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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Doing the business out of Australia. That's Wednesday Morning Care
and Gilbert Morning to you morning mate. Now, the Prime
Minister drafting the legislation you thinks sixteen or thereabouts, and
you're going to ban every Australian kid from being on
social media. How many people could you line up right here,
right now that believe that that's actually going to be
a workable thing.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, that said that one of the questions. But I
think what we're seeing, Mike is a groundswell of support
from families and parents. Now, it technically might be an issue,
but I think what the argument is from those like
Peter malanowskis the South Australian Premiere, is that this is
going to empower parents that once you get one, two
(00:44):
three a group saying okay, your kids, I'm sorry you
can't have social media for this age, and then gradually
it shifts the community discourse as well. So you've got
the technical question. Yes, some kids get around it, like
they do with smoking or drinking alcohol, but it doesn't
mean you shouldn't have the benchmark or the rule.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Okay, so what's the timeline on this? Whens it get
up and passed? Well?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
They're going to legislate by the end of this year,
and there's bipartisan support to do it. It looks like
it probably will come in at the age of sixteen.
And quite frankly, there are various other questions that need
to be answered. As you said, what's the age verification,
how are they going to do it, facial technology or what.
(01:32):
But either way, this is going to happen, and it's
going to happen. Legislation to be introduced to Prime Minister
promised by the end of the year, and with both
sides of the major parties agreeing anyway, it's hard to
see why it won't be delivered.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And do we have the detail on the legislation. In
other words, if they settle on sixteen, if you're fifteen
years old, you will not be legally allowed to be
on TikTok or Facebook or Snapchat or anywhere.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
We haven't seen the legislation yet they're still doing They've
actually just kicked off the process for an age verification trial,
so over the next month or so it is all
being done very quickly. There are legal questions as well.
There are a number of states in the US that
have tried it they're in the courts, big Tech taking
them on. But with an election coming up, Mike, I
(02:23):
don't think this is a problem politically. I think the
government's more than happy to have a fight with big tech.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And having said that, does that in any way, shape
or form, or will it duvetail in with the ongoing
conversations you're having with big tech over them taking content
and then putting it online and they might like to
pay a little bit of money for that, or are
these completely separate subjects, in other words, the relationship between
big tech and the government.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
They're they're meant to be separate, but I'm sure they
will dovetail, and who knows, maybe there's something where they
can compromise on one and get some get them to
bend on the other. But I haven't heard any suggestion
that Big Tech's will to go back and start paying
for the news that they use. And to be honest,
I think there is a view that they take the
(03:08):
mickey Mike. They're basically it's not like the Wild West
that they're not treated like publishers. They don't have the
same rules in terms of defamation. They make money on
advertising that they don't even see. They just throw it up,
throw it up online. So I think there's a view
in the community as well that enough's enough and it's
(03:30):
time to start raining them in.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
All right, there we got agecre reform. How long has
this been in the offing?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Oh? For years? In fact, we had a Royal Commission
over two years ago now which said they needed to
be urgent action, urgent action. Two and a bit years later,
we've seen no deal done and I'm not convinced there
will be a compromise. Basically, our age care sector with
a growing aging population, the demographic is shifting. There needs
(04:00):
to be reform. But as I said, we've got an
election coming up. The government's got a five hundred page bill.
I'm just not sure the Coalition and the opposition will
give them a win here, as much as we desperately
need it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And then we got the details and interesting eclectic old
I mean, at least you get them, the King and
the Queen, we don't get them. They dropped our part
of the league off before they head off to Samoa.
They're going the usual things, but the barbecue is interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I thought, yeah, that's right. The barbecue meeting community leaders,
those that volunteer and pioneers in cancer research and so on.
So yeah, it looks like they're going to pack it
in in two days. Disappointing they're not visiting your beautiful
part of the world. It's one of my favorite places
(04:47):
to come and holiday where I'll be in December again
this year. But anyway, I think the King's missing a
trick there. But here's the two days Canberra and Sydney's
is on their schedule.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Exactly. Hey, listen normally on in the afternoon on Sky
when this debate's on. Is it going to do you?
You're carrying it live today? What would your assessment be
of the interest by the average Australian in the one
debate and to the race in America?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It's huge and definitely in parliament Parliament sitting this week,
we're running it in full. We've got analysis off the
back of it as well, and I just think it's
got everyone I'm talking to in the Australian Parliament is
super engaged because it affects us all whoever wins in
that first week of November in the presidential race, that
(05:31):
this is going to have huge implications for our region
as well.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Mate, Exactly, good to see you mate, we'll catch up Friday.
Apreciated very much. Kieran Gilbert, who is the chief news
anchor at Sky News. The details of King and the
Queen six days in Australia sixteenth to Australia for Charles trip.
That is three days of events in Sydney and Canberra.
They'll arrive Friday, October eighteenth, fly out the following Wednesday
where they head to the Chogga Meeting in Samoa, first
(05:57):
by Reigning Monarch. Who's visit by Reigning Monarch since was
there in Brisbane and Melbourne back in twenty eleven. Barbecue
with every day Australians. I mean, what on earth does
that mean? And really do you think you would round
up your average every day Australian and put them in
front of a barbecue and the King I think not.
The layer wreath at the Australian War Memorial, visit the
(06:18):
Australian Botanic Gardens. They'll visit the CSIRO where the scientists
are working on dealing with the impact of bush fars
in Australia. They'll conduct a fleet review of the Royal
Australian Navy. So that's the itinerary that's been released. This Morning.
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