Shane Jones: NZ First Deputy Leader on potential management of the Waitakere Ranges

The Deputy Leader of New Zealand First says his party will step in to stop management of the Waitakere Ranges morphing into co-governance. 

Auckland Council's proposing a board made up of Iwi, the Department of Conservation, and the council.  

Act Leader David Seymour has also criticised the plan as moving towards co-governance.  

Shane Jones told Mike Hosking they're not going to stand for it. 

He says they won't tolerate any slither of the West Auckland heritage land being under that type of arrangement. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have a clash of thoughts between central and local governments.
So we got New Zealand first and act they're joining
versus forces over the way TACKI rangers co governance debate. Now,
the theory is the Rangers under a deed of acknowledgment
are overseen by a local council. The Crown and local
MARI representation would be a fifty to fifty split, and
this is where the upset comes int in New Zealand First,
MP Shane Jones with us on this good.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Morning, hey morning folks.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
As much as we might agree with you and indeed
act on this, is this even your domain. This is
a council issue, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
No? An actual fact the Crown is involved because the
Department of Conservation has a stake in the future of
this twenty seven thousand hectares otherwise known as the White
Target Rangers. And look at less a loud voice publicizes
these things. You've got these secret operatives from the Labor
Party and mister Hill Greg President pushing this agenda and

(00:51):
we're not going to stand for it.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
When you say the agenda though it's been around since
two thousand and eight, this is the way Tackari Rangers
Heritage Area Act. This is hardly new, it's hardly breaking news.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Why now, Well, funnily enough or perversely, I was around
in two thousand and eight and there's no way that
Helen Clark at one thousand million years would ever have
committed an April two thousand and eight to this piece
of legislation if it was going to turn into a
platform for co governance. Now, there's nothing wrong with the

(01:19):
mucky people who come from Bethel's Beach and they lost
their land many years ago and they're trying to re
establish AMRA out there. But these are the same people
that labour did over at I Humartal Winston and I
stuck up for them, and sadly they're being used as
ideological meat in the sandwich. We are not going to
tolerate any sliver of co governance over twenty seven thousand

(01:43):
hectares of West Auckland Heritage Area, a third of which
is privately owned.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
What literally can you do about it?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, in the event that the Council does desire to
set up a committee, committees are set up under the
Local Government Act and the actual look the actual Act
going back to two thousand and eight. He's got a
lot of harmless provisions. But this is what happens. They
are cultivated and they are accelerated and in what you
think is harmless from many years ago turns into a

(02:14):
bugger's muddel. Look no further than the future of the
autoword to park for that answer.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
So you will legislate to prevent this happening, is what
you're saying. So if you are going to do that,
do you have the numbers? Because it's you and act
you have national.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, let's get the facts first. If doc are involved,
there's no way that doc has a mandate to facilitate
co governance. Dock is a part of central government. All
of the documents that are being spread around foolishly by
the Super City Council, which are trying in a very
sneaky way to introduce his co governance outcome cannot do
it without Dock's outcome. Without Dock and Doctor's part of

(02:48):
central government, and central government will be obedient to the
coalition agreement.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Edward Ashby, who's representing the local LYUIY, he says, you're optimistief,
this is misinformation, you're scaremongering, and you need to learn
to read.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
A look. I don't want to get into a slinging
match with young Edward. He needs to focus on building
on myri At Bessel speech.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
All right, appreciate your time, Shane Jones, New Zealand First temped.
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