Full Show Podcast: 13 May 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's Voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking
Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, Your local experts across residential,
commercial and rural news.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Togstead, be welling and welcome today. The police scandal around
the Deputy Commissioner's resignation and investigation. The money for Math's teachers.
A councilor who want to give Maori first DIBs on
land sales. Ryan Fox on how to improve a short game.
Catherine Fields and France. Rod Liddle Here is in the
UK PASKI. Welcome to Tuesday seven past six. Welcome back,
Tony Blair, New Reporter's part of seeing him joining the

(00:32):
growing lists who argue that net zero is doomed. Net
zero will be doomed, whether we do anything about it
or not. No one's going to jail if they don't
reach net zero, of course, It's just that we can
avoid a lot of needles damage along the way by
recognizing it's early and bailing so our economies can be
put back on some sort of level footing. Ironically, there's
growing anger and spain over last week's power blackout, with

(00:52):
a lot of people blaming the renewable aspect of their
supply chain. A Spain is over fifty percent renewable, by
the way, which is high for Europe, their argument being
the higher the reliance on renewables, the more fragilely grid is. Here.
Farmers are furious once again over the new settings for
the ets. We've gone from fifty percent to fifty one
percent reductions only because Paris says each year you need

(01:13):
to adjust up, so they adjusted the least they could,
but they still acquiesced to what was signed up years
ago when net zero was a bullish theory, not an
economy sapping reality. The Climate Commission the other day and
put new targets for credits and pricing on the carbon auctions.
They were completely different to last year's in a we
make it up because we don't really know what's going
on kind of way. We've stumbled and bumbled basically our

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way through all of this, hurting our living standards and
to what end. Emissions are in fact down for New
Zealand ya yas. Is the world any better? No, which
is why Blair joins Badnock in calling it all out.
The Reform Party are booming in no small way because
they've called it all nonsense. As well. So between Blair,
Farrage and bad Knock, that's a lot of cross political

(01:57):
support to tip up an increasingly obvious dead idea like
me too in the cancel culture and all the other
band wagons that got fashionable. Net zero is destined for
the same end. Not that helping the planet isn't good
or laudable, But what we didn't understand then but clearly
do now is at what price? And are we prepared
to pay it? And given the answers no, A few

(02:17):
more Blair, bad Knock and Farage type voices here wouldn't
go amiss.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
News of the World in ninety seconds cards.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
To know which is the bigger move really the deal
with China that has sent the markets off to the races.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Both sides now agreed to reduce the tariffs imposed after
April second to ten percent for ninety days, as negotiators
continue in the larger structural issues or.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
The announcement on US medicines that will allegedly have us
all pay more while Americans get eighty percent cats. I
never thought that this would happen in my lifetime.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I have a couple of kids who are Democrats, are
big Bernie Sanders fans, and when I told them that
this was going to happen, they had tears in their eyes.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
More shortly, in the Middle East, which is where Trump
is now hitting Hamas, has released the last American hostage
in a good will gesture. The families of hostages have
I guessed some.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Hope Begudans deserve to stop their misery as well, but
that would have to end once all the rest.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Of the sixty eight hostages.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Are back, because that would be the end of hostility.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Then, in Britain's immigration reset, which hairs at touched to
the haven't we heard this before?

Speaker 6 (03:25):
The system must support integration and community cohesion, including new
rules on the ability to speak English and the contribution
that people can bring to the UK.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Now Faraje knows why they're working so hard.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Edit.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
We will look at what comes forward in legative terms. Yes,
but frankly this is just a knee jerk reaction to reform.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
So Kia not having any of that.

Speaker 7 (03:48):
No, I'm doing this because it is right, because it
is fair, because it is what I believe it.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Askia's house, by the way, caught hire overnight bit of damage.
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about thirty four million, so good luck with a bidding
News the world in ninety By the way, NFL news
this Morning's just been announced by the league that the
Philadelphia Eagles will host the Dallas Cowboys in this year's
NFL opener Thursday, September four, first time those two sides
have met since two thousand eleven.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
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Speaker 2 (04:50):
Goes back a little bit further than the terraffs, but
the tariffs wont have helped this, And overnight globally has
announced they're laying off another ten thousand, I say another
ten thousand. They already anounced they're laying off ten thousand,
So ten and ten you get twenty So twenty thousand
people are being laid off fifteen percent of their workforce
all around the world. They're looking to book for the
quarter a net loss of something around five billion dollars.

(05:11):
So troubled in the cars fourteen passed, but it's all
going to get fixed because China and the US have
done in the Orandre good morning to you, very good morning, Mike,
and it's just gagbusters. The market.

Speaker 8 (05:26):
It's all on. So take a wee step back here.

Speaker 9 (05:29):
What we're seeing is the sort of steady removal of
uncertainty that was created by President Trump in April the
second with the announcement of the reciprocal tariffs that weren't
really reciprocal. So we've had this Trump two point zero
induced volatility and uncertainty, which is supposedly part of the
art of negotiation, but we actually delivered a month of

(05:49):
April that was pretty uncomfortable to work through with the
S and P five hundred and falling the best part
of fifteen percent. If I look at an infra day basis,
you know, we had the bond sell off where the
bond vigilantes come back, currencies all over the show.

Speaker 8 (06:03):
But the s and P. Five hundred has.

Speaker 9 (06:05):
Now klinded all of it all the way back and
will look overnight it's gapped back to where it was
in early March.

Speaker 8 (06:11):
So we've had a heck of a round trip.

Speaker 9 (06:13):
And yes, overnight you had the announcement of a holding
pattern raally and the trade standoff between the US and China.
The parties have been talking in Geneva. We've had what's
termed a massive de escalation intension. So there's been widely reported.

Speaker 8 (06:27):
The US has.

Speaker 9 (06:27):
Slash duties for the moment on Chinese imports to thirty
percent from one hundred and forty five.

Speaker 8 (06:33):
So that's a we move, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (06:35):
On the other side, China has reduced import duties on
US goods.

Speaker 8 (06:37):
To ten percent.

Speaker 9 (06:39):
It does look like there was plenty of coordination and
cooperation here if you look at the way the way
the press releases were put out, Mike, can I just
make a point, It does seem that Scott Vessant, the
Secretary of Treasury Treasury seems to be the sort of
common sense head of reason when good, when sensible stuff happens,
you can usually find his aim in there within the

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Trump administration. So they've also agreed to take aggressive action
to stem the flow of fentanyl. That may also be
a lever to chip away at these sort of twenty
percent extra that China is paying. Other countries paying ten
percent of the moment, so we've got that premium on China.

Speaker 8 (07:15):
But a much smaller one.

Speaker 9 (07:18):
Media coverage is now sort of tend to focus on
who back down, who won?

Speaker 8 (07:22):
I think, really, isn't it more important that we just
got there?

Speaker 9 (07:24):
But it does appear to be a pretty big step
back from the US. It's obviously being cheered by markets
who've talked about that. So we've had big moves overnight
as we look a at the S and P. Fi've
unded up over three percent and has up over four
percent as we talk, and I think we should see
that feel good action flow through into ostellation equity markets.

Speaker 8 (07:44):
Today as well other markets.

Speaker 9 (07:47):
US dollar is stronger, so stronger against the end, stronger
against the Euro.

Speaker 8 (07:50):
It's pushed US Treasury rates up a little bit.

Speaker 9 (07:53):
We've had a wind back of the expectation of Fed
Fund rate cuts, but we do sort of start to
speculate now on what the eventual landscape that will end
up with will be a terriff situation maybe between ten
and twenty percent. You've got to remember that is higher
than what was in place previously. That's ahead wind. So
you've still got concerns over potential US recession what impact

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that will have in US corporate earnings.

Speaker 8 (08:17):
But it's much better to have this than to not
have it.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
That is true, and that is China. But we got
one hundred and ninety something other deals to go, so
I suppose we wait to see what happens there as well. Now,
mixed concrete, which is one of our favorite measures for
the domestic market. Is this good or not? Because it's
down on some bits, but seasonally adjusted to what's it?
What's it mean?

Speaker 9 (08:35):
Well? I love this piece of data because we always
say we want hard data, don't we? So ready mixed
concrete fits that brief pretty well. Look, my interpretation is
that this does shine a light on the construction industry,
and I think it's still the construction industry is still
looking challenging. Yes, volumes were down one point five percent
of the March quarter, but when you seasonally adjust it,
they're up a little bit.

Speaker 8 (08:56):
If you look at the year.

Speaker 9 (08:57):
The March year was down five point four percent, compared
with the year to March twenty four. So look, quarterly
volume was one of the lowest we've seen on record
outside of COVID related periods of we go back over
the sort of last decade. So I think it's still
it still talks about challenging times in the industry.

Speaker 8 (09:14):
I do wonder.

Speaker 9 (09:15):
I don't know the starter well enough, but I do
wonder what the impact of large scale projects is. So
if you you know, if you're building a stadium, for instance,
in crisis, presumably that uses a bucket load of concrete
and then then you will see a dip. So not
too sure about that, but I think it says the
construction industry is still challenging.

Speaker 8 (09:32):
Right O.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Numbers please, So the Dow Jones sit down, get ready.

Speaker 9 (09:35):
It's up one thousand, one hundred and eleven points two
point seven percent forty two than three hundred and sixty one.
The S and P five hundreds up one hundred and
seventy five points five eight three six that's the three
point one to two percent game. And the Nasdaq is
up seven hundred and fifty three points, up four point
two percent, eighteen thousand, six hundred and eighty two. Happy

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days the MAGS seven index. We look at MAG seven,
they're all they're all up quite a lot. Forty one hundred,
up fifty points eighty six O four that's point five
nine percent. The nick was up point three eight over night,
one hundred and forty one points thirty seven thousand, six
hundred and forty four.

Speaker 8 (10:10):
The Shanghai composite was up point eight.

Speaker 9 (10:12):
Two percent of all of age was up three three
sixty nine to close on the Shanghai competent the Aussi's
yesterday game two.

Speaker 8 (10:18):
They'll have a good leap today.

Speaker 9 (10:20):
Closed there eight two three three and the insects fifty
gain too, point five seven percent seventy two points twelve thousand,
six hundred and seventy six on the currency's key dot,
US dollar is stronger, Kywi dollar lower point five eight
to five two against the US, points nine one nine
seven against the Ossie, point five to two eight two
against the Euro, point four four four two pounds eighty

(10:41):
six point eight to nine against the end. Gold has
come back a little bit three thousand, two hundred and twenty.

Speaker 8 (10:46):
Three dollars in Brent.

Speaker 9 (10:47):
Crew has got up a bit sixty five dollars and fifteen.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
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point two billion dollars, third record in three years, eighteen
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others can't do You know how many people Emirates employ now?

(11:13):
One hundred and twenty one thousand, two hundred and twenty three.
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Speaker 10 (11:21):
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Speaker 1 (11:29):
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Speaker 2 (11:34):
Talks at b Yes, Mike. Emeerates have given their staff
twenty two week equivalent bonus as a consequence of their
record profit. That's encouraging, isn't it. By the way, if
you're into democracy. Followed the Philippines who were voting yesterday
in midterms. All sorts of things were up for grabs.
There were sixty eight million Filipinos eligible to vote. But
the big, the big contest is in the Senate. There
are a bunch of Senate seats up, and this is

(11:55):
Marcos versus Deterte, two of the most famous political nats
in that particular part of the world of the Marcos
Senate picks get up ed increases the chances of impeaching Deterte.
Dette's the original Dette's daughter runs the place at the moment,
and they look to chase her for alleged misuse of
state funds, and that would bar her from seeking the presidency.

(12:16):
In twenty twenty eight, three hundred and seventeen member Congress,
hundreds of governors, lots of mayors, lots of city councilors.
Of the three hundred and seventeen in the House of Reps,
two hundred and fifty four voted directly by each district.
The other sixty three are elected by the party list.
But that Senate race through are twelve seats of the
twenty four Senate. In other words, half the Senate is
up for election. So Marcos v. De Terte and little

(12:38):
unfold in the next I'm assuming I don't know how
fast they count on that part of the will, but
I'm assuming the next twenty four to forty eight hours
six twenty.

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Speaker 2 (13:18):
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Speaker 2 (13:45):
Right, Ben Hobby about him, Dames and Address or Address
plays the Young Gun. It also feature cameos from Lewis
Hamilton for Stepping and Landa. Norris. Hamilton's in fact the
executive producer. It's at in theaters June twenty five and
in the US June twenty seven, just on television. News
by the way at the Upfront's NBC announced yesterday or

(14:07):
overnight our time, Michael Jordan has been hired as a
commentator slash contributor The NBA goes back to NBC come October,
so they thought Jordan might be a good one. At
the same thing, if you've just sat down and settled
into TV and z suits La wouldn't get too attached.
It has been canceled, so obviously not quite what they thought
would be. So one door closes, another door opens. Wayne Brown.

(14:32):
It's almost like its election year because Wayne Brown's come
up with a whole lot of ideas for Auckland to
get the central government involved in Auckland. And if you
help Auckland, you save Auckland. And if you save Auckland,
you saved the New Zealand economy. Also goes the Wayne
Brown style of logic. So what is the Minister for
Auckland Si me and Brown think of all of this.
He will be with us directly up to the news,
which is next You're on the Mike Hosking Brands.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
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Speaker 2 (15:08):
The start of the show, Mike Farmers knew the cost
and this is the ets and Paris and Tony Blair
and have been trying to tell everyone, but no one listens.
Maybe it's time people listen to farmers a bit more
when it comes to the environment. It's not a bad point, Michael,
Will you be addressing the Andrea vants profanity in the
hypocritical media reaction to it. A completely different scenario. This
was aimed at a durn Dave. I will, but only

(15:28):
because you texted and I'll tell you why. Shortly twenty
three minutes away from seven kasrn Field and France. Obviously
we want to know who's going to be in Turkey
on Thursday, if anyone, and the Kardashian trials underway, and
Kim's due to appear to tomorrow and Katherine's going to
be there, so she's with a shortly meantime back. You've
got a call from the Auckland Mayor Wayne Brown for

(15:49):
the central government to step in to do a whole
bunch of stuff reconsideration of a tourist bed tax, loosening
visa restrictions and better preparation for population growth, among other things.
Brown's criticized the government forguin being too distracted by mega
projects and press releases. The Minister for Auckland summing and
Brown is with us me in morning, Good morning, Mike.
Is Wayne Brown a pain?

Speaker 14 (16:09):
No, We work really well with Wayne. There's a lot
of areas that we're well aligned, particularly around transport investment,
investing in water infrastructure, unlocking land for growth. Look, there's
areas that we also disagree with. We don't think we
need to lump Auckland is with a midnight tax. In fact,
I think the council needs to be looking more in
terms of its own budget to find efficiencies and that's

(16:32):
where he should be focusing rather than just putting new
taxes in place.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Is this all electioneering? Is he putting out press releases
because it's election year and he needs some profile and
all that stuff.

Speaker 14 (16:41):
Of course it's election year, so of course the Mirror
is putting his name out there and obviously talking about
the work he's doing. But I mean we are working
closely with him and the council on a range of
the issues that he's identified as Last year we did
the deal around water care so we can unlock a
huge amount of more investment in water infrastructure and Aukland,
and we're providing more powers back to Auckland Council around

(17:03):
actually getting Auckland transport under control. So a number of
the issues he's raising are certain areas that we're working
closely with the Council on because we recognize the importance
of Auckland. It's critically important that Auckland does well, so
that New Zealand does well and that we can grow
our economy. But at the same time there's some areas
where we will disagree with and that's the nature of politics.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
The visa thing he's been bringing on about is that
even his domain.

Speaker 14 (17:25):
No, that's an issue which my colleague, Honorable Ericus Stanford
is doing a lot of work on shoes made a
number of announcements or ready this year, and how we
can open up visa rules to get more tourists into
New Zealand. That's obviously a huge priority for the government
so we can grow our economy. But look, he's putting
forward his proposals and he engages closely with ministers. We're

(17:46):
not always going to agree with everything he says or wants,
but we're very much focused on how can we grow
New Zealand's economy, how can we grow Auckland's economy, because
that's good for New Zealanders. Then they have high paying
jobs and all the benefits that come with that.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Is the power balance about right or is he overreaching?

Speaker 5 (18:06):
Look?

Speaker 14 (18:06):
I think he's doing his job. He's the mayor of
our largest city. He is clearly advocating strongly for what
he thinks is needed for Auckland. We engage closely with
him on those issues. But I think the key thing
is we're not always going to agree on everything. We
want to see Auckland thrive because that's good for New Zealand.
But as I said, there'll be some issues that we
don't agree on and that's natural politics.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Okay, not Auckland, but Horror Fena where we're talking to
them later on local council. They're doing a thing of votes.
They're going to give first DIBs to local mari on Land.
Apparently Taroma did it several years ago. Is this where
we need to be heading local body wise or not?

Speaker 14 (18:43):
No, not at all. Councils need to get back to basics.
That's been the view of this government all along, whether
it's Auckland or it's horror Fenua. Councils need to get
back to basics and focus on those core services that
ratepayers expect them to be focused on, and we've been
incredibly clear about that as a government. And you know
some councils are heating message to see Wanganui District Council

(19:04):
then you know they're getting rid of the green bin
which is saving ratpas two or three percent on their
own rates. Auckland Council could do the same. Wayne Brown
could do the same. You could remove the requirement for
green bin and save Auckland as two percent on their rates.
Those are the types of things counts New Zealanders are
looking for is how can we reduce costs, how can
we find efficiencies? How can we focus on the basics.
That's what counsels up and down the country should be

(19:25):
focused on.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Appreciate your time, Sam and Brown who was the Minister
for Auckland among another number of other portfolios. By the way,
it's ninety minutes away from seven. We will talk to
the horror fina with people. So if you're not up
on this, apparently the votes tomorrow it's highly contentious as
you can imagine. And when you go to sell a
bit of land, Mary get first dips. I mean how
they get away with that, I've got no IDEA bit
more later across the Tasman Little Proud one yesterday, just

(19:48):
mopping up the Australian election. They're still sorting out seats
and Labor seems to be winning most of them. Last
count they're up to ninety three anyway, A little proud
of the Nationals. He won, so he's the leader of
the National Party, which is part of the coalition. When
Susan lay, she seems confident that she has the number,
so you're probably going to see her name along with
Little Proud, try and resurrect the fortunes of the coalition

(20:09):
over the next three slash six years eighteen to two.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
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Speaker 2 (20:21):
I don't know if you're interested, but the did He
trials about to unfold in New York. They're are swearing
the jurors that whittle them down from you know, basts
ways down to twelve plus six alternates, well alternates. First week,
what a We got a couple of witnesses who are
expected to speak very briefly on the stand. A third
witness will see more time on the stand. He's got
dozens of civil lawsuits as well. Sex trafficking is what

(20:42):
we're dealing with. He has plared not guilty, denies all allegations.
So we'll see how this unfold.

Speaker 12 (20:46):
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Speaker 2 (20:53):
Captain Field, A very good morning to you kid. Morning mate.
Now where are we at? Are we all heading to
Turkey on Thursday day? Who's turning up? What's happening here?

Speaker 10 (21:02):
Oh, it's all getting very mixed up and has made
lots of various strands to the Ukraine War.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
At the moment, what we've.

Speaker 10 (21:10):
Got is that the Ukraine and the EU say that
there needs to be a ceasefire, a thirty day unconditional
cease fire before talks come begin. Vladimir Putin has said
he wants talks before the ceasefire, and he's ready to
have talks take place in Turkey on Thursday. Still not
sure if those talks will take place, and still not

(21:33):
even sure if Vladimir Putin himself will go or whether
he'll just send his foreign minister for his parts. Zelenski,
the Ukrainian President, has said he will go and he's
looking forward to seeing Vladimir Putin there and to be
able to talk peace.

Speaker 15 (21:49):
He had called.

Speaker 10 (21:50):
Zelinsky says that he's not really bought over on this
idea that there would be a cease fire. He said
that a ceasefire will be a good move, be a
moved toward peas a foundation for diplomacy. That he points out,
of course, that we've seen several ceasefires announced by Russia
that haven't been upheld, particularly the most recent one over

(22:10):
Easter and the recent one of course over the victory
in Europe commemorations, which there were still drone attacks on
various parts of Ukraine. So yeah, what are we going
to do, Mike, Well, the EU has said they wanted
a ceasefire to start Monday night. That's just in a
couple of hours time. The German government has said the

(22:31):
clock is ticking and of that ceasfire isn't in place
by the end of Monday Berlin time, then they will
be looking at new sanctions. We've talked about sanctions before,
so you know there's been sixteen rounds of sanctions, Mike.
This would be a seventeenth that goes ahead. So that
would be financial institutions and targeting those shadow fleets, those

(22:53):
Russian fleets that go around the world. So I'm sorry,
I can give you no more clarity on anything.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
That's a good and all right. What I am reading
this morning is Putin's messing some troops on the border
of Finland. This is in the tabloid press. I don't
know how seriously to take this. And this will be
a response to the joining of Finland, NATO ETCA. He's
got some tents and stuff. Is anyone getting exercised about that?

Speaker 8 (23:14):
Only me?

Speaker 10 (23:15):
Because I'm going to Finland at the end of the week.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Okay, Well, so look at So what you need to
do is look out for tents and if you see
a lot of Russian tents, you go, well, that's that's
on the border. Well, hold on, if you're going to Finland,
what are you going to do when you're lining up
tomorrow morning? Our time for Kim?

Speaker 10 (23:30):
Oh, well, I'm going to be lining up at seven
am in the morning, Paris time for Kim Kardashian. Yes,
after this, think back, this is twenty sixteen, that big
robbery here in Paris. We're expecting her to arrive. She's
going to give a statement before the court and the
early afternoon in Paris time. We're told to expect chaos

(23:51):
outside the court, not only journalists, not only onlookers, but
the paparazzi. Everyone's going to be there. Police have said
they will sneak her into the court, so we won't
get a view of her until she's actually physically in court.
But after she's given her statement, she has answered questions
from the judge, the magistrates and the public prosecutor, she

(24:12):
will make a statement on the courtroom steps after that.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
And also you're going to Finland at a time when
normally you'd attend the carn Film Festival, and and.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
What's happening there.

Speaker 10 (24:23):
There's always something to look out for at the Can
Film Festival, but what are the big things This year
We've seen various occasions across the red carpets across the
world nudity, you know, we've seen what have been described
as sheer outfits. Well who would believe it, but the
Can Film Festival organizers have said this year nudity is

(24:45):
prohibited on the red carpet. I know, it's black tie,
evening gown, cocktail dresses and elegant sandals, only this year
they want people covered up and they're saying no provocative displays.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
All right, Well, good luck in the for the trial tomorrow.
Nice to see Catherine Field and France. I was only
at the baft of photos yesterday and I'm a big
fashion fan. But I first of all, maybe I'm naive,
but I didn't realize the baftis were for a bunch
of try hards. I thought it was relatively serious, and
all these losers from reality television turned up wearing next
to nothing, and I'm thinking, what a bunch of low
rent tosses anyway? Sound almost like a prude, don't I?

(25:22):
So why Mike is putin massing troops on the border
of Finland. My suspicion at the moment is it's a
reaction to Finland and Sweden joining NATO. He said he
would react if that happened. It did, so he is.
He's pulling up a few tents. I don't think it's
going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Ten away from seven, the Mike Hosking breakfast with al
Vida Retirement Communities news togs had been.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Seven away from seven. Mike, will you be addressing the
andro events, profanity and the hypocritical media reaction to it now?
Dave I wasn't, because it's just attention seeking. When you
write that sort of thing, you're looking for attention. She
got attention. Good luck to her, what I might say,
because I read it this morning, because I pay no
attention to these things most of the time. I'm read
it this morning because of the kerfuffle. And I actually

(26:03):
thought she wrote a very good column. I think she's
a very good writer. There are exceptions within this column
things I wouldn't have done, obviously, but in terms of
putting words together, she argued cogently, I thought she got
the message completely wrong in the sense that she did
what the Prime Minister's trying desperately hard to do, is
to unwind the complexity of the issue. So, in other words,

(26:25):
a lot of people are getting pay equity and what
they're trying to do mixed up with paying women what
they're worth and all the other emotive nonsense around it.
But having said that she was looking for a storm,
she got a storm. And when you say, a completely
different scenario of this was aimed at to do. And
I have seen nothing other than approbrium, upset, an outrage

(26:46):
in an age of outrage, I've just seen a lot
of people outraged at what she did, and there'll be people.
Jenny Shipley was saying, I won't lay a complaint, or
Nikola won't lay a complaint, but maybe others will lay
a complaint and we can all lay a complaint to
some sort of mindless, nameless, faceless body who in six
months time will come up with some pointless report that
says no, no, you can't do that, and as a result,

(27:07):
nothing will happen. Meantime, here in Mike hosking Land, I'm
carrying on five minutes away from seven Well, the ins
and the ouse.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
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Speaker 2 (27:19):
And I'm carrying on with very good news because Westpac
have come to the party once again. This is their
Economic Overview Report, which is out this morning. We're still
wading through some uncertainty, but the GDP here are the numbers.
These are reasonable numbers. They're GDP forecast two point seven
this year, two point eight next. Ocr to continue to
drop fifty bases points. There'll be two lots to twenty

(27:40):
five that'll put neutral at three. Still some debate around that.
Most people think Neutral may well be needing to be
lower than three, but has be that as it may.
Let's get a couple of twenty fives under our belt
and see how we go. Eighty percent of mortgages, by
the way, are going to be rolling onto those lower rates.
And you know that means whoohoo, money more time. Let's
go shopping house prices and for really good news. And

(28:00):
this is why I'm using this morning because I've got
my lunch bet with Andrew Kelliher. My lunch bet with
Andrew Kelliher is that house prices will go up five
plus percent this year. He says five or under Westpac
six ding ding ding, ding ding ding ding lunch for Mike.
They did say seven, so it's down to six. But
I think they're on the money or they're or thereabouts,

(28:22):
so they say six percent for the year. Dairy sector.
They're still very bullish on the dairy sector. And who
wouldn't be farm Gate at ten thirty for this year,
early forecast for next season of ten flat. I mean,
they're big numbers. Anything with a ten. When Bill English,
once upon a time a number of years ago, said
well never so we'll never see eight again. We never
see anything more than eighty ever again. Stronger export prices,

(28:45):
which brings me to ans COO. Remind me to talk
to you about ANSCO next down anyway, where was I
red meat exports? Current account deficit's going to narrate a
three point five percent of GDP, which is incredible given
what sort of you know did have, which was six.
You don't want a current account lift it. As I've
said to you on the program a million times, you

(29:05):
actually want to do more with the world than the
world is doing with you. In other words, you want
to have some money left over at the end of
the day when you get your income. You want some
coin in the bank at the end of the day,
as opposed to continually owing the world. That's how it
should work. Stuart Nash, former Police Minister Labor, was the
appointees of mister misks skimming where there red flags going
on there? What happened there? Ryan Fox is driving across

(29:27):
America as we speak, bagging the boot kids in the back,
Missus next to them, PGA Winner. He's with us on
the program as well.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
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with the range Rover villa designed to intrigue and use
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Speaker 2 (29:48):
Welling seven past seven, So a lot of questions around
the resignation of Deputy Police Commissioners Geven mc skimming been
suspended on full pay while under criminal investigation. As a
result of that investigation, new issues emerged. It was suggested
pornographic material was found on his work computer. They were
going to sack and he jumped first. Former Police Minister
Stuart Nash is with us. Good morning to you, Good morning, Michael, Well,

(30:08):
thank you. How well are you known?

Speaker 16 (30:10):
I knew Jiven very well, so I can talk about
the man who was the depty commission when I was
a police minister. Look, if you've been in the police
for thirty years and you've risen to the rank that
he has, you've impressed some very some very good, very
competent and capable people over the time. He rose to
the almost to the top. So he's a good man.
I don't know about these allegations, but I can tell

(30:32):
you I can talk to you about the man that
I knew. It was confident, he was capable, he was
respectful and an overall good blow.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
You appointed him, not you personally, but the Labor Party
appointed him to the job. He is was until yesterday
there was nothing there, presumably at all, to indicate trouble
was ahead.

Speaker 16 (30:51):
No, nothing at all. Keeping in mind that there are
two types of deputy commissioner. Is the deputy commissioner that's
been appointed up the ranks, and then there's a status
to appointment. So you know, when you say we appointed him,
he was he was an officer for about twenty six
years before he reached the role of statutory deputy commissioner.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
How deeply does anybody look into the background before a
bigger job is given in these pretty deep right.

Speaker 16 (31:16):
So pretty deeply actually, certainly after you know, there's been
some reasonably high profile cases where we've appointed someone as
a statute deputy and stuff has come out, so you know,
you do a pretty thorough search. But you know, the
thing I don't quite understand, Michael, I'm really honest with
you as I read some reports that there has been
porn found on a work computer. I mean, every bloke

(31:37):
listening to the show knows there are ways to watch
porno without watching on your work computer. So I struggle
with that because Jim's a really smart guy, and you know,
watching porn on your work computers that's pretty pretty dumb thing.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
To do so the criminal this seems to be secondary
to what they were investigating in the first place. Do
you you don't have to tell us, but do you
have an indication as to what it might be?

Speaker 16 (32:00):
I don't, actually and that's the truth. I couldn't tell
you if I did, but I actually don't. That's why
I can tell you about the man that I knew
when I was commissioner. And like I said, thirty years
deputy commissioner, that's almost at the top. So you've done
some really good work over thirty years, Doga.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
So this is a shock. If something criminal comes out
of us, beyond the porn thing, you know, as in charges,
you will be shocked.

Speaker 16 (32:24):
I will be shocked well, because that's not the man.
Keep in the mind, you know, when the minister you
have officials through your office once or twice a week.
Geven was off on one of those officials who came
in as also, as you have alluded to, when he
was appointed as a statutory deputy commissioner, there was a
little bit of work done to make sure that he
was a fit and proper person. He checked out all

(32:45):
the way through his career progression. There will have been
checks and balances in place to ensure that this guy
is suitable for the next level of police and as mentioned,
over thirty years he's passed every single one of those,
so it is surprising. But I don't know what's there,
and no one does until either charges or not, as
the case may be.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Time will tell. Appreciate your time. Stuart Nation formoth for
Lice Minister ten minutes past seven. If you haven't seen it,
it is worth watching. Ryan Fox makes the playoff at
Myrtle Beach Classic. A lots on the line besides the
prize money, most notably entry to the PGA Championship coming up.
Of course, he has a chip for Birdie fifty ish
feet nails it. When's breakthrough victory, it's fantastic, Ryan Fox,
as with us morning Mike, Congratulations. So okay, here's your

(33:27):
first question. From the time the ball left the club,
when did you know?

Speaker 17 (33:34):
I mean, it landed exactly where I wanted it to land,
and I reckon about ten foot hour. I thought it
had a read good chance of going in. I had
a part in regulation that was really similar line and
it didn't break very much. I missed it to the
right and when I saw this one was further left.
I'm doubt it's got a chance. It had good speed,
and obviously I was pretty excited to see it going.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I reckon on any given day, how many times out
of ten would you back yourself to make that shot?

Speaker 17 (34:04):
Probably zero point one percent of point one out of
ten or something. You know, like you don't chip in
very often. You know, it was an easy enough chip
without the apart from a little bit of rough behind
the clubhead. But yeah, you know, to make that, especially
in the situation, you know, that's like a one in

(34:24):
a thousand shot, and to put it off in that situation, yeah, yeah,
very toughed and obviously I get a lot out of it,
but you know, it meant a lot to get that
first win on the PGA Tour.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, what's the most important thing the first win, the
check or the entry and this, you know, the ability
to play on the tour for a couple.

Speaker 8 (34:41):
Of years the latter.

Speaker 17 (34:44):
You know, having job security on the PGA Tour for
a couple of years is pretty big. You know, we
don't get a lot of that in this game. And
it's yeah, it's nice to nice to be able to
plan a schedule now for the next couple of years,
have some certainty around, you know, being based in the
States for the next couple of years, you know, figure

(35:04):
out what to do with kids, schooling and all of
that stuff, which are good problems to figure out, but
at least you know there's some certainty with all of
that now. And that's Yeah, that was huge. You know,
the other stuff's important. Getting into the PGA. This suite's
was a nice bonus as well, and obviously the paycheck
doesn't hurt, but you know, the biggest thing as getting
that status.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
And lovely to have the family with you yesterday.

Speaker 17 (35:26):
Yes, you can probably hear them in the background there
we're in the car driving up to Quail Hollow now,
and yeah, it was. It was awesome, you know to
I don't think the girls quite knew what was going on.
They're a bit overawed by the cameras at the end,
but you know, to be able to share that moment
with them was pretty cool. My wife actually what she
saw some of it while she's picking the girls up

(35:48):
from childcare and didn't quite realize I'd won until one
of the other players said, hey, you know, these if
these guys, miss Ryan's going to actually win, and it
was pretty cool. She was a bit shocked and it
was a nice Mother's Day present for her as well.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
I reckon, what's the drive from where you were to
Quail Hollot. How far is that?

Speaker 17 (36:08):
It's about three and a half hours. It's not bad,
so it's it's been a slow morning though, I can
say that.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Can we say why? Ryan?

Speaker 17 (36:18):
There might have been a little bit of red wine
drunk last night. But I haven't missed anything today. We've
had storms all day. We're driving through the pouring rain
up to Quell Hollow, so apparently the golf course if
it's not shut, I don't think there'll be anyone out
there today. They had no fans out on the golf
course today either, so it's yeah, I don't feel like
I've missed much. And you know, obviously getting in this

(36:39):
week was a nice bonus. The only way I was
going to get in was actually winning. So yeah, it's
nice to be heading up there and trying to prepare
for another.

Speaker 13 (36:46):
Major heading up.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
They're a winner. You can't argue with that, can you.

Speaker 17 (36:50):
No, No, I'm pretty chuffed, so.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
You should be.

Speaker 8 (36:53):
Well.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I'm mate lovely to catch up. Go well for the
rest of the trip.

Speaker 17 (36:57):
Thanks Mike, appreciate it and appreciate all the support from
back from everyone.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
That's been awesome, good stuff. Ryan Fox Life from somewhere
between Myrtle Beach and Quail Hollow on the road with
the kids, slightly hungover. Sort of the best way to
be in many respects. Fourteen past the.

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their dream? I can't get enough of it. Seventeen past seven.
So more resources being piled into schools this time. Are
Math's got one hundred million over four years, one hundred
and forty three Maths intervention teachers. They'll help primary school
kids who are struggling from next year to every child
will have their Math's ability checked in the first couple
of years of schooling.

Speaker 17 (37:36):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
The Principals Federation National President le And is with us.
Leand Morning Morning, Mike.

Speaker 16 (37:42):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, well thank you. You can't argue the government and
the Minister Stamford isn't working hard to write the ship.
Is that fair?

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (37:49):
Absolutely, I mean she wants exactly the same as principles
and that is that every young person thrives in school,
So you know, any investment into supporting children who are
struggling at goals is a good thing.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Do teachers fix maths issues?

Speaker 5 (38:06):
They definitely can if they're given the support that they need.
And you know, this funding injection into maths is you know,
it's a start. But what we need is to make
sure that every single one of our teachers is an
expert of teaching on maths. And that's not addressing this
in this latest now.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
It is not, which was my next question. If you
do need specialists, what's that say about what we're training
as generalists and do we need to do something about that?

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, every single teacher needs to be
a math specialist, and unfortunately, you know, we do not
have the professional developments that we know desperately need for
all of our teachers. And it starts with training, of course,
you know, when they were training to be teachers, but
it then continues on when they're at school, I mean,
when they're working. So we really need to make sure

(38:58):
that the money there is investing and helping our students
and our schools is invested in teachers too, and that
they have the professional development they need up the gill
to be able to deliver.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Where are we getting all these teachers from? Are we
growing them or importing them?

Speaker 5 (39:13):
Well, that's the problem, isn't it. We don't have enough
teachers as it is, so you know, to take one
hundred and forty three I think it is out of
our school system and make them the experts and then deliver.
You know, basically a program where you withdraw children from
the classroom is not going to solve our problem in
the long run.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
No, No, it's interesting is now. I don't know how
they're going to do it. Next time I get Erica on,
I'll talk to he about it. Lee, I appreciate it.
New Zealand Principles Federation National President lean openly, which brings
me to Rod, who's with us after eight thirty. I
just cannot wait to talk to them. What they're trying
to do with immigration in Britain, as you will in
the rest home area no longer be able to import
somebody into the country, so you'll need to have a

(39:51):
locally grown trained person to work in the rest time area. Now,
if we did that in this country, whether it be teachers,
nurses or restaurant people would collapse literally overnight. G Mike
Stewart Nation is a decent bloke, smart, straight up talker, good,
crucial thinker. Some of his ex colleagues could take a
left from his book. You're probably right. What I want
to know is he joining New Zealand first or as
he's starting his own party A there's a political discussion.

(40:12):
But another day, Mike, I've got to signed eighteenth flag
from Ryan's first British Open sold into junior golf fundraiser,
one of my best assets at the moment. The value
is rising. Well done.

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twenty four, the social media ban. I've been thinking about that.
It's like the pay equity debate. Actually not hard to

(41:35):
draw up a lot of emotion, not hard to find
people who would argue passionately for it. So in this sense,
perhaps unlike the pay equity debate, the government is on
the right side of this. Now, for the record, my
gut say is the pay equity debate is somewhat of
a risk, but is more beltway in union based than
many thinking. Won't ultimately damage the government. The social media
ban won't damage them either, even though it won't work,

(41:56):
which it won't. It's not like the school phone ban.
A phone ban is played and white in class. No phones. Now,
that's been successful because the government played the bad guy,
allowing schools to do what schools should have done all along.
The social media ban is designed to help parents be
the bad guys backed by the government. See now we're
looking to Australia. In Australia, they're exempting YouTube, they're exempting telegram,

(42:18):
they're exempting gaming and as part of that roadblocks. There
are confirmed reports of Peterphile rings using roadblocks. So the
government and our arbiters of what's good, what's bad, what's
what's wrong, Libertarians will be having a field day and
no wonder Actor not on board and Act by the way,
according to their leader who was listening to the Prime
Minister on this program yesterday, have not moved their position
on backing the idea because they don't. So the moment

(42:42):
you go down the metas bad YouTuber's fine pathway, that's
lawyers and possibly threats of lawyers or possibly the pulling
of services from country. The government was also you might
remember related matter, government was also looking at big tech
paying for local media for content that the big tech
takes and makes money off. We were following Australia on
that as well. What happened to that trumped it and

(43:02):
tariffs and threats of services being pulled. Has any of
it come to pass?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
It has not. Will it come to pass?

Speaker 3 (43:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
It well not now. Glenn passcras Z Energy not commenting
on Flick flecks a retailer of power. If you're a
Flick customer and there's forty thousand of you, you're going
to be shipped off to Meridian. I don't know whether
you're excited about that or not, but this brings back
the whole gent tailor argument and you can't make any money.
Octopus or another retailer not a gent tailor or a retailer,

(43:33):
have done themselves a survey in that they've completely and
utterly wasted money. I have no idea what they paid
for it, but they completely and utterly wasted any money
they spent on this particular survey. The survey tells us
thus half of New Zealand I'm more concerned about the
power bill than this time last year. Breaking up the
electricity gent tailors could improve competition. We don't know that.
We're only guessing because we say random stuff to polsters.

(43:56):
Curia did it? Forty six percent are now more concerned,
thirty nine percent about the same, eight percent less concerned.
Sixty nine percent of US big majority government is not
doing enough to bring down electricity prices. As I asked
earlier on in the program with Ryan, what is it
you want the government to do? Literally? Literally? What do

(44:16):
you want the government to do? Do you want the government
to hand you some money? Is that what you were like?
Would you like the government to pay your power bill?
What is it that they can tangibly? Do you want
them to instruct You want to be like Russia or
North Korea and they instruct the power companies what they
can charge. Sixty seven believe sixty seven percent believe the
profits being made by electricity companies are unreasonably high? Are they?

(44:38):
Ask yourself how much Meridian made and you don't know.
Of course you don't know. Most people don't know what
profits electricity companies made are. Just for the record, Meridian
made a loss. There are no profits for Meridian. They
lost money, so they lost twenty million dollars one hundred
and twenty million that's going up by the minute of
sam is it hardly show one hundred and twenty million dollars?
So when you say they make a lot of profits,
they don't always make a lot of profits. Does any

(45:00):
of us actually know what we're talking about? And therefore,
given we don't, why do we answer poles?

Speaker 11 (45:04):
For goodness sakes?

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Speaker 2 (45:18):
Togs head be Mike, what did the government cut GST
on power bills to help people out? Now? See, this
is where we go wrong in this country. These are
the sort of crazed ideas that we can't be having.
Why don't we just take GF What are the stuff
we'd like GST off? So obviously airline tickets because they're
too expensive. We'll take GST off that fruit, vegetables obviously, well,
actually food, let's take GST off food because that would

(45:40):
help us out. Uniform school uniforms, school lunches, obviously, because
we already did the food power We need help on power.
What if you need a new car. We don't want
to pay GST on accout because that makes the camera expense.
Why do we just scrap GSC Why don't we.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
Have no texts?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
See where this goes? Twenty three minutes away from eight
speaking of it at Stephanie Tully runs Jetstar. They were
listening to Greg Foran's interview the other day of aviation
and competition and whizzing up and down the country on
a plane and how much it costs them coming. They said,
we like to come on the program, and I said, Stephanie,

(46:17):
everyone wants to come on the program, but we found
a slot and shall be with us after eight o'clock
this morning. Now we've got more race based trouble at
council level, this time in Horror Fenoa. A couple of
councils are calling out a proposal that would give you
we first write a refusal at market rate when the
council sells certain properties. Now the council votes on this tomorrow.
Claimers it only got this far because the public were

(46:38):
locked out of a meeting. Last year, a similar first
of its comment policy for council land was adopted, apparently
by towering back in twenty twenty one. Anyway, Local Council
of Sam Jennings is with a Sambury good morning to
you morning Mike how I are very well, thank you. Any
land or certain land no.

Speaker 18 (46:54):
So this is a default policy that would see all
of council's land that is suitless land deemed non core
to be offered first to to EWE.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Why were the public locked out of the meeting?

Speaker 18 (47:07):
So this this is a proposal that was first cooked
up by a couple of councilors back in two wenty
twenty three. It was a sort of piggybacked off another
another decision and it's taken almost two years for it
to navigate its way through the through the council machine.
But it's yeah, it's ultimately just a really ill thought
out policy that that you know that that two years

(47:30):
sort of indicates how how much trouble there has been
in trying to get something ready to put in front
of council.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Has the public had any say on this at all?
Would the public be widely aware of what's going on
locally or.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Not not at all?

Speaker 18 (47:44):
This look this the first direction to the CEO to
go away and think about this was done in public excluded.
And yes there's been a couple of workshops that have
happened since, but no, look, this is on the on
the public agenda tomorrow. I'm certain that the vast majority

(48:04):
of our population would have absolutely no awareness of this
at all.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Of those who think this is a good idea, what's
their argument?

Speaker 18 (48:13):
I think I think the argument sort of stems from
this idea that in some ways it's a it's a
form of redress or or it's it's you know, we
get this this phrase it's the right thing to do,
and you know that that's problematic from from my perspective
and from some of my colleagues perspectives, where we say
this is about betting privilege or or a right into

(48:34):
council policy, and that's contrary to this whole obligation of fairness,
transparency and that whole.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, and financial if it's any land, I mean, if
if if you were arguing with me that, look, this
was land they once held, and there's a claim in
the tribunal and there's been a dispute over this particular
piece of land, I might have some sympathy. But if
you're telling me it's literally any chunk of land that
you go to sell and Mari get first dips. That's
just straight up and down racism.

Speaker 18 (49:00):
Correct And we and we have a property portfolio that
has small, sort of weird slivers of land through to
large pieces of land that have significant development potential. And
I'm with you if the better approach would be to
simply understand what the level of interest is across various
pieces of land, if there's some that have corps of

(49:20):
significance or something like that, But that doesn't take away
from our obligation to ratepayers.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
To get the best price for the land and put
it out to tender and whoever pays the most as bad.
So how do you think the vote will go tomorrow?
Because he's the Democratic end, do you think you'll win
all lose?

Speaker 18 (49:35):
Well, Look, I think it's a pretty finally, finally balanced
decision and so that's that's going to be My message,
is that hoping that our ratepayers come out and request
speaking rights and tell us what they think, because this
is the only opportunity to do that.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Where's the mayor on this?

Speaker 18 (49:52):
Look don't know, I don't don't know. He wasn't there
for the original He was the one one and I
only meaning I think he's had to be absent for
and he missed the vote on whether to go and
sending the CEO away to do some work on this.
But as I say that, that was a surprise to

(50:13):
many of us at the time.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
On related matters, do you have Marie Wards or seats?

Speaker 18 (50:19):
Yes we do, we have too Mightywards.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
And you're putting those to what a referendum at the
local body election or you're abscraping them. So yeah, no,
it's going to a referendum and you reckon it'll win
or lose.

Speaker 18 (50:31):
Look again, I think the vote will be pretty finely
balanced here and if you know, yeah, I think it's
going to be closer than people might think.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
That's interesting. Well, good luck with it. I mean, I
don't know. See, here's the thing. We had the old
Simeon Brown on earlier, and he's busy telling councils to
get back to the basics and get on with being
a council and stop you know, dabbling in these sort
of areas. It doesn't seem to be landing. Do you
guys listen to central government at all or you don't
really care or well yeah, this is the.

Speaker 18 (50:59):
Thing, is that I feel certainly our council at times
gets very distracted with some of the very soft, fluffy
identity politics and not on the you know, the big
important stuff, the strategic infrastructure decisions. So yeah, look, I
think it is a council wide problem.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
All right, Well, go old to Murray. I wish you're
the best. Sam Jennings, who is one of the councilors
in horror fenyway, I don't know what you do. See
it goes back to the government swimming simming and can
say that till he's blue in the face. But if
people ignore him, you look like a weak government, don't you.
Seventeen minutes away from eight hosking how much is smoke salmon?

(51:36):
Go and call it, Glenn right now? How much is
smoke salmon? Aquillo? Sam? Thirty six dollars aequilo? So Sam says,
thirty six dollars aquilo, Glenn. I'll give you one more chance.
Do you think it's more or less than that? At
a guess at a store?

Speaker 13 (51:49):
I guess more, go for fifty forty sixty in the
late forties, I go for.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Come back with the answer. In the moment seventeen to two, the.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show pod asked on iHeartRadio Power
by the News Talks, it'd.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Be irony and of ironies. Literally just flick on the
Herald for a quick look. Public Services Minister Judith Collins
is considering removing diversity requirements in public sector hiring, focusing
on merit based appointments. While there's your headline this morning, fantastic,
What a remarkable and revolutionary thought based process that we
would hire somebody who could actually do the job as
opposed to being woke. Now she makes that announcement, then

(52:26):
nothing happens, right, So she makes the edict and then
everyone just carries on as per normal. What's the point
of that. Why have a government that says do this
and nobody does it? Seems ridiculous to me. Back to
the salmon, Kate brings home a piece of salmon. She
does this regular unless she eats a lot of salmon.
Salmon's fantastically good for you. I'm endlessly interested in the
cost of everything, because when I move into politics, I'm

(52:48):
going to end up on a leader's debate and one
of the questions is going to be how much is
a piece of salmon? How much is a price of milk.
How much is the average power bill? And I'm going
to be ready for it. I'm I'm going to blow
them away anyway. So I'm asking you a piece of salmon.
And she goes and I got really nice piece of salmon.
It was sixteen dollars fifty. I see how much is that? Aequila?
We look at it and I am absolutely gobsmacked. Now

(53:11):
it happened to be a boutique piece from a very
small producer, and I thought, well, that'll be because it's
a boutique piece from a very small producer. So I
go look up smoked salmon and all the regular stuff.
Your king salmon, your supermarket salmon, is even more than
what we paid. So we paid one hundred and thirteen

(53:31):
dollars akilo, at which point I go, you must be drunk.
I fill it's sixty or seventy. I'm thinking this is ridiculous.
Lambs up there as well, snappers in the fifties. One
hundred and thirteen dollars a quiller. Then you go to
your bog standard king salmon, put a bit of pepper
on it. One hundred and twenty five dollars akuilo. I

(53:53):
can find you salmon bog standard mass produced salmon smoked
salmon from a supermarket at one hundred and twenty nine
dollars a kilo. How long has this been the way?
What's going on now? The argument is, because I start
investigating at this point, a lot of waiters lost in
the smoking process. So you start off with a kilo
and you smoke it up and it comes out at

(54:14):
about two grams, so you've lost lots, so they've got
to make up the difference. Then they had a bit
of pepper vacuum seal it. So somewhere in there. But
is somebody making a lot of money or is that
just the cost of salma?

Speaker 13 (54:23):
Well, so you're not eating a kilo of salmon, of.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Course you're not, but the cost per you're not eating
a kilo of steak either. Well yeah, but if you
and you're not in a kilo of snapper, you.

Speaker 13 (54:32):
Have a steak. Though I'd argue that you'd have more
steak than you'd have to have.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Two fifty grams of steak unless you're a peak.

Speaker 13 (54:38):
Yeah, but you're not gonna have turn of fifty grams
of salmon. That's going to be no.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
So what you're saying is it's the amount you eat,
therefore they can charge more per kilo.

Speaker 15 (54:45):
No, I'm just saying that when she comes home with
her portion, she's going to wake it out her portion
of salmon, and it was sixteen dollars.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
You go, oh whatever, Well yeah I did, and that's
how this whole thing began. But look where we ended up, Glenn.
We're paying a hundred two five to one hundred and
twenty nine dollars aequila for smoked salmon.

Speaker 13 (55:02):
So I know a guy who does very nice smoke trout.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Well, how much is that aquila?

Speaker 13 (55:07):
Well nothing, because he answer, he's related to me.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Grow your own salmon, grow your own trout, grow your
own vegetables, to cut the GST off power obviously, and
we're set to go. But how long has that been
a thing? Let me know if you're in the business.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Ten away the mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range, Rover
Villa News Togsadben, I've.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Opened up as salmon can of worms here. I'll have
to go back to that. Seven and seven away from
spark As in the Telco weighing into the use of
social media, they're launching the countries where his mobile plan
for kids It will let parents control usage and data
limit users to low data wraps like bus apps and
find my Phone now sparks. Leela Ashford is with us
on this, Leela, very good morning to you.

Speaker 19 (55:46):
Thank you, good morning mine.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
How technically advanced is this?

Speaker 19 (55:51):
So it's the first to launch in New Zealand. When
we do launch it, it's new capability that we'd be providing
for our customers, and really it's based off quite a
bit of research we've done with parents and our customers
who are parents who are telling us that they're trying
to balance the benefits of giving their kids a phone
that come with the connectivity and being able to keep
in touch with them, but they're not wanting to open

(56:12):
the floodgates to everything that comes with the internet all
at once.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Who's it aimed at? Age wise? When you talk about
parents giving kids phones, would we talking about age wise?

Speaker 19 (56:22):
Well, from our research, we see that parents tend to
make that choice generally somewhere between eight and fourteen. In
terms of who can access this plan, we leave that
up to parents. It's seventeen and below, but it really
does vary by family.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Okay, it says new parental control features allowing parents to
manage the plan by are sending how much data is
allocated to the child? Can you do that already?

Speaker 10 (56:43):
No?

Speaker 19 (56:44):
So generally when you buy a plan, it comes with
a certain data limit and so your child can you know,
che But can I.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Put my kid on my phone? I mean, I know it?
Can I do? We have kids on my phone? So
can I just do that and solve the problem.

Speaker 19 (56:57):
So what this plan does is it comes with a gigabyte,
but then the parent decides when the child gets the
next gigabyte. So it's actually dishing out data in smaller
proportions based on when the parent thinks that is appropriate.
And to give you context, one gigabyte you're only really
going to be able to do endless scrolling or watching
reels on social media for one to two hours, depending

(57:20):
on the quality. So this isn't letting kids off the
tether to do whatever they want. It really is something
that's more suited to low levels of data use.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Great debate of our time, isn't it? Leela appreciated Leila
Ashford's spark corporate relations sustainable.

Speaker 15 (57:34):
I mean when you set up an iPhone, it literally
asks you are you sitting this up for yourself.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Yes, or for your kid, yeah. But what if you lie.

Speaker 17 (57:44):
Well?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
And then that's the problem, isn't it. Because Jason comes
and Jason the bosh. I mean did you hear him before?
I mean just lost he lost his head, he's nuts.
So my comment this morning, just before seven thirty, he
comes and goes, I couldn't disagree with you more. I
couldn't off he went. And this is the interesting thing
about this whole phone thing. What I'm arguing is that

(58:05):
we all agree, do we want to do something about
protecting our kids with social media? Of course we do do,
some of us as parents do it already. Yes, you
would like to.

Speaker 13 (58:13):
Hope I got a bowl. Apparently I had a bowl.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Well, I don't have kids anymore, thank god, but I
had a bowl when we did have kids, and we
laid down some pretty rough rules, and as I told
you on the program yesterday, we got pretty hated for
a period of time, but we did the parenting. So
for people who don't want to do that, we're relying
on the government now apparently, so God bless them. But
all I'm arguing is technically, forget the emotion. Forget whether

(58:36):
we should forget Jason was going to stop them at
the border. Those were as parting words at the end
of sport. Just stop them at the border, just turn
turn them off. I hate them. This was meta and
all the Googles, I hate them, turn it off, stop
them at the border. I didn't have time to explain
that the net doesn't work at the border. But be
that as it may, So forget all of that and

(58:56):
just go back to the technical Can you technically stop
six year olds getting to social media? Can you do it?
And the answer is no? And I know the answer
is no because there are plenty of people looking at it,
and guess what, not one of them has come up
with the answer yet. And until you do come up
with the answer, the next part is is it worth
pursuing it in an emotional way if you know ultimately

(59:17):
the answer is no, and therefore the problem is not solved.
Jason will come back in during the news at eight.
We'll just carry that on. So God, I can't wait
till we get out of the news and Sport and
we can get back to some interviews.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Jetstar CEO next setting the agenda and talking the big issues.
The mic HARKing Breakfast with a Vita retirement, communities, Life
Your Way News, tog s head b.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
The perfect for a flight there seven past eight last week.
One of the listeners to the Great Foreign Interview were
the good folks at Jetstar four and is on his
way out. Of course, some of the changes on problems
he faced in his time, he claimed, will be sort
of by the time he leaves in October. The debate
remains though around pricing and especially regionally in this country,

(01:00:01):
with the Finance Minister keen on the market studying the
Prime Minister not so much. Jetstar is the cheap alternative,
of course, it also the airline with a reputation that
isn't that reliable. It also picks the roots it competes on,
reminding us that a population of five million, maybe maybe
one of the better airlines is all we can basically handle. Anyway,
let's talk aviation. CEO of Jetstar out of Australia this
morning is Stephanie Tully, who is what it's very good morning.

Speaker 13 (01:00:24):
To you morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Are you doing very well? Indeed, I've been reading some
interesting reports out of Australian aviation. There was I think
what they referred to as a white paper, and that
we're talking about the border security in the last couple
of days. Is there an angst in general terms around
aviation and Australia, the price of tickets getting from A
to B, getting in and out of the country and
all of that post COVID.

Speaker 11 (01:00:46):
Oh, Look, I think there's a cost of living pressure
that everyone's feeling, both in Australia and New Zealand. And
I guess that's where Jetstar becomes a great choice because
you know, everyone at Jetstar works together to make trouble
more affordable and accessive. And I think what we've seen
with Jetstar and with our operational performance and our brand
improving over the last few years, we've seen a lot

(01:01:08):
more people choosing Jetstar. So I think I think there's
always that pressure in the environment when you've got higher
inflationary pressures. But you know, that's where jet Star, I
think our whole purpose for being becomes very relevant because
consumers still want to travel. We've seen since COVID people
you know, prioritizing travel over spend on other things after
what they went through. So I think travel remains really

(01:01:31):
key for Australians and New Zealanders because of the where
we're placed in the world, and I think it's in
our in our DNA to want to travel. So I
think that's why we think Jetstar plays such an important role.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Some of the American airlines, I note, and some of
the cruise lines are now suggesting that the post COVID
madness is peaking or has peaked. Are you seeing any
of them?

Speaker 11 (01:01:51):
Yeah, I mean, I think we went through a very
big peak post COVID of just you know, demand outstripping
supply as airlines got back and their feed and consumers
were desperate to travel not only for holidays, but to
see family and friends that they had not been able
to do during COVID. We still see it heightened from

(01:02:11):
pre COVID levels, so we think there's been a structural change.
And I think for New Zealanders and Australians, you've got
you know, you're far away from from the rest of
the world, you're essentially Ireland. So I think that it
is not only historically in our in our DNA to
wanna travel, but I also think COVID might have structurally
changed that that you actually prioritize that travel and you're
willing to spend on travel than you know, consumer goods

(01:02:35):
and other things. We see that in our insights and
we think that that's still heightened.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Is your model the same internationally? It is as it
is domestically in terms of it is cheap.

Speaker 11 (01:02:46):
Yeah, how we want to be lowfares leader in the
in the markets we operate. We are focused on our
cost space wherever we can to make sure we can
keep you know, delivering low fares. It's absolutely what we're
trying to do in New Zealand. We've been working really
hard as a team. I think, you know, we employ
over four hundred people over there to just make sure
that we're reliable so that people want to fly Jet

(01:03:09):
Star and I think what people are looking for is
great value and Jet Start. Really it's about offering lowfares,
being reliable, and also giving people choice in the way
they travel, so they can choose the extras if they want,
but they don't have to if they don't want, So
you've got that option. And I think we don't see
ourselves MIC is half an our line. We see ourselves
as a full air line, you know, offering a real choice.

(01:03:31):
We don't take for granted that Kiwi's every time they
travel have a choice of who they fly with so
we want to be in that in that choice consideration,
whether you're traveling for work or for leisure.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
You would concede though that you chery peck the roots
and you chery pick the roots that you think you
can make money on. That's fair, isn't it here?

Speaker 11 (01:03:49):
Any Absolutely absolutely, because we have had experience in the past,
so we've operated on some of the thinner roots and
we just were losing money, you know, And and it's
difficult with a strong national carrier you're competing against. But
we I mean, we definitely see room for more growth
over there. We're concerned about some of the cost pressures

(01:04:10):
over there, particularly Auckland Airport, but you know, we see
there's room for potentially us putting more aircraft over there.
We've had a lot of growth on the trans Tasmin.
We've got you know, three new routes launching a couple
of weeks to Hamilton and Dunedin, and we're excited for
more growth there. We've just got to make sure that
you know, we're getting the best cost environment that jet

(01:04:31):
stuck and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Keep Auckland Dewport aside. I don't excuse Auckland report as
far as I can work get no one likes Auckland Airport,
but cost pressures going. Are we doing something cost pressure
wise wrong in this country that needs to be attended to.

Speaker 11 (01:04:45):
Yeah, I mean I think there's a couple all things
we're working on. I think, you know, the airport costs,
particularly Auckland, as you say, are high. We think their
development is overdone. So it's good that it's you know,
the prices we're reduced following the Commerce Commissions report, but
we think it's still overspect and overdone. And I think
you've got to be really careful. You know, we've infrastructure
spend that you're spending the right amount. You know that

(01:05:08):
travel still remains affordable whilst delivering what you need. So
where we think New Zealand's tourism sector is still recovering,
we think there's more we can do with the government
around some of your fees. So we're working with the
government on how, you know, how we make sure that
New Zealand's tourism sector thrives like it should. I think
there's some disproportionate fees in place, and we want to

(01:05:28):
make sure that particularly the gateway between Australia and New
Zealand and some of that more short haul Pacific Island
travel is not disproportionately affected by fees compared to some
of the longer haul travel as well. So there's things
we're working on to try and make mark that environment better.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Okay, brief break more in the moment. Stephaniely Tully, who's
the Jetstar CEO with us out of Sydney this morning.
It's their team past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
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It by News Talks it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Be These talks will be coming up sixteen past eight it.
Stephanie Tully is the just our CEO. Just reputationally speaking,
stephan I don't expect you to necessarily comment on in
New Zealand, but you'll be well aware of how many
New Zealanders view in New Zealand at certain times. And
sometimes it's their fault and sometimes it isn't. Compare it
with Quantas who's gone through something similar. Our airlines just

(01:06:16):
easy targets for people to get angry with.

Speaker 11 (01:06:21):
And I think people are passionate about airlines. It's something
people love to do, is to fly and travel, and
therefore they love to talk about it. So I think
you know it happens I think you've just got to focus,
you know, on your own race, and we've been focusing
in New Zealand particularly on just being good and being
a good competitor and making sure that any history New

(01:06:46):
Zealanders have with the jet Star brand, we can prove
that we are a reliable, great offering and a choice.
So I think, I mean, I think it is just
something people love to talk about and you've got to
take not take that for granted.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
You would say that, wouldn't you, because you're the CEO.
But have you hand on heart genuinely gone through that.
It's in the past. JITs a bit unreliable. Not many
planes may turn up, might not.

Speaker 11 (01:07:11):
I think so if you look at our operational performance
like the last six months, we're pretty much equal to
any Zealand in fact, in much we were more reliable
than them and we had a really low cancelation ratear
I'm proud of everything everyone's done over there to just
be focused on it, and I think we see it
in our insights that you know, our brand has improved
and people are seeing it as a genuine choice. And

(01:07:32):
there's lots of commentary online I can see, for example,
for the next three months that we're usually around fifty
percent cheaper, and I think that's it's hard to ignore,
and it's a genuine option for New Zealanders and I think,
you know, with the precious people are feeling, it's it's
I think we've become a great alternative and a great
option to fly with it. And the reliability is much

(01:07:53):
stronger than it was historically. So we'll keep working at
that because you know, we know that's so important to
people when they're flying us.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Can you make money doing what you do? The reason
they asked that question as Emirates came out the other
day and they're making record profits for the third year
in a row. Quantas are making huge profits, Singapore making
massive profits. Is that is that a model based thing
or can any align if they do it right, make money?

Speaker 11 (01:08:17):
Yeah, you can, I think, I mean Jetster is on
track for a record result this year. And I think
you know, for us, it's harder because the margins are
thinner with low cost carriers, you've got to be really
focused on keeping your cost based low. But we also
you know, don't offer sort of all the bells and
whistles that cost money to airlines. So there's proof around

(01:08:38):
the world that that that both models, the full service
model and the lo cost model can be very successful.
And I think, you know, we were the first low
cost carrier into Australia. We are the only low cost
carrier in New Zealand, and I think it's you know,
I think it's there's been a lot of growth to
demand for that type of travel and we can. I mean,
I commute between Melbourne and Sydney over here, I see

(01:08:59):
every week people flying for the first time ever because
of Jetstar, and I think it's, you know, it's unlocked
travel for people that otherwise wouldn't be able to afford it,
which is just we're really proud to play that role
to be able well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Which is interesting because there's no shortage of reading from
major airlines who cannot spend enough money at the other
end of the plane front loading business and first and
upgrading you to cavigata and shows and massages, and there's
clearly money in that, there's margin in that, and you're
arguing your model works as well.

Speaker 11 (01:09:28):
Yeah, I think they both can. I see it working
for a dull brown carrier with Quantus, but the different
you've got to work on different things. I think for
Couannus it's about, you know, how do you deliver value
that allows allows the premium. For jet Star, it's how
do you manage your costs so you can keep fares
low which drives demand at this end of the market.
So I think you know, they're different business models, but

(01:09:50):
both can be successful if done well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
I know you didn't like the half airline. Well I'm
suggesting to you and you've seen it. Australia Quantus, Jet Star,
Virgin Rex is gone. Is that Australia. That's what Australia
can handle. Therefore, in New Zealand at any New Zealand
and a jit Star, that's about it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:10:08):
I mean, I think the thing you need to do
as airlines is balanced the demand for travel with the
supply of the airlines that provide that travels. So you know,
I think if you outstrip supply versus demand, that there's
going to be economic problems for airlines. So I think
you know they're not big countries, you know, and so

(01:10:29):
probably in New Zealand, two carriers feels right in Australia
similar but I think you know, we want to be
over there just a genuine second carrier and provide options
where we can, and we are looking Mike for growth
where we can as well, because we think there's there's
opportunity and if you look at it, you know trans Tasman,

(01:10:50):
you know there's opportunity for growth there. We think in
Pacific Island as well. So we'll keep looking, you know,
for opportunities to do that like we've done with christ
Church and Hamilton and as well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Great Stuff's definitely good to have you on the program.
Appreciate your time. Go well, Stiffane Tully, who is the
Jetstar CEO with us out of Sydney. This morning, eight twenty.

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you grant. Mike fly Jetstar often or it's cheaper. Never
had any delays or cancelations, so for us good value.
What a breath of fresh air didn't. Duck and Dive
answered the questions regionally, they need to reassess where they
could fly with their turboprop fleet and make a decent
go of it. I'm sure they have. That's what I'm

(01:12:40):
trying to explain is the cold hard reality. I mean,
we just we're five million. It's as simple as that,
if you don't think. And it's been tried many many,
many many many times before, from Sunny Air to the
Chatham's Air Air. Chatham's trying to pull out a Fuckatani
at the moment they can't make it work. What was
the guy's name from Hamilton who started his own airline

(01:13:02):
became a counselor whatever it's not. Yeah, couldn't do it.
And then there's no shortage of people who want to
give it a go. Can you ask the CEO will
Jetstar be coming to there?

Speaker 10 (01:13:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
If they look at a region and go there's money there,
they'll give it a crack. But they can't the same
way that Rex in Australia couldn't make it as a
regular as Q EW and Wilson You and Wilson Q.
As a regular business traveler, I shifted to jet Star
a couple of years ago. Could not ignore the price
difference anymore. Must say jet Stars delivered with good service.
So do you go then we come to a couple

(01:13:34):
of things in the Hospo area. One is dB Breweries,
who announced yesterday their profit is down. What I can't
work out, which brings me to my other hospital story
after the news. What I can't work out is their
profit down because people are drinking less beer or because
of the economy generally you drink less beer? Are you
drinking less beer because that's a health issue, a deliberate
issue on your part, and you've decided to spend less

(01:13:57):
money on alcohol, therefore you're not doing what you used
to do? Or would you love to drew some more
beer but you just can't afford to That's the part
I can.

Speaker 15 (01:14:05):
Do is they don't make enough stouts? Why is there
all these hazes everywhere? Where's the stout guys?

Speaker 13 (01:14:10):
Come on?

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Or what?

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
As I was about to say, where are the stouts?
Are they making the wrong sort of beers? Just from
left field beer? As we go to the news, Now
a couple of Hospot stories for you after the news
with more questions associated. The questions never end here on
the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
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The Mic Asking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed
to intrigue and use togs headb.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
For some reason, I'm reading about Teesley yesterday in Australia.
For some reason, Tesla in Australia monitor what car people
sell to buy a Tesla. They don't do it elsewhere
around the world, which I would have thought would be
one oh one. You want to know who your customers are,
where they came from, what sort of decisions they made.
Any In the US they do a bit, but the

(01:15:04):
other way round. So when you sell your Tesla, what
do you go and buy? Which I found slightly more
interesting than what you sell to get into a Tesla
in Australia. In America, the most popular car they once
they sell a Tesla, and there's a lot of that
going on for obvious reasons at the moment. They then
go buy an F one fifty Lightning, which is the

(01:15:24):
most extraordinary thing. The lightning part is an electric version
of the F one fifty, which is a gargantuan truck.
So you sell a smallish car to buy a gargantuine truck.
If you don't buy that, you buy a Cadillac Lyric,
which is a medium sized Cadillac or you buy a keya.
Now what brand of car in Australia do you sell

(01:15:47):
more often than any other brand to get into a Tesla?
And the answer is, go on, Sam, you gave me
the article, so you know the answers Toyota. Well, part
one of that is you didn't give me the article.
Part two is it's not Toyota. So it seems a

(01:16:09):
strange thing, an article you didn't give me. And then
with the wrong information, the answer.

Speaker 13 (01:16:13):
Has it changed? As he pushed print on that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
The answer is Master. They sell more Masters than anything
by themselves, taseless. See, this is what I deal with
in the production department, people who think they gave me
things that didn't and then they tell me the wrong thing,
and you wonder why the show is the way it is.
Twenty two minutes away.

Speaker 12 (01:16:29):
From nine International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace
of mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
I got you to print the article out, didn't I? Yes,
I did, under my instruction, but you obviously it's a
word even in there anyway, Roderick, good morning mate. The
trade deal is starmer a winner out of this? And
does anyone ask the question whether the British are better
off pre or after the deal? Or does no one

(01:16:57):
think about that stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
They do said about it, certainly the opposition things about it.
The truth is, nobody really knows whether we're better off,
whether it's a good deal or not. We do know
that we're worse off than we were in March. You know,
it's very straightforward. We think we think we're better off
than the EU. We think we've got a better were

(01:17:19):
we're going to have ended up with a better deal.
And we think too that as deals go. Yeah, we
don't sell many cars to America, you know, vanishingly small number.
So most of the stuff seems to be all right.
We're gonna have to We're gonna have to put up
with imported beef and chicken, the dreaded chlorinated chicken. But

(01:17:43):
I think that's only because people worry about it any
because I don't really understand what every other who's processing
plant does to chicken. So I think there's a bit
of ignorance around there. He seems to have done a
good deal, and Trump has said it's a good deal,
and it comes on the back I've been making a
good deal with India, you know, a five billion quid
trade deal with India, which is exactly the kind of

(01:18:06):
thing that you would have wanted as soon as we
left the EU, but was always held up, held up
for a number of reasons. It's not, at least the
fact that India continues to buy vast amounts to sell
vast amounts of weapons, buying vast amounts of oil rather
from Russia, which always put a spanner in the works.

(01:18:26):
I mean the other there are problems with the India deal.
It doesn't mean that we will be taking an Indian
labor at a cheaper cost than our own, which is
a real problem.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Yeah. The interesting thing, and we've talked about going back
to the local body elections and all that sort of stuff,
how does this land, Because presumably the theory is you
land some good trade deals, the economy grows, the economy grows,
the government's popular, you get re elected, et cetera. Juxtaposing
that and the pantsing he got in the local elections
presumably for being useless. So how does something like that

(01:18:56):
land with people that they go, oh, he's not as
bad as we thought.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
No, they more a couplet. There is absolutely nothing to
be gained from foreign affairs victories unless you've just won
a war. And even then, Mike, as Winston Churchill would attest,
even then, it's not mail done, you know, foreign affairs stuff.
It's what happens in your pocket. It's what happens. It's
what you see every day to day. It's the number

(01:19:20):
of potholes in the road, the number of trans woke
teachers in the classrooms, and the amount of tax taken
from your wages.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Yeah, exactly. The resetting of the relationship which is as
next port of call with Europe. Is that reversing bricks
or is he trying to walk a line that it's
not quite that it's something in between.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
Well, I suggest it is reversing bressive because he's told
us it isn't he's completely set for the last six
weeks that was in the past. We've made out decisions
where we're going to have to stick with it. But
I think there will be a loosening of various of
various things which which will cause a problem, probably because
of problem as well as Northern Ireland which still has

(01:20:02):
this separate kind of deal with the EU, which has
come out of it, you know, comparatively badly. So there
will be howling from the people who were most fervently
in favor of leave. But there is no doubt that
the kind of corrosive and unpleasant relationship we had with
you in the first five to six years of exit,

(01:20:26):
at least that has to end. You know, they are
our allies, they're our.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Friends, exactly. Hey, listen, just this, and because it fascinates me,
because of what we do here this business is the
so called reset of visas immigration. You're not going to
be able to hire foreigners in risk homes anymore. All
the stuff that was announced over the weekend. Who the
hell is going to work in a rist home if
you can't bring in somebody from overseas.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
Well, hopefully few people. I mean, the whole point is
to try to reduce the annual immigration level, and working
in a care home is not a skilled job. However,
it stands in sharp contrasts, I say, to the kind
of deal which we saw struck with India, which means
more Indians will be coming over. Perhaps they will be

(01:21:09):
working in the crehouse. So it doesn't make much sense
at the moment. And that is the other thing. Mat
Starman knows he has got huge problems with immigration migration,
and he's promising, you know, a drop, but there seems
to be no way as to how he could explain
how that's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
All right, fair enough, we'll see you Thursday. Roderick appreciate it.
Starm's house, by the way, his own house sort of
lit up in flames, loud bang. According to the neighbors,
holl Street was cordered off emergency cruise this early hours
of the morning. Tim past eleven, Tim pass one rather
the combing for evidence. Damage to the front. No one hurt.

(01:21:48):
He rents it out because as soon as he got
the job, of course, he moved into an apartment at
number ten, So the tenants will beyond the landlord, which
presumably is still him. Sixteen to two.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
The Likes read first full show podcast on iHeartRadio. Howard
By News talks at be.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Right thirteen to nine. Here's my question. So there's a
company called Little. This is the Hospow debate. So every
time we hear somebody falling over in Hospow, we go,
oh it's a sign. Other times, oh, these are difficult days.
Little and Friday was a successful operation. Three outlets in Auckland.
At their peak, they apparently employed seventy people, made five
million dollars a year, so you think they're doing all right?

(01:22:28):
They're all closed now. Now my summation is not a
little in Friday customer, but I know many people who were.
What they made was donuts and cakes. Now my argument,
and according to my wife, quite large donuts and cakes.
So here's my question. Are we moving away from that
sort of food? And therefore their story And you know,
I'm not criticizing them in any way, shape or form.

(01:22:48):
I'm just trying to point out the difference between a
broad base the economies in trouble. Therefore, we're not spending
money debate versus I can spend money, but I'm just
not spending it on donuts and cakes anymore, which then
brings us to the next one, which is what the
media this morning you're calling an iconic eatery called Ekemburger
in Wellington? Are they been going for the full six months? Now?

(01:23:11):
How you can become iconic in six months? I got
no idea. So that's more reported than anything else. Just
another really sad story about the demise of Cuba Street.
So what are they saying? Was the Eckenburger not really
that good of burger is doing burgers on Cuba Street
the problem or is that also part of the broad
based hospitality debate where we're not spending as much money

(01:23:34):
as we used to, or possibly a combination of all
of those things. See are there stories within stories? So
it's not hospit it's not necessarily the economy. It's the
story within the story. The same way the Brisco's warehouse
story is that Briscoes makes heaps of dough and keeps
breaking records the warehouse struggles. They both, broadly speaking, do

(01:23:56):
the same thing in the same environment, in the same economy,
and yet one has a story to tell and one doesn't.
You could probably do it to radio. How is it
some radio programs have a very large audience and make
a lot of money, and other radio programs don't have much.

Speaker 13 (01:24:10):
How long do you think it took you to become iconic?

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
It's a good question, Glenn. I reckon I crossed the rubicon,
which is how I'm referring to myself now. I crossed
the river, same thing. I crossed the Rubicon. I reckon
five years ago. I reckon there came a point where
people decided that love me or hate me, and can
I be honest, make no mistake, there is still plenty

(01:24:35):
of people that I'm not aware of that love me
or hate me. I'm here to stay.

Speaker 15 (01:24:42):
So it was longer than six months, though. Oh what's
the quickest anybody ever became an icon.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Oh that's a good question. That's a very very good question.

Speaker 15 (01:24:52):
Because it's just that when Max talked to Ryan earlier
on this Morning about Ickenberger.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Well, neither of them are iconic.

Speaker 15 (01:24:58):
No, no, but sounded surprised that Ryan had never been
to where it can be.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Well, he's never been to Wellington as far as I
know either. Have you listened to Ryan's show? He says
quite often, I'd never been there. I don't think. I
think Ryan has lived in his house and this studio
and also at TV three when he was there. I
think he's been to three places and those are the
only three places.

Speaker 13 (01:25:18):
So he's modeling. Has life on you very much like me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Night Away from Nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
The Mate Hosking, Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, News
Dogs head be.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
I don't have time to go through endsco. I have
to do that tomorrow because I've got questions around that
as well. Katie just texted said Ryan is from Wellington.
And Ryan texted and said Ryan is from Wellington. So
that's two people who know he's from Wellington. One of
witches himself. He just doesn't talk about it much. I
think he's embarrassed by it.

Speaker 15 (01:25:46):
Well, I don't think that nullifies You're not leaving the
house comments does it?

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Well? Have you just listened to a show? Listen to
I listened to the people go have you been on
a plane? Have you been to this place? Did you
go there? Neva? Does it?

Speaker 8 (01:25:58):
When?

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Did you guys know.

Speaker 13 (01:26:00):
From a place if you never actually sit outside the door?

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Good question, Glynn. They're too late in the day for
these sort of quality questions. Bring them in between the
seven and seven thirty. We'll increase our time spent listening
six minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Trending now with Chemist Warehouse Mayhem megasales.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
On Now, Oh that's good. Ikenberger's been around for years.
Just the new guy couldn't make it work, so he
bought it. It was already underway. He couldn't make it work,
So then the question is was he a bit useless?
No personal attack. I'm not Andrew of answering you. I'm
just saying if it had gone for years and then
suddenly it doesn't go what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Trending now with chemist Warehouse Mayhem megasales on now on Reddit?

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Okay, sending it to care Music on Reddit. Do you
know I've never been on Reddit? I'm like lying, Ryan
Bridge like that, I've never been on Reddit. I wouldn't
know how to do it. There's a sub stack somebody
just told me to read. They said, did you read this?
And I said, I don't even know where substack is.
I don't even know what subsect is. I don't know
where it is.

Speaker 13 (01:27:02):
Nobody's surprised to hear any of this time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Right, So I've never been on Reddit. I've been on
Ryan Bridges show though you know Ryan, he's from Wellington.
What's the dumbest idea? Probably class twenty minutes. What's the
dumbest idea you have that you'd nevertheless believe, if implemvented,

(01:27:24):
would make the world a better place. And there's what
they're saying on Reddit. Some of them are quite good. Actually,
leaders of all countries should pass an international exam created
by scientists and top brains of all fields. If they fail,
they're out. I'd go along with that. Actually, I quite
like that. If you don't use a turn signal, your
car doesn't turn that. No, I don't like that because

(01:27:46):
as much as I like the theory of that, idiots
would go straight and then crash.

Speaker 13 (01:27:50):
It's very confusing around roundabouts.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Exactly every two years you have to move to a
different country. So people don't get stuck in their way
of thinking. I would limit them to countries I would
like to go to, and of the one hundred and
ninety six countries in the world, I would be able
to go to probably two ban guns, bring back personal swords. Yeah,

(01:28:13):
I could probably live with that. Politicians should be forced
to wear jerseys covered in the lobby'st sponsor groups like
sports players and teams. Quite good. Then we get into
the slightly dumb ones paint all rooftops white to reflect
heat and warm places or black who absorb the light
and emit heat so you don't rely on heat pumps
as much.

Speaker 13 (01:28:34):
Don't they actually do that in some places in the world.

Speaker 15 (01:28:36):
Good, So have they even done my idea of you
know how we people push the button repeatedly on the traffic.

Speaker 13 (01:28:43):
Light because they think it's going to make it work.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Faster, what if it actually it did, And the same
with lists ten within five seconds, instant crossing. I love
that stuff. Required daily exercise, boom done. That's good. If
you're on welfare, you're employed by the state and they
can put you to work anywhere as long as you
qualified and physically able. Well, the qualified and physically able
the problem, and that's why we've got a welfare that's

(01:29:07):
why we got the sort of welfare situation we have.
But anyway, we've solved or attempted to at least talk
about some of the problems that have interested us this
morning over the last three hours, and we'll do it
again tomorrow from six as always, Happy.

Speaker 8 (01:29:20):
Days, Things that make your goal hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
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