Today on Politics Wednesday, Ginny Andersen and Mark Mitchell joined Mike Hosking to delve into the latest drama surrounding the Government’s school lunch programme, the Treaty Principles Bill submissions, and the upcoming Infrastructure Investment Summit.
Representatives from some of the world's largest banks and investment firms are arriving in Auckland for the summit.
Delegates will be formally welcomed by Ngāti Whātua Orākei and Christopher Luxon this afternoon.
Cabinet Ministers will then front a raft of sessions over the next two days.
Minister Mark Mitchell told Mike Hosking there's some announcements coming tomorrow around infrastructure, aimed at attracting much-needed foreign capital.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for politics Wednesday, and Ginny Anderson's with us
(00:02):
along with Mark Mitchell. Good morning to you.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning, Mike, morning Jenny.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Good morning Ginny. Did you Chris Stapleton or not?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Did I like Chris Staples? Then I didn't go because
I was out of town. But the did you go?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I did go? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Did you vomit?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I didn't, Okay, because there was some vomiting going on,
and the behavior of people at concerts in this country
leaves me cold.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Yes, I look, I would have to. Maybe I'm just
getting on a bit, that could be it, but I
would tend to agree with you. The area I was
in was pretty good, but a little bit over. You know,
they were paying a few bit for the tickets.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You paid a lot of money for tickets. And here's
the other thing, because the last concert was the Morgan
Wollen concert, and the people were so drunk that they
literally passed out and missed the concert. And I'm thinking
to myself, you pay three hundred bucks to go stand
there that you drink yourself silly, and you miss it.
What's the point?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, look, I tend to agree with you, Mike. I thought,
but that music was amazing. His voice was brilliant. The
musicians were really on and I think it's his wife
who plays with them. I'm not sure it is his wife.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I think it is his wife. So I thought that
was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
My now, my assessment of it is he's if you
go back to Luke Colmes, he's an officionado, like he's
a true artist. Luke Colmes is very commercial, very successful,
and God bless him for that. But if you want
real talent, I mean top short, top drawer talent, Stableton Jamn.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, Well it's the blues influence that gets me. It's
that real old school ability to play and tell a
good story for a song, and he nails it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
What do you recommend?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I was, well, I was at the Rural Games North
rural people, so I love Christophen but that was it
was great to be down there and support them because
we've got outstanding sports people in the rule sector that sports.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
What games do you play rurally?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
They've got They've got a couple of good fun events
like the dry Cow pet.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Throw that's good fun.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And they tossed the gun boot, which is cool. Did
you do that? But no, I didn't, I didn't. I
didn't well, I wanted to do the gun boot toss
because we're not shipping then entire happy We used to
do that with it was an annual event.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You're the Minister of sport, for God's sake, why can't
the Minister of sport right up and give me give
me a gun boat.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
To try to participate where I can? But she had
to get away to another event. But anyway, the young
lady that took out the Top Award is a world champion.
You know, I don't know exactly what the title is,
but what she does is she gets up trees, prunes.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh, one of those. They're fantastic to scamper up the
way they do do they the mettle things on their legs.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
She is amazing. She is amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
The one where they go side side side.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, they use a lot of technical gear and things
like that as well, and you know, all sorts of
contortionous moves as they sort of have to do. But
but it was just nice to she got recognized. She
took out the top Award and you know, not normally
in this that it wouldn't recognized, so as great.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Did you want to do that as well yourself, Mark
or were you a bit busy that.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I don't know if they had any ropes strong enough
to hold me.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Jenny, Now, did you have you sat on that? Am
I correct and saying I read and featured on the
program earlier? There's the piece in the spinoff by a
woman who had sat claiming to have for the whole
eighty hours of of submissions on the Treaty Principles bill.
And have you sat through the whole eighty hours? Have
you been on that committee and done that?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
No? Not the whole eighty hour.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's no how many hours you reckon because what I
got out of her article, which I thought was very instructive,
was essentially what we've learnt out of this is you've
got a group of people who think it's great and
a group of people who don't. Many of them are
very articulate, very eloquent, very studied and educated, but they
still disagree with each other. Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I would agree? Yeah, I would agree. I don't think
we achieved a heck of a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I think there were some great submissions that made really
clear points, but I don't think it really got us
any further together or closer as a nation.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But see what and that brings me to you, Mark,
because it's your party that's stopping Seamore going ahead with us.
All these argued all along is we don't have a
definition for the treaty in law, and we should and
what this process has proved is that is true. Therefore,
why wouldn't we want to move on with this and
do something productive with it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, I just think that I really like Selei committee
processes because it does give you know, it leats people
engage with our democracy and they have a voice, and
I think that's great. We've basically we've said yep, we
just think that's a blunt tool and there's still work
to be done.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
We just think for one hundred and fifty years and
there's the outworking of one hundred and fifty years of
disagreements in front of it select committee and no one agrees,
even the most expert of experts does not agree. Therefore,
we need to sharpen it up and shape it up
and do something, don't we.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, And I think Paul Goldsmith is motivated to do
work on that. But we just, like you said, and
we just felt this was a very blunt tool in
terms of the way to achieve that so there will
be work going on, it just won't be through the
Treaties Principle bill.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
It's all right.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
The point the point would be what's the point of
eighty hours not going any further? And I think that's
the problem. That was a waste of resources and time.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, we can also say it about it. My broader
point is that's the that's all select committees, isn't it,
Because you're always going to find people who hate on
something and people who like something, and then at.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Least but the law changes, something comes out of the
end of it. Is the only one I've said on
either for all of that time, nothing happens, stops in
the water.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well I think that. I mean Labour took a similar
bill through themselves when they're in Parliament that got killed
off as well. So but I think that.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
You name it, Mark, it was a treaty.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It was a Treaty Principals bill that Labor brought into
the House as well.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Through the process making it up.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Can check your history negotiations.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You don't even know that. You don't even know that
treaty negotiated.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
When on treaty.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
In two thousand and five, Mark, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, Mark, now hot. When you're asking your staff member
to go Google, I could hear yes, So.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Well that's what staff at for Jenny Google listeners. The
listeners are all saying, two thousand and five. Here we go, Jenny,
principles of the tricky by taking you Bill June eight,
two thousand and five in Parliament Select Committee for every year?
Is that the one I didn't support?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
It didn't support. No, it's you're right.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
I was right.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Labor did not support it.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Journey, nineteen eighty nine, fourth Labor government.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I was in third. Four.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well it doesn't make it doesn't mean they weren't doing it, Jenny,
nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
The history two thousand and five. You don't know the history. Mark,
they didn't support it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
What's the matter with your staff?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Mark?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Who you got there? For goodness sake? Tell them to
do something so good it can? I congratulate you, by
the way, Jinny, just quickly on the promotion that you
got over the week on Friday. So that's good, thank you.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I'm pleased to keep police as well, though.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So you should, so you should.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Mark. You might have got off, but let me just finish.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
No, I'm really pleased to be part of that that
that new economic team, and I think it's going to
be really good work that New Zealanders do need done.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
As part of your jobs, you're going to pay people
to do nothing again like you did last time.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
No, I won't be doing that, but I'd like to
pay them more. I think he.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Would pay them more to do nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And I think they need higher scale jobs as well.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
So we need to not have cases like Callahan and
the Heart here they've laid off over a hundred scientists
with no plan of where to put them, and they're
all going to the Netherlands or Australia, the ones I've
spoken to. So I would say that's a silly idea
and we need to not do things like that.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Give me sorry, Mark, No, I was just going to say,
I hope she's better than a roll with police. When
I think about police under Labor, you had Ginny Anderson,
Chrys Sipkins, Poto Williams and Meaghan Woods. It was like
a bad episode of Kick.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
To be fair.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I think I think is the best of those four.
I think Jenny is the best of those four. Lords.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Look, public safety is not even in the top three
priorities that was announced by Chris Sipkins. I mean, it's
just a it's a joke, but look, the reality, the
serious side of it is that jobs are critically important.
Were coming through a really tough period in turn the economy,
and you know, but the reality of it is, might
we're right were the pre election budget update under labor
was projected to be exactly where we are. We just
(08:09):
got a really hard We're all about growth, we're about
the economy, we're about the return of jobs.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Do you think give me your take the National Party
take on this lunch is thing, because I'm just desperate
to move it on to something vastly more important, But
it's we seem to be bogged down in what's turning
out to be a political mind field for you people.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Look, yeah, and David is working flat out on that
to make sure. Look from what I understand that the
actual delivery of the lunches is as good, but obviously
there's been some issues with it and David's working flat
out on that.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And one of those companies is that liquidated now, as looks.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Like that does make any difference though, Jinny, to be fair,
if the company is in liquidation and the delivery keeps
going as sad as it is with the company, what's
it matter? Kids still get.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
But the point, the point, the point I would make
is all the schools I visited who ran their own program,
and albeit at cost of more, they would employ two
or three local people or local small businesses to provide
those lunches, and so that keep the local economy going.
It was better food.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It gave jobs, of course, but that's what happens. If
you keep spending money you don't have, which is what
you were doing, employing people doing stuff, then that's always
going to be the case. But we can't afford that.
We have no mother.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
There was one hundred and thirty million dollars war.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Under labor, people get paid more that the economy grows
and then.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But not when it's funded journey from debt. You can't.
I can go borrow one hundred thousand dollars from the
bank and give it to you. You can go and
spread it all over the Lower Hut today and you go,
look I did, But I mean I've still got to
pay the debt back.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They don't it might they don't understand their solution.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Their solution to growing economy is to open it up
foreign investment, And we can't just continue cutting things.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
For an investment.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
But we need good foreign investment here.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You I'm not saying we don't. I'm just saying we've
got to be cautious about it.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But your but your answer is Jenny, And whether it's
you're Jantin, is you just you guys just don't get it.
You come into the house and you say we'll just
appropriate more money, We'll just that's taxpayers.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well you just say, well, you just said it now
with the sandwiches.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You know, I said foreign investment wasn't the answer to
all of our economic problems. We've got a downward spiral
of cutting, people losing their jobs, a lower tax take,
and the economy keeps shrinking. We've got to break that
downward cycle.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Foreign investment. Foreign investment is an important part of the
entire puzzle in terms of and the leavers that we
have to pull us a government to get us back
on track to be in a rock star economy.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Is the foreign buyer's house band being announced tomorrow or
Friday the lifting of that.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Look, I don't think there's any announcement around that tomorrow.
At the summer, there will be an announcement around some
infrastructure projects.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
When's the foreign when's the foreign house band lifted?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Then?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Is that not part of it?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where
we are on the work with that, but I know
that Erica Stanford's you know, working flat out on those settings.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But then announcement as coming though I'm assuming I thought
it would have been tied up with the thing tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
There's no there's there might be an immigration announcement tomorrow.
I'm not sure. I don't think it relates to that,
but there's definitely in some announcements tomorrowy and infrastructure projects
that we really want to engage and find some good
foreign kept coming.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Nice to see you guys. We'll catch up next week,
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It's time for politics Wednesday, and Ginny Anderson's with us
(00:02):
along with Mark Mitchell. Good morning to you.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning, Mike, morning Jenny.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Good morning Ginny. Did you Chris Stapleton or not?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Did I like Chris Staples? Then I didn't go because
I was out of town. But the did you go?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I did go? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Did you vomit?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I didn't, Okay, because there was some vomiting going on,
and the behavior of people at concerts in this country
leaves me cold.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Yes, I look, I would have to. Maybe I'm just
getting on a bit, that could be it, but I
would tend to agree with you. The area I was
in was pretty good, but a little bit over. You know,
they were paying a few bit for the tickets.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You paid a lot of money for tickets. And here's
the other thing, because the last concert was the Morgan
Wollen concert, and the people were so drunk that they
literally passed out and missed the concert. And I'm thinking
to myself, you pay three hundred bucks to go stand
there that you drink yourself silly, and you miss it.
What's the point?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, look, I tend to agree with you, Mike. I thought,
but that music was amazing. His voice was brilliant. The
musicians were really on and I think it's his wife
who plays with them. I'm not sure it is his wife.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I think it is his wife. So I thought that
was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
My now, my assessment of it is he's if you
go back to Luke Colmes, he's an officionado, like he's
a true artist. Luke Colmes is very commercial, very successful,
and God bless him for that. But if you want
real talent, I mean top short, top drawer talent, Stableton Jamn.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, Well it's the blues influence that gets me. It's
that real old school ability to play and tell a
good story for a song, and he nails it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
What do you recommend?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I was, well, I was at the Rural Games North
rural people, so I love Christophen but that was it
was great to be down there and support them because
we've got outstanding sports people in the rule sector that sports.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
What games do you play rurally?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
They've got They've got a couple of good fun events
like the dry Cow pet.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Throw that's good fun.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And they tossed the gun boot, which is cool. Did
you do that? But no, I didn't, I didn't. I
didn't well, I wanted to do the gun boot toss
because we're not shipping then entire happy We used to
do that with it was an annual event.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You're the Minister of sport, for God's sake, why can't
the Minister of sport right up and give me give
me a gun boat.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
To try to participate where I can? But she had
to get away to another event. But anyway, the young
lady that took out the Top Award is a world champion.
You know, I don't know exactly what the title is,
but what she does is she gets up trees, prunes.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh, one of those. They're fantastic to scamper up the
way they do do they the mettle things on their legs.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
She is amazing. She is amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
The one where they go side side side.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, they use a lot of technical gear and things
like that as well, and you know, all sorts of
contortionous moves as they sort of have to do. But
but it was just nice to she got recognized. She
took out the top Award and you know, not normally
in this that it wouldn't recognized, so as great.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Did you want to do that as well yourself, Mark
or were you a bit busy that.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I don't know if they had any ropes strong enough
to hold me.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Jenny, Now, did you have you sat on that? Am
I correct and saying I read and featured on the
program earlier? There's the piece in the spinoff by a
woman who had sat claiming to have for the whole
eighty hours of of submissions on the Treaty Principles bill.
And have you sat through the whole eighty hours? Have
you been on that committee and done that?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
No? Not the whole eighty hour.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's no how many hours you reckon because what I
got out of her article, which I thought was very instructive,
was essentially what we've learnt out of this is you've
got a group of people who think it's great and
a group of people who don't. Many of them are
very articulate, very eloquent, very studied and educated, but they
still disagree with each other. Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I would agree? Yeah, I would agree. I don't think
we achieved a heck of a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I think there were some great submissions that made really
clear points, but I don't think it really got us
any further together or closer as a nation.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But see what and that brings me to you, Mark,
because it's your party that's stopping Seamore going ahead with us.
All these argued all along is we don't have a
definition for the treaty in law, and we should and
what this process has proved is that is true. Therefore,
why wouldn't we want to move on with this and
do something productive with it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, I just think that I really like Selei committee
processes because it does give you know, it leats people
engage with our democracy and they have a voice, and
I think that's great. We've basically we've said yep, we
just think that's a blunt tool and there's still work
to be done.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
We just think for one hundred and fifty years and
there's the outworking of one hundred and fifty years of
disagreements in front of it select committee and no one agrees,
even the most expert of experts does not agree. Therefore,
we need to sharpen it up and shape it up
and do something, don't we.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, And I think Paul Goldsmith is motivated to do
work on that. But we just, like you said, and
we just felt this was a very blunt tool in
terms of the way to achieve that so there will
be work going on, it just won't be through the
Treaties Principle bill.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
It's all right.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
The point the point would be what's the point of
eighty hours not going any further? And I think that's
the problem. That was a waste of resources and time.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, we can also say it about it. My broader
point is that's the that's all select committees, isn't it,
Because you're always going to find people who hate on
something and people who like something, and then at.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Least but the law changes, something comes out of the
end of it. Is the only one I've said on
either for all of that time, nothing happens, stops in
the water.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well I think that. I mean Labour took a similar
bill through themselves when they're in Parliament that got killed
off as well. So but I think that.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
You name it, Mark, it was a treaty.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It was a Treaty Principals bill that Labor brought into
the House as well.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Through the process making it up.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Can check your history negotiations.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You don't even know that. You don't even know that
treaty negotiated.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
When on treaty.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
In two thousand and five, Mark, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, Mark, now hot. When you're asking your staff member
to go Google, I could hear yes, So.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Well that's what staff at for Jenny Google listeners. The
listeners are all saying, two thousand and five. Here we go, Jenny,
principles of the tricky by taking you Bill June eight,
two thousand and five in Parliament Select Committee for every year?
Is that the one I didn't support?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
It didn't support. No, it's you're right.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
I was right.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Labor did not support it.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Journey, nineteen eighty nine, fourth Labor government.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I was in third. Four.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well it doesn't make it doesn't mean they weren't doing it, Jenny,
nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
The history two thousand and five. You don't know the history. Mark,
they didn't support it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
What's the matter with your staff?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Mark?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Who you got there? For goodness sake? Tell them to
do something so good it can? I congratulate you, by
the way, Jinny, just quickly on the promotion that you
got over the week on Friday. So that's good, thank you.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I'm pleased to keep police as well, though.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So you should, so you should.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Mark. You might have got off, but let me just finish.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
No, I'm really pleased to be part of that that
that new economic team, and I think it's going to
be really good work that New Zealanders do need done.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
As part of your jobs, you're going to pay people
to do nothing again like you did last time.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
No, I won't be doing that, but I'd like to
pay them more. I think he.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Would pay them more to do nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And I think they need higher scale jobs as well.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
So we need to not have cases like Callahan and
the Heart here they've laid off over a hundred scientists
with no plan of where to put them, and they're
all going to the Netherlands or Australia, the ones I've
spoken to. So I would say that's a silly idea
and we need to not do things like that.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Give me sorry, Mark, No, I was just going to say,
I hope she's better than a roll with police. When
I think about police under Labor, you had Ginny Anderson,
Chrys Sipkins, Poto Williams and Meaghan Woods. It was like
a bad episode of Kick.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
To be fair.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I think I think is the best of those four.
I think Jenny is the best of those four. Lords.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Look, public safety is not even in the top three
priorities that was announced by Chris Sipkins. I mean, it's
just a it's a joke, but look, the reality, the
serious side of it is that jobs are critically important.
Were coming through a really tough period in turn the economy,
and you know, but the reality of it is, might
we're right were the pre election budget update under labor
was projected to be exactly where we are. We just
(08:09):
got a really hard We're all about growth, we're about
the economy, we're about the return of jobs.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Do you think give me your take the National Party
take on this lunch is thing, because I'm just desperate
to move it on to something vastly more important, But
it's we seem to be bogged down in what's turning
out to be a political mind field for you people.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Look, yeah, and David is working flat out on that
to make sure. Look from what I understand that the
actual delivery of the lunches is as good, but obviously
there's been some issues with it and David's working flat
out on that.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And one of those companies is that liquidated now, as looks.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Like that does make any difference though, Jinny, to be fair,
if the company is in liquidation and the delivery keeps
going as sad as it is with the company, what's
it matter? Kids still get.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
But the point, the point, the point I would make
is all the schools I visited who ran their own program,
and albeit at cost of more, they would employ two
or three local people or local small businesses to provide
those lunches, and so that keep the local economy going.
It was better food.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It gave jobs, of course, but that's what happens. If
you keep spending money you don't have, which is what
you were doing, employing people doing stuff, then that's always
going to be the case. But we can't afford that.
We have no mother.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
There was one hundred and thirty million dollars war.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Under labor, people get paid more that the economy grows
and then.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But not when it's funded journey from debt. You can't.
I can go borrow one hundred thousand dollars from the
bank and give it to you. You can go and
spread it all over the Lower Hut today and you go,
look I did, But I mean I've still got to
pay the debt back.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They don't it might they don't understand their solution.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Their solution to growing economy is to open it up
foreign investment, And we can't just continue cutting things.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
For an investment.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
But we need good foreign investment here.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You I'm not saying we don't. I'm just saying we've
got to be cautious about it.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But your but your answer is Jenny, And whether it's
you're Jantin, is you just you guys just don't get it.
You come into the house and you say we'll just
appropriate more money, We'll just that's taxpayers.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well you just say, well, you just said it now
with the sandwiches.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You know, I said foreign investment wasn't the answer to
all of our economic problems. We've got a downward spiral
of cutting, people losing their jobs, a lower tax take,
and the economy keeps shrinking. We've got to break that
downward cycle.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Foreign investment. Foreign investment is an important part of the
entire puzzle in terms of and the leavers that we
have to pull us a government to get us back
on track to be in a rock star economy.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Is the foreign buyer's house band being announced tomorrow or
Friday the lifting of that.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Look, I don't think there's any announcement around that tomorrow.
At the summer, there will be an announcement around some
infrastructure projects.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
When's the foreign when's the foreign house band lifted?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Then?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Is that not part of it?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where
we are on the work with that, but I know
that Erica Stanford's you know, working flat out on those settings.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But then announcement as coming though I'm assuming I thought
it would have been tied up with the thing tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
There's no there's there might be an immigration announcement tomorrow.
I'm not sure. I don't think it relates to that,
but there's definitely in some announcements tomorrowy and infrastructure projects
that we really want to engage and find some good
foreign kept coming.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Nice to see you guys. We'll catch up next week,
Ginny Anders and Mark Mitchelli. For more from the Mic
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