It’s been about 14 years since Kiwi Steve Williams last caddied for the great Tiger Woods.
But to coincide with the 2025 Masters and the 20th anniversary of Woods’ iconic shot on the 16th hole at Augusta – Williams is releasing a new book.
‘Together We Roared: Alongside Tiger for His Epic Twelve-Year, Thirteen-Majors Run’ is filled with behind the scenes moments, delivering the definitive account of one of the most successful golfer-caddie partnerships in the sport’s history.
Williams told Mike Hosking he found the process of writing the book to be like a memory – a great way to rewind and relive the journey of the time he spent caring for Woods.
He says that during the partnership, there was little time to celebrate Woods’ successes, as every moment was focused on the next championship.
“That pursuit of trying to chase down Jack [Nicklaus]’s record of 18 major championships sort of became an obsession,” he said.
“The book actually has, has been a real good thing for me – to be able to actually sit down and take a look at what he achieved.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It has been fourteen years since Steve Williams last caddied
for somebody called Tiger Woods, but to coincide with the
Masters and the twentieth anniversary of Woods now infamous Chip
that famous day, the sixteenth and AUGUSTA, two thousand and five. Anyway,
Williams has produced a book looking back and giving us
insight into the greatest player ever in one of sport's
great collaborations. Together, We Roared is by Evan Priest and
(00:20):
Steve Williams and Steve Williams is will us.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Very good morning, Mike Aida, this one good, good good.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Was this an easy sell for you to do? To
tell the story?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, Evan and I did a podcast series over covid,
and we got so much interest over the podcast series
that we decided that, due to the interest from publishers,
that we'd put a book together. So and we got
we were granted an extra few months that you'd normally
not get when you write a book, so we were
able to really put some thought into it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So really pleased with it.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And was it cathartic for you?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I found it like a memory, a great way to
rewind and sort of relive the journey of time that
I spent catting for Tiger.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That was really good.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
What do you do these days?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
What do I do these days?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You know what you think when you're retired, you think, wow,
But you know, you keep yourself busy. I've had my
own foundation, which I've actually closed up at this completion
the last year, so that's been keeping me busy. I
live on a bit of a lifestyle block, and you know,
I do a lot of golf days and our things
and that, and travel overseas, and you know, you keep
yourself busy. Still of speedway, but you're content. Content, Yeah, yeah, No,
(01:34):
I don't miss the canning and all the traveling that
went along with that.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
When you were in the moment, if you like, when
it was all you and Tiger, were you cognizant of
what was unfolding around you or was it just it
was another day at the office.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
No, Because every Tiger, after every tournament, whether you know
whether he won or lost, it was always on to
the next one. And that pursuit of trying to chase
down Jack's record of eighteen major championships sort of became
an obsession and always looking forward to the next tournament,
the next major what course is it at.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
So the book actually.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Has been a real good thing for me to be
able to actually sit down and take a look at
what he actually achieved, because during the time that he
was doing it, there was no you know, there's very
little celebrating. It was just this relentless goal of trying
to reach you know, Jack had eighteen majors. He wanted
to get to nineteen or twenty and that became such
a obsession and sort of, yeah, it was a really
(02:33):
clear goal to work towards it, and there wasn't a
lot of time to reflect on what he was achieving
along the way, not just in the major championships, but
all the other toments that he was playing.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And what do you with the benefit of hindsight, what
do you will? Wait, do you place on what role
you played in his success?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Look, you can't. It's one of those jobs.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
It's like being a co drive and a rallygate, you know,
like the guy he's swinging the clubs and that. But
you know you've got to be you've got to be
very in you know, working in harmony with a guy
in that and understand a guy in that, and you know,
like a pro golfer knows if he has a caddy
that they don't have that harmony with and they don't
have any success where they go on to get another
caddy in that so, when you spend any length of
(03:13):
time with guy and you have success, you know, you
know you're adding some value to it.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
But how does that work in that sense? If you
know you can be replaced, do you? You can't then
be a suck up? Can you?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And look, what makes a good caddy is somebody when
something when it's really on the line, the tornament's on
the line and that and the guy says to you,
what do you think? And you've got to be very
decisive and give a very positive answer so that gives
him positivity to hit a very good shot or part
whatever it might be. And not be scared to be wrong.
And that's something I've sort of prided myself and that
you know, I'm not scared to change or overall what
(03:49):
a guy says, or find a way to influence what
I think is right as opposed to what he thinks
is right and make that decision and it'll be the
right decision, and ultimately that can lead to you know,
between winning a tourment not winning.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It, and what are you basing those decisions on. You're
basing them on maths, you know he hits the seven
x number of yards, or you're basing it on his
mood or the day or the vibe or feel.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Feel absolutely just complete feel. I've took so many notes
when I was working for all these different players that
I've caddy for, and I'd base those notes on exactly
what you just said. Under this, under these circumstances, the
mood that he's in today, the way that he's planned,
how did he react, what did he do when he
was in a good mood, bad mood, and all that.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I wrote so many notes.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So basically, after you know, probably eighteen to eighteen months
to two years, I could assess at the start of
the day and know what was going to happen just
based on his mood. That so I wrote an enormous
amount of notes. And when even the guy that I
co wrote the book work came to my house in
that and so I was looking over these notes, that's
sort of dumbfounded. It's just amazed that, like, you know
(04:53):
that you would keep such lengthy notes, but basically as
a caddy. If you can picture yourself standing in that
guy shoes, So what is he looking at today, how
is he feeling today, what is his mood today and
that and just translate your reactions to.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
What that's But that's your skill, though, because to do
that with Malta, I mean, that's not just Tiger. You
did this with a whole bunch of different people. To
do that with a bunch of it, that's a skill.
That's the talent.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Look, it's something that's probably unique. And to the best
of my eyes, I was probably the only one that's
compiled such an extensive a lot of notes on people.
But you know, behavior patterns, you know, and all strides
of life are very continuous, and I was able to,
like I said, you know, I would know based on
(05:38):
the fact that what mood Tiger was and how he
was walking and what his eye contact with me was,
what sort of day you were going to have.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Unreal Now, listen, how annoying did it become for you
that I'm assuming that every man and his dog wanted
to know what Tiger was Like?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Oh, look, I mean you just after you know, six
months to the job, it's like, you know, you just
realized that, hey, this is going to be part of it.
And you know, the Tiger Mania thing got really roll
and you know, it became a bit of a circus
between you know, two thousand and two thousand and five
when he was at the height of his playing and
you know, he's a once in a lifetime athlete and
obviously the best player to ever played golf and that
(06:17):
and a very special, very special individual and that. So
you know, it was all part and parcel of it.
And yeah, after you get accustomed to it and everything,
it just was part of the daily.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
The answer to the next question is a bit of everything,
I'm assuming, but the mental versus the physical, because physically
you couldn't beat him. He was a guy who transformed
the game in terms of his discipline physically, and yet
you need to be exceptional mentally to do it all,
don't you.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, one hundred percent like Tiger.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Obviously, when he started getting into his prime and everyone
looked at Tiger and how he's gone about his boss A,
he was training more than.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Most people thought it was doable with golf.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
You know, golf has a lot to do with thibility
in that his mental capacity, his strength, his mental strength,
the way that he was so focused, so determined, and
the way that he worked, he just brought a whole
new dimension to the game. Not only did he make
the game popular from a fan point of view, but
he changed the directions of what professional players became athletes.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Like you know, you could look.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
At the professional golf to it and sort of say
fifty percent of the players and fifty percent of the athletes.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, now you could.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Look at them and say, probably ninety something percent of
these guys are athletes. Now they train and do all
the different things that would go along with other sports,
not just golf.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Is he likable, genuinely likable?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, I mean he's a fierce competitor, and anybody that
has as much success continually as Tiger is going to
have some haters. That's just it's not just you know,
not because of his personality, not because of the way he is,
because he's so successful, and a lot of people in
all sports don't like the guy that's at the top
because he wins too regularly. And you know, if you
(07:59):
go to a tournament and you know Tiger's playing in
the talk went in as height and as powers, you know,
you realistically knew that you were going to have to
play outstanding to beat this guy.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The fallout between you two, how do you view it
these days?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Look, when you sign up to be a caddy for
a boy, you don't actually sign up. There's no sort
of contract, or you work for somebody and you know
it's never going to last forever.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
And if you.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Spend in our world, in a caddies world, if you
can spend five years or greater working for one play,
you consider that to be a long stint. So you know,
I was twelve thirteen years into Tiger and look, to
be honest that you know when I look back, you
know he asked me when I went basically what happens?
I went to caddy for Adam Scott and he asked
(08:41):
me not to do it. It was doing when he was injured,
and I should have listened to My wife said no, Steve,
you should. You know, if he says you don't want
to do it, he doesn't want you to do it,
you shouldn't do it. But in a nutshell, I didn't.
But look, you know it's when things went a bit
HAYWHI with Tiger, and that it never quite was the
same when I came back. So, but nothing lasts forever
when you're and yeah it was good.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And is there a desire to to I don't know,
make up, catch up put it right? Yeah, well I
would say anything.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I caught up Tiger not so long ago. I was
in Los Angeles and caught up with it and that
and had a good old chat in that. So you know,
the time heels everything, it's no big deal.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Really, So what do you make of what's happened to
him now? Because I worry about him in the sense
that he was his swing like you look at say Couples,
Freddy Couples or any ll swing, that's the that's the
most beautiful swing you've ever seen in your life. And
I look at Tigers, which is a manufactured swing, but
a discipline manufactured swing that was going to cause you
(09:37):
some sort of physical difficulty in time. And look where
it's I mean, the guy's seemingly fighting pain every day.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, it's interesting, Mike.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
The very first guy that I ever cared for Peter Thompson,
the famous Australian guy, and I had great thrill every
year at the Open Championship. Peter would attend, being a
former Open champion, and he would always meet me after
one of the practice rounds and just disc us things
and talk about different things that and he said to me, Steve,
you've got to tell this guy that's he will not
(10:06):
be able to keep swinging like that for the rest
of his life. He said, he's putting way too much
pressure on his body. And of course he arguably he
was right.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Look, I mean he has had, you know, an extraordinary
stretch of surgeries and physical things that have slowed things
down on that. But you know, everybody's asking now the
fact that is at the end of the road for
Tiger Woods, in my opinion, would say, no, it's not
because until such time where he can't where he can't
(10:39):
get himself to train and get himself prepared for a
golf turnt where he could stand on the first tee
and physically walk four days with no hesitation and be
able to practice and get himself in shape to win
a talent.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I don't think it's quite gone yet.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Amazing, hopefully amazing. I didn't realize he'd given you the
four gt. That car. I mean to come for tournament
and just go. The car is yours. And for people
who don't know what a GT is. It's it's it's
hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of car. It's it's
it's a collector's piece of car, and you've still got that.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I take it absolutely.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's a great collector's piece because it's the only one
of that type of New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So it's the driver you started driving.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Not very often, not enough, but you know, the lower
the miles a bit of the more that it's worth.
So now I take it out every now and again.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's amazing. And all the memorabilia that came with it,
it's it's do you enjoy the down memory lane aspect
of it or not?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
So, not so long ago, Mike, I actually completed my
man cave, and so when I go into there and
I take someone into that man cave that's not been
in there before and look at all the stuff that it's,
it's quite a special room and it brings back memory
lane one hundred percent. And like I said, when I
was working for Tiger, we were so focused and driven
(11:57):
on the goals that he had set a lot of
time to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Or go down memory lane in that.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But you know, as the years go go by, and
the book certainly has helped do that, because the book
has been a great road down memory lane for me
to be able to really live so many moments. And
you know, I researched quite a bit. I took a
lot of notes while I was catting, which I fortunately
still had those notes, and then I did a bit
of research as well just to bring up and that
was going down memory lane. So yeah, no, the man
(12:23):
Cave is certainly I like that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now. Always good to see you appreciate it absolutely, Mike.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Good stuff, Steve Williams, and the book is together. We
roared by Evan Priest and Steve Williams.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
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It has been fourteen years since Steve Williams last caddied
for somebody called Tiger Woods, but to coincide with the
Masters and the twentieth anniversary of Woods now infamous Chip
that famous day, the sixteenth and AUGUSTA, two thousand and five. Anyway,
Williams has produced a book looking back and giving us
insight into the greatest player ever in one of sport's
great collaborations. Together, We Roared is by Evan Priest and
(00:20):
Steve Williams and Steve Williams is will us.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Very good morning, Mike Aida, this one good, good good.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Was this an easy sell for you to do? To
tell the story?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, Evan and I did a podcast series over covid,
and we got so much interest over the podcast series
that we decided that, due to the interest from publishers,
that we'd put a book together. So and we got
we were granted an extra few months that you'd normally
not get when you write a book, so we were
able to really put some thought into it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So really pleased with it.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And was it cathartic for you?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I found it like a memory, a great way to
rewind and sort of relive the journey of time that
I spent catting for Tiger.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That was really good.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
What do you do these days?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
What do I do these days?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You know what you think when you're retired, you think, wow,
But you know, you keep yourself busy. I've had my
own foundation, which I've actually closed up at this completion
the last year, so that's been keeping me busy. I
live on a bit of a lifestyle block, and you know,
I do a lot of golf days and our things
and that, and travel overseas, and you know, you keep
yourself busy. Still of speedway, but you're content. Content, Yeah, yeah, No,
(01:34):
I don't miss the canning and all the traveling that
went along with that.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
When you were in the moment, if you like, when
it was all you and Tiger, were you cognizant of
what was unfolding around you or was it just it
was another day at the office.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
No, Because every Tiger, after every tournament, whether you know
whether he won or lost, it was always on to
the next one. And that pursuit of trying to chase
down Jack's record of eighteen major championships sort of became
an obsession and always looking forward to the next tournament,
the next major what course is it at.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
So the book actually.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Has been a real good thing for me to be
able to actually sit down and take a look at
what he actually achieved, because during the time that he
was doing it, there was no you know, there's very
little celebrating. It was just this relentless goal of trying
to reach you know, Jack had eighteen majors. He wanted
to get to nineteen or twenty and that became such
a obsession and sort of, yeah, it was a really
(02:33):
clear goal to work towards it, and there wasn't a
lot of time to reflect on what he was achieving
along the way, not just in the major championships, but
all the other toments that he was playing.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And what do you with the benefit of hindsight, what
do you will? Wait, do you place on what role
you played in his success?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Look, you can't. It's one of those jobs.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
It's like being a co drive and a rallygate, you know,
like the guy he's swinging the clubs and that. But
you know you've got to be you've got to be
very in you know, working in harmony with a guy
in that and understand a guy in that, and you know,
like a pro golfer knows if he has a caddy
that they don't have that harmony with and they don't
have any success where they go on to get another
caddy in that so, when you spend any length of
(03:13):
time with guy and you have success, you know, you
know you're adding some value to it.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
But how does that work in that sense? If you
know you can be replaced, do you? You can't then
be a suck up? Can you?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And look, what makes a good caddy is somebody when
something when it's really on the line, the tornament's on
the line and that and the guy says to you,
what do you think? And you've got to be very
decisive and give a very positive answer so that gives
him positivity to hit a very good shot or part
whatever it might be. And not be scared to be wrong.
And that's something I've sort of prided myself and that
you know, I'm not scared to change or overall what
(03:49):
a guy says, or find a way to influence what
I think is right as opposed to what he thinks
is right and make that decision and it'll be the
right decision, and ultimately that can lead to you know,
between winning a tourment not winning.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It, and what are you basing those decisions on. You're
basing them on maths, you know he hits the seven
x number of yards, or you're basing it on his
mood or the day or the vibe or feel.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Feel absolutely just complete feel. I've took so many notes
when I was working for all these different players that
I've caddy for, and I'd base those notes on exactly
what you just said. Under this, under these circumstances, the
mood that he's in today, the way that he's planned,
how did he react, what did he do when he
was in a good mood, bad mood, and all that.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I wrote so many notes.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So basically, after you know, probably eighteen to eighteen months
to two years, I could assess at the start of
the day and know what was going to happen just
based on his mood. That so I wrote an enormous
amount of notes. And when even the guy that I
co wrote the book work came to my house in
that and so I was looking over these notes, that's
sort of dumbfounded. It's just amazed that, like, you know
(04:53):
that you would keep such lengthy notes, but basically as
a caddy. If you can picture yourself standing in that
guy shoes, So what is he looking at today, how
is he feeling today, what is his mood today and
that and just translate your reactions to.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
What that's But that's your skill, though, because to do
that with Malta, I mean, that's not just Tiger. You
did this with a whole bunch of different people. To
do that with a bunch of it, that's a skill.
That's the talent.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Look, it's something that's probably unique. And to the best
of my eyes, I was probably the only one that's
compiled such an extensive a lot of notes on people.
But you know, behavior patterns, you know, and all strides
of life are very continuous, and I was able to,
like I said, you know, I would know based on
(05:38):
the fact that what mood Tiger was and how he
was walking and what his eye contact with me was,
what sort of day you were going to have.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Unreal Now, listen, how annoying did it become for you
that I'm assuming that every man and his dog wanted
to know what Tiger was Like?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Oh, look, I mean you just after you know, six
months to the job, it's like, you know, you just
realized that, hey, this is going to be part of it.
And you know, the Tiger Mania thing got really roll
and you know, it became a bit of a circus
between you know, two thousand and two thousand and five
when he was at the height of his playing and
you know, he's a once in a lifetime athlete and
obviously the best player to ever played golf and that
(06:17):
and a very special, very special individual and that. So
you know, it was all part and parcel of it.
And yeah, after you get accustomed to it and everything,
it just was part of the daily.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
The answer to the next question is a bit of everything,
I'm assuming, but the mental versus the physical, because physically
you couldn't beat him. He was a guy who transformed
the game in terms of his discipline physically, and yet
you need to be exceptional mentally to do it all,
don't you.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, one hundred percent like Tiger.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Obviously, when he started getting into his prime and everyone
looked at Tiger and how he's gone about his boss A,
he was training more than.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Most people thought it was doable with golf.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
You know, golf has a lot to do with thibility
in that his mental capacity, his strength, his mental strength,
the way that he was so focused, so determined, and
the way that he worked, he just brought a whole
new dimension to the game. Not only did he make
the game popular from a fan point of view, but
he changed the directions of what professional players became athletes.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Like you know, you could look.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
At the professional golf to it and sort of say
fifty percent of the players and fifty percent of the athletes.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, now you could.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Look at them and say, probably ninety something percent of
these guys are athletes. Now they train and do all
the different things that would go along with other sports,
not just golf.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Is he likable, genuinely likable?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, I mean he's a fierce competitor, and anybody that
has as much success continually as Tiger is going to
have some haters. That's just it's not just you know,
not because of his personality, not because of the way he is,
because he's so successful, and a lot of people in
all sports don't like the guy that's at the top
because he wins too regularly. And you know, if you
(07:59):
go to a tournament and you know Tiger's playing in
the talk went in as height and as powers, you know,
you realistically knew that you were going to have to
play outstanding to beat this guy.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The fallout between you two, how do you view it
these days?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Look, when you sign up to be a caddy for
a boy, you don't actually sign up. There's no sort
of contract, or you work for somebody and you know
it's never going to last forever.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
And if you.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Spend in our world, in a caddies world, if you
can spend five years or greater working for one play,
you consider that to be a long stint. So you know,
I was twelve thirteen years into Tiger and look, to
be honest that you know when I look back, you
know he asked me when I went basically what happens?
I went to caddy for Adam Scott and he asked
(08:41):
me not to do it. It was doing when he was injured,
and I should have listened to My wife said no, Steve,
you should. You know, if he says you don't want
to do it, he doesn't want you to do it,
you shouldn't do it. But in a nutshell, I didn't.
But look, you know it's when things went a bit
HAYWHI with Tiger, and that it never quite was the
same when I came back. So, but nothing lasts forever
when you're and yeah it was good.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And is there a desire to to I don't know,
make up, catch up put it right? Yeah, well I
would say anything.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I caught up Tiger not so long ago. I was
in Los Angeles and caught up with it and that
and had a good old chat in that. So you know,
the time heels everything, it's no big deal.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Really, So what do you make of what's happened to
him now? Because I worry about him in the sense
that he was his swing like you look at say Couples,
Freddy Couples or any ll swing, that's the that's the
most beautiful swing you've ever seen in your life. And
I look at Tigers, which is a manufactured swing, but
a discipline manufactured swing that was going to cause you
(09:37):
some sort of physical difficulty in time. And look where
it's I mean, the guy's seemingly fighting pain every day.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, it's interesting, Mike.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
The very first guy that I ever cared for Peter Thompson,
the famous Australian guy, and I had great thrill every
year at the Open Championship. Peter would attend, being a
former Open champion, and he would always meet me after
one of the practice rounds and just disc us things
and talk about different things that and he said to me, Steve,
you've got to tell this guy that's he will not
(10:06):
be able to keep swinging like that for the rest
of his life. He said, he's putting way too much
pressure on his body. And of course he arguably he
was right.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Look, I mean he has had, you know, an extraordinary
stretch of surgeries and physical things that have slowed things
down on that. But you know, everybody's asking now the
fact that is at the end of the road for
Tiger Woods, in my opinion, would say, no, it's not
because until such time where he can't where he can't
(10:39):
get himself to train and get himself prepared for a
golf turnt where he could stand on the first tee
and physically walk four days with no hesitation and be
able to practice and get himself in shape to win
a talent.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I don't think it's quite gone yet.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Amazing, hopefully amazing. I didn't realize he'd given you the
four gt. That car. I mean to come for tournament
and just go. The car is yours. And for people
who don't know what a GT is. It's it's it's
hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of car. It's it's
it's a collector's piece of car, and you've still got that.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I take it absolutely.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's a great collector's piece because it's the only one
of that type of New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So it's the driver you started driving.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Not very often, not enough, but you know, the lower
the miles a bit of the more that it's worth.
So now I take it out every now and again.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's amazing. And all the memorabilia that came with it,
it's it's do you enjoy the down memory lane aspect
of it or not?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
So, not so long ago, Mike, I actually completed my
man cave, and so when I go into there and
I take someone into that man cave that's not been
in there before and look at all the stuff that it's,
it's quite a special room and it brings back memory
lane one hundred percent. And like I said, when I
was working for Tiger, we were so focused and driven
(11:57):
on the goals that he had set a lot of
time to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Or go down memory lane in that.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But you know, as the years go go by, and
the book certainly has helped do that, because the book
has been a great road down memory lane for me
to be able to really live so many moments. And
you know, I researched quite a bit. I took a
lot of notes while I was catting, which I fortunately
still had those notes, and then I did a bit
of research as well just to bring up and that
was going down memory lane. So yeah, no, the man
(12:23):
Cave is certainly I like that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now. Always good to see you appreciate it absolutely, Mike.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Good stuff, Steve Williams, and the book is together. We
roared by Evan Priest and Steve Williams.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
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