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February 16, 2025 2 mins

Europe is rattled after confirmation they will be left out of Russia-Ukraine peace talks. 

French President Emmanuel Macron has called an emergency summit in response that will take place tomorrow. 

And US Vice President JD Vance has made a blistering speech in Munich, telling European leaders their biggest threat was not China or Russia, but came "from within." 

Poland's TVP world chief political correspondent Aaron Dahmen talks to Mike Hosking. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Europe looks in full melt down after jd Vance rolls
into town, told them the issue was not the Chinese
or the Russians, but the locals who were sick of
not being heard. And oh, by the way, Ukraine can
be at the peace talks, but Europe can't. Emmanuel Macaren
at this point apoplectic cause an emergency summit that's teed
up for tomorrow. Poland's TVP World Chief political correspondent Aaron
Darmond's with us are in very good morning to you.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good morning mate, you were in the room.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Did it feel as dramatic as it felt from the
side of the world.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Let me tell you a pen could drop in that
room as Jodie Vance gave that address. I mean European leaders,
it would be fair to say they didn't expect an
easy ride, but boy, oh boy, I think they were
shocked by the fact that he didn't focus on Ukraine,
he didn't mention defense spending, all the things that the
Munich Security Conference has been renowned for. Instead, he obviously

(00:48):
lambastad the continent's democracies, and given the tone and tenor
of what he told leaders in Munich, well we're in
Paris now because they're convening an emergency sum It's fair
to say Europe feels like.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's been slapped in the face.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
And do they have and what are they going to
achieve at this emergency some of the next twenty four hours,
apart from a lot of hot air and talk.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, I think the difference here with this meeting, and
have covered many a political summit, is that these politicians
they genuinely don't know what they're going to do next.
They have to figure something out. I mean President Emanuel
mccahey was the one to now convene this summit in Paris.
He wanted to play kingmaker when it comes to Ukraine.
I was here in Paris and December when he got
Trump and Zelenski in the same room a house, and

(01:34):
that is a real opportunity to test his political muscle.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Has diplomatic muscle, even as his own government falls apart
around him. But forget that, I mean America, they've torn
up the rue books, they're phoned in Potin, they're now
talking about meetings directly with Russia in Saudi Arabia. So
this meeting they will need to come up with some
ideas and we'll get some answers well tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
We will stay in touch. Aaron appreciator very much, Aaron Darmond,
who these days is Poland's TVP World Chief Political respond
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