Full Show Podcast: 30 June 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. The
Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Doctor the most powerful
defender ever made and used Togstead be well, You're.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome the days. The law and order news coming this week.
The Healthy Homes rules kicking tomorrow. Some housing data shows
what the values are doing. The Prime Minister on funner
or at funding and more tax are the lads in
the commentary box after eight Richard Arnold's the price they
offered plenty as well. Oscar Week welcome to it. Let
me share my concern with you. We have now lost
to in a row that, in and of itself isn't

(00:31):
the end of the world. Saturday's loss was worse than
the week before's loss because this last loss we didn't fire.
We looked out played, we looked spooked by a side
we'd previously beat. And don't forget that. Now here's the trouble.
According to Foxtell, who produced the league in Australia, there
are six sides that can win the premiership. We are
one of them. There's growing excitement around the Panthers, a given.
No club in league history apparently has been a reigning champ.

(00:51):
Gone on to be as useless as they are, only
to recover to go on to win if they pull
that trek off. It's a story for the ages. Other
sides they say can win, the Bronx, who they call Ropie,
but when they get it together are great. I think
we might have seen that on Saturday Melbourne the Bulldogs
and the Raiders make up the sex. So you can
see the problem. Who have we lost to pack any
of the five bar the Bulldogs, and those are the

(01:13):
teams that beat us. We play the Bulldogs in August.
By the way, by then we need to have found
the formula to take on sides with a view to
not capitulating. There's nothing wrong with a loss to a
top side, but when all your losses are to top sides,
it means by the time we reach the playoffs, the
wins that they come will be more stars aligned than
they will be predictable. We are a top eighteen, we
are almost certainly a top fourteen. All of that is good,

(01:36):
and all of that's what's made this season so full
of expectations so far. But when you see the pattern
of losses and to who, and now you add some
worrying injuries, it gives you pause for thought. Don't you
think injuries are largely luck Of course, we survived the
start of the season with plenty of those, and we
got through it all. But there is something missing on
the big occasion Brisbane outplayed us. A slow start's only
an issue, by the way, if you don't do something

(01:57):
about it. Problem was we didn't do anything about it.
Helping was my sister in law's photo yesterday morning from
the balcony of her hotel looking down on the warriors
sunning themselves by the pool. Recovery is one thing. Sun
bathings another. Don't worry, it's not over. Just some thoughts
this fingers crossed. There still a.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yes news of the world. In ninety six, the Big.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Beautiful Bill is being debated, as we've speak in what
a tortuous process that's turning out to be. The Dems
doing all they can to stare it.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Don't believe me, listener, Senator Tom tell Us.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
He's been saying loudly, this bill is a bad deal
for the middle class.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
It'll raise healthcare costs and throw millions off of needed healthcare.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Republicans borrore a couple of holdouts which they're working on
think it will squeak through.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Never bet against President Trump. I mean he is on
the phone, he is working it. They passed this by
one vote out of the House before we're likely to
pass it with a similar margin and the Senate. But
don't bet against President Trump.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And they may need to compromise a bit though.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
You also have to get elect You know, when you
do cutting, you have to be a little bit careful
because people don't like necessarily cutting if they get used
to something.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
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York last week, thus making him a shoe and for
the MEA's job, he's been busy hosing down for yours.
He's a radical.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
I call myself a democratic socialist in many ways inspired
by the words of doctor King from decades ago, who said,
call it democracy or call it democratic socialism. There has
to be a better distribution of wealth for all of
God's children in this country.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Right then in Britain, a weekend of angst and negro
in the hardened fields of Somerset Asneecap and Bob Villain
through a lot of anti Israeli stuff about the place. Now.
The BBC also broadcast some of it Live, which ups
it the government.

Speaker 8 (03:41):
Well, I thought it's appalling to be honest, and I
think the BBC and Glastonbury have got questions to answer
about how we saw such a spects call on our screens.
But I also think it's pretty shameless publicity stune.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
But in the fields Zoe, who works with the Guardian,
the clue being the Guardian doesn't seem all that fast.

Speaker 9 (04:01):
He did say free Palestine and the crowd definitely responded
to that, but otherwise there was always a beat of
like I.

Speaker 10 (04:07):
Didn't hear a huge amount of energy.

Speaker 7 (04:11):
In call and response time.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Finally, update on the late Princess Diana's caring dress building
with a lot of calible flower. She caught it with
caring dress as the patients she visited like the colors
well have sold over the weekend for eight hundred and
fifty seven thousand dollars. It was part of a collection
of one hundred ish positions that were sold, including evening dresses,
power suits and handbase, a lot of them going for
over half a million dollars. The auction in the end

(04:34):
brought an eight point two five million dollars Here's the
World in ninety China's industrial profits. There's still a problem
with down nine point one percent, steepest fall and seven months,
so that's not good. And we got some inflation a
little bit hotter in America than they thought, particularly the
core inflation what they call the PCE. They thought two
point six came in at two point seven twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
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Speaker 2 (05:05):
Another thing that happened in Washington over the weekend, the
Congo and Rwanda came to town. The Democratic Republic of Congo.
They signed a peace deal. Why are the Americans involved
in this, Well, it just might mean that they get
some lucrative mineral access. So let's hope the fighting stops
at least fourteen past six by Greetsmith, A good Monday
morning to you.

Speaker 10 (05:26):
Good Monday morning to you as well.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
On despite the world around, just look at those markets day.

Speaker 10 (05:30):
Absolutely, we've got trade frictions, we've got geopolitical frictions, we've
got the big Bill. But yeah, markets are taken all
in their stride. These and P five hundred on Friday
hit a record high, as did the Nastack. So I
suppose it's all about better and fed scenarios, if you
sort of take that for Waddler's We've got the cease
five of course between Iran and Israel, and we've also
got one on the trade front between China and the US.

(05:51):
Of course, they'd agreed that Geneva last month, but there's
talk that they're going to be getting closer to resolving things,
and it actually agreed on a framework so Beijing and
they're going to provide more in the way of critical materials,
and Washington's going to ease up on a few restrictions
as well. So look as usual these things, Mike. At
the moment, there wasn't a lot of detail, but the
investors sort of took the positives, and that sort of
overshadows Trump's comments about raising the tariffs on camera over

(06:15):
their digital sales tax. Also, yeahsn't he said that we
hoped that the agreements reached with a dozen nations by September,
So yeah, not July September, So it seems like that's
being pushed out a bit. Trump reckons he won't need
to extend the deadline, but it seems like they might
be open to it. And meanwhile, you mentioned the inflation
read Yeah, it was a little bit high and expected

(06:35):
on the core side, so excluding food energy, but yet
the headline level was up to zero point one percent
for May, the annual inflation rates at two point three percent.
You also had consumers spending an income that eased a bit,
that was down zero point four percent on point one
percent respectively, and also you had consume expectations around inflation.
So now they rose a little bit to sixty point

(06:57):
seven from fifty two point two, but still way below
twenty twenty four levels, and that basically east over sort
of the past year. Also on from a long term
perspective as well, they form from six point six percent
to five percent, So investors took those positives. Also keeps
lives hope. So the July rate cut by the feed
things like pretty finely balanced. A lot of uncertainties still

(07:20):
was including its Jerome Peal said last week there's a
bit of uncertainly about who is going to pay for
the tariffs and one effect they'll have an inflation. But
investors are taking the positives.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Now, all right. And Nike and I saw the billion
dollars they reckon the tariffs are going to cost them.
But the market terms seemed to like it anyway.

Speaker 10 (07:37):
Yeah, that's right. So billion dollars in tariffs, so they
can navigate that through price increases in supply chain tweaks.
So we're about sixteen percent of their supply chain is
in China. They can they can reduce it to the
single high digit percentage by the end of the current
fiscal year, which is May next years when they're end
So investors like that and the results got a big

(07:58):
tick from investors. So this year is about fifteen percent
on Friday, so expectations are pretty low coming to report.
Lots of competition. EDIDIS is doing a lot better. You
look at sales, they were down twelve percent in the
fourth quarter at eleven point one billion need income two
and eleven million. That was down from one point five
billion last year, but the declines were expected to be
a lot worse. So they're doing a lot of innovation,

(08:20):
as you'd expect, but they've been ramping that up. They're
concentrating their new sneaker lines such as Pegs as they're
trying to get rid of the older inventory which has
been sitting around like the Air Force one and near Jordan,
and yeah, really just trying to innovate that seems to
be paying off. They reckon the overall sales decline is
going to eat easy and further, Nike stores have been
a bright spot sales zeros two percent foot traffic excuse

(08:41):
the pun has been stepping up. They're also looking to
come back to Amazon for the first time since twenty nineteen.
Fans of Kim Kardashi, and they might be a bit
said and to know that the product launch of their
Intimates line that's been designed so delayed to the end
of the year, that's designed to wear female shoppers. But yes,
sneakers are going well and he investors sort of like
what they heard despite that sort of terriff impact. So

(09:02):
she is still down five percent year of eight, but
up to fifteen percent on Friday.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
OK, how about us though, were chipper?

Speaker 10 (09:08):
We're a little bit more chipper here we are. This
is the am z Roy Monk Morgan used on consumer
conference support, a bit of a giveaway as it always is.
With the title. It was called a wintry sunrise. So
confidence up six points to ninety eight point eight in June.
That was described as a welcome balance after a fall
last month. And the big thing it's off and looked
at Mike. Of course, as we know, is the inclination

(09:29):
to buy a major household item. That lifted three points,
still negative seven, so quite soft. Inflation expectations they lifted
a little bit other high than Sable twenty twenty three.
But obviously we've got a lot going on. We've got
food price inflation running at four point four percent, we've
got tariffs and of course we've got a Middle East friction,
so there's a bit of concern there about energy prices.
A lot of other measures improved but are still subdued.

(09:51):
But yeah, I guess a really optimistic point is a
net twenty percent expect to be better off this time
next year. So that was up eight points. Out look
around the economy that appears to be ticking up, particularly
at the five year level. House price inflation expectations they
were steady, so plus three point six percent year on airs,
some positivity there. Overall, I think, might you have to

(10:12):
say the consumer in this country still looks a bit fragile,
but hey, we've got some good news and we've got
people every month rolling off onto lowe on mortgage rates.
We've got domestic inflation. Obviously there's uncertainly there around the
tariff side. But yeah, it is coming down. We might
even get deflation coming from China. So I reckon the
path set for the aben Z to shorten the economic

(10:32):
recovery even further and deliver a couple more rate cuts.
So let's see about that. Okay, numbers, So the Dow
was up one percent four three eight one nine, s
P five hundred record high, up half percent sixty one
seven three Na's deck also a record up half percent,
twenty two to seven to three stocks fifteen Europe that
let one point six percent, foote one hundred up point

(10:53):
seven percent, and Nickey one hundred up one point four percent.
A six two hundred that was down point four percent,
eighty five one four. We were high intex fifty up
point eight percent, twelve five eighty three goal that was
down fifty three dollars three and seventy four. US announce
oil up twenty eight cents, sixty five spot fifty two
of barrel currency markets ky flat against the US sixty

(11:14):
spot five five. It was up point two percent against
the other three majors. So Australian dollar ninety two point
eight British pound forty four point two Japanese yen eighty
seven point six. This week, Mike been going on as usual. Locally.
We've we've got business confidence, we've got building permits, we've
got another dairy auction across in overseas, we've got EU inflation,
we've got japan consuming corporate confidence, and we've got the

(11:37):
eagerly awaited US non fun payrolls. See of the labor
market's doing, and of course any developments that we might
have on the trade in geopolitical front go well.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Greg Smith, Devon Funds Management, Paski ASI, and m They
see a summer when I say some of the northern
summer picking up, they're being done by shining those sort
of people, but they see something happening to the positive.
FedEx just to give you some sort of indication as
to how much they're doing by way of deliveries so
far in the court of twenty two billion dollars worth
of business that was up slightly, so people are still

(12:05):
buying packages and having them delivered. Six twenty one Monday
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Speaker 1 (12:15):
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Speaker 2 (12:23):
Of Tariff's lotus. It was reported over the weekend as
in the car company are going to end production in
the UK and moved to the US. Thirteen hundred jobs
at stake. They've sort of gone their own by Jili,
which is Chinese, so they build and Wuhann ironically didn't
know that, but anyway, they've sort of denied it. So
we'll see where that goes. But it dovetails in with

(12:44):
the UK car production for may lowis level. Since nineteen
forty nine, a new car commercial vehicle production has fallen
by thirty three percent, So excluding twenty twenty when they
did nothing for reasons, the whole industry in Britain seems
to be collapsing and that's all related around terror. Six

(13:05):
to twenty five.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Trending now Humous Warehouse your home of winter essentials.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I assume it means more cars for the rest of
the world, you'd hope. So anyway, listen, they're wrapping last day.
Speaking of Britain. What an angsty old experience has been
this weekend, hasn't it? I mean, climate change, environmental activism,
International Aid, anti Israel. Gary Lineker was there. Bob Villain
plays quite good snooker, Gary Bob Villain and the IDF
stuff that's been looked at by the police. Jade from

(13:31):
Little Mixed led an f you chant towards the Reform Party.
Kate Nash, she had to go with everyone. Rod Stewart,
he came out past work last week apparently in favor
of Nigel Farage, so she called him Farage and JK
Rowling dickheads. Fortunately a bit of class did arrive in
the form of Roderick who took to the stage in
the Legend Slots.

Speaker 11 (13:51):
Still my son gave Rongwood came on Vision Pokmer mixed reviews,

(14:11):
The Alternate Entertainer and some people suggest it's like listen
to an average bar gig.

Speaker 12 (14:22):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Olivia Rodriguez still become snow patrolled then begin at least
the weather was fine. It's swelling. By the way, there's
a heat wave. Heat bomb is one of the British
media called it. Anywhere you want to go through Southern
Europe at the moment, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Bulgaria, London, London's

(14:46):
in the early thirties. I think they could break records
for June. We're almost over June now. Housing back here
in the middle of winter. Where have we got some numbers?
Where were we in January versus where are we now? Well,
it depends obviously where you are in the country, so
will break some of those numbers down for you in
about an hour's time too. A couple of interesting topics,
possibly controversial to deal to with the Prime Minister for.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
You setting the agenda and talking the big issues, the
mic costing breakfast with Bailey's real estate doing real estate
differently Since nineteen seventy three, news togs had been Billy
pleased to know there.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Was an evacuation on a couple of months ago to
Auckland International Airport just to welcome in the holidays. Somebody
burnt the toast. I'm not making this up, the stuff
that happens in New Zealand. Somebody burnt the toast, so
they needed to get the people out of the building.
Once they worked out it was the toast and not
something more serious, the people came back into the building
being time at twenty three minutes away from seven the
big Supreme Court's decision over the weekend. By the way,
if you missed that, Richard Owenold the details we've got

(15:41):
new numbers back home though, on our housing market, there's
a one rue Velocity house value index between the start
of the year and the average and now the average
price hasn't moved nine hundred and sixty six thousand. Is
your value dropped? Who's dropped? Auckland, Hamilton Duneed and Wellington
West Coast Nelson by a plenty gisbon mon of a two?
Anyone left that went up? Yes? South and Canterbury Marlborough. Taranaki,

(16:02):
a Northland CEO of real estate at Velocity. Helen O'Sullivan
is with us Helen morning, Good morning, right, so we're
seeing more sales here.

Speaker 13 (16:11):
That's right. I mean, I think people do focus on
the headline obviously of prices, but when it comes to
the overall house of the real estate market, volumes are
a really key indicator, and we are starting to see
these pick up roughly roughly ten percent up on last year,
and we've seen mortgage registrations are twenty two percent up
on the same time last year, which is a significant list.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, I was reading over the weekend that some of
the banks are having trouble processing the number of people
who were wanting money, so at least there are people
out there, and from what we've previously known, there are
plenty of houses to choose from.

Speaker 13 (16:45):
That's right, there is plenty of stock on the market.
We are seeing the days to sell, which is another
key kind of measure, if you like, of the velocity
of the market. Boom boom is roughly forty seven days,
which is three days longer than this time last year,
which indicates that buyers are feeling no pressure to conclude
those transactions, which will be feeding through ultimately into a

(17:06):
lack of price increases.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
What can you tell us about the money getting cheaper
therefore people getting more bullish, or are we going to
have to wait a while while they get into the
market and the supply drops therefore the prices start to rise.

Speaker 13 (17:19):
But I think even though we have seen those significant
decreases in the cash rate, it is still a confidence game.
And so we do you know, migration tigers have reached
a post COVID lot, the rental market has got plenty
of supply in it, and as a result, confidence is

(17:39):
still somewhat soft. And if you're keeping your hands in
your pocket as far as bending on food and clothing,
you be weary about committing to a house purchase.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
You alluded to it, but immigration must have played a
role because it's tailed off dramatically. Therefore, the demand, I mean,
the new people coming to the country will want a house,
whether it being rent, a little buyer. But if they're
not here, they're not buying, are they.

Speaker 13 (18:00):
That's absolutely correct, and we can see that in the
rental market at the moment. Landlords are reporting that is
considerably more difficult to find good tenants than it usually
than it is normally around this time of year, and
so that is uncouestionably as a factor in that softness.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
What's your sense of the rest of the year.

Speaker 13 (18:20):
I think a lot will determine what happens in the
international space if things settle down into Just as people
were starting to get a bit of confidence, we saw
the tariff wars and actual wars break out, and that
generally has a hit on confidence. People tend to pause
and wait and see what happens. And I get a
distinct sense that the wait and see is the key factor,

(18:44):
and general overall economic conditions we start to see that
pick up, the housing market will follow.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Helen, did have you on the program? Appreciate it? Helen I.
Sullivan CEO of Velocity with us this morning. You mentioned
rentals healthy homes rules come I didn't realize a bit,
so which long time period? So they're healthy homes. We
stuck the world's biggest heat pump into a rental. It's
so big at heat small countries, and also the people
in the house can't afford to run it, so that

(19:11):
was useful. So we did that a long time ago,
and I thought, well, that's obviously part of the new rules.
It's that those new rules don't come in, and they
were renounced in twenty nineteen. They don't come in until tomorrow,
so when you at least I've complied, but apparently lots won't.
We'll look at this up to seven o'clock this morning, nineteen.

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Speaker 2 (21:02):
You know what I'm talking about. What till I give
you the details will blow your mind. Richard Arnold, morning
to you.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Has he got the numbers or not?

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Looks like he might be a raise A close, isn't it?
You know they often say that getting legislation through it's
like sausage making. It's grinding, it's bloody, and you really
don't want to look too closely because no one wants
to know what's in this stuff on the table right
now is what Trump calls.

Speaker 12 (21:25):
His big beautiful bill.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
He's all in one plan. Trump critics don't call it
the BBB. They call it a monster. And the US
Senate was operating through the night last night. Trump Republicans
trying to get through a simple procedural measure to open
the gates for senat devote to begin in full with
a vote on maybe Tuesday or Wednesday this week your time.
They won that effort last night by a single vote

(21:48):
with two Republicans and all Democrats opposing the scene. So
then the dem said, hey, no one's ever going to
read this nine hundred and forty page boondoggles. So they
demanded that the whole thing be read aloud on the
Senate floor, all nine hundred and forty pages. It is
airing on the government's backup TV channel c Span two.
I cannot imagine just who was watching this thing except

(22:10):
me for thirty seconds or so when a Senate clerk
choked up on page six hundred and forty something.

Speaker 12 (22:16):
And I think this was.

Speaker 10 (22:19):
Just score in twenty six sixty six million to be
right from all contributions and to remain available ontil the
end of fiscal year twenty three passage grinding.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah. Behind the scenes, Trump was threatening one of his
own party holdouts, Senator Tom Tillis. He's just grandstanding, said Trump.
He said he's going to screen out of poligal wannabes
who would challenge Less for his seat next year. The
other Republican hold out, with Senator around Paul Trump calls
him crazy. Meantime, Republican Josh Hawley said he was worried
that one point one trillion in cuts to healthcare for

(22:52):
the medicaid and the poor could lead to eleven point
eight million people losing healthcare coverage, including many in his
own state of miss Zouri, where he's goes up for reelection,
But then, under pressure, Hawley now says he will sign
on to the Trump bill anyway, while denouncing the healthcare
cuts as quote unquote bad. What a hero, Mike, what
a courageous standard take do nothing, while saying that what

(23:14):
you're voting for is bad. Elon musk Ben waded back
into politics. Haven't heard from him from it, attacking the
Trump bill quote as utterly insane and destructive end quote.
But no one much bothers about Elon Now he's left
Mara Lago. On the Democratic side, Senator Chris Murphy.

Speaker 15 (23:28):
Says CBO, which is the Congressional Budget Office, nonpartisan, says
it's going to kick between ten and fifteen million people
off their healthcare and for what to be able to afford.
A new two hundred and seventy thousand dollars tax cut
for the richest families in the country, new tax cuts
for corporations, new tax cuts for billionaires.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
This bill sticks.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Paul show about two thirds of the country agree with
that assessment. Well, Senator John Thun, who is hitting the
Trump effort in the Republican side of the Senate.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Says it's time to get the legislation across the finish line.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
The Trump plan is estimated to add nearly three point
three trillion to the dad of folks are wondering. That's
five point four to five trillion dollars New Zealand to
the federal That currently fifty nine point two trillion New Zealand.
If anyone still cares, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
And Scotis came to the party. Yeah, what is happening
with judges here?

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Federal judges are calling for a Justice Department investigating phony
pizza delivery, So let me start with that. What's happening
is that many judges now being sent pizzas they never
ordered to their homes. This sounds weird, right, Sometimes in
the name of Judge Esther Sellas or her murdered son Daniel. Now,
her son was murdered by a lawyer dressed as a
pizza delivery man. Then he killed himself as well. But

(24:40):
Judge Sellers says, others now are using this as a
threat to judges.

Speaker 16 (24:44):
We know the significance and the threat of a pizza
arriving at a judge's house, But.

Speaker 17 (24:50):
In order to pizza, what's the point.

Speaker 16 (24:53):
The point is someone wants that judge. Someone wants those
judges to know I know where you live.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Yeah, this is just discussing meantime, back to scotis the
top judge on the US Supreme Court, John Roberts now
calling on police to tone down their rhetoric. But on
his own court, there is a furious split right now
over Trump's move to give the States a wider roll
over whether everyone born he instantly becomes an American citizen.
Trump opposes that, even though he himself became an American
citizen because of the Constitution's fourteenth Amendment when his mother

(25:23):
was a Scottish immigrant and his dad was German. Also,
Trump's ex Savanna, became a U. S citizen in nineteen
eighty eight. Don Junior was born in nineteen seventy seven.
Vanka nineteen eighty one, Eric nineteen eighty four of Dla gyp. Anyway,
the dissenting lives on the court call their colleagues ruling
now a quote solemn mockery of the US Constitution. Well,

(25:44):
one of those dissenting justices calls a quote existential threat
to the laws. So not a great happy family on
this country's Sonesday.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Appreciate it very much. Just also the using crypto the
Federal Housing Agency. If you go get a mortgage, you
can now use or will be able to use crypto
as currency to purchase your house. And that's the first
meantime newsome Gavin California is suing Fox for seven hundred
and eighty seven million dollars. Why because that's the same
amount that Fox got sued for and the business of

(26:12):
the dominion voting systems anyway, he claims they defend and
they say it's a publicity stance. So we'll see where
that goes. Ten away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, Octurn News Tom Sedb.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
So here's what we found out about So Tama Po
Tucker is on the program Friday says that fun of
Aura is for everybody. So we go looking over the
weekend as funer Aura for everybody. Turns out no, it's
for Maria Pacific Island. It's a race based organization. This
goes to the more unapacific thing goes to the political
advertising thing, all of which we'll raise with the Prime Minister.

Speaker 18 (26:41):
I've been working on my grant request or wrong.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Again, forget it fire look. And then we come to
the business of Ikea. You know Ikea. We banged on
about them endlessly, flatpac furniture and meat balls. Under cultural monitoring,
this is what you have to do with you're Ikea,
and you get your permission. You must undertake a cultural monitoring.
You must under take Kurakia and other such cultural ceremonies.
This is part of the license we gave these people

(27:04):
to build a shop. And you must do this a
prestart meeting. You must do it at commencement of earthworks,
and you must do it immediately prior to completion of
bulk earthworks. So you've got to do it over and
over again. You need to afford the opportunity to provide
cultural monitoring. Manofenawa need afforded access to the site at
their discretion. Mari can simply wander onto the site whenever

(27:26):
they want. How is this possible? You must provide a
minimum of ten working days notice to representatives of Manofenaa
of the anticipated dates of the above milestones as part
of Condition five E following aspects of the design. They
must be consulted on erosion and sediment control, stormwater treatment
and planting, riparian planting, any opportunities for ecological enhancement and

(27:47):
culvert edge walkway design. Very important to talk about the
walkway design. The consent holder i e. IKEA must provide
evidence of this consultation. Is this race base or is
this race base? And as the government that said they
were getting rid of this race based nonsense, yes it
is so the Prime Minister's and for a good time
after seven thirty five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
For the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with
business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Now stilancis stillans is what do they make? They make cars?
Obviously Chrysler, Alpha, Maserati, Citron, Dodge, Fiat, Jeep, Lancier, all
those sort of Anyway, the Ram as well, the RAM
truck used to be a smash at the RAM fifteen
hundred and eighteen percent share of the pickup truck market
in American outs down to eight point four what's happened here? Well,
that was back in twenty nineteen. Today sales are down
thirty eight percent. They're being smashed by everyone else. Their

(28:37):
full sized truck sales have dropped forty one percent. Some
analysts point to their call to go fully electric by
twenty thirty. They wanted to have one hundred percent of
sales in europevs And fifty percent in the US. So
they've since backtracked on that and they've sloped down their
transition like everybody else have. So they've announced a plan
to reappeal to the American market, and that concludes getting
back into supporting NASCAR, because nothing says America like NASCAR.

(29:00):
Also having mechanical bull rides at events. I mean, nothing
makes you want to buy a ram more than seeing
a mechanical bull somewhere and go, my god, once I've
ridden that puppy, I'm going to buy me a ram.
They're bringing back most importantly, and this is the actual
thing that the HEMI V eight. They got rid of
the V eight, and I think they put a B
six in or something ridiculous and they pretended that was
a proper engine. So the vh's back. They're also doing

(29:22):
a big warranty. I read the warranty the other day.
It's a massive warranties, a teen year warranty or something
like that. Anyway, the CEO, who was in retirement, he said,
bugger this, I'm out, I'm back out of retirement. I
want I want to fight. That's what he said. He's
probably been on a mechanical bull, probably been on this
mechanical bull and go I want to come out of
retirement and fight the electric version of the RAM. It

(29:43):
was supposed to be out by ind of last year.
I don't think you've ever see them. I don't think
it will ever happened.

Speaker 17 (29:49):
Is my pick.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Sonny Kochel, and he's got some ideas around retail crime,
some announcements coming this week from the government around retail
crime and against first respect on this. So we'll have
the detail on that directly after the News which is
next Reduced Togs.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
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Speaker 2 (30:14):
Dogs Head be following seven past seven, So crime looks
to be a focus this week. We'll get to the
first responders in the moment, but first the government will
be announcing changes the laws around shoplifting and theft comes
off the back of recommendations from the Retail Crime and
Asterial Advisory Group. The chair of that group, of course,
is Sunny Koschel, who's back with the Sunny Morning.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
Very good morning to you, Mike.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Do you know what's coming.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
Well, Mike, we have already delivered three final reports to
the government and the first one was on citizens arrests,
which to be announced in March. And I would love
to tell you more about the other two reports, but
those are confidential until the government deseasions are announced. But
I'm really excited about what we will be announcing tomorrow.
For too long and the criminals have left felt they're untouchable,

(30:58):
and that's going to change.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
And also my government moving in the right direction as
far as you're concerned, it is, Mike.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
The retail crime is costing New Zealand over two point
eight billion dollars, which is over fifty million dollars per week,
which is over seven million million dollars per day. This
retail crime, Jenny, we need to put back into the
bottle and we need to create a zero tolerance response.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I think last since last time we talked, we've had
that business of the police not responding or claimed not
to respond to anything under five hundred dollars. Is that
being sorted out or has been sorted out to your satisfaction.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
It was sorted out very quickly thanks to the leadership
of the Police Minister and also the Police Commissioner, and
that was turned around very quickly. And also on the reports, Michael.
Over the rest of the year, we will look to
finalize another four for the reports, and this includes a
report on facial recognition technology and a great power for

(32:00):
security guards, which the Minister has talked about publicly. So
I'm really excited what we're going to announced tomorrow and
I'm sure you and the listeners will be two. You know,
these are the changes retailers across the country has been
screaming out for good.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
There will be more powerful retailers coming in some way,
shape or form, either tomorrow before the end of the year,
because that's what you've wanted, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Look I mean, at the end of the day, you know, retailers,
they have been frusted for so long.

Speaker 17 (32:27):
You know.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
The biggest challenge we face is a perception why criminals
that they're untouchable, that there are no consequences for their actions,
that police won't respond and that even if they do
that the courts will let them go. So this sense
of impunity harms us. All this need to stop and
that's the work that we're doing.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Good stop, NOAs to catch up. We'll look forward tomorrow,
Sunny Koschiel, who's the chair of that Retail Crimeate Ministerial
Advisory Group nine. And it's past seven ask. So the
other bit of work that we're getting some movement on
is this crackdown on assaults on first responders. The existing
provision for assault police will be extended to cover the
paramedics that's the AMBO is the fire of firefighters and
the prison officers. Maximum penalty for assault with intent to

(33:07):
injure will increase through five years. Injuring with intent will
increase to seven years. The general Manager of Ambulance Operations
for St John as Duke Coburn, who was with a
stud good morning, Good morning Mike. We're heading in the
right direction here.

Speaker 9 (33:20):
Yes, absolutely, we're supporting any initiative that's going to hold
offenders to account for assaults or violence towards ambulance officers
and other first responders.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
How many attacks are they.

Speaker 9 (33:35):
Well, it's a daily occurrence, often a number of times
a day across New Zealand towards our staff.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Wow, and based on why are these drugged up, drunk
people or just nutjobs?

Speaker 9 (33:48):
A majority of them are drugging alcohol related, but often
just people who for whatever reason one of verbally abuse
will full of physically abuse our.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
People based on what is their problem with somebody who's
trying to help?

Speaker 9 (34:04):
A great question, Mike, and I really want I don't
have a great answer to. Our people come to work
every day to do the best they can for people
when they're sick and injured, and it's just unfathomable to
me that people will verbally abuse or physically abuse our people.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
And presumably that you'd want the courts to back up
these new sentences. But having said that, do they do
you think offer a deterrent or not?

Speaker 19 (34:30):
I hope So.

Speaker 9 (34:30):
We don't know the detail of the bill at the moment,
but absolutely we want people to be held account if
they are arrested and go through the court process. But
ultimately I hope that this actually deters people from even
doing any of this to our people and our fellow
colleagues and the other First responder services.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Do you appreciate it? Stu Carburn, who's the general manager
of Ambulance eleven, pasts really new legislation with harsher penalties
for violence to first responders. I don't care what the
maximum penalty is, what's the minimum because we all know
that's what the judges handouts. Not a bad point, Mike.
The IKEA building requirements to involve all things, Maray not

(35:15):
just racist for straight out corruption. Well that's not true
because if something's mandated or gazetted, it's not corruption because
it's expected of you. If Luxon defends this, then you
can watch him fail. The other one you're interested in
this morning is that one two seven. The education thing
this morning that we dealt with last week with Erica Stamford.
We may or may not get there, but it does
dovetail in to the Napooi thing with Paul Goldsmith. It

(35:38):
seems like the Prime Minister was out of the country
last week and everything went pair shaped because the Narpooi
thing was Goldsmith, if you were listening on Friday, came
onto the program and he reckons that having spent twenty
million already on lunch and air travel, he reckons he
can have Napoo wrapped up in the next two or
three years, as though that's a thing, as though we
should all go off. He'el I thought it was going

(35:59):
to go on for a long time anyway. Chris Luxon
shortly thirteen past.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
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Speaker 2 (36:10):
At b two weeks ago, Michael witness to ambos being salted.
The women kept kicking, punching and pushing two ambo females.
The man called the police. It was dreadful to witness.
There's something deeply wrong with a small selection of New Zealanders.
And there's sixteen past seven now tomorrow, well one tomorrow.
It's the start of July. If you can believe that,
it's also d day for rental properties to make these

(36:32):
healthy home standards. Now, these are the rules of the
previous government introduced back in twenty nineteen. Heating, insulation, moisted, drainage, ventilation,
that sort of thing. So we've got five hundred and
sixty thousand ish rental homes in this country. How many
have made it better group our does inspections of rental
properties than the CEO is Matt Mason who was with us. Matt,
very good morning to you.

Speaker 19 (36:50):
Good morning Mice.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
So it's not like we haven't had time. Do you
think most people have, you know, pulled their finger out
and got it done.

Speaker 17 (36:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (36:56):
Look, I do do think that a lot of landlords,
productive landlords obviously have had a long time to undertake
these properties and give them up to stand it. And
I do think those being proactive have Obviously there has
been a large amount of landlords that have left it
till the last minute and are scrambling now to get

(37:19):
them done.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
What is the I mean, who's following up and what
are the penalties? Is there going to be a sort
of a regime of clampdown or no.

Speaker 20 (37:26):
Look, we haven't directly been involved in any audits, but
we do understand that NBR are undertaking a number of
audits and you know, we'll be issuing fines for non compliance.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Are you under some sort of instruction if you go
into a home and it's not compliant, do you have
to tell someone?

Speaker 20 (37:45):
Look, obviously we're working for the client that engaged us,
and so there's no register or anything like that that
we're obligated to supply that data to other than the
client that's engaged us.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
In general, has it been arduous or did it very
widely depending on what the home was.

Speaker 20 (38:04):
Look, obviously there's a range of quality of rental properties.
Those that have been managed by property managers have typically
been a little bit higher quality and been well managed,
and so that's affected things. But look, largely, you know,
it's been the property that the type of property and

(38:29):
the quality of property out there hasn't been too bad.
And the regulations in pretty simple, it's not hugely are
just no.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
No, exactly, And I would imagine that the change in
the rental market in the last couple of years has
encouraged it, given that, you know, you've got to work
pretty hard as a landlord these days to get people
into the house, so you'd want to make it spick
and span.

Speaker 20 (38:49):
Yeah, definitely, I think that's definitely helped. Obviously, poor landlords
have had a bit of a tough time with interest
rates and things like that financially, which hasn't helped. But yeah,
I think the genuine intent out there from landlords is
to get a better get a better property for their tenants.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Exactly, all right, mattp preciated very much. Matt Mason, who's
with better grad. Earlier on we were talking to the
Velocity people and Helen who was telling us about the
price average of houses around the country. And I reference
the banks at the moment who seem to be under
the gun in terms of applications. Fifteen percent more houses
selling than this time last year, which means there's business

(39:26):
at the banks, and so it's a bit slow. Asb
I know, it's been adding to their team. They've got
a self declared turn around time of six working days,
somewhere between six and ten. The average turn around time
for homelanes via mortgage advisors was five business days or
eight if you were new to the banks. So obviously
there are people out there making applications and the money

(39:47):
you're starting to flow, and presumably the housing market is
going to pick up between now and the end of
the year. Survived till twenty five. Remember that one actually speaking,
which is a very good piece, and I'll come back
to it. Nick Stewart wrote in the Herald over the
weekend economic pergom and all the things that are wrong
with this country and the two step economy. But I'll
work you through the fine detail. Nineteen past.

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Speaker 2 (40:13):
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about survived to thrive and twenty five. That's age like milk.
The RB's recession may have been engineered, but the recovery
certainly hasn't been. But as I say, I'll come back
to that shortly. Now, Amega three you know from fish
oil one of the best supplements you can take, but
most of what you see in the shop, you know,
it's all stock standard stuff. And this is where Lister's

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that plus clinical research conducted at a major university here
in the country, to maintaining independent lab testing and why
are they're doing that?

Speaker 17 (41:03):
Well?

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(41:25):
seven twenty three. In world pressing problems, one of the
bigger longer term ones is due a good looking at
because if we don't, when we get there, we'll want
to shoot ourselves. So ird have been looking at the
cost of stuff and where that money comes from. Now
the trouble, and this is not new, is we have
more older people needing more money and fewer younger people

(41:46):
to work to raise that money to pay those bills.
This is more than super I'm talking about. It's health,
it's pretty much everything. Currently sixteen percent of the population
is over sixty five. By twenty sixty that's going to
be a quarter. So it's going from sixteen percent to
twenty five percent. Now, the other Ird's conclusion people will
likely have to pay more tax really is that it?

Speaker 17 (42:07):
Well?

Speaker 2 (42:07):
No, Actually, somewhere in the advice they mutter something like,
we could always cut costs while bingo there, bingo, bingo, bingo,
give the people a prize. Yes we could. And why
that idea is not top of the pile of ideas
I don't know. Because here's what I do know. Most
of the money to pay for all of this comes
from you and me. Personal tax is over fifty percent
of government income. In fact, it's fifty two percent. Companies

(42:27):
pay seventeen percent, GSTS twenty five percent, a lot of
GSTS from US as well. So in fact, look at
our top tax rate thirty nine cents. Add GST on
top of that, you're at fifty four percent. Fifty four
cents in every dollar. Add the bits and pieces on
top you know, acc road user charges. All that top
income earners will be parting with fifty six or fifty
seven percent of everything they earn. And the Ird advice

(42:51):
is we're going to need more of that? Please? So
how much more? And at what point does it become ruinous?
At what point do the young bright things move off?

Speaker 17 (42:58):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
I mean those are the ones that haven't already gone,
of course, So let's take stock here for a moment
and see where we're at. We're highly taxed. Remember at
the other end, we don't have any tax free component
in our income tax system. We are a low wage economy.
We have a massive savings issue with kiwisaver at an
average of thirty ish one thousand dollars in savings, that's
all we've got, and a fiscal cliff in a bunch

(43:20):
of years where the main idea is will bleed you
for even more tax spot the red flag. So what
to do I mean and how urgently ideas please Cosking.
Speaking of which, our stock market, Greg was telling us
earlier on about the S and P reaching record levels.
At the halfway mark, the New Zealand share market is

(43:40):
performed as about as badly as anyone new we are
in the world this year. First half of the year
it's full and five percent. So if you had one
hundred dollars at the start of the year and you
back the whole market you be down five percent. It's
pretty disappointing, but it's not the end of the world.
That's Mike Lister, who's Craig's investment partner's investment director. It's
pretty disappointing, but it's not the end of the world,

(44:01):
isn't it. New Zealand continues to be a disappointment relative
to other markets, no kidding. And you could say the
same for house prices as well. That's probably a reflection
of the economy. We've been sitting back waiting for the
recovery to take hold, and interest rates have come down.
We're out of recession, but we're still far from firing
on all cylinders. We've got an economy that's sort of

(44:21):
spluttering along and some sectors are really feeling the brunt
of that. There are some company specific issues, he argues,
but for buy and large, if you look at what's
happening around the rest of the world and you have
the look of what's happening here, we to quote next
Stuart are an economic purgatory once again. I say I'll
come back to Nick after the after Chris Luxeon. So

(44:41):
as far as Luxon's concerned, where do you want to start?
Do you want to start on the our farur Aura
investigation over the weekend in which Tama potark are very
clearly stated on the program past Friday that it's an
agency for all. As far as I can work out,
it's not an agency for all at all, unless you
happen to be Maria Pacific Island. Do you want to
go to one two seven on the education business that

(45:02):
we talked to Nicholas Stanford about last week? Do you
want to do the farner or a business with the
mari roll? Do you want to do the funer or
a business with Moana Pacifica or the rugby team. We're
about ten to wait at this particular point in time.

Speaker 18 (45:15):
I mean, when you say it like that, it does
sound like they've been giving out a lot of money
to a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, then then we'll get to NAPUOI speaking of a
lot of may twenty million in counting, and that's two
or three years away. Apparently you want well do you?
I mean, you know, I barely touched the science of this.
So you can see the Prime Minister's got a fair
bit on his plate and he is with us after
the News, which is next.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
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Speaker 2 (45:47):
Twenty three minutes away from eight. The Primis is back
in the country. And as you heard earlier, on a
week of some sort of crime announcements or at least
law and order announcements, we'll hopefully get through some of
those anyway. Christoph Luxe is weill. U's good to see it,
to be with you, Mike, and for people watching this online.
And you brought me the map trying to button me up.

Speaker 12 (46:06):
I'll try to tell you the perhoy to walk Worth
Walkworth Road, which I call the Mike cost Memorial Highway
is now tomorrow is going to be operating at one
hundred and ten case.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
The whole thing my case. Now I'm off your case.
You can be doing your best in a Liam Lawson.

Speaker 12 (46:21):
There's your shoes up there with your hair flowing in
the wind.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
And in the entire New free Way one hundred and
ten kil a moment.

Speaker 10 (46:28):
It's really good.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
So soon, did you bring Amanda some duty free.

Speaker 12 (46:32):
I didn't, mate, I should have. In hindsight, I thought
I should have brought us some Dubai chocolate when I
went through Dubai for the changeover. But I said that
to her when I arrived and she said that would
have been nice, and but I didn't, so, well, yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
That would have been nice. That would have been I
did it fair enough now after.

Speaker 12 (46:50):
I said every day is romanic Valentie's Odlux house.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Okay, Laura. In order the stuff that we've talked about
on the show this morning, it is coming this week
in the form that we've been talking about. In other words,
you're up it on the first responders, and Sonny Koscher
is going to get some action on his recommendations from
this board.

Speaker 12 (47:06):
Yeap hope, So yes, yes, absolutely. I mean their first
thing is tomorrow our new send that sing laws come
into place. That's where we've capped the discounts that judges
can give you might remember, to forty percent. You can't
have multiple remorses, you can't do.

Speaker 10 (47:16):
All that stuff.

Speaker 12 (47:17):
So that's been really good because that's been part of
the problem. And the second thing is today obviously we've
got this challenge on first responders. It's quite frightening. If
you're a paramedic or a fire officer, firefighter, or a
police officer, a prison officer. The assaults on these guys
has been profound, Like there's been nine hundred assaults. I
think last year on the prison officers, eleven hundred on
police officers, and these are key weis that go in

(47:38):
to try and help us into these difficult circumstances. They
don't deserve to get bashed or assaulted, so they're not
saying enough is enough on that.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
One you concern this morning from the text is that
it's all very well to say maximum sentence is what
about the minimum and what are the judges don't back.

Speaker 12 (47:52):
You, Well they need to, we'll look at it again
if they don't. But I mean the pointer is I
think anyone listening to that would just say that's not
right that they know. I've had people say to me, oh, well,
what's the evidence for putting a tougher sentence on them? Well,
I don't really care. I mean I want I want
the firefighters and the paramedics safe. If you're working at
Saint John's, you go to help someone you don't deserve
to get beat.

Speaker 17 (48:11):
Ups, do not?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Are you also announcing something on special development with Tower
wrong of this week? You have a deadline for July
one to announce something with somebody who put applications into you.
Yes on sorry, just in terms of special development in
terms of central government aligning with local government around.

Speaker 12 (48:28):
The city regional dial Yes. Yes, yes, we've got that
work underway. More to say about that very shortly. Yeah, okay,
is it tower on them? I'm not going to say
because there you go, you smile, you gave it.

Speaker 17 (48:38):
What So it is.

Speaker 12 (48:41):
People listening. It's not easy coming on this show.

Speaker 10 (48:43):
No, no, it isn't.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
So it's tower on. So now here's where it's going
to get ugly for you, this business of Ikea and
the moorification of Ikea. And I'm assuming everyone else who
wants to build something in this country explain it to me.

Speaker 12 (48:57):
Well, it's insane. So, I mean, first and foremost, getting
anything built in this country is very torturous. It's quite
a big process. As you know. You saw the issues
that have been raised where you've got lots of challenges
around getting stuff built. I actually met with the Ikea
owners when I was in the Netherlands. Actually it's run
out of the Netherlands, and they actually spoke quite positively
about the resource planning process. I said, I disagree. I said,

(49:20):
I think it's terrible. So we're changing our fast tracked
laws and we've also got the RMA Act being reformed
with new legislation in place.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
So this is Labour's law, not yours. And once your
law comes in this stuff we have to stop all this.

Speaker 12 (49:32):
Dumb stuff that's going on that's making it very difficult
in adding huge amounts of cost to get it.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
So when does that law?

Speaker 10 (49:37):
Everybody?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
When does this stuff stop?

Speaker 16 (49:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (49:39):
So basically Bishop will have a draft in place by
July August and then we'll bring a first reading into
the House to make it law by the end of
this year.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
So any new contract sign will no longer have these
sort of clauses.

Speaker 12 (49:52):
Well, we want all this stuff stripped out right. This
is all dumb stuff that's adding huge amounts of cost.
There's a bunch of things around you and I talked
about the role of regional councils for example going forward,
as well as well as consultation with EWI. We've got
a situation, for example in told on a port where
there's been a dispute going on between EWE District Council
and the port company now for really seven years to

(50:14):
build two simple berths. You've probably got six or seven
ships sitting out there right now. But I'm sorry for
ports we need to be able to crash through all
that stuff and get stuff done and built.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Are you going to be able to go to the
election next year with these laws in place and all
of this tidy up, because your reputation's being hurt by
this ongoing whether it's the previous government or not you're
in charge, by this ongoing idea that you haven't quite
clamped down on what you need to.

Speaker 12 (50:37):
There's three things we're trying to do. First of all,
we kill the madness of RMA two point zero under Parker.
We then put the fast trap provisions in place that's
working really well. It's actually got new people putting projects
in there, which is good. And Chris Bishop's coming together
forward in the middle of the year with a new
proposal for the RMA that simplifies it tremendously prioritizes economic growth,

(50:57):
and you'll take that bill into the House at the
beginning at the end of this year. So we should
be having that process up and running with the.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Focuating completely while you're also away. Funer or are two
things out of them? One Rokal who runs it, says,
Maori issues don't come to the foe with mainstream parties.
Therefore she needed to spend some money on hiring Tom
Eat to spend thirty minutes telling us why you should
enroll in them low role.

Speaker 12 (51:21):
Those allegations are incredibly concerning. If public money has been
used in that way, that is utterly unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Well we know it has.

Speaker 17 (51:27):
Well.

Speaker 12 (51:27):
The second thing I just say to you, though, is
both those organizations use public and private money, and so
the reason for the investigation, which will be done in July,
is to make sure that we need to staying with
the public money has been used for those campaigns.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
I don't think she's claiming private money. I mean the
more one specificar people are claiming private.

Speaker 12 (51:44):
I just want to make we need to make sure
because it's a pretty serious allegation. It's got some pretty
big consequences. It's a good reason for why Tama Potarka
has actually tried to sharpen up funner or a big time.
I mean, we've had three commissioning agencies for in New
Zealand for the last decade or so.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
He's got of them all.

Speaker 12 (52:00):
He's put four brand new ones and that take effect
as of tomorrow. He's also then got new contracting in
place to make sure that we actually do have conflicts
well managed, we have outcomes, really well articulated, good data
that drives into outcomes, and a bunch of common sense
stuff that you would expect.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Right, So, on the surface, the ability of funer Or
to give money to people to make an ad to
encourage people onto the MARII role, which is electioneering, that.

Speaker 12 (52:25):
Would be utterly unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Okay, what will happen if that's the case.

Speaker 12 (52:29):
Well, again, both these organizations are no longer involved in
fun Aura, but we would need to look at prosecutions
and other things that we remedy.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
The same applies to more on a pacificate, because they're
the one. As far as I can work out, the
arguing there was some public money at the start, but
then they argue it's been mainly private money since then,
and you can't.

Speaker 12 (52:47):
Well, I want to be really definitive that you need
to know one hundred percent for sure, given the seriousness
of those allegations, whether the public money has been used
or not, and what recourse if it has been.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Okay, Also, while you're away one two seven the Education Act.
Erica Stamford was on the program about this entrenching to terrrity, etc.
Into the education business in this country. She says Goldsmith's
reviewing it. I was told that Goldsmith's reviewing it because
that's a compromise. It should have been gotten rid of.
You didn't, so you're reviewing it with a view to what.

Speaker 12 (53:19):
Well, there's a couple of things here. The first and
foremost thing is we have to make academic achievement the
priority for these school boards, which is what she's done.
You know, attendance is abysmal, maths and reading. We've got
big jobs to do there. We want that to be
unambiguously the number one priority of many school board. The
second thing, as you're right, there's a huge amount of
treaty obligations and the application of that across a bunch
of education regulation. It's not just in this particular bill.

(53:42):
We want to deal with that in quite a coherent
kind of way because it then and Goldsmith's doing a
bunch of work on the broader treaty clauses and obligations
that are existing in all legislation, and we're working our
ways when we see that, well, he's already started that process,
and there are somebody see it to fix and there
are some that are if he's as fast on this
is he is with Napui, You and I are going
to be you and I are going to be dead.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Well I just say.

Speaker 12 (54:04):
But the other thing is this will go through a
full select committee process as well, so you know there's
an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
So that's well into next year presumable. Well, no, this.

Speaker 12 (54:11):
Particular education bill, people can feed into.

Speaker 17 (54:13):
That their view.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
That's a select committee right now.

Speaker 17 (54:16):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Can that be done separately to the broad based stuff
that you're talking about with Goldsmith or is it all
going to be done separately individually altogether?

Speaker 12 (54:23):
Well, I mean we'll listen to the select committee feedback
of there's strong views. We've obviously got to make the
bill better. If there's things that we can do, there
will be other things that people might think we should
have boards focused on as well. My major focus on
this was to make sure they understood academic achievements freaking important,
because that was rather oddly not even a concern and
no wonder fifty percent of our kids a arrive at
high school not where they need to be on reading,

(54:44):
on the on the treaty piece on the education, there's
a whole bunch of education regulations. There's a massive big
set of education acts that actually have this you know,
the application of those treaty obligations through all of that.
But also it's an other legislation as well, probably up
to forty other bits of Okay.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
So also while you're away, Goldsmith's on the program and
he says Narpooi might be sorted in the next two
or three years, already having spent twenty million dollars on
airfares and lunches. Yes, so as Jones got the answer
with a bill that forces them into a singular deal, Well,
I will take it or leave it.

Speaker 12 (55:16):
Yeah, Well, I mean I think we're getting to a
point where were the carry on and just leave you know,
the Narpooi settlement and on the back burner as it
has been over the last government. And we will either
we find a way through and we're going to give
it one more go. We're going to give it a go,
and we've got new negotiators in place, and we're very happy.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
When you stick a deadline on it, like Bolt you
talked about all those years we either pony app or
you know.

Speaker 12 (55:39):
Yeah, Well, I mean, I mean I've been off the view.
We've got through Probably there's one hundred and fifty settlements roughly,
I think from memory there's over one hundred of them
have been done already. We're now down to some more
difficult ones that have some definitional issues about on the
hierarchy planes. There's obviously the Napooi and the North are
the two big ones. We've got to work our way
through those and try and get those resolved. I want

(55:59):
to get if we get another third of those out
the door, that would be fantastic. Why do we want
them out the door, because actually it's amazing. You just
watch Waikato Tyn do a deal with Brooks billion dollars
on internal people don't want to do a deal thing
about NAPO up north. It's the biggest tragedy in my view,
which is that their failure to actually secure a settlement
means that they're not able to their community.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
But failure, I mean, how much more money do you
want to spend?

Speaker 12 (56:24):
It takes two to tango, but we're going to give
it one more go and.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Thirty seconds or least. Can you explain to me what
final or is is it a race posed organization or not?

Speaker 12 (56:33):
No, I know it's not. It's designed to help all
news Islanders.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
How can you can you know me a single goal
they've given anyone who's not Mario Pacific one.

Speaker 12 (56:41):
I can I mean, if I think about the work
that they do, a different community organizations will be commissioned
to do work on attendance services. There's been some outstanding
work done on childhood immunizations and immunizations with the general population,
led by Maori organizations. So we just believe fundamentally that
actually community organizations that actually have high trust with communities,
that can actually get tasks done that we can't, you know,

(57:04):
social services, tasks and protection.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
So you defend them generally, Yeah, because I mean, Loo,
look at I mean, we spend thirty two billion dollars
on healthcare, we spend one hundred and eighty million dollars
on funal aura right, And yes, I mean, I mean,
you know that's why tam are impressed with how he's gone.

Speaker 12 (57:17):
About trying to tighten it all up and get it
gripped up and change the current set of commissioning agencies.
But if you look at someone like Naitahoo now who
is of tomorrow will take over as one of the
big commissioning agencies, you know that commercial they are literate,
they know their communities are really well embedded in the
eighteen different you know, one hung across the South Island.
They know what's needed, and we should sitting in Wellington

(57:37):
with some bureaucracy trying to perfectly target and deliver cash
to deliver a task of immunizations or getting kids to school.
You know, why wouldn't we try that through community organizations?
And we've had some really great results in those in
those efforts. So yeah, so I still, you know, I
believe in it. I hear your frustration, and I think
that's a frustration we've had as well, which is that

(57:57):
you know, when you're not managing conflicts, when you're not
having real cleric outcomes based contracts, when you're not having
auditing happening, when you're not having data collection to prove
that it's driving and prepped outcomings. Yeah, that's a basic
right when we should be able to sort that out,
which is what Tom is doing.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
All right, good to see ten minutes away from it.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
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Speaker 2 (58:22):
I'm getting more and more concerned that Luxon just continues
to fill us with CEO speak. If we don't see
more results, he'll be looking for a job next year. Mike,
I'm NAPOOI and I think one hundred percent narpoo. We
should get over themselves and settle now. It's irresponsible not
to do so. There are some very overpaid, ego driven
leaders and Pool you love you show very nice of
you to say my favor. I think it comes to
a point where you go, look, we've been at this

(58:43):
for years. It's cost us millions of dollars. We're going
to put a line in the sand, stake in the ground.
Here's the date, take it or leave it, and be
that as it may.

Speaker 17 (58:52):
So.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
I'll work through some more of your feedback later on
in the program. We've got the sport to work cover.
I don't know if there's enough coverage over the weekend
on the business of the apology. G two Team New Zealand.
Do you remember the furor that there was over funding,
There were some accountants, there was a leak and it
all went to court and it all hit the fan.
That has taken years to get settled, and as a

(59:14):
result of that we got the apology. So more shortly
seven away from eight.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
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Speaker 2 (59:23):
Leader when I listened to Luxan these days. Luxan needs
to stop snickering at these issues, Mike. None of them
are likely to happen before the election. This has got
panic in six months written all over it, and so
it goes. I guess the talking point. I mean, yes,
we've got the All Blacks is coming weekend. You gripped
by the French. It's not the full French, it's just
the part French. But a test is a test in
the seasons underway, So I suppose we're excited about that.

(59:43):
But I think the talking point this morning is Lawson
at six. The's got points more points than Sonoda Vestappan
didn't even finish. So we'll talk more about the racing
after the news, which is next.

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Speaker 9 (01:00:07):
Sp it no.

Speaker 18 (01:00:12):
Run come the Broncos who collect the points here.

Speaker 19 (01:00:18):
Warriors won earlier in the year round number seven in
golden points.

Speaker 18 (01:00:21):
But it's the Broncos today twenty six.

Speaker 9 (01:00:23):
Points to twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Norris Whens. The Austrian dram Prix. McClaren won two.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Under Red Bull ring Hamilton and fourth George Russell ll
come home in fifth.

Speaker 18 (01:00:36):
Great day for Liam Lawson in sixth.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Jason Pinne and andrews Herbert. Good morning to you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
It's a very good ratiation. Did you see it? Were
you up in the early hours of this morning or no?

Speaker 17 (01:00:56):
No, but I have caught up with it and ye're good.

Speaker 21 (01:00:59):
On Liam Lawson, lots of drama max for staff and
obviously being clipped and out of the race early on
Laws and having the battle with Alonzo.

Speaker 17 (01:01:10):
I just delighted for him.

Speaker 21 (01:01:11):
You know you saw him after qualifying, how pleased he
was with such a tough year to qualify sixth and
then this morning again to actually convert that into points.
Best of the Red Bull stable, better than Hadja, better
than Sonoda. Not sure what they're going to do with him. Yeah, great,
David Leamore, See this is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
The interesting thing Andrew the well a couple of things
out of the race. One was Carlos Siinz's car burst
into flames after he couldn't get the started, so that
was kind of funny. And then William's Elbown lost as well,
so they didn't get a single point. But Lawson's now
got more points than Sonoda, so Jason's point is good.
So if Max goes to Mercedes and Lawson, they punted
him because he can't drive the car he left with

(01:01:48):
Hadga and Lawson. So suddenly one of the great teams
of motor racing has what a couple of junior drivers?

Speaker 17 (01:01:54):
You mean you mean they get rid of Sonoda.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah, well Sona's going to go at the end of
the year because Honda's gone and they don't like Snoda
at the best thing.

Speaker 17 (01:02:03):
When Liam was struggling with the with the top flight
Red Bull that there was so much made about it,
but Sinoda's struggling and you hardly hear anything.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
No the problem. Well, I think I'm open to correction,
but I think there was so much made about it
based on the fact two things. One we were more
interested because it was a local issue too. Sure, they
killed they killed them after two races. They can't get
rid of Sonoda. They would if they could, but they
can't because he's no better than laws Iners. So if
the same you know, thinking applies, he'd be well gone.

(01:02:35):
You can't two drivers in the season.

Speaker 17 (01:02:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. So they stuck
with them. A couple of things on Liam Lawson. Look
in in previous races that incident with was Antonelli, that
he would have probably had his car written off. That
that's look, that's been Lawson's luck this year. So maybe
this is a turnaround in luck, which you do need
a fair amount of in motor racing. Right. The second

(01:02:58):
issue will this be or how much of a boost
will this be for his confidence going to into the
the second half of the season. That that that's a
that's a strong result, strong qualifying proves his car is
quick in amongst that sort of second tier if you like,
of cars, and this would be this would be a massive.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
You'd believe him in the sense and he said he
said it before and he said it over the weekend
as well, that they are there, they know they're there.
They've got that. Just so many things that need to
come together on the day for it to work. I mean,
you know, who would have thought Carlos sites at the
back of the field, the car blows up and burst
into flames. I mean, you know that's well.

Speaker 17 (01:03:36):
And Lawson has had his share of mechanical issues. Sounds
the guy setting him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
So Yeah, yeah it was.

Speaker 17 (01:03:42):
It was wonderful, A clean run, Yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
And of course this weekend we've got Silverstone and that's
one of the great races of all time. Are you
a little under the weather? They're Andrew got a little
bit of something, a little bit of transseasonal, not.

Speaker 17 (01:03:52):
Just a bit no, just no, I'm fine, thanks, just
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
You don't sound you don't sound. He sounds trouble, doesn't he? Jason.

Speaker 21 (01:04:00):
I think he's fronted up. I think that's very low
normally for not being here, but fronts it up. I
think it deserves the praise.

Speaker 17 (01:04:08):
No yet, that the highlight of my week. The period
I feel the most on top of the world and
most positive is between eight and thirty and a Monday mornings.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
As long as you do you need a bit of
pseudo eph dream or something.

Speaker 17 (01:04:22):
No, no, no, no, I don't like taking stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Okay, Well that might be your problem, of course, couldn't it.
Look I'm not here. I'm not here to give you
medical advice if you want to sound like that. For
the rest of the segment, no problem at all.

Speaker 17 (01:04:33):
I'm still getting over the amount of times the Prome
Minister said friggin and dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah, I know, I don't know what's going on there,
but at least at least the Northern Motorway. Andrew, do
you hear the good news on the Northern Motorway? Is
it starting tomorrow one hundred and ten the whole way through?

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (01:04:49):
I thought you meant building the next stage of the motorway.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Oh that's no, that's out in a minute.

Speaker 17 (01:04:53):
I drove up, I drove up the North this weekend.
Was it one hundred and ten?

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
No, No, it doesn't. I just said it doesn't start
till to my borrow. Well you are you surely even
need some pseudo refor dream cheesez.

Speaker 17 (01:05:06):
I can't comment on whether I was coming or not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
No, now your bit the further but that they got
three three companies down to the bids and they are
now putting their submissions in at which point, by the
end of this year, they will be you. You will
know that one of them has been awarded the contract
and they'll start digging good next year.

Speaker 17 (01:05:26):
So once I might, I might might still be alive
when the road reaches fung Ar.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
I know you had Razor and yesterday Jason as he
fizzling set to go.

Speaker 21 (01:05:59):
Yeah he is and he would be, wouldn't he You know,
had to watch Super Rugby until he could get his
hands on his players. Look, I think we're all but
underwhelmed by the French team that's coming. But that's not
Rais's fault, that's not the All Black's fault. All they
can do is go out there and beat them convincingly
in the next three tests. I think what it will
do is give us an opportunity to see all of
the new players. Looking forward to seeing dup if he

(01:06:20):
get a testable at some point what he does at ten,
Sam will have a view on this. I know Barrett
or McKenzie and whether Riccoe Yoanni plays at center or
Billy Procter does. Riccaue Yovanni seems completely unwilling to discuss
the possibility of playing on the wing, but I think
that's probably where he should play in this current team.

Speaker 17 (01:06:38):
Do all you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Guys in the Weeds always talk like this at the pub, like,
I mean, here's my thing about the or I couldn't
give him monkeys where people play all I wants a
good team on the field and they win the game.
I wonder if he's going to play at first five
I've seen.

Speaker 21 (01:06:52):
Well that's exactly how I talk I talked this way
all the time.

Speaker 17 (01:06:57):
Maybe you need to start living in the Weeds, Mike
and head down to your local boozer a heaven.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Well, I mean, it's just, don't you What we want
is victory, a good side and a good victory. And
whether Barrett's there, all mackenzie's there, or you know, it's
just you want the best players on the field and
to let them win the game. Don't you?

Speaker 17 (01:07:11):
Are you excite to see. I'm intrigued to see how
they play in these French tests because they've picked the
team full of power to try and smack their way
over the game line. If it works against the French
team missing a lot of superstars, well done. But I
still think the spring Box are probably sitting over there
in South Africa licking their chops at the thought of
all Blacks trying to smash them over the game line

(01:07:33):
or backwards?

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
What are we looking forward to, Jason and too, because
I know we talk about the same it's the same
teams every year. It's a bit of Australia, a little
bit of Argentina, a little bit of South As you
know what I mean. It's just like here we go again.
Is it different or more exciting this year?

Speaker 10 (01:07:48):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (01:07:48):
Well, I think South Africa coming in September absolutely. Is
that test on the sixth of September at Eden Park
I think will be Yeah, that's the one, is speak,
That is the one defending that Eden Park record against
the world champion. So as Seth says, we'll come here,
you know, absolutely ready to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
But we'll have a good vibe at that point too,
won't we. How we're looking how we played who we've
beaten all that I mean.

Speaker 17 (01:08:12):
I mean it's it's interesting because they go to Argentina
for the first to opening games. You're Blacks. That's not easy.
The Australian team will be a bit battered, probably from
the Lions series, but Joe Schmid will have them up
with fizzing. So then the spring box came.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Here is that Lions two are boring as I mean,
the Lions two is only interesting if you're playing somebody
good in the Australians.

Speaker 17 (01:08:32):
Aren't the good well, the Force team with the worst
Aussie side, right, they played the Queensland Reds on Wednesday night,
so might be get a better indication. Then.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Okay, I'm a little bit and I confess this at
the start of the show, but I'm concerned about the
Warriors for the following reasons. The only teams that we
lose to are the top teams. So in other words,
we're in that group where as good as they are,
but when we come to playing that level, we lose
and consistently and that's not a good sign.

Speaker 17 (01:09:06):
So what do we do?

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Sam?

Speaker 17 (01:09:09):
I thought of you on Thursday night. That not that
I often think of you on a Thursday night, but
I was watching the Penrith Panthers play the Bulldogs and
that game was a league above anything else, and that game.
In a game like that, I don't think the Warriors
could stick with either of those teams now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
And that's the problem. See, the Panthers are coming right
or have come right, yep, And so that's why we
got beaten by them last week. So I get that.
I wasn't down about that, but I am down against
the Broncos because we've beaten the Broncos and the Broncos
have got it together. We're not getting it together. We
don't look like, you know, we were there or thereabouts
and all that sort of stuff. But it's it's just
we're losing too consistently to those top sites.

Speaker 17 (01:09:46):
And this team the last few years has had flat patches.
Let's hope it's they're not going through one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
And injuries.

Speaker 21 (01:09:54):
Luke MetPath and Chance that one on when Chance went down,
I thought that was he got smacked.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Around all game. Guy got to all about eighteen times.

Speaker 21 (01:10:02):
Yeah, I mean, I know we've had players out in
the season, like Offisher Harris too with us as ship,
but losing Metcalf, that's massive. I must say though watching
you watch the Warriors was one of life's true joys.
Mike Kate, so we again, Did she do that again
over the weekend? You need to go and have a
look at it as absolutely, And.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
How did I not know that she was? I know
she stormed out of the lounge. Did she get the
bit where I stormed out of the lounge.

Speaker 21 (01:10:31):
Yes, but she also got a number of a number
of outbursts which you know would certainly not be not
be welcome on the Mike hosting breakfast.

Speaker 17 (01:10:39):
I can tell you that it's just tremendously you must know,
you must know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
No, no, because she hadn't done it.

Speaker 17 (01:10:45):
No, because I think the giveaway on the video clip
is when she calls out action very very good and
then she and then she redoes your powder at halftime.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
No, no, there's none of that. Hey, listen, just very
quickly because of this team music. I alluded to this
before this Team New Zealand apology that they got right,
do you remember, I mean, saf you must have remembered
the league and all that long ago, I thought, Because
that's my point. My point is the legal process takes
so long, so if you've been wronged which team New

(01:11:19):
Zealand were and you've been proven to be wronged. Should
you not get because you remember at the time that
was a tumultuous story of high drama, so very big headlines.
Then all of a sudden the apology comes in half
a dozen years later, and it's sort of like, oh,
you might see it in the corner if you're lucky,
you know what I mean. There should be a rule
whereby if you were, if you were wronged so publicly

(01:11:40):
at the start, you must be apologized to with with
as big a noise as you were, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 17 (01:11:46):
So at least I think there was an out of
court settlement. I'd be surprised if the company that took
teams in the court and then vice versa, if they're
had any money left at all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Yeahs interesting. Do you see the five million a Jason
five million dollars gain for all Aukland from sale GP.
I was disappointed in that. I only five men. I'd
take five million dollars in any day. But I mean,
Auckland's a big city, one and a half million people,
and you get a bigger thing like that and all
you can do is get chitching five million. That's not much,
is it?

Speaker 17 (01:12:12):
But I think I think what you find, Mike, is
it compared to say Taylor Swift concert or Luke HOLMBS
or whatever. Most of the people watching that are from Auckland,
so they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Travel for a year. No good point. Yeah, So I
don't know is that worth it because it's just been
to twenty six centl Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:12:30):
I think I was surprised, surprise they didn't go for
a longer dealt we're coming back next year. Obviously, Russell
Coats wanted a five year deal. I think that is
on the table. I think it will go beyond the
one year, but then ship it in.

Speaker 17 (01:12:41):
I have it every year there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
All right, nice to see you guys. We'll catch up
next week. Andrew Sevill and Jason Pine get better, SAP.
It's say twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
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some support, but the support isn't great in terms of volume.
I think it would be really important to get a
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a bad idea.

Speaker 18 (01:14:23):
You couldn't do it during Window DA because we will
have enough power.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Probably sounds a cold morning. We'll put the start at
three o'clock once the sun comes out. News for you
in a couple of moments. Then we'll cross the Tasman
and catch up with Steve Price her News Talk ser.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Christiana Ronaldo's got a new contract and he's in the
Middle East, and I'll give you the numbers in just
a couple of moments. And I think about him recently.
Do you not want to if you're Christian Christiana Ronaldo
play for somebody important? In other words, you don't want
to plan a league? No one cares about. No one
cares about the league that he's in the Saudi Pro League,
Golden Boot, whatever you call it league. Here's what he's

(01:15:27):
getting paid. He's getting paid one hundred and seventy eight
million pounds a year, so that's three seventy three seventy
three eighty million. He's got fifteen percent ownership of the team.
It's valued at sixty million. He got a fifty million
dollars signing bonus. That increased to about seventy seventy five
million dollars if he activates the second year of the contract.

(01:15:48):
He gets paid one hundred and sixty one hundred and
seventy thousand dollars per goal. That increases twenty percent in
the second year. He gets about eighty thousand dollars per assis.
So what are you gonna do is pass the ball?
He goes, Hey, they're it a you, ad Graham. He
gets sixteen million dollars if his team wins the Saudi

(01:16:10):
Pro League. I mean, who else, namely four teams in
the Saudi Pro League. You can't. He gets eight million
if he wins the Golden Boot. He gets twelve million
if they qualify for the Asian Champions League and win it.
Currently he's got sixteen people working full time for him,
including three drivers, for housekeepers, two chips, three gardeners and

(01:16:32):
four security people. He gets eight million dollars worth a
private jet time covered by the team, and he gets
one hundred and twenty million dollars worth of sponsorship deals
as well. But so yes, he's got a lot of coin,
a lot of housekeepers. But as is he happy?

Speaker 18 (01:16:47):
Tell you what if they want me to do like
a Saudi radio show over there that nobody listens to,
I would do it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
I'd do it.

Speaker 18 (01:16:58):
I'd do it for one hundred million, but I need
five gardeners.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
No worries, twenty one minutes away.

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Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
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Speaker 19 (01:17:11):
Yeah, it's like live golf. No one cares about that either.
I mean all those big name golfers have gone off
the plane lived. I mean when did you watch a
live golf to on them on television.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
That's a funny thing, isn't it, Because you get paid
on live every weekend, and so you into the weekend
knowing you will get a check of some description. And
you've got to think at some point that that takes
the fizz out of it, doesn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:17:34):
Well, Cameron Smith, I mean, the great golfer was going
to be number one in the world and what does
he now? No one knows. He just disappeared.

Speaker 10 (01:17:42):
Weird.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Now, this is the problem, of course, with the five
percent of NATO. Last week in the Big Wing for
Trump as a muse with China goes hello, five percent
is it? And you've got trouble, don't you?

Speaker 17 (01:17:53):
You do?

Speaker 19 (01:17:53):
And the relationship between Australia and the US is at
its lowest level I can ever remember in my whole life,
which is not for Australia given how little we do
spend on defense, which you and I've talked about before.
But the Chinese ambassador to Australia has written in the
Australian newspaper today that he thinks that you know, we're friends,

(01:18:15):
we don't need to be spending a lot of money,
not foes. Beijing's military said they're built up was normal
and it was a just one point five percent of
the Chinese GDP was being spent on the People's Liberation Army.
And he doesn't see the problem for Australia to keep
spending what it's spending. Well, of course he wouldn't because
we're not spending enough and we're absolutely ready for the

(01:18:38):
right for the taking now. Anthony Aberneze's problem, Mike is
that he's still not met Donald Trump, he's not seen
him face to face. And next month he goes to
China for a meeting with Ji Jinping, and so he's
going to see the Chinese leader before he sees the
American president who runs the biggest military in the world,

(01:19:00):
which is supposed to be our ally, it's not a
good look. Penny Wong, the Foreign Minister, she is in
Washington this week. She won't meet Trump either, but she's
over there to attend something called the Quad, which is India,
the US, the UK and US, I believe, and so
she'll be talking to the Americans. But Anthony Albniz is

(01:19:20):
still nothing. I mean, he's pledged to spend what he
needs to spend, only he will not take it up
to three point five percent. It's going to be somewhere
down lower than much lower than that. And we're just
completely exposed. So I don't know how they're going to
repair this problem. Donald Trump probably doesn't care. He's got

(01:19:40):
too much else on his plate to be worrying too
much about Australia, and so we're stuck in the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Interesting, now, so can Victoria. When Victoria's getting in your
own version of the voice, where does it stop and
where does it start? The reason I said I was following.
There was a new South Wales budget last week. There
was a Queensland budget. I can't remember, was it Friday
or whenever it was. How much of your life is
dictated to you by state v federal?

Speaker 19 (01:20:05):
Well, every every small annoying tax is what gets you,
particularly in Victoria. I remember they've just set up a
whole bunch more speed cameras which will pin you with
if you're doing forty two in a forty zero I
find of which I got last week. So you pay
two hundred and seventy five dollars for that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
By the way, can you kill a meters an hour?

Speaker 10 (01:20:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:20:28):
Two k over the limit. I get slugged two hundred
and seventy five dollars and I lose one demerit point
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Oh my camera, because I'm interested in this and that
is that a cop or is that a camera?

Speaker 19 (01:20:42):
I can't remember it's a camera. It's not a police
officer pulling me over, and say, how do.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
They justify your point on your license? If you could
go that wasn't me.

Speaker 19 (01:20:54):
We can go to court via a lawyer if you want,
but no one does, so they just pizza. I'm now
at eight demerit points. The maximum you can have is twelve,
So you know, I'm getting up there and you don't
know where these things are. They're just stuck stuff on
an intersection. I went back through my diary, looked at

(01:21:14):
the street and thought, oh, well, you know, I guess
I was going down there, but I didn't realize I
was doing forty two, not forty, and so I get
slugg to hundred and seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Five kason hour plus a demerit point. It's like a
police state, it is.

Speaker 19 (01:21:29):
I mean, you shouldn't be on your phone, I know,
in your cab, but if you've caught on one of
the phone cameras, it is four demerit points. And I
think at three hundred and fifty dollars fine, So do
that twice you can lose your license. So it's not great,
not great. No, Yeah, the voice well got voted down
by this training public. Obviously, Victoria has had something called

(01:21:52):
the URUK Justice Commission meeting for the last three years.
They've now come to a point where the first People's
Assembly is going to be created, a state based version
of the Voice. The government won't spill out exactly what
it's going to be. It'll end up being a treaty
expected to be able to provide advice on This is
the keyy all laws and government policies that affect Indigenous Victorians,

(01:22:17):
everything from health and education to crime and development. So
basically they've got a seat at the cabinet table.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Unreal. And then so you're still saying not guilty or
maybe not guilty. My wife agrees with you. Actually she's
followed it a bit more than either. She says she
wouldn't be surprised remotely if she gets off today.

Speaker 19 (01:22:35):
Yea very sensible and smart and obviously the more clever
one in the family here. The jury will go out today.
We think the judge was wrapping up on Friday. He's
going to come back this morning in more Well and
continue to direct the jury. He said very interestingly, Justice

(01:22:55):
Bill that just because Aaron Patterson and this is what
you need to listen to it might have told lies
after a deadly beat Wellington lunch she hosted. It did
not mean she should be found guilty. The comment was
made as he continued his charge to those fourteen jurors
that are repaired back to twelve. That's the key. Yeah,

(01:23:16):
that's the clee. Yeah, I will be right, you will
be wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Okay, Now that's fine. And do you think that they
go out today? They'll be back by Wednesday when you're
on the program or not.

Speaker 19 (01:23:27):
I hope. So, I mean if they come back Thursday
or Friday, I'll come and talk to you. Anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
I'm going fantastic. Well, Steve Price out of Australia back
on Wednesday and we'll see how we go there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Mike, she told lies, But who cooked the meal? She
sawce the mushrooms, she disposed of the hydrator, she had
a different plate. How much swaying of the jury are
they going to see? Yeah, that's sort of what I
would base it on. She's seen fairly. But of course
did she set out to kill them? Which is what

(01:24:05):
the charge of murder is all about of course, Mike,
and Australia speed camera automatically allocates the demerits to a
registered vehicle. Ower. What's worse in Victoria the automatic allocation
of demerits whether you were driving the carra or not,
or the fact you get pinged for two k's. I
mean two k's are ridiculous. That's pathetic. You can write
in and name who was driving if it wasn't you, Mike.
In Australia, until recently people were being paid fifteen hundred

(01:24:27):
dollars a point to say it was them in the car.
It's good coin, isn't this? Is that true or an
urban myth?

Speaker 10 (01:24:34):
Mike?

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Another great recommendation thinks Brassic is excellent. It says well
worth it. If you haven't discovered over the weekend, get
amongst Let me ask you this question and give me
an answer if you know it. So reading about the
meat plants at the moment. So one of the things
we know about the economy at the moment is where
making it. We got another dairy auction this week, by
the way, on Wednesday. But one of the things we

(01:24:54):
know about the economy is the farmers are doing brilliantly
for us. Meat is being sold like it's never been
sold before all over the world, particularly to America. Though,
and yet I also read over the weekend that meat
plants are struggling to match low volumes of livestock. So
does that then lead you to ask the question, if
we had more cattle and sheep, we'd process more of

(01:25:17):
them and sell more. Or are we getting good returns
based on the fact that we're not making enough meat?
Very competitive environments, so the farmers are getting a good return,
But Silver Fern Farms, they're appalling thousands of seasonal workers
off the chain to match capacity with the supply of livestock.
Supply of livestock isn't there. We've got about three thousand
of our workers on seasonal layoff right now, which normally

(01:25:38):
would be running full steam aheads. So on one hand
we're hearing the good news about bringing the money in
on red meat. On the other hand, we're not doing
as much as we could. Why aren't we doing more?
Answer me that question. If the money's there, and the
markets are there, and the demand is there, why aren't
we doing more? And why are so many people on
seasonal leave at the meat works, what's going on? Nine

(01:25:58):
to nine?

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
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Speaker 10 (01:26:04):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
I know a lot of you are saying pine trees,
and I think I'd already worked that one through, which
is sort of the answer. I get that part of it.
But my question is more along the lines of if
we And maybe that's true, I don't know, But my
question is if we had more stock, could we sell more?
Or are we maxed out in terms of international markets
and the return from And it just happens that the

(01:26:27):
freezing works used to be bigger than they are and
now they're down. Do you see what I'm saying? So, yeah, no,
it probably is the trees in terms of actual production.
But even if we could do more, would we be
able to do more? Is my question? I think I
watched very briefly over the weekend. I had no idea.
One of the great joys of my life is I
got a couple of fig trees. I didn't they were
already there, and so I thought this would be interesting

(01:26:48):
because I was always told that things are hard to grow,
and I've done nothing to them and they just grow
like this. No tomorrow and they're sensational. What I didn't
realize they're a flower. They're an actual flower, and when
you open them up, that's the flower itself. They're just
not pollinated, hence they don't open anyway. The reason I
watch I saw Ben Bailey. Ben Bailey the Chef has
got this program called New Zealand Food Story on I

(01:27:10):
can't remember Saturday or Sunday night. It's brilliant and they
talk to a fig grower. What I also didn't realize
is how many different sorts of figs there are. And
they're incredible, the most amazing thing, and of all the
fruit trees I've got, it's the most brings me, the
most joy of the figs. And yet I don't like
them and I don't eat them, which I always think
is kind of ironic.

Speaker 18 (01:27:30):
But are you sure they're figs?

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Are not persons that are under different circumstances, Glenn would
be one true and be funny, but on this I
am one hundred percent certain that they are indeed figs.
Five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I just texted Katie before and I said. The guys
in the sports said that you film me again? And
she goes, what, I don't know what you're talking about?
What a liar?

Speaker 9 (01:28:00):
Say?

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Here we go, let's go.

Speaker 10 (01:28:02):
Do they break? Here we go?

Speaker 17 (01:28:03):
Play it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Play, get out, play, get up? Play Look you're there?

Speaker 17 (01:28:10):
What the doing?

Speaker 10 (01:28:12):
Oh say, listen to music?

Speaker 13 (01:28:13):
Get you.

Speaker 10 (01:28:17):
So Jesus Christ, ho for off off next forward to
it in gonn to school and fast. But there's no
one there, you know, looking.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Unfablievable. Six seconds to go. Oh nice, tech hoo, we've
got it.

Speaker 12 (01:28:44):
Yes, well done.

Speaker 13 (01:28:47):
Oh come on nice, come on, go go.

Speaker 7 (01:28:56):
Go run striper.

Speaker 18 (01:28:58):
Un confused?

Speaker 12 (01:29:05):
Were we in this?

Speaker 18 (01:29:06):
It was a waste of time. The real roller coaster rye.
Wasn't it to roll the coast?

Speaker 17 (01:29:13):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:29:14):
I said.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
I stormed out of the lounge at the end, and
I saw her on the phone, and I said, you
better not be filming me. Don't film me.

Speaker 18 (01:29:21):
Do you guys have your own defibrillator by just in case?

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Actually i've got health news. I don't have time to
tell you. I've got health news. I got oh that's
a bubble, No, I've got health news. And I talked
to Kate extensively about it yesterday and I don't know
whether it's good or bad health news, so I'll have
to come back on this one tomorrow. Ryan Fox is back,
Little's Aha of the Open. Of course, he's in California,
I think, at the moment before he hits to Scotland. Anyway,

(01:29:47):
all of that's still the come tomorrow after six as always,
Happy Guy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
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