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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Billy. A day after the victory, the business soa of
the America's Cup turns to the next time out of
challenge of records being received of course, so what's the
time frame on the next set of details the team?
You see them? Boss Grunt Dalton is with us from Barcelona.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Bury.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Good morning to you and congratulations.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thanks Mike, and thanks for the congratulations.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And how does it feel with the team and all
of the talk about Ainsley You're the greatest ever and
all of that. How's that gone down?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, it's been a full day of work for the
guys today is you know, you would expect we would
straight back into it, but everybody's really, I think, really
relieved as much as anything. I'm incredibly proud, but relieved
and from sort of where I sit, this was a
total team effort. Now I know that's a cliche, but
it worked on every level and the Sailors delivered in Auckland.
(00:49):
You know they will be the first to admit they
weren't at their best, but here they really did. And
this is you know, they are up against strong teams
and you know they smashed it out of a park.
I'll be proud of them.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
When you say strong teams. The results wouldn't indicate that.
So is there something going on that you know about
that we don't that you know? On the wa seven
twos are thrashing.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, if you look at the deltas in terms of
up wind speed, you know, we get all the all
the data, and we compare the data and we look
at the attacking speeds and you build angles and the
whole bit between us and any of us. There was
almost nothing in it. And in certain conditions when they
won those two races, when there were waves, you know,
you'd argue they were a little bit quicker at times,
(01:34):
and certainly down wind they were always as far so
you've got to string the race together. I mean, you
can have two cars that are exactly the same race cars,
that one will be better because the drivers are better.
And I think in the end, two organizations, two boats
that weren't dissimilar. Probably we had an edge at times,
but then the guys had the guys had to put
(01:55):
it on the water, you know. I mean, it's already
well to have a quick boat, it's going to salt
well at this level, I mean the top of the
food chain, and they really did peak Nathan the the
cyclist Tuky Andy, the coaches with Joshi and Ray. I mean,
they really really did a good job.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Where are you at? We'll have the usual post America's
Cup conversation, now have you locked the team down? Are
you locking the team down? What are you doing with
all of that?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, nothing yet, just afterwards, but there's the conversations that
will happen pretty quickly. I think the thing is that
a team that wins almost needs to be more brutal
on itself than a team that loses, because they're bes
And I know after Auckland, we did a very very
(02:45):
thorough review and you know, ask ourselves the question, we've
just lost this America's Cup. Why did we lose it?
And we've got to ask ourselves the same question as
an organization, we've just lost the next one. Why. You
have to come up with the right answers because you've
got to make decisions. So I think the easiest way
(03:06):
to put it is the decisions that are made in
the next six months will be the winning and the
losing of the next America's Cup. And that's the same
for every team. You make your decisions now, and you
better get them right.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So in making those decisions, who's making them in terms
of the other countries. You need more competitors, don't you.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, there's two arguments to that side. You could have
a league which has ten boats and they're all pretty
much the same and everybody has a lovely time, but
that's what it is. It's a league. Or you can
have the America's Cup. I mean a league being the
Premiership or any league in any country at any sport.
(03:45):
Or you can have the top of the food chain.
You can have the highest technology, the best of the best,
and that's not for everybody. So there's two schools afford
to how the America's Cup should be formed going forward.
My personal feeling is not for everybody. It is only
for those that can deal with the technology, deal with
the intricacies of the team dynamics which are so big
(04:09):
and have the right people. So maybe another entry, but
I don't see more than another one. I never have
seen this as a teen team game.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Would you do you have a sense of whether those
who turned up this time will be back for another goal?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yes? I do, and I think without exception they all
will be. We're sort of aware of another one in
the wings. It's up to them. But you know there's
a long way to go yet. There's no protocol, there's
no entry date, there's no venue, there's no nothing. We
just got through yesterday or exhaled loudly and got through
(04:48):
last night, and we'll start to think about it whuture
pretty much straight away. Well today we started.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Now the challenger of record, assuming it's Britain, is it
aenios in that sense or is it just the British.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, it's a yacht club regatta, remember, so it's the
Royal New zeal On Yacht Squadron. And yes it is
ayous as such or the British team, but it's a
yacht club regatta. Yacht club has been challenged by the
Rayal Yacht Squadron. So we've accepted that challenge and that
happens as you cross the finish line. But that's done.
The next job for that is to write kind of
(05:23):
engagement in terms of what we believe, because we discuss
all this that we believe, certain things that we agree
on like nationality, like cost restriction, things like the class
of boat, and then form a protocol. And that's quite
a long process because I keep reading about how this
is always totally slanted to the defender, because the defender
writes the rules. It's not it is slanted, but it's
(05:46):
not a complete whitewash in that respect, because you form
that agreement with your challenge of record, and that was
in us or the team and will be the team
this time as well, and.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
The chances of it being in New z.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, well, I mean, obviously I'm starting to get asked
that question, and I think it's simple way to answer
it is this. It is not off off the table.
It has never been off the table. We never went
away because the only reason we left was to do
what exactly just happened, to keep an amazing team together
and to win. So if that amazing team can be
(06:24):
kept together and we believe that we can win, and
we can put a viable of the end at home,
we're coming home.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
The chances, as you said here right now, hand on
a what.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I haven't got a clue, I mean, to be fair
to use it on. I've heard nothing, not a dicky bird,
not a boot. So I actually have no I can't
actually answer that even with my hand on my heart,
because i've heard anything.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Okay, right, go I make catch up some Grunt Dalton
out of Barcelona for US this morning.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
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