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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For politics Wednesday, We've got Mark Mitchell and Jinny Anderson.
Hello you too. We're going to be poor for ages,
aren't we, Mitch.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, I mean, look, when when you have a government,
a laboring queen's government that we're not. We're dealing with
the hangover and the countries the hangover. But the good
news is we know how to deal with that, so
I do.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm not sure you do the amount.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Well, you guys put this situation that you guys mistake.
You guys put us in the situation if.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
The shoe fits and it does, well, I think that
what what what New Zealanders are saying after this year
is that Austereity watch is cutting back, is driving us
deeper into.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You were talking about they are spending more. And don't
even start, Mitch, because I'm gonna come after you too.
But spending more than granted is what austereoy you're talking about?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You? But what is she?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
But she spent it on things like text cuts? So
four landlords so that's still l.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You see, if you look in Wellington, we've seen eleven
percent of the jobs gone in Wellington that hits our
local bars, our restaurants, our local businesses and that slows
down the economy. And when you had all of these
really big infrastructure projects that got canned, the workers took
off to Australia and it's hard to restart. So those
things have slowed the wheels of the economy down.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You honestly have a lower texture. You don't think that
Adrian or having a crack at us with the ocr
has had more of an impact.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, it has an impact in terms of making a
little bit less than those mortgage repayments, but there's a
whole bunch of keywis who are renting who haven't seen that,
and that means lease money is they lost.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Their jobs and stuff. J I mean, he literally said
he was going to do it to engineer a recession,
and he has three. He's been very successful at that mark.
Now why I'm coming at you is because yeah, sure
labor did this, but you guys aren't really fixing it,
are you, Because you're still spending like like drunken sailors.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, we're not spending like drunk and sailors, but we
didn't here an awful economy with massive bondifires that we
have to host down. Look, listen, listen to Ginny just
then we dodged a bullet with a change of government.
They would have us beakrupt, us, have us lock veness sailer.
We can't afford the theories that blew out to four
billion dollars, they're going to be five billions. We can't.
We can't afford as a country the other night, we
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can't afford a country that you you increase the bureaucracy
by fourteen thousand. We cannot afford that. It was it
was insane. So we've had to make some changes. Nikola
is doing that. She is doing an outstanding job of that.
She's taking a very measure approach. We are having we
are we are, we are. We are having to write
size and make the cuts that's appropriate for us as
a country, and that is sustainable and it puts us
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in a solid position to grow. And that's exactly what
she's doing.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It doesn't put us in a solid position to grow,
or to say, it puts us out another couple of years.
Even with the week she's cutting the books and cutting
out a different way of counting. Yeah, we're still not
going to be in the and the and the pink
until in the good space, until twenty twenty nine. It's
pushed us out a whole another year, even with their
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dodgy counting see any zero growth.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
You know what, we're driving towards, making sure that we're
sustained with A driving towards. Let's yeah, but you drove
us into a ditch at one hundred balls. Now we
couldn't afford it.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
We got THEA and you're driving tooth.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Out of children. I'll tell you that. I'm sitting here
going I don't like either of you. Want to put
both of you in time out on this particular subject.
How's it going to the gang Tangyuly? Are they behaving themselves?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah? The gang tonguees have been outstanding. I just want
to give a shout out to our police officers. They
have done an outstanding job for us this year. The
whole organization, whether you're sworn or non sworn, I want
to thank them. They have definitely, without a doubt, responded
to the new government's priorities. You've seen outstanding policing of
gang tongues. You're not seeing gangs taking over provincial towns anymore.
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You're seeing police more presence on the streets. Three Assurance
the outstanding they're doing, engaging with our retail sector in
our communities. Really proud of the work they did.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
They come through your electric joinny at all because I
think there was some talk they might have had.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yes, that the tongue he was held in, and then
that the tongue he was over on the.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Other coast, and they behave themselves.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, I've had no. I've got an electric office and
and also Tony so both around that area and we've
had no reports.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Are nice, it makes welcome.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You're much. You're much safe for Jenny, which is great news,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, maybe maybe people and just good Chris.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Bush and Chris Bishop is now providing great, great leadership
for the electrics.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Was here, the tongue was.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He's everywhere, He's visible. People see them.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Police being so weird about going on that trip to China.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, I'm not sure if they've been weird about it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
They come, they're being weird about it. They're like, nah,
it wasn't work, It wasn't organized through work. Now they
took it and you'll leave. They paid for it themselves now.
And Jenny organized Jessica at work organized the Projessica wasn't
doing it in work hours and then they see does
an email to tell us, yeah, that it was a
good trip. I had nothing to do with work, Come.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
On, yeah, but no. But look, let is really fear
is that every single sworn or non sworn member that
went on that trip, they were on leave, and everyone
takes leave. They paid for a trip because they paid
for it themselves.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But it was for cultural competency. Is that well, there's
not a holiday that's cultural competency.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Leave match, but it's still work related.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, all that I wanted to be satisfied about was
that protocols were followed, and the information I had was
that protocols were followed. I'm not gonna there is no
way that you're going to catch me, especially coming to Christmas,
criticizing our police officers because they want to be more
culturally competent, they want to be more sensitive to the
here's the thing, right, but they do outstandings.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Which why didn't they just say, look, it was privately
funded in it and it was done on their own time,
but we're cool with it, We really like it. We're
like that they'd taken this initiative with their own days
off and kind of own it. Rather than trying to
pretend that it had nothing to do well.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I think they well, certainly I did, and I think
they did as well. Listen, at the end of the day,
there are whenever you've got groups of police officers traveling overseas,
whether they're on duty or off duty, or on league
or not, there's always protocols to be followed, regardless of
what country they're going to. I wanted to be satisfied
that those protocols were followed. They were. They went over there.
When you look at their itinery, they were sightseeing, they
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went to Tenneman Square and everything else that other keys
when they traveled to China when they want to go
and do some sight seeing, do the same thing. But
they followed the protocols that the hard working, non swollen
sworn stuff they deserve to go away and have a
bit of a holiday and enjoy themselves.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Ginny, did you see the luxe and pignette?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
No, but I was listening to you talking about it,
But I did not see.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
We flip out about it. So that we just balance
the leader between flipping out about stuff to do with
justin there and stuff to do with luxem Well, if.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It's I guess if at the private party. Yeah, you
could flip out about it. Who's taking photos of it
and putting it on the internet. It probably wasn't a
great idea.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
But I'm not saying it's okay to have his head
on a guillotine, and then it's not okay.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I shouldn't really be you shouldn't be doing that to anyone.
I mean we had instances where MP's faces were put
on toilet seats and then urinated on. So anything where
you're doing something and you know, hurting a person in
terms of the way a big scandal.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I remember that being it wasn't that a big scandal,
Mitch when people were wearing on the toilet seats?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, to be honest with you, I haven't heard about
the mignata or the ween on the toilet seats. I've
got no idea.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Seeing as we're discussing weird scandals today, have you caught
up yet on the judge and her doctor boyfriend gate
crashing the New Zealand First Party?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yes? I I think that. I think the Attorney General,
Judith Collins has come out very clearly and condemned that,
and it's some very clear expectations around her response.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, this turns out this guy's are made of the
Labor Party, Jinny, I think you need to cut. You
need to cut.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
What do they they do at the party? What was
They just crash it?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Obviously drank par too much red wine, but it'll be
good bottles. That would be good bottles of red wine.
But it does the same thing to you. You still
end up like like a Oligan, don't you. And then
they crashed the New Zealand First Party and they yelled
at Winnipe allegedly in casey is stellar and so on.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Okay, that's not that's not nice. It's not ideal at all.
I wouldn't recommend doing that.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And then maybe maybe allegedly also made racist comments which
which they deny hashtag behind. I totally agree with you
on that, Jinny. Listen, how about the councils. Okay, you
mates with any of these councils who are unhappy at
the government, and if so, why are they unhappy?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Well?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
The hat set of Hood Campbell Berry on the radio yesterday,
so well, the problem with canceling the whole three Waters
is that it's left them with about eighty to ninety
percent of their budgets go on all their order infrastructure,
so there's not money left to do other stuff. But
you know, the funny thing is right we've had sam
and come out saying, you know, can't have flesh stuff.
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All these councils got to get back to basics.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
We'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
We opened a beautiful pool in the Hot Valley last
week nine to nine new poll.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Tell you what.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Chris Bishop was the pretty flash gym and the pool
doing a bomb, saying this is awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I love it. It's going to be everywhere. He loves it.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
But you know, but then you're saying, like, none of
the stuff this is going to be ken. You're always
just going to have roads and binds and that's it.
No libraries, no pools, nothing.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I reckon a pool, don't you think.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, I hope the bush did a good bomb, but
the reality of siblings absolutely right. In most Keys agrees
we want councilors focused on the core role in delivering
on you know, to rate pass what they expect. I
just want to say in terms of councils, I've had
eight local states frommugency around the country this year. I
want to acknowledge the me as the councilors, the chief executives,
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the controllers, our first responders, everyone that's done an outstandings.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Of you are always nice people, You're kind of anybody
you you smack, talk.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Run.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I'd love to do account for the year on the
use of the word outstanding. I think Mark is really
great at owning the word.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Love that I love that country, and I think I
think a great little thinking outstanding that he's just I personally,
I personally think that we are a great little country,
and I think that we've got We've had some tough times. Either.
I want to say, because it's the last show, I
want to say, I'm your Christmas to you. You have
(10:28):
been outstanding this year. Merry Christmas to you. To bears
into agg and I know that he's going to be
very close to catching his first wave and standing up,
which is y.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Do you know Mark actually gave when when my son
was probably about a year old, Mark gave him a surfboard.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Oh that's exciting, very good, that's proper Safard's.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I reckon it must be like an eight footer.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
No, look, it's a long board for him, without a doubt,
but it's nice and stayed. Will be a really good
bought to learn on Ginny. I want to say Merry
Christmas to you. Thank you, Mark got I got your book.
It's a self help book called Not All My Thoughts
Are Correct. You can read it over the summer. And
I want to say I want to say Mary Christmas
to everyone that joins us on a Wednesday morning. That
has been a tough year for most of us. But
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regardless of when you arrived in New Zealand or where
you came from, we're all key. We we have the
most beautiful country in the world. And there abroader days ahead.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Oh that's lovely, Mark, And I've got you a gift
to I've got you a year's membership for hot yogat
the classes there an hour and a half inch and
yoga and a sauna, and I reckon we can bond
during that.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
That'll be all I think.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We would pay for those Poto guys. Merry Christmas to
the pair of you. Have a lovely time, Andy both
to serve a lovely break That's politics Wednesday, Make mature
and Jenny Anderson.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
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