Full Show Podcast: 18 September 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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up Pasky. Welcome to the middle of the week, seven
past six. So I got a little bit of fizz
in the housing market, that's my prediction of it hasn't
already started. We're going to see it by Christmas. Agent

(00:34):
commentary that I'm getting rangers from. It's not quite there yet,
but open homes are busier and the cash rate is
making a difference right through to those who are full
of hype merchants at the moment, and this is the
last chance, apparently to grab a bargain before it all
takes off. Now some of the major players are now offering,
as I'm sure you're aware, a mortgage rate fixed two
years below six percent, in fact nowadays well below six percent.

(00:56):
Big quandary is, of course, do you take it? Will
it go lower? How low will it go? But he
is the most valuable piece of information of all trade.
Me did some works and research. Home ownership is collectively
our biggest dream. We dream scroll. This is the thing
dream scrolling. If you don't own, you want to own.
If you're already owned, you want to own more or better.

(01:17):
It is deep within the keywi psyching. And the interesting
thing is it's always been that way as far as
I can tell. I grew up thinking and believing that
owning your own home was a major step in the
journey to success, and it seems that hasn't changed, which
is good. The commentary has, of course, the commentary is
full of woe and misery about unaffordability and people giving up,
But in there has always been a number that defied
the theory. First home buyers, even through COVID, even through

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the cost of living mess have remained the biggest group
of purchases. It's always about twenty five, twenty six, sometimes
twenty seven percent, over a quarter of all sales at
all times involve people buying their first home. No matter
what the headlines about being locked out told you, that
hasn't changed. Sixty three percent from this research see owning
as an employ stant step in life. Thirty two percent

(02:02):
have always dreamed for rent as that number sixty six percent.
Once you understand that the profoundness of that level of
desire and thinking, housing will always be profitable, it will
always be affordable, Always be an investment, be a path
of retirement, be a sense of satisfaction in place. When
you dream, you tend to make it happen. You tend
to be determined New Zealanders and housing. That's always been

(02:25):
the clue as to where the market is heading.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Whow news of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'm sure you're aware. Like yesterday, they're rounded diddy.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Up use the business empire he controlled to carry out
criminal activity including sex, trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bravery,
and the obstruction of justice.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Meantime, in the Middle East, a bunch of pages simultaneously
exploded in Lebanon.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
The numbers injured unclear, but reports are that over one
thousand have been injured. The Beirut's hospitals have been put
on high alert, and it's been calls for blood donations.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
A lot of people suspect they know who's behind.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
It, a lot having the stereotacs exponentially across northern Israel.
I think around one hundred thousand is radies have been
forced to flee from northern Israel. I think this is
the latest indication, but the fact that Israel are stepping
up trying to counter that, and this is a good
indication of that.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
As regards to America, the Rice and the golf course
and the IGS out again this morning and reminding us
all how unbiased they.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Are, we will all work together to tirelessly determine accountability
in this matter.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
We will spare no resources.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Instigation JD isn't helping the overall temperature.

Speaker 8 (03:40):
You know, the big difference between conservatives and liberals is
that no one has tried to kill Kamala Harris in
the last couple of months, and two people now have
tried to kill Donald Trump in the last couple of months.

Speaker 9 (03:52):
As for the illeged target, very peaceful, very beautiful, whether
everything was beautiful, it was a nice place to be
and all of a sudden we heard shots being fired
in the air, and I guess probably four or five.

Speaker 10 (04:07):
Fine, and it sounded like bullersk.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yes they did, that's very good. He didn't finish, just
putting finally coughing us. And we got new research out
of such. Our university of this is in China. They've
looked at three hundred and sixty thousand coffee drinkers from
the UK Biobank. That's a database that follows people over
the longer term. It found it having a morning cup
of coffee or one to three cups a day lowers
the risk of developing cardio metabolic multi morbidity that Splash

(04:31):
took for heart disease and stroke with diabetes. In fact,
the risk is reduced by forty eight percent. That's a
single cup. One to three cups of tea also have
a similar effect and used the world in ninety seconds.
They're trying to make a big deal of this. I'm
not sure it is Tom Cruise. It's been revealed this morning,
who sort of had a fairly significant role in the
ceremony in Paris didn't get paid for it, and they

(04:52):
were surprised, and this all came out in the big
sort of chat session and the person who was behind
it thought they might get two or three hours if
they were lucky with cruise, and Cruise would say, well,
look i'll give you three hours and afternoon you've got
a film. It all at once, simple as that. He
couldn't be more enthusiastic. And what's more, he did it
for absolutely next and then that I'm not actually surprised.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Twelve past six, the Mike asking Breakfast Full Show podcast
on iHeartRadio, how it by news.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Talks it'd be good, and so Micha if there's any
doubt about the Valdy of wine production and five killing
me just just north of White Brothers, Canterbury. Fourteen helicopters
hobbing above the grape vines to beat the frost at
the moment you'd be in the little early for fruit
set that the flowers will be coming out, so a
little bit bit nervous. So I wish them well with
all of that. Fifteen past six that vines like to struggle.

(05:38):
I think we all know that, don't we now? From
jam I Well for Andrew kellerher good morning, Mollie, Mike,
how about the GDT.

Speaker 7 (05:45):
We'll take it, Yeah, we will. The dairy sector, Michaeh.

Speaker 11 (05:49):
I think it's I think in terms of sort of
overall influence, I think it's a tailwind for the domestic
economy in the moment. There's some sort of key themes
helping that aren't the commodity prices lower interest right Fonterra
is performing quite well, and if you talk to farmers
I think they I think the general feeling is the
current government is more favorably disposed than the last and
one And there was nothing to suggest prior to this

(06:11):
auction that we would have a negative how come, and
that was.

Speaker 7 (06:13):
The case, so very much status quo.

Speaker 11 (06:16):
At the global dairy trade price index level, we was
for a rise of zero point eight percent. Now just
reflecting and over the last quarter since June, we've had
sort of five relatively mundane outcomes.

Speaker 7 (06:28):
We've had one big up and one big down, so.

Speaker 11 (06:30):
The global dairy trade price and it's just pretty much
exactly where it was in June, and stable is good.
Just looking last night at commodity level, Mozzarella the big
winner four and a half percent, Cheddar up two point
nine percent, butter drifted lower one point seven percent.

Speaker 7 (06:44):
But the big commodities both positive.

Speaker 11 (06:46):
Skim milk powder up two point two and whole maork
powder plus one point five and if I look at
both of those, skim milk powder has spelt the bulk
of the last twelve months trading in quite a tight range,
sort of twenty five hundred eight duist dollars that's average prices.
Whole milk powder ranged also between sort of this year though,
threey one hundred, three thousand and five hundred on the

(07:09):
average price level.

Speaker 7 (07:09):
So nothing here to change.

Speaker 11 (07:11):
I think the forecast farm gate milk prices so steady
as it goes back.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, no, we like that. And then rabobank have found
a similar thing. And I'm assuming Dairi's played an outsized
role in the turnaround of attitude.

Speaker 7 (07:23):
Yeah, although actually it is broad based.

Speaker 11 (07:25):
So we talk quite a bit about consumer confidence, business avage,
what about the farm as well, the good folk as
Fortunately at Rababanker they do a farmer confidence survey and
I just said the rule sector could be the sectors
sort of help lead us out of our economic funk.
And if you look at the Rauba Bank confidence results,
it seems to be supportive of that view. Farmer confidence
has risen sharply. It's now at net positive levels that

(07:47):
we haven't seen since the last quarter of twenty twenty one,
so that's quite a long time. So they're feeling frisky
on the farms bike the headline level plus three from
minus twenty five, so that's quite a shift. What's driving
that optimism, Well, what we just talked about higher commodity
prices forty percent quoting that falling into strates thirty one percent,

(08:08):
quoting that the main concern of those farmers who are
less favorable continues to be high input costs. And yeah,
it's across all sectors, so it's across dairy farmers' across
sheeven bee forticultures that are all recording that positive readings. Interestingly,
eight percent of farmers still describe their own farm businesses
as unviable, but more farmers now assess their operations.

Speaker 7 (08:30):
As viable or easily viable.

Speaker 11 (08:32):
And to cap it off, the number of farmers expecting
the performance of the broader acri economy to improve in
the year, it has doubled in the last quarter mic
so it's gone from fifteen to thirty. So spring has
sprung as far as farmer sentiment is concerned.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Good stuff and the airport got their money.

Speaker 11 (08:47):
Yeah, we talked about this yesterday they attracted bids well
in excess of the one point two billion on office,
so the institutional bid has been successful.

Speaker 7 (08:56):
Trading resumed yesterday.

Speaker 11 (08:57):
It was a bit weaker on the open, but after
that quite well supported. So yeah, they'll be they'll be happy,
and now they'll step into the retail offer, which people
out there need that.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
They should talk to their local broker.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
It's time tomorrow, mate, Fed, Yeah, it's time Fed. How
big is you're going to be?

Speaker 11 (09:15):
Well, I think the market's sort of pretty much on
hold of them. It's all retail sales. Overnight figures there
were a bit better than expected, but yeah, I think
they're all So the markets were a bit weaker, but
just sort of bouncing around. Look, I think the markets
market would like to see fifty basis points.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
The question is the FED prepared to go there?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
You want to bet bottle of wine twenty five?

Speaker 10 (09:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I say twenty five too. So that sort of takes
us nowhere, does it right?

Speaker 10 (09:40):
Where?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, we can go nowhere just for the hell of it.
What are the numbers the.

Speaker 7 (09:48):
Well, yeah, okay, the Dow Jones says, bouncing around.

Speaker 11 (09:51):
At the moment, it's down to thirty points forty one.

Speaker 7 (09:54):
Six hundred and eight.

Speaker 11 (09:55):
The S and P five hundred is basically flat on
the session at the moment five six three three, and
then is up fourteen points seventeen thousand, six hundred and
six overnight small rise in the forty one hundred they
was up thirty one points eight.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
Three oh nine.

Speaker 11 (10:09):
The Nicky lost just over one percent thirty six thousand,
two hundred and three. Shanka compet it down just under
half percent twenty seven oh four. The Aussis yesterday gained
nineteen points eight one four to zhout our market yesterday fell.

Speaker 7 (10:21):
We'll call it a quarter of a percent down thirty
two points twelve thousand.

Speaker 11 (10:24):
Six hundred and seventy one one New Zealand dollar this
morning on the wholesale markets, we'll get your point six
one eight two US points nine one five six Ousie
point five five sixty one Euro point four six nine
nine pounds eighty seven point eight seven. Japanese en gold
still at sort of almost all time highest two thousand,
five hundred and sixty nine US dollars, and bread could

(10:46):
just creeping back up again seventy three dollars and eighty two.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Cents til tomorrow Andrew Kello j Jmiwealth dot Co dot
ms in my mask. My argument for twenty five points
is they've taken so long to be dragged to this
particular point, why would they suddenly go fifty in surprises
basics This Starlink thing that I mean, if you're not
into Stalink, get into it's brilliant. Two and a half
thousand planes now are under contract, so you can put
Starlink seemingly anywhere. Rural New Zealand are on a plane,

(11:12):
so the backlog is nearly doubled of airlines, and they've
got deals with Qatar, They've got deals with Hawaiian, they
have new deal signed up with United, so they've got
plane after playing United alone, are looking for one thousand
planes to be fitted with Starlink. So he's on a roll.
That's six twenty one arad Newstalks Zed Sit Your Man
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It'd be a couple of things going on around the world.
Amazon's instructed everyone that works for them they've got to
get back into the office five days a week. Previously
it's been up to three in this second. That's what
they needed to be back downtown. Here's why you don't
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the union said is that junior doctors will want more
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(12:04):
to come. They're wreckers, the unions. And then we come
to Springfield where the state police and the shows our
mental whole place is. State police in Ohio are now
going to have to conduct daily sweeps of schools in Springfield.
They've had at least thirty three bomb threats the officials,
the mayor, the local police. The claims aren't true. No

(12:25):
one's eating a dog, no one's edting a cat. Stop
bringing up schools and threatening to blow them up. They're
all hoaxes. They're always hoaxes. So anyway, the higher State
Patrol Field Force will sweep Springfield school buildings every morning,
every night. Offices will remain on campus during the school day.
I mean, how much is resource do you reckon? That's
sucking up? Loved you comment Mike on first home buyers.

(12:48):
The other piece of Empoe in that survey was that
this new generation would rather scroll for a first home
than be intimate with their partner. You don't want to
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Opinion six twenty five.

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Soon Ley, we followed the story closely. I told you
about their banking and credit facilities yesterday. Today's the big

(14:52):
voting day. Are they're enough shareholders who want to go
with the plan? Do they survive? So the big call
talk more about it after the news.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
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Speaker 2 (15:12):
The did he charges and of course I'll fall out
from the assassination Richard Arnold all over that will get
to him shortly. Meantime, it's twenty three minutes away from
seven D day for sin Layers. They look to raise
this capital. Shareholder is going to be voting at nine
this morning on the two hundred and eighteen million dollar proposal.
So where does the support for the sin Lay board
chair George Adams respect Well, that's George, very good morning
to you. Thanks for helping me and not at all
the level of confidence you go into today with is

(15:35):
what hi good so Bright dairy Urn. Is it fair
to say that.

Speaker 10 (15:41):
Yes, it is? It is. I think the only challenge
obviously is I think the voter around the sorry the
break volt as of course to the A two TI txtment.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Just explain that for people who haven't followed the intricacies
of this.

Speaker 10 (15:56):
Yeah. So basically neither break nor A two you can
vote on the placement, which means that in terms of
the A two placement, Bright can vote on it. And
given that there are roughly half of all of the
votes that can vote on it, you'd have to say
that one looks fully assured in terms of.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
The Bright Street carry on.

Speaker 10 (16:17):
In terms of the Bright placement. Bright can vote on it,
which means that there's only sixty percent roughly off the
balance off the shareholders who can vote on that, and
A too have voted positively. They have twenty percent of
that sixty which means that there's still two thirds of
the book coming in from the minority showholders.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Okay, the New Zealand Shareholders Association called the dead rat.
How many people voting today are going? I wish we
weren't here and this is crap, but I'm in too deep.

Speaker 10 (16:49):
Not sure to be honest, I know that there are
a quite a few people who have spoken to who
are part of the forty one percent minority who are
just relieve the business is actually not going under and
it has an help opportunity to retrieve some value. So
I think that dead right comment. Look, it's a kind
of a nice headline, but I think it possibly oversetepskins.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Okay, So the credit facilities, and I detail this on
the program yesterday. The number of banks involved in your
credit facilities is how hard was that to put together?
And the fact that there seem to be so many
banks is that unusual?

Speaker 10 (17:23):
Yeah. I mean our previous think it might would have
had five bunks in it, which is kind of normal.
It probably is definitely more than we would have liked,
and it was difficult to put it together. Have to
be honest, Okay, I came a really good job.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Are you pleading with the banks?

Speaker 10 (17:43):
I wouldn't using both knees, but there certainly is a
fur degree of encouragement required, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I can't remember because I don't have it in front
of me now, but there were several Chinese banks involved.
Are the Chinese banks involved because Bright's Chinese?

Speaker 10 (17:58):
That would be the kiss for sure?

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (18:00):
So I mean, look, I think a couple of them
are probably involved because they've got reasonably sizeable interests in
New Zealand anyway, bank you Channel, for example, but a
couple of the other smaller ones for sure have been
have been encouraged by our friends upright.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Okay, So let's say it all goes well today. Where
does that leave you?

Speaker 10 (18:20):
Yeah? It basically means that really we could put the
deliverging behind us, we focus on getting our farmers back
in the house again and basically delivering you know, an
outsilling business, which which sin they can can be.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Does the I mean you will have seen the result
this morning at the auction, the general tile wins of
the dairy market at the moment, does that help in
a measurable sort of way in people's attitudes towards your
company and the farmers who supply well.

Speaker 10 (18:49):
I'm genuinely not sure it does. At this stage. It's
still relatively early in the season. And while there is
positive positivity, you know, there's still a relatively small amount
of the year has been treated as such. But it
doesn't do any harm, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Okay, I'm sure I asked you this last time because
I've been endlessly fascinated by this whole story. How does
this feel in the being in the middle of it.

Speaker 10 (19:12):
There's a lot of things going on, there's quite a
few balls in the earth, and but it's actually quite exciting, Frankly,
and I think if you're not up for it, Frankie,
you shouldn't be here.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Good on him. Well, I wish you well today. Nine
o'clock as the boat time. As I alluded to George Adams,
who's the Sinley board chair, Let's go to the States
in the moment. Richard Arnold next nineteen two.

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you still defend it, good luck to you. You're allowed to.
It's a democracy. But I give you, ladies and gentlemen,
I give you Wellington and all its issues, and I
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Speaker 2 (21:07):
Sid Richard Oar on morning, didn't what do you make?
Where are we at with the investigation?

Speaker 10 (21:11):
Well?

Speaker 17 (21:12):
President Biden says the Secret Service needs more resources as
this latest assassination attempt on former prison Trump as being assessed,
and it certainly needs to be gone over closely, doesn't it.
Former President Trump wrote on his social media that the
effort by the Secret Service was quote absolutely outstanding. Was
it the maniac with the semi automatic? Even though he

(21:32):
has a lengthy equivotal record had been sitting in the bushes,
we hear for about twelve hours at least they think.

Speaker 14 (21:37):
So where was his.

Speaker 17 (21:38):
Car with it parked just near the golf course since
two in the morning. Well we don't know yet. Thankfully,
the Secret Service agent saw the barrel of the weapon
pointing through the thick bushes and trees and open fire
before this individual was in direct side of Trump. However,
was this a one hundred percent success since the would
be assassin was not able to get off a shot,
or was it a close call? There was more a

(21:59):
case of good luck. The alleged one to be assassin
was about four hundred meters from Trump. The range of
his semi automatic with the scope that he had was
about two and a half times that distance. Experts that
would have been an easy shot. Monce Trump was in view,
which was only moments away. So prison Biden is calling
for security to be bolstered. Trump gets less security than

(22:20):
a sitting president. But this is a different time, a
very superheated political campaign. Even the acting head of the
Secret Service, Ronald Rose, says the agency needs a complete overhaul. Well,
that at best happened quickly. The accused gunment has been
charged so far with a couple of weapons counts, a
legal possession of a firearm as a convicted felon and
possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number. Flora's

(22:40):
governor Ron Desanta says he thinks the man should face
state charges of murder, which could bring a mandatory life
prison term, and more charges do seem likely. Meantime, Trump
called for unity and toning down the political retric when
he was shot in July.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Not this time.

Speaker 17 (22:54):
He and his associates are blaming the Democrats, and he
claims are running a campaign of hatred for calling try
threat to democracy, and his deputy JD Events is saying,
you know.

Speaker 8 (23:04):
The big difference between conservatives and liberals is that we
no one has tried to kill Kamala Harris in the
last couple of months, and two people now have tried
to kill Donald Trump in.

Speaker 7 (23:16):
The last couple of months.

Speaker 8 (23:17):
I'd say that's pretty strong evidence that the left needs
to tone.

Speaker 14 (23:21):
Down the rhetoric and needs to cut this crap out.

Speaker 17 (23:24):
This echoes what Trump back at Elon Musk posted the
other day when he wandered in a tweet, why quote
no one is even trying to assassinate Biden and Harris
Masque later called that a joke and took that post down.
Here's a brief sampling of Trump though from me just
the past seven days.

Speaker 14 (23:40):
You can end up in World War three.

Speaker 17 (23:42):
She's a Marxist, communist, fascist socialist.

Speaker 9 (23:46):
We must stop her country destroying liberal agenda once and
for all.

Speaker 18 (23:50):
She's a threat to democracy.

Speaker 17 (23:52):
New York Times reported Peter Baker Wright sitsts today in
an editorial quote. Trump long has favored the language of
violence in his political discourse, encouraging supporters to beat up
Heckler's storting to shoot looters and undocumented migrants, mocking a
near fatal attack on the husband of the Democratic House speakers,
suggesting that a general he deems disloyal be executed. And

(24:12):
on it goes forty nine days to the election.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Ers indeed, and then we come to Diddy, and I
suspect these wheels are going to turn for a while.

Speaker 17 (24:19):
Yep, this is lurid. The rapper sew did hey combs? P?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Did he puff?

Speaker 7 (24:25):
Whatever?

Speaker 17 (24:26):
Is in court today after federal prosecutors accused him of
sex trafficking and racketeering. He could face fifteen years to
life in jail with these charges, which include allegations of kidnapping, trafficking, arson, bribery,
other elements. Combes lawyers say they will fight all of
these charges. While prosecutor Damian Williams says did he would
organize sex shows which included many of those elements.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Combs allegedly planned and control the sex performances, which he
called freakoffs, and he often electronically recorded them. The freakoffs
sometimes last days at a time, involved multiple commercial sex workers,
and often involved a variety of narcotics such as ketamine, ecstasy,

(25:09):
and GHB.

Speaker 17 (25:10):
Also, Williams says of the situations.

Speaker 7 (25:12):
And Combs didn't get his way.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
He was violent, and he subjected victims of physical, emotional
and verbal abuse so that they would participate in the
freakofs and that Comb's hit kicked through objects at and
dragged victims at times by their hair.

Speaker 17 (25:29):
Prosecutors say others also might face charges over some of this.
They are opposing bail for Combs, whose lawyers have written
a note to the judge today saying Sean Combs has
never evaded, avoided, eluded, or run from a challenge in
his life, be a challenge, They are offering an extensive
bail package that includes a fifty million dollar bond, the
passports of his daughters and mother, the equity of the

(25:52):
home of his mother's place in Florida, and home detention
with GPS monitoring shoes.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
All right, we'll see you Friday. Appreciate it. Rich Arnold stateside,
we'll get back on the farm in just a couple
of moments. Nine to seven.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
The Mike hosting repist with Alveda Retirement Communities.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
And following with a little bit of interest is unfolding
in an appeals court in Washington, DC at the moment.
This is the business of the State of America against TikTok,
and so what they're looking for is the divestiture of
TikTok from bike Dance. TikToker running the argument that if
you make us do this, the company will close down.
And it's the end of free speeches. We know it,

(26:31):
And there's the First Amendment and all that sort of stuff.
The interesting point that was made yesterday, I've got some
sympathy with it. The platforms used by politicians and the
run up to this election felt hypocritical. If it were dangerous,
they wouldn't be there, which is actually not a bad argument.
But we must understand that it's the divestiture that's the issue,

(26:52):
not TikTok itself. So what the Americans are saying is
TikTok itself is just another social media platform, but the
fact that dances Chinese and controlled allegedly by the Chinese
government makes it dangerous. So if they sold TikTok to me,
they'd be happy with it. Meantime, Instagram has announced this morning.
I'll be fascinated to see whether this is workable that

(27:14):
they're going to park teen accounts, teenagers accounts in a
special area tagged and limit it. You can unleash yourself
a little bit, allegedly if you've got parental commission, but permission.
Everyone under eighteen creators included, are going to be put
into a teen account. They can remain public of the

(27:34):
parent is involved and gives them permission and are supervising
the account. But they're pretty big changes the role. That's
not immediate. New users will be defaulted into these accounts
upon sign up existing teen units. Teen users may not
see immediate changes. Many around the world ain't going to
see anything till next year. But this is their latest
attempt because the heat is on to try and tidy
their ACKed up five minutes away from seven shelly in and.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
The outs the fears with business favor take your business
productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Your cheap meat sector. Rabobank they've done the work watering
the green shoots in New Zealand. Sheep meat is what
they've called their report long term good outlook. Positive. Total
average export values though are down as we well know,
driven by global jeep little factors drop and exports to
China blah blah blah. Three recommendations This is the important
stuff to get more consistency in earnings. One is offering

(28:26):
more domestic consumption, which I thought was really interesting. So
domestic consumption of lamb in this country's only five percent
of total production. The rest we sell to the world.
Our per capita consumption of lamb is about one third
of Australia's. So if we were to increase our consumption
levels to equal Australias, then it would place the domestic
market behind only China in terms of overall consumption of
sheep meat. Now I hear what you're saying. At so expensive, well,

(28:49):
how come they eat it in Australia. It also recommends
having a closer look at trade and diversifying away from China.
That's not a new recommendation. It's not even a not
obvious one. I would have thought that all eggs and
one basket is not a good thing. They say there's
big opportunity in the UK, the US and parts of EU.
Certainly the US are buying our beef like there is
no tomorrow. Beefs through the roof. Beef's fantastic. Sheep meat

(29:10):
struggling a little bit. Third, and then you get the
wall problem. Of course, Third is to increase sheep meat competitiveness,
put more research and resource into looking at technological advances
to help future proof the industry, R and D programs,
things like that. So you can't mark them down old
rabobank for not coming up with some half decent ideas.
But that domestic consumption thing is really interesting. So would

(29:30):
you eat more lamb? Why aren't you eating more lamb?
We make the best lamb in the world. Why don't
you want to consume the best lamb in the world.
Or is it simply the price point is too high.
And if the price point is too high, is that
not good because it means it's set locally, because internationally
we're getting a heap of dough. Interesting youth. Wee you
in a couple of moments. Then we'll rip into the

(29:51):
business of the common Chero's and all their charges.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
The breakfast show you can try us the mic Hosking
Breakfast with the Jaguar f beat cut from a different
class news togs had.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Been seven past seven. So the police seem on a
real roll at the moment, don't they when it comes
to gang's major headhunter's bus the other week now charges
all over the place for the common Terro's. The claim
is that virtually every single Commonterero is facing charges or
at least some sort of court time forty one individuals,
one hundred and thirty seven alleged defense as sociologists and
gang expert Jared Gilbert with US Jared Morning, Good morning, Mike.

(30:22):
I can't remember when a gang in almost totality has
been busted, can you.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Well, there's only one time that I can recall it happening, actually,
and that was up in Nelson with the Red Devils.
They formed of the feeder group to the Hall's Angels,
and the entire chat was taken out there. Unfortunately, Mike,
the outcome of that wasn't great because those charges were
overblown and there was some discrepancies with the way the
police had collected evidence. So all they'd all fell over

(30:51):
and that group became Hell's Angels. Okay, I think it
will be a little more successful.

Speaker 10 (30:55):
I've got to say.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, I was going to say, do you revel in this?
It seems at last to some degree that the authorities
are on top of the sort of criminal behavior.

Speaker 10 (31:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
I think this. I mean, this is a really big bust.
And this is why I think they'll be the things
will be successful in this. We're could see the evidence,
of course, Mike, but you know there's a there is
a heck of a lot of kilograms of drugs have
been confiscated, hundreds of thousands of dollars. So make no
bones about it. This is a really significant bust, and

(31:26):
it appears though it's basically taken out the common generals.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, does it get filled the gap?

Speaker 7 (31:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (31:34):
Look, unfortunately it does, right, because I mean it's quite
like this, if a big coffee supply tomorrow at Grigg's
Coffee or whoever, just decided not to supply the market
for whatever reason. In New Zealand, demand for coffee would
remain exactly the same, and so others will just come
in and fill that.

Speaker 10 (31:50):
Right.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
So if we want to really tackle the drug trade,
then we've got a focus on the demand side, so
addictions stopping people getting into meth for example. However, that
does not mean because you could trug the shoulders at
that point you say, well, what's the point of these dusts?
Then well they are incredibly important and you can make
no bones about that, And the reason for that is

(32:13):
that it stops well, one, there's an element of trust.
Its people breaking your lordship, your help to account firstly,
but perhaps even more importantly than that in this instance,
is that it stops these crooks gaining really significant financial
assets which can then be used to corrupt the system.
So knocking that head off as you can't just can't

(32:36):
be understated.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Obviously, I don't I'm no expert in this, but it
does surprise me that at the size of these operations,
because you don't get that big without the authorities understanding
something that is going on. Is there something in the
legal system that prevents them acting earlier and smacking them
at an earlier stage before they get this big and
this effective, well.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
Will These series of operations have been going on for
I think one three years. Yeah, so it does take time,
but the reason for that is you want to make
sure that your net has caught as much as possible.
I mean, even an operation, say it comes into a port.
If you cons if you find contraband in a container
at a port, for example, oftentimes it's far better to

(33:18):
let that container leave the port. See who picks it up,
where the contraband goes to, who else is involved, So
you can actually get wide a net and the other
part of us which is really important because we when
we look at organized crime, we tend to just think
of the people slinging drugs, for example, but actually there's
people who launded the money exactly. You know, there's there's

(33:39):
the people that are wholesale. So there's actually far bigger
fish to fry sometimes. So that's why these operations can
take quite a long time. Obviously the police want to
be fair.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, not fair enough to good on sight. I appreciate it, Jared.
As always Jared Gilbert, sociologist and gang expert Mark Mitchell
have plenty to say about this as well. As genny
of course up to right a clock, just to give
you an indication, one hundred and thirty seven charges at
this particular point. Since twenty one, they've been involved. Two
hundred and six kilograms of myth, two hundred and six kilograms,
one point seven six kilograms of coach a virtually none,

(34:09):
so they're all in the meth game. Two point six
kilograms of cannabis, one point two seventy five million dollars
in cash, nine point two million dollars in assets. They've
got five properties and fourteen vehicles, so that is a
major operation. Eleven minutes past seven, tasking have we come
to education? Part of the reason we have a teacher
shortage is basically no one wants to be a teacher.
New stats this morning, number of those signing up has

(34:30):
halved since twenty ten, and those going on to graduators
drop by a third. The Secondary Principal's Association President Voron
Coyez back with this is born, very good morning to you.

Speaker 10 (34:39):
Up to money, Hey, how are you very well?

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Indeed, those stats are a dire old thing, aren't they.

Speaker 19 (34:44):
Ah, they hurt, and they've been declining for some time,
and we've been sort of waving the flag at multiple
governments across multiple years to say this is going to
come and bite us, and it's biting, right.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I don't think it's money. Money helps. If I offered
you more money, you'd say, sure, why not. But to
take something on like teaching, you've got to want to
do it, and money can't be the sole reason, which
is all I ever hear. It's got to be more
complex than that, doesn't it.

Speaker 19 (35:15):
Well, while we went to that period of full employment
just after COVID, you know that twenty two to twenty
three sort of seasons where people couldn't get employees but
the borders hadn't quite opened and all that sort of stuff,
it was about money. People were leaving teaching because they
could literally get paid fifteen or twenty grand more at
an entry level job in the private sector, because of course,
the private sector was bound by that public sector. The

(35:37):
public sector was bound by that public sector pay restraints stuff,
and so we did have some money issues. And also
when you're going into teaching, when you're finishing a degree,
and my son's in exactly this situation. They're finishing his degree,
all of us mate to going I think I'm going
to go get a job so that gives them fifty
or sixty grand whatever they're going to be going to
go and do, whereas he's got to go do I

(35:58):
want to not have an income for another year and
pays additional student fees, So he puts himself quite a
bit behind everybody else.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
And you've got to spend your life in front of
a bunch of scruts. And that's the problem, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (36:13):
Actually, Actually about ninety eight with the end of them
were pretty awesome, mate to me.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
No, I know, I knew you'd say. But that's the point,
isn't it. I mean, it doesn't matter what you've got
to love what you do and of the environment it's
not right and all that stuff. That's your real issue,
isn't it.

Speaker 19 (36:28):
Pretty Much if you go into teacher training and you
go on your first practicum, you know in the first
half a day whether this bag is for you, and
so it is a calling. But also it's a global situation.
So we're pretty harsh in New Zealand looking at ourselves.

Speaker 10 (36:42):
Are going, good grief, what a we're doing wrong?

Speaker 19 (36:44):
Actually, there's a global teacher shortage. I was talking to
my offsider in Australia who does the same thing as me.

Speaker 10 (36:49):
Over there, they've.

Speaker 19 (36:51):
Got exactly the same conditions that we've got. I was
talking to a guy in the UK recently. The teacher
shortage in the UK is extreme, so it's a global
phenomenon where people aren't going into teaching. It is becoming
more challenging with regard to the non curriculum based demands
that have been placed on the school sect across the globe.

(37:12):
But it's a fantastic job, so I've been got to
get into it.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Well good anyone, good sales, Patrick, well done, and I
hope we can turn it around. AI might help eventually
for in Coyo, the Secondary Principals Association President fourteen minutes
past Sevensky Lamb far too expensive in New Zealand. Can
buy our lamb cheaper win overseas and butter as well.
Go figure, Well, that's a size thing. When a place
with a population of sixty six million people goes and
buys a lot of LAMB, that's why the individual price

(37:36):
per unit goes down.

Speaker 10 (37:37):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
It's not just the lamb's too expensive, but the quality
is also poor. That's simply not true. If you want
good quality lamb. The best lamb in the world. You
can find it still in this country. Mike. We love lamb,
but New Zealand cheaper in Ireland than Auckland. So it's
the old argument about what we do overseas some countries.
If you look at oil, for example, in Saudi Arabia,
they don't index it, so in other words, they don't
sell it on the international price. They make it cheaper locally, Mike,

(37:59):
Why would anyone not eat lamb? It's certainly one of
my favorites. So many simple Greek recipes available online. Slow
roasted leg of lamb with lemon, garlic, oregano, mustard and
olive oil, blended and poured over the legs sitting on
potatoes three hours in the oven.

Speaker 14 (38:15):
I mean, come on, just cancel the rest of the
show and go.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
And if you're not hungry, something wrong with your fifteen
past the Mike.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
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Speaker 2 (38:28):
Mike, I was thinking about being being a teacher. Recently,
I was told by four different teachers do anything but
become a teacher. They all reported too much unnecessary paperwork,
adding hours of work to their week, too much political
b as policies way underpaid for the hours they put on,
all of whom are averaging fifty five plus hours a week.
Michael will be fascinating to hear what Ginny has to
say about the gang arrests. Why couldn't her government do
something about it? Well, then her defense, the operation yesterday

(38:51):
was a culmination of three years work. This government's only
been in power for one year, so that operation was
well underway under her watch. It's not easy to be
qualified as a teacher. The training institutes are a mess.
Aukland Union is still based on race one hundred percent.
I'm not sure that that's true. Speaking of institutes, AUT
we raised on the program with the Prime Minister yesterday,
AUT and their business of giving extra Marx if you like,

(39:14):
if you apply, if you work for them and you
want to travel somewhere overseas, if you're Mari or Pacific,
you get more marks automatically just by race than anybody else. Would.
We put this to the Prime minister. He hadn't heard
this their statement, but he's onto it, and I'll tell
you about that. In a moment. Aut yesterday said there
is a critical shortage. They're defending this, of course, and
this is despite the government saying we want a colorblind
public service. I ask yourself where aut and etc. Get

(39:36):
all their money, and the answer is the government us.
There is a critical shortage of Marian and Pacific academic
staff in the university sector, and our policy supports the
need to address this. They proactively supports Maray achievement in
tertiary education as part of our commitment to tatidity. Our
approach to academic travel opportunities reflects this commitment. We stand
by this. Well, that's fine. You can stand by it
till you blow in the face, but you're now breaking

(39:57):
the rules. A government of the day is the government
of the day. You may not agree with them, but
they're the ones giving you the money. And this is
my great concern and I tried to raise it several
times with the Prime Minister. Yes, you're seeing it in
the judiciary places like the White Tangi Tribunal. You're seeing
it in the public service, the leaks around David Seymour's
work on the Treaty Principles Bill, and now you're seeing

(40:17):
it at university level. They're saying, I don't care what
your rules are. We're going to do what we want
to do. So the good news and we'll follow this
one up as Penny Simmons, the Minister is due to
meet we understand with aut today and hopefully she goes
with a message from the top down that this stops now.
Seven twenty.

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is on somewhat of a roll. And here is the
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(42:11):
produced at a time the economy is still rubbish and
it's entirely possible. We're still in a recession. So things
for labor especially to worry about. One the Coalition have
sixty seven seats, that's an easy majority. Two every single
issue bar one, they're now more trusted on. In areas
like the economy and spending, the government win by a mile.
The gap is embarrassing. The only area of Labour claim

(42:31):
victory in Nardays's poverty, and even then they claim it
by one point three. The right Way Wrong Way tracker
has turned in spectacular fashion since the election. Many argue
this is the true indication the government support. Get the
country going right, You're in every time four the Labour
leader's popularity has tanked the favorability. Unfavorable numbers have created
Chris Hipkins, isn't liked, isn't backed. Is as they say

(42:54):
in America underwater. Now fair is fairs just a poll,
not an election. But get some steam in the economy,
get a growing level of confidence as the Reserve Bank
cuts those rates and people start to spend and feel
good again. Get some real growth and proceedings, and it's
at that point any government of the day starts to
feel like they're re electable. We've seen this past week
the seats, I mean, they're the shoots of progress, those

(43:15):
crime stats, the increasingly determined action around the treaty, the
reportage of schools talking of this change of culture after
a phone band. These are small but tangible wins. If
by the end of next year the economy is back
and the rest of the tangibles are falling into place,
and opposition will have very very little left in which
to enter election year with, and Chris Hepkins won't just

(43:37):
be underwater, he'll be out of a job. Pascar become
to Carmela Harris, who's been sitting down with some black
journalists today and said this.

Speaker 13 (43:45):
People are deeply troubled by what is happening to that
community in Springfield, Ohio. And it's got to stop. And
we've got to say that you cannot be entrusted with
standing behind and the seal of the President of the
United States of America engaging in that hateful rhetoric that,

(44:10):
as usual, is designed to divide us as a country,
is designed to have people pointing fingers at each other.
It's designed to do that. And I think most people
in our country, regardless of their race, are starting to
see through this nonsense and to say, you know what,

(44:35):
let's turn the page on this. This is exhausting and
it's harmful and it's hateful.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Quick game. How many times is she going to between
now and voting day? Say two in the page? Is
it more or less than ten thousand? Jdie Bounce has
been out as well, so we'll get to him in
just a couple of moments. On the program. Michael Friend's
daughter reteaches English at Selwyn, works twenty four to seven
on the weekends and holidays for what seventy K would you? Well,
I take your point or the inference of your point,

(45:03):
but you know as well as I do. No one
works twenty four to seven, and teachers certainly don't. And
that's the problem with the unionism of teaching. The ones
who do work, and the ones who are brilliant are
paid the same as the ones who aren't. And that
is a critical, critical mistake that no one in the
education sector seems to want to fix. Speaking of students,
you research for you shortly.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
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Speaker 2 (45:35):
Head be Politics Wednesday after eight Martin Jenny back for
Wednesday mentioning Karmla Harris is sat down with serious black
journalists today and done had a fairy, lengthy old discussion. Meantime,
JD's been out there in Michigan taking us through how
this is all unfolded for him when the pop pop
unfolded on the golf course in Florida.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
I actually, of course, heard about the news before almost
anybody else. I was sitting at home with my on
and we were doing you know what, my what we
always do when my.

Speaker 7 (46:03):
Wife's not around.

Speaker 8 (46:04):
We were playing video games. You know, we get that
like one hour, all right, we can play video games,
and then before mom comes back, we got to cut
that crap out. Sorry, honey, I just told all myself.
But we're sitting there and I get a phone call.

Speaker 7 (46:17):
Says Donald J. Trump. So I answer it and.

Speaker 14 (46:19):
He says, JD, you won't believe it.

Speaker 7 (46:20):
They just tried to do it again. I said, what
do they try to do?

Speaker 8 (46:22):
He said, well, they just tried to shoot me again.

Speaker 14 (46:24):
And I said what, No way.

Speaker 8 (46:27):
You know, I almost couldn't believe it when he first
told me, and I said, oh my god, sir, I'm
so glad you're okay, But you know you're physically okay.
Clearly you wouldn't be calling me, are you okay? In
all the ways that matter? And he said, yeah, I'm
doing fine, and that's just who he is. He just
gets shot, almost shot a second time, and he's totally fine.
He was a little annoyed about one thing though. You know,
he was mad because he was on the sixth hole

(46:49):
when he was about to make a birdie putt, and
he said, he said, I'm kind of pissed off they
wouldn't let me finish my birdie. I was having the
round of my life.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Twenty two minutes. By the way, good news story for
Canterbury in a couple of moments. But before we do
all of that, an insight in the fragility of our
young people. One in five of our fifteen to twenty
four year olds are experiencing what they call high psychological stress.
This comes from the work of S. Peter Gluckman's think tank.
They tell us children need to build better resilience. So
I suppose the question, or one of the questions, is
how do we do that? Doctor Felicia Lowe is with

(47:24):
us on all of this. Felicia, good morning to you,
Good morning Mike. The twenty percent is interesting because that
I suppose, if you want to be positive, glass half
full means eighty percent don't suffer high psychological stress. So
is that good or bad or we don't know?

Speaker 20 (47:39):
Twenty percent too many? I mean it's one in five
and you know that could easily be your own child,
or you know, your your nephew or niece, or you
know your good friend's child. You know, we want every
single young person in New Zealand to be able to
you know, feel mentally positive and to be able to
thrive in life. And if they're not feeling they're feeling

(48:00):
distressed all the time, that it's going to really impact
how they can function and live their lives.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
What is high psychological stress and how do you measure it?

Speaker 20 (48:10):
So it's basically in this case, I think the survey
was about the self report of you know, various measures.
There are tests that are available that have lots of
different questions and then you might answer, you know, yes
or no, all right, how you know strongly you agree
or disagree with them, and you know you come up
with the score and generally when you exceed a certain score.

(48:31):
That's how we distinguish whether someone is distressed or not.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Is it getting worse? Do we eno if it's getting
worse or not? I mean that the rhetoric would indicate
it's been never been harder to be a young person.
Is that true?

Speaker 20 (48:45):
Yes, yes, it is. What we have noticed is not
just that young New Zealanders are not doing well, but
it's been getting worse over the last you know, several
years or past decade. And yeah, a big reason for
this is that the Wilson is very different from the
world that you and I grew up in. And you know,

(49:08):
we've got things like, you know, the aftermath of a
global handem it, we've got climate change anxieties, we've got
the impacts of social media. So it's a really different
world that young people are growing up in the exposed
to all these different challenges that we have. And it's
not a surprise.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Really, this is not true to say though every generation
grows up in a different world, and every generation has
said since time memorial, We'll tell you what we're growing
up in a different world from when you and I
grew up.

Speaker 20 (49:35):
Yes, I mean I can understand that perspective, but these
are some very very very different issues that young people
are facing, and it's it doesn't matter I guess whether
it's different or you know, worse or better or whatever
than previous generations. The issue is that we know that
young people are not doing well and we have to
do something to.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Help them well well. Being a parent of so, I've
got some experience, and most of them, as it turns out,
in fact, all of them turn out to be in
the fifteen to twenty four bracket. I can tell you
as a parent, their attitude to life, their outlook on life,
how life affects them is different for each individual person,

(50:17):
despite the fact they've been raised in broadly speaking, the
same way. So that would indicate to me it's genetic
as opposed to societal.

Speaker 20 (50:25):
I wouldn't say, I mean, there are some aspects of
personalities that are innate for sure, And yes, I mean
there are many parents that can have anecdotes about how
one child is completely the opposite from you know, another child, Yeah,
despite being reached in the same environment. But we're looking
at a whole, like the population as a whole, and
I know it's easy to pick up examples where you

(50:47):
know there are these sort of unusual differences within a family,
but as a whole, we know young people are people
are not doing well, and we know that there are
some ways that we can do to help them. And
that's what we should be focusing on.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
And who should be doing that is that school? Is
that parents? Who is this all of us?

Speaker 20 (51:04):
So when I say we should be helping them, that
includes parents and caregethers, the schools or education system as
well as you know, policy makers who Mike develop policies
that can more broadly support parents and schools and the
communities to help our young children.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Nice to talk to you, Felicia, Felicia Lowe, who's out
of the Quoitu Center for Informed Futures. That's Sir Peter
Gluckman's very good work. Seventeen minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
It the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by News.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Talks at be well teen away from Mike Mbigauz of
last week, still asking new supplies to fill out a
document that clearly asks, if you're a Mario Pacific of business, simon,
we're going to piece all of these together. This goes
with the aut business somebody has just seen as a
copy of the EQC as in the Earthquake Commission, by
annial grants program. I didn't know they had a biennial

(51:57):
grants program, approximately a million dollars over two years. Projects
were expected to range from fifty thousand to a maximum
of one hundred thousand, and how they work. And I'm
gone through all of that, but we get to the
we get to the money. But EQC, or as they
call themselves, toker to k which they no longer have
to should do because the government's instructed them not to.

(52:20):
So see the argument here is this is not anti anything,
This is just following the rules of the day. And
so this is my ongoing concern that the government doesn't
actually run anything. People are running it for themselves while
at the same time expecting the government to fund them.

Speaker 15 (52:36):
Do we invoice them because I mean, yesterday the Prime
Minister seemed to give the impression that it wasn't until
we brought up.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Very good point, we're doing God's work, probably should be
something or should we be like Tom Cruise.

Speaker 14 (52:49):
We've got we've got two or three so far this.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Exactly, We've got MB, EQC, A U T.

Speaker 15 (52:55):
And so presumably somewhere in the Prime Minister's office. The
phone rings and goes right, asking's brought some more up. Again,
We've got to go and chase we sort it out.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Dedicated to promoting the participation of Mari in early career researchers.
To achieve this, fifty percent of the grants twenty five
percent for MARI relevant research and twenty five percent for
ECR LED so twenty five percent for relevant Maori research.
In other words, you go along, you go either I'm
Maori or preferably you go along and say I'm Maory
and I want to research this aspect of Maori. In

(53:27):
regards to the EQC, how you would do that, I
have got no idea, But nevertheless they've got twenty five
percent of that set aside. So, in other words, half
of the research grant money is race based. So you know,
this is not about whether that's right. It isn't right.
Obviously it's not right. You don't have race based policies.
But it's even more not right once the government's told

(53:48):
you it's not right and it needs to stop, which
then brings us to Torri far now speaking of things
that need to stop. So I'm slightly sent to the
subject of people's personal finances. Now having said that, she's
a public figure and she spends our money, and she's

(54:09):
on the radio yesterday morning and she tells Nick in
Wellington that she sold her car to make ends meat.
So she's running along the lines of first of all,
that famous bike rack that turns out to be a mistake.
She openly admits it's a mistake. So at least she's
finally realized what we all realize right from the start,
that half a million dollars for a bike rack, one
that isn't used to even for one that is used

(54:31):
every day for the rest of your life, is too
much money. It's wasteful. She then goes to defend that
by saying it's really, in the grand total of things,
not that much, because we've got billions of dollars, So
is half a million really that much? And that in
itself is of course the problem. Then she goes and
tells everybody how tough times are, which of course is true,
and because times are tough, she's gone and sold her

(54:52):
car to make ends meat. Now this is a woman
who and I didn't know this, she won one point
four million dollars on lotto in two thousand and two,
So one point four million dollars on lotter in two
thousand and two plus you in one hundred and ninety
thousand dollars a year and she still can't make ends meat.
So this is the slightly awkward bit in delving into
people's personal circumstances. Can I suggest if you can't make

(55:17):
ends meat on one hundred and ninety thousand dollars a
year and you're having to sell your car, you're probably
not good with money. Now, if you're not good with money,
can I further suggest you probably shouldn't be in charge
of anybody else's So how come you are?

Speaker 15 (55:32):
I'm a bit worried about this because Darling and tannas
that have told us the same thing, didn't she when
we suggested that perhaps being suspended on form?

Speaker 7 (55:41):
Where are the dots there?

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Green Glenn? Where are the dots?

Speaker 14 (55:44):
Do we need some kind of financial advice for people.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
In the Green Party? Yes? Probably ten minutes away from
eight cost.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Breakfast with the Jaguar f Base News talks.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Edb away from it. So here's another teck in the
old Canterbury box. Movers on forrticulture and more companies are
looking to move south and they like the cheaper land,
they like the reliable water. Increasing reports of more apples,
more grapes, pack houses, processing factories anyway. Vegetable's New Zealand
chair John Murphy, he's among those who've actually made the
move in John's with Us John Morning, Morning, Mike. So
you moved from Marlborough, Yes, we did.

Speaker 12 (56:19):
We started growing some garlic and shallots down there about
ten years ago and it hasn't all been sunshine on lollipops,
but we've grown some good crop down Do.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
You feel the vibe? Is there a thing on in
Canterbury in terms of land and water and all of
those sort of decisions you have to make.

Speaker 12 (56:35):
Look, wherever we have good land and good water available,
it certainly increases our options. So that's a really good thing.
But what I would say is it's not an extremely
simple process either. You can't just go from a proven
area where we grow so beautiful greens and hotta feno
or something like that and moving to another area without

(56:56):
some complexity involved.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Okay, and is that regular tree or is it logistical?

Speaker 10 (57:02):
A little bit of both, a little bit of all
of the above.

Speaker 12 (57:05):
So it's really good that the current government is prioritizing
water schemes. That's really important to us. What I would
say is that's needed in current areas as well as
ones where there's potential for growth as well. But there's
not much point in that if you don't sort the
other side of the equation as well, which is permitted activity.
So we need a national environmental standard, as I've talked

(57:25):
to you about before. If we get those things in place,
then there's actually really good opportunities out there.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Good are people cognizant of all of that and will
eventually get around to doing something about it or not?

Speaker 12 (57:36):
I think so?

Speaker 10 (57:36):
I think so.

Speaker 12 (57:37):
We're working pretty hard on that. But it's great to
see things like rocket apples being grown in South South Canterbury.
That that's really really positive and will help us get
to that doubling of the export values. But also new
opportunities mean that we can keep supplying fresh, healthy vegetableced
in New Zealand and fedging the country. So that's fantastic

(57:59):
good that hought.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
New Zealand was started a campaign this week for people
to support local I find it hard to believe that
people don't support local wouldn't you want to support local
fruit and vegetables.

Speaker 12 (58:09):
Well, I say, I certainly would. And the reality is
that precious best the stuff that comes from here as
world class and we just want people to add one
more to their dishes as much as they can.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
What about the Canterbury story they send to lack of
pack houses, stuff like that. If you start growing, will
those infrastructural things come, do you think?

Speaker 10 (58:29):
Look?

Speaker 12 (58:29):
Over time, I think they will, But I think there
just points to the fact that we need a national approach.
We need to be smart about these things. And quite
often what you see is there's good land available and
the people that know about that land are the people
that are farmed there for a while. So growers know
their own patch very very well. People that grow specific
products that haven't been grown in those areas know the products.

(58:50):
So about marrying the two together.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Good So good to catch up with you may appreciate
it very much. John Murphy Vegetables, New Zealand chair made
the move from Marble to Canterbury Canterbories going off if
I get time, and I should have done this earlier
in the week, but there was a very good piece
of work talking about councils, and I alluded to it
last week, but I didn't have the numbers, and I
now do. So S and P Standard and Pause downgraded

(59:13):
a couple of councils, namely Wellington. I had to sell
my car and Hamilton, and there were numbers associated with
that when they downgrade. Because your debts so high, you
pay more interest on your debt. And I didn't have
the numbers, but now I do. And it makes you
ill at the level of fiscal and competence in this
country and what councils are doing to us economically speaking.

(59:36):
But I'll come to that time later on when I
get a couple of moments. Got to brace ourselves for
the Ginny and Mark show or the Mark and Jinny Show.
I suspect it'll have something to do with police and
gangs and crimes and stuff like that. We'll see how
we go.

Speaker 16 (59:47):
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Speaker 21 (01:00:04):
I prefer to be quick.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
We can't fix this, would you guess the y s?

Speaker 14 (01:00:12):
Yeah, because all the songs sound exactly the same.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
That's what I was about to say. This could have
been made in nineteen ninety eight, twenty thirteen, or twenty
twenty four.

Speaker 14 (01:00:21):
It's actually a fun game to play.

Speaker 15 (01:00:22):
Just put on any of their songs and do the
famous one over the top of it.

Speaker 14 (01:00:25):
And if that's every single.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Time, is the refinement time?

Speaker 15 (01:00:29):
If I lie here, if I just slay here, eat
the works?

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Is that the sort of tell that you bring to
am dram.

Speaker 15 (01:00:40):
Yeah, exactly that, which is why I don't do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Snow Patrol, the forest is the path. Quite nice. Actually,
I like that The forest is the path. Grasshopper twelve
tracks and fifty two minutes of snow patrol. If your
life was lacking snow patrol eight minutes past eight time.
Poor politics. Wednesday. That means Mark Mitchell's with us along
with Ginny Anderson. Good morning to both of you. I

(01:01:07):
really don't know. Do either of you get donations to
pay for clothing?

Speaker 20 (01:01:15):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (01:01:17):
Should you allowance?

Speaker 14 (01:01:24):
Do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Do you get an allowance?

Speaker 12 (01:01:26):
Mark All, I'm very lucky that Sirah has got a
much better fashion so I have, so I sort of
end up to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
It's funny you should say that because I often. I mean,
not that you're not suentorially adequate, but it appears, it
appears you wear the same thing all the time, which
is which is a blue suit and blue tie and white.

Speaker 12 (01:01:53):
I just foind it very easy. I don't need to
put too much thought to what I'm going to know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
No, it's quite right. Clive James started that many years ago,
wore the same thing every time on television, so you
never sort of criticized them, which is why I thought
of you, Ginny the other day. You were wearing last
week a very nice suit which was I mean, it's
very hard to tell with lights and all that, but
but it looked like tan yellow whatever with black black cst.

Speaker 12 (01:02:15):
Oh.

Speaker 22 (01:02:15):
Yeah, I bought it in what actually it was just
did a little shot in the Greaytown and I've had
it for years and it's just very comfy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
And yeah, I never say no, never say it's comfy,
because that's no. No, don't say stuff like that. Don't
say it's comfy.

Speaker 10 (01:02:33):
It's funny.

Speaker 12 (01:02:34):
It's just blessed gold and the common tiro colors. So
it probably I don't.

Speaker 22 (01:02:39):
Know, have to wear tartan, no mark.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
You know that is true. You can I'm assuming Ginny
with the Commentario thing claim some credit given the investigation
was three years long, and that means roughly two of
them were yours. I guess yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:02:53):
So Nover was the operation that kicked off in twenty
nineteenth and that was more focused from moneylaundering. So it
has been over three years exercise. But that's what happens,
you know, police. And full credit to Circintendent Franks Williams,
of which was him. He's an amazing police officer who
takes us work very seriously and once he's focused on

(01:03:14):
taking out a group of offenders, he's very determined and
usually gets the outcome he's looking forth. So it's great
for New Zealand to see such a huge operation of
myth in fetterman money, hondoring in general, misery pedling being
shut down by the police.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Do you reckon mark you are making and trying not
to make this too political, but the police then let's
ask it this way. The police are making a genuine
dent at last in the gangs in general.

Speaker 12 (01:03:39):
Oh, without a doubt. I mean this operation is quite
some of the outstanding policing and showcases just how good
our police are. And I just want to acknowledge them
full credit. I was down in christ Church when they
started the operation there and there we had over three
hundred police officers involved in this operation. So it's just

(01:04:00):
seeding result by them. Look, I think that you've seen
very clearly in the last eight months that there's been
a big change in the way that police are policing gangs.
They were taking over our provincial towns. They were doing
these convoy runs with our driving on time coming traffic
with a harassing and intimidating members of the public. That
stopped because the police have been said a very clear
direction that they're to put the proper resource in place.

(01:04:21):
Now they're using the police Eagle. We had three gang
runs last weekend the public that all public had their
own rights protected over and above the gangs. You don't
see them on the front pages of the paper anymore.
And by the way, we've still got a lot more
work to do, but we're definitely trepped in the right direction.

Speaker 21 (01:04:39):
Good Jenny, Sorry, Carry, I was going to say that
the big wave we saw was when those five boat
ones got kicked out of Australia and came back in
Common Heroes was part of that wave and the risks that.

Speaker 22 (01:04:51):
Now Australia have changed that law again that we could
say more coming back in the future, so that one
of flax and math and packed on the game landscape
in New Zealand. And now that Australian law has changed,
we need to watch carefully that we don't see another influx.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Do you, in your time in cabinet without giving cabinet
secrets away, did your government ever consider repatriating problematic Australians
back to Australia, And because we have historically chosen not
to do that.

Speaker 22 (01:05:21):
Yeah, we did look at options and looked at that.
But the one problem is that Australian law is Australian
law and that sovereign and so a we so if
they change their law we have. All we can do
is negotiate and that's exactly what we get that part.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
But we can send the bat like there's a broken
prison here at the moment for doing a lot in
christ it's a while back. Who was Australian We could
sign them?

Speaker 22 (01:05:44):
Yeah, yeah, we just don't have that many. We could,
but we don't have as many. We do we do
when they're really bad, but we just don't have the
numbers Okay, so we do we.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Do do that, because my understanding.

Speaker 10 (01:05:56):
Was we never do.

Speaker 12 (01:05:58):
We do see them, but but the number is disproportionate. Obviously,
the number that we've seen it back to Australia as
much sport than the numbers are sending back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Okay, break, come back, carry on.

Speaker 12 (01:06:09):
Now it's going to say, look, we raise us. The
Prime Minister has raised us with the Australian Prime Ministers,
with the Council of Ministers in Australia mel last week.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
We raise this possibly, yeah, exactly, and you get nowhere. Unfortunately,
mind you, I five was Australian and I do the
same thing. Mike and Ginny Moore in a moment thirteen
past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Zippi News Talks a sixteen past eight Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell,
Ginny Anderson Ginny. I've been following with interest. I personally
think you're overegging it a bit, but nevertheless I understand
why you're doing it. Your your prosecution of Nicole m
Key and what she's trying to do with guns in
this country. What, in simple terms, is your great concern
about her being in charge of gun reform that.

Speaker 22 (01:06:54):
She has proposed to wind back all changes we made
in twenty nineteen in the combination of just too much
she has she has. She said that she's pledged that
she well, she's wound back already what happens on the
gun range, which to create a loophole where you can
get our own now without recording it. She said she'll
keep a category weapons out of the registry, which is

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seventy percent of features that police get it for legal guns,
and she won't rule out bringing back military style weapons.
Now when you've been for like the common heroes who
are using paramilitary training tactics and want to get their
hands on dat rius guns, and you've got someone proposing
to make it easy to get one, that's a real
risk for New Zealand public safety.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
But that's all the illegal side of the equation, though,
isn't it, Which is the debate that came out of
christ Church whether law abiding citizens were being inconvenienced and
that if you were, you know, a bad bugger, you'd
still get your hands on weapons. And I mean, and
that's in that nothing's changed, does it.

Speaker 22 (01:07:49):
Fifty percent of police investigations around diverted firearms. So legal
firearms that end up to be in the hands of
someone else revolve around licensed firearm owners. Know that licensed
fireum owners are purchasing with it and passing them a
criminals and the firearm READI Street is the best way
to track there. And police will say that, and I
think Mike believes.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
That as well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
And you're behind the registry aunt you.

Speaker 12 (01:08:11):
Mate, Yeah, absolutely, And but what what he's doing is
fear amonger. She's not the facts. Nicole McKee is the
Associate minist of Justice. She is doing a review of
the arm sect. The changes she made around them around
the hunting clubs was quite simply a technical one to

(01:08:33):
do with administration, and any changes that are going to
be made, any substantive changes were made will have to
go through cabinet. And none of the things that Ginny
has is talking about, it's been proposed.

Speaker 22 (01:08:43):
Okay, well she hasn't had a change. You no longer
need to record the sales of firearms or amminition on
gun rangers. That's been done. And there are real concerns
I've heard from police that criminal can get onto Arrange
and pretending not purchased nine boxes of Blitz use three

(01:09:05):
and pocket the rest and there's no way of tricking
that now. Previously that couldn't be done, and now that can.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Be all right. So say Jenny's right, Mark, and what
what she suggests does come to pass or get before cabinet,
Are you, as policemanister, comfortable with them?

Speaker 12 (01:09:20):
Well, I think it's fair for me to say that
anything Ginny says needs to be verified. But absolutely, Look,
this has got to go through a cabinet process.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I understand that. So say she's right, and it's in
front of cabinet now and you've suddenly got are you
comfortable with it?

Speaker 12 (01:09:35):
So all I say is this, I can't talk to
future cabinet decisions that will be totally inappropriate. What I
say is this, this government is fully focused on making
the public safer, and com d is fully focused on
doing the same thing. When you look at her history,
she has been an advisor around public safety for a
long time on firearms. But the problem that we had,

(01:09:55):
as we had the last government, was focused in all
the wrong places. We've seen a massive pliffery the firearms
within the criminal fraternity and they are the ones that
are risk of the public.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Okay, do you think Ginny as passionate as you may
be about the subject, it's actually one of those issues
that can turn the tide for a government or otherwise,
or in other words, most people who don't own guns
don't care.

Speaker 22 (01:10:17):
I think it can, and I think Mark is deep down,
I think he is consumed because he knows that she
des public safety as her desires. But she gets regular
briefings from firearm's lobby. She's getting more information from them
from even her own officials, and we know that through
the OIA process. So she has got a very clear
agenda about making those high end military style weapons available

(01:10:40):
on ranges. And the risk is if they're available in rangers,
they can find their way into the hands of criminals,
and that is dangerous for New Zealand. And I think
Mark would know that because it's frontline police officers who
are most at risk when those guns get in the
wrong hands.

Speaker 12 (01:10:55):
Well, so that most of my life has been dedicated
to public safety, in the safety of US as a country,
and I will not that anything happened, certainly while I'm
sitting in Kevin a cabinet that would that would do
anything to put the public at risk. And I know
that I'm completely united with all of my cabinet colleagues
across this coalition and government, and it's quite the opposite.

(01:11:16):
We're very focused on making our country one of the
safest countries in the world because we were beat rapidly
under the previous government.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
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(01:13:10):
a big bust up over housing and it probably won't happen.
There's Elbows furious, but it probably won't happen this time
because mainly Elbow, as Murray I'm sure will tell us,
is on the nose and if he went to the
people now, he would be in all sorts of trouble.
What Murray's also going to tell us about is this
little kreken Dan Andrews, who ruined Victoria. There's a report

(01:13:31):
out of a detailed report that deals to a car
accident that Andrews was involved in a number of years ago.

Speaker 14 (01:13:39):
Is it's literally the plot from Rake, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
It's very, very, very similar. So Andrews and his wife
are involved in a car accident. Police investigates say nothing
to see here. This is a number of years ago.
It's still heading to the Supreme Court because the victim
of the accident, a young man as he was at
the time, fifteen years old called Rye, is after some compensation.

(01:14:02):
A report is actioned the report finds it's implausible that
one what Dan Andrews said happened happened, and two that
what the police were told happened happened and what the
police investigated and came to the conclusion of happened. None
of it adds up. And that's before you get to

(01:14:24):
the Dan Andrews decision around the Commonwealth Games, which is
only going to cost them four hundred million dollars not
to hold it because he's basically a decade. So Murray
Old's on that and other matters after the News, which
is next he reduws togs.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Like those not becoming teachers are following their dreams into
other employment like YouTuber or influencer. It's funny you should
say that, Elan, there was some international research out the
other day and I've got it, but I don't have
time for it now. Fifty seven percent and they did
the numbers. We did the numbers here locally and next
to no one, this is through the ID, next to
no one who's called an influence when this country actually

(01:15:20):
makes any money. They make handfuls of dollars, but very
few people actually make a living out of it. And
it's not dissimilar internationally. And fifty seven percent of young
people and I think it was twenty four and under
want to be an influencer, as though that's even a
real thing. Anyway, more on that later if I get time.
Twenty three to.

Speaker 16 (01:15:37):
Nine International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Trust to Tas Murray Old's greetings to you, Michael, good
morning headline. I read yesterday business chiefs confront PM for
taking economy backwards. It was a thing last night did
they did they get stuck into them?

Speaker 10 (01:15:53):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Yes and no.

Speaker 18 (01:15:55):
Very significant dinner here in Sydney last night Albanezi the keynote,
the keynote address, and this was the annual dinner for
the Business Council of Australia. So these are the heavies,
the bankers, the miners, the very big players at the
top end of the Australian economy, and they are kind
of united, are saying, listen, you've got to start doing
some decent reforms. Stop loading up the union side of

(01:16:18):
this equation and bashing us all the time. Don't forget
we're the ones who actually employ people. Now, it's not
just Albaneze's fault. I mean, the margins in Parliament over
here are so fine. Not if Dutton was in now,
he wouldn't be taking on any big tasks either. It's
just too dangerous politically because you know, have a look

(01:16:38):
at the Senate over here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Now.

Speaker 18 (01:16:40):
Labour's got a pretty good plan to try and get
more people into housing, but for political reasons, the Greens,
who are extreme weirdos out there and the far you know,
the loony tunes out there, have sided possibly with the
Coalition to block this fairly modest labor housing initiative. That's
what we've come to here. And business says, listen, we're

(01:17:00):
getting caught in all of this.

Speaker 7 (01:17:02):
They're worried that.

Speaker 18 (01:17:03):
Labor is arming the union movement with these fairly well
extremely broad in businessesses view ability to have pattern bargaining
on wages and conditions across industries, not just work site
by work site, but across industries. It's a very turbulent
space over here now and the government last night was

(01:17:23):
really in the spotlight. Alban Easy offered nothing that I've
been able to discern this morning to try and appease
this business concern. But the union power, the growth of
union power is a very real and very serious policy
over here as far as business leaders are concern. They're
talking about red tape, green tape, and black tape, basically
strangling the joint and it's it's not going to go away.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
No, it is not. And as regards the housing thing
that he's getting particularly upset about, I can I take it,
we can rule out a double the solution, although it's
not technically he's not going to the people, is he.

Speaker 18 (01:17:58):
Look no, look for a couple of reasons. I mean, one,
you have to have the same bill defeated in.

Speaker 10 (01:18:03):
The Senate.

Speaker 18 (01:18:05):
Exactly, the same bill defeated in the Senate twice with
three months in between. So he's run out of time
for that. It's just a bit of political showmanship because look,
having this fight with the Reserve Bank, it's not gonna
I mean, the Reserve Bank isn't going to bow to
the government. It just can't afford to do that because
the other side will get in next time.

Speaker 7 (01:18:24):
You know, I'll be under pressure from.

Speaker 18 (01:18:25):
The conservative side. So what Albaneze is confronted with now
is a diabolical situation. I mean he's losing union support,
for example, the decision to put administrators into the powerful
construction union. And he's losing business support because he's too
chicking to take on any reform and will not listen
to their concerns about union power.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
I reckon he's going to be one term government.

Speaker 18 (01:18:49):
Well, we'll watch this space. I mean, the poles are
very very tight now. And you and I have been
sparring about this for the last two.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Years exactly, Dan Andrews. This report I read yesterday from
this poor kid Muleman, back in twenty thirteen. And I
know this is in front of the court, and I
know this as a bloke they've hired to write the report.
But when you read it, my word, it's compelling.

Speaker 7 (01:19:10):
Well it is.

Speaker 18 (01:19:10):
And this guy isn't some you know, some halfway from
the corner store. This guy, he's now deceased, but he
was asked to write a report. He wasn't at the
time an assistant police commissioner in Victoria. So he's got
a serious position. He's a serious police officer, a career officer.
And he said the whole situation around this accident involving

(01:19:30):
Daniel Andrews, his wife, the three kids in the car
in a government funded vehicle knocking over a cyclist. He said,
the whole this police officer said, the whole investigation stunt
to high heaven.

Speaker 14 (01:19:42):
The guy was hit so hard he flew.

Speaker 7 (01:19:45):
Over the top of the suv.

Speaker 18 (01:19:49):
At the scene. Police did not breath test. Daniel Andrews
did not to his wife. His wife gave her name,
her maiden name, and the obvious inference there, according to
the critics, is that she was trying to minimize any
publicity for a husband who was, of course a rising politician.
The whole thing smells to high heaven. And yet Andrews

(01:20:09):
and his wife have come out. I mean, this guy's
as reel as a veterian shark. And my view, I mean,
have a look at his performance in COVID.

Speaker 10 (01:20:15):
He was a joke.

Speaker 18 (01:20:16):
And they've come out yesterday saying that this is a conspiracy.
Theory is dressed up as journalism. Let's wait and see
if this has got any legs. But I'll tell you what,
this whole thing smells to high heaven.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
The infancy, they were stationary, and the got t boned
by the bike. This guy's report says they were at
speed and doing a corner and as a result of
the corner that they are on the wrong side of
the road. And it's just yeah. And then and then
you come to Daniel Andrews Part two, which is his genius.
How he gets to write not anymore because he's not there,

(01:20:46):
but a four hundred million dollar check to the Commonwealth
Games people, who pass some of it on to Glasgow
for his old do the games? No, I won't. I mean,
what's the idea it does?

Speaker 14 (01:20:55):
That pathetic?

Speaker 18 (01:20:56):
I mean, this was the swaggering fool who said, oh,
we can hold the Games next weekend. We've got the facilities.
The guy was a complete muppet. There was no way
known they could afford it. And you know, as the
bills started mounting and as his government went further and
further down the toilet, just running out of cash.

Speaker 7 (01:21:14):
I mean, at the time they said.

Speaker 18 (01:21:16):
You know it was going to cost whatever it was
going to cost. I've just figured the exact figure, say
one and a half billion dollars just to put the
games on. All of a sudden, in eighteen months it
went out to seven billion dollars. Andrews is all of
a sudden saying, oh, we can't do it, We can't
do it. How embarrassing. This is the country here. Look
at the last Olympic Games. Although you know, on per
capita basis, New Zealand kicked Australia in the bum of

(01:21:38):
course at the Olympic Games in Paris. That Australia's held
the Commonwealth Games five times. It's the Commonwealth bully. Look
at the facilities we have over here. You're really telling
me it's going to cost seven billion dollars. I mean,
of course it's not. It's just nonsense. Victoria was running
out of money, Andrews was drowning in his own you know,
self importance in Hubris.

Speaker 7 (01:21:58):
So Glasgow is.

Speaker 14 (01:21:59):
Going to get it and have it.

Speaker 18 (01:22:00):
Who's playing half a billion dollars to war Australian Muggins.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Is It's unreal And I'm still convinced that it's there.

Speaker 7 (01:22:06):
Was.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
It came along at the election time and he had
the model, and the model was to go regional. It
wasn't going to be held in Melbourne. It was all
around the regions. He needed the regional vote, suck them in,
get them to vote for him. He got re elected. Whoops,
can't hold the games. I think that's good.

Speaker 18 (01:22:21):
What this does?

Speaker 10 (01:22:22):
I think?

Speaker 18 (01:22:23):
And I've been covering Olympic Games for over thirty and
commor Games for over thirty years now. I've been to
a dozen of them. It just exposes, doesn't it, the
cost for individual cities of trying to bug these things on.
It's going to come to I mean, have a look
at the World Cup. It was shared between countries for goodness,
say South Korea and Japan.

Speaker 14 (01:22:40):
It's going to go to that.

Speaker 18 (01:22:41):
It's going to have swimming in Sydney and you know
track and Field and Brisbane or in Auckland and christ
Church and wellingcon will share it as well. The cost
of becoming prohibitive.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
All right, make got imight to appreciate time. See Friday
Olds out of Australia. Here this Wednesday morning on the
Mike hosting Breakfast eight forty five.

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Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
It is twelve minutes away from line. Mike, do you
think Tory Fano and Dan Andrews a Facebook friend? It's
very funny, just quickly I grabbed that thing. I was
mentioning gen zs globally. This is fifty seven percent of
gen Z does want to be influencers, so more than
half of young people basically want to be that. They
think this is their future. There are four point two
billion these are interesting numbers, four point two billion social
media users in the world. Of those, two hundred million

(01:23:25):
are creators or individuals who monetize their audience. So two
hundred million out of four point two billion, only four
point seven percent make any real money from it. Most
of them, in fact, almost half make fifteen thousand dollars
or less, So there's no real dough in it. What
would you call a half decent didnt come fifty to
seventy five K, Well, ten percent can do that, seventy

(01:23:46):
five to one hundred k five percent. The real money
at two hundred plus is only seven percent, So very
few people ever actually go on to make any real
money out of influencing. So as much as you may
dream of it, it's not particularly real, and I don't
think of change. Just also on the council thing that
I alluded to, with the downgrade and credit ratings from
S ANDP to a number of councils around the country.

(01:24:07):
A lot of them have been stung. Wellington most famously
Double A Hut City Poriiruers City Bay a plenty regional
drop to double A minus, Horror fen who were downgraded
to A plus. Hamilton City absolute disaster. Wellington's got one
point seventy five billion dollars worth of debt. Hamilton the
downgrade to its one point oh four billion dollars worth

(01:24:29):
of debt. The council forecasting more than three hundred thousand
dollars more money. Now what's the three hundred thousand dollars.
That's three hundred thousand dollars a year more for interest,
interest only, just the increase on the interest, not the
total interest bill, just the increase on the interest bill

(01:24:51):
on your debt. You're not paying off your debt, you're
not decreasing the amount you paying interest, You're increasing And
so that's applicable. Some of the other numbers around the
councils are a little bit smaller, depending on their debt levels.
But every time you downgraded, and councils are increasingly being
downgraded because they carry too much debt. Every time you're downgraded,
the cost of carrying that debt because you're at greater
risk goes up. So you are taking more money from

(01:25:14):
rate payers and putting it literally nowhere other than the
bank's back pocket. And what sort of way to run
a business is that? Ten away from nine the.

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What an excellent question and the answer to that can
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homework in Britain, because there is no end of councils
in that particular part of the world where they go
we go. There is no end of councils in that
particular part of the world who are on the verge.
If not, bust and read up on where they are
and who they are and how the central government all
of a sudden has to become involved at the inaptitude

(01:26:52):
of local level. And it goes to that great debate
as to how much control local entity should have versus
how much control central should have. Local goes get out
of our lives, let us get on with the local
until of course they buggered they got no money. Then
they can't run to Wellington or London fast enough and
so it's well worth looking up. But it's a very

(01:27:12):
good question. I wouldn't be surprised before long of a
number of our councils are in that particular predicament. Five
minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
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on now.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Now we go back to that Trump Harris debate I
had earlier on there was a bit of a story
floating around about poles there set there was an indication
I couldn't I couldn't nail it down specifically enough to
present it on the program this morning, but there's an
inference that she got a bit of a bump out
of that particular debate. Anyway, for the first time one
of the hosts has addressed the criticism about the fact
checking in the way they conducted it. This is David Muir.

(01:27:45):
He was on another one of ABC shows and he
was asked about it.

Speaker 23 (01:27:48):
I always say, as a moderator, you know what the
candidates decide to do with that time. You can ask
the questions, but they'll answer with whatever they choose to
answer with.

Speaker 7 (01:27:57):
That's right, and you.

Speaker 23 (01:27:57):
Have to be ready for whatever might come your way,
even the most unexpected of moments. As you all know,
you know what I'm talking about, and I will say this.
All of the noise that you hear afterward about you
know which candidate won the debate?

Speaker 7 (01:28:11):
Did the moderators win or lose?

Speaker 23 (01:28:12):
That's just noise. You all know that the most important
thing to remember is that you all have the power.
Everybody at homes the power.

Speaker 15 (01:28:21):
I feel like there's an opportunity for you to run
courses and how to do these things properly. You know,
that's if you've got time after you've run the financial
security course with the Green Party.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Obviously exactly he honestly I watched those two I can't
even remember the woman's name, but they could have been
AI generated. They were so bad. And it's just they
could And he's right to the extent, and it's an
abdication of a moderator's responsibility to say, I asked the
question and they choose to do with it whatever they want.

(01:28:53):
What a pile of crap. Why not just have a
robot that goes, what what'd you do with em aggression?

Speaker 15 (01:28:59):
And then let carry And also to say that who
won and who lost is just noise Yeah, isn't that
the point?

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
That is what the electoral process, Glenn is about. Indeed,
sometimes your genius, my genius just just blinds me, mesmerizes me.
But then you know, we're back to who's on tomorrow
after night?

Speaker 7 (01:29:17):
Let's just start.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Is Lee our old mate, Lee Child? I don't know
where we'll find him. Last time we found him in Colorado?
Was it Montana? I can't remember. Sort of moves around
America a lot, almost like check Riacher. Anyway, Lee Child
on the program tomorrow, Happy Days.

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