Full Show Podcast: 17 December 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
I love morning and welcome seven Pass six Coming up today,
We're going to find out from councils how they feel
about the government forcing them to get back to doing
their actual jobs, and then measuring it as well. We're
going to have a look at the state of the
government's books that'll be revealed later today. How bad will
the blood bath likely be? Why is our wine production
down by quite a lot? Chris Luxelan for the last

(00:32):
time they see a chef, Josh Emaden for a chat
and around the world with Catherine and Rodd.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Look, even people who think that councils do a fantastic
job generally must by now understand why the government is
going to have to pass the laws to get them
to actually focus on doing their jobs. I mean, it
has been clear now that I would say at least
four months, if not longer, to councils that the government
wants them to drop the distractions and just get on
with their work. And yet councils just apparently can't help themselves,
can they. I mean last week, as recently as last

(01:01):
week we had toting a city council voting to install
unelected Mary representatives on the council. That's not going to
improve ratepayers lives one jot, but it's just going to
cost them more money, isn't it. Hasting's District Council did
the same thing three months ago with a youth counselors. Again,
no extra benefit to a rate payer, just extra cost
to a rate payer. Wellington City Council is today going

(01:21):
to debate whether they should submit their feels to the
Government on the Treaty Principal's Bill, which has nothing to
do with them, not their job at all. A bunch
of other councils have done this as well. This stuff
is still going on despite months now of the Government
saying can you please just get back to doing r
job up and down the country, These guys show no
sign that they understand that's supposed to be cutting unnecessary

(01:42):
spending and focusing their minds on actually just running the council.
So it's come to this, right, So the Government announced
yesterday it's going to pass legislation to force them to
do their jobs. And there's two parts to this. The
first is that the four wellbeing pillars that task councils
with looking after economic wellbeing and social wellbearing and cultural
well being and environmental well being, they're all going to

(02:03):
be scrapped. That was a bad idea from the last
Labor government anyway. It was so broad that it was meaningless,
and so therefore it gave counsels an excuse to basically
expand their meddling into pretty much anything, because pretty much
anything is a well being. And then the second thing
is counsels will be forced to report clearly and simply
and publicly what they're spending their money on and what

(02:24):
they're charging their rate payers, and hopefully as a result
of this getting out the big stick, hopefully it will
mean that the excuses are cut, the distractions are dropped,
and these guys focus their minds on doing more work
for less cost to rate payers as well, because hoping
they get the message and do it voluntarily clearly hasn't worked.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Angela Rainer has announced huge public service reform.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
A plan for putting politics back in the service of
working people, a plum for stability, investment and reform, not chaos,
austerity and decline. And it's a plan that will deliver
a dead of national renewal.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Now to Lucy Letley, the baby killer, the lawyer says
he has rather new evidence that undermines the convictions.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
The defense will argue that Dr Evans is not a
reliable expert. And given that he was the lead expert
for the prosecution, do we say that all the convictions
are unsafe?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Now we've got some more info about Prince Andrew's friend,
the Chinese spy.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
He ran a company with a consultancy firm called Hampton
Group International. It was an advisory group that helped with
relationships between the UK and China.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
What was the spy actually doing that?

Speaker 7 (03:41):
The fact that he is able to call himself a
friend of the Duke will give him access to other
people with honty can cultivate some kind of a relationship
with a reals to influence those people.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
A new report shows a big surge in Israeli's being
spies for Iran.

Speaker 8 (04:01):
If we'll go check the last years, the last decades,
we can count on two hands how many people got
tosted for the last six months, we have over thirty
Israeli citizens that got toasted.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
And hey, I know what you're interested in right now.
You want to know if we've got any more info
on the drones above New Jersey.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
It's pointing to gaps in our capabilities and in our
ability to plant down on what's going on here.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I'd want our state police to be able to have
the authority to bring those drones down and find out
why they're doing what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
So that's a hard note on that. Finally, the latest
piece of iconic movie memorabilia has sold. This is Olivia
Newton John's lead the jacket that she wore in Greece
went under the hammer at an auction in Beverly Hills.
It was expected to sell for up to one hundred
and seventy three thousand dollars, but it went by eight
hundred and twenty thousand dollars. This is the second time
it's been sold, after Olivia Newson John auctioned it off

(04:59):
for four hundred and twenty thousand dollars for charity in
twenty nineteen. And that is news of the world in
ninety seconds. Now, I know Mike likes to bring you
the Democracy Watch round about this time, so he has
a little Democracy Watch update for you. German Chancellor all
of Schultz has just lost a confidence vote. This is
the first time it's happened in twenty years now. It
doesn't actually have a material a material impact on what's

(05:21):
going to happen next because they were already going to
go to an election, but regardless it has happened. It's
embarrassing for him. It was on the cards anyway since
the coalition collapsed last month after they had a bit
of a fight about spending the tax payer money and
stuff like that. So what needs to happen now he's
lost the confidence vote big not to his ego, He's
got to meet the president. The president then has twenty
one days to dissolve the parliament and then after that

(05:43):
they have sixty days to hold an election, so eighty
one days basically to the next election. But it sounds
like what they're going to do is probably stick with
a federal election date that's already been called, which is
February twenty three, six thirteen.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
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Speaker 2 (06:03):
Hey, It's a little bit grim. So I don't know
if you've been follows following the sentence or the trial
of the chap who was accused by his wife of
drugging her and raping her in It's massive over in
France and it, frankly is horrific. It's the sentencing week
for that. So Catherine Field will run us through those
details when she's with us in about half an hour.
Look slightly this and that sixteen past six Greg Smith

(06:28):
deven funds managements with us. Now, hey Greg, Hey, Heather mate,
the data out of China is still not improving.

Speaker 9 (06:35):
No, and it looks like we need more stimulus there.
So yeah, there was a lot of interest in the
data print out yesterday. Your question marks over the economy
obviously very important to us being the largest customer, and
there had been some signs of a tentative recovery. Remember
China's aiming for a growth rate of around five percent.
But yeah, we had retail sales data out that was

(06:55):
pretty weak. That rose three percent on a year ago.
That's the slowest pace in three months. It's below October's
increase of nearly five percent. Forecasts for around five percent
as well, So that disappointed a bit, And yeah, there's
lots of declines and cosmetics actually one down twenty six
percent if you look at sales there, so numbers aren't
exactly glistening. And you know, really, I suppose authorities have

(07:18):
to push along domestic demand because they really need to
do so as well, obviously with the potential protectionist measures
sort of coming from Trump at the like. And we
did have a policy conference last week where they talked
about forcefully lifting consumption, but as they say, the devil's
in the detail, and there wasn't much of that forthcoming
or the detail on the scale of the initiatives, so
they might need to do more of the sem we're

(07:39):
reluctant to make cash payouts to consumers. Another data print
also confirmed that, you know, things are pretty weak fixed
ASCID investment in China. The increased just three point three
percent year to date in November. That was a slow
down from the first ten months, and property investment fell
over ten percent, so suggests that the all important property
market is pretty subdued in terms of confidence. There was

(08:01):
some positive news in the industrial output that increased five
point four percent over the period. That was slightly better
than forecasts. Also the unemployment rate held at five percent.
But yeah, overall, it seems pretty clear that further stineuses
need to get China back on the up.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
And what are you making of the manufacturer of manufacturing
and service sector data that were getting out of the
rest of the world.

Speaker 9 (08:20):
Yes, it's quite interesting. So we've had a bunch of
that yesterday and overnight. And there's a pretty common theme
here that the services sector, and there's one important exception
which I'll get to, is going along pretty nicely and
it's compensating for weakness in the manufacturing sector. So this
is particularly true in the US. The services PMI that
hit a thirty eight months high and fifty eight point five,

(08:41):
and anything over fifty is expansion. So look, business is
booming in the States. It's actually the fastest pace of
growth in the services sector since the post COVID reopening
in twenty twenty one. Confidence over the twelve out look,
that's at a two and a half year high. But
then you look at the manufacturing sector still under pressure.
That's at forty eight point three to read there, so
that's in contraction territory. Material prices have also spiked interesting, Actually,

(09:04):
shipping costs are on the up, and I suppose it's
supply chains ramp up ahead of those protectionist measures. The
composite PMI, which combines both that hit fifty five point six.
That's the highest level in thirty three months. So overlooks
like the US isn't a good spot on track for
three percent growth this year, isn't as cheaper across the Atlantic.
In Europe, the service sect sector did get back into

(09:26):
expansion territory, but yeah, the manufacturing sector's still very much
in the doldrums there in Europe, weighed down by Germany
and France, and I've obviously both got a bit going
on politically at the moment. In the UK, the overal
PMI was a bit more positive, but manufacturing again week
eleven month low, services two months high. Similar divergence story
in Japan, factory activity contracting for the six straight month,

(09:48):
services sector going well, and if we look across the
Tasman a bit weaker again as well, but the services
sector of going along quite nicely, but private business output
at a three month low that was weighed down by manifes.
And then we get to New Zealand, a bit of
an anomally our services sector isn't going so great, and
that's been the case for some time. But the good
news is heither activity has picked up to the highest

(10:10):
level since February. But then we look at the manufacturing
sector that's now been in contraction for twenty one consecutive months.
So despite what we might think, things are still very
tough out there, even if they are getting perhaps least
bad in places.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, it's a very good point. Hey, listen, give me
the numbers.

Speaker 9 (10:27):
Yeah, sure, So the Dow is slightly weak of down
point one percent forty three eight seven five. Eas in
P five hundred is up point four percent six zero
seven one, NAZAC is up point nine percent twenty one
zero seven. Foot Seed down half percent eight two six two.
The NICKET in Japan that's flat thirty nine to four
to five seven. The CSI three hundred and China was
down half percent. The ASEX two hundred was down point

(10:49):
six percent eight two four nine. Insed X fifty we
had another good day, so we outperform regionally. We're up
point three percent twelve seven nine seven. Look at commoddies.
The gold price at four bucks two sixty five to two,
oil down seventy cent seventy spot fifty eight A boo.
Not such good news for chocolate lovers. They're here the
coco prices, they're rarely four percent to a record high

(11:11):
eleven thousand, seven hundred and sixty eight dollars a ton.
Any currency markets, We've got the Kiwi dollar up point
three percent against the US fifty seven point eight. Gets
the Australian dollar we're up point two percent ninety point seven,
and it's pound sterling down point three percent forty five
point six.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Good stuff, Greg, thanks very much, Enjoy the rest of
your day. That's Greeg Smith Devin Funds Management here. The
councils definitely need to get back to doing the basics properly.
This is from a long suffering Wellington CBD Dweller Kent.
Nobody suffers more than someone living in Wellington, and then
nobody suffers more than someone living in central Wellington. I've
got a list you're going to want to hear. This
list next about just how distracted these guys are getting.

(11:47):
Six to twenty one The Vike.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
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Speaker 3 (11:54):
I'd be righting O.

Speaker 9 (11:56):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
This is the list. Okay, now what this is. You
know I was telling you just before. Wellington City can
Council is going to vote today to decide whether it
needs to tell the government what it feels are about
the Treaty Principal's Bill.

Speaker 9 (12:07):
No.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
By no means the only council who really just wants
to have its feels out there. We've done a Google
search and these are the councils who, instead of fixing
problems in your area, are just sitting around a table
having a chat about the Treaty Principal's Bill. Now this
is bear in mind, as I say, a quick Google search,
by no means comprehensive. Auckland voted to oppose the bill,
so they're going to Auckland City Council is going to

(12:30):
go to the government be like, we don't like your bill, Auckland.
You Plymouth District Council going to oppose the bill. South
Taranaki submitting to oppose the bill presumably, but they're going
to vote on it exactly how they feel about in
the new year. Stratford making a submission criticizing the process
lack of consultation. Selwyn voted to oppose the bill. Canterbury
regional voter to oppose the bill, to need and voter
to oppose the bill, he can voter to oppose the bill.

(12:53):
Wikat L District voter to oppose the bill unanimously. Gisbon
District voted to oppose the bill. Put it to a
city voter to oppose the bill or to a district
voter to oppose the bill. Who cares? I like to
be fair? Who actually cares what these people think? Anyway?
Shout out to Tartarnaki Regional Council who was like, We're
not even going to talk about this, It's none of
our business. What ifener a district council not going to
make a submission, an Ashburton council decided not to vote

(13:15):
as a council can leave it up to individual members.
What a waste of everybody's absolute time. A six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Trending now where warehouse your home for Christmas shopping?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
So the annual Royal Variety Show ed in the UK overnight.
It was actually filmed November twenty two, but then appears
on Tally about three weeks later, hosted by Amanda Holden
and Alan Carr. Appearances from Elton John and Stevenmill heard
and this is a bit of an insight into King
Charles's humor because he was seen laughing at the hardest
at two jokes. The first was from Yorkshire comedian Scott Bennett,

(13:47):
who talked about camping and how long the zips on
tents are are at three am. It's three in the morning.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Pictures like you're desperate for the toilet and you're doing
that ah.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
And that's the number one.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Who looks to that fort.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
You'll improve this, mate.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Three mozits all go in different directions.

Speaker 10 (14:12):
And don't get me started on.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
The people who do it slowly, the slowly people. Have
you heard these people? They were next to us just
six hours to leave the tenths ah. And then this
was political Cetiris Mike met Ford with his Trump impression.

Speaker 10 (14:28):
Donald Trump has.

Speaker 11 (14:29):
Got re elected and it is a great honor to
be here today at the Royal vasectomy.

Speaker 12 (14:40):
In a room full of three million people, which is
ready to be here.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I mean the stuff he comes out with.

Speaker 13 (14:47):
They're reading the cats, they're reading the dads.

Speaker 12 (14:51):
Your majesty, King Charles, you're named after a span.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
You'll be very careful.

Speaker 10 (14:55):
They'll lead you alive, very.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Good next news dogs ed.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Me demanding the answers from the decision makers can then
duplessy Ellen on the my asking breakfast with al Vida,
Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News togs Head be.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Catherin Fielder is with us out of France shortly just
in the UK on this business that's developing with Andrew.
This is Prince Andrew obviously in the Chinese Spy Chinese
spies now been named alleged Chinese spies asked for himself
to be named in order to be able to defend himself,
says unsurprisingly, I'm not a Chinese spy. But apparently reportedly
Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson have pulled out of the
church walk at Sandringham, which is their big It's the

(15:38):
big punishment this time of the year. If you do
something naughty, you don't get to go to the church.
They have apparently made the calls that call themselves. According
to the Daily Mail, yeah right, and instead they not
even know to Sandringham at all. They're gonna they're gonna
celebrate the Christmas holiday at Royal Lodge in Windsor, so
properly excommunicated twenty two away from seven. It looks like

(16:00):
a significant number of Keywis are using pharmaceutical drugs to party,
or at least not for the reason that the drugs
are meant for. This is the second set of findings
from that big New Zealand Drug Trend survey, and it's
found four in one and four kiwis are doing this
with the old pharmaceuticals. Massive University drug researcher Chris Wilkins
is with us. Now, Hey, Chris, good morning morning. What
kind of drugs are we talking about?

Speaker 14 (16:23):
All kinds of drugs opioids, ADHD, medicifications and also bends
that die depends on some of the most common and
what are they?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
What are people doing with them? Is this to have
a good time to get high?

Speaker 14 (16:38):
Well, I think it's important to keep in mind that
this is a really complex issue, so motivations for use
can vary from just even things like I can't get
to the doctor myself, or I can't afford to go
to the doctor, so I've got medications hanging around all
the way through to as you said, supplementing illegal drug
use for purely recreational youth.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
And how are people getting their hands on it? Is
it that they're getting it from their mates who've got
ADHD pills prescribed to them or what.

Speaker 14 (17:08):
Yeah, this is very much kind of a network social
network supply issue. So nearly all of these drugs originally
came from legitimate pharmaceutical sources through the medical system, but
then they're just exchanged around within personal friend networks.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Are you worried about them?

Speaker 14 (17:28):
I think so. I mean sometimes people can have a
false sense of security that they're using a pharmaceutical medication,
that it's lower risk. But some of these drugs, particularly
opioids and benzodiazepines, have a very high addiction potential, and
people just should be really aware that a lot of

(17:49):
these pharmaceutical drugs are very close to the legal drug variety,
and they should be aware that mixing drugs, in particular
with illegal drugs or for recreational purposes can result in
an increased risk.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Chris, how much of this is being driven by the
fact that it is fashionable again to try things to
you open your mind up for you know, for I
guess therapeutic reasons.

Speaker 15 (18:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (18:14):
One of the really interesting things we found this year
was that of the people that are saying they were
using psychedelics, a quarter of them said they were using
it for therapeutic reasons, and this is something that is
globally you may have heard of a lot of countries
are now adapting some of their psychology counseling to allow

(18:36):
use of psychedelics and controlled, supervised situations for some mental
health conditions. But I think there's been a long standing
kind of feeling within with psychedelic users that this can
increase well being, change their state of mind and maintenance
see problems differently. So there's still a lot of research

(18:58):
to go with that, but there is some positive findings
in terms of some types of mental illness under supervision,
psyched lects can really help people.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
All right, Hey, Chris, thanks very much, really appreciated this.
Chris Wilkens, massive university drug researcher. By the way, on
the opie Witz thing, especially over in the State, it's
got a little update for you on that just quickly.
Donald Trump has just how a little press conference at
Mara Lago and he's got into the drones.

Speaker 12 (19:21):
The government knows what is happening. Look, our military knows
where they took off from. If it's a garage, they
can go right into that garage. They know where it
came from and where it went, and for some reason
they don't want to comment, and I think they'd be
better off saying what it is. Our military knows and

(19:42):
our president knows, and for some reason they want to
keep people in suspense. I can't imagine it's the enemy,
because it was the enemy they'd blasted out, even if
they were late, they'd blasted Something strange is going on.
For some reason, they don't want to tell the people,
and they should because the people are really I mean,
they're happen to be over Bedminster.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
We want to know the job.

Speaker 12 (20:04):
We're very they're very close to Bedminster. I think maybe
I won't spend the weekend in bad Minster. I've decided
to cancel my trip.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Have you received an intelligence briefing on the drones?

Speaker 12 (20:15):
I don't want to comment on that.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Oh, he's obviously being told what's going on. He obviously
knows what's going on. Everybody obviously in government knows what's
going on. And they're not saying he's got a fair
point though, people that can play I don't know if
you've seen the videos, but it's there are people filming
these drones in the sky and weeping like in fear
from what they think it's some sort of like a
sci fi thing that actually come into real life. That

(20:39):
freaking out, You know, nobody freaks out like an American.
They are freaking out about it. And he's got a point.

Speaker 16 (20:43):
Do you reckon there's a bit of a casual use
of prescription medicines going on?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Would I would say that would be a charitable explanation
for what's going on there? Who knows. But he's got
a point, hasn't he? That actually the government ought to
just say what's going on and put people out of
their misery. It's seventeen away from seven.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
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Speaker 2 (21:05):
It be some commentators are saying hither that the drones
and Nukesniffer drones, which is why the government isn't saying
anything so as not to panic people. G was I'm
going to tell you what. The conspiracy theories are coming
in hard and fast. But why not That's what happens
quarter too.

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Speaker 2 (21:24):
Catherine Field, France correspondent with US Now Morning Catherine, Good morning, Heather.
So we've got the sentencing of the husband in the
rape trial this week. Do we have any idea how
long this guy could get?

Speaker 17 (21:35):
Yes, this is Dominique ka Pellico, who of course is
facing a charge of aggravated rape, having introduced some fifty
possibly seventy men into his family home to rape his wife.

Speaker 18 (21:49):
It looks as though he'll get twenty years.

Speaker 17 (21:51):
It's a maximum sentence that can be handed down for
what he's charged with, aggravated rape. No one's expecting him
to get less that, certainly when his lawyer got up
and addressed the court last week, she said, look, he's
agreed to that he did all this. He said, he's guilty,
but please remember he's done all this. He's answer for forgiveness.

(22:11):
But he's seventy years old. He doesn't have many years
left in him. So we're all now just sitting waiting. Obviously,
the judge in the case has said that he could
hand down a sentence as early as Thursday, but it
could possibly be Friday.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
And what about the other chaps who are involved here?
Are they all being sentenced this week as well?

Speaker 17 (22:32):
They will all be sentenced as well. Fifty men, including
of course the husband. The men all aged between twenty
six and seventy four years old. To give me some
idea of the court, Heather, I mean, I've been in
that courtroom. I've been and having you many times to
see this. It's a very strange place because it's a
tiny court. This is a town which isn't used to

(22:53):
having this sort of trial going on, and so you've
got this tiny court where you've got there's absolutely my
new woman and he's ow pellicolled, the woman who has
raped so many times. They're in court face to face
with the man who are accused of having raped her.
She is face to face with them and at the
same time looking at the videos that are shown to

(23:15):
the court of those men raping her. And it's just
the strangest, most horrible thing you can ever imagine self being.

Speaker 18 (23:23):
But she goes into court every day.

Speaker 17 (23:25):
Women and sometimes young men stand in the court, clap
her into court, cheer her on, and at the end
of each day she again walks out. People give her flowers,
they cheer her. And it's just the strength of that
woman that.

Speaker 18 (23:38):
No one can understand.

Speaker 17 (23:39):
Where this grandmother has gotten the strength to turn it
everything on its.

Speaker 18 (23:44):
Head and say she isn't ashamed. It's those men who
are accused of rape who should be.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, I mean, it is quite remarkable how she has
basically put herself out there and just and not taken
on any of the shame. But I saw recently she's
changed her name and she has moved town. Is there
a certain measure of anonymity now or is I mean,
is it the case that she is so famous if
she walks down the street in France, everybody knows who
she is.

Speaker 19 (24:09):
Oh.

Speaker 17 (24:09):
She right from the start, when she decided that she
was not going to have this court case behind closed doors,
she gave away all anonymity.

Speaker 18 (24:18):
Her name is out there. People know her.

Speaker 17 (24:21):
I mean you see posters up on the streets and
towns across France saying you're celebrating her strength. So yeah,
her name is out there. Yes, she's changed the name,
but she's changed it to her made a name. Her
three children are also well known, the daughter.

Speaker 18 (24:37):
The daughter has.

Speaker 17 (24:38):
Also written about this because there were videos found that
her father had taken off her in underwear that wasn't hers.
So she now says that she doesn't know whether she
was raped either.

Speaker 18 (24:50):
He says he didn't rape it. So you've got all.

Speaker 17 (24:53):
These people, very famous people now part of French life,
that are almost not just here in France, but her
household names.

Speaker 18 (25:00):
Their faces are all over the media all the time.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Ye, it's incredible. Hey, so do you reckon we're going
to go with Fabrie for the election in Germany?

Speaker 18 (25:07):
It looks like that. Yeah.

Speaker 17 (25:09):
Just a couple of hours ago, the German Parliament had
a vote of confidence.

Speaker 18 (25:13):
Of course, the chancellor lost it. Now lost that vote.

Speaker 17 (25:17):
What happens now is the German president has twenty one
days to decide on whether or not to dissolve the
lower house of Parliament. Now it might seem a little
strange to the voter's gone through. Everything should go ahead
then to have an election within sixty days. But the President,
FRANKL folter Steinmier, came out just a couple of hours
ago and said no, there will be no instant dissolving

(25:42):
of parliament. He said he needs to talk to different
political parties to find out of the land and it
might not even be until after the Christmas break before
he finally dissolves parliament. And what he said was, and
I'm quoting here, Heather, the hectic pace of party, politics
and the beat of the media do not dictate procedure.

Speaker 18 (26:02):
The Constitution and its rules do.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Hey, thank you very much, Catherine, really appreciate it. Catherine Field,
France Correspondents Morning.

Speaker 20 (26:09):
Here.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Due to a couple of medical conditions, I've got some
fairly serious medication I don't always need, but when I do,
I really need them. But it's very hard to see
someone you care about or a close friend in pain
for whatever reason and they can't get to the doctor
for often a month, six weeks. I would say a
percentage of the misuse of drugs could be along the
same lines, probably true. Ay, I mean, you think about
how often you've gone to the doctor and the doctor's gone, oh,

(26:30):
he's he's five thousand panadoles for you, and then yet
your mum comes over with a headache, and you go,
I just take a shit of those. Yeah, take some neurofens,
take some tramadol, take some codine. You know what I mean.
I think we're all doing it, aren't we to some
extent where just one I've ever heard was somebody I
love very dearly and thought was smarter than this using
half a packet of somebody else's antibiotics to get over

(26:53):
a cold, which means I only had half a course seat.
It's not very smart, is it? Nine away from seven?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
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Speaker 2 (27:04):
I just reminded we're going to speak to Campbell Barry
of Local Government, New Zealand after seven to get his
take on what the government is doing to local councils.
Is six away from seven.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
All the ins and the outs.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
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Speaker 2 (27:24):
Now, the US has done the restaurant industry winners and
losers list and over what's happened is over the course
of the year, prices for food away from home went
up three point six percent, but while the grocery prices
rose just as one point six percent, so cooking at
home was pretty much for some more attractive Because of it.
Many cut their restaurants spending, which caused lower profits for
most and twenty six bankruptcy filings for chains including Red

(27:46):
Lobster and TGI Friday. So let's have a look at
the losers first. Not your typical this restaurant sucked and
this one didn't type list o K, So here we go.
Loser fast food in general, less money spent put traffic
down two percent. Loser Burgers, McDonald's because of the E
coli outbreak, Wendy's because it closed one hundred and forty restaurants,
and Burger King because it had lower foot traffic because

(28:07):
of high prices. They all had lackluster years. Loser casual
dining traffic was apparently down two percent to casual dining restaurants.
And I've already mentioned the bankruptcies. But enough of the loser, right,
Let's talk about the winners yet. So winner value value
became the restaurant's CEO's favorite word, as five dollars value
meals were launched all over the place and orders of

(28:28):
value meals were up nine percent. Another winner is Chicken.
Apparently chicken focused fast food chains performed the best this year.
The only one not to have a good year was
Weirdly KFC, which you'd say would be the most well known.
Another winner is Taco Bell, the only one of the
main player young brand restaurants to report an increase in
same as same store sales growth, and another winner chap

(28:51):
called Brian Nickel. Brian Nichol is the new chief executive
of Starbucks. He came in from Chipotle immediately saw a
positive swing in the shares. With twenty seven billion dollar
for Starbucks. He's seen as the top public restaurants CEO
in the US. His ideas his proposals have led analysts
to name Starbucks as the likely best performer for twenty
twenty five. So overall, restaurants and fast food chains in

(29:12):
general are declared the winners for twenty twenty four, mostly
for the expectations heading into twenty twenty five. If I
had a winner's list and a loser's list, out for
Berger's on the winner's list when a new Burger wins
every single time. Now, we're going to find out very shortly. Well,
when I say very shortly, we're going to find out
in a few hours time, just you know how bad
the government's books are, because Treasury is going to release

(29:32):
its half year Economic Update or HIFU. We'll have a
little chat to Bryce Wilkinson, former Treasury director about that
very shortly, because he'll have a bit of an insight
into it. I think what you might be interested in
is just how much debt we're going to have to
take on depending on how bad the books are. We'll
talk about that and then also definitely a loser for
US wine not doing very well at the moment. Wine

(29:53):
exports down this year by twenty percent. Will explain why
news tooks.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
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Speaker 1 (30:09):
Heather Duplicy Allen on the mic Hosking breakfast with the
range Rover villa designed to intrigue can use togs.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
That'd be good morning. So Cabinet has agreed to pass
law to force counsels to go back to focusing on
their actual jobs. The law changes will include making councils
publicly report in very simple terms what they're spending money
on from mid next year. Local Government New Zealand Vice
President Campbell Barriers with US Morning.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Campbell, good morning.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
You won't have a problem with this, will you.

Speaker 13 (30:37):
I think there's a lot of potential good things that
can come from benchmarking scene wherever councils sit alongside yourself,
it's not necessarily a bad thing. I think we're just
going to make sure that we're measuring the right things
and that we are comparing apples with apples when we
do this exercise as well. But I think transparency for
ratepayers are focus on bringing rates down as something that

(30:57):
all councils are pretty keen on.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
What about taking away the full wellbeing pillars that the
Labor government put in. You're happy to see the back
of them.

Speaker 13 (31:05):
Oh, look, this has come and gone from my time
in local government of the last fourteen years, two or
three times now, so I would say it's probably not
actually going to make a huge difference the purpose of
the Local Government Act. I think exercises like benchmarking looking
at how we can be more transparent with rate payers
around where we actually are investing in what we're doing,

(31:25):
so ultimately they can hold us accountable, not the government.
I think rate payers are the ones who should be
holding us accountable is the most important thing. So I
think that's something that councils will be open to and
seeing how we can do things better.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I thought that the well being pillars were part of
the reason and part of the problem with the wellbeing
pillars were that they were forcing councils to start considering
all these other things like cultural wellbeing and social wellbeing
and economic well being and so on, and they were
being used to justify a lot of the stuff that
was kind of outside the scope of traditional council work.
If we take them away, does it not force the
councils to actually focus a little bit more carefully on

(31:59):
the adgin all nuts and bolts.

Speaker 13 (32:02):
Well, I mean you just have to look at it back.
You know, the John Key government removed the four well
Beings from the Local Government Act. I actually don't think
it made a real difference in regards to how councils operated.
The Labor Government brought them back, and I just don't
think that actually makes a real difference. So for me,
I think exercises like the benchmarking looking at how we

(32:23):
can be more transparent makes more sense and it's actually
going to make a tangible difference on the ground. The
reality is, regardless of the four well Beings and are
in there, that's always going to come into play in
some form, even when it comes to our delivery of
our basic infrastructure for councils.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah, so it sounds like you guys are still bristling
a little bit of the fact that government is getting
involved here.

Speaker 13 (32:43):
Yeah, look at the Government's made their expectations pretty clear
at the Local Government Conference of where they were hitting.
We're actually supportive of benchmarking if it's done well. If
it's not done well, then there's a real problem there.
For example, if you're comparing debt per head of population
or rates increases in a growth council like Hamilton versus
Central Books day, you are comparing the apples and oranges.

(33:06):
So you know there is some work that needs to
be done to make sure it is something that is
actually effective and will make tangible differences on the ground.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
It's stuff, Campbell, Thanks very much, Campbell. Barry Local Government,
New Zealand Vice President.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Heather duper selim past seven.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
We're going to find out today just how stuff the
government's books are when Treasury releases its half year Economic
Update or the HIAFU. Now it already sounds like the
Finance Minister is softening us up for a return to
surplus to be a year later than we had expected
and with us now as the former Treasury director in
New Zealand Initiative Senior Fellow Bryce Wilkinson, Hey.

Speaker 21 (33:38):
Brice, it's good morning.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Given what's happening with the economy at the moment, are
you happy to see the surplus pushed out or do
you expect better.

Speaker 21 (33:49):
Well, I'm not happy to see it pushed out, but
if it's pushed out, that's what it is. What I'm
really looking for is signs of even more determined action
by the government to stop so much wasteful public spending
and to use assets better, and also to do things

(34:12):
about New Zealand's awfully slow growth and productivity. It's that
slow growth which isn't producing much income growth and therefore
the government's not getting much revenue growth, so that's part.

Speaker 13 (34:24):
Of the problem.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
What kind of cutting would you like to see.

Speaker 21 (34:29):
Well, the government sort of holding public service numbers way
above where they were pre COVID, and a government spending
is running at about two percent of GDP higher than
it was pre COVID, So it's a case of chasing
value for money and government spending. I particularly support the

(34:53):
government's initiative in the social policy space of bringing back
the Social Investment of COACH, which really has a focus
on pointing out what programs work.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Bryce the government doesn't have to push the surplus out right.
They could actually do what you're saying, what you're advocating for,
which is just cut really deep and get us back
into surplus. Earlier, can't they?

Speaker 21 (35:16):
Yes, that that could be done, so why not. I've
been hoping that in last year's budget the government would
have done more, but it left itself of very little
physical room for maneuver with extra operating spreein there, then
spend a lot more money on pharmaceuticals and yeah, so

(35:40):
it's it's put itself under more pressure this year by
not doing more last year.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah so right, Bryce, thanks very much, doctor Bryce Wilkinson,
former Treasury Director in New Zealand Initiative Senior Fellow Dull
Shane Ritti has just in the last few minutes announced
that he is boosting security again for emergency apartments to
keep them safe this summer, because of course we know
it's been a bit hairy in the old emergency departments
and they have committed a fair wack of cash over

(36:07):
four years to actually having security guards and emergency departments.
But twenty hospitals around the country will receive additional funding
this summer. He hasn't specified which hospitals, but you could
probably guess it'll be places that we all go Coramandal, Toad,
up North, anywhere anywhere which are holiday hotspots Tope wide.
Imagine they're probably going to get a little bit of

(36:27):
help there with the security. Speaking of the high fu
now we're going to talk to Chris Luxon, who's going
to be with us after half past seven about this.
But it works as simply as this. Right where we
open the books today, we see how stuff the government's
finances are because we're in recession, because Adrian or etcetera, etcetera.
You can work, you fill in the blanks there. But

(36:48):
if we do not get to surplus in twenty seven
twenty eight like we're supposed to, what that means is
we're going to have to take on more debt. Now,
just to put this in some perspective for you, the
debt that we already have is massive, and it is
costing us just an interest payments about nine billion dollars
every single year. Nine billion dollars is enough to pay
every single year for the defense force, the police, the corrections, customs,

(37:14):
and then still leave you a cool billion dollars in
the pocket. That is how much money we're blowing. So
if we take on more debt, that just goes up
fourteen past the Mike.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
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Speaker 2 (37:28):
I'm going to run you through. We got a little
update for you on the Manyerebo Mari investigation. Run you
through that shortly. It's seventeen past seven. Now, our wine
production this year looks like it's going to be the
lowest in twenty years. And not just us. It's not
just in us problem, it's the entire Southern hemisphere. Kee
we John Barker runs the International Organization of Vine and
Wine and is with us. Now, hey, John Hill, Now

(37:49):
our problem appears to be a frost and Marlborough.

Speaker 22 (37:51):
Is that right?

Speaker 23 (37:52):
Yeah, it seems to be the case.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, And what about the rest of the Southern hemisphere.

Speaker 23 (37:58):
Well, really it's the case for the rest of the world.
I think we've seen a whole bunch of different climatic
impacts around the world.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
So we've had.

Speaker 23 (38:10):
We've had frost, we've had flooding, we've had heat, we've
had disease pressure in various different places. In fact, the
southern hemisphere is a bit down, but the northern hemispheres
is probably down even more that. That in fact has
a lot to do with France having a very small
harvest this year. I think there were twenty three percent

(38:31):
down in total.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
What happened to them.

Speaker 22 (38:35):
A combination.

Speaker 23 (38:36):
Again, it's reasonably I know because I looked there was
reasonably cool year in some places, well cool where I was,
but in south very hot in some places had disease
pressure as well, caused by rains.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
So John, is this just is this a function of
climate change? We're just going to have the climate is
going to change and wine production is going to be
up down as it does that.

Speaker 23 (39:02):
Yeah, wine productions always up and down. And what we've
seen historically you should be very up and down before
we had better techniques, and that variation has kind of
narrowed off. But in the last fifteen years we've seen
the variation between global harvests of get bigger and bigger,
and that's definitely due to climate change.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Hey, do you know what I was reading something fascinating
last night. Do you see the Scandies are growing wine
now in really really cold parts of their countries?

Speaker 23 (39:29):
I know, I know, it's quite extraordinary. In fact, the
end of day I received a letter from the Norwegian
grape growers wanting to become members of our organization.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Did you say, absolutely not with your weird kind of wine?

Speaker 23 (39:43):
I haven't actually tried their wine, but I think if
if they can do, we've got on them.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
It's made from a grape called Solaris, isn't it.

Speaker 23 (39:50):
Yeah, Yeah, well Solaris is one of these grapes that
are made by combining two great varieties and that they
can be a bit more hearty to the colder conditions.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
What do you expect to taste like, John, I imagine
if you're growing grapes in a really cold place, it's
going to be quite sharp.

Speaker 23 (40:07):
You'll definitely have a more acidity in the taste profile.
It probably depends a bit on the nature of the
rightening season. But yeah, some of these priorities will accumulate
a bit more sugar so they weren't too sharp.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, interesting stuff, John, Thanks very much appreciated. John Barker,
International Organization of Vine and Wine Direct to general. So
listen on the monyere w made right. We'll be keeping
an eye on that. That's the investigation into the polling
booth that was put in the media, which obviously was
a really bad decision because the MRI was being run
by a woman who was also running as a candidate
in the election then went on to win the electorate,

(40:41):
So that raised all kinds of questions. That investigation was
supposed to come out last Thursday, and it didn't. It
has now been delayed to the end of January. Now
I think that's good because more people are going to
be paying attention at the start of the year than
they would two weeks before Christmas. Actually sounds like it's
going to be very interesting because apparently the findings are
going to impact all of the public service, and some
of the things that come out of the investigation will

(41:03):
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Speaker 3 (42:17):
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Speaker 2 (42:19):
The grapes of Marlborough Fine Vineyards will be dumping grapes
this harvest because they still have wine and their tanks
due to the lack of sales, has got nothing to
do with the wather the tracy, thanks very much. Seven
twenty four. Now, look, this business of our police going
on a trip to China is actually not a big deal,
but the way that the cops are being weird about
it is making this a big deal. Isn't it. No
one believes the police story, surely. I mean, the police
story is nothing to see here, was just a holiday,

(42:42):
had nothing to do with the police itself, even though
thirty three police officers just happened to all go to
the same place at exactly the same time, organized by
Jessica at work, and not organized by Jessica at work
during work hours. She was just doing it on her weekends.
And even though someone on that trip emailed the boss
afterwards and said, yeah, the t was really productive, had
nothing to do with work. No one's going to buy

(43:02):
that story. That doesn't pass the sniff test, does it.
I mean, yeah, like maybe they all took annual leave
and paid for it themselves, and and Jessica organized it
during her weekends. But to pretend that it had absolutely
nothing to do with being a police officer is obviously
stretching credibility, and I think that that's what's keeping people
interested in it, because it feels like the cops have
got something to hide here. They shouldn't have anything to

(43:24):
hide here. This is very normal stuff. Big powers like
China do this kind of stuff all the time. They
try to use soft power to influence influences. I mean,
the States does it right that every year the States
chooses somebody from New Zealand, often from the media, flies
them out to the US, and if I remember correctly,
it's all expenses paid, and then they join other people
from around the world have also been selected, and they

(43:45):
go on a tour of all these places around the
country Washington, New York, San fran Florida, whatever. And the
whole point of the thing is just to create an affinity,
like a soft spot for America. Ten years ago thereabouts,
I went on that trip, and as long as you
see it for what it is, it's not a problem.
It's just soft power trying to influence you. It's the
same with China. China's not our enemy. We have a

(44:07):
complicated relationship with China, yes, but frankly, the relationship with
the US can also at times be a little complicated.
On the face of it, there is nothing to see
here other than a bunch of police going on a
cultural trip to China, clearly organized through the police in
some way, and clearly with the blessing of the police bosses.
There is nothing weird about this. But by pretending they

(44:27):
have absolutely nothing to do with it despite all the
evidence to the contrary. The cops are at the moment
making this feel really weird.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Hever dupe Ellen Prime ministers with.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Us shortly might ask him about that, and Connall texts
yesterday Connall text to say that the Vineyard bridge was
broken again, and I didn't mention it was. I thought, Nah,
can't be true. Can't be true. The bridge was down
for nine months, they fixed it on Friday. Can't be
broken by Monday again. It's broken by Monday again. Connell
was bang on broken by Monday again. Look, granted it

(44:57):
was only down yesterday for ten to fi fifteen minutes,
but jas at broad Jay I would say, do not
be pinning your hopes on that bridge in Auckland being
part of your commute. This is the one that goes
up and down, up and down, up and down, because
obviously the up and down bit doesn't really work that well.
So just factor that in news togs. He'd be prom Minister.

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Listen.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
News just coming in from the States. There has been
a shooting at another school. It's Christian school in Wisconsin.
Five dead, possibly some in hospital as well, and the
shooter as a juvenile, so anywhere between fourteen and seventeen
years old. Right now, it's twenty three away from Aiden
with us as the Prime Minister. Chris Lux and good morning, Chris.

(46:08):
Are you there, Chris?

Speaker 22 (46:09):
I am.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Can you hear me? Gremlin's in the system, not your fault,
so don't worry about it. Yes, I can hear you. Hey, listen,
I got a text. I got a text from somebody
yesterday to say that I've been giving Eric a stan
for too much credit. And the phone in school's band
was actually your idea?

Speaker 22 (46:22):
Was it?

Speaker 10 (46:23):
Well?

Speaker 25 (46:23):
We both were very passionate about it. Yeah, I was
very passionate about it. I'd seen it in other parts
of the world, and we'd seen the advice actually from
schools that already had it.

Speaker 10 (46:31):
But yeah, no, soon we both joined.

Speaker 25 (46:34):
We both put that forward and we got that through,
which is great, and we got it done fast.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Because I did actually did you care so much about it.

Speaker 25 (46:41):
Well, because it's I mean, basically, principals, teachers, parents, kids
filed out of control about it. The reality was at
the massive distraction in the classroom. We've got serious issues
around literacy and numeracs. We've talked before in school attendance.
Those are the three things we've got to focus on,
back to basics. And it's been cool because actually, yes,
we took a bit of grief from the media, the
beginning and the opposition, but the point is the principles

(47:02):
a saying, rugby bles are going through windows again, kids
are actually talking to each other, cyber bullying is down,
and kids are less distracted. So all of that's a
good thing. And it's funny how even kids today will
come up to me and say, no, that's been a
good thing promised. So Nana, I'm on board with that.
That's okay, and so it's been good. So that's a
common sense, you know, a solution to a very common
problem that we've been having.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
So and a very big problem. And make sure that
I give you some of the credit next time I
give her credit for it.

Speaker 25 (47:28):
Well, I didn't know you were a Norwegian wine expert.

Speaker 10 (47:30):
I just heard it coming into your show.

Speaker 25 (47:32):
So I was thinking talking about all the big issues
of the day. He says, you know a lot about.

Speaker 10 (47:36):
Norwegian, some random great worry and do you know what
it is, Chris subject.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Well, what it is, Chris, is that when you can't
have something because you're heavily pregnant, you just get really
obsessed with it. Do you know what I mean? It's
one of those fomo, That's what I've got.

Speaker 9 (47:49):
At the minute you knew.

Speaker 25 (47:50):
The type of grapes and everything, it was quite something.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Well, thank you. Hey, so the high food today, should
we expect that you guys are going to push the
surplus out by another year?

Speaker 9 (47:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (47:59):
Look, I'm not going to premp the actual announcement that's coming,
but no surprises to anyone listening that times are tough
and we've had a pretty you know, we've inherited very
challenging economics.

Speaker 10 (48:08):
Look, we've got a choice, which as we could.

Speaker 25 (48:10):
Continue carrying on spending as the last lot did, which
was tax spend and borrow more and massive debt that
we've got to deal with and interest payments around that,
or alternatively, we can throw the economy into really hard
austerity and that wouldn't be good either. I think we've
found the right balance, which is that actually we can
do get the front line right, get more value for

(48:30):
money out of the public service. We got to continue
that work for sure. That's not a one off, that
is daily practice here.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
We have to do that.

Speaker 25 (48:37):
We've been able to get people tax relief and we're
able to make some of these investments around the future.
But you know, sometimes people say, well, why can't you
just go spend four billion dollars on fairies or three
billion on Dunedin Hospital. Those are tough choices and the
reason is that we need to have financial discipline in
place because how it manifests itself is with more in
big a debt, which we just can't have. And ultimately,

(48:58):
I think here the stuff that you and I've talked
about in the past is for the last thirty years
this country has had of what we call an economic
productivity disease. Despite how hard we work, with some of
the hardest working people on earth, we haven't been able
to generate higher incomes that actually transform the quality of
our life. So you know, we need to invest in
the long term pieces around education and science and.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Infrastratally, but you can cut harder than you are.

Speaker 10 (49:21):
Well, we're going to continue the pressure.

Speaker 25 (49:23):
But you know, I think we found I think we're
finding the balance and you can kind of see that
those settings are leading to know inflation and interest rate
and text.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Can we really say it's a balance, Chris. If you
still have more public servants working for us right now
than we had pre COVID, well.

Speaker 25 (49:38):
There's more to do, That's what I'm saying. We're going
to continue that. I mean, you see us work within
the next few years. We've talked about very very tight
operating allowances which we're committed to working within, and that
will mean that we have to drive and extract more
value for money without to do.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Then why not just do it all in one go.
I mean, if you know that you're going to have
to cut harder, why drag it out and why right now?

Speaker 10 (49:59):
Well we are.

Speaker 25 (50:00):
We're going to continue to push hard and that's been
the message immediately the day after budget twenty four this
year was exactly that message to my ministers and to
the public services. This is how we're going to continue
to roll. We're going to be relentless about making sure
we get value for money, a return on that investment
that has to happen. And so yes, you're right, there's
more to do. But where we know that, and that's
how we are rolling through.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Think about it. I mean, nobody, nobody if you know that.
If you if you're running a household budget and you
know that you're getting into trouble with the credit card,
you don't cut. You don't cut a little bit, little bit,
little bit little bit. You go hard and you just
cut all the big expenses. Why ain't you guys taking
a similar approach.

Speaker 25 (50:35):
Well, hard austerity actually has a whole bunch of other implications.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
It's not hard austerity, Chris, because if you're just taking
us back to pre COVID public servant levels, that's not austerity.

Speaker 25 (50:44):
Well that may well be where we get too. But
the point is that we are working our way through
that and we're doing that in a sensible kind of
way as we just you know, as we think about
message very clearly to cease has been make sure all
the programs that you've got going on, all the funding
that you've got going on. And I can tell you
you know, there's an awful lot of providers, there's an
awful lot of money going out the door. A lot

(51:04):
of it gets lost in the bureaucracy. We're expecting massive
amounts of efficiency. We've had all the government agencies go
through what we call performance plans just in the last
couple of months, because that is actually helping those sees
to really focus on what we're asking them to deliver.
That's why the goals are there, That's why the corterly
action plans are there, because we want them to be
focused on the things that matter the most. And there's

(51:25):
a lot of stuff that's been going on, a lot
of bureaucracy that's built up that we've got to take
out of the system and so and liberate it and
make it simpler. We have a terrible habit in this
country of complexing things and making things very duplicate. If
you've heard us talk about councils yesterday, well, the reason
is councils and local government are doing some of the
same stuff, and they should be complementary and working together

(51:48):
doing the respective roles that they have, not counsels trying
to do the work of central government and voice vice versa.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Listen on the fairies, were you guys ready to sign
a contract for some new fairies? In October.

Speaker 25 (51:58):
Well, we've I mean feries, I saw your reporting on
that over the end of last week. But what I'd
say is it's really important we get this one rise.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
You can't funfold it now, and I want you to.
But we're signed a contract in October.

Speaker 25 (52:11):
Well we've got we don't need to because if you
work backwards, the theories need to be replaced in twenty
twenty nine. We actually don't need to make a decision
on the procurement of that to the end of March
I think it is, or your end of March. And
as a result, what we've got is we've delivered a
really good option. You've got a value for money option exactly.
It's we just talked about safe, reliable, resilient two rail

(52:32):
compatible theories. Now, all we're saying is between now and
the next three or four months, we've got some time.
We've got a window if that proposal can be improved
upon and deliver more value for money and give us
a better solution than fantastic.

Speaker 10 (52:46):
But if it can't, we go with the.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Chi composition that we're so you have got a proposal
ready to go, have you?

Speaker 10 (52:52):
We have yeah, two rail compatible theories that's what we're signing.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Who are you signed with?

Speaker 10 (52:58):
Well, that's what we know. We can procure these theories,
but we don't need to do that.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Is that from staying it.

Speaker 25 (53:04):
I won't talk about who it is because that's all
commercial and we'll let that run through. But all I'm
just saying is we've got a proposal which is two
rail compatible feries exactly as we have today on the mix,
but firies that are right size, fit for purpose, good.

Speaker 10 (53:17):
Value for money.

Speaker 12 (53:18):
Okay.

Speaker 25 (53:18):
And if you want us to Winston, is that as
new Minister Rail, you've got till you know, you got
three months or so to actually see whether you can
improve further on that proposal.

Speaker 10 (53:26):
If not, that's what we're going with.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
And if you went with them, when we may arrive,
they'll be here.

Speaker 25 (53:31):
Before twenty twenty nine, which is when we need to replace.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Them, okay. And are they going to cost nine hundred
million dollars together?

Speaker 25 (53:37):
Well, we're not going to talk about any costs given
those commercial sensitivities and those are decisions.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
But this is because this is the original story that
we'd heard, which Winston then denied was true, that Nikola
had actually struck a deal for two fairies, and then
Winston decided no, he wanted the opportunity to try and
see if he could better it. That actually happened.

Speaker 25 (53:56):
Well, no, we we if you just work backwards from
a timeline point of view, right, the fairies need to
be replaced in twenty twenty nine. The procurement decision needs
to be ultimately made. Its fine to be made at
the end of March or early April, whenever it is.
And the reality is we've got a great proposal which
we've built up with the Minister of Advisory Group with
conversations with the sector. We've come back with two rail

(54:17):
compatible faeries. So that's our default leed scenario, right. And
all I've said to Winston is a new Minister of
Rail and Fairness taking on a new portfolio which I
actually want some dedicated management a of the fery procurement process,
which is why we put it into a schedule for company.
And secondly, I'm unhappy with the performance of Kiwi Rail
in general. That actually given he's got to the end

(54:38):
of that period of time to actually see whether you
can improve on that solution.

Speaker 10 (54:41):
Okay, Chris, just being pragmatic about it.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
No, I yep, it's not the story he told us,
but I'm going to go with your story because I
prefer it.

Speaker 10 (54:49):
Actually, well that is the story, just so clear.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
What are you doing for summer?

Speaker 25 (54:54):
Look hopefull you're getting into the T shirt and shorts.
And I haven't seen some of my family and friends
for a while. It's just a great chance to sort
of catch up with everybody. And I hope you get
a little boat and go fishing with Amanda and maybe
the kids and Olivia, my daughter is coming in from overseas,
which would be awesome to hang out with her for
a little bit too. So just doing what I think
everyone does, which is just refreshing, refueling. And until your listeners,

(55:17):
I hope they did exactly the same thing.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yeah, absolutely as much done as possible. Hey go well,
enjoy yourself, Merry Christmas, and we'll see you on the
other side of the year. That's Chris luxon The Prime
Minister thirteen Away from Et the Mike.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
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Speaker 2 (55:33):
It'd be here the Death by a Thousand Cuts. Nevil
works luck and is being way too soft here. He's
spending more than I do earned it, and that's not
fair to future our tax pays. The debt will sink us.
Here's an interesting thing, right, you actually can if they
wanted to, they actually could cut hard enough to get
us back into surplus. And the case of that at
the moment and is being celebrated around the world in
various publications. Not everybody's gonna love this example, but it

(55:55):
is the example of Argentina, or mate Malay with you know,
with the crazy he looks like Wolverine has basically gone
and hard and tidied up the box. He shut up
thirteen ministries, just closed them down completely, said we're not
going to spend money on that, fired about thirty thousand
public servants. Public spending has been taken down by thirty
five percent. They have now had nine months of surplus

(56:17):
in a row.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Now.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
The last time they got anywhere near even six months
of surplus was about two thousand and eight. So they've
managed to turn things around in terms of public spending
massively inflation. Remember inflation in Argentina was out the gate.
It was about fifty eight percent. They have now managed
to get it down to two point four percent. Just
in the last like that was the number that the
most recent number that came out. So if you wanted to,

(56:40):
if you really really wanted to get this country spending
within its limits, you actually could. You just have to
be brave, and I'm not seeing the bravery there, Heather
read the fairies. A proposal is not a deal, so
when you ask if a deal is done, then it
is a no, which is a fair point Winston. I mean,
these guys, it must be so frustrating to be dealing

(57:02):
with each other around the coalition table because because we
were being briefed and told yeah, there it was basically
Nicola it Hammond out a deal. Yeah, and then Winston
wanted to kill it. And then Winston's like, Nope, that's
not true, and then Lux's like, no, that is true.
So I don't know, you decide who you want to
believe on that. The latest on the fairies situation is
that it is a little bit more complicated than we thought.

(57:23):
Potentially the utter Teddy this is the one that rammed
up onto the Sandy Bank, remember ran onto the beach
that apparently needs to be retired next year because the
picct and Woarf. Regardless of what fairies we get, the
Piccton Wolf needs to be rebuilt, and they need to
start rebuilding it basically now in order for it to
be ready in twenty twenty nine, which means the utter
Teddy can't dock there anymore, so it needs to go.

(57:43):
They also this is the expert working Remember the expert
group that got together to give the government advice on
the fairies said, our decision had to be made by
July this year, a contract signed by October, and then
we would be getting the fairies in time. And if
they weren't to sign the contract in October, but we
were going to miss out on potentially good deals. So
we've possibly missed out on them. Away from mate, Heather

(58:04):
du Percy.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Ellen on them my costing Breakfast with the range Rover
the LA News to.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Heay, they love the program, but I think you're going
a bit hard on the current government. They're doing wonders
with what they were left with by that last and
capable lot. You're not going to find a lot of
argument for me on that one. It's a pity that
a number of them can't be prosecuted. They've done to
the country Cali, thanks very much. I just think that
we can see the scale of the trouble, and I
think what we need. I think there are a few
of us out there thinking you've got to be going

(58:30):
a little bit harder than this. Actually, guys, come on now,
so we need to turn this around. This is not
about winning their next election. Listen, just to change the
subject really quickly, if you want to for a second,
just see something that is absolutely incredible. Look up Chris
mcclausland on Strictly Come Dancing in the UK. This guy,
he's a comedian, he wones Strictly Come Dancing in the UK.

(58:50):
And what is amazing about this is the guy is
completely blind. Cannot see a single thing from what I understand,
used to be able to see, lost his ire sight anyway.
So can you imagine how hard it is to dance?
I mean, like, dancing is hard enough when you can see,
but when you can't see so much harder. So what
his dance partner had to do was basically teach him

(59:11):
to dance by taking his feet in her hands and
putting them where they need to be and just working
him through, bit by bit each of the moves by
moving his feet. And then he had to memorize all
of that and dance. Now, if you watch him knowing
that he's blind, you'll kind of pick up on it
because he is not the best dancer you've ever seen,
but it's also incredible how he dances when he is blind.

(59:33):
Go and have a look at it, because it's hard
to watch it and not feel absolutely cheerful afterwards, and
see like a lovely testament to what you can do
if you just work hard enough basically at it and
believe that you can.

Speaker 22 (59:44):
So.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Chris mcclausland on Strictly Come Dancing, that's your happy moment
for the day. Josh Emmett, celebrity Chef, is with us.
Next we'll get some tip. Say, I'll tell you what
I'm out of ideas for Christmas. I don't know about
you get tips from him New Stig zb.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
The Breakfast Show You Can Trust handa do for Allen
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Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Nflovy Sharp Past eight Now. It is no secret that
the busy seasons for restaurants obviously are spring and summer,
when we're feeling good and we want to sit outside
and have a cocktail and something delicious to eat. So
as we're right in the thick of it. I thought
maybe it would be a good time to check and
see how the industry is faring. For Q two, a

(01:00:28):
survey found restaurant revenue on average was down six percent,
but improved markedly to only down about one percent for
Q three as the weather started warming up. Now, recruitment
was probably the biggest issue, and chef Josh Emmett even
put out a plea for chefs overseas to come home
and he would pay their airfare or at least help
them with it. And he's with us now, Josh, good morning.

Speaker 22 (01:00:49):
Good morning. How are you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
I'm very well, Thanks mate. Listen before we get into that.
I'm always fascinated by what people like you eat. What
have you had for breakfast?

Speaker 22 (01:00:58):
Two coffees?

Speaker 15 (01:01:00):
I tend not to have. I have eggs generally. I
mean we're a family. We love the eggs, especially my
son Louis. He makes the best scrambled eggs. So I
tend to eat eggs.

Speaker 18 (01:01:10):
But I do.

Speaker 15 (01:01:11):
I'm really bad.

Speaker 22 (01:01:12):
I actually skip breakfast every now and then.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Oh is that a good thing? Because that's generally accepted
as not being a smart way to start the.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Day, is it.

Speaker 22 (01:01:21):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 15 (01:01:21):
I think you need to put something in your stomach,
especially if you're going to have coffees. I don't think
it's I don't think that's a great practice, you know,
But a protein in.

Speaker 22 (01:01:29):
The morning's always good. Salmon or checking or something like that.
And vegetables. Get some vegetables in you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
You go vegetables in the morning, do you I sometimes do.

Speaker 22 (01:01:38):
Yeah, And simple vegetables, broccoli or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
How on earth are you eating a broccoli in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
What are you doing to it?

Speaker 23 (01:01:47):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (01:01:47):
Just frying it, you know, cooking it, making it in
an olmelet or something like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Are you chopping it up and chucking it in the
pan with a bit of oil?

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Totally.

Speaker 15 (01:01:56):
Helen makes this incredible mince as well. She makes like
a Mexican mints and we have that on toast, like
beef mints with spices in it, and then a Friday
egg on top of the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Yes, okay, I've got to thank you. That was basically
entirely selfish of me. I was like, what can I
how can I change up my breakfast menu? I know,
let's ask Josh. So thanks for that, Josh, I appreciate.
I'm going to try the Mints and I'm gonna try
the Brocoli now. Listen, how did it go with putting
out the shout out to the chef services? Did any
of them take you.

Speaker 9 (01:02:21):
Up on it? Well?

Speaker 15 (01:02:23):
Yeah, I think largely the recruitment thing has sorted itself out.

Speaker 22 (01:02:29):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:02:29):
I think there's there's there's definitely more staff in the country.
I've got a couple of English Kiwi Bourne chefs that
have been in the UK have recently come back and
reached out to me, which is superb. So I've got
one of those working in my businesses right now. And yeah,
I think the immigration thing is really tough.

Speaker 22 (01:02:50):
We all know that.

Speaker 15 (01:02:51):
You know, it's a slow process, it's a costly process.
It's a bit disorganized at the moment. So I've been
working really closely with Restaurant Associated and iron Z to try.

Speaker 22 (01:03:02):
And get through some of those hurdles.

Speaker 15 (01:03:04):
But we are to say we're frustrated by that process
is the understatement of the century.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
I would say, what is frustrating you.

Speaker 22 (01:03:12):
The cost, the.

Speaker 15 (01:03:13):
Time taken with the process. You know, it can take
up to twelve weeks. We don't have twelve weeks, you know,
and that's even for simple variations. You know, you have
to be in a credits employer, which is fine, but
that should give you a pathway to a simpler process.
And it doesn't seem to want to understand that they're
underresourced as well. I mean, it's not like they're immune

(01:03:36):
to being underresourced either. So yeah, but the cost is
ridiculous and time consuming.

Speaker 22 (01:03:43):
We just we just can't have it.

Speaker 15 (01:03:45):
And in you we're going to remind ourselves that New
Zealand's at island nation and every young person who you
know finishes school pretty much wants to leave, and I
can't blame them.

Speaker 22 (01:04:00):
And that's what you do. You go out and travel
the world and then potentially come back some point.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Yeah, I mean, so it does feel like the solution
is basically to try to get our own guys back.
Given then you don't have to go through all that
paperwork and stuff. But how do we make this place
actually desirable for them?

Speaker 15 (01:04:15):
Well, New Zealand is a fantastic place to live, especially
for transient stuff. I think the answer is we do
need to allow more transient staff into the country that
can come down here and work and enjoy themselves and
potentially build a life here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
What about getting our own kids back. How do we
get them back? How do we make this place the
kind of place that they want to live in.

Speaker 13 (01:04:34):
I don't know that.

Speaker 22 (01:04:35):
I don't know that's the solution. I mean, I had no.

Speaker 15 (01:04:39):
I didn't want to come back home, you know. I
never wanted to come back home. I just sort of
ended up.

Speaker 22 (01:04:43):
Here, and I'm very happy here. You know. I had
two kids here.

Speaker 15 (01:04:47):
You know, it's an amazing place to raise the kids.

Speaker 22 (01:04:50):
But I never thought I was going to come home.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Why didn't you want to come home?

Speaker 22 (01:04:55):
I just loved I.

Speaker 15 (01:04:57):
Love living overseas. I was having a just a spect
pacular time in New York. I'd lived in London for
twelve years. I was living in for New York, between
New York and LA for four years, you know, and
one day I might head back out there, But I
don't know.

Speaker 22 (01:05:13):
It was just too much fun, you know, is that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
I mean, do we maybe just need to be realistic
about it that if you're a young person and you
want to go out and you want to experience partying
and high life and stuff like that, we just can't
compete with the New York's and the London's and the
Paris is of the world.

Speaker 22 (01:05:28):
Well, we probably are.

Speaker 15 (01:05:29):
Realistically, we probably can't know.

Speaker 22 (01:05:32):
You know, there's just so much energy and.

Speaker 15 (01:05:34):
Creativity, and you know, as kiwis, I think we need
access to that.

Speaker 22 (01:05:39):
You know. One of our sort of basic rules.

Speaker 15 (01:05:42):
Of Helen and I coming back and living in New
Zealand was that will come and live in New Zealand,
will enjoy it, but we have to leave, you know,
three or four times a year. And when you can't
leave three or four times a year to go out
and be inspired and see things you do, I feel
a bit stagnant, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Yeah, Okay, listen, I want to know how business is going,
but I need to take a break. We'll come back
and ask you that question shortly. It's Josh Emmett thirteen past.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
It be right sixteen past eight and with us is
celebrity chef Josh Emitt. Now, Josh, tell me how's business going.
Is it starting to pick up?

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
It has?

Speaker 15 (01:06:19):
Christmas definitely started late, but it has picked up, and
we're training pretty well. We've had a really good you
know what we call summer season, holiday season, Christmas season.
So you know, the last six weeks have been really.

Speaker 22 (01:06:32):
Really solid.

Speaker 15 (01:06:34):
We actually had a reasonably good August. We had a
really positive August, but September and October we're definitely down.

Speaker 22 (01:06:40):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:06:41):
We've got two businesses, Guilt and Onslow, which are both
in the city, you know, right in the heart of
the city, Shortened Street, just off Shortened Street, so you know,
you do feel it and you always thre in which
we've got on y Heki Island. You know, that's had
a long hard winter, you know, especially with a bit
of a lack of tourists. But you know, we spent
the time renovating that business and investing some money in it,

(01:07:04):
and so it's looking spectacular for summer. So we're hoping
for one of those lovely bumper summers with no cyclones.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Jeez, I hope. So for your sake, I've got a
text here from Mary saying, Josh is fab Guilt is gorgeous.
Now when you put Guilt in Central Auckland, right down there,
it's at the bottom of Shortland Street, isn't it on
the corner of O'Connell.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Isn't it in Chancery?

Speaker 22 (01:07:25):
Yeah, well not in Chancery but on the corner of
Chancery Street.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Yeah, so am I doing the right thing because everybody
talks about how that part of the world is a
little bit dead.

Speaker 15 (01:07:35):
No, we love to see it at Central City. We
opened Onslow there just up the top of the hill
and Princess Street four and a half years ago, and
you know, we just talked about it. While I love
you know, New York and London and that sort of thing,
I love the vibeance here of the city and you know,
we'll go into those areas and make our own fun

(01:07:55):
and there's plenty of people here that are still enjoying it.

Speaker 22 (01:07:59):
So yeah, we're really we're really confident about it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
I mean, I feel like probably you're in the right
part of the hospitality sector, right because your restaurants are
going to appeal to people who still have some disposable
cash despite how hard things are.

Speaker 15 (01:08:13):
Would that be about right, Yeah, totally, it's definitely. You know,
we're at the higher end and when people have got
less to spend, they spend less in every aspect of
their life. You know, even the daily coffee becomes a
bit of a luxury sometimes, you know, when it's when
it's six dollars to spend.

Speaker 22 (01:08:31):
But no, we you know, we've still got.

Speaker 15 (01:08:33):
Regulars that come, you know, four or five, six times
a week, let alone twice a month or yeah, one
hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Do they have kitchens?

Speaker 22 (01:08:44):
Josh, some of them I don't think cook.

Speaker 15 (01:08:48):
No, you know, they they and they some days they
eat really simply and fast, you know, in and out
twenty minutes, stake prits. And other days are there for
four or five hours, meetings, lunches.

Speaker 22 (01:08:58):
You know that sort of thing.

Speaker 15 (01:09:00):
Uh, you know, and and and so there is there's
definitely a segment of the population that isn't overly affected.

Speaker 22 (01:09:06):
But you know, you can see that the.

Speaker 15 (01:09:11):
The general there's a there's a there's a large part
of the population that doesn't have the disposable income. And
we we know that. I mean it's been it's been
four years we opened our restaurants at the start of COVID.
You know, all of our restaurants have been through these
three restaurants have been through COVID and survived.

Speaker 22 (01:09:29):
You know, So that's we should we should be happy
at least with that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Yeah, if you can survive that, and then this will
be absolutely fine. Now tell me, are you actually mates
with Gwyneth Paltrow. Now we've lost Josh. He's just dropped off.
He's either maybe he has actually mates with Gwyneth Paltrow decided,
I can't answer that question.

Speaker 16 (01:09:51):
It's ssitive, two sensitives too sensitive.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Yeah, it's one of those things like it's fight club.
You don't talk about it. What happened with Gwyneth Paltrow.
C f YI is Gwyneth Paltrow has a crow Josh Emmett.
Now I can understand that because I don't know if
you know what Josh Emmett looks like, but he's a
crushable kind of person. He's a good looking man. He
looks like he eats a broccoli for breakfast and maintains
his figure anyway. So she had a crush on him.
She put it on the Instagram. She said, I've got
a crush on the sky. He comes around to the US, well,

(01:10:16):
he's on holiday in the US with his family, goes
round to Gwyneth Paltrow's house to cook up a feast,
didn't you Josh twice?

Speaker 22 (01:10:25):
That was the start of the year. It was back
in April. It was the best time. You know, we
were on a bit of a holiday. Then it was
the start of the year. We were a bit exhausted
after a long summer of work. And yeah, so Gwyne's incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Are you guys mates now? Would you say, are you
guys on each other's Christmas card list?

Speaker 22 (01:10:47):
Pretty much?

Speaker 15 (01:10:48):
I would say, you know, I have regular contact whe her.
She's we love everything she does and.

Speaker 22 (01:10:54):
She's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Now, Josh, speaking of Christmas cards and stuff like that,
what are you doing for Christmas? You got any ideas
for us? Because I'm all in, I'm all out of ideas.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Cooking, Yeah, I.

Speaker 15 (01:11:05):
Have to, Well, Mum's cooking for me this year, which
I'm relieved about actually. But I love, you know, Christmas
hand we all do that. I love roast I love
roast duck, you know on Christmas Day? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
But Suber like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Don't you want to because I'm feeling like I'm feeling
like you want to get out of the oven. The
oven is hot, right, it makes the whole house hot.
Don't you want to just chuck stuff on the barbie?

Speaker 15 (01:11:30):
That's the key we thing to Helen's English. So we
do we have to have roast potatoes. We we sort
of stop at Yorkshire puddings, but we we have a
real mix mixture of a North and South sort of Christmas.
But yeah, I suppose the key wei thing is the barbecue, right,
But I'm just so out of that, out of that

(01:11:50):
segment and have been for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Do you know what I reckon? I reckon if you
just chuck pomegranate seeds on a salad, it makes it
look Christmasy and then you're you could do whatever after that.

Speaker 15 (01:11:59):
It's sort of do it sort of does, but you see,
you're in the mindset of trying to make it look
Christmas y and I'm in the mindset of I just
want to eat good well, you know, not that I
want to eat good food, but I'm like, oh, and
eat roast duck, you know, and you know, braized cabbage
and turkey, and it is heavy stuff. My favorite part
of Christmas Day is dessert, you know, three or four dessert, Pavlova, trifle.

Speaker 17 (01:12:26):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:12:26):
Mum makes an amazing Christmas cake and amazing Christmas pudding.
So it's sort of a grazing feast of sugar.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Sounds pretty traditional. Hey, Josh, listen, Merry Christmas. Thanks very
much for talking us through how things are going, and
I hope everything goes very well this summer, especially for
the oyster and over at y He that's josh Imtt,
celebrity chef. My mum makes a great Christmas cake. She
turned up with it the other day full of brandy.
She's because she's from South Africa. You know, like in
South Africa they love a brandy and coke. I just

(01:12:54):
put brandy and coke and everything. So my mom was
like brandy all over the Christmas cake. Anyway, So what
I did as I said to myself, I'm pregnant, but
if it's in the food, I don't know that it's there,
and so I get a free pass on it. So
I just gobble down that cake and I'm nervous.

Speaker 16 (01:13:09):
Sis science right, yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
One of them goes into your blood and the other
one just goes into your tummy. If it's in the food,
it works like that. Eight twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Ever Dupuzy Ellen on the my Casking Breakfast with Bailey's
Real Estate News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
There be Yeah, the bringing the kids back to New
Zealand family will be the one. The thing that always
brings people back to New Zealand that can't be replaced.
You probably bang on, actually you have. And also I
think having your kids, like when you have your kids,
you want your parents around, you want your family around,
you want the cousins around. So you come back for
that in great place to raise kids. Ah, now listen,
I'm counsels speaking about them a little bit. Big day
for Wellington City Council. So thoughts and prayers to Wellington

(01:13:47):
today because when Wellington City Council gets together, it's a
special day, isn't it. Because special special day to day
on the seventeenth of December because it is the last
Wellington City Council meeting of the year, which means it
is their absolutely last opportunity to pass the long term budget. Now,
the long term budget is the reason and their inability
to pass it is the reason that the Crown Observer

(01:14:08):
got called in in the first place, and Tory said,
it'll be fine, we'll do it before the summer break.
We'll get it past. So this is their last opportunity.
Quite how are they going to do it? I don't know,
because they had a six hour meeting in November and
I don't know if you remember, but counselors came out
of that six hour meeting and went, I don't know
what just happened. I think we cut the budget, but
I'm not sure. Something seem to we go up. I

(01:14:29):
don't really know what's in the budget or not. So
if we're dealing with this kind of thing, I don't
know how they're going to vote the thing through. But
maybe maybe there's a majority of them who just don't
care anyway. So thoughts and prayers, good luck with that.
We'll see how that goes by the end of the day.
News is next, and then Rod little news took ZBI.

Speaker 18 (01:14:46):
Does you and me under two?

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Causey little Christmas here with you?

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Me us Bold opinions. Heather duple Sea Allen on the
Mike Hosking break List. With the range Rover villa designed
to intrigue and use togs, there'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Twenty three away from nine. The Andrews situation, as in
Prince Andrew with the Chinese spires obviously blowing up. In
the UK, here's Dan Javis, the UK Security Minister, speaking
in the House.

Speaker 19 (01:15:15):
The breadth of the threats we face from foreign states
are pernicious and complex, and the work of our intelligence
agencies is unrivaled in mitigating them as ever, they will
be pursuing those who wish to do us harm, including
those from foreign states. We support them now and always

(01:15:36):
in these efforts, and they will know that at any
point when the UK's national security is at risk, we
will not hesitate to use every tool at our disposal
to keep our country safe.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Rod a little out of the UK with us now,
Morning Rod.

Speaker 22 (01:16:00):
In, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
I'm very well, thanks mate. Listen, do we know this
guy actually got anything from Andrew?

Speaker 24 (01:16:06):
I wouldn't have thought though. I mean, this is a problem,
isn't it. If you cozy up to someone who's thick
as a plank, it's easy to gain their confidence, but
rather more difficult to gain anything of consequence from them.
It is true that Andrew has been an intermediary for
British trade for the last thirty years. What is less

(01:16:31):
clear is how successful that work, which is supposedly done
on our behalf, has been. Basically, what it meant is
that he's gone out to various desert sax wraps in
Arabia and played golf a lot. He seems to have
been a bit more connected with this guy, I think,

(01:16:54):
possibly because he saw him as any port in a storm,
but here was someone he could actually do business is
and improve his image by increasing trade to Great Britain
from China. Not having the slightest suspicion that this man
might not be entirely what he said he was, you
know that the whole problem there is the guy is

(01:17:15):
sick as mint.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Yeah, it does seem that way keeps getting himself in trouble.
I mean, look, okay, so the obvious thing that's going
to happen to him is that he and Sarah are
not going to be able to do the church walking Standringham.
And it appears that that is happening already. But should
Charles not just.

Speaker 24 (01:17:29):
He's he's not allowed a stocking this year, and that stopping.
He is not allowed a stocking. He won't be allowed
to play Charates with Prince Charles, with King Charles. You know, no, sorry,
go on, but I mean, yeah, it was a fair and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
You make the point, rod right. The point that you're
making is that all of these punishments are just bits
and pieces here and there are slaps on the hand.
I mean, does Charles not need to just cut him
out altogether, get him out of Royal Lodge and get
him out of the ice.

Speaker 24 (01:18:01):
I think, I think that is I think what you've
suggested is inevitable. I just don't think he can cling on.
The Epstein stuff hasn't gone away, and it won't go away.
The Chinese party business is a grave embarrassment and also actually,
from the other point of view, a problem between us

(01:18:24):
and China, because we do have to deal with China,
and we have to What we have to deal with
them at the same time is known that they are
much as you do, guys. I mean, you guys know
this better than we do. We need to deal with
them in a way which is productive for both of us,
but which also keeps them at arm's lengths. And you

(01:18:45):
know that is a difficult line to tread, and it's
not something you would ever entrust to a meetthead like
Prince Andrew. So I think he's I think he's gone
basically as as a as a meaningful player as a
member of the royal family. Nobody wants him, particularly not
his brother.

Speaker 22 (01:19:04):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Right, Hey, how's things going with the EU? It looks
like it's getting a bit harry.

Speaker 24 (01:19:09):
With the what sorry I missed out, that's sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
The EU.

Speaker 24 (01:19:14):
With the EU, well, it's going to be a problem.
There is no doubt whatsoever that we need to improve
our relationship with the European edion. But it's also there's
not much doubt that the bad relationship was at least
sixty percent, I would say, a consequence of the EU

(01:19:36):
being very hostile once we've left the EU in twenty sixteen.
It's also true that we haven't made the best of
our opportunities in the world beyond the EU. You know,
we haven't really reached out to you guys in Australia
in the way that we should apar from on defense.

(01:20:00):
You know, we really haven't. So there is a case
for improving our relationship with the EU if, however, and
this is I think it's a red line in the
red line in the sun. Do we have red lines
in the sound anyway? This is a line in the
sound If it involves signing up to the European Court
of Justice, No, that will provoke fury. And yet it

(01:20:22):
seems to be the way in which Sakir star War
is going.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Hey Rod, it is good to talk to you, mate.
I really appreciate you look after yourself. And there's Rod Little,
UK correspondent, Oh yeah, here to keep an eye on
Canada at last. The government may be disintegrating. Oh Dearnes, jeez,
I'll tell you what. There will be a Christmas present.
I don't know why, but you know how, sometimes there
are people you come across them. You don't even have
to come across them, ir l in real life. You

(01:20:48):
just have to come across them on a thedo and
you go, oh, you are irritating, aren't you? And that
is Justin Trudeau to me, irritates the hell out of me.
I think it's as I think it's a sissy girl voice.
I think I sound like more of a man than
Justin Trudeau does. And that's weird, isn't it. Anyway, So
Justin Trudeau irritates the hell out of me, and so

(01:21:10):
as a result, I'm not altogether unhappy to see that
things are falling apart from him for him, because I
quite like him to just get out of my life,
because I stumble across them occasionally on websites like the BBC.
So what's happened is that Canada's finance minister has quit
now she says, well, that's a big deal. I mean,
you think about it, sort of the equivalent being Nikola Willis,
imagine I Nikola Willis was like, right, I'm quitting. I've

(01:21:30):
had absolute guts full of Chris Luxon. Been fighting with him.
That's what's going on. I said. She's been disagreeing with
Justin Trudeau on how to respond to Trump's threat of tariff's,
which is a reasonably significant thing for Canada. Obviously, she
also said it cuts both ways. He told her last
week he didn't want her in the job anymore. So
they're doing that at each other. Apparently the two have

(01:21:51):
also been fighting about a policy that would have delivered
about or I think, let's say about three hundred bucks
maybe to every othergible Canadian a check of about three
hundred bucks. I've been having a fight about that as well.
Now this is not good for Justin Trudeau because the
Housing minister also announced he would be quitting eventually. Well,
he's going to see the term out and then he's
not going to seek reelection because he wants to spend

(01:22:13):
time with his family. Anybody who wants to spend time
with their family is lying. There's always another reason, probably
justin Trudeau. So anyway, he is hoping it hastens the
end of his really irritating political career. For my own
personal so it's entirely selfish. Sixteen away from known the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by
News Talks, that'd be Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Get a load of this. By the way, this will
make you have fomo. Bitcoin has broken more records that
had a high in the last twenty four hours, briefly
passing one hundred and six US dollars one hundred and
six hot on one hundred and six thousand US dollars
and then fell back slightly to one hundred and five thousand. Anyway,
might be driven by the fact that Donald Trump said
late last week that he's considering doing like a stockpiling

(01:22:56):
of bitcoin similar to the Country Strategic Oil Reserve, and
he does the fanboys that the bitcoin fanboys love the
Trump so good. It's gone at fifty percent in value
since he won the election. But anyway, this is not
the end of it. Apparently bitcoin is going to hit
they reckon by the end of this year one hundred
and twenty thousand US dollars and maybe even one hundred
and fifty thousand US dollars by midnext year. So if

(01:23:18):
you haven't invested, speaking for myself, probably thinking miss that boat,
haven't I. So I said earlier in the program, I
wanted to tell you what's going on with opioids, given
that you know, we're seeing a bit of an uptick
in the opioid use here in New Zealand. There appear
to be some positive signs, potentially that the opioid crisis
in the US is actually burning itself out.

Speaker 18 (01:23:40):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
I don't know if you've consumed any of the content
about this, like Dope Sick, which was made into a film,
the books about it and stuff. There's heaps of stuff
out there, heaps of news articles and stuff. You can
get yourself across how bad it is if you haven't
been across it. But what's happening at the moment is
that they've seen a really sudden and quite traumatic drop
off in the number of overdose deaths. So if you

(01:24:02):
look at the graphs, it's going up, going up, going up.
It's August last year and then whoop just comes down.
And this is across all of the different kinds of
opioids that these kids get their hands on, and adults
get their hands on, and it's not just in one
place in the States here in their pockets, it's across
all of the states, all of them. Since August have
seen this massive drop off has come off about a
sixth in the last year, and no one can explain

(01:24:23):
why it is. There is no dramatic increase in prescriptions
of anti addiction drugs that could explain it. There is
no increase in addiction treatment that's being accessed or available
to people, so people don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:24:34):
What it is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
What they think it could be is if there has
been an increase in one thing, it has been the
ability and the incidents of officials actually intercepting these drugs.
So it may be that basically and just getting a
lot of people out there, a lot of the officials
who are actually stopping the supply of the drugs. That
could be the thing. Could also potentially be that COVID
is washing through and we're returning to pre COVID levels again,

(01:24:58):
or and this is grim. Another possibility is that it's
basically burned through the most vulnerable in the population, So basically,
the people most likely to get addicted to opioids have
got addicted to opioids and have died, leaving everybody else behind.
And everybody else has watched it happen and gone, nah, no,
that's not for me. That looks like a pretty rough time.

(01:25:18):
I think I might give it a miss. And that
is as grim as it sounds, right, has actually happened
before in the past. We saw this happen with heroin
in the nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties. Whole bunch of
people got addicted to it and we thought, oh, this
is the end of civilization. Look at look at look
at all these people going weird on heroin. But it
was just vulnerable people. They did it. They they goodbye

(01:25:38):
to them. I'm trying to find a nice way to say.
Then they carked it and then everybody else was watching it,
and everybody else went I think I might just give
the Heroin a miss. That might be explaining what's going on,
But whatever it is, thank God, because that was horrific.
Nine Away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Heather Duplessy Allen on the My Costing break List with
a Vida Retirement Communities News togs Head b.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Heather, how can you say that you've missed the boat
with bitcoin and then say it's predicted to go up
fifty percent in the next six months. Fair question, because
in order to get into bitcoin right now, entry levels
really high. So you want one of those coins, you've
got to have one hundred and five thousand New Zealand
American dollars. Now that's a lot to lose, right, So

(01:26:20):
now you're punting on it going up fifty percent, but
you're going to lose a whole lot of money off
a dozen whereas once upon a time there's only five
thousand dollars or something like that. So do you know
what I mean?

Speaker 16 (01:26:29):
Like, I'm not gonna yeah, but you don't have to
start with a whole coin. You can just have a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Can you just have a bit of the coin? How
small can you bit be?

Speaker 22 (01:26:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 16 (01:26:38):
But isn't that why it's called bitcoin?

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
You you can have as much as you want. Don't
take financial advice from me. I bought sky TV shares
and then they went down and they've never gone back up.
So I'm terrible, very bad, very very bad advice. So
what I would say is don't buy bitcoin, in which case,
do the opposite. Sixteen away from.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Nine trending now the chemist Warehouse, the home of big
brand vitamins.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Can't even tell the time it sticks away from nine.
Now listen, here's something cool for you, White Lotus. Okay,
get excited if you're you're a fan, because hot off
the trailer, priest, we've got the tease of you for
season three this morning. It shows that season three will
be as rumors headed based at a result in Thailand.
Welcome to the White Lords in Thailand.

Speaker 7 (01:27:21):
Cut.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
I'm on an exchange program. I'm trying to feel like
something is going to come out of.

Speaker 10 (01:27:29):
The stress management meditation.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Yeah, you need this.

Speaker 10 (01:27:34):
Everyone runs from pain. The poets pleasure, but they get
there only to find.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
More pain.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Some style malariz a pal.

Speaker 18 (01:27:47):
I'm gonna have to drink myself to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Not really bad feeling.

Speaker 18 (01:27:56):
I almost die today. They got the room comped, don't
we they?

Speaker 10 (01:28:00):
That was cool?

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Yeah, you did a great chart.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
How good February sixteen. Put that in the diary. You're
going to watch it on neon. That's where it's going
to be, SkyTV, SkyTV, just saying.

Speaker 16 (01:28:11):
Do you love it the White Loaders?

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Yes, I love it, don't you?

Speaker 22 (01:28:14):
Well?

Speaker 16 (01:28:14):
I've watched two seasons of it now and I still
haven't decided, which leads me to believe that perhaps I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
No, I think you don't, because I think I think
you pretty much know from the start that you love it.
I mean, season one was awesome?

Speaker 9 (01:28:26):
Did you not have that?

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
That's not the overriding feeling.

Speaker 16 (01:28:29):
I think that annoys me is that all the people
are so horrible. Yeah, there's nobody to like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
No, yeah, that's the point of it.

Speaker 16 (01:28:35):
You spoke, but you sort you watch that then.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Because you sort of like them, but you're sort of, well,
don't you like that one who ran around, you know,
the one with the big lips in season two who
said are trying to murder me?

Speaker 9 (01:28:45):
That one?

Speaker 16 (01:28:46):
The one who dunk?

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Yeah, spoilers. No, I didn't say anything, though, did I?
You'd have to know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 16 (01:28:53):
So I'm thinking, I'm thinking she's not going to come
back for this season?

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Oh, Glen? And then he did it? Didn't he water Dick? Anyway?
So don't worry about it. Just to scrub that from
your memory. It's the kind of show where you're supposed
to be conflicted about whether you like them or not, obviously,
and and you're supposed to like them in the end,
aren't you well a little bit like I love hating them. Anyway,
I'm looking forward to it because, let me tell you something,
I'm going to be so deep in maternity leave at

(01:29:16):
that stage. It's going to be my way back to
normal life through a bunch of really weird people. Glenn,
we're missing hearing from you. Can you get it to?
Try to take a breath.

Speaker 16 (01:29:32):
Wasn't that just me on before?

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
I just took a breath? And what did he contribute?
He contributed annoyous people. Yeah, Angie, I don't know you
were a missing him. Hey see you tomorrow, have a
lovely day. News talks, it'd be Chrismas, because that Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
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