December 15, 2024 • 11 mins
Andrew Saville and Guy Heveldt joined Heather du Plessis-Allan to discuss the Black Caps getting on top of England in the dead-rubber third test in Hamilton, Auckland FC’s losing their winning run after drawing 2-2 against Melbourne City, the delay on Liam Lawson’s F1 future, the NRL’s Papua New Guinea expansion and China, and everyone’s holiday plans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As with every Monday, we have Guy Havelt and Andrew
Saville with us. Hello, lads, right, are we excited about
this test? Or are we just can we say that
we're redeeming ourselves guy? Or Am I overdoing it?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
No? I think they can to an extent. It is
a dead rubber, obviously, and they have blown the series
in the first two games, which was massively disappointing, but
they finally batted well in that first innings and they're
going okay in the second innings and they've bowled pretty
well as well. I'm looking forward when Tim Saudi retires,
and I've made my views on Tim Saudi pretty clear.
(00:37):
I respect the guy a lot and I think he's
been amazing for New Zealand. But when he retires, I'm
really looking forward to seeing Willow Rourke open the bowling
with a new ball. I think he could be absolutely deadly.
We saw what he did in stages of that innings
England's first innings yesterday, and when he gets a new
ball in his hands, I think it could be something
(00:57):
special to watch. So I think there's been enough out
of this to be like, okay, well, they've still got
something there. Just makes it even more disappointing that they
were so bad in the first two tests.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Just what does it say Sam about select the selections
If we're waiting for.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Somebody to retire, well, it's going to bring that up too.
I mean we all sort of scratched our heads or
looked sideways and before the second test when they didn't
make any changes, and hindsight it's a wonderful thing. But
what would have happened if will Young had have been
opening the last couple of games, And what would have
happened if say Mitchell Satner or a full time spinner
was used in the last couple of games, even though
(01:32):
the pictures don't turn a lot yet, just to have
that variety apart from the seam and fast ballers. So yeah,
some head scratching stuff's gone on the last few weeks.
But look, the Willow Rawke has bowled tremendously well. There's
nothing like pace. You just can't beat sheer pace. He's
got the height as well, and he digs it in
around the ribs and around the bat handle. So I
(01:53):
looked they played very well. But it's been a little
too little, too late really in the series. But there
are signs there for future sav I.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Think you're being overly generous. It's not a hindsight thing
because we were talking about this even before the Second Test,
that we needed to have we needed to change things
up because Devin Conway's formed slumt.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So yeah, so why if we can see it, why
can't they?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well this is the question, what is going on here?
I mean going to it any Do you have any
ideas because it looks to me a little bit like
they make the selections based on loyalty and weird punishments
if you don't take contracts.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's exactly. I'm not sure about the second well a
little bit in the second bit, but in the same
brief like Devin Conway's not got a full time contract
this year and he's still obviously been playing along for
the Black Cats. Kane Williamson's done the same thing and
he's playing pretty much every Test. But then tring Bolt,
if you look back to when he gave up his
(02:47):
full time contract, never got a look at him test
match cricket, So that side of things is a little
bit interesting. They are very very loyal selectors and it
takes a lot, and I mean a lot to the
to drop someone who has played a lot of tests
for them, and I'm talking you know, Devin Conway, I'm
(03:09):
talking Tim Sow the few other instances in the past
where they've done this sort of thing and people have
been left wondering why other players haven't had opportunities. So
they are the sort of I mean, I'm talking Gary
Stead here. Luke Ronkey as has been part of that.
Not sure if he's a selector as such, but I'm
sure he has some input. Now Sam Wells is a
selector and before him Gavin last and they've always been
(03:32):
pretty pretty loyal and pretty hard to move in terms
of their thinking around how the Test eleven or so
should look. So I'm not overly surprised by what they've done.
But there have been some head scratching selection, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Save I've been sent to text here to tell me that,
even though somebody loves me like a sista, I need
to stop commenting on football because I don't know what
I'm talking about. So you give me your take.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
To And you was at the same text for that
day that you you wanted Damien McKenzie and ahead of
Boden Barrett, and someone said You've got no idea. Maybe
it's the same text there. Maybe it's a serial.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Text maybe, or maybe everybody's onto me that I just
maybe it's maybe it is maybe yeah, maybe he knows,
he knows, he's outing me. Hey, what do you make
of the own goal? Then that was I mean, there's
an their own goals.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I having having dealt with this team in the last
three or four weeks and even interviewed Alex Paulson, this
young goalie who's a superb young player. I didn't think
i'd see in a million years him and the Auckland
the CE defense make a mistake like that, the back pass.
Basically he was looking up rather than looking down at
the ball and he led it through for the own goal.
(04:41):
So that was bizarre in itself. But then to score
the equalizer to keep this unbeaten run going. Yes, they
didn't win all see, but they're still unbeaten. Yeah, to
score the equalizer basically in the last minute stoppage time
from a free kick drilled into the back of the net.
I said, yeah, gee, whiz, they've got They've got the
football guards on his shoulder at the moment, haven't they think?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm just writing down back pass so that I know
what that's.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Called later in the day.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, yeah, alone week or something. Guy, what did you
make of It was pretty tense, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It was? It was awesome, wasn't it. I've been enthralled
by what Auckland you see have done around now. It's Paulson.
He has been one of the reasons why, or one
of the main reasons why they have been going as
well as they have. In a couple of games, the
opposition has peppered the goal and he's done remarkably well
to keep them out. So I don't think you can
be I mean, it was embarrassing and he won't want
(05:34):
to watch it again. I didn't think the ball bob
bobbled a little bit, so maybe not one hundred percent
of his fault.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh why.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Did a little bit? It did a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I am saying it is quite embarrassing. He might want
to watch it again. But he has been a guy
who has kept them where they are on the table
in a couple of games like he has been amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I would imagine it's the only time in his career
he'll make him. He'll make him at that level of
make a booboo like that.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Happens to the best of us, doesn't it. So we've
got to cut them a bit of slack. We're all
allowed a few mistakes. Are either of you guys got
any intel on what's happening with Liam Lawson?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Are right?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
What do your class is? Proper intel? There's a lot
floating around on the internet.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What are you reading on the internet?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Wow, they're saying he's automatic, well not automatically, but he's
going to be. Some are saying he will he will
get the full Red Bull drive. Some are saying, no,
he'll be in the racing balls. You know the team
he's in. Look, I think we suggested this last week
or the week before Mike that I'm pretty sure he
is going to be driving in Formula One next year.
And this is red Bull to a tee. They let
everybody speculate and they leave it the They leave a
(06:48):
vacuum around their decisions. The decision, look, would have already
been made, I'm sure, and the relevant people would have
been told, but they just take their time.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And are they doing just doing it for drama.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Probably just to draw it out of it. It's got
surely has to be announced before Christmas for goodness sake.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Oh why why does it have to be announced before Christmas?
Why not drag it out some more? M Because the
thing is, guy, here's the thing. We thought we were
going to get the announcement last week. Then we thought
we're going to get the announcement this weekend, and there's
nothing right. So it's caused some people to go, maybe
there is something going on here.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think what we're learning is that we should not
try and predict what the hell is going to happen
in Formula one. It doesn't seem like many people are
getting it right. They haven't even announced that Sergio Peris
is going.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
To be on, so I mean, maybe that's the issue
and that they're working out how to get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yes, sir, so maybe that's the pre Christmas announcement, and
then then maybe there's another announcement that they do sort
of in the New year.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Out. I mean that seems they've all been saying that
that's pretty much a fatal complete and that's been confirmed
for about seems like about three or four months, and
that still hasn't been officially confirmed. So I don't know
what to make of all of it. Look, he'll be
driving in each one. I mean, it would be great
to see him in the Red Bull car official Red
Bull car. But if he's in there, I still think
(08:10):
that's that's going to be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, it'd be little cool either way.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
It means they can squeeze another excuse me, three or
four weeks out of us here and sell a few
more cans of fizzy drink.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Maybe that's maybe. Maybe Do you need to take your
trip to the doctor before before Christmas? Okay?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Save, I had the RONA a couple of weeks of
cold dust on the throat. Guy, I've been raving your
prison up.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I was going to say, I've had the COVID a
couple of weeks ago, and you need to make sure
you're not getting that because it's gonna it hit me hard.
But you're a blokes, it's going to hit you really.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I saw you'd sounded blocked up the last week, so
I don't realize it was COVID. I didn't realize people
still got that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Thanks for caring enough to ask anyway, what do you guy?
What do you reckon about the NRL handing this team
to P ANDNG. But then you know, tying it to
not getting involved with China.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I haven't really sad. I saw the headlines. I'll be honest,
I haven't actually dealt too much in the story. Oh look,
I think that's I didn't know the China link, so
you might have this.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Okay, so this is the China link. Guy is basically
they've given the team. So they're given the team to
P and G rather than US or anybody else who
wants it. And then they've said to them, here's six
hundred million for the next ten years to run the team,
and you only get to keep the team if you,
as a country do not sign a strategic geopolitical deal
or a military deal with China, which means that the
whole thing is actually not about P and G deserving
(09:31):
the team or making an NRL better. It's about a
little China move there from the USA and Australia.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, it's just ouzing politics.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I'm not huge on that at all. Before I
had heard that side of things, I thought it was
quite cool that there was going to be a pop
on New Guinea team in the NRL. They love I
think regular League over the air. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, love it,
So I'm not sure I'd want to go and play
a game there if as they are just rabid for
(10:02):
their rugby league over there, So I'm not sure. I
think it would be quite an intimidating place to go
to go and play rugby league.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
But it's not the first time country. It's not the
first time countries of big countries have offered money to
the islands. Is areheaded with with a bit of an
asterisk beside the money?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
No, but is it going to make your in ral
better for you to watch?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Look? I think P and G have been screaming out
for a team for a long time and they they
are immense rugby league fans. They go absolutely crazy that
all the league Aussie league stars are superstars and P
and G. I think it'll work. They get the right
players and right coaches, so I think it will be
great for the competition.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yes, yep, Okay, well here's hoping. All right, lads, Have
you guys got interesting things to do this summer.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Work? Oh?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Isn't that?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Isn't that so many people's stories? Sav what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You've gone very e.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
The next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yep, I'll be doing the same as you, so probably
find that I.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Find that quite interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That doesn't that doesn't sound much different from the.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Rest of the years, working your way around the Christmas
buffets and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Guys listen, enjoy your summer breaks. It has been lovely
to chat to you. Merry Christmas and we'll see you
again in the new year. That's Guy Helt and Andrew Savello
commentary Box this Monday.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
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As with every Monday, we have Guy Havelt and Andrew
Saville with us. Hello, lads, right, are we excited about
this test? Or are we just can we say that
we're redeeming ourselves guy? Or Am I overdoing it?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
No? I think they can to an extent. It is
a dead rubber, obviously, and they have blown the series
in the first two games, which was massively disappointing, but
they finally batted well in that first innings and they're
going okay in the second innings and they've bowled pretty
well as well. I'm looking forward when Tim Saudi retires,
and I've made my views on Tim Saudi pretty clear.
(00:37):
I respect the guy a lot and I think he's
been amazing for New Zealand. But when he retires, I'm
really looking forward to seeing Willow Rourke open the bowling
with a new ball. I think he could be absolutely deadly.
We saw what he did in stages of that innings
England's first innings yesterday, and when he gets a new
ball in his hands, I think it could be something
(00:57):
special to watch. So I think there's been enough out
of this to be like, okay, well, they've still got
something there. Just makes it even more disappointing that they
were so bad in the first two tests.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Just what does it say Sam about select the selections
If we're waiting for.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Somebody to retire, well, it's going to bring that up too.
I mean we all sort of scratched our heads or
looked sideways and before the second test when they didn't
make any changes, and hindsight it's a wonderful thing. But
what would have happened if will Young had have been
opening the last couple of games, And what would have
happened if say Mitchell Satner or a full time spinner
was used in the last couple of games, even though
(01:32):
the pictures don't turn a lot yet, just to have
that variety apart from the seam and fast ballers. So yeah,
some head scratching stuff's gone on the last few weeks.
But look, the Willow Rawke has bowled tremendously well. There's
nothing like pace. You just can't beat sheer pace. He's
got the height as well, and he digs it in
around the ribs and around the bat handle. So I
(01:53):
looked they played very well. But it's been a little
too little, too late really in the series. But there
are signs there for future sav I.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Think you're being overly generous. It's not a hindsight thing
because we were talking about this even before the Second Test,
that we needed to have we needed to change things
up because Devin Conway's formed slumt.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So yeah, so why if we can see it, why
can't they?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well this is the question, what is going on here?
I mean going to it any Do you have any
ideas because it looks to me a little bit like
they make the selections based on loyalty and weird punishments
if you don't take contracts.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's exactly. I'm not sure about the second well a
little bit in the second bit, but in the same
brief like Devin Conway's not got a full time contract
this year and he's still obviously been playing along for
the Black Cats. Kane Williamson's done the same thing and
he's playing pretty much every Test. But then tring Bolt,
if you look back to when he gave up his
(02:47):
full time contract, never got a look at him test
match cricket, So that side of things is a little
bit interesting. They are very very loyal selectors and it
takes a lot, and I mean a lot to the
to drop someone who has played a lot of tests
for them, and I'm talking you know, Devin Conway, I'm
(03:09):
talking Tim Sow the few other instances in the past
where they've done this sort of thing and people have
been left wondering why other players haven't had opportunities. So
they are the sort of I mean, I'm talking Gary
Stead here. Luke Ronkey as has been part of that.
Not sure if he's a selector as such, but I'm
sure he has some input. Now Sam Wells is a
selector and before him Gavin last and they've always been
(03:32):
pretty pretty loyal and pretty hard to move in terms
of their thinking around how the Test eleven or so
should look. So I'm not overly surprised by what they've done.
But there have been some head scratching selection, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Save I've been sent to text here to tell me that,
even though somebody loves me like a sista, I need
to stop commenting on football because I don't know what
I'm talking about. So you give me your take.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
To And you was at the same text for that
day that you you wanted Damien McKenzie and ahead of
Boden Barrett, and someone said You've got no idea. Maybe
it's the same text there. Maybe it's a serial.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Text maybe, or maybe everybody's onto me that I just
maybe it's maybe it is maybe yeah, maybe he knows,
he knows, he's outing me. Hey, what do you make
of the own goal? Then that was I mean, there's
an their own goals.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I having having dealt with this team in the last
three or four weeks and even interviewed Alex Paulson, this
young goalie who's a superb young player. I didn't think
i'd see in a million years him and the Auckland
the CE defense make a mistake like that, the back pass.
Basically he was looking up rather than looking down at
the ball and he led it through for the own goal.
(04:41):
So that was bizarre in itself. But then to score
the equalizer to keep this unbeaten run going. Yes, they
didn't win all see, but they're still unbeaten. Yeah, to
score the equalizer basically in the last minute stoppage time
from a free kick drilled into the back of the net.
I said, yeah, gee, whiz, they've got They've got the
football guards on his shoulder at the moment, haven't they think?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm just writing down back pass so that I know
what that's.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Called later in the day.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, yeah, alone week or something. Guy, what did you
make of It was pretty tense, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It was? It was awesome, wasn't it. I've been enthralled
by what Auckland you see have done around now. It's Paulson.
He has been one of the reasons why, or one
of the main reasons why they have been going as
well as they have. In a couple of games, the
opposition has peppered the goal and he's done remarkably well
to keep them out. So I don't think you can
be I mean, it was embarrassing and he won't want
(05:34):
to watch it again. I didn't think the ball bob
bobbled a little bit, so maybe not one hundred percent
of his fault.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh why.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Did a little bit? It did a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I am saying it is quite embarrassing. He might want
to watch it again. But he has been a guy
who has kept them where they are on the table
in a couple of games like he has been amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I would imagine it's the only time in his career
he'll make him. He'll make him at that level of
make a booboo like that.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Happens to the best of us, doesn't it. So we've
got to cut them a bit of slack. We're all
allowed a few mistakes. Are either of you guys got
any intel on what's happening with Liam Lawson?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Are right?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
What do your class is? Proper intel? There's a lot
floating around on the internet.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What are you reading on the internet?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Wow, they're saying he's automatic, well not automatically, but he's
going to be. Some are saying he will he will
get the full Red Bull drive. Some are saying, no,
he'll be in the racing balls. You know the team
he's in. Look, I think we suggested this last week
or the week before Mike that I'm pretty sure he
is going to be driving in Formula One next year.
And this is red Bull to a tee. They let
everybody speculate and they leave it the They leave a
(06:48):
vacuum around their decisions. The decision, look, would have already
been made, I'm sure, and the relevant people would have
been told, but they just take their time.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And are they doing just doing it for drama.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Probably just to draw it out of it. It's got
surely has to be announced before Christmas for goodness sake.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Oh why why does it have to be announced before Christmas?
Why not drag it out some more? M Because the
thing is, guy, here's the thing. We thought we were
going to get the announcement last week. Then we thought
we're going to get the announcement this weekend, and there's
nothing right. So it's caused some people to go, maybe
there is something going on here.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think what we're learning is that we should not
try and predict what the hell is going to happen
in Formula one. It doesn't seem like many people are
getting it right. They haven't even announced that Sergio Peris
is going.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
To be on, so I mean, maybe that's the issue
and that they're working out how to get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yes, sir, so maybe that's the pre Christmas announcement, and
then then maybe there's another announcement that they do sort
of in the New year.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Out. I mean that seems they've all been saying that
that's pretty much a fatal complete and that's been confirmed
for about seems like about three or four months, and
that still hasn't been officially confirmed. So I don't know
what to make of all of it. Look, he'll be
driving in each one. I mean, it would be great
to see him in the Red Bull car official Red
Bull car. But if he's in there, I still think
(08:10):
that's that's going to be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, it'd be little cool either way.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
It means they can squeeze another excuse me, three or
four weeks out of us here and sell a few
more cans of fizzy drink.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Maybe that's maybe. Maybe Do you need to take your
trip to the doctor before before Christmas? Okay?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Save, I had the RONA a couple of weeks of
cold dust on the throat. Guy, I've been raving your
prison up.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I was going to say, I've had the COVID a
couple of weeks ago, and you need to make sure
you're not getting that because it's gonna it hit me hard.
But you're a blokes, it's going to hit you really.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I saw you'd sounded blocked up the last week, so
I don't realize it was COVID. I didn't realize people
still got that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Thanks for caring enough to ask anyway, what do you guy?
What do you reckon about the NRL handing this team
to P ANDNG. But then you know, tying it to
not getting involved with China.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I haven't really sad. I saw the headlines. I'll be honest,
I haven't actually dealt too much in the story. Oh look,
I think that's I didn't know the China link, so
you might have this.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Okay, so this is the China link. Guy is basically
they've given the team. So they're given the team to
P and G rather than US or anybody else who
wants it. And then they've said to them, here's six
hundred million for the next ten years to run the team,
and you only get to keep the team if you,
as a country do not sign a strategic geopolitical deal
or a military deal with China, which means that the
whole thing is actually not about P and G deserving
(09:31):
the team or making an NRL better. It's about a
little China move there from the USA and Australia.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, it's just ouzing politics.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I'm not huge on that at all. Before I
had heard that side of things, I thought it was
quite cool that there was going to be a pop
on New Guinea team in the NRL. They love I
think regular League over the air. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, love it,
So I'm not sure I'd want to go and play
a game there if as they are just rabid for
(10:02):
their rugby league over there, So I'm not sure. I
think it would be quite an intimidating place to go
to go and play rugby league.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
But it's not the first time country. It's not the
first time countries of big countries have offered money to
the islands. Is areheaded with with a bit of an
asterisk beside the money?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
No, but is it going to make your in ral
better for you to watch?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Look? I think P and G have been screaming out
for a team for a long time and they they
are immense rugby league fans. They go absolutely crazy that
all the league Aussie league stars are superstars and P
and G. I think it'll work. They get the right
players and right coaches, so I think it will be
great for the competition.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yes, yep, Okay, well here's hoping. All right, lads, Have
you guys got interesting things to do this summer.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Work? Oh?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Isn't that?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Isn't that so many people's stories? Sav what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You've gone very e.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
The next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yep, I'll be doing the same as you, so probably
find that I.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Find that quite interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That doesn't that doesn't sound much different from the.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Rest of the years, working your way around the Christmas
buffets and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Guys listen, enjoy your summer breaks. It has been lovely
to chat to you. Merry Christmas and we'll see you
again in the new year. That's Guy Helt and Andrew Savello
commentary Box this Monday.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
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