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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As far as reality television goes, there's not about combo. Actually,
you get some well known people to do some stuff
that improves your health match fit. It's back for its
fourth season. It's x rugby union rugby league athletes getting
themselves back into shape, both physically and mentally. They're coached
each team's coach by Graham Henry and Toodo Nicu. First
episode came out last night on TV three. Peter Alatini
and Louis Anderson, two of the contestants, both are with us.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning, Good morning love.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm extremely well. Let me it's difficult to know where
to start. So first of all, it's a good show,
and I discovered it by accident, and I like the
vibe a bit, and I like what it's trying to do.
So this time round its contest between union and league,
and you add up all the numbers and you've got
the fat and the age and what you lose and
all that sort of stuff. What's more important to me,
(00:46):
I'll start with you, Louis, is my fascination with athletes,
elite athletes, and when you're coming to the ind of
your career, how much time is put into the idea
of what I look like feel like health wise post
when I stopped being an elite athlete.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, I mean everybody's different. Obviously, in my situation, I
trained just out of that was the habit that I
had developed over my career training, right, So I hung
the boots up and continued training. But then when I
realized I was training really for nothing, I started not
training and just got into bad habits and a bit lazy.
(01:23):
And that's when you start running into some health issues
and things like that as we get older. But for me,
I didn't put much time into it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I just carried on training because that's what I'd done
fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
And same with you, Peter or not, Yep, I was.
I was very similar.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I think when I retired, I came back and got
in a role with Bucket Rugby Club as director of rugby,
so I was around rugby still although there was no
Obviously the competition has such to play in for myself,
but I just got an actually got to train, enjoyed
(01:58):
training so much more outside of just so I was
probably more in that like you stake of knowing that
it's part of it, but managed to find something more
than just training for rugby, So that was that was
kind of my my kind of purpose in terms of
life after.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
We don't have to give the results away because that's
all part of the show and stuff. But some of
the some of the guys are blown out in a
big way. What happens? How do you blow out? Because
here's my thinking. Once you be you don't have to
be an elite athlete forever obviously, but but the health
benefits of being well surely must you must clock them.
(02:35):
How do you fall apart?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I think in my case, when I see guys that
are blown out, I think it's through the experiences are
supposed to have as a trainer during that time. Where
for some guys that's one part where where they didn't
really like training when they were professionals, did it because
they had to, and then once it was finished, then
they decided not to do it anymore. The other part
is around I think guys just go, like we all do,
(02:59):
some challenges that are but more than taken, and the
last thing they want to do is trained to keep
them well, you know, and I don't think they understand
that part of how it links that you know, your
physical ability will definitely help your mental ability. So that's
that's what I kind of felt for.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Some see the interesting thing from both of you are
frauds in the scene stat because you both you both
look fantastic. You don't carry much weight if you look
at some of the other guys, your biometric age is
way under what actually it is and all that sort
of thing. So as far as the competition is concerned,
what Louis did you add to it? Because I mean,
how much weight could you lose? How much? I mean
(03:36):
you're already found you look at you're a specimen of
a man.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Oh, you're very kind. But I think what's interesting is
when you do a body scan, it gives you information
that you cannot see on the scales.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Isn't that freaking Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And that's for me during the show, that was the
where my changes really took place. The weight was a
different story, but you'll see that on the show. But yeah,
it's even though sometimes we can train, we don't see
the scales going down, but the actual internal changes are huge.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And did you understand that as an athlete going in
or not?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Really?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Not really? I mean, like we're talking about before, like
you train so much as a professional athlete that sometimes
you can have a not greater diet, but because you're
running every day, you're burning it, you get away with it.
And then when you stop, you stop training, you still
have the bad diet and that's when the weight goes on.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So hys Peter, in your sense, were you were round
at a time when that sort of thing transformed the game,
you know, in terms of fitness and diet and nutrition
and the professionals within the side that gave you the
information you may or may not have needed.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
When I was in the game, that was started to
come through, right, you know, I was kind of in
the transition where they like, this is really important for
your performance as such. So when I left, I was
still kind of unshort, like is it really same thing?
Probably didn't worry too much about diet, just trying to
outtrain it as such. You know, playing have fun, but
I think think, and my Laddie is in Japan being
(05:02):
around people there, I start again kind of being a
bit more particular knowing I suppose that's the older I
was getting older. So every time I keep coming back
and I want to keep playing on you to kind
of stay fit as such.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But it is it is that that kind of internal side.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I think as the scariest part where you think you
even even as a fit body, but all of a sudden,
you know, you could your sugar levels could be high, or.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
There's an imbalanced and you don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, so kind of again in those messages around getting
regular checkups and all that kind of stuff become makes
sense as you old.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I'll tell you what Louis was. It was interesting on
the show. How do you deal with the culture of
bloats talking about health? Right, So I'm looking at the
opening and I won't give too much away, but there's
an element of nervouses there, some of them. Some of
them are going to have to face up to some
you know, pretty serious challenges.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah you did, right. It takes a bit of courage
because everyone's you know, there's probably embarrassment involved with some
things as well, hopping on scale and knowing how much
body fat you're carrying at the time. So it definitely,
you know, it takes a bit of carriage to get
up there and expose yourself to each other. But you know,
it was a safe, safe place for us to open
(06:12):
up not just about our weight and issues, health issues,
but also mental struggles. As well. So that's what the
what I like about the show. It just doesn't cover
your physical challenges, but also the mental side.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What about the mental side for you, Peter? Is that
a thing? Has it been a thing? Is it a thing?
Is it with any of the other guys? Did you
take that side of it as a surprise or not?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
No, Look, it's not for myself because I know I
know how hard it is mentally to really to talk
about what you're going through and your challenges and you know,
and I'm no different. The last few years have been
very challenging in my own personal life. But yeah, the
key around just kind of reconnecting, being able to share
(06:53):
and kind of you know you share is like that
there's no pressure to shit. You know, it's in your
feel and we're are at but there's a real beautiful
thing when you when you reach those heights and you
just want to share what I suppose what the group
has done for yourself to be able to overcome that
now and put some things in place to go forward.
And we know it's it's not the show is a
(07:13):
beautiful thing, but we know that it's after the show
that you know, when you expanded, when you expand again,
how do you find those little nuggas that you've picked
up from there to carry carry through your journey.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's a mental discipline though. That's right, isn't it? Which
is the other thing that it fascinates me, Lou about
you know, elite athletes. It is mental discipline, not natural.
Is that taught in that sense? You know how some
people are born to just you are what you are,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, definitely. I mean I came into the Warriors when
I was young, and I learned a lot of a
lot about discipline. I mean, depending on your home environment
and what discipline is instilled there if there is, but
going there, learning how to train when no one's watching
you and all that sort of thing. I had to
learn all that. I didn't naturally have that again, you know,
(07:58):
I went to boarding school and learned sort of a
bit of discipline down there as well. But yeah, sometimes
it's not natural in us, and we learned that in
the professional environment.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So are you happy with these days?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Peter?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And when I asked that question, the other thing that
fascinates me about people is once you've been an elite athlete,
you know you're going to retire young. That's just the
way it is, and perhaps what you do at that
time is the greatest thing you will ever do in
your life. And then there's another forty years. Have you
had to deal with that or not?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Really, yes, you've heard it right in the head. I have.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I thought I was during that time professional. Of course
we reach the heights, and I did, And then it
became once I finished in Japan, even though I was
involved in rugby and did all the coaching, understanding all
the different pathways for kids, there was still I think
it was deep inside. There was still things that I
hadn't dealt with one kind of the finishing understanding that
(08:54):
games done and all that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
But even some disappointments.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I think throughout my career that I hadn't doubt that
kind of surface, never thought it a surface, thought it
dealt with it then, But its surfaced at some point
in my life. But in terms of I suppose it's
getting older, a little bit more patient, a little bit
more ounderstanding has got me to a place where I
can honestly say that I'm I'm in a happier place
(09:17):
kind of more more understanding and just more content good
and life life, is good and the kids are all
growing to great ages and their living life to their
full list. So then for myself now it's like cool,
like that's that was one of the other guys post
rugby was that making sure that the kids are all
good and healthy and happy and looking at living life right.
(09:40):
So that's been cool and that's where I'm at now
and really really happy around fantastic.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
The most critical question of the whole interview, though, Louis,
is what do we do with the Warriors?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Then?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Come on, yeah, yeah, you got out.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I mean, you know, I got twenty six years, twenty
seven years invested in the side, and Webster was the
hero and he was going to save us all. And
we started off well this season, then it all falls
apart and then we beat the Dolphins and the Panthers
and then we lose to the Titans, and then Harris
de Beta can't kick you. Come on?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I always always thought when you when you're when your
team's mottos, keep the faith, it's it's a worry. But
you know, I think last year they set that by
that bar so high and they did so well, especially
webs first season, and I mean, like I always support
the Warriors. When when when we'll lose? So I think
they're just going through a little patch at the moment.
But I hope they just finished the season strong and
(10:33):
carry that on into next season.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Okay, but no, no, I've got no answer.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I've got no answer. You've got no answer. But I'm
like you, man, you know, I just hope they do
well and turn it around for the rest of the year.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
So I look at it as I reckon where we
really struggle. Like the expectation was high, but that's always
got to be in our sporting life. When you when
you get to that spot, the key around the players,
when they get to that spot, it's like, and it's
going to come harder next year, So what are we
doing to match it and go further? Because now now
we've done the hard yards to get there and people
(11:09):
are behind us. So it's always like I always feel,
even with kids when we work with the first think kids,
it's like, once you set there bar high, you've got
to keep going. You can't come back down. So it's
it's that acting. I think we've to still the man.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I think Webs is definitely the man. Are you two
of the men as well. It's fantastic to see you both,
and good luck at the SHOWGA and nice to talk
to you. Thanks Peter Alertini and Louis Anderson this morning.
By the way, the participants in the show Ali Latii,
this will take down Memory Lane. This is the league
side obviously, Ali Latiti, Henry far Feeley, Colo, Leslie Vonnicolo,
Clinton Torpie, Louis Anderson and Paul for Tata And as
(11:48):
far as rugby is concerned, Alertini, weepoo bunts, Spencer, Miller
and Fisa.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
We're a bit of a discussion about how much calas
Spencer needs to tidy himself up.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's that's why it's talking to Sun before we do.
I see this Spencer guy. What a fraud, you know,
the whole toffee pop business. The guy looks ridiculous, especially
against some of them who maybe he's.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Got a blood sugar problem or something we don't know about.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It could be that.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
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