Australian media executive, Kim Williams has been made chair of the ABC Radio. He aims to raise the importance of news radio in Australia.
William said that there's far too much fluff on the website and that they need to tidy it up and tighten it up, he has got rid of the National Morning Pres, Breakfast Presenter Patricia Karvelas and has advised the team to be more serious. They have now returned to being the number read website in Australia.
Murray Olds, Australian Correspondent tells Mike Hosking that news in New Zealand isn't as big as he believes people have started to “care less” about the news.
He says that there aren't many radio newsrooms around as there's no money getting put into it, saying that Williams is going to be a “breath of fresh air for this place.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right, Oh, Murray Old, how are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Michael? Very good morning, pretty good, thank you this Friday morning.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
I just love the way you guys run the country.
Camden MP Selly Quinnilde, who gave seventy five thousand of
the Camden Musical Society, an organization she co founded.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
What could correctly, what could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Mate? This is as old as politics, isn't it. I mean, look,
labor here in New South Wales went to the twenty
three state election promising four hundred k for every MP
on both sides of the house, but four hundred k
towards local community projects. Well, who would see anything going
(00:39):
wrong here? I mean, as you say, you know, the
Camden Musical Society a very worthy organization. It does need
seventy five thousand dollars of taxpayers money to get new
Dunnies or whatever. It was a new coffee heard, I
don't know, but here we go. And such twas the
stense arising from this that there was a secret review
conducted by the state government and lo and behold, we've
(01:01):
got two projects that were absolutely A further twenty eight
were identified as having quote moderate probity risk unquote you know, hello,
This is all in the nine newspapers here in Sydney.
The fact of the matter is that both sides have
done this for a time immemorial right around the world.
(01:22):
I think you'll find if there's taxpayer's money to be
sloshed around, one side will dole it out. It's called
you know, it's just what's the phrase, the phrase for it.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's pork barreling. Pork barreling.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
There we go, and that comes I think from before
the American Civil War. So anyway, look, yeah, there's been
a spike put through two of these projects completely. They
have been dumped. Others are now having another review. So
it does stink, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Tim Krakenthorpe. The review found received campaign support from Connections
and four of the nine organizations associated with as nominated projects.
It's funny, that, isn't it. Speaking of Queensland this weekend,
the coalition get a wrong home, do you think.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh, look, I think labor's on the nose big time
in Queensland and you know, the electoral cycles tells us
that it is time for a coaling government up there,
Conservative coalition government. But gee, where's the leader of the coalition,
Chris a Fooley. I mean, honest to God, I don't
think he'd send him down to the Bunnings to make
the sausages. He do something wrong with that on a
(02:27):
Saturday morning, and the other sides know better. I mean,
there's just a basket case, Queens, and in the same
way as Victoria's a basketcase both labor administrations and they're
bloody hopeless. They've bankrupted the states and like so often happens,
they outspend and outstayed. They're welcome, they've outspent the money
that they had available. And you know each state now
(02:48):
is in trouble. And I think, yes, Saturday tomorrow we'll
see a thumping when for the coalition.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
The Kim Williams bloke. Do you know him at all?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Is he your name?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But I don't know him personally.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So anyway, he got speaking, he got chair of the ABC.
One of the first things he did was he gave
him a good rack up and he said, this far
too much fluff on your website. Tight and tidy it up,
tighten it up and get a bit serious.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And they did.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And I note the figures out this week indicate they've
gone back to the number one red website in Australia.
So he's probably onto something, wasn't he Well he.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Is, and you know a lot of people are saying
here because I worked for the ABC, I do three
days a week here trying to keep the news afloat
on the only old person of the news and the
rest of them just left school. And what Kim Williams
has done has come in and he's kicking backsides all
over the place and people say, well, that's not the
chairs job. Well he's arrived after twenty twenty five years
(03:37):
working for Rupert Murdoch, he's been involved in the arts,
he's run Opera Australia. He is a serious player, a
big player across many many platforms, and he has arrived.
The managing director is going. A bunch of other things
have happened. He's got rid of the Radio National morning
(03:58):
breakfast presenter Patricia Carr. He says he wants news to
get serious again. He wants all that fluff, as you say,
off the website. You know, who cares about ducklings making
it safely across the road. We're more ined in the
bloody Middle East. But all that fluff was getting up
there and now the website has come back. But gee whiz,
I don't know if it's the same over home in
New Zealand. But you look at radio newsrooms around the place,
(04:20):
there's no one left anymore. There's no money getting put
into it. No one appears apparently appears to care less
about news. So I think Kim Williams is going to
be a breath of fresh air at this place.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Interesting and Lydia performed well this week, didn't she What
a classic she is my home world.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, he's just a buffoon, I mean she you know,
And I'm in no way am I trying to be
disrespectful to a female politician. But she just does herself
no favors by looking like a big goose in Parliament
screaming at the Kinglow and then this nonsense about I
didn't swear allegiance to the queen's heirs. I swore allegiance
to her hairs until she realized that quarter million dollars
(04:55):
a year salary might be at risk. And she's oh, no, no, no,
I misspoke. It was a bit late because the opposite,
the federal Opposition, has referred her off to the presiding
officers of the Senate and they're going to have an
inquiry apparently into whether or not she should be sacked.
I mean, she is an unfortunate look for her, it's unfortunate. Look.
I think her heart's in the right place, but she
(05:15):
just behaves.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Like doesn't know how to behave herself.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
This done thing with the nuclear And it's really interesting
because I don't know if you're following this, but these
data centers. We're big in New Zealand on wanting to
be a host of data centers, and so you've got
your Googles and your Oracles and all those guys. They
are now building nuclear reactors, their own nuclear reactors mini
or doing deals with nuclear providers to run these things
because the power required is so vast that no grid
(05:40):
can handle it, which brings us interestingly to you, because
of course we can't get through the winter at the moment,
far less a data center without having power problems in
this country because we just don't have enough renewables and
all that sort of stuff, and we're importing more coal
than we ever have. But of course you got to
hold you got a slightly different view of it, haven't you.
I mean, you boot, you do boon coal and you
seem happy enough to with a general view to in
(06:01):
the long term maybe you know, putting it to one
side and you using a bit of window or whatever
or whatever else.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well that's right. I mean, look, renewables is here, the
whole renewables, a suite of renewables is here to stay.
I think that's you know, no one's arguing against that.
But how we get to that point? That's where the
argument is over Here, We've got a fleet of aging
coal fired power stations that basically are now clapped out.
They're fifty sixty years old. And you know Peter Dutton
(06:30):
wants to have the coalition building seven nuclear reactors. The
CSIRO is Australia's number one science agency, says, well, you
won't get that up and running for absolute decades. Will
the opposite joyous? We will, And the head of the
Australian Energy Regulator says, well, guess what. The power stations
(06:51):
are going to be clapped out long before any atomic
energies online, and you know it's going to have to
be a gas transition. Well you know the Greens hate that.
So you know where do we go from here? We
too have have power supply problems in Australia, and you
look at the vast amounts of coal that are here. Yes,
(07:14):
you know, and coal fire powerstations will be used as
long as they can go. But there's no appetite to
spend money to maintain these things, to pour, you know,
millions and millions of dollars into these old plants because
they're going to be bugged up next week.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
What are you going on for the weekend? Something cool?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I'm gonna be watching the all blacks plage of pan.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, that it'll be. And by how many do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Well, you know you'd think against that Rabbel.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Curdie Jordan's fifty.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, I reckon twenty five to thirty points. They should
do it all right?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Might go well?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Seeing next Friday for Almost Murrayolds, The Mighty Murriolds, The
Fabulous murray Olds.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
Right, Oh, Murray Old, how are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Michael? Very good morning, pretty good, thank you this Friday morning.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
I just love the way you guys run the country.
Camden MP Selly Quinnilde, who gave seventy five thousand of
the Camden Musical Society, an organization she co founded.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
What could correctly, what could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Mate? This is as old as politics, isn't it. I mean, look,
labor here in New South Wales went to the twenty
three state election promising four hundred k for every MP
on both sides of the house, but four hundred k
towards local community projects. Well, who would see anything going
(00:39):
wrong here? I mean, as you say, you know, the
Camden Musical Society a very worthy organization. It does need
seventy five thousand dollars of taxpayers money to get new
Dunnies or whatever. It was a new coffee heard, I
don't know, but here we go. And such twas the
stense arising from this that there was a secret review
conducted by the state government and lo and behold, we've
(01:01):
got two projects that were absolutely A further twenty eight
were identified as having quote moderate probity risk unquote you know, hello,
This is all in the nine newspapers here in Sydney.
The fact of the matter is that both sides have
done this for a time immemorial right around the world.
(01:22):
I think you'll find if there's taxpayer's money to be
sloshed around, one side will dole it out. It's called
you know, it's just what's the phrase, the phrase for it.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's pork barreling. Pork barreling.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
There we go, and that comes I think from before
the American Civil War. So anyway, look, yeah, there's been
a spike put through two of these projects completely. They
have been dumped. Others are now having another review. So
it does stink, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Tim Krakenthorpe. The review found received campaign support from Connections
and four of the nine organizations associated with as nominated projects.
It's funny, that, isn't it. Speaking of Queensland this weekend,
the coalition get a wrong home, do you think.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh, look, I think labor's on the nose big time
in Queensland and you know, the electoral cycles tells us
that it is time for a coaling government up there,
Conservative coalition government. But gee, where's the leader of the coalition,
Chris a Fooley. I mean, honest to God, I don't
think he'd send him down to the Bunnings to make
the sausages. He do something wrong with that on a
(02:27):
Saturday morning, and the other sides know better. I mean,
there's just a basket case, Queens, and in the same
way as Victoria's a basketcase both labor administrations and they're
bloody hopeless. They've bankrupted the states and like so often happens,
they outspend and outstayed. They're welcome, they've outspent the money
that they had available. And you know each state now
(02:48):
is in trouble. And I think, yes, Saturday tomorrow we'll
see a thumping when for the coalition.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
The Kim Williams bloke. Do you know him at all?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Is he your name?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But I don't know him personally.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So anyway, he got speaking, he got chair of the ABC.
One of the first things he did was he gave
him a good rack up and he said, this far
too much fluff on your website. Tight and tidy it up,
tighten it up and get a bit serious.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And they did.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And I note the figures out this week indicate they've
gone back to the number one red website in Australia.
So he's probably onto something, wasn't he Well he.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Is, and you know a lot of people are saying
here because I worked for the ABC, I do three
days a week here trying to keep the news afloat
on the only old person of the news and the
rest of them just left school. And what Kim Williams
has done has come in and he's kicking backsides all
over the place and people say, well, that's not the
chairs job. Well he's arrived after twenty twenty five years
(03:37):
working for Rupert Murdoch, he's been involved in the arts,
he's run Opera Australia. He is a serious player, a
big player across many many platforms, and he has arrived.
The managing director is going. A bunch of other things
have happened. He's got rid of the Radio National morning
(03:58):
breakfast presenter Patricia Carr. He says he wants news to
get serious again. He wants all that fluff, as you say,
off the website. You know, who cares about ducklings making
it safely across the road. We're more ined in the
bloody Middle East. But all that fluff was getting up
there and now the website has come back. But gee whiz,
I don't know if it's the same over home in
New Zealand. But you look at radio newsrooms around the place,
(04:20):
there's no one left anymore. There's no money getting put
into it. No one appears apparently appears to care less
about news. So I think Kim Williams is going to
be a breath of fresh air at this place.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Interesting and Lydia performed well this week, didn't she What
a classic she is my home world.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, he's just a buffoon, I mean she you know,
And I'm in no way am I trying to be
disrespectful to a female politician. But she just does herself
no favors by looking like a big goose in Parliament
screaming at the Kinglow and then this nonsense about I
didn't swear allegiance to the queen's heirs. I swore allegiance
to her hairs until she realized that quarter million dollars
(04:55):
a year salary might be at risk. And she's oh, no, no, no,
I misspoke. It was a bit late because the opposite,
the federal Opposition, has referred her off to the presiding
officers of the Senate and they're going to have an
inquiry apparently into whether or not she should be sacked.
I mean, she is an unfortunate look for her, it's unfortunate. Look.
I think her heart's in the right place, but she
(05:15):
just behaves.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Like doesn't know how to behave herself.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
This done thing with the nuclear And it's really interesting
because I don't know if you're following this, but these
data centers. We're big in New Zealand on wanting to
be a host of data centers, and so you've got
your Googles and your Oracles and all those guys. They
are now building nuclear reactors, their own nuclear reactors mini
or doing deals with nuclear providers to run these things
because the power required is so vast that no grid
(05:40):
can handle it, which brings us interestingly to you, because
of course we can't get through the winter at the moment,
far less a data center without having power problems in
this country because we just don't have enough renewables and
all that sort of stuff, and we're importing more coal
than we ever have. But of course you got to
hold you got a slightly different view of it, haven't you.
I mean, you boot, you do boon coal and you
seem happy enough to with a general view to in
(06:01):
the long term maybe you know, putting it to one
side and you using a bit of window or whatever
or whatever else.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well that's right. I mean, look, renewables is here, the
whole renewables, a suite of renewables is here to stay.
I think that's you know, no one's arguing against that.
But how we get to that point? That's where the
argument is over Here, We've got a fleet of aging
coal fired power stations that basically are now clapped out.
They're fifty sixty years old. And you know Peter Dutton
(06:30):
wants to have the coalition building seven nuclear reactors. The
CSIRO is Australia's number one science agency, says, well, you
won't get that up and running for absolute decades. Will
the opposite joyous? We will, And the head of the
Australian Energy Regulator says, well, guess what. The power stations
(06:51):
are going to be clapped out long before any atomic
energies online, and you know it's going to have to
be a gas transition. Well you know the Greens hate that.
So you know where do we go from here? We
too have have power supply problems in Australia, and you
look at the vast amounts of coal that are here. Yes,
(07:14):
you know, and coal fire powerstations will be used as
long as they can go. But there's no appetite to
spend money to maintain these things, to pour, you know,
millions and millions of dollars into these old plants because
they're going to be bugged up next week.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
What are you going on for the weekend? Something cool?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I'm gonna be watching the all blacks plage of pan.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, that it'll be. And by how many do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Well, you know you'd think against that Rabbel.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Curdie Jordan's fifty.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, I reckon twenty five to thirty points. They should
do it all right?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Might go well?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Seeing next Friday for Almost Murrayolds, The Mighty Murriolds, The
Fabulous murray Olds.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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