Full Show Podcast: 09 June 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
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commercial and rural news togs d B.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Well, do you welcome today the new vis and O
precurrence of those already here, Insight into some later speeding
at some of our schools. Good news around our younger drivers,
got the PAM for a word. Our lads in the
commentary box and Richard arm and Steve Price are they're
offering the international insight as well. Pasking Monday morning, welcome
to it. Seven past six. Well, one of the Australian
dailies did a half year report for the NRL last week.

(00:31):
The same paper, by the way, wrote the Warriors off
at the start of the year. I placed a little
bit of weight on the Australian media generally when it
comes to league. They employ a lot of very knowledgeable
operators and league plays a big role in general sports
coverage there, so they take it seriously. They had us
at the start of the year winning seven games, as
in for the whole season, we were no good and
we would go nowhere, they said. Now. They didn't address

(00:53):
that in their half season report. They simply stated what
we've all seen. We are the real deal, and Saturday
Melli added to that. Of course, we started against the
Sharks well, scored well early and easily, and then the
game tightened up. The Sharks seemed to go up a gear.
We went to the half ahead not by much, and
it had been a good, tight first half by a
couple of excellent sides, very ruminious, and I thought actually
of last week's game, But then the second half we

(01:17):
killed them. At the halfway point of the season, ten wins,
not the seven that had been predicted. Once again, like
last week, the opponent was a good site. I thought
we faced the Panthers next then not a good site.
So after a buy and two more points, you would
assume the season marches on with more success. A lot
was made last week of Mitch Barnett, but it seems
there hasn't been a game where one, if not several
major players have been absent, and yet it doesn't seem

(01:39):
to have affected the overall result, Which is not to
undersell the Barnet factor, but it is to suggest we
look like a complete side with plenty of depth. Are
the halves Combo loving them? Surely? Harris Deavita Metcalf. I
mean they look as good as any in terms of
pace and cleverness. You can see why Metcalf has got
the Delian points he does. Currently we're top of the table.
You've seen that we're top of the table. Toppish aims

(02:00):
and points for and against and all that sort of stuff.
But as the Australian paper said, and they're right, anything
now less than the top four finish is going to
be not just a disappointment but unacceptable. We've worked hard
to be where we are and we deserve at least
a shot at the spoils that come with a big time.
Thirteen played, ten wins, twenty two points. This very much.
This is our.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
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Speaker 2 (02:26):
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Speaker 3 (02:30):
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Speaker 4 (02:36):
You are not welcome here.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
This in part is Washington and Tom the borders Holman
overriding the local authority of Newsom and Bass.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
They're gone to moblazer. Guess right, we're already head of
the game. We were already moblazing. We're gonna bring National
mcguarrett in tonight. We're gonna continue doing our job. We're
gonna push back on these people and we're going to
four to a.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Low county sheriffs in the middle of it.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
We will protect your right to peacefully protest, but we
cannot and will not tolerate violence or destruction of property.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Big girchinwag going on a monarca this morning, the bit
worried about the environment. The princes popped in for a
word for.

Speaker 7 (03:11):
The future of our planets, for the future generations.

Speaker 8 (03:15):
We must listen to the words of so David Attenborough.
If we save the sea, we save our world.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
In back in Britain, the scrap over the winter fuel
payment backdown rage designed with the Tories claiming people could die.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
There are pensioners who are unable to hate their home
when it was really cold, and people do tie hyperthermia,
don't they.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Of course the backdown details aren't exactly at yet, which
is problematic to give you the government.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
These issues are going to be dealt with in the
run up to the autumn where these decisions are going
to be taken and announced.

Speaker 7 (03:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Finally, a little bit of sports history in the state's
got a federal judge signed off on a deal to
change college sports model from being basically amateur to college
is now paying their players. Laws of the Suppliers to
deal started and live in years ago. It was actually
implemented four years ago, and now revenue sharing is going
to go to everyone. Apparently each college will share up
to twenty million with athletes in two point seven billion

(04:08):
will be paid t thousands of former players over the
next decade. Bit of a snapfoo. As always, some states
have different rules and they will likely appeal this ruling,
and the NCAA is also pushing to have all the
rules under one nationwide rule book, so we'll see where
it all ultimately goes. Mean ten years of the world
in nineteen pay rolls good job number in America will
detail that for you with Greg in a moment. And

(04:29):
the Central Bank in China and this is worth watching.
They're buying gold. While they're buying gold, well, I think
we can probably work out why they're buying gold. And
they've been buying gold the Central Bank for the seventh
straight month. They now have about two hundred and forty
one billion dollars worth of gold sitting there. You know
what they say about Troubled Times. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2 (04:55):
AB Now the Indian Central Bank had to count their
repo rape now stands at five point five. Russia slightly
different story. Bank of Russia. They've gone from twenty one
down to twenty. So a couple of cats Central Newspall
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(05:16):
Morning to you, Oh, Musk and Trump. Are you can't
buy texts to a show like that?

Speaker 7 (05:22):
You can't.

Speaker 9 (05:23):
So the Brahmans, it's gone skip the sibling rivalry stage, Mike,
it's gone straight in, all out feud. It's Melton down spectacular,
very public fashion. Chobby Wheat for Tessa, looks you up
around about four percent on Friday, but down almost fifteen
percent over the course of the week. So yeah, for
the backstory of those that don't know. Musk has said

(05:44):
that the presents claiming went crazier to being asked to
leave Doge was a lie. Trump's tears are going to
cause a recession the second half of the year, he said.
Without him, trumpet have lost the election. He's now looking
at potentially supporting others in the midterms. Trump, he says
he's disappointed with said their relationships over. So look, it's
been a volidil ride, hasn't it for the shar Since

(06:04):
the election they surged. Everyone thought Trump's biggest supporter would
gain favors. I mean, you'd fair enough. I guess Mustard
donate around at two hundred fifty million dollars to his campaign.
And then he got distracted by Doze and there was
a backlash and the vandalism against teaser cars by the public,
and the tariff situation. Trading partners stopped buying Tesla's, So yeah,

(06:25):
appears it's all come back to buy it. So Trump
said he's going to cut his government contracts, say billions
of dollars, and Muscow I loved Harry Channel Clint East
from Dory how he said, don x go ahead, make
my day. And then he's also now got this problem.
It's spun out to the International Space Station. So musk
greekns he's going to decommission the drag and spacecraft and

(06:47):
they used to shuttle astronauts, so not ideal. And ironically,
Trump said that he didn't think was a good idea
that musk ran NASA, so and it's obviously all sorts
of other allegations around and being impeached and Epstein and
so on. But yeah, Trump doesn't seem too by the
does he, but she is in social media business. They
were down last week as well, and down nearly forty
percent year today. I suppose for Tesla, you know, lots

(07:07):
of damage for a company obviously that did have a
lot of expectation priced and a bit of a fun fact,
they're still up twenty thousand percent since twenty ten, so
they might need to deliver and maybe on the self
driving obviously that's long away. And also Mike, this week
we've got robotaxis all launching at Austin, Texas, so stay

(07:29):
tuned there.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, Then we got the jobs and that was a
pretty solid number, wasn't it.

Speaker 9 (07:33):
It was pretty solid. Obviously, Elan's been having a pop
at the economy. The OCD downgraded forecast. We had a
weak private seat to pay rolls print. There's a bit
of nervousness around those job numbers, but in the end
it was like, you know, what's what's to worry about
the US economy? That added one hundred and thirty nine
thousand jobs last month. That was above these of it's
for one hundred and twenty five k. Was down from
the revised one hundred and forty seven thousand and April,

(07:55):
but pretty solid. You look at the unemployment rate that
held at four point two percent. Again, Mike, healthcare driving
those numbers, sixty two thousand, that's around about twenty thousand
above the average of that sector over the past year.
At leisure in hospital that chipped in nearly forty eight thousand.
There the government that actually did lose twenty two thousand jobs,
so we do know about what the dose do teams doing,

(08:17):
so obviously that's an olympic.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
But overall pretty solid.

Speaker 9 (08:19):
We could pay that was up a little bit more
than expected zero point four percent during the month, but
overall just sort of shows that the US labor market
is standing tough in the face of those recent shocks.
There were a few trouble spots, so Mike, just look
at the revisions and sometimes these are overlooked. But April
was revised down by thirty thousand, marched down by sixty

(08:39):
five thousand to one hundred and twenty thousand. Also, there's
this ongoing tilt from full time to part time. So
full time declined by six hundred and twenty thousand, part
time rows by.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Thirty three thousand.

Speaker 9 (08:50):
So it's not awesome the milk and honey, but yeah, overall,
pretty resilient job markets holding together. I'd say as well
that the feed won't be any rush to cut rates
when it next week, and given the inflation, a certain
trade situation.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
All right, back home, lawyer is at dawn, that's right.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
Hate speaking of feuds, Skysity's also taken the gloves off,
so they've launched proceedings against Fletchers over the International Confucian set.
As it is well known, it has been problematic. It's
nearly six and a half years behind the contractually agree
delivery date of January twenty nineteen. And you heard that right,

(09:27):
So yeah, are saying it's just taken far too long
to bill.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
They've tried to resolve what with Fletchers has scarcity.

Speaker 9 (09:32):
They say they're pursuing damages of over three one hundred
and thirty millions. So Fletchers, they've come out and said
they'll defend the claims. They said they're recording further provisions.
But this is a big number number. Don't make no
bones about it. They're pursuing insurance recoveries having a poppet
contractors in relation to that fire. But you'd have to

(09:54):
think this is the last thing that Fletches once. Mike
obviously got problems with the pipe issues in Western Australi.
That really would think one long protracted legal dispute. So yeah,
you'd have to think they want to sett all this.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Out of court.

Speaker 9 (10:08):
More positive news, Mike, the hand over the building does
appear to be on track for the second half of
the year, opening in February twenty twenty six. A bit
of a delay. Sheers on Friday, Fletches down two and
a half percent, sky City down one percent.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Give me some more numbers.

Speaker 9 (10:22):
Yeah, so the day I had a good down Friday
up one point one percent for two seven six two.
That's FORO and forty three points high s P five
hundred up one percent, Nazu c Cup one point two percent,
what's one hundred point three percent in the UK? NICKI
in Japan up half percent as well, A six top
two hundred that was down point three percent. Aussie INZADEX
fifty we were just slightly lower down point one percent

(10:44):
twelve five sixty three goal down forty two dollars threey
three hundred and ten ounce oil up a dollar twenty
sixty four spot fifty eight. Just in the currency markets,
the keepers look against the US sixty point one, slightly
soft against the austrainer ninety two point seven. Also the
Wi pound forty four point four, and we're up half
percent against the Japanese n eighty seven point one. Just

(11:05):
this sweek locally visit arrivals, card spending, manufacturing PMI overseas,
got some more innings dribbling out. We've got Oracle and Adobe,
Chinese trade data, use inflation, consumer confidence, and how about
we get some trade updates.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
It'll be good. Okay, I'm good on you might catch up,
so appreciate it. Grieg Smith Devon Funds Management, Pasky thing
numbers from Disney. I'm reading about over the weekend as
and what Disney is in the company. They're domestic as
in America. Their domestic theme parks generate sixty seven billion
dollars an annual economic impact eacha sixty seven billion dollars.
That's a big business. They employ four one hundred thousand

(11:40):
people in America six twenty one. There's a fun fact
for Monday, six twenty one. We're at the used talk ZBO.

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Speaker 2 (11:53):
At b SOB six twenty four. Very sad to report
we've just confirmed the passing the former All Black stew
Wilson will talk more about that updrate with the lads
in the commentary box. Mike Dumb question, please, with China
buying all that gold, where do they keep it? Or
is it traded on paper? Now, they'd keep it. Most
people buy gold at that level. Keep it singapause A
repository is telling you the other day, an increasing repository
for tangible gold for all sorts of people around the world. Lululemon, now,

(12:17):
how do you do this? So Lulu Lemon exercise gear
things didn't go well when they reported late last week
on Friday, shares it down twenty three percent. Their guidance
has gone down. So what are they planning to do
to deal with that? They're planning to put their prices up.
So a company is not doing particularly well plans to
put their prices up? How does that work? By the way,

(12:37):
a judge, this is the Harvard thing on Trump and
try to ban people from applying to Harvard from offshore.
A judge stepped in over the weekend and said, we'll
just put that on hold for now. So plenty going
on in America. Richard Arnold shortly six twenty.

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Matthew mcconaugheyes, back been sixty years. We find them in
the while fires of California. It's called lost Bus. He's
a bus driver and he has to save a group
of school children.

Speaker 10 (13:08):
It's another dry and windy day and paradise.

Speaker 11 (13:14):
There's a situation devolving at Poderosa Elementary.

Speaker 10 (13:20):
There twenty three kids were stranded.

Speaker 12 (13:25):
In the area.

Speaker 10 (13:25):
That can pick them up?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
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Speaker 12 (13:31):
These kids up?

Speaker 7 (13:43):
There was him breathing heavily at the end.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
There, okay. America. Ferrera is also in that one. It's
based on journalist Lizzie Johnson's book Paradise One Town Struggles
to Survive in American Wildfire. That sounds very cheap and
once over likely to me. This doesn't sound like something
I can recommend. It's on Apple TV, so we don't
even know when it's out. For goodness sake, Sinner's serving
to stay alive. In the fifth he's five three down,

(14:06):
so if he wins, he we five four. But Elcarez
will serve for the match, and you know my feelings
on Sinner, so I hope you loses. Meantime, Fox has
not started well in Canada. In fact, he's started so
poor he's fallen off the leaderboard that I'm looking at,
So you know, a little bit to go, so let's

(14:27):
not give up on him. But you know things, things
aren't as flash as they might have been. About half
an hour ago, teachers in spending order to general had
a bit of a look around. Some of this isn't
our public schools, and there's some weird spending going on
in terms of personal expenditure. You'd go, what on earth's
going on there? So we'll ask a few questions around that.
That is, after the news we're a news talk.

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Speaker 2 (15:10):
News togs had been ugly when parts of the lay
at the moment with the National Guard we'll get the
update with Richard Arnold short. They may time back here
at twenty three to seven order to general support into
school spending rays a few question in some schools. Turns
out I've been spending tens of thousands of dollars on
things like parties and private cars. Chris Abercrombie is president
of the Post Private Teachers Association and as well as
Chris morning to you, good morning. Are there rules around this,

(15:32):
good clear, clean rules that have been broken or is
it all a bit fluid?

Speaker 13 (15:37):
It can be a bit fluid. There are some, you know,
the rules that should be followed. There are some rules
about stuff, but some of these things are a wee
bit fluid.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yes, okay. So breen Bay College was the example given
over the weekend, ten thousand, six hundred and seventy one
dollars on a leaving party. I mean, is it fluid
enough for that or is that ridiculous?

Speaker 13 (15:52):
Well, there's up to the school to decide that. There's
some of the things about South Government schools that order
to make recommendations around it, but the school they feel
that's appropriate can do that.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Okay. So where does that money come from? In what budget?
Is it and what expectation generally would there be on
what it's spent for.

Speaker 13 (16:10):
So it could be donations, it could be ops, grant,
it could be locally raised funds, it could be many
ways that money comes in. And it should be about,
you know, improving educational outcomes for young people, but also
about recognizing the skill set of teachers. One of the
other ones was about a car. That's not an unusual

(16:30):
thing in schools. I mean, I've worked at a school.
We had a school car that we drove places for
professional development and meetings, et cetera, to save one taking
their own car. So some of these things that are
sort of slight beat up, some of them probably needed.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
How you would defend maybe the party you wouldn't.

Speaker 13 (16:48):
Yeah, And I think about the jackets as well. That's
not an unusual thing to have jackets for teachers, for
doing professional for doing duty at lunch times, for school trips,
for sports squadmens, et cetera. It's not an unusual thing
for schools that have happened. So some of these things
I think probably a bit of a beat up some
of them. Maybe schools need to have a.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Reflection and when you get a report like this, does
a top down message go around to people saying, hey,
here's a few examples. We're a bit worried about. Let's
tighten things up or do we just carry on as per.

Speaker 13 (17:20):
There'll be definitely some discussions. There'll be three reminders from
the school Boards Association about expectations about the rules. Some
of these things probably would have been within the rules.
They just didn't follow the rules, if that makes sense.
So they have to get something called concurrence from the Ministry.
They probably just didn't do that part when they should.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I have Okay. The other thing, Ministry of Education grants
of up to twelve thousand dollars six points something million
dollars to five hundred odd schools for twenty three and
twenty four. Principles were able to get up to six
thousand dollars each. Is this a thing that's been going on,
But it's one of those funds you can do with
whatever you want.

Speaker 13 (17:54):
Yeah, So for at the start there was very little
guidance about that fund. So it was effectively Principles to
do is a see sat about their well being, and
then there was some guidance that came out later on
about it. So there was a bit of a lag
and the rules on that one.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Was that the Labor Government Treat yourself campaign post COVID
was that that one.

Speaker 13 (18:13):
A little bit of that. Yeah, so there was a
little bit of there, but there was also supporting principles
in their well being and professional development, so there was
some options available to them. But there wasn't any rules
about it at the start, but then rules came out
about it later on.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Chris, good to talk to. You appreciate it very much,
Chris Abert Crombie. The breen Bay College ten thousand dollars
A further five thousand, six hundred spent on jackets for staff.
The jackets a thing. So if you're a teacher, you
go to work and you're expecting to stand the rain
at crossing time, is it your responsibility to have a
jacket or is it the school's responsibility to provide you
one twenty four thousand bream Bays seem to have been

(18:48):
highlighted over the weekend. The principal justifies the twenty four
hundred and twenty six dollars on gifts and party underpins
the school's values of Manati Tonga nineteen minutes away from
Selasking Richard Arnold stateside for you very shortly. Just to
wrap up on the Warriors. This is what they said.
This is the Sydney Morning Herald their third currently they
I mean it's all technical. I think they're first. They've

(19:11):
got the same number of points as everyone else at
the top of the table. Anyway, Metcalf's got thirty one
delim points leads the race currently. They say Lekahalissima is
the surprise package of the season so far. There are
genuine chants of winning all six of their remaining home games.
They pick up a few victories on the road, they'll
be right up at the pointy end in the top

(19:32):
four come finals time. The prediction is anything less than
a top four finish and a home playoff would be
a surprise slash disappointment for fans across the ditch. And
I think that's a fairly fair assessment. And I would
have hoped the Sydney Morning Herald would have also included
an apology for at the beginning of the season saying
they will win seven and no more for the entire

(19:53):
season and come about last because they were about as
wrong as you can get on that nineteen to two.

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getting dash advice asking Mike's also known that schools use
the maintenance money for these functions, not for the school property.

(21:08):
Thank you you and Mike. The ten thousand for the
leaving party may have been for a teacher serving forty
five years and had a massive positive influence on the community.
If so, he she deserves a knighthood, not just a
small leaving parties. T is tim Kay, a small leaving party.
You're mixing an interesting circle.

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Speaker 2 (21:30):
Richard Arnold Morning, morning mate. Once again, the streets of
La not looking so flash Well.

Speaker 14 (21:36):
Actually it's pretty quiet right now, but armored military vehicles
carrying National guardsmen are moving into the place on orders
of Trump. Some two thousand rifle carrying troops are being
deployed to Los Angeles as the Trump team is ramping
up its immigration rates. Los Angeles has about a third
of its population born outside this country. Hundreds of thousands
of people are undocumented. Trump has said the FEDS would

(21:58):
go after the worst of the worst. He calls them
hardened criminals. Well not exactly how this is playing out.
He is a couple of cases of recent days in
Milford up in Massachusetts, students left their classes the other
day to show support for a kid, Marcello Silver. He
is an eighteen year old high school honor student who
was detained by ICE immigration agents who arrived in three

(22:19):
unmarked cars as this teenager drove his volleyball teammates to
sports practice. This team was born in Brazil had lived
in this town since he was five years old. He
is also a member of the school band. Many students
marched in their gowns from their school graduations who joined
hundreds of others in the town to protest the other
day outside the town hall. Meantime, in San Diego, at

(22:40):
the city's major recreation area of Balboa Park, which was
the site of a World expo back in nineteen fifteen,
the ICE agents turned up at a local Italian restaurant.
Most restaurant workers in California are Hispanics. Everybody knows that
when the ICE agents were spotted, local San Diego confronted
the ICE agents, who were in full military tactical garb,

(23:01):
and shouted shame, shame, as the FEDS arrested for workers
and led these pizza makers and buster makers off in handcuffs.
So now it's the turn of LA where the ICE
agents arrested more than one hundred people this weekend amid
more protests when they turned up in a mostly Latino
community and also at a building supply store where undocumented
laborers look for work, as they do at every such

(23:24):
hardware store in this state. That is the California way,
but not so much this. Yeah, flash bang grenades were
fired by the agents as the protest grew. As this
whole thing developed, peace cool.

Speaker 15 (23:37):
We're here to speak up against the injustices we're seeing
in the world, and that's why we're here.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
I with it.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Most of the protasts has.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Been pretty three s four, being pretty inactive beeing in
support of people unlikely being detected.

Speaker 14 (23:51):
You can hear the car horns from those supporters driving by.
Some people were unwittingly injured.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
There was a woman and her young daughter.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
She was around thirteen.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I kept in touch with them, and as we speak,
she's in the hospital.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Because that's your guys, bom hitter right.

Speaker 14 (24:06):
In the face, says another bystander in this particular situation.

Speaker 9 (24:10):
Instead of them peacefully telling us to back up. They
just started papers fraying us.

Speaker 16 (24:15):
There's a lot of women out there that have tapers ray.

Speaker 14 (24:17):
And another in this same spot.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
Came out and wanted to see what was all the
commotion and sure, indeed there were ICE agents.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Kaboom.

Speaker 7 (24:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (24:28):
People chanted against the ICE agents as they were doing.

Speaker 7 (24:32):
All of this.

Speaker 14 (24:33):
They said, shame, shame, las make Hearen Bass says all
this we're not targeting criminals, but was simply, in her mind,
provocation that was unneeded.

Speaker 17 (24:43):
This is the first time this has happened in our
city like this. We know ICE has been here, but
it's been for targeted arrests. This was just mass chaos
and it sows a sense of chaos in our city
and a sense of terror, and it's just an acceptable
At the.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
White House, Trump aged.

Speaker 14 (24:59):
Stephen Millers says the protesters are part of a quote insurrection.
A Defense secretary Hegseth said fully, our marines are on
full alert and might be deployed as well, and speaking
Mike Johnson was pressed about this a short time ago.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I don't think that's heavy handed.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
I think that's an important Senate marines into the streets
of an American city is heavy handed.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
We had to be prepared to do what is necessary.

Speaker 14 (25:20):
California, as Governor Gavin Newsom calls it all deranged quote
unquote Trump's Homeland chief Christine Noame the one who shot
her dog because it was badly behaves.

Speaker 10 (25:29):
Is their vehicles being burned, flags being burned in the street,
and molotov cocktails being thrown. Governor Newsom has proven that
he makes bad decisions. The President knows that he makes
bad decisions. And that's why the President chose the safety
of this community over waiting for Governor Newsom to get
some sanity.

Speaker 14 (25:46):
A lot of politics here. Trump posted quote great job
by the National Guard in Los Angeles. Well, he posted
that praise for the national Guard when the national Guard
hadn't even arrived yet.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
All right, Wednesday, Richard Landsteed. So just quickly they had
their first day. But this is hard to believe. In America,
twenty eight states their first ever nationwide coordinated crackdown on
retail crime. All the usuals, one hundred jurisdictions, thirty retails,
you know, your home depots, Macy's, target, all that sort
of stuff. Retail crimes through the roof up ninety three
percent in the last handful of years, and in dollar

(26:16):
terms up ninety percent. Now more importantly, this particular point
of time they've gone to and this had changed in
March for reasons I don't understand. Fifth set of a
Grand Slam French Open, El Caraz fights back. They go
to six all I'm expecting it to go to well

(26:36):
the way it used to go advantage. They're going for
a tiebreaker, now ten point tiebreaker a men's Grand Slam tournament.
What's happened to the world? Will you settle something this
large with a ten point tiebreaker.

Speaker 12 (26:52):
Which Alcarez is dominating at the moment.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
To me, he's up three nil. Why was Agasy looking
so worried? Agacy looked deeply worried to see on Sinner's side,
and if he is, that worries me as well, because Sinner.
We all know Sinner's record. Hope he loses. Night Away
from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
The Make Asking Breakfast with a Vida Retirement Communities news
togs Head be disappointing.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Agassi says he just likes watching the game, but Sinner
has his heart. I think less of him. Ten K
Mike Astronomical on a leaving party. When you don't have
to pay for a venue. It's a lot of catering.
Speaking of which, see the Reserve Bank Governor. And I'll
come back to this later in the program. The Reserve
Bank governor. We still don't know why he quit. Adrian

(27:37):
Orr and the Herald's been chasing it for ages and
they throw the Official Information Act. They had a deadline
come and go. I'm reading over the weekend and the
Reserve banks still aren't coughing the information we want, which
is just basic information, like why the guy quit? Anyway,
Adrian Ow's leaving party with six and a half thousand dollars,
So how come a teacher as glorious as that teacher
may be, it's ten thousand dollars. That's acceptable. We're a

(27:59):
six in half thousand bar a Reserve bank comment? Is
it because Adrian was no good? Is that the problem? Anyway?
More later with the pronems five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
The ins and the outs. It's the fizz with business fiber,
take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Ten point tiebreaker. I mean, what what a week need?
Spineless way to finish a grand slam? Nintendo switched to
news part of our ongoing Nintendo Switch to coverage. First
twenty four hours they sold over three million, breaks the
record from twenty thirteen. At the PlayStation four sold one
million in twenty four hours, set to smash the all

(28:37):
time record for two month sales considered well, the PS
four and the PS five four point five million. It'll
go through that forecast to sell twenty million in the
first year alone. So she's hot, But there is a
way to go. What I hear you asking, what are
the world records? What are the greatest numbers? Where where
are those sales?

Speaker 12 (28:53):
At?

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Nintendo DS one hundred and fifty four million units, Nintendo
Switch one hundred and fifty two million, Nintendo WEE one
hundred and one million. It's a lot of Nintendo, a
lot of gaming consoles, a lot of money spent on
sitting on your ass on the sofa game that sort

(29:16):
of stuff. This visa thing on what does it mean?
So you get to bring your parents here for five
and five So the coup of five years you get
to apply up another five so maximum teeneous. What happens
after ten? They've sort of got to go home? How
many people are we actually dealing with? The criteria is interesting.
You need to have some stability around health and finances.

(29:37):
Exactly what does that mean? So we'll get some fine
detail around that, some good news around our young drivers.
They're behaving themselves better than they used to, which I
suppose is encouraging the Prime Minister, of course enough to
rate in the commentary box another ten point tiebreaker in
the French what's going on there?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Use this next year, use opinion and everything in between.
The Mike Hosking with the Defender actor the most powerful
defender ever made, and use Togstead being past.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Have another immigration mode from the government. Parents of residents
or citizens will be able to apply for a multi
five year visa criteria good finances, good health, and at
least the year's worth of private medical insurance. Cabucati Armstrong's,
the owner of into Insed. Immigration is Beck with Acadie
Morning Morning, Mike. Is this a big deal? How many
people are involved in this? Roughly?

Speaker 12 (30:24):
Do we know.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
This is a big deal for people who who want
their parents to be here for sure? How many? It's
very difficult to know. They're about ten thousand expressions of
interest currently in a pool for residents for their parents,
but that this would this basically would reach a wider
number than that because the thresholds are lower.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Okay, so would this just be more people coming in
for a longer period of time or the same number
of people coming in for a longer period of time.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I think it will be the same number or actually fewer.
I mean, if you basically, we have currently various offerings, right,
We've got general visitor visas, we have specific parent grandparent
visas which are available at the moment, but they don't
you can't stay for as long. So yeah, it's the
same sort of pool of people. Yeah, and then but

(31:16):
this particular visa will actually be fewer than those are
currently eligible for, say the three year visa, because it's
got some tougher requirements.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Those those requirements the finances, the health Do we know
what they are wor they announced yesterday?

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, they were an announced. So basically the finances are
there's three ways you can meet them and they're all
you only have to meet one of them. So either
your sponsor here in New Zealand is earning enough, or
you yourself earning enough, or you have a bit of
a nest egg we're talking. You know, they're not minimal thresholds.
So if you're wanting to sponsor one parent, you've got

(31:52):
to be earning one just the median wage thirty three
dollars sixty six. It's not bad, it's attainable.

Speaker 13 (31:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
And the helling is that a major or not?

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Well?

Speaker 3 (32:03):
I mean, obviously the concern when you're making this kind
of visa is how to protect the system, how to
help people reunite, but also how to protect the system.
We've got a stretched health system, so trying to get
that balance right is difficult. But I think it's you know,
with the insurance that's going to take the edge off
a whole lot of this. It's going to be the
first well no, sorry, the second visa that we have

(32:26):
that requires insurance.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, that's the word the future. As far as I
can work out. Having said that, this seems to me
to be an ultruistic move. In other words, it's not
about skills or labor or anything like that. It's just
a sort of it's the nice thing to do, is
it fear or not?

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Well?

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well, I think the government's view is more it is that,
but it's also hey, look, if we want to attract
skilled migrants, you know, there's a lot of them out
there that want to be able to have their parents
come for extended visits. And you know, New Zealand's not
just a skip across the ditch, is it.

Speaker 9 (32:57):
No?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
For some people, it's a twenty four hours journey or more. So,
you know, being able to have your parents here for
that period is going to be significant for some people.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
All right, Katie, nice to have you on the program.
Is almost Caddy Armstrong, who's the owner and principal consultant
of into in zid Immigration. Ten minutes past seven. More
detail on last week's mass internet and radio outages in
the capitol. So you can blame it. Turns out the
HMAS canbra as in the warship the Australian Naval ship
arrived in town and the internet went out. The intelligence
expert Paul Buchannan's back, Well, there's pull morning to.

Speaker 12 (33:27):
You, good mar Mike.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
How does that happen?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Ah, that's the million dollar question. Apparently they were using
a commercial shared free broadband spectrum for their navigation radar.
It's right there raises some serious questions. But what it
did as they cruised down the west coast of the
North Island, they produced rolling blackouts of the five giggerhearst network,

(33:58):
the wireless network as well as various radio stations. And
as they came into the Cooks straight then they started
blacking out the upper part of the South Island. And
so the question begs a why were they on a
commercial band given that that's the command ship of the

(34:18):
of the Australian Navy, that's the most important ship in
their navy. And sure they were coming here in a
ceremonial meet and greet. Sure they may have been in
our territorial waters and didn't really expect that, you know,
an adversary would be trying to track them. But let's
just say that operational security was lacking, and it may

(34:40):
be due to a very simple fact. It may be
that someone simply put in the wrong frequency as they
came down, because you know, just the rating a guy
sitting in a chair on the bridge put in, you know,
plugged in one decimal number wrong and they got onto
this bandwidth. What I found interesting is that the New
Zealand Defense Forces don't want to bar this. They said

(35:03):
they contacted the Australians. The Australians took care of it,
and the stories see you later. All questions are being
referred to the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Enterprise, which
it turns out manages this bandwidth, you know, this shared
commercial bandwidth, and I think, you know, there may be

(35:26):
more to this. Let's say, for example, if the warship
was actually testing critical infrastructure cyber defenses, which the GCSB
does just to see if they're running holes in the system,
vulnerabilities and that, and they're friendly so they can tell us, okay,
we're finding this sort of stuff. And the internet providers

(35:48):
basically said, this shows our vulnerabilities. We had to go
to backup generators and automatic switches to close down the
network because we were afraid it was going to interfere
with air flights. So there's more questions than answers. But
in the scheme of things, well, probably was human error

(36:08):
by a relatively low ranking sailor, and other than egg
on their face, not much harm was done.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
It only mate, nice to talk to you, Paul bukenan
am I are you laughing with me? It's just like,
of course it was fat fingers syndrome. They call it
in the markets. Thirteen past seven pasking Michael Tiebreaker. To
be fair, they've been playing for five and a half hour,
so come on, these are professional athletes for goodness sake,
it's what they make their living doing. Mike, and what
about all the people over all the years that have
gone to five six plus plagued to advantage? Why we

(36:36):
suddenly softer these days? Mike Sinner's coach is Darren Cahill,
who was Agacy's coach, which might explain why Agacy ah Yeah,
fair enough, Mike, I'm a public service were servant. We
get a maximum five hundred contribution depending on how long
we've worked up to thirty five ish years, and rightly so,
why should other parts of the public service get twenty
times that? These are all very good questions Full teen pass.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
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Speaker 2 (37:04):
Check this out that Australian Mike the warship was using
approved radio frequency for use in New Zealand. The broadband
networks use parts of that network and their equipment is
designed to use it if it detects radar, so the
wireless ISPs know this is a risk. It's in the
wireless standard, so the ship may maybe did not need
to have it on but nonetheless it's not in the wrong.
Another one it was the weather radar. Nothing unusual. It's

(37:26):
known that they transmit on five gigahertz channels, and if
you use those channels for Internet, you accept there may
be interference from other users which may affect your connection.
The wireless internet service providers should know better than to
use those channels and should instead use license spectrums. Straight
from the Engineering Department. Fantastic seventeen past seven to the roads,
good news on our habits behind the wheel. New data

(37:47):
from AA shows a forty percent decrease in traffic offenses
by young drivers compared with the decade ago.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Dylan Thompson is the AA Road Safety spokesperson and as
with us, Dyllan, Morning morning, Mike, Praise the Lord. Good
news about young people who would have thought, eh.

Speaker 8 (38:01):
Oh, it's great to be actually able to talk about
some good news in this regard. So yeah, our Research Foundation,
we just did an update on a study that we
did about a decade ago looking at youth traffic offending,
and actually a decade ago when we did the first one,
it showed there's been a good decline, and when we
came back ten years later, it has dropped even more so.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Ten years ago we were getting better and twenty years
now on we're laughing.

Speaker 8 (38:29):
We are doing fantastically well actually in terms of bringing
down offenses by the young drivers, especially around drunk and
drugged driving, which is fantastic to see. But it's one
of those good news. But because even though we're seeing
improvements in the crash rates and we're seeing less young
people cooled on our roads, that has improved as well,

(38:51):
it's still really high compared to other countries, and they
still crash and die at about a fifty percent higher
rate than people are aged over two in New Zealand.
So we need to do more than just enforcement if
we want to get those crash rates down even further.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Overall, we're down forty one percent, drinks down fifty eight percent,
seat belts are down fifty two percent. Those deaths ninety
of them. So from memory, we it's three hundred and
fifty sixty something deaths a year on the road, isn't it?
Is that about right roughly?

Speaker 8 (39:20):
Well, it has been. Last year we were down below
three hundred for the first time on the decade.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
So at ninety is my point. At ninety for young
people that's a significant chunk of the problem, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (39:32):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (39:32):
Absolutely, And that's why from the AA's perspective, we really
need to be focused on what else can we do
to get better prepared, more skilled, if for young drivers
coming through because they're the highest risk group on our roads.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Do we know so if the drink driving, drugs or
that is getting better, are they just poor drivers and
it's that that's the problem, or is it even though
the drink driving, seat belt stuff is down, you've still
got the mad behavior in that to the deaths in
the accidents.

Speaker 8 (40:02):
I think a little bit of all of those things together.
You know, you still see the reckless, the extreme, the
awful behavior amongst a certain group, and that's why enforcement
needs to be really important. But then there's a whole
bunch of other people that really what it's about is
more experience, more skills, more knowledge.

Speaker 12 (40:24):
And that's why with the.

Speaker 8 (40:26):
Government's current proposal around driver licensing changes, we want to
see them add some more material in there so that
we are doing more to have our learned items to
be more time practicing, Yeah, more time learning, clock up,
more practice hours before they're out driving solo.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
We tend to agree with you, Dylan, appreciate the insight.
Dylan Thompson out of AA. I went and got a
warrant the other day on Friday from my old junker car.
Have got up in the country and I thought they'd
changed the law to twelve months. You know how you
used to do it every six months, and they're going
to change it to twelve months. And I said to
the Blake, oh, twelve months agus NW. They haven't done that,
so another six months. I'm in there every five minutes.

(41:02):
I might ask the Prime Minister about that. Shortly seven twenty.

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Hosky seven twenty four. We've got the press release from

(42:20):
the Restaurant's Association on Friday, Flat sales, cost pressures, regional divergence.
That was the theme. Now I've changed my mind a
little bit on hospow of late. I wonder more broadly
whether there are too many vested interests in this country
who get in the way of real progress. Now, the
HOSPO story has been a long, arduous and well told one.
Of course, hospo's shot, Hospo's a disaster. No one makes

(42:40):
money in hospital, no one wants to work in hospit.
And yet my increasing observation is that is not true.
If you take a very large industry as a whole
and average everything out, you might well be able to
find some doer times. But what's increasingly obvious from not
just personal experience, but a lot of anecdotal expert opinion
is a lot of hospital is not only fine, going
quite well. The thing about hospow is it's magiable. You

(43:03):
are not a log exporter reliant on a single market
to either buy or not buy your tree. In HOSPO,
you can vary what it is you're offering and what
I see as a lot of people doing really good things,
and as a result they're doing very nicely.

Speaker 12 (43:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
For example, it took us over a week to get
a last table for lunch the other day at a
local a week. That's in our experience, they've changed, they've
changed hands, they boosted their product offering, and as a
result they've gone from a quiet regional operator to a
booming tourism business rushed off its feet. Same place, same name,
new product, whole different result. The other thing about hospo
is it doesn't require any skill to enter. Anyone can

(43:38):
buy a cafe and a lot do and I've seen
them often immigrants. It's an easy entry point. They take
over a going concern, the wrecket, change the men you employ,
the family kill, the service dead in a week. We're
over supplied, of course with hospitality outlets. So in your
area where you've got a choice of a dozen places,
only two have to be good before they boom and
the others wilt. So the Restaurant Association telling us things

(43:59):
aren't flash, it's not the real story. I don't think
bits aren't flash. But then if you're not up to
much in the first place, they never will be. Pasking cleeak.
You watch an Amosphere. We've mentioned this before because they
keep a winning awards. It's ridiculous, but they are the
first ever restaurant from New Zealand to make You will
have seen this over the weekend the World's Best Restaurant lists,
so they're ranked ninety ninth, which is exciting. It's a

(44:21):
panel of twelve hundred voters of chef's, food writers and
restairators all over the world, voting done by Deloitte, and
for the first time ever, they've made the top one hundred,
So that's exciting.

Speaker 7 (44:30):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
As a frontlined road policing officer, I wonder whether the
AA looked at the number of hours the police spent
on traffic enforcement over the last ten years. I didn't
raise that with him because they won't have of course,
because they won't know. But Andy, I think you're right.
I will guarantee you it's down considerably from prior historical
levels my personal view, and I've watched the kids in
the last handful of years get a license, get behind

(44:51):
the wheel, and them and their mates pretty much you
know what the AA is saying, it's not like the
old days. I mean, some of the things I did
behind the wheel when I first got my license I'm
embarrassed about, but we all did it in those where
the times doesn't make it right. But nevertheless, you don't
see it as much these days. But then again, I
think you're also right. The number of coppers on the
street looking out for this sort of thing is somewhat diminished.

(45:14):
The Prime Minister will find himself on the opposite side
of the desk. In just a couple of moments, You're
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Speaker 1 (45:20):
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Speaker 2 (45:38):
Bites after eight, Andrew Sevil Jason plane with US prety
three minutes away from the Prime Minister, joins us for
this Monday morning. Good to see you and good see team.
Mike's right, So I've got a nineteen ninety three RD
eighty five speed.

Speaker 7 (45:54):
Me Edge.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
So no, it's well, it might because I'm sick of
getting the warrant one of the things your government promised.
So I take it into the garage on Friday and
it needs to warrant. And one of the things your
government promised was you were going to do twelve month warrants. Yeah,
because well when are you doing it?

Speaker 16 (46:07):
Because I went in on Friday one of those conversations
like I got you announced this and when are you
doing exactly?

Speaker 2 (46:12):
I can't tell you.

Speaker 16 (46:13):
I know we announced it because it's something I'm passionate about.
I've got a nineteen sixty six Riley Elf which has
done sixty six thousand miles. I've probably done one thousand
miles and ten years in it or something. So is
it manual, yes, manual? Yeah, So the four speed it's
a full speed. It's one thousand cc Mini with a
boot on the back of it. It was my first
car I had in christ Church was a sixty two
Riley Off which I crashed going to see Amanda one

(46:35):
night or someone reversed into me, got written off and
I got sentimently attached to it. So I bought another one.
But classic car owners actually look after their cars really well.
They do really few sort of miles and actually we've
got to make it much easier for them. Yes, exactly,
So it's coming.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
I just can't tell you. It's like it was.

Speaker 16 (46:50):
The last thing you were harassing me about was that
freeway north? About when's it coming? In one case, it'll come.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
APROMI, my eighteen year old was driving home from the
country over the weekend and she called us, spacetimed us
and she said, hey, do you realize it's now one
hundred and ten k's on the road And we said, yes,
how long have you been on it, and she goes,
it's just started to one hundred and ten. I said,
let's stay on the phone call and watch it go
seconds later, watch it go back to one hundred and

(47:16):
she said, why did they do that? And I said,
very good question. The my costing Memorial Motorway North. So
when you got to use three meters of it exactly?
So why can't you tell me when you're doing the
twelve month.

Speaker 16 (47:30):
More I tell you what I'll get out of this interview,
or you just start it is just at some point
we've announced it. No, that's all done. It's just I
can't remember when it's coming out, but it is coming
absolutely absolutely, there is like a gazillion. I gave all
these Britain Euroclassic car shows from time to time when
I get a free moment, and honestly, these guys look
after these cars brilliantly. They lead all this hussle that

(47:51):
they commun get it precisely, the blue Bridge thing. How
seriously did you guys consider using them instead.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Of a fairy Oh?

Speaker 16 (47:57):
We looked at a range of different options, but ultimately
you need to have a solution that we can rely on.
You've got to think of the cook straight as a
continuation of State Highway one and you need certainty of
supply on the straight and as a result, that's why
we went the way we did.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Okay, the EU deal around, I'm reading about deforestation these
new rules for the EU, So everything we send to
the EU under this CFTA has a deforestation tag to it,
and we've got to show that we didn't DeForest the
country by growing our cows and our sheep and our trees.
How problem one why do we sign up to that?

Speaker 7 (48:32):
And two?

Speaker 2 (48:33):
How problematic is that going to be? Do you think?

Speaker 16 (48:35):
Well, I don't think it's problematic. I mean we've got
a third of this country and the docker state, right.
I mean, there's very few countries that would have that
much wildlife protection and biodiversity that we've got in this country.
I was a bit frustrated last week because essentially, you know,
the reality is there is no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
I've looked at the numbers.

Speaker 16 (48:52):
We are the most carbon efficient, for example, farmers in
the world right, and everyone's been saying I got to
shut down farming because it's going you know, the reality
is none a week. Actually grow farming. We can increase production,
we have this incredible science, technology innovation.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
This is not just ideas.

Speaker 16 (49:05):
These are real projects that are going to make a
big difference on that make our farmers more productive, make
us a lot more innovation. So I reckon anything any more.
Farming in New Zealand is good for the world because
it actually lowers greenhouse gas emissions is the way to
think about it. And we've got to do a bit
of reprogramming around it.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
So you don't think it's going to be a problem,
is my main nux.

Speaker 16 (49:22):
Now, we'll make sure we're compliant, but I think New
Zealand has done a great job farming and itself is
coming down. We're actually going to put limits on the forestation.
We've got a lot of farm to forest conversions, as
you know, that's changed the complexion of our rural communities.
It's an externality that's not helping and as a result,
we're going to make some changes around what you can

(49:43):
can't do on the land.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Well, last week's announcement on the lack of gas, how
alarmed do you become each time they say this, Well, I.

Speaker 16 (49:48):
Think this is one of the great tragedies of New Zealand.
We honestly have abundant natural resources and we should not
have an energy problem. And the reality is this, at
eighty seven percent, we're a top ten country on renew books.
We want to double that because we're going to need
it with data centers and other things. But you've got
to face up to the reality is we are going
to need gas for several decades to go, you know,
because you need that certainty of supply. The oil and

(50:10):
gas ban from twenty eighteen was one of the dumbest,
most insanest moves I've seen happen where they didn't think
through the second and third order consequences of that and
the consequences. We are the only country I'm aware of
on the world that's actually transitioning from gas to coal,
and coal is twice as bad as gas. So what's
happened because unfortunately that decision when you're a global investor
sitting in Canada or wherever you are in the world

(50:31):
with investments here in New Zealand around gas, and you
put a chilling effect into the investment community internationally. That's
why we've put two hundred million dollars aside so we
can co invest to encourage those investors to come back
into New Zealand and to keep looking for domestic pools
of gas, which we desperately need.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
We had changed Jones on the program last week on
the spurry subject. He said he's off to Singapore to
talks people. So okay, so there is some genuine interest
in looking if we can you know, yelp.

Speaker 16 (50:57):
And we're going to reverse the oil and gas ban.
But that the problem that has happened is again it's
very easy to do the bumper sticker and the slogans,
but you actually have to think through the second and
third what comes next. And what came next was investors
go jeep as I don't want to invest in New Zealan.
They're going to lay down millions of dollars billions of
hundreds of millions dollars at capital to do exploration, and
then all of a sudden the rules change and their
assets are stranded. So that's why we're having to make

(51:19):
sure that we reassure them that actually if they come
here and they reinvest again under you know, either through
legislation or through the government come investment model, we've got
support that we can signal that this is actually important,
we want you to do this stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
See they started last week a battery project at Huntley
and when that battery is completed and then they're going
to double that battery and that takes us out to
twenty thirty five. Those two batteries as a form of
storage will do the equivalent for two hours of one
hundred and twenty thousand houses, right, Yeah, So as good
as that may be on a renewable story, it's not

(51:51):
much power. And when you talk about data centers and stuff,
there was a deal in North Carolina last week for
ten billion year dollars and so we don't have the
power for any of it. So you can talk data
centers to you, blue in the face, No, but we
still can't get tea White running.

Speaker 16 (52:07):
It for Yeah, but we do have abundant natural resources
and it shouldn't be a reason why. But that's years
ago though, Yeah, I get it. But equally there is
dumb stuff that's been going on. You know, like if
you go down to Marka which is just out of Wellington,
there's one hundred and thirty thousand houses that are actually
provided by wind and the bottom line there is that

(52:27):
that took eight years to consent in two years to build.
That should be a one year consenting two year build,
yet the benefit in three years.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
And we've got a hell of a lot of places.
We could do a lot more of that stuff.

Speaker 16 (52:36):
The solar stuff's coming on board ready fast. A lot
are funded by British investors, for example, and you can install.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Honestly believe, heart of hearts that we will get to
a renewable story in some way, shape or form that
will serve it. In other words, the green vision, I
just increasingly don't see you Well, we've got to be
so renewable and it's so unreliable.

Speaker 16 (52:56):
I just that's the point I'm trying to make, is
that we're already in the top ten in countries of
the one hundred and ninety five in the world on renewables,
we're at eighty five eighty seven percent. Any other world
leader I talk to is nowhere near that, right, they're
at twenty percent, you know, fifty percent.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
If you're lucky.

Speaker 16 (53:10):
So let's be clear, we've got to double that, and
we can because we've got lots of space and that's
all good, but we're going to need gas. We need
we need some certainty of supply. We're also looking at geothermal,
whether we can go deeper to get more productivity out
of that asset, and that that's technology key we engineers
invented sixty years ago, and there's more that we could do.
There'd be very interesting, I think down the road, I

(53:30):
wouldn't be surprised if we start having conversations around fusion
technology as well.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
These eighteen and nineteen year olds. I haven't asdis for
a couple of weeks, but in the budget you said
eighteen or nineteen year olds who aren't working are going
to be somehow supported by their parents. And when is
it being announced as and what do you need to
earn as a parent? You're triggered versus not triggered.

Speaker 16 (53:50):
I can't give you again a time prame on when
that month that is coming.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Haven't you made your decision?

Speaker 12 (53:54):
Though?

Speaker 7 (53:55):
Well, we have.

Speaker 16 (53:55):
I mean that the bottom line is we are. We's
got to set the thresholds. But the point very clearly
is it. I'm trying to reprogram our young people under
twenty five to say I just can't go to school.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
You can't. I get the theory, but there'll be parents
out there going well. I own one hundred and ten
thousand versus ninety five thousand I'd kind of like to
know where we're at on it, and so what's is
this a game or something?

Speaker 16 (54:14):
You just want to make sure that we really get
that setting right, and we've got It's quite complex because
there will also be scenarios where you've also got individuals
that have fallen, you know that their family relationships such
that that doesn't work, So we've got to get that
straight as well. But you know the detail is coming.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
But I just I can't give the Michael Forbes thing,
which I hesitate to even raise, because I mean, you know,
who the hell saw that coming. Are there things that
are unfolding in your office and in Parliament generally that
you're learning from. Is there something that's come out of
this that you're missed as that a red flag you
should have seen? Is there anything at all or not?

Speaker 7 (54:46):
Now?

Speaker 16 (54:46):
The problem is that we actually have followed all of
the processes, like you know, really well, and we've actually
been a real stickler for that since it's been important
to me. It's the stuff that I believe is important.
But the problem is in this case, you know that
the individual was vetted, they then worked from minister. You know,
we we're from minister. They were vetted, they then had
this this incident happened after that, and the question is, well,

(55:06):
is there any other vetting that we should have done
if they changed jobs coming out of the Minister's office
into my office? Is there any other cross agency vetting
that could have been done? So really, it's it's an
incredible case where you know, we've done everything that's built
up in Parliament and everything you've learned about hiring staff
and the beehive who actually worked for the d i A,
but you know, as their employer, we've got to go

(55:26):
back through all those process and say is it anything
else we needn't? No, there isn't, But it's just like,
how could this happen? And how did we? I think
there's some good questions around are the agencies talking to
enough to each other? How would police and d A
inter relate? Is anything we should do in terms of
resetting and doing some more vetting. There's a bunch of

(55:47):
stuff like that. But again, you're clearly unacceptable behavior, and
you know we moved as fast as we could.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I think I think we handled it very well.

Speaker 16 (55:55):
But just still for the women that were impacted by that,
pretty big deal.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
All right, it's just Christopher lux in Prime Minister thirteen
to eight.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
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Speaker 12 (56:09):
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Speaker 2 (56:11):
Fox is a couple off the pace at fifteen under
through nine, so he's tied with the bike. He started
with Mana Sero today who was in the lead. Both
of them were in the lead and they've dropped back
a couple. But the guys who are in the lead
at seventeen under sixteen under their finishing their round shortly,
so he's still very much in contention in Canada this morning, Mike,
why were we ignoring the addition of hydro dams for power?

(56:32):
Another damn after the Clyde Dam would be epic? Epic
is epic? The word Where is the last dam we
built in this country as far as I know? Is
one Nelson or outside of Nelson. And that was just
a complete and utter cluster and it finally got finished
was it last year? And it was years overdue and
miles over day the whole thing. I'm not against the dam,

(56:54):
but just just show me, tell me which part of
the country you're building that in. Wander into that particular
area and go, hey, guys, we're thinking of building a
nice big dam here and see how that goes for you, Mike.
I was in Spain Portugal along with parts of itly
six weeks ago when they had that total loss of
electricity supply for fifteen to twenty hours plus weeks one
going repairs to damaged equipment because of over reliance on

(57:14):
solar and wind. I don't know they ever concluded that,
I mean, that was a global story. Obviously, did they
conclude that that was one hundred percent because of their
reliance on renewable It certainly was suggested. But Luxon is
right when he talks about these Spain is one of
the most renewable economies in that part of the world
at fifty percent. So when we're in the high eighties,

(57:36):
this ongoing thing about being more and more green is
just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
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Speaker 2 (57:44):
Like Gwaimia dam is not an energy generator. It's purely
storage for the agri sector. It doesn't really matter, it's
not my point. The point is they built a dam,
and building a dam and building anything big in this
country is problematic and it costs more than you think,
and it takes longer than you think. Is there something
in that the Prime Minister's revelation this morning? But the
Riley Elf his first car? How many people have their

(58:05):
first car still? What do you reckon? In percentage terms?
Less than one percent of people would still have their
first car, wouldn't they? I regret I owned a nineteen
sixty nine Dame La mark one when I was twenty
twenty one, and it was a ridiculous car to own

(58:25):
because I couldn't afford to run it.

Speaker 7 (58:27):
Did you think you were the Queen?

Speaker 1 (58:28):
No?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
But I thought that's a cool car. And it was
at a time when the Toyota Corolla on a fair
Go story was pinged as being a particularly rustworthy car.
And the very next day, after the fair Go episode
of the Toyota Corolla being particularly rustworthy, I drove it
to a lot and I saw at the front of
the lot a nineteen sixty nine Dame La mark one.

(58:51):
I thought, I'm going to trade my Toyota coroll. I
hope he hasn't seen fair Go the night before, and
I'm going to buy this Daimler because I figured he'll
be wanting to get rid of the Dame because how
many people hold the Dame lorol the lot? Not many,
as it turns out, and you couldn't wait to get
rid of it. So I swapped the Corolla for the Damler.
No money changed hands, seven thousand dollars, and I thought
arm quids in here until the breaks failed, and I
needed various other parts coming in from Britain. I didn't

(59:12):
have any money for any of those things. So I
drove the Dameler for a sustained period of time around
and Eden with no brakes. And I can tell you
that made me the driver I am today because anticipating
when you're fly flat and Eden, Yeah, well exactly, OK,
Stuart Street, go to Stuart Street sometime with no breaks
and see how that goes for you. And and you know,
anticipating when the Dameler comes to a halt with no
real breaks is a thing. But if I could have

(59:34):
that car back, I would because I can now afford
to actually put petrol in the thing. But it's gone
news for you. In a couple of moments, then we'll
rip into the wonderful world of Swart with a Jason and.

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Speaker 7 (59:59):
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Through the.

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Speaker 7 (01:00:13):
All either of the blues of one twenty point to nineteen.

Speaker 15 (01:00:19):
We said it's gonna be a one point game, and
it was a one point game. Another thriller in camera,
but the Brumby's advice and will play the Chiefs in
Hamilton and the cane train has come to its final stop.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
It was all the Warriors tonight at full times.

Speaker 7 (01:00:38):
It's forty points to take.

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Speaker 18 (01:00:50):
It's Charles Alcas the defense his title. Six surely have
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Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
And Jason Pine morning to both of you. Good morning morning, Mike,
sab Stu Wilson thoughts memories.

Speaker 7 (01:01:22):
Yeah, very sad had a fair bit to do with them.
When Stu was based in the North Harbor area. Grew
up watching him as a kid, as as a lot
of your listeners would have. And those dualted tones of
Keith Quinn, for Fraser and Bernie Fraser and Stu Wilson
and those other All Blacks and those in those great
great teams. He was a He was a great player,

(01:01:46):
fast winger, great finisher, played a bit of center too,
and then he captain the All Blacks on that on
that tour to Great Britain nearly eighties. So a former
All Black captain. Yeah, just and a real obviously with
Bernie and tow was a real reconteur and much sort
after after dinner speaker. So yeah, sad day, sad day

(01:02:07):
for rugby.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
You know, I'm Jason.

Speaker 6 (01:02:09):
Yeah, I had a lot to do with them here
in Wellington. Mike did a couple of functions with him
and the kind of and Sav's right wreck on tour.
Just a storyteller, supreme had, you know, had audiences in
the palm of his hand, and.

Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
Yeah, what a player.

Speaker 6 (01:02:23):
Remember going to Athletic Park and watching that Wellington team,
you know with Herman Bernie and you know Max Alan Houston,
you know, just tear it up and yeah, very very sad.

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
Only seventy, Yeah, seems very young.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Too young. Yeah, what a life he had, way way waited.

Speaker 7 (01:02:38):
When the game didn't really encourage stars, Mike, I think
he was a good point, you know, in the late seventies,
early eighties, he was a star.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Of can I be honest. I think part of that
was he actually had a personality, because most of the
all Blacks from those days couldn't spring two words together
with their life depended on it, nor were they interested
in doing it. And then this guy came along and
he had any number of tales and a beer and
a chat and a laugh, and you know, he was
just he was just an outside sort of figure. I
think that's probably part of it. Did you pick Jason?

(01:03:09):
Did you pick the Chiefs to get beaten?

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:03:12):
No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Did anyone you reckon?

Speaker 13 (01:03:15):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:03:15):
We took a lot of calls over the weekend on Saturday,
and I don't think anybody did. I think a few
people thought the Blues might be the best, you know,
a chance of anybody beating the Chiefs, But I'm not
sure that anybody put a heck of a lot of
money on it. But you have to give it to
the Blues, they stay alive. Look, they've got to go
to christ Church now, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
They'll get there. Unfortunately, it's sort of the end of
the season at this point for them. But that's a.

Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
Thirty straight wins and finals matches and christ Church at
some record, isn't it for the Crusaders. I reckon, they've
got to be favorites now, the Crusaders. If they beat
the Blues, they'll host the final yeas Chiefs Crusaders.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Chiefs were the Crusaders to be victorious?

Speaker 7 (01:03:54):
I certainly, I certainly gave the Blues a chance. You
look at the talent they've got on that team and
it's really this season. They broke the shack was a
bit against the Warritor, so I thought they're running into
form here. They could give the Chiefs a real goal.
I thought it was a great game. Jesus was physical.
It was brutal, needy in their defense from both teams.

(01:04:15):
But well done the Blues. You know, they get a
chance to go to christ Church and try to upset again.
Because it would be an upset. They know they can
do it. They'd be confident, morales high, so they've got
a chance again.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
I think now the real scandal. I don't know if
you cover this over the weekend, Jason on your program,
but you know at the halftime at the way Katto
Stadium where you get to win a year's worth a KFC. Yes, right,
so you know how you race the colonel. So the
klonel is on the screen by the side of the
field right electronically and ye they pick a person from

(01:04:49):
the crowd and they say go, and you race the
colonel to see who can get to the line first,
and if you beat the colonel, then you win a
year's worth a KFC. Do you know what pace they
set or speed? They sit the colonel at four one
hundred meters no, nine point eight three seconds?

Speaker 6 (01:05:07):
So what they're just basically then never unless you say
bolt rocks up exactly to have a go exactly and
give it away.

Speaker 7 (01:05:13):
What if the colonel can run it under teen? Isn't
that a great endorsement for fried Chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
I'm glad you see it that way, Sef, But I
just wonder, is that is that a rigged contest?

Speaker 7 (01:05:24):
What has to be, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Because no one's running nine to three or even close
to it. And if you're gonna give away chicken. Why
wouldn't you make it a race because the video I
watched the colonel won by about fifty meters.

Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
Unless unless there's a tall Jamaican looking fellow in the
grand sectly who's to see Olympic gold medals hanging around
his neck?

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Got to talk about the Warriors more in a moment.
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Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Have you fissiting about Rob Walter? Is this a decision
for the ages for the black Caps or no.

Speaker 7 (01:06:08):
I think it's the right decision because he's got a
lot of experience coaching here. I met him the other
day and he's got some typical sort of South African
steal about him. Did quite well with the South African
national team, so I think it was It's the correct appointment.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
And as far as Steed's concerned, Jason does everyone leave happy.
It just seems a shame because he was so fantastically
successful and he wanted something they didn't want to go
the same way, and that's sort of the end of that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:35):
Yeah, I think you know, Gary Steed's record, you know,
very good, as you say, Mike as good, in fact,
better than any of his predecessors. I think people just
found it very hard to warm to Gary Stead. I
don't think he was an effusive character he.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
You know, that's more about you, Jason. Well, in fact
we were very good friends.

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
You're right, Yeah, maybe he just didn't warm to me particularly,
But I think his loyalty was often an overplayed strength,
became a bit of a weakness, and a lot of
people had had issues with that. But look, his his
legacy is secure. You look at what he achieved World
Test Champions Series, winning India. You know there's a big
ticket items. So I think Garry Stead goes with a

(01:07:15):
good legacy.

Speaker 7 (01:07:16):
Tell me what I think the biggest challenge for the
new coach, Mike is making sure we've got enough players
and good players for the black Caps as as many
of them head off to these professional, these lucrative T
twenty leagues around the world.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
That's the biggest issue, exactly exactly. I reckon the Warriors
against the Rugby the Warriors was a better game if
you will look, if you only had time to watch
one game of you know, oval ball sport, the Warriors
would have been a better game.

Speaker 7 (01:07:41):
That was a brilliant game, getting one sider than the
second half. There wasn't coming.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I didn't see it coming. I thought that halftime two
good signs.

Speaker 7 (01:07:48):
That I thought they might have struggled against the Sharks
and Sydney the good team. But gee, it confirms again
that this Warrior's side is a very good rugby league team.
At the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
They can seemingly do Jason nothing wrong. I mean, everyone
talked about Barnett being out and all that, but I mean,
and you know, not not underplaying what he contributes. They've
had players out all year at some stage or another
and they still keep winning. They've got depth, obviously, they
hold together. They don't fall apart, they don't need to
come back. All the stuff they used to do they
don't do anymore. They just go out, play well and win.

Speaker 12 (01:08:22):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
And they lost Wade Egan on game day as well,
you know, big player for them. Eleven o'clock in the morning.
They said, look, you can't play Sam Healey steps in
and gee, I thought he was terrific at hooker.

Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
So you're right.

Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
I mean, these young these young players in this team
Halla Seema by Manga, you know, some others Laban, with
the steely experience of Fisher, Harris and Tuvasascheck. I thought
they were absolutely tremendous on Saturday night, just so good.
I was double screening, so I was sort of trying
to work out which to have on the big screen.

(01:08:53):
By the time the second half rold around, yeah, the
Chiefs Blues game was relegated to the second screen. I
thought the Warriors were absolutely tremendous on set.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Metcalf kicking sav I mean, forget the kicking between the goals,
because he's still struggling with that. But but his's that
those those chips into the corner. I mean, yeah, that's
that's a genuine talent that I when it looks good,
it looks easy, And I mean I don't I don't
think people realize how.

Speaker 7 (01:09:18):
Seems to have grown in confidence. It's about every game, right.
What what you're noticing I think with the Warriors is
you know previous years that that upset one of the
big names and it you know, lifted everybody and everybody
thought this is the year and and then there's celebrations
and then that fall over. Next week he gets the
bottom place team. But that that things have changed. I
think there's a lot of consistency there and you have

(01:09:40):
to give Webster a pat on the back again for that.
And and clearly player like James Fisher, Harris and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
We got to we've got to buy, and we're going
to buy for two points and then we've got the Panthers,
and so you've got to say that the Panthers are
not what they were. So you know that's they've got
a couple of buys close together, which is not a
great drawer. But no, well it is you play what's
in front of you, Andrew, I think I I've always
said that as an elite athlete myself, you play what's
in front of your ten.

Speaker 7 (01:10:03):
And whoever do you think whoever changed the rule lately?
I think it wasn't that long ago to do away
with a fifth set advantage. I mean, the French Open
is now ruined.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
That who in their right mind sat in the committee
and when.

Speaker 7 (01:10:18):
Like French Open was the last Grand Slam to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
But surely that's that's your badge of honor. You go,
no this Grand Slam, we play till the end, or
to your collapse.

Speaker 7 (01:10:30):
They'd probably still be going.

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
They would be it wouldn't be finished yet, they'd still
be going out there if that was the case. These
two are going to have so many battles. It's going
to be a terrific rivalry. Alcaraz On clay and grass
center on the hard courts, but they're good on each
other's surfaces as well. It's such a great rivalry there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
But sudden death. There is no way to enter a
tennis match, especially a Grand Slam, is it?

Speaker 17 (01:10:52):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:10:52):
No? I mean the fifth set you go all the
way open and Wimbledon have had it for four or
five years. US opened much longer. But as I say,
the French will ask to give in, and I think
they'll be regretting it now after that final. This morning
names great for tennis because tennis needs rivalries. Legacy, Sam Press,
you had McEnroe, Connors, you had Feeder and the dal

(01:11:16):
and Djokovic. Tennis needs rivalries to survive, and then you'd
hope this one will go on for it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Neither of you would have watched the supercars am I correct?
Over the weekend, I did watch Ryan Wood. Ryan Wood, Yes,
your name, there's your name? Good, twenty one years old.

Speaker 6 (01:11:32):
Yesterday crash yesterday, didn't live any crash.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Yeah, yeah, but that was different. That's he was driven
off the ride. That don't get into that. I mean
he won the earlier on he had won and that
was his first victory and he won way. Well, he's
a talent, is what I'm saying. And he's a young
guy and he was in tears. He crossed the line.
And so if you want yet another name to add
to the growing list of motorsport people that come out

(01:11:54):
of this country's he's won of them. Because Matt Payne,
of course, is doing extremely well across there.

Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
Is And he thanked Greg Murphy obviously his appearance. But
is thank Greg Murphy in that interview, didn't he? So
obviously your mate Murph's had.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Murph Murphy's instrumental in a lot of great careers. Said,
by the way, sad, what's on the roster this week?
You're doing one day? Two days?

Speaker 17 (01:12:14):
What do we doing?

Speaker 7 (01:12:15):
Why do you drink that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
It's just you had the highlight of Metelli Visual Day.
That's all I'm just gutting when you.

Speaker 7 (01:12:20):
Don't turn across your three hour show. You only talked
for about eighteen seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
They're good, but mate quality not what they are.

Speaker 7 (01:12:27):
A golden they're a golden eighteen second. That is award winning, guys,
that which reminds me, well well done on, well done
on scooping the pool at the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Very kind.

Speaker 7 (01:12:38):
The award more a testament of your back of your
back room staff.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Yeah, no, that's true. There's one hundred percent truth. And
you one too, didn't you, Jason? To my correct, I'm
saying that you were.

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
It was a joint, a joint when Mike so yeah,
I take half of it.

Speaker 9 (01:12:49):
I know, you know?

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
Did you tie with the cricket commentators from our good
friends across the road?

Speaker 12 (01:12:56):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Those reprobates a joint win?

Speaker 10 (01:12:59):
What is?

Speaker 7 (01:12:59):
It's the French Open.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Nice to see you, guys, Jason Pinne and Andrew Saville.
It's eight twenty two from.

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birthday in Australia today and the honors have been announced
and one of the people receiving the big one, what
they call the companion, Catherine Martin, who is married to
a person called Baz Luhman. They both have been made

(01:14:15):
companions so that's encouraging and interesting. O. There's a guy
called Mike Weinberg, former Federal Court justice, booker prize winning
author called J. M. Cotsey, Philip Adams who's a well
known broadcaster, climate change scientist Stuart Howden, and a bloke
called Scott Morrison from the marketing department. He's got the
big prize as well. We'll work through a bit of

(01:14:35):
that and more. Win Steve Price is with us up
in the news, which is next on Mike Coskin.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
We Can Daze, we Can Dance, on the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Breakfast show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know, the
Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Doctor the most Powerful
Defender ever made.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
And news Togs Dead be so interesting. Poll out over
the weekend. It was done internationally a large number of countries,
and it focused a little bit on Europe. And I'll
come back to the specific numbers in a moment, but
broadly speaking, and it gives you an insight into how
troubled the world is at the moment. Most people in
most countries in Europe think society is broken and what

(01:15:15):
you need is a rule breaking or rule bending leader
to make it better. And that broadly speaking the richer
getting richer and that's not fair. More shortly twenty three.

Speaker 11 (01:15:27):
To nine international correspondence with ends an eye insurance peace
of mind for New Zealand business and I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Straight you on this King's birthday for them anyway, Steve Price,
very good morning to you. Good morning Scott Morrison. Always
is it one of those You were the Prime minister,
therefore you're bound to get an honor or has he
done something above and beyond?

Speaker 12 (01:15:49):
Well, it's interesting that Paul you refer to there, Mike,
because it's a very reflected mood from Scott Morrison after
being announced that he picks up a companion in the
Order of Australia. I mean, yes, all ex prime ministers
are given that honor and he's no exception. But he's
very reflective in talking about his time as the Prime Minister,

(01:16:11):
as the Immigration Minister and as the Treasurer, and he
makes some very interesting remarks in regard to the loss
of the Liberals at the last election. Now, Scott Morrison,
of course was the PM during COVID, so much of
what he talks about is how this country has changed
since COVID. And one of the interesting things I think
One of the observations he makes is that voters, people

(01:16:34):
the public post COVID are less worried about governments that
go into debt than they were pre COVID. So pre
COVID we're always worried about balanced budgets. The Liberal Party
and the coalitioner has talked about being better money managers
than the Labor Party. He said that no longer applies.
He believes that people think that governments should pay for

(01:16:54):
a lot of stuff, and it doesn't matter whether they
borrow money to do it. He says economic security that
can equally mean people looking to the government to insulate
them from economic cycles. Well, so that means when he
was PM, he gave a lot of people a lot
of money to keep them afloat so the country didn't
fall over during COVID. He now believes that people have

(01:17:15):
become used to that sort of handouts from governments and
so they expected to happen on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
He's a wise man, and I think he's right, and
we have the same problem here, and they certainly have
the same problem in America. But you're heading towards the
trillion dollars worth of debt, aren't you?

Speaker 12 (01:17:31):
We are indeed, and the Labor Party went to the
last election and won it handsomely without promising to bring
down budget deficits, and the deficits go on into about six, seven,
eight nine years forward in the cycles, and so people go, well, okay,
government's got a lot of debts, so have I what
can you do for me? That's the attitude people. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
It's depressing, isn't it. Amazon and the machine How a
they're going to do that in Victoria. I mean, if
you're an Amazon, which isn't as Stralian company, how do
you is the address? So if I wanted a machete,
I seen it north of the border in the New
South Wales and bring it into Victators How does that work?

Speaker 12 (01:18:08):
Well, they're going to abandon the sales in Australia all over,
so not just Victoria. So Amazon goes, okay, you're online
trying to order a machete from a machete shop in
Ohio in America, Well you can't have it because you're
in Australia, so you're not going to get it. I mean,
this whole machette sales ban is never going to work.

(01:18:28):
And I should point out there was again another shopping
center drama at the beginning of the weekend. I think
it was early Friday, late Friday afternoon, gangs of kids
in a shopping center. Again, guess what with machete There's
so many of these things in the community that you're
never going to be able to get hold of them all.
I mean, you can stop selling them all you like,

(01:18:49):
but they are so widespread. The black market is just
so simple, and that's what these people will do.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
I'm assuming you can buy a machete if you wanted
to at a shop down town Melbourne. Can't you?

Speaker 12 (01:19:01):
Or not? Well to night, Well, you're not supposed to
be able to buy a bladed weapon from a hardware store.
The government laughingly, the state government's got fourteen officers statewide
to go out and make sure that no I'm selling machetes.
I'm not sure fourteen bloke's wandering around the state size

(01:19:21):
of Victoria is going to make much difference.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
When you have another weekend like that with a shopping set.
How grieved are people on a Monday morning and talk
back radio and all that, or was it just so
sort of you know, problematic now that you just signed
drug your shoulders.

Speaker 12 (01:19:35):
No, I think people are very genuinely upset and worried
about the youth crime crisis. I mean, because it happens
every day. I mean every night there is some youngsters
driving cars at speeds of over two hundred kilometers an
hour down the streets, getting the police to chase them
so they can put it up on TikTok and laugh
at it with their friends. This happens night after night
after night. So where are the cars coming from, Well,

(01:19:57):
these kids are stealing them.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
On that.

Speaker 12 (01:20:00):
Two court cases in the Children's court last week involving
the children of migrants, one family from South Africa, the
other from Uganda. The parents have actually applied to the
magistrate in those two cases they have their bail restrictions
changed to allow the parents listen to this to send

(01:20:20):
those boys, and they are boys back to Africa because
they feel that they would be safer back in their
home country than they would be in Melbourne. It's quite extraordinary.

Speaker 7 (01:20:30):
I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:20:30):
The second case that I'll tell you about is a
family of an alleged car thief and armed robber sought
and granted court approval for their son to return to
live with relatives in Uganda. The request was a last
ditch attempt to keep the boy away from the bad influences,
the gang he fell in with.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Unreal by the way, elban Ez, I'm rena over the
weekend with interest, So the G seventies. But you may
or may not. I guess he's going to meet Trump whatever.
And the prospect of US beef being put back on
the agenda for Australia and some of the unions and
the farm is a little bit upset about this. How
contentious is all of this and how much does he
need to bend to Trump to sort the steel if

(01:21:11):
not all the other bits and pieces.

Speaker 12 (01:21:13):
Yeah, I think steel and aluminium is the bigger question,
and the tariff's on that because we do I mean,
we have a trade servilace with the United States. They
shouldn't be upset with us about anything. But Donald Trump
doesn't really understand that. So you'll have to argue hard
on steel an aliminium. On the question of beef, there's
a bit of misinformation. American beef can be sold in Australia.

(01:21:35):
It's just our biosecurity is so tough like yours is,
and so it should be that we need to know
where the beef was grown. We don't want beef grown
in Mexico or even in Canada that ends up in America,
gets slaughtered, gets frozen, gets sent here, because we don't
believe that the controls in those two countries are as
tough as they should be. So the beef question I

(01:21:56):
think will be well relatively short. But the other tariff question,
if he gets to see it on them, it's not guaranteed.
It's on the sidelines of the G seven. They've certainly
not announced that he's got a plan trip to Washington
or an invitation to the White House, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Is that a thing? Because I tell you what, I've
looked at all the people who have gone to the
White House and he's not one of them. And he's
part of Five Eyes, and he's part of Orcus, and
he's a major trading partner. Is there something weird about
that that he hasn't got on it?

Speaker 12 (01:22:22):
Yeah, there is there is, And I mean the commentators
he had speculated about Anthony Albnizy being too close to
the Chinese. He certainly has made lots of comments about
China and trading with Australia in recent months, and so
he's probably seen being closer to China than he is
to the United States, which is a shock to most
Australians because we still rely so heavily on the American Alliance.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
All Right, man, you enjoy your day. Often we'll catch
up Wednesday. Appreciate it very much. Steve Price, Out of
Australia eight forty five, The.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Bedlive Away from Lane. Speaking of the honor system, much
reported Joe for the Weekend that David Beckham is at
last getting his knighthood. It's widely known that he's wanted
a knighthood for a sustained period of time, and I
was interested to note whenever somebody like Beckham gets a
high honor, there's always somebody who writes, you know, it's
everything that's wrong with the honors system. But there was

(01:23:16):
a very good piece I read yesterday that it was
a good example of reinvention and quiet service. And he
seems like a very likable guy. And I've been a
fan of David Beckhams for a very long period of time,
and if he gets a knighthood out of doing the
work he's doing, then good lucky by the way, back
to the business I mentioned briefly earlier on in the
program of Adria. It's just something I don't know whether

(01:23:36):
it's sort of it's a moral imperative, or it's something
that he wouldn't, you know, it's just the right thing
to do, Adrian or quit. And you've not heard from
him since. Does the os an explanation, I think he does.
It doesn't matter what the explanation is, just to say
here is I got sick of it, I got worn out.
I didn't want the government interfering on some of the
funding to the bank, or I knew there were changes

(01:23:58):
coming and I didn't like it. So I don't care
what it is, just to explain because he's been a
fairly pivotal figure in our lives for a number of years,
and all of a sudden he just vanished off the
face of the earth and what appeared to be a
massive hissy fit. Anyway, so the Herald's been chasing this
up under the Official Information Act.

Speaker 7 (01:24:14):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
The thing about the Official Information Act, there are rules
around it, and when you ask a question or want
some information, you've got to come back within twenty working
days and the Reserve Bank happened and they continue not to,
which once again leads you to ask, yet again questions
about what's the point of having rules in this country
if no one's going to adhere to them. So they
were supposed to reply, expected to hear from the RB

(01:24:35):
in early April, as THEAA requires a response within twenty
working days May fourteen, which isn't April, it's May, and
the middle of said it would write to the Herald
hope to respond by May thirty, So the end of May.
Did they know? So they're still consulting on what information

(01:24:55):
to be made public. That's fine, consulting you want, but
do it within the timeframe. So you've got two problems here.
One they're stalling. Two they're breaking the rules. Three what's
what's the penalty for that? Or does no one care anymore?
And anyway, then you get back to the moral thing.
Doesn't he does he forget the RB? Doesn't he? I
was an explanation for what was going through his mind
and why he did what he did. Turn away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement Communities News,
togs Head be.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Fox is there or thereabouts? He's tied for thirties too,
off the lead the leaders. In the clubhouse, he's sixteen
under the leaders, eighteen under. There's one player out on
the seventeenth who's on seventeen under. But then he's tied
at sixteen, so he's there. He still there and he's

(01:25:42):
just teeing off on the fifteenth. Has it gone well?
Why don't they do? Those aerial shots were accounted it
Now he's landed the center of the center of the fairway?
Nice back briefly, this study about the world's broken Europeans
particularly this is Zipsos, Great Britain, Germany, France, Italy. Society
in general is broken. It's alarming, isn't it. How many

(01:26:05):
people think that? How many people think that's seventy seven percent.
In Germany, seventy seven percent believe society is broken, which
is up sixteen points since they started that research back
in twenty twenty one. Great Britain and France have seen
double digit percentage increases as well, but it's all in
the seventies. It doesn't matter where you look. In Europe,
two thirds of people think the society's broken twenty nine

(01:26:25):
out of thirty one countries. In the report, say their
economies are ranked in favor of the rich, most likely
to support turning to a strong leader who breaks the
rules as their solution. That's their solution to the problem,
going to somebody who breaks the rules. Hence trump Ish
gets selected. More than half the respondents agree a strong
leader is needed, which is different from a person who

(01:26:45):
breaks the rules. But nevertheless, just twenty four percent of
people in Germany want a rule breaking leader, but thirty
eight percent of the United States say they do. So
we're angsty, we're not happy, we don't like the way
the world is, and it's reflected in the numbers. Five
minutes away.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
From nine trending now with chemist Warehouse, the real House
of vitamins.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
And that's probably manifesting itself at the moment in parts
of Los Angeles. Paramount. I had to look up where
Paramount was because if you we've all been to Los
Angeles at some point and you know all the stuff
you see, whether it be a fire or a riot,
and you think, oh, this is downtown, that's never Paramount's
miles away. It's on the way to Anaheim, which is
well out of Los Angeles, but it is part of
the broader lay area. Trump's now SE's in Morristown and

(01:27:25):
New Jersey on his way to Camp David. He's talking
about all of this first time. The federal garb, by
the way, has been nationally since nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 12 (01:27:33):
Well, we're gonna have troops everywhere.

Speaker 14 (01:27:34):
We're not going to let this happen to our country.
We're not going to let our country be nord to bart.

Speaker 12 (01:27:38):
Like it was under Baby and it's autopen's.

Speaker 10 (01:27:43):
The bar first sending marine.

Speaker 7 (01:27:45):
But the bar is what I think it is.

Speaker 14 (01:27:46):
I mean, if we see danger to our country and
to our senators, it will be very very strong in
terms of law and order.

Speaker 7 (01:27:53):
It's about lawn order.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
The bar is what I think it is. And the
thing about it is this originally was your drug dealers,
your rapists, your murderers, all of those sort of people.
And I'm not sure that that many people would have
been worried about and if you'd runted a few of
those up and sent them back to wherever they came from.
But they're wandering into restaurants in Los Angeles and they're
pulling out people who are pealing potatoes, and you know,

(01:28:15):
being a bus boy three and a half minutes ago,
it's about Lauren Automatic and unless they were murderers and
rapists and drug dealers as opposed to bus boys and
people in the kitchen, I think things might have got
a little bit carried away. National Guard marines could be
on the cards. And then you've got this scrap between
Newsome and Bass, who are supposed to be in charge

(01:28:35):
of this at a California slash Los Angeles level but aren't.
So it's a clash between state and federal. So the
place is a shambles. Tomorrow on the program, Shawn Johnson,
he's got to be I mean, when you've retired and
stuff and moved on, you've got to be enjoying what's
happening with the Warriors at the moment. Anyway, he's got
a new program. He's moving into the media space, and

(01:28:56):
he's got a new television program, and I think that
day bu tomorrow a night is it? Daboos Wednesday? Okay,
daboos Wednesday night. So he's he's gonna pop by tomorrow
in the studio for a bit of a chat about
the Warriors and league and life and all that sort
of stuff. So we will one that's after Ray. But
we're here from six No excuses please, We'll look forward
to your company as always. Happy days You'll.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
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