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June 23, 2025 3 mins

US and UK law enforcement will soon be using a New Zealand-developed strategy to help boost police performance. 

Vantaset utilisises research into people’s breaking points to assist elite athletes in performing their personal bests, at a rate of 87%  

Now they’ve signed long-term deals with global law enforcement agencies to reengage frontline officers. 

Founder and CEO Craig Steel told Mike Hosking that agencies such as the police understand the performance of their people is really critical for their success. 

He says they’re really looking for better ways to be able to engage their people and ultimately help them deliver the outcomes that matter.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
US and UK law enforcement are going to be using
a New Zealand developed strategy to help boost police performance.
So this is VANTA Set uses research into people's breaking
points to assist the lead athletes. Now they've signed long
term deals with global law enforcement agencies to re engage
frontline officers. So Craig Steele is the founder in the
CEO of Vanta Set and as with US, Craig, morning.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
To you, Good morning mate.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
So this was an early iteration used by New Zealand Police.
When was that and did it work?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yes, we started in twenty fifteen with a full roll out.
Prior to that might we had done a couple of
pilot programs and soonly at the time Mike Bush, who
was the commissioner, believed that A gave him a mechanism
to drive the step change that he was looking for
in people's engagement and connection to the strategy.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Wow, what do you literally do? I mean? So in
athletic claims personal best you get eighty seven percent of
the time. These were in Tier one events compared with
international average of eight to ten. What literally are you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well? It's really about a complete change in mindset. It's
enabling airthletes to turn up to world championship events as
a world champion, rather than going in and hoping that
they've done enough work and possibly coming up short. Setting
them up so that they know they're in the right
state when they head into that competition.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
This is purely psychological. You're convincing people they're winners.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
To an extent. When we get into the business piece,
it's very much around connecting people to the intent of
the organization so that the business itself has a mechanism
to be able to optimize the potential of their people.
And they are the things that typically come up short
for organization, so it's not usually the strategy that fails.
It's all around people's execution.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Can you do it in a half baked organization or
does the organization have to be good to instill the
thought process in the people who work for it.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's better if the organization has a real aspiration, no doubt.
But often what happens is when we got organizations there's
often a lack of confident in its ability to succeed.
That as soon as they start to get the leaders
in place and they can see that they can connect
people for the things that really matter that gives them confidence.
So organizations and very change over time they start these

(02:11):
disciplines or methods into their business.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Is it applicable to anything potentially business wise?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, it is. We spend a huge amount of time
testing it and it is an agnostic system, so wherever
there are people who matter to the organization, then it
can work well.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
And so you're going with the police and how long
before I can ring you up? And you go, well,
we put it in there and it worked for them.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
We are hoping that that will be within the twelve
to fifteen months. And the point round the critical appencies,
Mike is purely the fact that those organizations understand the
performance of their people is really critical to their success.
So in that state or in that instance, they are
really looking for better ways to be able to engage
their people and ultimately help them to live the outcomes

(02:55):
that matter.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Interesting, Well, we'll stay in touch. I wish you were
with it. Craig Craig Steel, most Boomers and Anthony Moss
on board with that disc as well.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
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