July 28, 2024 • 12 mins
Andrew Saville and Guy Heveldt join Mike Hosking to discuss the Olympics Games getting underway, including the NZ men’s Sevens being knocked out from medal contention, Canadian spying, and the state of the River Seine.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
D Andrews Sevilge. I have elt both with us this morning, Fellows,
good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
To you, morning, my good morning, guy.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Give us the inside word so far. Your vibe on
what's happened with the Games? Are they all you thought
they would be? The weather, the opening, the events, the victories,
the losses, the spying, the scandal. What's your encapsulation?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Well, first of all, I thought I would probably get
a formal apology from your show this morning after the
planner that I copped last week. I landed in Dubai
and to a numerous amount of decks saying that I
copped absolute grief about not telling you I was going
to be on Which is that is true?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And true?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
That is true? Let me know what I've done, guy.
To be fair to you, I've set aside a portion
of the second part of this because I got to
the bottom of it this morning and it is shameful
on our behalf. So an apology will be coming. But
back to the games.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, that's fine. Look, I heard you talk before about
New Zealand results there in years, they have been slow
off the mark, and maybe a couple of results that
have been quite disappointing. I'd say particularly the men sevens
and then Lewis Clearbert this morning, who I think would
be incredibly upset at how our hayeswam. I had heard
and I reported this that he had been going very
(01:17):
well and they didn't deny it, that his times were
going well, and he certainly didn't live up that this morning.
So I've seen some quotes from him and he does
sound pretty gutted, so you've got a feel for him. Look,
the vibe here is outstanding. I thought the opening ceremony
was pretty boring, but aside from that, the vibe the
venues are just incredible. The French people are getting behind
(01:38):
their athletes and other athletes as well. There is some
controversy obviously, the spying the state of the river, which
I wouldn't even throw you in there after the last
week's slander towards me. That's how bad it is. Look yeah,
But other than that, it's so far an outstanding games,
and then they're hosting it pretty well with its metals.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Have you the train still a major or they haven't
got to the bottom of it? But are the trains
are major or not?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
We were quite fortunate because our whole team was in
Paris by the time that happened, so none of our
team was really impacted by it. I did hear from
a couple of people who were trying to make their way.
I can't remember where they're coming from, but they said
they were slightly impacted from it. It didn't sound as
bad as it was initially made out to be. Put
it that way, I think people have found ways around it.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Has anybody got to the bottom of why you would
spy on a team that was never going to beat
you when you went.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I mean, it's a big story because mainly because of
the security I think, and also the integrity of the
sport as well. But that is the number one question,
isn't it. Why on earth would you spy on a
team that, frankly is rubbish. They haven't won anything for
a while. Although in saying that, it sounds like not
only the Canadian women's team has been doing it, but
the men's team has been doing it as well, and
(02:55):
it sounds like they've been doing it for an elongated
period of time. So I think there might be more
to this, which is not very good for them.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Okay, Sev, explain yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I was just gonna ask guy how many how many
Malton and Mouth pastries as you had?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Good question?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
No no, no, no, no no no, let's get onto the finger.
I have had a few passes pizzas I started to
actually find French food around here. I've had Japanese and
Italians and that's pretty much where I've been going in
amongst pastries obviously. But yeah, other than that, speaking.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Speaking speaking of pastries, explain yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Hey mate, all I can say is I was the
player of the after match.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I bet you were. I bet you were so for
people missed it. This was obviously a charity event in Russell.
Was it yesterday or the day before?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
The game was played on Saturday. It was for a
charity called Rugby for Life and they do some fantastic
works fish up in the North and Northland in the province,
helping rugby clubs. Basically employ people to look after each club,
to get people back involved in rugby clubs and to
get kids playing again here. So it's great. It was
(04:05):
the Primarian team, but but heaps of ringings in this
parliamentaring team. But I've never seen such a big young
mob of MPs.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
In my life.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Mitch play, Yes, I didn't. I didn't realize he was
actually playing until I shook his hands in the game.
I said, where have you been? I wanted to nail
you for all the poor, underpaid police around the country.
And he said, I hit the he hit the first
ruck in the start of the game, and he went
and he did his back and he never didn't see
another minute of action.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So goodness.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I asked a lot of that position.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Did you play?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Good question?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Position? I packed down in a couple of scrums at Locke,
the one at Blindside, I was in a couple of
line I was just in the everything guy, I tell
you what though the first four parted up. Some guy
in the opposition is about six foot eight with a
beard weighing about one hundred and fifty kiloh Yep, he
screened out my name as you went to tackle me,
(05:02):
so I knew something was about to give. And I
got absolutely nailed. The crowd went up. I think it
might have been the hearted of the game, but no,
it was. It was a fantastic occasion and day and
then the evening at the fantastic duke of Marlburt and Russell.
Got a spot, got a spot.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Just the only reason I'm interested in giving your age
and everything. Andrew, how did you pull up?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Not good? No, not good. I've heard a rumor.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, I was about the finger.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Not good. I should be able to work tomorrow and
tap on the keyboard.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So it's an injury as opposed to seizing up.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well, there was a lot of seizing up. I had
to drive back from Russell to Auckland yesterday and I
had to get some gas and fung ot a and
people were staring at me walking across the fore court.
I looked like a half shut pocket knife. Things went good.
But what the story of the game, though, was We
(06:04):
were well led by Tane Rander, once a captain, always
a captain. He revealed to me later that night that
he'd blown his hamstring in the warm up, but he
still played most of the game. He said, it didn't
effect this pace at all.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Those are the days, Those are the days are real.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And the great halftime speech from our coach, Ian Jones,
he said, look, you fat pricks up front of them,
and a wonderful job. But for God, except for God,
say get the ball to Nehe Milner's scudder, who was
one of our wingers's.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And but you won, though didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You, Yes, we did thirty three. I think it was.
It was, it was. It was a blowout. I did
notice the lay that the labor MPs. You could tell
those guys because they were backpeddling at a fear rate
of knots precisely National Nationals first, trying very very hard
to change the way the game was going. Mike.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But you know some of those guys, like I mean
you you you might do I mean, did you get
doctors clearance? What about Shane Jones? I mean really, I mean,
with all due respect to him, I mean, at that
age to be doing that sort of thing is you're
running a risk, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
There were there was an ambulance in a team of
paramedics on standby. I think there was a there was
a defibrillator on both sides of the field. No, it
was Buddy good Actually yeah, no it was. I didn't
nail Penny, he no run. At one stage that felt
really good.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, yeah, well done, well done. Anyway, going back to you,
one of the things you notice when you cover events
in big cities is that a big city can absorb.
It's not like New Zealand. I mean New Zealand. If
we ever held the Olympics, it had closed the place down.
Does France feel like it's immersed in Olympic noise?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That's a very good question.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Elements or parts of it are? Sections of it are?
People are very very into it, but some other people
that you talk about couldn't give a toss that it's on.
You know, you go into the middle of the town
around the arch tree on from that sort of thing,
and people are going to work, going about their normal lives,
barely even registering that the Olympics are on. In terms
of traffic, you know, parts of that towards venues are bad,
(08:05):
but overall they've gone it pretty good. They've got Olympic
lanes and that sort of thing. So the traffic in
terms of that's flowing pretty well overall. Yeah, I think
it's all good.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And what's your vibe on see if things don't go
well for us? Here and new reference that I can't
remember the name of the company, the company that does
the predictions for all the metals. Yeah, they had us
at fourteen. We're not going to get fourteen unless something
dramatic happens. If we don't do well, well, will you go?
Oh you argue with me?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
You think, well, I just think, yes, it's been a
slow start, but you've got to remember Rowings coming up,
and they were quite heavy underdogs and a lot of
quarters heading into these games. But they've been excellent in
the heats and showing pretty strong results in the heats.
The men's for Emma Twig, Tom McIntosh, the lightweight women
(08:54):
double I believe of all one their heats, and then
the women's full finished second, so there should be some
medals coming in there. The cyclists are heading into these
games looking pretty good. The kayakers obviously Dame leaksa Carrington
she will win at least a medal or two, and
the women's sevens would have to be favorites for gold.
So yes, it's been slow, but there are still medals
(09:18):
to come o.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
This sort happens happened about every This sort of happens
about every games, it isn't it, You know, as a
slow start and everybody gets hasty and concerned, and then
all of a sudden there's a flood at the end.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Well, well, as long as there is a flood at
the end, that was my point. Guy. Do you think
I were of an age now where once upon a
time we used to have a really angsty conversation in
this country about performance, elite athletes, funding, winning, being champions
or are we just sort of not into that anymore
and as long as they turned up and had a
good time, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I think in some sports there is still that question.
There are a lot of you know, like sailing gets
big numbers in terms of funding, and well, they haven't
got anywhere near the middle races yet, but leading into it,
you'd have to say that they are looking unlikely to
win any medals. Rowing obviously gets big numbers, and they
(10:09):
will need to prove that they deserve that funding. So
I think in terms of some sports there are you
always here from basketball people, for example, they don't get
enough money, and so if these sports that do get
a lot of funding don't live up to the hype
at these games, then those calls will come. I don't
think it's maybe as as as fervent as it used
(10:30):
to be in there regard. People used to get very
fired up about it. I don't know if it's quite
as bad as it is.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
You sad? You ready for the good news?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Rams? One national basketball title two in a row?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Oh? Yes, yes, I watched that used to fantastical stadium
going off and.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Lynwood Rugby got the christ Premier Competition yesterday as well,
three years I think, wasn't it, Yeah, nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Fantastic Just on your point of just on your point
of pressure from that, just if they can relate back
to Russell on Saturday. You know, Tane Randall's in the
huddle and once a captain, always a captain. But these guys,
whether it's charity game, whether it's a Test match, they
played to win and they never lose that attitude. I
was it was so fantastic to be that close to
(11:15):
those sorts of guys and playing with them. If I
can use that to him loosely, but Renny Ranger was
playing for his near him and was got a feel
all Blacks and those guys played to win whatever game
they're in. That never changes.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You know, that's one of the champions, and you are
in association with champions, so a little bit of that champion.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Could has raised given you a cool Yet well, I
did see Graham Henry later that night and he said
he said, I'd pick you in my team any days, Sam,
and I said, okay, Graham it's probably late at night, mate.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You can trust you're sure, but.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Just back to just back to Russell. What is stunning?
You know you guys, probably it's just stunning the place,
it's it's it's it's a Duke of Mars as good
as a good hospitality, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
If I if I put you on hold now, Sef,
can you tell yourself some more stories for another half house?
See how you go? Andrew Sevil the guy have held.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
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Speaker 2 (12:13):
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D Andrews Sevilge. I have elt both with us this morning, Fellows,
good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
To you, morning, my good morning, guy.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Give us the inside word so far. Your vibe on
what's happened with the Games? Are they all you thought
they would be? The weather, the opening, the events, the victories,
the losses, the spying, the scandal. What's your encapsulation?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Well, first of all, I thought I would probably get
a formal apology from your show this morning after the
planner that I copped last week. I landed in Dubai
and to a numerous amount of decks saying that I
copped absolute grief about not telling you I was going
to be on Which is that is true?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And true?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
That is true? Let me know what I've done, guy.
To be fair to you, I've set aside a portion
of the second part of this because I got to
the bottom of it this morning and it is shameful
on our behalf. So an apology will be coming. But
back to the games.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, that's fine. Look, I heard you talk before about
New Zealand results there in years, they have been slow
off the mark, and maybe a couple of results that
have been quite disappointing. I'd say particularly the men sevens
and then Lewis Clearbert this morning, who I think would
be incredibly upset at how our hayeswam. I had heard
and I reported this that he had been going very
(01:17):
well and they didn't deny it, that his times were
going well, and he certainly didn't live up that this morning.
So I've seen some quotes from him and he does
sound pretty gutted, so you've got a feel for him. Look,
the vibe here is outstanding. I thought the opening ceremony
was pretty boring, but aside from that, the vibe the
venues are just incredible. The French people are getting behind
(01:38):
their athletes and other athletes as well. There is some
controversy obviously, the spying the state of the river, which
I wouldn't even throw you in there after the last
week's slander towards me. That's how bad it is. Look yeah,
But other than that, it's so far an outstanding games,
and then they're hosting it pretty well with its metals.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Have you the train still a major or they haven't
got to the bottom of it? But are the trains
are major or not?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
We were quite fortunate because our whole team was in
Paris by the time that happened, so none of our
team was really impacted by it. I did hear from
a couple of people who were trying to make their way.
I can't remember where they're coming from, but they said
they were slightly impacted from it. It didn't sound as
bad as it was initially made out to be. Put
it that way, I think people have found ways around it.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Has anybody got to the bottom of why you would
spy on a team that was never going to beat
you when you went.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I mean, it's a big story because mainly because of
the security I think, and also the integrity of the
sport as well. But that is the number one question,
isn't it. Why on earth would you spy on a
team that, frankly is rubbish. They haven't won anything for
a while. Although in saying that, it sounds like not
only the Canadian women's team has been doing it, but
the men's team has been doing it as well, and
(02:55):
it sounds like they've been doing it for an elongated
period of time. So I think there might be more
to this, which is not very good for them.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Okay, Sev, explain yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I was just gonna ask guy how many how many
Malton and Mouth pastries as you had?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Good question?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
No no, no, no, no no no, let's get onto the finger.
I have had a few passes pizzas I started to
actually find French food around here. I've had Japanese and
Italians and that's pretty much where I've been going in
amongst pastries obviously. But yeah, other than that, speaking.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Speaking speaking of pastries, explain yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Hey mate, all I can say is I was the
player of the after match.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I bet you were. I bet you were so for
people missed it. This was obviously a charity event in Russell.
Was it yesterday or the day before?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
The game was played on Saturday. It was for a
charity called Rugby for Life and they do some fantastic
works fish up in the North and Northland in the province,
helping rugby clubs. Basically employ people to look after each club,
to get people back involved in rugby clubs and to
get kids playing again here. So it's great. It was
(04:05):
the Primarian team, but but heaps of ringings in this
parliamentaring team. But I've never seen such a big young
mob of MPs.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
In my life.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Mitch play, Yes, I didn't. I didn't realize he was
actually playing until I shook his hands in the game.
I said, where have you been? I wanted to nail
you for all the poor, underpaid police around the country.
And he said, I hit the he hit the first
ruck in the start of the game, and he went
and he did his back and he never didn't see
another minute of action.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So goodness.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I asked a lot of that position.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Did you play?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Good question?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Position? I packed down in a couple of scrums at Locke,
the one at Blindside, I was in a couple of
line I was just in the everything guy, I tell
you what though the first four parted up. Some guy
in the opposition is about six foot eight with a
beard weighing about one hundred and fifty kiloh Yep, he
screened out my name as you went to tackle me,
(05:02):
so I knew something was about to give. And I
got absolutely nailed. The crowd went up. I think it
might have been the hearted of the game, but no,
it was. It was a fantastic occasion and day and
then the evening at the fantastic duke of Marlburt and Russell.
Got a spot, got a spot.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Just the only reason I'm interested in giving your age
and everything. Andrew, how did you pull up?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Not good? No, not good. I've heard a rumor.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, I was about the finger.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Not good. I should be able to work tomorrow and
tap on the keyboard.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So it's an injury as opposed to seizing up.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well, there was a lot of seizing up. I had
to drive back from Russell to Auckland yesterday and I
had to get some gas and fung ot a and
people were staring at me walking across the fore court.
I looked like a half shut pocket knife. Things went good.
But what the story of the game, though, was We
(06:04):
were well led by Tane Rander, once a captain, always
a captain. He revealed to me later that night that
he'd blown his hamstring in the warm up, but he
still played most of the game. He said, it didn't
effect this pace at all.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Those are the days, Those are the days are real.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And the great halftime speech from our coach, Ian Jones,
he said, look, you fat pricks up front of them,
and a wonderful job. But for God, except for God,
say get the ball to Nehe Milner's scudder, who was
one of our wingers's.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And but you won, though didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You, Yes, we did thirty three. I think it was.
It was, it was. It was a blowout. I did
notice the lay that the labor MPs. You could tell
those guys because they were backpeddling at a fear rate
of knots precisely National Nationals first, trying very very hard
to change the way the game was going. Mike.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But you know some of those guys, like I mean
you you you might do I mean, did you get
doctors clearance? What about Shane Jones? I mean really, I mean,
with all due respect to him, I mean, at that
age to be doing that sort of thing is you're
running a risk, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
There were there was an ambulance in a team of
paramedics on standby. I think there was a there was
a defibrillator on both sides of the field. No, it
was Buddy good Actually yeah, no it was. I didn't
nail Penny, he no run. At one stage that felt
really good.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, yeah, well done, well done. Anyway, going back to you,
one of the things you notice when you cover events
in big cities is that a big city can absorb.
It's not like New Zealand. I mean New Zealand. If
we ever held the Olympics, it had closed the place down.
Does France feel like it's immersed in Olympic noise?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That's a very good question.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Elements or parts of it are? Sections of it are?
People are very very into it, but some other people
that you talk about couldn't give a toss that it's on.
You know, you go into the middle of the town
around the arch tree on from that sort of thing,
and people are going to work, going about their normal lives,
barely even registering that the Olympics are on. In terms
of traffic, you know, parts of that towards venues are bad,
(08:05):
but overall they've gone it pretty good. They've got Olympic
lanes and that sort of thing. So the traffic in
terms of that's flowing pretty well overall. Yeah, I think
it's all good.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And what's your vibe on see if things don't go
well for us? Here and new reference that I can't
remember the name of the company, the company that does
the predictions for all the metals. Yeah, they had us
at fourteen. We're not going to get fourteen unless something
dramatic happens. If we don't do well, well, will you go?
Oh you argue with me?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
You think, well, I just think, yes, it's been a
slow start, but you've got to remember Rowings coming up,
and they were quite heavy underdogs and a lot of
quarters heading into these games. But they've been excellent in
the heats and showing pretty strong results in the heats.
The men's for Emma Twig, Tom McIntosh, the lightweight women
(08:54):
double I believe of all one their heats, and then
the women's full finished second, so there should be some
medals coming in there. The cyclists are heading into these
games looking pretty good. The kayakers obviously Dame leaksa Carrington
she will win at least a medal or two, and
the women's sevens would have to be favorites for gold.
So yes, it's been slow, but there are still medals
(09:18):
to come o.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
This sort happens happened about every This sort of happens
about every games, it isn't it, You know, as a
slow start and everybody gets hasty and concerned, and then
all of a sudden there's a flood at the end.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Well, well, as long as there is a flood at
the end, that was my point. Guy. Do you think
I were of an age now where once upon a
time we used to have a really angsty conversation in
this country about performance, elite athletes, funding, winning, being champions
or are we just sort of not into that anymore
and as long as they turned up and had a
good time, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I think in some sports there is still that question.
There are a lot of you know, like sailing gets
big numbers in terms of funding, and well, they haven't
got anywhere near the middle races yet, but leading into it,
you'd have to say that they are looking unlikely to
win any medals. Rowing obviously gets big numbers, and they
(10:09):
will need to prove that they deserve that funding. So
I think in terms of some sports there are you
always here from basketball people, for example, they don't get
enough money, and so if these sports that do get
a lot of funding don't live up to the hype
at these games, then those calls will come. I don't
think it's maybe as as as fervent as it used
(10:30):
to be in there regard. People used to get very
fired up about it. I don't know if it's quite
as bad as it is.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
You sad? You ready for the good news?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Rams? One national basketball title two in a row?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Oh? Yes, yes, I watched that used to fantastical stadium
going off and.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Lynwood Rugby got the christ Premier Competition yesterday as well,
three years I think, wasn't it, Yeah, nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Fantastic Just on your point of just on your point
of pressure from that, just if they can relate back
to Russell on Saturday. You know, Tane Randall's in the
huddle and once a captain, always a captain. But these guys,
whether it's charity game, whether it's a Test match, they
played to win and they never lose that attitude. I
was it was so fantastic to be that close to
(11:15):
those sorts of guys and playing with them. If I
can use that to him loosely, but Renny Ranger was
playing for his near him and was got a feel
all Blacks and those guys played to win whatever game
they're in. That never changes.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You know, that's one of the champions, and you are
in association with champions, so a little bit of that champion.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Could has raised given you a cool Yet well, I
did see Graham Henry later that night and he said
he said, I'd pick you in my team any days, Sam,
and I said, okay, Graham it's probably late at night, mate.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You can trust you're sure, but.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Just back to just back to Russell. What is stunning?
You know you guys, probably it's just stunning the place,
it's it's it's it's a Duke of Mars as good
as a good hospitality, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
If I if I put you on hold now, Sef,
can you tell yourself some more stories for another half house?
See how you go? Andrew Sevil the guy have held.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
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