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January 19, 2025 5 mins

As he prepares for his inauguration, Donald Trump can't make up his mind on the ruling to ban Chinese app TikTok. 

The soon-to-be President has said he will sign an executive order to stall the of the app after it was removed from Apple and Google stores. 

US Correspondent Richard Arnold discusses what Trump will do when he is sworn in in less than 24 hours, and the bumpy start for the first hostages release in the Middle East ceasefire. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Richard Arnold our US correspondents, Three Israeli hostages have been
released from her Maas back into Israel. The latest with
the Middle East cease fire. Richard is with us this morning,
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Good morning Ryan. Three out of how many? Yeah, three
out of a lot. A bumpy start for the first
hurdle being passed now in this fragile effort between Israel
and Hamas. Three hostages, as you say, arriving in Israel.
Three Israeli women, Rome gonn Emily Damari and doren Steinbreckers.
So that's three of nearly one hundred hostages still unaccounted

(00:32):
for taken by Hamas in their body attacks some fifteen
months back. Their release came after another last minute delay
this day, during which the Israelis opened fire once again
and Gars are killing at least twenty six people. Scores
of Palestinian prisoners are being released by Israel in this
opening phase of the process as well. When Hamas failed
to put out the names of the three hostages being freed,

(00:56):
that brought on this delay, a small right wing faction
of the Israeli cabinet, so called Jewish Power faction, then
quit the cabinet. The hostages were put into cars in
Gaza by armed Palestinians wearing masks so they couldn't be
identified by anyone, and in the midst of what was
a pretty chaotic crowd. So that's step one. The first
phase is supposed to extend over six weeks, and then
their follows Phase two, which will be even harder as

(01:18):
they look to the ongoing roles of Israeli troops and
the administration over Gaza and it's devastation. Obviously, still food
and supplied trucks are starting to move in in significant
numbers again, but once more, there is a long way
to go with it all. President Biden, on his final
day in office, was able to announce a short time
ago that there had been an historic development.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
He said, today the guns in Gaza have gone sailent.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
He says, this is perhaps the toughest foreign policy effort
he's ever been engaged in, says Biden.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Today's sees fire in Gaza and the release of hostages
is a result of a principle and effective policy that
we presided over for months, and we got it with
a wider war in the Middle East than many predicted.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
He also says there are other positive opportunities in the
region with the weakening of Hesbolara and Lebanon and some
other changes that we've seen in the process of this.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
We've reached the point today because of the pressure Israel
built on a mast backed by the United States, the
side regime next door and series gone. Iran is in
the weakest position in decades after the US military helped
defend Israel from Iranian missiles and supported Israel's military response
inside Iran.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
So this has been catastrophic despite words of supposed optimism.
What around twelve hundred Israelis killed in that initial attack
by Hamas and forty seven thousand Palestinians killed. An incredible
political division ongoing. There is so much uncertainty head and
I've got to say comfests issues of the region yet
to be decided.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Certainly is Richard. We have been talking this morning about
tech took It's gone dark in the US overnight, but
Trump will bring it back to life. Right.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, we'll see what happens. But only a few hours
after they put up the warning notices saying that TikTok
had gone offstream, Trump said he will sign an executive
order now to stall the ban on the app, the
site used here by around one hundred and seventy million people.
Pretty stoning numbers, aren't they. The TikTok site has been

(03:22):
removed also as an app from Apple and Google stores.
But as I say, just a short time after this
happened midnight last night here Trump said on his social
media the companies should not lettok stay dark in this way,
and that he will issue the order tomorrow giving TikTok
an extra ninety days while they work out how to
deal with what Polly's here see as the dangers posed

(03:42):
by ByteDance the Chinese owners. So add this to Donald
Trump's day, one, promises, I guess instead it's boss. The
boss of TikTok, Charles, who was Singapore rean, is appealing
directly to Trump and will attend his inauguration tomorrow. He
says this, I want to thank President Trump for his
commitment to work with those well. In his first term,

(04:04):
Trump was calling for TikTok to be closed, but he
found it pretty effective in his last campaign, so he
switched views on all of this. However, other lawmakers have
not so. Speaker Mike Johnson today.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's not the platform that members of Congress were concerned about.
It's the Chinese Communist Party and their manipulation of the algorithms.
They have been flooding the minds of American children with
terrible messages glorifying violence and anti Semitism and even suicide
and eating disorders, I mean crazy kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well, the Biden teams say they are not the ones
who initiated the anti TikTok campaign, but many who make
money through this site are infuriated by what is going on.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Is the difference between a video posted on TikTok that
generated about two thousand dollars in revenue and looking on
Instagram and that same video I made three dollars from it.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Elon Musk says he would be willing to buy TikTok,
So what owning Twitter or x and TikTok as well?
President Biden has spoken of his worries about the growth
of Amiga Zoo millionaire oligarchy and attending the Trump inauguration
tomorrow will be among many others. Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos,
Marke Zuckerberg, and the whole host of Silicon Valley tech bros.

(05:12):
Or grasping for power.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Fascinating stuff isn't it and Trump has just posted a
message on true social I'll tell you exactly what he
has said. It's quite interesting what he's proposing and the
timing around it as well. Richard, thanks you time. Richard
Arnold our us correspondent on News Talk SEBB.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
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