October 10, 2024 • 7 mins
An Australian Chief of Staff claims they’ve been bullied out of a job.
Jo Tarnawsky, former chief of staff to Richard Marles, says she was forced out of her job after seeking help over workplace bullying.
She claims that the Deputy Prime Minister essentially removed her from her role in a phone call in April, without the proper process.
Australian Correspondent Murray Olds told Mike Hosking that she’s apparently been locked out of her office since, unable to work.
He's unsure where this will land, but Olds says the Labour Party needs this like a hole in the head.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Across the towns of Murray Olds.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
How are you m good morning, Michael, pretty good? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good good? Richard Miles's former chief of staff? Is it Tenorski?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Tanowski?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I think Tanowski? Okay, So Joe's upset. She's not happy.
She didn't think she'd done anything wrong. She's been bullied
out of a job. She goes public. How bad is
this gibbon. There's quite a bit going wrong for the
government at the moment.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well, it doesn't help, does it. And you know the
liberal parties, the problem is the party with the women
problem quote unquote. But here's Labor. You know, a fairly
popular deputy prime minister acting prime minister at the moment.
The last thing Labour needs is to have a woman
of very long standing. She's known Richard Miles for well
(00:43):
over a decade and she was his chief of staff.
And that's a pretty important job, as you well know,
in a political office of that importance. Anyway, she was
getting undermined, whitehnted from below and this is what her
claim is getting bullied by junior staff in the offer.
She raised the concerns with the boss, Richard Miles and
the way home earlier this year, from Ukraine and said, listen,
(01:06):
these rat bags in the office are really getting up
my nose. He said, leave it with me, I'll fix it.
A few days later, a few weeks later, M sorry
you Beddle, look for a new job. So she's been
sitting there, apparently locked out of her office. Can't work.
It didn't pardon me. So she goes, she goes public
and she says, listen, I've been treated very, very unfairly.
(01:28):
This sort of conduct should not be permitted in Parliament
or anywhere else for that matter. So where this lands,
I'm not sure, but Labour needs this like a hole
in the head.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I reckon for Payman's new party, which is called Australia Voice.
I noticed in her I think it might have even
been her initial interview that she couldn't really work out
whether the party would have rules around crossing the floor,
which is ironic given she crossed the floor to form
a new party. Is this going anywhere?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well? Look, I was thinking about this in the last
forty eight hours, to be honest, knowing she was going
to put her head up yesterday. Lot of two people
I thought of Pauline Hanson all those years ago. One
nation is she going to get near well, well, look
at her. She's still hanging around. A lot of people
really like her. A lot of people say she's a
people on the butm of the political establishment over here.
(02:14):
Either way, she's a very divisive figure. But she's still there.
And the other one was that South Australian senator Cory Bernardi.
He said I'm leaving the Liberal Party. Follow me, and
nobody did. And so he's down there in South Australia
with his Australian Conservative Party with one member and that's him.
So it depends, I mean, payment has come out. She's
only a very young woman, a refugee who came here,
(02:39):
educated in Australia, very bright, young woman from all accounts,
worked as a top trade union official in Western Australia
and got that third spot on the Senate ticket. She's
only in there for a minute and she quits and
now she's an independent. She's got her new party up
and running. But honest to goodness, she sounded yesterday like
(02:59):
young woman with a school assignment and she's trying to
fill in all the gaps. It really is a bit naive,
I think for her to expect anyone to take us seriously.
But she doesn't even have a policy on Gaza, which
is why she walked in the first place.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I was watching a little bit of the Parliament this
week because it's back, of course, and I look at
I mean, the Tourette's thing was a direct working of
Albanezi being under pressure, wasn't he the guy is he
knows he's in trouble.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh yeah, absolutely he does. And all the polls tell
you he's in trouble. He's in trouble with the electorate
because people don't care about the Middle East. But Mike,
they care about the cost of living. They care about
putting food on the table for the kids, making sure
the school uniforms are clean, they've got school shoes. That's
what people are worried about, the cost of paying the bills, electricity, gas, food,
(03:48):
putting gas in the petrol in the car, all the
rest is kind of yeah, look, it's important, but we
don't care. We want you to acknowledge our pain with
interest rates the way they are, and Buddy will do
something about it. Well, here's the thing he can't. Every
time he tries to do something, he stands up in Parliament.
There's Peter Dutton, who just he just cuts him down
(04:10):
exactly the whole trenched thing. It was a dreadful look.
I mean, that's school yard stuff. But that's exactly the
pressure he's under. Peter Dutton is going straight back to
the Tony Abbott playbook of ten years ago. Just say
no to everything and just keep belting them and I'll
tell you what you said a few weeks ago. Dutton
could win the next election. Well he could. Right now
it looks more like a hung parliament with Labor governing
(04:32):
and minority. The big thing that Albanezey has going from
Dutton is so dreadfully unpopular with just about everybody except
missus Dutton, and that's the only thing he's got going
from because Labor is on the nose.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Big time headline this week best article I read nearly
one term in just what is the point of the
albaneze government? I thought, well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, that sums it up, mate, that sums it up.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Where does I mean? It's all very well for the
rebels to see Australian rugby, but what the outworking is what.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well the rebels have effectively been shot dead and all
the best players, you know, the Tom and thor for example,
they've all gone walk about, so they're all gone. The
Rebels are no more, but the directors of the Rebels are.
They lodged a lawsuit this week seeking millions and millions
of dollars alleging, you know, unfair sacking by Rugby Australia.
(05:25):
Rugby Australia's hit back like yesterday. So a second, we're
going to lodge a counterclaim against Melbourne Rebels directors alleging
misleading and active conduct. This is getting increasingly nasty the
Rebels directors. I think it's in the order of about
thirty million dollars they are after. Basically they're saying, listen,
Rugby Australia let us down. We had a going concern
(05:47):
down here. Rugby Australia just cut us adrift. But Rugby
Australia's had hand on a second, you guys were trading
while insolvent. We propped you up to the tune of
millions and millions of bucks for salaries for everybody involved.
You just want very good at running a business, well,
you know, as well as I do down in Melbourne's
sport talks, and even if it's rugby Union, which is
very much on the nose down in Victoria. It's an
(06:09):
AFL down and if the Melbourne Storm does well though
a little bit, rugby league rugby union is very much
a fourth tier sport. But having said that, sports directors
down there, rugby union directors down there. I've got a
reputation in town and if someone's calling him dreadful business people,
well they're going to do something about it. So where
there's settled, I have no idea because you know claim
(06:31):
here and a counterclaim from Rugby Australia. It's a mess
that I don't need it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You're a good lake. We'll catch up next week mate,
Thank you. Michael Murray holds across the Tasman for us
this morning. Year that article I read by a guy
called Sean Karney. He says, a terrifying thought is that
what's happening in our politics. This is Australia is the best,
It's the best the country can do. Increasingly, this is
savagely contestant political environment, involving politician staff as a handful
of gasping, grasping lobbyists and what's left of a watchful media.
(06:57):
And then there's the rest of Australia that variously aws
it or is bewildered by it a lot of the time,
sums it up to do well. Indeed.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks it Be from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Across the towns of Murray Olds.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
How are you m good morning, Michael, pretty good? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good good? Richard Miles's former chief of staff? Is it Tenorski?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Tanowski?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I think Tanowski? Okay, So Joe's upset. She's not happy.
She didn't think she'd done anything wrong. She's been bullied
out of a job. She goes public. How bad is
this gibbon. There's quite a bit going wrong for the
government at the moment.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well, it doesn't help, does it. And you know the
liberal parties, the problem is the party with the women
problem quote unquote. But here's Labor. You know, a fairly
popular deputy prime minister acting prime minister at the moment.
The last thing Labour needs is to have a woman
of very long standing. She's known Richard Miles for well
(00:43):
over a decade and she was his chief of staff.
And that's a pretty important job, as you well know,
in a political office of that importance. Anyway, she was
getting undermined, whitehnted from below and this is what her
claim is getting bullied by junior staff in the offer.
She raised the concerns with the boss, Richard Miles and
the way home earlier this year, from Ukraine and said, listen,
(01:06):
these rat bags in the office are really getting up
my nose. He said, leave it with me, I'll fix it.
A few days later, a few weeks later, M sorry
you Beddle, look for a new job. So she's been
sitting there, apparently locked out of her office. Can't work.
It didn't pardon me. So she goes, she goes public
and she says, listen, I've been treated very, very unfairly.
(01:28):
This sort of conduct should not be permitted in Parliament
or anywhere else for that matter. So where this lands,
I'm not sure, but Labour needs this like a hole
in the head.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I reckon for Payman's new party, which is called Australia Voice.
I noticed in her I think it might have even
been her initial interview that she couldn't really work out
whether the party would have rules around crossing the floor,
which is ironic given she crossed the floor to form
a new party. Is this going anywhere?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well? Look, I was thinking about this in the last
forty eight hours, to be honest, knowing she was going
to put her head up yesterday. Lot of two people
I thought of Pauline Hanson all those years ago. One
nation is she going to get near well, well, look
at her. She's still hanging around. A lot of people
really like her. A lot of people say she's a
people on the butm of the political establishment over here.
(02:14):
Either way, she's a very divisive figure. But she's still there.
And the other one was that South Australian senator Cory Bernardi.
He said I'm leaving the Liberal Party. Follow me, and
nobody did. And so he's down there in South Australia
with his Australian Conservative Party with one member and that's him.
So it depends, I mean, payment has come out. She's
only a very young woman, a refugee who came here,
(02:39):
educated in Australia, very bright, young woman from all accounts,
worked as a top trade union official in Western Australia
and got that third spot on the Senate ticket. She's
only in there for a minute and she quits and
now she's an independent. She's got her new party up
and running. But honest to goodness, she sounded yesterday like
(02:59):
young woman with a school assignment and she's trying to
fill in all the gaps. It really is a bit naive,
I think for her to expect anyone to take us seriously.
But she doesn't even have a policy on Gaza, which
is why she walked in the first place.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I was watching a little bit of the Parliament this
week because it's back, of course, and I look at
I mean, the Tourette's thing was a direct working of
Albanezi being under pressure, wasn't he the guy is he
knows he's in trouble.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh yeah, absolutely he does. And all the polls tell
you he's in trouble. He's in trouble with the electorate
because people don't care about the Middle East. But Mike,
they care about the cost of living. They care about
putting food on the table for the kids, making sure
the school uniforms are clean, they've got school shoes. That's
what people are worried about, the cost of paying the bills, electricity, gas, food,
(03:48):
putting gas in the petrol in the car, all the
rest is kind of yeah, look, it's important, but we
don't care. We want you to acknowledge our pain with
interest rates the way they are, and Buddy will do
something about it. Well, here's the thing he can't. Every
time he tries to do something, he stands up in Parliament.
There's Peter Dutton, who just he just cuts him down
(04:10):
exactly the whole trenched thing. It was a dreadful look.
I mean, that's school yard stuff. But that's exactly the
pressure he's under. Peter Dutton is going straight back to
the Tony Abbott playbook of ten years ago. Just say
no to everything and just keep belting them and I'll
tell you what you said a few weeks ago. Dutton
could win the next election. Well he could. Right now
it looks more like a hung parliament with Labor governing
(04:32):
and minority. The big thing that Albanezey has going from
Dutton is so dreadfully unpopular with just about everybody except
missus Dutton, and that's the only thing he's got going
from because Labor is on the nose.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Big time headline this week best article I read nearly
one term in just what is the point of the
albaneze government? I thought, well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, that sums it up, mate, that sums it up.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Where does I mean? It's all very well for the
rebels to see Australian rugby, but what the outworking is what.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well the rebels have effectively been shot dead and all
the best players, you know, the Tom and thor for example,
they've all gone walk about, so they're all gone. The
Rebels are no more, but the directors of the Rebels are.
They lodged a lawsuit this week seeking millions and millions
of dollars alleging, you know, unfair sacking by Rugby Australia.
(05:25):
Rugby Australia's hit back like yesterday. So a second, we're
going to lodge a counterclaim against Melbourne Rebels directors alleging
misleading and active conduct. This is getting increasingly nasty the
Rebels directors. I think it's in the order of about
thirty million dollars they are after. Basically they're saying, listen,
Rugby Australia let us down. We had a going concern
(05:47):
down here. Rugby Australia just cut us adrift. But Rugby
Australia's had hand on a second, you guys were trading
while insolvent. We propped you up to the tune of
millions and millions of bucks for salaries for everybody involved.
You just want very good at running a business, well,
you know, as well as I do down in Melbourne's
sport talks, and even if it's rugby Union, which is
very much on the nose down in Victoria. It's an
(06:09):
AFL down and if the Melbourne Storm does well though
a little bit, rugby league rugby union is very much
a fourth tier sport. But having said that, sports directors
down there, rugby union directors down there. I've got a
reputation in town and if someone's calling him dreadful business people,
well they're going to do something about it. So where
there's settled, I have no idea because you know claim
(06:31):
here and a counterclaim from Rugby Australia. It's a mess
that I don't need it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You're a good lake. We'll catch up next week mate,
Thank you. Michael Murray holds across the Tasman for us
this morning. Year that article I read by a guy
called Sean Karney. He says, a terrifying thought is that
what's happening in our politics. This is Australia is the best,
It's the best the country can do. Increasingly, this is
savagely contestant political environment, involving politician staff as a handful
of gasping, grasping lobbyists and what's left of a watchful media.
(06:57):
And then there's the rest of Australia that variously aws
it or is bewildered by it a lot of the time,
sums it up to do well. Indeed.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks it Be from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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