Full Show Podcast: 14 August 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
Mic Hosking breakfast with the range rovervillare designed to intrigue
and use.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Togs that'd be bulling and welcome today. The Reserve Bank
and the hype around the call. Our tourism numbers are
still dire. We've got an electricity deal, but it's got
a lot of band aid about it. Politics Wednesday with
Mark and Jinny after right of course, Richard Arnold, Steve Price.
They do the business as well, Hosking. Welcome to the
middle of the week. So there's mad back and forward
between the commercial banks and the Reserve Bank gets another

(00:29):
outing today over whether our pain and misery is such
that we might just get some relief in the form
of a cash rate cut in the middle. Its poor
old us paying more than we ever have for just
about everything. Some worried about our jobs, those not worried
maybe having already lost them. The optimism sapped from us
years ago being reminded that in Q two, as in April,
May and June of this year and Q three i

(00:51):
e right now we are most likely yet again going
backwards economically, which would meet our third recession in a
couple of years, surely the worst economic rerec called of
any country we even remotely compare ourselves to the charge.
As far as banks goes seems to be led by
QBI Bank, who say cutting should already be underway. B
and Z no agree, ASB has changed their tune and
joined the cut now chorus. But only our old mate

(01:13):
Bradley Olsen of Infometrics is called it right all along.
They won't cut because they can't cut, because by cutting
now they'll be admitting to a mistake of gargantuan proportions. Because,
as he quite rightly points out, a lot of what
is happening, as ugly as it is, is exactly what
the Reserve Bank said would happen. In other words, it's
going to plan. Why would you up end your plan

(01:34):
if it's going to plan. And if you were looking
last week for those job numbers to change their mind,
the job numbers weren't as bad as many had thought.
The Reserve Bank has said many times they expect unemployment
to pek at five point five. It's a four point six,
lots more jobs to be lost. Yet not that you've
got to reach, of course, the end of the economic
road before you actually cut, but we're still a fair
way short according to their plan. No, none of this

(01:55):
is good. I get that, and yes, agreeing with retail
banks that it all sucks is easy. But pleading for
what you want and getting what you want are not
the same thing. And we will find this out later today.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Let's start with the war, which has taken a reasonably
dramatic twist with the Ukrainian incursion. The Foreign Minister arguing
this is still Ukraine, so they will not be entering Russia.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I can also emphasize here unlike Russia, Ukraine does not
need other people's territory. Ukraine is not interested in taking
over the territory of the Curse region, or we want
to protect the lives of our people.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
It turns out, are US delegations arrived and given all
the planes and the money they've panted over, are they
liking the looks of us? What I think about?

Speaker 5 (02:36):
Curse?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Bold, brilliant, beautiful, keep it up? Who started this?

Speaker 6 (02:44):
Are the war?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Lebanese? There are a bit miff the world isn't doing
enough to stop Israel reaching out beyond their borders.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
So we are very worried from the intentions of what
is happening by the Israeli government and the fact that
a lot of the international community to know in action
at least, and allowing.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
This then to brookly me yet again the system's failed victims.
So med men killed two last year in Nottingham. They
had a look at the Mental Health Service saying guess
what the reports is?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
It was so basic.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
The errors were not technical. There were basic, basic errors
and repeated.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Four times over. The new Health Secretary can do nothing
but agree.

Speaker 8 (03:24):
Had the NHS done its job, had there not been
multiple fundamental failures, three innocent people might still be alive.
And that's why I totally understand why that've accused the
NHS of having blood on its hands.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
And then in London benks hees Beck with work number nine,
this one on the gates of the zoo.

Speaker 9 (03:42):
What we do here is try to connect her in
some cases reconnect people with nature. By having this here,
we've drawn in so many extra people today and we're
able to then enable that connection.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'll come back to that moment. Finally, the Indianapolis Motor
Speedway Museum, they're selling eleven cars with Southwy's to raise
money to restore and care for the rest of the collection.
We've got some beautiful pieces here, very rare nineteen fifty
four Mercedes W one ninety six Streamline are driven by
Sterling mossnow less, you'll need one hundred million. A sixty
four Ferrari two to fifty LM one LA Modern nineteen

(04:16):
sixty five. That is a beautiful car. Fifty seven Chevrolet
Corbette SS project with a magnesium body. You've got a
sixty six four g T forty Mark two they reckon. Overall,
they're probably going to raise about one hundred and fifty
million US, so let's say three hundred million New Zealand
dollars later this year and into next year because they're
staggering the sales because you don't want to flood the
market with that sort of stuff all at once. Anyway,

(04:37):
that's news of the world in ninety seconds if you want,
by the way to season fighters. Probably CNN's got the
best looking photos of those particular cars. Banksy quickly they've confirmed.
He's confirmed it's the final, one, ninth and final image.
So what you've got go look it up again. I
still think the aquarium wins, but this one is very clever.

(04:59):
It's a gorilla lifting the shutter to release a sea lion,
and birds and other animals are looking on, and the zoos,
as you heard, delighted, and they're going to keep it
and preserve it. How they do that without it getting graffited.

Speaker 10 (05:13):
They've already put like a big sort of sea through
screen over the front of it in case somebody tries
to tomato zupid or something exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
And it's a brilliant piece of work. The whole nine
are brilliant pieces of work. But then I love Banksy.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
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Speaker 2 (05:33):
You've gone off about the IKEA thing. I'll come back
to that later on. By the way, some people say
that war is good for the economy. Not according to Fitch,
because Israel's credit rating has been downgraded over night Niggertive
out look from A plus down to A fifteen past.

Speaker 11 (05:45):
Six, Saletrong devon PUNEs Management, Greg Smith, Welcome to Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Thank you, Mike.

Speaker 12 (05:51):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
So depressing these numbers, I mean tourism and then me
and the migration worries me. Young people just leaving in droves.

Speaker 12 (05:58):
Absolutely, it's it's not good news. So near migration definitely,
calling seventy three thousand in the June twenty twenty four year.
That's down from a peak of one hundred and thirty
six thousand in October twenty twenty three. You look at
the monthly basis, it was twenty seven hundred and June.
That was below thirty four hundred in May, below the
four thousand before the pandemic, lowest monthly flows since August

(06:20):
twenty twenty two. So yeah, my going to arrivals can
continue to ease. You look at non New Zeon citizens
one hundred and twenty eight thousand and five hundred. There
was fifty thousand live in October twenty twenty three. But yeah,
the definitively bad news my departures of New Zealand citizens
record levels net fifty five to three hundred in the year.
For every Kiwi that we've got coming back to these shores,

(06:43):
we've got three leaving, have eighty thousand salt greener pastures,
particularly young ones. As you point out, thirty eight percent
range eighteen to thirty, So that brain drain continues. It's
not good, not good for our long term economic prosperity,
and not good news on the tourism front either. As
you point out visit arrivals up to seven percent to
three point two million in the year Jumnboiosi, US, China

(07:04):
and the UK have inspired the increase. It was seventeen
percent lower than the record for a junior three point
nine million twenty nineteen. So some countries might go back
towards pre COVID levels of US is Aussie isn't too
far off, but China at fifty five percent of pre COVID.
It's really interesting here. I mean, we're trying to just
agree to scrap visas for Kiwi visitors.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
We're sort of.

Speaker 12 (07:27):
Going in the other way. We're planning to increase visitor
visas by sixty one percent to three and forty one bucks.
So yeah, we're gonna get five and a million revenues
over the next four years, but you know, economy is
going to lose that on thousands for those that don't
come here. So you know, we're already doing it tough,
and we don't need to see tourism going backwards as well.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
No, we do not. And then we come to Australia
where you land and the wage growth. Wage growth number
is interesting, it's still reasonably high. But it's easy, isn't it.
The increases of there easing.

Speaker 12 (07:53):
Yeah, that's right, So a lot here dozzi. As we know,
the green of patires are getting a little bit less green.
So your wages rose point percent in the Dune quarter.
That was down from zero point nine per cent of
March mark and the IRBA that expected to hold steady
private sector wages grew by just zero point seven percent.
That's the last rise when he quarter since December twenty
twenty one annually grave at four point one percent, and

(08:16):
that followed three consecutive cars of four point two.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Percent public secte action.

Speaker 12 (08:20):
You must be pointed that's doing a bit better than
abend and salary caps put through pay increases in March
that was three point nine percent. But the private sector
definitely definitely a week also, so Squares of what Secrets things,
that's the biggest jobs portal.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
They said online.

Speaker 12 (08:33):
Paid advertisements on their platform was down twenty percent last year,
actually a quarter forty percent fall in earnings of downgraded guidance.
So yeah, job openings are still above pre bit ten
pandemic levels, but definitely moderating manually. You've got the unemployment
rate that's also client to four point one percent, and
I was like, that's also while the RBA, as we
know we talked about, has brought out rate cuts for

(08:55):
the next sort of six months, so you know, their
rates at four point three five, we're five and a
half year in the OCI. Maybe Agrian can do a
bit more of a favor here.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Today which home depot, what do they read? They had
a beat, but what are they telling us?

Speaker 12 (09:10):
Yeah, the downgraded the outlock, so she is up slightly.
I think that's also to do with the fact that
year numbers a week and you know, more a cause
for the feed cut rates. I suppose sort of adds
to that. Well, no more we get numbers from wal
Mart and all also likes of Target and also retail
sales numbers this week as well. But yeah, that sales
up point six percent forty three point two billion. Need
income fell one hundred million for the quarter four point

(09:33):
six billion. They said that customers have been defering projects
since twenty twenty three due to higher rates and just
basically putting off projects, but now it seems like customers
are doing so because of a sense of uncertainty around
the economy. So they expect comparable sales to climb by
three to four percent compared to the private school year,
and they had guide for just a one percent decline.

(09:55):
So things definitely calling as it relates to home improvement,
as it relates to deal white, they're still bullish about
the long term. They're saying that there's a shortage of
new homes and people will need to upgrade and so on.
But yeah, certain the customers are a lot more cautious
than they were.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Okay, numbers please s and.

Speaker 12 (10:11):
P five and up one and a half percent five
four two three, nere'stick cup two point one percent. The
there up point eight percent. So we've had good news
and inflation front with wholesale inflation up just zero point
one percent last month. That was that was half of
what expectations were. Only got the CPI tomorrow foots the
up point three percent UK wage growth at a two
year low. Unemployment rates also four Nick and your pen

(10:32):
did a catch up there there was up three and
a half percent three six two three two a six
two hundred up point two percent seven at twenty six
on the on those job numbers and reports, there and
wage growth.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Gone. Uh Grig Smith Devin Funds Management pasking the bill.
Either that or he hasn't got enough gas from methodics
yet and he hasn't hooked into the new power system.
Hello Fresh, by the way, which is an international company,
because of course we have Hello Fresh here. They actually
German based. A couple of things. One shares are up
over nineteen percent better than expected earnings, so people are

(11:05):
still buying the meals. What they're now buying is ready
made meals. So initially you got the pack like everybody else,
and you cooked it yourself. Now you got sick of that,
So revenue is up one point seven percent, so now
you're buying their ready made meal category. So they're reporting
good news and we're still into the convenience of life.
Six twenty one, Hered News Talk said Bo.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
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Speaker 3 (11:31):
At b Read.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
The numbers leaving the country. I'd like to know a breakdown.
I wonder what percentage of new immigrants who are leaving
for Canada, Australia c This is from disillusionment or as
part of a longer term plan. I know many doing
this Indians in particular. The numbers are all there, they're
readily available, and I've had them for you later. The
one we need to worry about, the New Zealander is leaving.
That's the major concern. Headline this morning, CNBC goes out

(11:54):
to the entire world headliners, people leave New Zealand in
record numbers as economy bites. That's the sort of reputation
we've got internationally, Mike. It's a hawkish twenty five basis
points today. Mark Smith at the ASP's provided the best analysis.
Thank you, Connell. I think you're wrong, but we'll see morning, Mike.
Ninety three percent. This goes back to carpeting the garage.
I'm going to spend the morning on this. Ninety three percent.

(12:17):
They obviously don't serve a R street my house, the
two on the left, the three on the right, and
the two on the other side of the street a
non carpet. I think it's nine point three percent. Ninety
three percent, Michael, Very good of you to know.

Speaker 10 (12:27):
Well, it must be pointed out that it was only Auckland,
Wellington and christ Church homes that were serving well, yeah,
those flesh Harrys and those big cities.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
It's only the people they went to, obviously, but it
seemed to me like a stunning number as a painting
contract to Mike and christ Church, I'm calling BS on
the ninety three percent of garages have carpet in them. Sorry, Mike,
that statistics, ninety three percent of garages capital in this
country is total BS. Ninety three percent of garages carpetal
is fake news, boy.

Speaker 10 (12:54):
I mean the other thing interesting thing about that status
that they were saying they weren't actually being used as
garages as well. But we know that I would, which
I found disappointing because my whole goal when I moved
to a house, I don't feel like I'm moved in
until I can pack both cars in their garage.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, but you and I are similar like that. I
like a garage as a garage, but most people aren't
like that. Boy. This is a whole program because we
will go to ten six twenty five trending.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Now with the squarehouse, you're one start for Father's Day.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Fragrances Village in Norfolk flag debate. They're trying to work
out whether to fly the Union jack. Some see it
these days as a bit divisive, so they go on
television GBTV. Aim and Holmes, is there you got a
royal historian, got an anti racism activist. Segment comes to
an end. They're about to throw to the break.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
But Aim and I'm not going to let you get
away with that one.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
If you will consider it the empathetic of everyone.

Speaker 11 (13:41):
Else and how they perceive the world, you might just
find yourself leading with the quality.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
So you know, I'll finish it there, absolutely something.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Please, you don't have to lecture me.

Speaker 11 (13:50):
No, I have to when you say things like that
with audio respect because I sit in the middle trying
to see both sides of things.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
Did you finish with mine?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Did you finish with mine? You finished with race?

Speaker 11 (13:59):
And this is a again I've finished with everyone. I'm
trying to say, you finished validating his point. In Northern Ireland,
flag represented something to the nical and empty to a
certain religion.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
Nor I did.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I had to liver just like with black people.

Speaker 11 (14:18):
You're not black, sir, and I understand racism more.

Speaker 6 (14:20):
Than your So that's that.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
So yesterday I raised on the program this business of
exporters seemed to be in the fishing industry, the business
of exporters not knowing and not ticking the appropriate box
on terror free deal. So we all know about the
UK deal terror free, we all know about the c
P T P p p x y Z no terroriffs,

(14:52):
and yet people are exporting fish don't seem to know
about it, so they continue years after still paying TERRORFT.
So I raised the question, what the hell is going on? Fortunately,
hopefully we have some answers and we'll do that after
the news, which is next to your at news Talk.

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Speaker 2 (15:24):
Not a snowballs chance in hell of a rake cut today,
our Reserve Bank governor likes his power too much, a
hangover from his days of hanging out eating sausage rolls
with Grant and Chippy. But on a serious note, I
think we're better to hold at five five a little
bit longer to avoid the risk of a rebound inflation.
That's his argument. To be fair to Adrian Orr, he
has been consistent. What I suspect will happen today? Is
he going to have a major turnaround in the language.

(15:47):
No cut, but the language will be something along the
time October November. I don't even know that he'll be
that specific because he'll be super scared of people going nuts. Anyway,
here's where we're at ASB twenty five point cut for
the subsequent announcements this year. So they're saying three twenty
five point cuts by the end of the year. We
acknowledge it as a lineball call B and Z pointing

(16:10):
to a drop. They can either cut now, they argue,
or wait and be forced into a fifty point cut
in November. No one wants to see that because that's
an admission of failure. A and Z they say a
hold today, Kiwi Bank, they've driven a lot of this.
They say it should already be cutting every meeting until
the OCR hits two point five, so that's a lot
of cutting. West Pac say they see a hold. So

(16:32):
that's where you're at. Steven Joyce on the matter after
seven o'clock the Trump one team, what a bus that
was yesterday, So we'll get the update from Richard Arden.
We'll get the reaction meantime back home. It seems odd,
but it was revealed at a recent seafood conference that
exporters are still paying tariffs on there are goods despite
the fact they can access the benefits of free trade deals.
In other words, they should be paying no tariffs at all,

(16:54):
but forty percent of them are paying unnecessary tariffs, for example,
to the UK. So what's going on here? Seafood and
CEO Lisa Footcheck is with us on this. Lisa, very
good morning to you.

Speaker 13 (17:05):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
This is the weirdest story, is it true?

Speaker 14 (17:09):
Look, it's not a.

Speaker 15 (17:10):
Weird story at all. We've uncovered the fact that it
appears that we are not taking full advantage of a
range of free trade agreements that m FAT has very
very successfully negotiated on our part. So we're in the
process of getting to the bottom of why that is
and to give ourselves the ability to sort it out.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Why would you not be taking full advantage?

Speaker 15 (17:32):
We absolutely should be taking full advantage, but we're just
trying to understand exactly where the problem lies. It appears
that it is not necessarily with our exporters, but at
the import end, because of course it's not our exporters
that pay the tariff, it's their import agents.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Right, So would if I export muscles. Do I know
who my import agent is and do I deal with
them on a regular basis? And would I say something like, hey,
by the way, you do realize where are free Would
that level of communication be going on or not?

Speaker 15 (18:04):
Look, presumably it is, but I think it's probably fair
to say that it's a little bit more complicated than that,
because of course we're dealing with multiple species, probably an
excess of one hundred that we export to one hundred
and ten different markets, and obviously those are exported by
a full range of exporters. So it's a little bit
more complicated, Mike, and we're just getting to the bottom

(18:26):
of understanding exactly where the problem lies.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Because what wouldn't your average person who's exporting know about
the free trade deal with Britain and know about the
CBTPP for example. I mean, that's in the news. It's
all it's part of what we do.

Speaker 15 (18:38):
Yes, that's correct. We do know about that, and to
the best of our knowledge, we were accessing it, and
to be honest, we're not entirely sure the extent to
which we're not, which is why we are talking to
m Fat. We are working at pace to understand the problem.
So that we can help our members to access it
and get the full benefit of those egeries.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
So when the bloke from NB was at this conference
and he estimates m fat em it estimates forty percent
of exporters to the UK, for example, still paying a terriff,
you have no idea whether that's correct or not.

Speaker 15 (19:07):
So look, that's correct. We do need to validate the statistics,
and some of this information is of course commercially sensitive,
So we're just working with m FACT to understand where
the issue lies and hopefully by the end of the
week will be in a much better position to understand
what that is and how we can help our exporters
take full advantage of these FTAs well.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Without looking to upset you so early in the morning.
Is this partially on you in terms of you're not
communicating with your industry, or is it on them and
they're not communicating with you who aren't communicating with their industry,
or is it the fisherman's fault who should know what's
going on?

Speaker 16 (19:43):
Well, look at the.

Speaker 15 (19:43):
Stage, Mike, we're just not a portioning blame anywhere. We
want to understand the issue so that we can address it.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
All right, Listen, we'll get you back on. When you
do you reckon. By the end of the week you
might have something.

Speaker 15 (19:55):
I think by the end of the week we will
be closer. But I'd be very happy to come back
on once we undert and what the issue was and
how we're seeking to a tress.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Fantastic love to talk to you again, Lisa foot Check,
who is the Seafood New Zealand CEO. It just seems
boring on inconceivable to me that as an exporting nation
we're not on top of the exporting rules, or am
I being unfair? I mean I've already given you a
dodgy garage information this morning, so from who the hell
knows what's going on nineteen minutes away from seven past,
it might time to get off the glass barbecue and

(20:26):
just think about what you're saying. Mate, don't shoot the messenger.
I didn't make this up. This is a survey. There
is no way it is even close to fifteen to
twenty percent. We build are involved with twenty five houses
a year currently struggling in the market, and only one
of these houses last year had carpet the gash. Were
you building poor people's houses? Mate?

Speaker 10 (20:43):
Or it might not be in Wellington, christ It's sure
up one, yeah, I mean, it wasn't the only thing
that they surveyed.

Speaker 17 (20:48):
Of course.

Speaker 10 (20:49):
The other statistic that I found interesting was that thirty
six percent of us sometimes dance or sing when no
one's around.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
I would have thought it was higher than that.

Speaker 10 (20:57):
Well, that's actually higher than the global average of thirty five.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
And I would have had it at sixty or seventy percent.
I think there's a lot of people just pretending they
don't sing and dance, or don't realize they're singing.

Speaker 10 (21:05):
In the first thing I did when we first got
our first garage carpet, this rich.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Person will you? But it was the thing. It was
quite reasonable, it didn't cost that. That's why we was
so we were so happy about it.

Speaker 10 (21:19):
We went down there and just danced and saying on it.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Oh man, have you been Have you just come back
from the Melfie Coast as well? On your yacht? Goodness sake?
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in the mornings they would roll up the sleeping match,

(23:30):
so there was nothing for him to sleep on during
the day, just that stone floor.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Then, a couple of.

Speaker 19 (23:34):
Weeks back, as he thought this was going to be
his life for another two and a half decades, the
prison bosses took him to their office and demanded that
he write an official statement in praise of Vladimir Putin. Well,
he refused to be any part of that.

Speaker 20 (23:48):
He said, no, I'm never going to write this. They
said why not, I said all. First of all, because
I do not consider Vladimir Putin to be a legitimate president.
I consider him to be a dictator, a usurper, and
a murderer whose personally responsible for the death of his
political opponents.

Speaker 19 (24:03):
These guys have some guts, don't they. Karen Mrsam had
been friends with Raution opposition leader Alexi Navonni, who died
in prison in the most suspicious circumstances back in February.
The prison guards then came to get Kara Murza a
few days on after this office encounter, and he thought
that he was just about to be murdered as well.

Speaker 20 (24:22):
They said that I had ten minutes to get up,
get dressed, and get ready, and I was absolutely certain
of that moment that I was going to be let
out and get executed.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Ten minutes to execution.

Speaker 19 (24:32):
Well, they didn't kill him. Instead, they took him off
to the local airport in Omsk in his underwear.

Speaker 20 (24:38):
They don't have any words to express how it feels
when you spent nearly a year in solitary confinement, just
setting in a tiny cell on your own, day after day,
not being able to speak to anyone, not being able
to go anywhere, not being able to do anything, and
suddenly find yourself in the middle of a busy passenger airport.

Speaker 19 (24:55):
We on experience. Just a few hours later, he was
flown on to Germany, which was because part of that
international prisoner swap. Then a call came in from Joe Biden,
US President, Joe Biden, who was with this man's young daughters.

Speaker 21 (25:12):
Well, no one is strong enough for this. I was
sure I'm going to die in prison. I don't believe
what's happening. I think it's a I still think I'm
sleeping in my prisons instead of hearing your voice.

Speaker 19 (25:23):
So that was the moment, Mike surreal, He says, what
an instant. As he notes, there are still hundreds of
political dissidents locked away by Putin and code.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
What are the reviews on yesterday's effort?

Speaker 19 (25:34):
Well, what box do you put this in? Political Chatter
was hardly an interview between the political candidate and the
world's richest man, Elon, who'd already endorsed him. So this's
not journalism. Once there chat got going forty minutes late,
Elon must praise Donald Trump for his many tweets during
his presidential term. That would be the main point right

(25:55):
before Trump was a ban then invited back to Twitter
or x Now. I got a call today. But the
audio quality of this Trump thing was so bad that
he was heard slurring words and speaking with a lisp,
according to some listeners. I mean maybe after Malfi, you know,
Glenn could go. I don't know, just a thought, but
here is part of the Trump plea for Jewish voter support.

Speaker 22 (26:15):
I say, if you're a Jewish person, or if you
believe in Israel, if you're a person that you know
is very pro Israel, if you vote for her, it's
worse than Biden.

Speaker 19 (26:26):
If you're a person who yeah, whatever, maybe his zedb
engineering could offer some assistance here. Anyway, there was little
new in the two hours of this. Also, on education,
Trump spoke of the idea of abolishing the federal Education Department.

Speaker 22 (26:40):
I want to close up Department of Education, move education
back to the states where states like Iowa, where states
like Idaho. You know, not every state will do great,
So sorry.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Idaho, Sorry Iowa.

Speaker 19 (26:55):
You know not everyone can do great.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
They all right, man, Nice to see you. Richard Arnold's
there's a poll out to someone that trying to sprout
this morning. And if you know anything about Florida, it's
it's B's USA Today and Suffolk University. The headline is
KRMLA Harris's within striking distance of Trump in Florida. The
numbers forty seven to forty two. Trump leads. But because
there's a four point four percent margin of era, they

(27:18):
say she's quote unquote within striking distance. History of Florida
is fifty to fifty. No one wins Florida by a
mile more minutes away from.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
The Mike hosting Racist with the range Rover Villain newss
B the Move Mike.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
The plumbing company Franklins went into receivership yesterday. They joined
the growing list of iconic companies closed down or ruined
by the labour made recession. Fly by Smith and Coe
deval lay by many others. I'm a business owner. It
is dark times out there. I hope Adrian Or has
some light at the end of the tunnel for us
all today, Mike, I'm working out of my carpeted garage
in Canterbury right now. You're on you, Mike. I put

(27:52):
carpet into my car sheds in every home I've lived in,
including the last rental property I owned, wouldn't be without it,
especially sitting on the floor cleaning mags on the k Exactly,
if you're sitting on the floor cleaning your mags, you
need the luxury of a bit of carpet, don't you.
Five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
All the ins and the ouse.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
It's the fizz with business favor take your business productivity
to the next level.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Speaking of the economy, data up from the UK this
morning around jobs there are four points six We are,
by the way, four point six percent jobless, Reserve Bank
aiming for five point five and that's part of today's
equation of course, So in other words, there needing to
see more people lose their jobs, and Britain things are
getting a little bit better. Q two unemployment rate down
to four point two from four point four. So there
four point two is our four point six wage growth

(28:37):
good but slowing, and your rate of five point four percent,
which is the weakest it's been for the last two years,
just gives you an indication as to how bad it's
been in terms of inflationary. I mean the more people
you pay, I mean people love getting a pay rise,
but of course it's all inflationary. Number of job vacancies
fell by twenty six thousand, which is nothing, of course
in a country of sixty six million, But a lot

(28:58):
of these numbers come with a bit of a caveat.
Economic analysts say that the job market continues to call
because of redundancies and those who aren't looking for work.
Britain has a huge problem. We've talked about it with
Rod before. Just the number of people who sit on
their bum waiting for the next riot collecting welfare is
an astonishing figure in Britain. Plus, the Office to National
Stats also admits that the survey where they get the

(29:20):
data from, has had a smaller number of respondents over
the past year than usual, so it could be slightly skewed.
Bank of England cut last month. They're down at five
percent of course, so on the economy, we'll talk to
Stephen Joyce about what he's seeing at the moment and
whether or not it's just a fascinating thing, the contrast
and the angst between retail banks, between US and the

(29:42):
Reserve Bank, and so what adrianaw says today is critical
and that will be the takeout. It won't be the
number or the non move, because there won't be a
move unless of course we're wrong. It'll be the commentary
as to where he's heading, where he thinks he's heading,
and he's going to have to pull back dramatically because
currently officially he's not cutting until next year. And I
don't know that anyone, not even Adrian or believes that

(30:05):
that's still tenable now. So we'll have a look at
this in the next half hour of the program. And
part of the problem over all, of course is tourism.
Yet more numbers yesterday that indicate yet again we are
still not back to where we should be, or still
to come. On the My Costing Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
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Speaker 2 (30:31):
Being seven past seven. So today's Reserve Bank announcement almost
has a heavyweight fight commentary by way of lead up,
doesn't it. The expectations bean sproved the potential for disappointments,
reel the second guessings gone, next level retail banks and
mixed between a cut, there should be a cut, there
won't be a cut? Are there we? No cut at all?
Former Finance Minister Stephen Joyce's with us. Very good morning
to you, morning Mike, how are you so very well?

(30:52):
Two part question? What should he do? What will he do?

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Okay? What should he do? Well? The question is I
just do it this way. Two things. One is he'll
be worried about on the one side, non tradable inflation
and potentially having to backtrack later, So that's the sort
of hawkish approach. On the other side, all the dials
are looking at a pretty flat economy, if not further declining.

(31:20):
You've got a lot of stuff around the country of
businesses really struggling, and you've got this energy thing coming
in now, which is going to have a significant impact
on economic activity in the second half of the year,
not perhaps broadly across the economy, but in particular areas
of the country like Taranaki, and so yeah, there are

(31:43):
the two things he and the committee are weighing up.
My personal view is that we are there, I e.
It's now time to make a cut, but I'm not
convinced he will.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Okay, will he run some commentary that gives a very
very clear indication that next years business is now this
year's business and he'll be going before Christmas.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
I think what will happen is he'll either do a
cut and be hawkish he is twenty five's point two
five but you know things are still on an ipge
out there and don't expect anymore necessarily this side of Christmas.
Or he'll go the other way and say, well, we're
not doing anything yet, but you know things are coming
under control that we would expect to do. And I

(32:25):
think that in practice the two things would be the same, right,
because it's it's sentiment and the presence or otherwise of
a point two five cut. And I think he's going
to try, you know, whichever way he goes on that,
you know, the ultimate outcome in terms of interest rate track,
I don't think will be that much difference in practice.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Is this a bulls up.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
I think, well, I think it's trying to fix the
balls up that that was there a couple of years ago.
Absolutely not unique to the New Zealand Reserve Bank, by
the way, but I think the world said or banks
got together and talked too much and ballsed up the
second half of the COVID response. Absolutely, And that's why we're.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
For a little bit of commentary yesterday suggesting this monetary
committee doesn't help what we need of votes. Would you
agree with that or not?

Speaker 5 (33:14):
I think you know, we're getting into the USI of
how they talk around the table. He could have votes,
but I don't think in practice it will make much difference.
It's a small committee.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Okay, if he goes today, does he not have to
go again and again. Isn't that the theory that once
you start, you've said it's done, we've done enough, Off
we go, as opposed to well I'll do some now
and I might come back another day. That doesn't look right,
does it.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Well, he's got he's got to worry about two things.
On the on the on the potential for resurgion inflation,
this non tradable inflation, which basically comes back a lot
to wage rates, and he'll be worried about igniting interest
and increased wages. When I say increase wages, so that's

(34:00):
inflationary increase rather than a productivity increase. And he'll be
worried about the housing market. So kiwis are great at
buying houses. We've been really quiet for the last two years,
last year in a bit, and he will be worried
to do boy to say, all right, well we're away,
let's rush out and buy some houses off each other

(34:20):
and push up house prices and feel good and start
spending money again and go too far. So I think
that's why I think he'll be if he even does
a cut. If they do a cut today, I think
they'll still be quite hawkish because they will be worried
about people just saying, oh, it's all over now, we
just go back to what we were doing before.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Exactly Jesus. It's interesting. Doesn't Stephen appreciate time as always?
Former Finance Minister Stephen Joyce eleven past seven pask average.
Of course, this afternoon he related to this. Every time
the tourism stats release, we're reminded yet again of how
far short of where we need to be we actually are. Visit.
The arrivals are still seventeen percent down on pre pandemic levels.
This is back twenty nineteen, for goodness sake. There's some
growing angst as well around the cost of visas. Visas

(34:59):
are going up to the hundred and forty one dollars
visitors visa. That is, that's up by sixty one percent.
Tourism Holdings Incorporated CEO Grant Webster back, will this Grant,
very good morning to you. And you if you were
to guess where the tourism market is that from your
expertise and experience, would you say it is still down
on COVID you can seal it, see it, feel it.

Speaker 17 (35:17):
Oh well and truly yeah, yeah, I mean we've seen
some good growth men, there's some growth still to come.
And the fear is definitely that we're losing competitiveness on
a global basis.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Well, and they just said that because, I mean, we've
all talked about China, but China's an individual story. Australia
is at eighty six percent of what it was a
Britain seventy three percent. Why aren't we attractive?

Speaker 14 (35:38):
Well?

Speaker 17 (35:39):
I think I think part of it is there is
the marketing dollar, right I mean, if you look at
tourism Australia and take the three big states New South Wales, Victoria, Queensland,
they combined have got around eight hundred million and spend.
So that's that's that's on a per capita basis, that's
like fifty percent more than us in New Zealand, and
we are less than one percent, well less than one

(36:00):
percent market share and tourism on a global basis. So
we've got to be more competitive. We've got to invest,
we've got to get our money out there and show
what we're about and get people back. It's not going
to just happen, which is the sense I have at
the moment that people think, oh it's okay things, people
will just come exactly.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
So your argument is if we told the story, we're
still good enough to get the people here. It's just
we're not telling the story, as opposed to even if
we told the story, they don't want to come anyway.

Speaker 17 (36:28):
Well, I think I think tours of my view, Tourism
New Zealand is doing a good job of telling the
story with what they've got. They need some more. But
more importantly, right at the moment, we've seen a removal
of funding for events and events of what kept winter
alive apart from ski obviously, you know, we've seen issues
with the cruise industry for next year with boats not

(36:48):
coming through at the same extent. And then what we've
seen is, as you said, visitors costs going up, visa
visitors going up, working holiday visas going up even more,
and threats of IBL So it's time to put the
foot on the throat or not on the throat, and
let's let's fuel the tourism industry, not block it.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
So you argue the visa thing is material, it would
make a difference to people's decision.

Speaker 17 (37:15):
It does. Demanding Leicester City at the border is real.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Wow. See I'd argue differently based on the fact that
the dollars and the toilet. Therefore, I mean, you take
your forty eight forty nine US cents and you can
get here. I mean that's not bad going. Are we
too expensive.

Speaker 17 (37:30):
At the border when we look at other countries removing
visa costs and when we look at the relativity of
New Zealand to other competing destinations, that's the point. They're
not just going to come and pay whatever they look
and compare just as we do around the world, right,
and so it does make a difference. We end up
being four or five hundred dollars more expensive than we

(37:50):
were last week, and it makes a difference.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Good insight. Grant appreciate it very much. I'm wrong. I
apologize for that. I wouldn't have thought it was a major,
but clearly it isn't. He's an expert and I'm not so.
I we'll need to talk to Erica Stanford, who's behind
all of that, of course, but when you look at
the numbers, Australia eighty six percent of what it was,
Britain seventy three percent, China fifty five, they're their own story.
The only people who are playing the ball or playing
the game of the US who are back to one

(38:13):
hundred and three percent and twenty nineteen, as I keep
reminding you, is now five years each and every year
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty three, twenty five. We're losing each
and every year. And it was our second, if not
our biggest, foreign income earner. Fifteen past seven.

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Speaker 2 (38:34):
At b seventeen past seven. So the band aid for
the power crisis seems to be this deal between methodics
and contact and genesis, so methodics basically and a closer
operation to locksover sell their guest at the power companies. Anyway,
the Major Electricity Users Group chair John Harborder is with
us on this.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
John Morning, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's it a little bit band aid, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 14 (38:53):
I think it's definitely a short term solution like to
help us get it through the current situation we're in,
but obviously it doesn't address any longer term issues we
have with energy supply or the electricity market.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
And as part of that announcement yesterday, the coal side's
being bumped up as well as coal readily available gets
here quick enough and we can fire up hunt lead
to full capacity.

Speaker 14 (39:12):
We're certainly importing large amounts of coal at the moment.
We've exhausted a number of our sort of domestic stock
pile of coal, so we are having to import it
in pretty large amounts. But the ports seem to be
coping with it really well, so pretty relaxed on that front.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Is ling G going to be a thing at all?
From the government's point of view, Is anything in that
department going to happen to you know or.

Speaker 14 (39:31):
Not, well if I don't know, but I think the
government will be looking at all options. And people in
the market or in the sector have been looking at
LNG as an option for a few years now, so
I would imagine the government's looking at it.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
So will this deal announced yesterday fix us spring arrives,
demand goes down and we're through it for another winter?
Is that fair or a bit simplistic?

Speaker 14 (39:52):
I think that's overly optimistic. Mic. There's no guarantee we're
going to get an influx of rain in the hydro lakes.
We certain that will be the case, and longer term
as well. Simply, our gas fields have less gas in
them than we thought, and that's not a short term
solution to that. We've either got to explore more and
find more, or we're going to have to import it.

(40:13):
It's one of sort of the weird things about being
more and more reliant on wind and solar is that
actually makes you more and more reliant on gas and coal. Exactly,
you use less of the gas and coal, but you
need it even more. And that's the crunks we're facing
right now.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Are methodics stiffing us? I mean, they say it's going
to increase their income on Q three Q four, which
indicates to me that they've sold it to us at
a rate that they can't sell it internationally. Yes, they're
laughing all the way to the bank.

Speaker 14 (40:39):
Well coman, I think I imagine the benefiting from it.
But I think also it's important to realize that we
absolutely need method X to do what they've done, alongside
a range of other things. So you've got the aluminium
smelter at Tea Wy for instance, has substantially reduced its
production to free up electricity. You've had transpower freeing up

(41:02):
the reserves we keep in the hydro lakes were times
of emergency. So when you combine sort of those three
things across, that will actually make I think a pretty
good difference over the next few months.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Good stuff. John presciat the Insight, John Harbor, who's the
major electricity users group, So we don't have enough power,
everyone's leaving, the tourist aren't arriving. Cool Morning eighth, seven twenty.

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too much with Chemist Warehouse ski tive and twenty four
my least favorite data dump yesterday. This business. Firstly, the
tourism that we've been talking about yet again reminds me
how when I was asking well and excess of a
year ago, where the hell all the people were? No
one seemed to care or hear me. Fast forward eighteen months,
with the number stuck at about eighty percent of what
they were five years ago. The industry, I read now,

(42:34):
is but worried. Why weren't they worried when I was worried?
Why does it take so many so long to wake
up to what's actually staring them in the face. But
they're not as bad as the migration figures also out yesterday.
We are still leaving this country in record numbers. I
mean overall we are gaining people, yes, but the people
are coming in from China and Dafiji and the Philippines,
which is not being racist at all, but it is

(42:55):
questioning just what sort of skills they're bringing. How great
is the cultural balance being effect by us leaving in
them arriving. The reason I hate the departure numbers so
much is severalfold one. They're mainly the young. Not good
for our future too. It isn't stopping. I mean, having
people scarper isn't new, but having them scarper continually for
such a long period is Places like Wellington are being

(43:17):
hollowed out as the young leave, but the arrivals land
in places like Auckland. So overall we're not replacing like
with like. But the thing that irks me most is
the credibility issue. We look like crap, We look like
a bad party, We look like Nigel Nomades. Our rep
is rubbish. New Zealanders look around month after month after
month after month and say, you know what, I don't

(43:38):
want to be here anymore. I don't like it here.
I like it over there, and over there is mainly Australia,
of course, and I've never liked losing to Australia. I mean,
I don't mind people leaving. I don't mind competing. It's
free and open world. But I think that is part
of the issue. Are we competing? Are we competitive as
a country? What do we actually offer? What's compelling about

(43:59):
New Zealand and twenty twenty four see numbers don't lie.
Immigration is often driven by the wanderlust of youth. This
is more than wanderlust. This is dislike. This is no future,
this is despair. We are bleeding and people are talent,
and our talent's leaving of all the damage Laboured did
to this country forcing its young people out might historically

(44:21):
be shown to be the most ruinous thing of all
husky my grant Webster's half right. New Zealand's not good
value anymore. Five hundred dollars for a crappy three star
hotel in Queenstown and peak Sea's and huge cost of
activities and meals. David, You're actually wrong on that in
the sense Queenstown's above. COVID's the only place in the country.
It's above, so it's doing better one than everywhere else

(44:42):
in the country, but two than it did in COVID.
So people are flocking to Queenstown. Price or not my
cosit the tourism presentation yesterday and WHYITANGI they've decided to
start focusing on non peak times instead of peak times.
When are we so far behind and facing and increased
tourism landing charges for international visitors? Why change to an
improven approach not unproven the trans seasonal approach, as I

(45:03):
see in the program a couple of weeks ago, when
they announced that there's nothing new in that they've done
it before. They're trying to turn the same old trick new.
I've got garage carpet Mike and my garages and workshops
in my last four houses. It's as essential as a
nice beer and a good wine. If I had to,
I'd drop the house carpet and stay with it in
my man's areas.

Speaker 10 (45:24):
I don't know that went weird at the end there,
I see, Ik, I also serve a people about growing
their own fruit and vegetables.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
That's an astonishing number, wasn't it. Did you not find
that number astonishing?

Speaker 10 (45:34):
Did you find it astonishingly low?

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Or large? I thought it was way higher than I
would have guessed. But what a number? What a what
a tease, Glenn. I think we'll have to extrapolate that
out a little bit further after the news, which is
next here, news talks.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
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Speaker 2 (45:59):
That'd be this ikea survey that we've hooked into this
morning with the ninety three percent of garage carpets around
the country. So, just to be fair to them, don't
shoot me the messenger. I'm just report. This is just
a piece of reportage. They've gone around the country. This
sample size, isn't I wouldn't have thought particularly high they've
got five or six hundred people, but they have gone
round to the people. As Lynn's pointed out, it's an Auckland,

(46:20):
Wellington and christ judge. Broadly speaking, it's designed to inform
them as to where we're at with our houses, what
we think of our houses, what's in our houses, how
they should stock the New Zealand Ikea shops, all that
sort of stuff. Anyway, a couple of critical things I
haven't come to yet. No will in a moment. But
his reference to vegetables, I've just done it on the Boss,
and I like doing it on the Boss. No one's

(46:41):
more out of touch with the real world than Jason.
So I said, how much.

Speaker 10 (46:44):
It's weird because you know, you think it's you, and
then and then you talk to him always and you go, oh, man,
so normal.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Exactly. So I said to Jace, I said, Jace, I said,
how many people you can grow their own vegetables? And
he said twenty, which is not a bad guess I would.
I guess it would be the guests of most people.
Most people are going twenty to thirty. And then I
said wrong, and he went ten, and I went wrong.
He goes the other way. I said, yes, and it
is thirty five percent. So, in other words, in excess

(47:12):
of a third of us grow vegetable.

Speaker 10 (47:15):
I mean that doesn't mean that you're growing all your vegetables.
You're not, you know, the good lifing it out there. No, no, no,
But I've got a chili plant, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
You're not counted one pot with a chili pe. Yeah,
saying so if I asked you, do you grow your
own vegetables, you'd say yes.

Speaker 10 (47:29):
But it has a massive effect on our meals when
I put those slice those fresh chilies in there.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Okay, I'm now starting to call bs on the server.
Twenty two minutes away from eight Politics Wednesday for Late
Mark Mitchell Jinny Anderson. Meantime, the much telegraphed shake up
of Marie government departments has finally been revealed sort of,
the Government's looking to streamline the functions of the Office
for Marie Crown Relations and the Ministry for Marie Development
down The Marorray Crown Relations Minister is, of course Tima Potuka,

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who is with us. A very good morning to you.

Speaker 13 (47:58):
It's got a mic and it's a beautiful gay and
cntiquetd Or Hamilton.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
I Reckon is it actually been announced or has this
sort of been leaked in by a thousand cuts through
leaked emails and stuff like that.

Speaker 13 (48:10):
Bo, there's been a bit of distribution prior to the
announcement that we've announced it. We're really focused on supporting
Mati economic and social success and dealing to treaty claims.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
So is this about efficiencies? Essentially?

Speaker 5 (48:22):
It is.

Speaker 13 (48:23):
There's a bit of confusion and a bit of duplication
across the public sector in these matters, but we're really
focused on making sure we get mighty developments from a
government perspective back gone track.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Okay, So the Office of Maori Crown Relations only deal
with treaty.

Speaker 13 (48:35):
Settlements, right, That's what we want to happen. It's out
of the TV office to deal with treaty sentiments and
tuckery time warn or customary marine title issues and then
to putting Corkey get up for future focus around economic
and social developments and other matters.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Given that, as you explain, it makes perfect sense why
the angst.

Speaker 13 (48:54):
Ah there's a lot of concern with what's been going
on the context of how we're engaging on treaty related
and MARY issues don't pretty firm and certainly, and my
soundings with EU and Marty leaders throughout the country, they
want their confusion sorted. They don't want ambiguity in this space,
and neither do our New Zealanders generally.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Are their job losses involved, Well, it's a.

Speaker 13 (49:12):
Matter to be dealt with with Public Service Commissioner and
the chief executives. What's really clear to me is that
there is a little bit of duplication. But if I
look at all the credible, positive, successful marti businesses and
social services providers and say, okay, how can we really
supercharge them to do the jobs that they need to do.
And in the meantime said all the outstanding treaty claims
like napoo and more chiparts here.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Right when you say NAPOOI, it just it triggers me.
How long are we going to have treaty settlements going for?

Speaker 13 (49:39):
Well, there are some outstanding courses lead about seventy percent,
but the historic ones we really want to deal with
them within the next five or six years. But Miss
Goldsmith ultimately in charge of that matter.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Indeed, but it seems odd that fifty years on from
the White Tangi Tribunal, we're still sitting here talking about
and having infrastructure funded by the taxpayer to argue over
treaty settlements that probably should have been settled twenty thirty
or forty years ago.

Speaker 13 (50:05):
Well, that's part part of why we're really focused on
making sure this office, the Office of Mighty Crown Relations,
is really dedicated to dealing to the remaining treaty settlements
so then we can get on into that future development
space that I'm so enthusiastic about, and with gdppre capital,
which is where we need to be.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Right, what do you reckon the Reserve Bank's going to
do today?

Speaker 13 (50:26):
Oh, no comment, no comment. I have a mortgage, so
let's see how that goes.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Okay, have you got carpet any garage?

Speaker 13 (50:33):
Carbon carpet carpet? No, No carpet in my garage you had?

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Have you ever had a carpeted garage?

Speaker 13 (50:40):
No, I've never had one of those, and sometimes I
even had a garage either.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Well, there you go. If I asked you what percentage
of garages in this country are carpeted, what would you say?

Speaker 13 (50:51):
One out of six.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Ninety three plus ninety three percent are carpeted. Are carpeted?

Speaker 13 (50:58):
I'm in the lucky seven percent. Good.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, it has to talk to you Tom A Tammer potaka,
who's the married Crown relations minister. We're going to have
to get ikere on. I think I even I don't
see the ninety three percent as a real number. I
see the thirty five percent is a bit of a
surprise on the fruit vigul. We's a better hit a
sting here, Glenn, just to just to keep the program
of Scared we Go. Renovations we see are lengthy and expensive.

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I'd agree with that, So let's work through this this
thing they've done. Forty three percent of us want to
be able to use our home to bring an extra income.
So what we're talking about is rental apartment subdividing our land,
converting spare rooms downstairs, conversions granny flats into Airbnb's, that
sort of stuff. So forty three percent of us want
to do that. Now, that doesn't indicate we are just

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says we want to, So that doesn't sort of mean anything.
As far as I can work out. Fifty nine percent
of us say our home, our home is our favorite place.
That's nice, isn't It's a good sign. Eighty eight percent
have crowded entrance with That was my other figure that
I found most fascinating. Eighty eight percent of our entrance
ways are crowded.

Speaker 10 (52:04):
Why we've got a fish that lives an area.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Well's see, that's your fault, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (52:09):
So that's definitely I feel like it's too crowded every
time I go down there.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah, no fish looking at me. That's a poor decision
on your part.

Speaker 10 (52:15):
Basically, I don't know that I necessarily made that decision.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Forty eight percent have challenges in kitchen storage. Half half
of us have challenges in kitchen storage. That just means
we have too much crap, doesn't it, bags, coats, hats, prams, keys.
That's why your entranceway because that's what you dump in
the entrance way and fish, So bags, coats, fish, hats, prams, keys,
no obvious place to go. Dream renovations A kitchen storage

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is the big frustration, not only in the kitchen, but
also the bathroom. Thirty one percent of people struggle with
storage in the kid's bedroom. It's because your kids got
too much crap. Ninety three percent of garages are carpeted,
that's what it says. Thirty five percent grow vegetables, fifty six.
This is the other number that really actually, I'll tell
you this one after the break. This is the one
that blew my mind. Sixteen to eight.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
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Speaker 2 (53:08):
It'd be here we go, Mike. I owned Skyline Garages.
In our nearly seventy years of business and over one
hundred thousand buildings constructed, I've never heard of a customer saying, now,
let's talk about garage carpet. That's Skyline. You can't argue
with Skyline.

Speaker 10 (53:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, But just because you don't have it
when the garage is built doesn't even make count.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Yeah I did. I did my last more exactly, Mike.
Most likely ninety three percent of new builds with garages
are choosing carpet for the garage. Ninety three percent of
all is nonsense. Well look you take on, Ike, don't
don't blame me. It's like it's like I've started something here.
It's not my fault, Mike. I've been in real estate
for over thirty years in Wellington. No way even fifty
percent of garages a carpeted. No Wellington, I wouldn't be

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surprised because a lot of garages are a bit weird
and Wellington with the steps up on a house in
Garory had a house down there had a garage down
the bottom. Certainly wasn't carpet it because I ate eight
hundred stars to get up to the house, Mike Bull crap,
I'm a real estate agent. No way, even forty percent
have carpet in the garage. And that's even generous. Wags
in your wags, right, I.

Speaker 10 (54:07):
Think it's a blip. It's a blip, isn't it? Like
any survey, especially of that size. It's five hundred and six.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
People know you're going it's a statistical era. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (54:16):
I'm not questioning the fact that of those people, ninety
three percent of them hair garage carpet.

Speaker 17 (54:22):
I'm sure that's that. It was true.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
They just have an unusual sample.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Or maybe in the taypo and the press release it's
actually thirty nine nine point three Yeah, could be. Here's
the number that really blew me away. Fifty six percent
prefer to air dry over half the country. It's a
clothes line, Sam, Sam's looking at me, game. What's that?
It's a closed line, Sam? Look up here?

Speaker 10 (54:43):
Sam, just Jack reaches it. He just checks the clothes
out and puts a new new set on.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Rips a t shirt off, unpacks another one, and Mum
minds them still too, doesn't she, which is nice. Of
fifty nine fifty six percent prefer to air dry. But
for that, and this is why I'm calling BS on
this as well. For this, you need a dryer, No,
you don't. You need a washing line? And how many
people actually have a washing line? Have the ability of

(55:09):
a washing line? Or if we all gone out and
bought a clothes horse, well.

Speaker 10 (55:13):
No, most people have close horses, don't they would they
have a close horse. But also, just because you prefer
to do it, doesn't mean that you are.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
That's it, And that's the other point. I think that
that's perfect.

Speaker 10 (55:22):
We'd all prefer to have a lovely air dried towel
or shit.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
But would we prefer Adrian or to cut the interest
rate today?

Speaker 6 (55:29):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (55:29):
We would. Is it going to happen? Not necessarily? I
think that's the I way of looking things, isn't it?
Ten minutes away from eight.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
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Speaker 2 (55:41):
From mus Skimmer is one of new Zealand's leading sports administrators.
Of course, former Black six captain Sport New Zealand Chief executive.
He's got a new job to use sport to achieve
government objectives, whether it be politically, economic or social. Peder
Mus skimmers with us. Peter. Morning to you, Mike. How
are you very well? Indeed are you just back from
the Olympics am and did you in your new capacity

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achieve anything?

Speaker 13 (56:05):
Yeah, there was a lot.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
Clearly.

Speaker 23 (56:08):
I think our performance in Paris just reinforced just the
international currency that we have at the moment in terms
of respect for us and what we do, and so
we're able to use that and provide opportunities where we
could host a lot of you know, dignitaries from overseas
to build that government government relationships. You know, companies in

(56:30):
New Zealand using the New Zealand House as a platform
to host their customers and suppliers. So using these sorts
of events to leverage in a way that as more
to New Zealand both you know, economically and politically.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
And how do you literally do that in your job
as opposed to anyone just putting on an event at
New Zealand House, having a bunch of athletes they were
and having a good time.

Speaker 23 (56:51):
Well that that that can be done. But the idea here.

Speaker 13 (56:54):
Is to be very deliberate about it.

Speaker 23 (56:55):
It's working across government and finding where, you know, which
are the markets, which are their companies that we want
to target, and providing the opportunity for those people to
actually do that. And when you start looking at offshore
events like the Olympic Games, but they're also on shore
events like we've had in the FIFA Women's World Cup,
you know sal GP. There are so many of these
where All Blacks are going to be touring us and

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you know the Black Caps will be in India. Anytime
when there's an opportunity where our lead athletes are performing,
is an opportunity that we can attract the people that
we want in a hosting environment, in a relaxed, informal
environment where without a tie and all the officials around,
we can actually build those relationships, those people to people relation.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
What do they not do that themselves? Not trying to
do you out of a job, but when the All
Blacks go to San Diego, don't they take care of
that themselves? And how do you dubtail yourself in there?
To leap on their bandwagon, so to speak.

Speaker 23 (57:47):
Yeah, most most clearly they do. One of the things
that we're looking at doing is how do we represent
the New Zealand's in view? What is the New Zealand's
story that we want to portray in those environments. How
is it that we can bring government together as well
and look to leverage those opportunities. Part of that is
getting the rights to host those from our national sporting body,
so it is working with rugby and cricket, Netborne everyone

(58:11):
else to find those money can't buy moments and environments
where we can invite people attract them to it so
we can have the conversations that we want.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Cool job, well done, Peter, go well well. I appreciate
it very much. Ped Muskimmon Sports Diplomacy manager is what
he's calling himself these days. Five minutes away from eight,
ask Mike only from the beautiful Capity Coast, can you
please explain why the students from the Wellington College are
protesting about it's woke, gone woke. What it's about is
the building according to the ministry, the school building according

(58:41):
to the ministry, is it fifteen percent quake proof of
what it should be as a result of that, the
school weren't happy that they weren't told. The ministry says
they were told. So there's a bit of and as
a result of the fifteen percent, they're not happy with
them being at school just in case there's an earthquake,
so they've sent them home. That explains that maybe the

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entrances are cluttered with clothes, horses.

Speaker 14 (59:03):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
It's a good point, Mike. Most new builds in Auckland
have garage carpet. I'm a builder, seat I would have
argued that myself. One hundred percent of houses in Flatbush,
Auckland have carpet garages, Mike Wanting. Mike, we live in
Dunedin where we have a six car garage, only five cars.
It's fully carpeted, which costs three three hundred and sixty dollars.
See that's what you get by moving to Dunedin.

Speaker 10 (59:23):
Well there's this one. We got garage carpet for health
and safety reasons. Polish concrete was so slippery when on
cratches or walking sticks, especially when from cars on wet days.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Couldn't agree more. You get water, You get water on
a painted surface. Painted surface beautiful, but you get water
on that you back your car in there and you
get a high heel on or in Glenn's case, a
walking stick.

Speaker 10 (59:41):
In your case of high heel in my case of
walking stick.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
No, then boom, you're gone, Mike. I'm anti carpet. I've
installed a two car hoist in my six car garage.
Oh gee, all you're doing it's a flick. It's just
it's just man, Come on, don't I've installed a two
car hoist in my six car garage. Good on your Brian.

(01:00:03):
Cleaning MAGS is very easy and actually fun, and I
epoxy painted the entire floor. But I live in Graytown,
not one of the affluent cities. Greytown's very gentrified. Don't
don't you start talking down Greytown politics. Wednesday after the
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(01:01:21):
It is eight minutes past day's type of politics Wednesday,
which means it's Ginny Anderson and Mark Mitchell. Good morning
to you.

Speaker 23 (01:01:26):
Both, Good morning, good morning by good boye Jilly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
And a little delay on the line for you Mark,
because you're a long way away in Dubai. Is to
buy what what's the temperature in Dubai at this time
of year? It would be hot, won't it?

Speaker 16 (01:01:38):
Yes, yeah, it's hot. It's it's midsummer. So it was
about forty four degrees yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
And what do you do? You go outside it all?

Speaker 16 (01:01:46):
You go from E conditioning to eco.

Speaker 14 (01:01:50):
What do you do?

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
You're going to go to that?

Speaker 24 (01:01:52):
Are you going to go that cooluarter park? What's it
called wild Wardy?

Speaker 16 (01:01:55):
When you go to Worldwardy?

Speaker 24 (01:01:57):
That was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I'm sorry either, so Dore's a tell us all, Jenny,
you've been to the water park.

Speaker 24 (01:02:03):
I've just seen the pictures and it looks amazing. I've
always wanted to go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Okay, so you're looking out pictures of water parks, Mark,
have you been to the water park?

Speaker 16 (01:02:11):
I took the kids to the wild Body water Park
the day that we arrived from New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
So yes, So what's it called wild Body?

Speaker 16 (01:02:18):
It's called wild Woddy. Yes, it's it's it's amazing water park.
It's awesome because absolutely loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
And did you have like shorts or nut crackers? What
were you wearing?

Speaker 13 (01:02:26):
Mark?

Speaker 16 (01:02:32):
Maybe becking myself like saving days thirty years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Mike, do you think Jenny? And this is not a
political question, but I asked the Prime Minster about this yesterday.
Is Parliament not on enough?

Speaker 15 (01:02:47):
We thought that when so they you know.

Speaker 23 (01:02:52):
For a lot that yet we're not there as as
they used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
So so, Mark, do you understand how it works? Because
I asking Lucks and he didn't clearly know what was
going on. So you get three weeks after the school holidays,
they come back for two weeks, which was your previous
two weeks, and you're off for another week. I thought
you had stuff to do in legislation to pass.

Speaker 16 (01:03:11):
No, what are you saying I heard this interview with
you the other day. What are you say is that
there's so many weeks a year that Parliament has to
sit and so and we do that. Obviously we've got
a big He bought parliament back early this year. He'll
do it a year next year because he thinks that
Parliament over the summer break goes away for too long.
And I agree with him on that. But yes, we
have got a big legislative program that we have to

(01:03:33):
get through. The other thing that I'd say, like is
that just because Parliament isn't sitting, you actually should be working,
and you do work. Some people will take the time,
like I've done, to to go and see family. I
missed out on seeing my family at the last recess
because we had the you know, we had that weather
bomb come through that Hitney East coast a year with
Hawk's Bay, Warra and Gisbone and as Emergency Management Minister,

(01:03:56):
it was imported us on the ground making sure that
we had a proper response and place. But you know,
we have to take some time to see the family too,
and that's so I'm doing this week.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Okay, Jenny, time have used congestion charging if they get
it up and running, and that's a bit of legislation
they've got to pass. If they get it up and
running before the next election and you win the next election,
is that the sort of thing you'd keep in place
or reverse?

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
And we were support.

Speaker 24 (01:04:21):
It's not expose long term issue of congestion and Auckland.
So they need to do announced as well as that.
So if some of you think steps congestion alone is
going to fix Auckland's traffic problem, seeing pease dreaming.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Okay, let me get you on a better line, because
this is hopeless. We'll do We'll come back to you
in a moment. Mark as far as you're concerned. And
I assume you're up with us the Police Association and
letter open letter to the Prime Minister about Nicole McKey.
They want you to be the gun Minister, not her.
I assume you don't want the job, and I assume
you'll argue that Nicole mckey's doing a decent job.

Speaker 16 (01:04:55):
Well when Nicole's got her role and I've got my
role on the Minister of Police. So it's or that
I advocate that I've moved forward from a public safety
point of view, from a policing perspective, and she's obviously
the Associate Minister Justice and her job is to rewrite
the Arms Act, which she's doing. That was a coalition
agreement she's with myself, Nicole and Chris cart and the

(01:05:16):
Police Association are all joined by one thing and that
is public safety and we all need to work together
to make sure that we achieve it.

Speaker 13 (01:05:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Is she doing a good job in your view or not?

Speaker 16 (01:05:27):
Yeah, absolutely, she's doing a good job. I've got a
very good working relationship with Nicole, which I'll make sure
that we maintain. And our focus should always be on
public safety and we both.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
Agree on that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Do you share any view that the Police Association shares
as regards her being in charge of guns and guns
in reform?

Speaker 16 (01:05:51):
Look, the Police Association will take their position on things. Again,
I've got a great working relationship with Chris Carhill and
the Association. I'll continue to make sure that I've foster that.
Like I said, at the end of the day, we
might all have different views on some points, but we're
all united by one thing and that is public safety,
and we'll walk our way through those things.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Do you share Ginny welcome back. Do you share the
concerns that the Police Association have with Nicole McKee as
being in charge of gun reform.

Speaker 24 (01:06:16):
Most definitely she's a gun lobbyist and now she's rewriting
her Arms Act. The Police Association and the Police have
raised significant concerns that she should not be the responsible
person for making these changes for all New Zealanders and
I think deep down Mark knows that as well. He
thinks the Gun Registry is a good thing and act
want to get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yeah, I do pick up and you missed it, Ginny
because you're off the line, but I do pick up
some hesitancy Mark. You think that the Association might have
a point.

Speaker 16 (01:06:45):
Or two here, No, No, I just think that in
terms of I agree with Genny is that I think
the Gun Redistry does have an important role to playing.
As the Police Minister, it's important that.

Speaker 13 (01:06:55):
I advocate for that.

Speaker 16 (01:06:57):
As part of the as part of the coal listener
agreement with that is that we said that we review
it to make sure that's working properly and it's doing
the right thing. And I think that's fear that. Of course,
my position as policemens is that it does have an
important role to play and like I said to you,
I think that Nicole, myself and the Association are all

(01:07:17):
joined by one thing, or all agree on one thing,
and that is public safety in our country will always
trump and come first.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
All right, hold on, We'll come back in a moment,
Mark Mintchell, Ginny Anderson. It is thirteen past.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
B News Talks, sixteen past aid Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson.
Jinny is one of the more moderate and sensible members
of the Labor Party caucus. As you've looked at this
power crisis that we have in the country at the moment,
do you think there's a twinge or tinge of regret
anywhere within Labor that they might just to pull the
pin on gas exploration a wee bit soon.

Speaker 24 (01:07:51):
I don't think so. We've been the same situation we
are the perspective of thating. We know that we need Well,
it had like a thirty year time for it to
CACN like, it wouldn't have had an effect right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Now, chilling effect, A chilling effect.

Speaker 24 (01:08:07):
Not really not really. All the indicators showed that that
would have taken a few while to CACAN. So right now,
it wouldn't have made a lack of difference.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
So all the people who handed back their licenses and
said no thanks, you know, the user will lose it thing,
they all handed back their licenses. So you're telling me
it didn't have any chilling effect whatsoever. So they still
would have gone drilling and looking for oil and gas,
but they just wouldn't have found any.

Speaker 24 (01:08:28):
Well, no, that the CACN period I think was thirty
years for that to happen. So those licenses were still
active and they were still using them for that period
until they ran out. They weren't going to just stop
making a whole bunch of money at a drilling up oil,
drilling up gas expiration until the end of the license expired.
And so while those licenses are still active, they're still
getting it. So it made no difference, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
So excepting that what you say is true, which I
don't think we do, but let's say.

Speaker 14 (01:08:50):
It is.

Speaker 6 (01:08:51):
Not very much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Does the idea that we're importing more coal now than
we ever have make sense?

Speaker 24 (01:09:00):
We need to find alternative energy sources, and the sum
still doesn't want well, we need we need we need
to look at more hydro for for example, that and
where we have a dry, cold winter, we're stuffed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Ye, you can't build a hydro dam in this country
because of the rm A. They won't let you do it.

Speaker 24 (01:09:16):
Well, we need to look into that to make sure
we have good sources of natural energy here in New Zealand,
and we need to invest in infrastructure to utilize that
so that we're not kept in hand every time.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
We would you accept argue that this renewable thing isn't
working as we city. You're right here right.

Speaker 24 (01:09:31):
Now, I would say, we haven't invested enough in infrastructure
to make it work for us.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
And that's the problem, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:09:36):
Mate?

Speaker 16 (01:09:38):
Listen that these guys were a complete wrecking ball for
us when it comes to come to energy policy. And
by the way, we're already lead. We're really one of
the leading countries of the world in terms of newable energy.
We do extremely well here. But yes, the previous government
started burning dirty Indonesian coal because of the because of
their energy policy settings, and now we're having to do

(01:10:00):
we're doing the same thing. We're having to be worn
because we've got a shortage. Imming It's a travesty that
we even put it that they put us in this position.
We just can't walk our way through it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Just back up a minute mark. So Jenny's right. So
say we could still look for gas and there isn't
any guess. There isn't we're running out of guess. We
don't have gas guesses no longer an alternative. What is
going to fill the gap? The wind we've got doesnt
work because the wind isn't blowing at the moment. You
can't build the damn you know that. So what are
we going to do?

Speaker 16 (01:10:25):
Well, we are going to definitely build more of wind farms,
there's no doubt about that. A fast trick. Well you
just talk about renewables and windows is a renewable. But
the reality of it is this MC is there is
enough guess for us to be able to use guests.
It's far cleaner the know what's there.

Speaker 24 (01:10:44):
No one knows what's there. They're out drilling looking for it,
so they don't know. They've got to drink it fracking
or whatever it is.

Speaker 16 (01:10:51):
And well, we know this natural guess, we know this
natural guests it, Like Mike just pointed out, you guys
signaled to the industry that they didn't have your support
that you're ideologically driven, and now as a country, we're
paying extraordinarily high power prices. We're having to get the
government the government now, the government now is going to
is having to come up with ways of actually being

(01:11:13):
able to make sure our energy grid can provide what
key we need. And that is because for six years.
That is because after six years of a labor government
with awful energy policies, we're.

Speaker 14 (01:11:26):
In this position.

Speaker 16 (01:11:27):
We shouldn't be in this position.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Does it just to step up? And it does it
strike you as ironic that you're sitting in the oil
capital of the world, surrounded by some of the richest
people ever, and that maybe that might be the answer.

Speaker 16 (01:11:38):
Actually, well, I think you know, I haven't filled the
car up. I think it's about a dollar fifty leader
at the you know, the bearers of it. Yeah, I
just think that does put us in an awful.

Speaker 24 (01:11:50):
Situation when on what's the what's your plan?

Speaker 16 (01:11:56):
Well, the first thing is to start actually giving the
sect some confidence again that they can actually invest and
they can actually go and get some natural guests for
us to continue to use while we continue as a
country remain committed to renewabooks. I just gave you one
very clear example which you didn't do, and that was
Chris Bishop's fast the ability to be able to deliver

(01:12:17):
more wind farms. So you know, we of course right
now though, Jenny, we are absolutely in full on crisis
mode in New Zealand. Make sure that we can actually
deliver the power that we need. And we shouldn't be
in that position. We're in that position because we had
an awful labor government that it was driven by ideological

(01:12:38):
ideas that has been a complete reaching ball for us.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Right listen, I appreciate it. You have a good, good
stay in the middle Easter Mark, and we'll catch up
with you next week, presumably back in New Zealand. Jenny
Anderson dropped off the who put something wrong with their
phone today? Or they could be something wrong with our phone?
Six No, it's not eight twenty two.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
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(01:13:54):
Auckland tax speaking Mark raised the cost of petrol and
oil and lights of stuff. The tax that came off
for Auckland. They did a test as to whether it
was passed on. It was study split Auckland into South Aukland,
North Aukland, Central Auckland, dis sample of fifteen to seventeen
sebastations from each zone with gasby data for ninety one
and diesel and they worked out. By and large the
savings got passed on, which is good, Mike. Gas exploration,

(01:14:17):
I'm in the industry. Ginny's talking rubbish. There's plenty of gas,
noil up the west coast of New Zealand. Marks one
hundred percent correct. The previous labor government signal to the
exploration industry there was no support for gas and exploration.
Remember to send us captain's call. Oh we do Taranaki.
So the industry upsticks and left basically, which is true, Mike.
Not surprising they see no issue with gas. They still
don't understand how badly they've ruined the economy. I wonder

(01:14:41):
if we'll be thinking about that in twenty twenty six
when the next election comes along. Good morning, guys. We're
putting a garage carpet down in our new house because
I'm not allowed to put my motorbike in the lounge.
Thank you, Brian. Mike. I've got a carport with carpet.
It's weatherproof. First one this morning. Carport with carpet. A
news for you in a couple of moments. Then we'll
cross the Tasman and talk with Steve Price. News Talks head.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Demanding the answers from the decision makers, the mic asking,
Breakfast with a Vida, retirement, communities, life your Way, news
talks end B.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
So it continues. Mike. Three car garage, kids left home,
wife put carpet in, therefore her weights and CrossFit equipment.
I have no say she's stronger than me. I think
most of us can relate to that, can't we?

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
I've got three garages at my house. None are carpeted,
but I have a large kitchen, half liner, half carpet
on which sit ten motorcycles. I'm not married, but you
probably already figured that out. Twenty three minutes away.

Speaker 18 (01:15:51):
From nine International Correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance Peace
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Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Australia, Steep Price, Very good morning to you, Michael good
eight garage carpet at your place? Steve?

Speaker 5 (01:16:04):
No, Well, I would you put carpet in a garage?

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Okay? And that's been the debate this morning. So have
you always had an uncarpeted garage?

Speaker 13 (01:16:12):
My father had a pool table in his garage note
cars and a dark board, and I think he had
a like a big rug, right, and all the blokes
from the neighborhood would come over every night and drink beer,
play darts in pool.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
There you go. A survey out this morning done by
our Kia who were just setting up a big store
in this country. What percentage of garages in this country
do you reckon at a guess a carpeted according to
the survey two ninety three.

Speaker 13 (01:16:43):
That's ridiculous. That's what's like key trying to sell carpet.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
I think that's what we've concluded somehow. Anyway, Morrison and court,
and this is the Brittney Higgins case, the Reynolds case,
I would imagine what he said was fairly effective.

Speaker 13 (01:16:57):
Yeah, look, you and I how long have we been
talking about it was caseful and it's just extraordinary that
it goes on. In fact, earlier this week, Senator Linda
Renld's former defense minister in the Morrison government, admitted that
whatever way this case goes, whether she wins in her
defamation case loses, she will lose her house. That's where
she's at. That's why she is so determined in this

(01:17:19):
case to prove her point, being that she was defamed
by Higgins and Chiraz over the handling of the rape
allegations following the alleged rape that of course has always
been denied by Lemon Now ex Pm Morrison people on
video link. I mean I find that given what happened

(01:17:39):
to this poor woman, I mean, and you know our
sympathies with Higgins as well, why wouldn't Morrison not go to.

Speaker 16 (01:17:47):
Person turn up?

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
I mean, I don't get that.

Speaker 13 (01:17:49):
Anyway, he had to keep being interrupted by the judge
esday because he was refusing to answer questions. He was
doing the old politician line of waffling on. But he
did say that he believed that the Higgins rape allegations
were weaponized to discredit him, and that during this period
he feared for Linda Reynolds' life.

Speaker 16 (01:18:08):
She herself has admitted suicidal thoughts.

Speaker 13 (01:18:10):
So he then demoted her from defense, he says, to
protect her health. Now, at the time when Linda Reynolds
was done as defense minister, the then labor opposition said
that look see what's happened. I mean, even Scott Morrison
who doesn't believe this woman, and now she's been demoted.

(01:18:31):
This case will go on for some weeks and as
I said, the costs mean a lot of people are
going to be severely financially damaged. You just wonder why
this case had to end up in court in the
first place, why someone couldn't settle it out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
And when Adan said, if there's appeals and so it goes.
Now that's pro Palestinian relly. So if they know this,
eighteen hundred police required to handle it. So what have
you got? The great democracy debate and you know the
right to protest.

Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
It's extraordinary.

Speaker 13 (01:18:59):
I didn't even know this military organization was holding this
rally next month in September go from September eleventh to
thirteen min it's called the Landforces Expo. Now, I don't
know if you remember the World Economic Forum all the
way back in two thousand. I was in Molment at
the time, and the scenes outside that that forum were unbelievable.

(01:19:23):
Police on horseback, thousands of protesters. It got very violent.
Police are predicting that it's going to be the same
this time around. Up to twenty five thousand protests planned
to blockade what's described as a major international military fair.
The forty groups include Pro Palestine and TIFA, a number
of anarchist activists. They've already began identified planning what they're

(01:19:46):
going to do how they're going to pick it. There's
all sorts of stuff up online. Activists to take it
to social media urging their supporters to join the mobilization
and shut this shiit down. It is going to be
a complet deletely disruptive and eighteen hundred Victoria Police are
going to be required to keep the peace, which is extraordinary.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Unreally, did they ban the council last night all eat
scooters they had gone? Or are their exceptions?

Speaker 13 (01:20:12):
No, no exceptions. They've ripped up the contracts with the
two operators. Now this is odd because the acting Lord Mayor,
who's standing for Lord Mayor in an election later in
the year, was Allays a fan. He was a regular
on my Sky TV progound, Nicholas Reese. Suddenly he's changed
his mind because he saw that his opponents were also
going to try and get these things banned. Council voted
last night in a split decision. Now I don't know

(01:20:34):
up as orplan got these things.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Yes, well yeah, the whole one. I was going to
say the whole country metropolitan centers do. But there's there's
been an angsty debate and some get their licenses pulled
and some are allowed and some come and go and
stuff like that, but they are around.

Speaker 13 (01:20:47):
Well. The two operators here are Lime and Neurone, and
councils given the companies thirty days to quote cease operations.
I've also been told they need to retrieve all East
scooters from across the municipality. Now that doesn't mean that
you're not going to have these operators bob up in
other councils. In fact, they're already in places like Port
Phillip Council and another number of others, so they will

(01:21:10):
still be around.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
But they are a hell of a mess.

Speaker 13 (01:21:13):
And if you listen to health authorities, the number of
people turning up in emergency departments in Melbourne City, City
of Melbourne with wrists broken and concussion. No one's wearing helmets.
Two kids up on one scooter at one time, drunks
ride in them and then they.

Speaker 16 (01:21:30):
Guess, just get dropped in the street. There's no return
base for these things. So I think the majority of
people probably think that's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Good only mate ketch up next week, appreciate it. I
think it's a classic theory versus reality thing, the last
mile thing. You know, you get off your bust to
get off you train and take the last mile into
the office. All of that in theory was fine, but
in reality we have experienced exactly what they have just
piss people falling off all over the place. Mike, most
of the individual lifestyle village villas have carpeted garages. Does
that push up the average? I don't know, Mike, Why

(01:21:59):
can't I use the bath? He carpeted the garage now
stores the firewood in the bark. That's not true. Seventeen
Away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
At b fourteen Away from nine didn't have time to
deal with it directly with Steve. But the weirdest debates
going on in Australia at the moment. The bloke who
runs Aco, which is their sort of spy service guy,
called Mike Burgers, So I got quite a bit of
time for because he's quite open when he speaks publicly,
he speaks in a language we can understand. He was
the one who up the alert level the other day,
comes out periodically and go, you got no idea what

(01:22:33):
we deal with on a daily basis. They're coming for us.
They come for us every day. We're protecting Australia like
you've never seen it anyway, he says, rhetorical support. So
there's a bit of angst in Australia about trying to
drum up some sort of visa for people to come
in from Gaza. The main problem with coming in from
Gaza is getting out of Gaza and getting into Australia
at the moment, the actual physical transportation. But be that

(01:22:56):
as it may, the people want some sort of visa.
When I say the people are the left Lands, the Greens,
those sort of people, they want a visa for you
to be able to come and lob into Australia. And
of course the obvious concern as well, just because you
come from Gaza doesn't mean you're some sort of poor,
downtrodden Palestinian. It could well mean you Hamas. So we
don't want those people. But he says that just having

(01:23:17):
some sort of rhetorical support for Hamas they don't have
an ideology or support for a violent extremism ideology, then
that's not a problem. He says, if you give money
to them directly or fund them in some way, no,
you shouldn't be allowed into Australia. But if you go

(01:23:38):
look on the whole Hamas is quite cool. I got
a bit of time for them. They're not the worst
people in the world, or words to that effect. He says,
you can enter Australia, to which the Coalition go are
you mental? But the labor government are going, eh, no,
that's okay. So there's just a problem just begging to

(01:24:04):
be sorted out. And yet they cannot see the wood
for the trees for some inexplicable reason. My carpet going
into the garage in a couple of weeks. Garages are
no longer for housing cars. This space is to store
equipment needed to support modern day lafstard. That is true.
I don't subscribe necessarily to that view.

Speaker 10 (01:24:22):
But most people, says barn owner of Medicana.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
That's true, that's true for them. But why, I iron
my mind separate that out. That's a recreation facility. That's
that's not a barn, that's a recreation facility. It's like
a club. So anyway, most New Zealanders, I think, and
I think that's probably got something to do with the
ninety three percent. I think it's not the carpet thing.
I think in reality, what ninety three percent of people
do with the garages in this country is they put
crap in there. That's not to do with cars, Mike,

(01:24:48):
not only garage carpet, but insulated garage door, which keeps
my internal access garage warmer by four degrees in winter.

Speaker 10 (01:24:56):
I've considered that for the opposite reason. What the insulated
garage door, because in summer keeps it cool. To keep
it cool, that garage door is like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
A it's an oven. It's an oven. It's an oven.

Speaker 10 (01:25:10):
Can I plug that into the national grid and help out?

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Just received a beautiful photo of I'm not an expert
on American cars, so I can't help you. But it's
a beautiful American car which is parked in the garage
next to the Harley Davidson on a carpeted floor. But
the car has carpet on top of the carpet. I
love it. Ten Away from nine the.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rovere of the Line News.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Did you know, Mike, roller owners need carpet in the
garages to soak up the oil excess. All new houses
might have garage carpet. Who wants water everywhere? When the
cars and they're are wet and the trip has it
on crappy concrete see as outrageous. Everyone is saying there
is no carpet. There are people saying, of course this carpet.
Everyone new house got a carpet. Mike put a heat
pump in your garage. Godn't agree more. I put two

(01:26:01):
and do that just confirm everything you thought about me? Hey?

Speaker 10 (01:26:05):
Pretty much?

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
It's just that yep. Of course he did. Steven Away
from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Trending now with Wims Warehouse the Real House of Fragrances.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Okay, so here we are again. Seems hard to believe
that twelve months have slipped by, but the Edinburgh Fringe
Festival have the funniest joke of the Fringe Award. It
goes viral. I've don't actually believe it goes viral, so
it's a one liner thereafter. The winner in twenty twenty
three was last year I was. I started dating as
zoo keeper, but it turned out he was a cheetah

(01:26:36):
ah exactly, so this one was the winner. In twenty
twenty two, I tried to steal spaghetti from the shop,
but the female guard saw me and I couldn't get
past her.

Speaker 17 (01:26:46):
Wow.

Speaker 13 (01:26:46):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
So that's twenty two twenty three, So that's what we're
lining up for. So twenty twenty four the finalist star
as follows my desire to spontaneously sing the line sleeps
tonight is always a whim away. It's not bad. I
fail religious education, couldn't believe it. When I found out.
I was like, Jason Christ, that's pretty good. That's a
winner already in my mind. My girlfriend told me she's

(01:27:10):
never seen the film Gaslight. I told her, yeah, you have.
We watched it together. It's not bad. That's a joke
for the times. I feel it's a joke for the times.
It reads the mood of the room.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
I recently read ten percent of Sheep a gay turns
out there's not so queer as flock. Turns out there's
not so queer as flock. Quite like that one. How
do you know that Edinburgh is the most haunted city
in the UK. You measure it with a spirit level?

(01:27:42):
That's great, having done those last three, that pales and
do insignificance. My Auntie's Indian German and a terrible human being.
She's the curry worst. She's a curry person. She's the
curry Wurdna. We shouldn't have put those three in before
those two, should we. I don't like it. I don't

(01:28:03):
like when a casinos house rules. It's got a little
bit boring for me in the last season. I don't
like when a casino house that one as well. I
don't like when a casinos his house rules. It got
a little boring for me in the last season.

Speaker 10 (01:28:19):
See that that's not even a show that's on TV.
It's like they they've been doing that joke since House
was actually on air.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Our house isn't like, yeah, yeah, it's his name.

Speaker 10 (01:28:29):
Now you find joke. There's so much funny you when
you had to explain them stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Oh, the Romans invented vassoline.

Speaker 10 (01:28:39):
You've ruined that now, because you know what, the most
important thing about comedy is timing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
The Romans invented vasoline or was it the ancient Greece?
Ancient Greece? And then you've cocked it up the Romans.
The Romans invented wessoline or was it ancient Greece?

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
Yet?

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
No, very very good. But the winner, I can't believe
it is one of those. Aren't the winners? They're fantastic.
The winner was I call myself the Yorkshire Shakira. Her
lips don't lie and mine don't faf about.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
What that is.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
I don't get that.

Speaker 10 (01:29:17):
I don't could have helped if hadn't done a typo
on the script.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Oh no, what's the typo faft about about? I call
myself the Yorkshire Shakira. Her lips don't lie about her.

Speaker 17 (01:29:28):
Hepstone her.

Speaker 16 (01:29:32):
God.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
So we definitely while we were such a crap show, Okay,
well let's us. Thank god, it's well, it's nine o'clock.
So fortunately every single one of us individually made a
dick of ourselves this morning. It didn't we. I mean
often it's just me, but this morning everyone came to
the party. On man Back tomorrow morning from six or

(01:30:00):
possibly not actually happy days.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
We are, we Are, we Are, We Are Lucky.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
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