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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've got more change coming to Auckland City's density rules.
In a nutshell, there's going to be a lot more
of it. Density that has height limits for buildings have
been increased, et cetera. Now Scott Cornwill follows these things.
He's with Greater Auckland. And as with the Scott Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
To you, Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I do worry about this sort of broad subject. One
because we're a national program and I don't want to
bore the rest of the country. But two also even
for people in Auckland. I mean that there's such a
dysfunctional mess these days. You can have meetings till you're
blue in the face. Do you think any of this
is ever going to happen?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, I mean it's pretty disappointing how long it's been taking.
I mean this started off in twenty twenty. It is
meant to come into effect sort of middle of twenty
twenty three. We're now only just now talking about doing
some more stuff two years later. Really frustrated by how
long this is all taking.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And what I know is reading a very good piece
over the weekend somewhere. It was on Walkworth in that
general area which is north of Auckland, which of course,
is booming. And the reason it's booming, Scott is because
because people like to live in areas like that, which
is not density. It's not downtown because no one wants
to be downtown, I mean, and that is a problem
in a nutshell, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I disagree that people don't want to be downtown. I mean,
you know, there's about forty thousand people who live in
the city center, and we reckon that if you you know,
let people build more homes and these kind of places,
you know, not force people, you know, just let people,
you know, make choices in their own lives that they'll
take a couple of these choices. And I think we've
been seeing that in Organs the last few years.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And so that's the up. It's an apartment and that's
the sort of lifestyle that you're looking to see in
the future.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, lifestyle is when I think about it. But you know,
a house is a house, right, it's there, you know,
nice to have a backyard, but you know, if you've
got a nice little park nearby something like that, it's
not actually radically different lifestyle. Do you reckon mean that
people are living like close to train stations, close to
infrastructure that they like, and they're able to get to
work easier, you know, less congestion, all those sort of
(02:00):
a lot of these things.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, exactly. So that sounds like a like a cool idea.
It's just hasn't sort of translated into the real world yet.
Where are all these railway stations. So you're telling me
that when the CRL's finished and you can live next
to the CRL, you pop on your train, you pop
downtown a couple of blocks, you go for your shop,
you eat out, and it's all utopia.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I mean not utopia. They'll sill. We have problems in
the world, but I think you know, for a lot
of people, that will make their life a lot easier.
And you know, when we think about the fact that
you know, over the last thirty years, we actually haven't
kept up the supply of housing to demand. You know,
basic you know, laws is a plant of arm and
tell us that when you don't make enough houses, the
price is going to arise. And so we need to
(02:40):
think about where we can put houses in a way
that integrates with infrastructure. And so for us, you know,
it's just if we've spent all this time building out
and you know, We probably need to do more of that,
but we also need to do the app peace to
really make sure that we can get board, housing affordabilities everyone.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
All right, well, let's bring you back and see when
it happens. If anybody makes it, The descis Usian, Scott appreciated.
Scott Corble, who's with Greater Awkland this morning. For more
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