. At this time,
while working through the consequences and the details and the
investigation with our members, we are not in a position
to disclose any further information on costings. They're so full

(43:26):
of it, aren't they every intent? Clai aren't were transparent,
We're straight up and down. They're no better than the
rest of them. Mike, do you think it was a
coincidence that the Green's finally released the investigation while you're
on Holo? Course it wasn't. Everybody knows that, I mean
Friday afternoon, I mean, just but where are the questions?
Where's the urgency? It seems in this country now that
what happens is you're able to say something and then

(43:47):
that's sort of the end of it. Doesn't not strike
you that the fact they've literally not got hold of
this woman for inexcess of a week. We're going to
have to ring them like we did over the report,
every single day, every day instead of ringing about the report,
say you got darling, where's Darlene? Has Darlene run back?
How long does that go? First sacking that we know
of as a result of the shooting yesterday, Jacquiline Marsaw. No,

(44:09):
you've never heard of her. But she was a staffer
at Benny Thompson's office. He's a republic he's a representative,
Democratic representative. Benny Thompson no longer working in the office
after she tweeted out, I don't condone violence, but please
get some shooting lessons so you don't miss next time. Oops,
that wasn't me talking. You cannot overstate the level of

(44:31):
stupidity with some people, can you? And this is the
great debate aroun social media. If you literally dredge the
bottom of the barrel, the bottom of the barrel are
basically the people you're going to find there. So anyway,
she's out of work, Nick Bright, So what do we
make of this going forward? What's it mean in historical context?
What's it means for the campaign in terms of security?

(44:52):
And going forward? Is Trump Noah Marta? Did he win
essentially the election yesterday by reacting the way he did?
Is it for Joe Biden? And of course. The other
thing about yesterday is it got Joe Biden off the
other front page of the paper for a while. Nick Bryant,
after the.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
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Speaker 3 (45:20):
Hi, Mike, all those issues you outline with the Greens,
and yet they still have a consistent thirteen percent support.
I think the polet came out right. I had them
on twelve. But I take your point, Nick, it's like
the Murray Party one or two percent support, but they
don't care. I mean, you've got rusted on support, as
they say, and they like them for what they are,
whatever that may be, and it is what it is. Mike,
the rammitches morning, Mike, who cares where these feral tenants

(45:43):
end up? Good riddance a little bit of it that
about the place, Mike, Apart from Zidby, who else in
the media actually asks hard questions about the Greens when
the likes of the National Party, I summed up ntil
got slammed for something again, so it goes it's the
media is a problem in this country at the moment. Morning, Mike,
I hope you enjoyed a welders break. Did you see
Q and A the interview with Debbi from the Mary
Party yesterday morning?

Speaker 5 (46:03):
No?

Speaker 3 (46:03):
I didn't, and I'll tell you why I didn't, because
I was watching CNN and Fox, and I saw the
whole thing live literally unfold because I happened to be
on Fox and was watching the rally, and then I
flicked over to see an end to see if they
were carrying the rally. The BBC wasn't carrying the rally.
Why would they. It was just a regular, ordinary every
day rally, So I flicked over to see an end
to see whether it because I'm always interested to see
how they cover these things. So it was an ordinary,

(46:25):
everyday Saturday run of the Bill type rally. So I
flick over to C and M and then they are
covering the rally and they leave the rally, so they
just sort of dip and then suddenly they leap. So
I thought, right, I'll go back to Fox. So I'm
watching Fox Live. Then it all unfolds. As soon as
it unfolds, I flick back to CNN, who have not
realized what's happened, and still han't gone back to it,

(46:47):
so it will be to their great regret. I would
imagine that they cut away, which then brings me to
and I wasn't gonna mention this until, of course, it
became news in Australia. Channel ten in Australia didn't cover
it for at least an hour, and that's being made
a big deal of this morning. The other networks, apparently,
certainly Sky, which I also went to yesterday, as in

(47:07):
Sky Australia, Sky dumped their programming, they got their breakfast
guy in and they ran a program for the day
and basically ran Fox coverage along with some local inputs.
So in other words, everyone dropped everything and they ran
for it. Ask yourself this question. Given the problems we have,
or have had, or do have in this country with
linear television, and some operators who claim to have a

(47:27):
new service, explain to me why they ignored it all
day yesterday. I think, and I'm open to correction, but
I think Television One got their act together by about
five to five seven hours after it happened. When you're
watching history unfold and you argue you provide a news service,
how is it you can ignore that for seven solid

(47:49):
hours and pretend nothing happened. So Channel tens taking it
in Australia. We'll talk to Steve about it later. They're
taking it Australia for being an hour late. Both of
our channels were seven, if not eight hours late twenty
one to eight. Comment andrews Ebil and Guy have eld
times eighty five this morning in the meantime. Of the
biggest questions out of all of us, of course, in Butler, Pennsylvania,

(48:12):
was how does a campaign go forward? How do they
handle security? We've got the Republican Convention this week in Milwaukee,
starts tomorrow where Trump will be formally nominated and confirmed
as a Republican Party candidate. Former BBC US correspondent now
old mate Nick Brand as well, there's morning mate. Hey Mike,
could you believe what you were seeing?

Speaker 6 (48:32):
To be honest, Mike, I thought initially it was a
deep fake. I was just falling asleep in Britain, which
is where I am now.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
It was late at night.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
I checked my phone literally minutes after the shooting happened,
and I saw that picture of Donald Trump with blood
streaking down his face, and I thought I was looking
at a meme and of course, pretty quickly afterwards, I
realized I was looking at one of the most extraordinary
moments in modern US history. You know, America is not

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unfamiliar with political violence. Indeed, it's been the continual thread
of American history, you know, going back to the early
days of the Republic. Andrew Jackson, Trump's great hero, the
populis hero that he seeses his presidential soul mat he
was came under an attack on Capitol Hill way back
in the eighteen thirties. But you know, and we've seen

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four American presidents obviously shot dead, but you know, we
haven't seen that in recent times. And it was extraordinary
and shocking to see though perhaps you know that phrase
that we've often used in the Trump era, shocking but
not entirely surprising.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, as gaulish as it may seem, Reagan's popularity went
up twenty two points post Who's shooting? Is Trump now
a martyr and has the game changed politically for him
in this race?

Speaker 6 (49:48):
I think it enables him to revel in two things
that he likes to revel him, which is a sense
of martyrdom and a sense of victimhood. Indeed, it's a
shared sense of victimhood, which I think explains much of
the visceral connection that he has with the mag of Faithful.
They were rusted on already, Mike. I think they were
going to turn out in droves to vote for Donald Trump.
I think what's interesting about this is it may impact

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Republican waiverers. It's very difficult now for a Republican lawmaker
or a Republican figure to be openly critical of a
man who has just survived an assassination attempt. Also, it
makes him seem more presidential because figures like Barack Obama
and Bill Clinton, and obviously Joe Biden have had to
come out and say this was a terrible event. He

(50:32):
for this moment is part.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Of their club, the President's club.

Speaker 6 (50:36):
He looks presidential again, even with the blood coming down
his face. So I do think it's a big plus
for Joe Biden, a big plus for Donald Trump at
a time, of course, when Joe Biden has been coming
figuratively at least, under so much friendly far from his
own side, and look very weak and frail, you know,
for Trumps supporters. He looked very strong and dynamic in

(50:56):
that moment as he shouted fight, Fight, Fight, literally second
after he'd been shot.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Yeah, the optics of that, I don't think you can
underestimate to be to go through what he did, to
get back up and to react the way he did
say something about him, whether you love him or not,
doesn't it.

Speaker 6 (51:14):
Yeah, And such shot of him with fifth rays blood
in his face, the American flag above his head is
instantly iconic.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
You know.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
Some have been describing it as an eogma moment. Some
have been likening it to George Washington's Crossing of the Delaware,
which became an incredibly famous sort of picture painting that
sort of echoed down the centrist Yeah, and it has
this sort of sense of religiosity around Trump, that he's
the chosen one, that somehow he's indestructible, that however many

(51:47):
times people come afterwards.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
He bounces back.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
And you know, there is this tradition in American politics
of strong presidents and strong former presidents being extremely popular
with the American people, and the converse is also true.
The frail and those perceived to be weak tend to
get punished. I'm thinking in recent times as Jimmy Carter,
I'm thinking in recent times, a Jewish worker Walker Bush
and of course, that is the criticism right now of

(52:12):
Joe Biden.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
And presumably then the convention this week in Milwaukee, when
he takes the stage to receive the nomination, he'll be
greeted as a hero.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Yeah, he will be.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
And I think one of the key points to make
about the convention. I mean, there are Republicans who have
serious misgivings about Donald Trump. There are many Republicans who
wanted Nicky Haley. There are many Republicans who are still
deeply uneasy about his authoritarian tendencies, and they have fears that,
you know, American democracy really isn't safe.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
If he is returned to the white hat.

Speaker 6 (52:44):
And it's going to be very difficult to make that
case in a voluble sense, to raise your voice against
Trump in this moment, given that the party has just
rallied round him, and this kind of cult that Trump
has kind of created ever since he came down that
golden escalator in twenty fifteen, it's become even stronger as
a result of this failed assassination attempt.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
What we were neck I appreciate it time very much.
What we were in a way, we didn't have confirmation
what we were waiting for yesterday was a possible announcement
around the VP. JD Varannce seems to be the favorite
along with Burgham. I cannot understand the rationale behind Burgham.
He doesn't even look normal and Trump doesn't look normal.
And say whatever you want and call me superficial, but
optics count, and you can't have two exceedingly abnormal people

(53:30):
looking people.

Speaker 11 (53:31):
I would have thought ring in America, there is a
jersey wearer like yourself.

Speaker 20 (53:35):
You'd appreciate somebody like Bergham, who's often seen in a
sleeveless fleece.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
There's nothing wrong with the sleeveless fleece or indeed a
jersey Glynn. But you got to back it up with
a bit of you know, I had a no brain
power in a normal looking face anyway, Be that as
it may. By the way, they'll go to halftime, almost
certainly it's forty four minutes gone. What are they adding
on to the first half? Nineteen minutes of stoppage time.

Speaker 11 (53:53):
There's been a few people rolling around on the ground,
it's for sure.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Oh there's another one another palm down, yellow cards or
around the place. We'll go to half all years two
he's pulling out a yellow cart on that one. Oh,
we'll go to halftime almost certainly nil all in the
euro seven forty five.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
The costume Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Twelve away from it. Just in referencing that poll is
a moment ago I did with the Greens on their
currently twelve percent. So the Careier poll came out Friday.
It's done for corporate clients, but always gets put out
publicly some way shape or for anyway. National up a
very good result for the government, the government coalition. I
mean Nationals up a couple of points and Labour's down
three and a half points. That's material. Green and Greens

(54:33):
in act are unchanged. New Zealand first is up significantly
one point seven points to seven and a half, and
to Party Marria down half a point. So all in
all are the government of sailing nicy. The gap between
the preferred Prime Minister and Hepkins now is major. Luckson's
up ten points. I mean, once again, I always say
the same thing. I don't know how much you read
into a single poll, but ten points is a lot,

(54:55):
as indeed as two point two points or down three
point five points for Labor. But Luckson's up ten as
preferred Prime Minister to thirty five percent. Hopkins is on nineteen,
so that's a major gap. So it might well be
that the the governmentor at last daying to get a
bit of traction, and they need to because boy, they
got some problems. New Zealand Tourism Recovery marooned was the
headline I read last week and I went, oh, hello,

(55:16):
welcome to the party who's been talking about the tourism
industry being stuck on this program for the last several years,
and finally everyone else has finally woken up to it.
New Zealand Tourism Recovery maroon So we got all the
immigration figures and everyone's still leaving for Australia in record numbers,
and we'll have to talk about that later on this week.
But you know, at last somebody else apart from me,
has woken up to the fact that eighty percent of

(55:37):
pre COVID as they stand in Barcelona with water pistols
squirting the tourists and telling them to go home. We're
still going at eighty percent. And the interviews we've done
on the program, we did one with a bloke in
Queenstown before I left on holiday last week and he
was going, oh no, we're doing recently well, we're fairly
happy with what's going on. How is it you're happy
with eighty percent? And when do we finally wake up

(55:59):
to the fact this isn't good enough and we need
a strategy to fix it.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Nine to eight The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Jaguar News.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Togs d b away from a bit of good retail
news for you. Back in April, the Wellington retail the Cranfields,
announced their closure. Thirty three years of trading in the capitol,
all set to end over the removal of those car
parks in the city. The Golden Mile gets to Wellington,
moving all that to Barkle Well. Apparently it's not over
till a tiber. Cranfield's owner, Nicola Cranfield, is with us.
Nicol a very good morning to you. Good morning make

(56:28):
are you are you Oh no, no, great pleasure. Are
you back? And if you're back in what form? Are
you back?

Speaker 21 (56:35):
We're currently operating online only and scouting around for new premises.
You're right, and.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
People have been fed back and gone, look, you can't
leave us in the loop.

Speaker 21 (56:47):
We were overwhelmed the response. It's just been phenomenal. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Indeed, So what do you think if you could find
a place, a physical presence bricks and water, you would
take it?

Speaker 21 (56:57):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Is it hard to find?

Speaker 21 (57:00):
It's quite elusive.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Yeah, because you want them, you'd want the area, presumably.

Speaker 21 (57:07):
I want the area and just good access and I
really need to work with a council that's I guess
not hostile to business in small business.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Well, you might have run into a small speed bump
in that particular department, many and many others in the
in the similar predicament. I mean, what's what's the issue
is how much of it's the economy versus how much
of it's a council and the rules and the Golden
Mile and parking and all that stuff.

Speaker 21 (57:31):
Look, it's really all about wanting to work with council
and even central government. We've just the last seven years
it just feels like the policy after policy has been
really anti business sentiment. So I've just I'm just quite exhausted,
I guess, And so I'm looking around. It might not

(57:52):
be Wellington. I've had a conversation with Hastings Council and
I was curious to know whether they're about to wrap
up all their streets and removed parking and bring in
a lot of cones. And fortunately they laughed and said no,
why would we do that to our retailers, So that
was heartening.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Those are the sort of things you don't really think
about when you've been around a business a long time.
Like you, it's sort of that future. What are they
going to do? How are they going to do it?
You know, you don't see it coming, do you? And
then suddenly the ideology takes over and then it's.

Speaker 21 (58:21):
All on exactly. You're quite vulnerable, but I've learned that,
and I guess that was why I was reluctant to
sign another lease and my current premises, because when you
sign a commercially that's a personal guarantee and your house
is on the line. You're pretty exposed and you can
control only so much. I can control what I buy
and I can do my promotions. But if all of

(58:44):
a sudden, all your access is removed and there's a
sea of cones outside your store and there's chaos and
there's noise, then that people are just not going to
visit us exactly.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Well, I wish you all the very Bestiam will stay
in touch and see where you end up. So Hastings
could be coming to your place. Cranfield's wonderful operator has
been for years. Nicola Cranfield, the owner of Cranfield's are
halftime in the Euro's no score, so we look forward
to the next forty five minutes. I suppose to him anyway,
I will ask him Andrew and Guy what how the
ratings have gone, because TVs plus are running this particular

(59:16):
to whether it's been a major spike in sport. How
interested in the Euros we are? The All Blacks were
wonderful and wasn't it fantastic to start the season against
England against somebody different? And what opponents they were? All
the sport after the News, which is next?

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
The Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Veta, Retirement, Communities, Life
your Way, News Talk, sa'd be.

Speaker 22 (59:43):
Sprung Us and the Old Blacks four seventeen.

Speaker 11 (59:56):
I dropped out a clitus at eight and five.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
Bobby Sketch All the Way.

Speaker 11 (01:00:04):
Step out as winners against.

Speaker 13 (01:00:07):
Wild Well, the final whistle players in Ireland of tennants.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
They have got their second win on South African soil.
The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
And guy have eld with us on this Monday morning.
By the way, the Spanish have literally just scored such
one mill a couple of minutes into the first.

Speaker 23 (01:00:28):
Half fellas good morning, almost almost almost two nils. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
do you know Andrew, By the way, what are the
numbers for this this euros that you guys are running,
people watching it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
What would you get for a you know, one of
the bigger matches.

Speaker 14 (01:00:44):
I'm I'm not one hundred percent short particular numbers, but
I know that England games have raped the socks off
and I'd say hundreds of thousands of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Viewers, right, So it's been a success. But a couple
English games then maybe not.

Speaker 14 (01:00:59):
Oh yeah, some other games might have done okay, but
I think in particular English games have done well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Bowden Barrett, guy, explain, explain to me why given him
so good, why don't you put him on for the
whole game?

Speaker 24 (01:01:16):
It's a it's a very good question. I think pet
Fetter had played very well in Super Rugby, that he
probably deserved a crack first of all, and then played
very well. Oh they just outscored and then played very
well in that first down and so I probably deserved
to crack again, but then voted. Parrott came on and
need it and was very good. And then we saw

(01:01:36):
what he did on Saturday night that was arguably the
best off the bench performance, particularly that I've seen from
an All Black for ever some time. That he changed
the game. Don't he single handedly changed the game. He
was immense everywhere, attack, defense, tactically, he was just brilliant.
And they needed a play like that because for a

(01:01:58):
while I felt like it like the All Blacks are
going to lose.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
And last time we took.

Speaker 14 (01:02:02):
And I think that I think the new coach has
made a determination early on that Damian McKenzie is there
starting ten, and that Stephen Perefeta until Will Jordan comes
back in a few weeks. He was there starting fifteen
in those in the two big English Test matches, and
Bowden barrowed off the bench. He started his career off
the bench and was outstanding then. So I think we'll

(01:02:24):
see more of them off the bench, unless there's a
change of thinking, say in some of those bigger games
against South Africa later in the year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
But right a couple of weeks ago, when we talked
about this Andrew I said, isn't it good to start
the season with something a bit different? And how how
good were the poems?

Speaker 14 (01:02:40):
They were fantastic Mike on and off the field. They're
very very easy to deal with, very entertaining chaps. On
the field, I thought they played some outstanding test match
football that rush defense, suffocating defense. They played very well
at the breakdown. They stifled a lot of the All
Blacks attack. They slowed a game down to try to

(01:03:01):
try and play it at their own pace, which is
an issue I think still for World rugby and for
referees and that some of these teams, likes of Africa
and England. They had a number of injuries during both
test matches. It didn't appear to be serious, but it
slowed the pace of the game down if you get
away with it. Good on them, but I thought no.
I thought they played and added into that mic they're

(01:03:23):
now playing an attacking style of football at times too,
which they're now finding the younger players who can do
that for the All Blacks new coaching staff. But there
were a lot of experienced test match footballers in that
All Black team in two matches, and I think there
have to be concerns about how they played the game. Yes,

(01:03:45):
two wins, but a lot of errors from a lot
of experienced rugby players in that All Black team, the
All Blacks, and they also need to find some new,
bigger ball runners in their forwards.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Guy, I cannot, for the life of me get excited
about San Diego. They told me a couple of weeks
ago it was sold out, and that's fantastic, But you know,
Fiji and San Diego, who cares.

Speaker 24 (01:04:06):
I was literally just my wife and I were literally
just talking about this just before. It's a very strange.

Speaker 17 (01:04:12):
I know why they're doing it.

Speaker 24 (01:04:14):
Obviously, they're trying to break into the American market. But Fiji,
after you just said, with all due respect to FIGI,
we know the result and you've just had two outstanding
tests against a very good English side, and you will
almost take a backward step in terms of the contest. Anyway,
It's on at a good time Saturday two thirty, so
maybe that'll plan into their hands a little bit in

(01:04:35):
terms of people watching it back here and it's the
All Blacks of people always watch. But yeah, it does.
It does kind of feel like a little bit of
deflation out at the balloon, shall we say, in terms
of the contest particularly anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Exactly pretty break more in a moment. Andrew sevil Go
he about twelve past.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Eight the Mike Hosking breakfast a quarter past day the
Monday in commentary barks on the Mike Husking.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Breakfast, the Turtle guy haveblta with us. Spain almost scored again.
It looks if you're following the game, that Spain are
going to win this doesn't I mean, would you disagree
with that? Andrew? I mean there are a better side?

Speaker 17 (01:05:13):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 14 (01:05:13):
I wouldn't disagree This year the Spanish is starting to
open it up now.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Yeah, they're looking very good, very good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
That's going to be unfortunate for the British that is.
Having said all of that, can I ask you, Andrew
hand on heart Luluson, has she ever come around to
your place for a cup of tea? Do you know
her personally or do we all just pretend all of
a sudden that she's a down home, good old Kiwi
that we've been egging on for years and years and years.

Speaker 14 (01:05:39):
Yeah, some of the fervor around lu Luson did surprise me.
I mentioned to Andrew Dickens, who filled in for you
last week, Mike, that she hasn't come through the New
Zealand tennis system, so I can't it sort of it's
a you need to put it into context that she's
not a product of the New Zealand tennis She left

(01:06:00):
when she was young. She was in the Swiss system,
European tennis and in the American college system.

Speaker 17 (01:06:07):
But if she's.

Speaker 14 (01:06:08):
Decided to pin her future to the New Zealand flag,
then I'm sure she'll get a lot of support.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Oh no, absolutely. But the media coverage guy and you
would have seen this all of a sudden, there was
New Zealand bracing as Lulu soun. You're supposed to know
who she is is now going through to the quarterfinals
of wimble and it was just all made up.

Speaker 24 (01:06:27):
Well, say, she was born in New Zealand, so she's
more key we than a lot of quote New Zealand
sports people that we do have playing for New Zealand.

Speaker 17 (01:06:38):
A lot of the time.

Speaker 24 (01:06:38):
Across Maria Sports, there are some people who have been
in New Zealand, who have who play for New Zealand
but have never been.

Speaker 17 (01:06:43):
To New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
By the way, are you too cognizant and we don't
have time to discuss it at length, and we should
next week. There seems to be a growing disquiet among
athletes as to how they are selected or not selected
for the Olympic Games. It's there's been appeals as the
guys that I forgot what he is is the kite
surfer McCartney's partner. There's been some serious question marks around

(01:07:09):
sailing as to who got it, who didn't get it,
what the criteria was, why at least I mean, is
that a buzz in the sports world or is it.

Speaker 14 (01:07:16):
Just me and cycling and cycling. I think there's a
lot more options available to athletes, Mike. They know more
about this, this Jewish system of appeal, and I think
more are probably willing to use it if they if
they firmly believe they've got a case, a strong enough case.
So just the sign of the sign of the times,

(01:07:37):
I think. I also think it's got something to do
with the selection policy. And Sammy Maxwell, the mountain biker.

Speaker 24 (01:07:43):
Her situation is slightly different and excuse me, very complex,
But the rest of them, I think, I think because
partly of the selection policy, which is if the end
of OC doesn't deem that you are going to finish
or a likelihood of finishing in the top sixteen, then
you shouldn't go to the Olympics. And if you remember

(01:08:05):
back to before Tokyo, Zoe Hobbs, who is now a
good chance of being in an Olympic one hundred meter final,
which for a New Zealand woman would be an incredible feature.
She didn't get packed to go to Tokyo. It's stupid
because of exactly that she qualified, but she didn't get
But you either go on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Time or you don't. You know, if you can run
the one hundred x time, you're in. If you can't,
you're out, like to agree, and that whole well, we
don't think you might make it. I mean, but that's
just asking for trouble, isn't it.

Speaker 24 (01:08:31):
If you can qualify, then I personally think you should
probably get to go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Sam, give me a read on the sale. Gup, do
you have a feel for I cannot work out whether
anyone's interested in it or not.

Speaker 14 (01:08:43):
Oh, I think the crowds around the world are pretty big.
I think I think I think TV audiences a reasonably
solid around the world. It's quite exciting when there's win.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Yeh.

Speaker 14 (01:08:56):
The format is quite confusing. There's races here, races there.
The top two qualify, the top three qualify, the top
five qualifier, they go into a table and in another competition.
Then there's another competition on top of that. So I
think they probably need to just trim that down a
bit both. I think there's madam.

Speaker 24 (01:09:13):
I think it's a bit bizarre that you play and
then you play, you sail an entire season and then
the entire result of that whole season comes down to
the one and only race at the end that last
about that's weird.

Speaker 17 (01:09:27):
I think that's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
All have something to do with the money. Of course,
we've got to mention Scotty Mack. I happened to see
Scotty Mack win yesterday. So he's on an oval, so
that was his first win on an oval, and and
he said he wasn't going to call himself an Indie
drive until he won on an oval. So that was good.
And he didn't quite do as well today, but nevertheless
he sees in the major. Do you do you guys
a couple a couple of viewing recommendations? Have either of
you seen Braun br a Wn on Disney Keanu Reeves, No,

(01:09:53):
must watch. It's you's got to be a bit of
an F one nut like Keanu Reeves is. But the
story of Braun is fantastic. Is that Ross Braun as
in the guy who owned the team? Yes, I think
it is. Yeah, he was with Honda. Honda pulled the money,
they got Virgin involved, and they were the team that

(01:10:14):
sort of did amazing things.

Speaker 14 (01:10:15):
On next Jen then when Jensen but Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Button exactly, so Jenson and Rubens Barrichello were the two
drivers at the time. Other one is Receivers. You're watching Receivers.

Speaker 14 (01:10:27):
I just started watching that. Actually, look it's very good.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Yeap armand Saint Brown. How cool is he?

Speaker 17 (01:10:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:10:35):
Yeah, amazing story. What his father was two time mister
Universe and he had a weight training from a young age.
And I just some of the videography in that, in
that quarterback series and now this receiver series, Mate, it's
just out of this world.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
It was incredible. And what I've what I find uplifting
about it is it's yes, it's about football, but it's
more importantly about the individuals and what it takes to
achieve and succeed and where they come from and there's
there's that you see the family connections and the dads
and the mums who gave up everything and the whole thing.
I think it's just fantastic.

Speaker 14 (01:11:05):
And when you look at some of those camera angles
and you realize that when you watch a normal, say
TV game of NFL, it looks hard, it looks fast.
But when the camera's a sideline and you realize how
fast the game is at that pace and how brutal
the game is, they're incredibly amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
The athletes are incredible. So there must watch their top recommendation.
It's nice to see you guys. Will catch up nixt Monday.
As always, I'm guy have Elt Andrew Seval eight twenty two.

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of the sport. It's being decided by the Sports Tribunal,
but the written decision has not been released yet because
they are apparently flooded with appeals. There is a marked
increase in appeals across all codes. My sense is that
this generation of younger people have been told that they
can do anything, be anything, and that it's their right
to go to the Olympics if they are the best
in New Zealand. But we're a small pond. Sport has
a strict selection criteria set in conjunction with the New

(01:13:03):
Zealand Olympic Committee. Many of the athletes do not seem
to have an understanding that if you don't meet the
performance criteria you can't go. It's a very good point,
nay I, thank you for your contribution. My concerns come
about because I knew not a lot about this, but
there are concerns within concerns. For example, I read the
other day that sailing doesn't release their criteria and there's

(01:13:23):
a couple of people in that team that you can
quite justifiably go, why is it that they are there?
And then the other thing is the number of people
in the different sports with the number of appeals. Suddenly,
you may be right, but my concern is that the
criteria isn't simple. What we appear to have done is

(01:13:43):
complicate things. So in other words, if the criteria is
if you won a world championship, if you came first,
second or third at the last Olympics, if you can
sail a course in this particular time, whatever it may be,
it's clean, it's clear, it's obvious you either got there
or you didn't, and in that is your problem solved.
I would have thought, but somehow we seem to have
put in things like, you know, whether we think you'll

(01:14:05):
do well, whether you could do well. And once you
get a little bit of pat like that, suddenly you've
got yourself a lot of banks, which appears to be
happening at the moment's probably well worth looking into use
in a couple of moments. Then we will cross the
Tasman and some real scandal broke on Friday night when
I was watching Steve Price Live on the Telly, So
we'll have more on that for you right after the news,
which is next.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
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Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
Turning by for a Secret Service update and their investigation.
So far we know virtually nothing. We know the name
of the twenty year old, we know nothing more about him.
He had no criminal record yet his dad's gun. We
don't know how he got there, the perimeter, all those questions,
so hopefully they'll be providing something. I know that Biden
is back yet again. It's highly unusual for the president
turn up two times in a day. He gave us

(01:14:59):
the address, but he's giving an over office addressed to
the American people at eight pm their time East coast,
which is midday our time. So Biden times two twenty
three to nine.

Speaker 16 (01:15:10):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
To try three. Good morning to you.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
Good there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
You've been watching on like the rest of us.

Speaker 17 (01:15:22):
I sure have. I mean, it was an extraordinary day yesterday,
wasn't it. To witness that unfold live in you know,
takes you back those of us old enough to remember
back to the bad old days when routinely in America
people were shot dead, whether they be presidents or or
you know, religious leaders. It was just an extraordinary day

(01:15:43):
in the Australian government. I was really surprised to really
interested to watch what exactly was the reaction of people
like Anthony Albaneasi. I mean, Donald Trump obviously clearly is
not a favored you know, made it the labor part,
and I thought Anthony Albanez's reaction was pretty strange. He said, oh, well,

(01:16:04):
you know, these are very different difficult times, and we
need to think about exactly what we're going to do
in regard to to keeping all of us safe and
our other politicians safe. And he then started referring to
I've told you about this, the officers that were actually
being dued with red paint by anti pro Palestinian protesiperants.

(01:16:29):
He didn't say, look, you know, I feel sorry for
Donald Trump and all. He didn't really make a massive
comment about the fact that the president had bench old.
I mean it was almost as if, well as Donald Trump,
does it really matter?

Speaker 5 (01:16:43):
Yeah, I found that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Yeah, it's a funny thing, isn't. I just wonder how
did your media handle it? By the way, I note
the channel team Sky who you work for, among other things,
I know, throughout their programming yesterday and went live with it.
Did the other networks go live as well?

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:16:58):
But ten and that worked for tent so they stuck
with the normal programming for about an hour and a
half and then went live. But everybody else threw everything
out and went live with it, which of course it
would crazy if you wouldn't do that. It's the biggest
story probably that we witnessed for the last twenty years
or so. And look, it'll be interesting to see when

(01:17:20):
Anthony Albanez is asked again, which he will be whenever
he gets out today, exactly how he feels about.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
It, Exactly what I was speaking of television, I was
watching you on Friday night, eight o'clock New Zealand Time,
six o'clock your time. The SECA guy that you've got
the breaking news on, just explain for the background, because
the unions have been crooked for years and they seem
to have finally sprung them.

Speaker 17 (01:17:41):
Yeah, this is the CFMU, which stands for Construction, Forestry,
Mining and Engineering Union, and it is completely corrupt and
the John Setca resigned on Friday night. We broke that
story on Sky just after six o'clock. And the reason
it was so important is that all of the major
infrastructure projects in Melbourne are manned by members of that union,

(01:18:05):
all of them are over budget, all of them are
over time and it's sixty minutes. Last night on nine
and the nine newspapers today revealed that the deals CFM
you were doing but basically standover tactics. I mean they're
saying to the state government, Okay, we donate money to
you when you get elected, and what we are going
to do now is put our hand up for all

(01:18:26):
of these jobs and you're going to pay us very well.
He managed to get his workers people in his union
major pay rises over the last two or three years,
and Sepker himself has now been revealed to be actually
threatening fellow union members that if they don't stay with
his union, then he's going to come and get them.

(01:18:47):
As a vision of him going to someone's house on
the other union member's houses dropping a suitcase off with
the inscription on top of a case of case itself
that you're a dog. And so he stepped down Friday
night and as you know, well you broke that story
on Sky.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Explain to me how you can have bikes and criminals
acting as delegates employed on federal and state government funded
projects and there's not a politician, including somebody who's hung
around a long time like Daniel Andrews not doing something
about that.

Speaker 17 (01:19:18):
Well, the current premier, just Cinta Allen's husband is a
former cfmmy you member and her grandfather was head of
the Trades Will Council in Bendigot. I mean at the
labor party here doesn't survive without donations from the union movement.
It's as simple as that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Unreal. Are you catching a plane I.

Speaker 17 (01:19:38):
Mean Sydney a book that's catch a plane to Melbourne?

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
No, no, just just checking. Did you need to check
in it? Are they leading you straight through to the
lounge or you got some problems here?

Speaker 17 (01:19:46):
Or I mean I can't mention the name of the loundy.
And I've had this discussion before, haven't we so exclusive
to talk about it?

Speaker 13 (01:19:55):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Brittany you know, yes, I do know that Brittany Higgins
in announcing she's pregnant. When does she stop becoming a story?

Speaker 13 (01:20:05):
Never?

Speaker 17 (01:20:06):
Probably? I mean she's still got that court case against
Linda Reynolds, her former boss, the minister, and that case
is going ahead in Perth. But she's back with her husband,
David Schiraz in France, as you know, bought themselves a
house in the little village in France. And today they've
announced the happy news that they're going to have their

(01:20:27):
first child and that she is pregnant, so that will
make big news all day. People still want to know
what Britney Higgins is up to. That's just that's how
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Fly safe, mate, we'll see Wednesday. Appreciate a very much
steep price out of Australia. Yes, if you've not followed
the union movement in Australia, particularly in Victoria, it's been
going on for decades, literally decades, and it's been widely
known that they're all crooks in everything they do and
build in Australia is conducted in some way, shape or
form by a nefarious activity. And yet they've only us

(01:20:58):
now really blown the whole thing open. Wasn't that interesting
what Steve said about, you know, one of the biggest
stories in twenty years and why on earth wouldn't you
throw you format? I go back to what I said
earlier on about TV one and TV three. I don't
know what the arrangement is with stuff in TV three
these days, but does TV three want a new service
or maybe they don't care anymore, or maybe maybe was

(01:21:18):
that part of the contract did they say Hey, listen,
if something big happens, we expect you to cover it
live throughout the day. Because that didn't happen yesterday. A
number of people defending TV one and TV three by
saying it was on their app. That's not what I'm
talking about. That's not what I'm talking about. What I'm
talking about is it was a televisual story. It was
the biggest story of the year. It's it's a moment

(01:21:40):
in history, and you throw everything out and you go
live and you run the pictures.

Speaker 20 (01:21:45):
Well, well, I'm wondering if that was the problem they've
thrown everything out, or well they put it on TV.

Speaker 11 (01:21:50):
They just don't have the game.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Yeah, maybe that is the problem. Maybe they don't know
how to go live anymore. But you cannot claim to
have a news service and be a news organization if
you can't hub of the news when it happens all day,
every day until it's exhausted people. I mean, what else
were they doing yesterday on a Sunday at one in
the afternoon. What's the audience on Sunday one in the
afternoon apart from no one, there's no advertising, there's no audience.

(01:22:14):
Gopher Broke I mean, you've got the biggest story in
the world right in front of you, and I'm switching
to one. I'm switching to three. Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing
and nothing. How you justify that, I've got no idea?
A forty five the Mike Hoskey racist with about two
and a half minutes to go, Look who's scored.

Speaker 25 (01:22:33):
Akorea till ostade oil, fugall drugged weet time.

Speaker 7 (01:22:47):
Time is running out.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
That's spain On need that insummation, I would say, and
I'm not the greatest fan of this particular sport in
the world, but insummation, I would argue, England about to
take a corner. By the way information, I would say
that England never looked likely. They looked like they crawled
their way back. They haven't led the game. They don't
look like they're leading the game. They don't look like
they're going to win the game. Corner. Just let me

(01:23:09):
give you the corner and good header, jeez, that's it's wow?
Was that three three, three cracks at goal and they
got it off the line every time, all off aheader?
So England will not die wondering missed, missed, missed over
the top. So about a minute ago, it was a

(01:23:30):
good crack. I mean, they can replay that in the
pub in Britain for another couple of hours, can't they?
As they somewhere I had a number, was it forty eight?
I think the day in terms of extra pints is
forty eight million pound boost to the beer drinking economy
in Britain and especially up the northern part of the country.
They seem to think it was going to be a
very good day. Speaking of which, if I moved to Britain,

(01:23:51):
would you object? Because I was having quite the conversation
yesterday with my wife over what turned out to be
a fabulous meal at our local restaurant. They do well
things we didn't even know they did it. It's a
roast of the day, which is not that unusual.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
But the pork.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
There was roast pork, which we don't eat, so we
didn't do that. But there was roast lamb. Roast lamb
you had to have for two because it was a
whole shoulder, So they roasted the shoulder and it came
with roast Brussels sprouts, carrots and potatoes and gravy, and
the lamb was served on a bed of barley. It
was absolutely phenomenal. And not only was it phenomenal, there

(01:24:30):
was enough for at least three, certainly three, if not
four people, And so I thought what looked at the
start to be reasonably expensive, I thought, well, that's that's
about extra. Anyway, it turns out to be quite a
bargain anyway. Over this particular meal, we discussed buying Foxglove Farm. Now,
Foxglove Farm is a place in Chipping Norton and it's

(01:24:53):
literally about one hundred meters away from Jeremy Clarkson's place,
and it's about three or four and it's currently for sale.
The bloke who owns it's old, and he clearly lives
in London, doesn't get down there much. And we seriously
had a conversation, why don't we just move to Britain
and we'll buy Foxglove Farm and have a look at it.
It's beautiful, the beautiful buildings. There's a cottage and out cottage,

(01:25:17):
you know, a little extra cottage. There's some working stables,
there's some fruit trees, there's a glorious garden, and I
thought that's the life, isn't it. And you're down the
road from a there's a famous hotel down the road,
not the one that he's bought, but another famous hotel
down the road, and there's all sorts of you know,
it's a big tourist area as well. And I thought,

(01:25:37):
that's the life you reckon.

Speaker 11 (01:25:38):
You could poach Caleb to look after it for you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
First thing I'd do, I'd get him to do the lawns,
and I would broadcast at night from Britain in the
morning here, so I'd be able to live longer because
I'm not killing myself getting out of bed at two
thirty in the morning, so I live longer. The quality
of the program would go up, and I'd been in
Chipping Norton. Now does that strike you as a good
idea or does that strike you as a good eye
as a manner that I don't want to go? Don't

(01:26:02):
you want to go? When you when you be quite keen,
you could say in the app cottage it's still England,
a little little out cottage. Oh, I don't know anyway.
It was just a thought over our roast meal plus four.
They've added four minutes to this for they're two thirty
seven in too extra time. It is nine minutes away
from nine.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
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Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
Mike you need help, Yeah, that's probably true, but it's nothing.
I can't find a foxglove Farmwa's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Just look it up.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
It's absolutely glorious pictures off there and life is short.
The reason I mentioned all of that, ironically, is that
reportage overnight they've approved the dissolution. This is Clarkson and
his mates, May and Hammond have approved the dissolution of W.
Chump and Sons, which is the company that made the
Grand to It. So as part of the company's dissolution,
the trio declared soligncy and have been appointed have appointed

(01:26:55):
a liquid Data to wind up their business. So what
they're saying is that there is no more grand to Her,
there is no more dem You will never see those
three perform together again, which in many respects have said,
but I think they go out on top, don't the
only one of the great combos of all time. You
can't recreate that magic, as they've found out. Ironically, five
minutes away from nine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Trending now with chemist Wills keeping Kiwi's healthy all.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Year round, England have scored.

Speaker 25 (01:27:24):
Kidding Spain Champions of Europe yet again, the best team
won it not coming home once more, This zestful football
nation has come to the party and.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Dance the most beautiful dance.

Speaker 25 (01:27:45):
They are show business, they're young, they're fresh, they're free,
they're champions and England's are crestfallen.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Not surprised either. So it's not coming home. And the
question mark is over Southgate. One, whether that was it
for him? The suggesting is what either way it was
it for him? Two does he And there was a
report over the weekend that suggested he was going to
get a knighthood either way, which I'm not sure that
it justifies a knighthood coming second, and nothing's come home

(01:28:15):
under Southgate. And as was explained to us earlier on
and the you know, he's a good guy and the
players love him, and the sides are better side, and
we're all feeling better about ourselves. But unless you win,
you're knowing and so he's nothing And so I just
don't know that you hand out knighthoods for that. By
the way, I was in Night A teen the other day.

(01:28:36):
Do you know they sell road cones in ny ten.
I've never seen road cones in Mighty ten.

Speaker 20 (01:28:41):
We do know that because Andrew Dickins told us that
he saw them on sale how much well he saw
them at Bunnings. Yeah, so presumably they'll match the price
by and beat it by ten percent.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
Thirty nine dollars.

Speaker 11 (01:28:53):
I know his wordes were definitely cheaper than that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Thirty nine thirty nine dollars.

Speaker 11 (01:28:57):
You don't want to get it from ny to ten,
then you want to get it from Bunning. Is there
only nineteen dollars a penny.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
For two hundred, I've been ripped off. I think I'm
going to comb my right.

Speaker 20 (01:29:04):
The point is, if you're hiring them for four dollars
a day, you're definitely being wrapped up.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
At a coin and matter is something anyway? Good to
be back to see you tomorrow morning at six a m.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Happy Days, It's beautiful season a hook.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
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