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January 23, 2025 4 mins

Shane Jones says Kiwis need to get over themselves as he looks to open mining on Department of Conservation land. 

The Prime Minister yesterday defended his intention to grow the mining sector. 

Resources Minister Shane Jones told Ryan Bridge if we want to boost the economy, we need to utilise conservation land. 

He says the DOC estate is large and suitable for mining. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's go now to mining, because the Prime Minister mentioned
that in his address yesterday too shared the importance of
minerals in New Zealand and our bid for growth, this
drive for growth, and it's an endorsement that Luxon says
that won't be to everyone's liking. Shane Jones is the
Resources minister. Minister.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good morning, Yeah, greedings fus.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
We just heard there from Marcus about the oil and
gas band. You guys were in government when that happened,
won't you.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Worst decision I was ever associated with was sprung on
us by Sinda Adern. Fortunately it's in the dim pass
and I can guarantee if it is covered up in
her unwanted new book, I'll be the first to criticize it.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
If it's not factual, no doubt you'll be doing a
deep dive on that. Let's talk about the opportunities for mining.
We were now about the fast track. We've got the
list of fast tracks. I've been looking this morning at
your list of minerals, your critical minerals. Are you going
to announce this year new areas that you'll open up
for mining?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Thirty fist of January, orbit Yhi, Where I'm making a
major speech related to the mining industry and related economic matters.
I'll remind everyone there's an additional two point five billion
dollars worth of export revenue, probably another two thy five
hundred jobs just on the projects associated with the fast

(01:24):
track alone. But we're going to do a big dive
and say to Kiwis, we have an inordinately large dock estate,
much of which is overrun with weasels and rats and
stoakes and noxious weeds. Much of that dock estate is
suitable for quirying and mining, and we need to get

(01:46):
over ourselves because if we want the surplus income and
the revenue, we should identify which areas are really precious
to the birthright of Kiwis and which areas can be
used for economic purposes, including mining.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Are you talking about stewardshipland that land that's on the
conservation estate but hasn't yet been categorized.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Stuardship land is not dockland. Stewardship land is land that
should and will be made available for economic purposes. Sadly,
it's been weaponized and captured by these green fusspots who
could testrifize every utann, every example of mining.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Just so weirdly, so, you're talking about opening up stewardship land,
which is nine percent of our land area, to mining,
as well as dockland as well as conservation estate.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Stewardship dockland is already used in some cases for mining.
That's already effect. Studship land can be made available not
only for mining but for other economic purposes. But a
lot of the fast track proposals are not on dockland.
For example, there's Santana project is on private land on

(02:57):
the Bendigo station. These are all projects that will generate
not only jobs, but highly sought after economic revenue. You look,
the day before yesterday, I was with seven or eight
international analysts coming out of London Toronto and they said
to me, and they've been down here to sign off
a major transaction and extension of capital for existing projects.

(03:20):
They said to me, if the fast track is implemented
in the vein that the legislation was passed, you will
drown an avalanche of North American capital. There is no
other regime that they know of in either the states
of the States of Australia or the States of the
US that will have the capacity to allocate with this

(03:42):
efficiency statued reconsense.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
All right, minister, thanks for your time. This morning was
ALSOS Minister Shane Jones saying it's all on for young
and old thirty first of January. He'll be making announcement
in May. He and it sounds like dock land, stewardship land,
doesn't really matter what it's called, it's all.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
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