August 21, 2025 • 10 mins
Back by popular demand, Sir John Key is back alongside Kate Hawkesby and Mike Hosking to Wrap the Week that was.
This week the former Prime Minister is calling in from a super yacht in Croatia, discussing the Warriors, Father’s Day, and ChatGPT.
Plus, Kate tells a story about Lebanese food.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And where do we find some Rando this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Good morning, morning Rando reporting for service. Morning Caddy. I
am actually in a little place called Revenge, not to
be confused with revenge, something that politician's often them barking.
And it's in Croatia. So I've moved from Napa Valley
to Croatia.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Beautiful little spot, fantastic And what what happened?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
What is it about former prime minister spending so much
time out of the country.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Did you send a ruined New Zealand for you too?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, without doubt. But yeah, no, we're actually
we're having a fabulous time. We're on a super yacht,
which I affectionately called the Gin Palace, and I got
in trouble last time called the Gin Palace. But look,
you drink a lot of gin. Although at the moment
they're all sitting out the back drinking lemon cello. I'm
on the soda waters drinking lemon cello and it's very palacious,
(00:50):
so I can't see why it's not a Gin Palace.
But yeah, I find myself in Croatia having a lovely,
lovely time.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
How big is the yacht?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Seven meters so one hundred and thirty eight feet or
some one hundred and forty feet something like.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That, and you've got your own camp.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
The biggest.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
We're the biggest.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We're absolutely we're the biggest, biggest ship in the harbor.
So we attracked a lot of attention, you know, I mean,
mostly good, mostly good.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I can't believe you asked if he's got his own cabin.
Did you think he'd be like bunking in with the.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Would No, no, no, I just thought you might come
in on a tender and sort of go back to
a hotel and your friend might have pulled in for
the night. I don't know anyway, No, sort of a tender.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Okay, yeah, we're a big one of those. But anyway, yeah, Okatie,
I know this is the week in review just before
you get there. Yes, are we not celebrating when are
we not celebrating the warriors being the dragons?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes, we should do. It's a very very good point. Well,
it's not a concern for this weekend. But we're just
out of the top forty. You realize you follow all
of this, we're out of the top four because we're
five at the moment. But we need to get back in.
But they the other team that's left us has one
more game. Blah blah blah. Anyway, the point will be
we should when this weekend we'll be back in the
top four. And are you optimistic? Is that what you're
(02:03):
suggesting to me?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah? Yeah, you heard it here first, not sending three
losses to the Titans. We're going to beat the Titans
on on Saturday night. And and am I that are
made of Max's Jamal and Tyler they owned a business
called Dynasty, and Dynasty make the jerseys both of the
Titans and the Warriors. And so Katie, that could be
an excellent present for our father's day.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Glad you raised Father's Day.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Johnson, hold on, but he'd looks so good in it.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So hang on. So Jamal and Taylor make the jerseys.
So Jamal and Taylor on you? Or are they just
separate people.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
There playing Texas so we're out here spending the Texas.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So Jamal and Taylor make the jerseys? How do you
get a contract to make the jerseys?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
They owned Dynasty. It's a great little Kiwi successory. They
owned Dynasty and didn't they makes the jerseys for I
think about half dozen teams. But I tell you what.
The Warriors fans are the most loyal fans. They tune
up to every game, all these jusies. I've seen these
pictures of you at home watching the Warriors games, Mike,
and you haven't been dressed in the Juwsey. You've been
(03:16):
in a burberry jacket something I don't know, something that
you brought somewhere. And I just thought that this was
an opportunity for Kate, with Father's Day coming up, to
dress you in the appropriate attire and you could post
that how nice with that.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's a very nice point. And Katie, I asked you
the other day, I said, what sort of thought and
energy have you put into Father's Day? And your answer
was literally none.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well, it's not really the sort of question you're supposed
to ask as the recipient father. You know, you're not
meant to be pre you know, you start pre loading
Father's Day about three weeks in advance, asking what plans
we're making, what's being done for you, and then you
start bringing up things like websites with things you might
be looking at, and it's just it's not really how
it's supposed to work.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It's not a bad idea though, but the reason John.
It's a good point. The reason I don't wear the
Warriors jersey is they send me one each year. They
send me a larger one than I am, and I
sort of you know, I look, I really am just
an what do you call it in l andm x EM.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I think it's the right.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
There's nothing wrong with that. Don't worry, Kate. Just remind
Michael John the day's father STA. It's a very good point, Jackie.
Thank you. Kate. So chet chobyt tell us the story,
because I think this is interesting. So you're on chet
chept and it's now arguing.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
With you, and it's yes, it's arguing with me.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
No, no, no, no, Kates on Cheate.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
What she asks is you Is she being argumentatively?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Are you sure you're on the side of waters John?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So you I am absolutely on the side, just checking
the crew, not topping anything extra into that soda water.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
No, no, no, no, do no?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Okay, good.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Well, So here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I heard you raised it earlier, and I can't, for
the life of me, remember exactly what it was I
was arguing with chet gipt about, but I know that
I specifically asked it something that I knew the antswer two,
and it came back and basically said no. So I
went back and said, no, that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And then but you knew it to be wrong, right,
I knew.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
It to be wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It argued back with me, and I thought, this is
how it ends. They're going to become No, it alls
wipe out humanity by calling us stupid.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
They've got no empathy. I think we've become too reliant already.
We've gone to a default position whereby that we asked
chat GPT or whatever bot it is what the answer is,
and we assume it's right, even though it is or
may not be, and we would have a clue. So
we're in trouble with that, aren't we.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Well, you know, the research says it's it's leading to
sort of brain rot.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And I discussed this with my daughter the other day
and she agreed, because basically, they contract.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Out their whole lives.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Now, they get advised, they get everything on chat GPT,
so they're not using their brains to think cognitively like
you know we did.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I worry about it. By the way, John, the super
yacht thing, do you reflect on a seven five seven?
You'll be aware that we've gone and bought as of yesterday,
a couple of new long range plans and some new choppers,
And I mean you must have sat on that seven
five seven a number of times stranded around the world
and thought this is just embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, that plane was pretty old and tired, and it
broke down a couple of convenient places like Hawaii once
in Townsville, and that was sort of useful, but outside
of that just run its time. I think, yeah, look, realistically,
we probably need a different version to what we've even bought.
We actually probably need something that's smaller and more convenient
(06:34):
for the Prime Minister of the day and for a
small bunch of media and some people that travel because
because the planes have brought us till very big planes,
and then you'd have an alternative big plane. But I think, yeah,
the politics of it, it's just so horrible that you
end up having to buy, you know, a three twenties
or they're bought, and I kind of get that, but yeah,
unfortunately planes are not cheap, but they don't last forever
(06:56):
and you need to probably move them on they're done.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Do we need super yachts, Well, if we didn't want
to increase the nature were probably do after the man
of the man.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Of unfortunately reduced the navy by twenty percent or whatever
went into the reef. It was surveying, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Can happen, though it can happens.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean it's not solely limited the New Zealand neighbor.
The cost of Concordia that one. That one other problem
as well, So you can have issues.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Are you are you ever coming back or because you
know I speak, I speak on behalf of a lot
of people that you are mist Are you ever coming back?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Or is this you as this you now just floating
around the world on soup yochts back.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
To politics or back to New Zealand came.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, no, no, no, no no. I'm back and I'm
back in about two weeks actually, so that'll that'll be good.
It's been a it's been a great trip. But you know,
I still love coming back to News and we spend
you know, seven or eight months of the year there,
but I know, I sort of travel around and we
brand and I going to different things, holidays and you know,
too hot, and.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So it's nice.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
You know, you can get the Mike Hoskins show in
the Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's that is true global, It's global. Can you do
tell us your Lebanese food story?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Because that this don't make me tell that story. It's
so embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's it's such a lovely story. If you listen to this, John,
this is a quintessential Kiwi helping Kiwi story. This will
bring a tear to your eye on the super yacht.
And remember, wherever you are, revenge, I also revenge.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I was just trying to help.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I was just trying to help out a struggling Auckland CBD,
which a lot of them are hospital I saw on
the news, which I don't watch the six Colt news anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I haven't been walking past. And I saw this woman
and I'm not even sure of the story, but it
was about the CBD dying probably and.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
She was struggling and she was carrying food and saying
it's really hard to get business.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
And I thought, course, that food looks good. I'm going
to ring and order some and support them and go
in and get a whole bunch. So I looked at
their menu and I ordered a bunch of food.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I don't know what it was, Lebanese Mediterranean, but at least,
and there were some Arabic salads and I ordered Mike
what I thought was some Cypriot interesting salad dish with chicken,
and I left it on the bench from because I
was going out, and there's lunch.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Butyer. It's a really nice Greekish salad. It's got chicken.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Anyway, he bites into what he thought was chicken and
he said, I couldn't work out why my mouth was squeaking,
and it was tofu. So that that unfortunately, but we.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Helped the lady out and it was it was fabulous food.
What's the name of the place, do you remember?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I think it's Emma Ima Street in the city.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
It can't be as bad as the chicken I had
when I was when I was a young man, I
went home after we got married and stuff, and we
went back to christ each my mother, who was notoriously
a horrible cook and actually held on things for a
bit too long. I went around, I was about twenty
three or twenty four, and I opened the fridge and
I started buying some chicken she left in the fridge,
(09:50):
and I said, oh god, Mom, this' chicken is as
hard as can be if you're that poor. I'll buy
you if I'll buy you a couple of chickens and
put them in the freezer. And as you know, my
mother was Austrian. Because for good news sake, John, it's
only three weeks old. It wasn't good And then was
there the idea of a fresh chicken? Yeah? He was
so port lyd you go off, hey, academy as bad
(10:11):
as the TOPHI that.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
No, exactly. It'sen nice to see you. You have a
good time in revenge and on your suit you will,
and Katie you have a good weekend. Appreciate it. Lovely
to see you both.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
For more from the Mike Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news Talks.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
And where do we find some Rando this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Good morning, morning Rando reporting for service. Morning Caddy. I
am actually in a little place called Revenge, not to
be confused with revenge, something that politician's often them barking.
And it's in Croatia. So I've moved from Napa Valley
to Croatia.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Beautiful little spot, fantastic And what what happened?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
What is it about former prime minister spending so much
time out of the country.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Did you send a ruined New Zealand for you too?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, without doubt. But yeah, no, we're actually
we're having a fabulous time. We're on a super yacht,
which I affectionately called the Gin Palace, and I got
in trouble last time called the Gin Palace. But look,
you drink a lot of gin. Although at the moment
they're all sitting out the back drinking lemon cello. I'm
on the soda waters drinking lemon cello and it's very palacious,
(00:50):
so I can't see why it's not a Gin Palace.
But yeah, I find myself in Croatia having a lovely,
lovely time.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
How big is the yacht?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Seven meters so one hundred and thirty eight feet or
some one hundred and forty feet something like.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That, and you've got your own camp.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
The biggest.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
We're the biggest.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We're absolutely we're the biggest, biggest ship in the harbor.
So we attracked a lot of attention, you know, I mean,
mostly good, mostly good.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I can't believe you asked if he's got his own cabin.
Did you think he'd be like bunking in with the.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Would No, no, no, I just thought you might come
in on a tender and sort of go back to
a hotel and your friend might have pulled in for
the night. I don't know anyway, No, sort of a tender.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Okay, yeah, we're a big one of those. But anyway, yeah, Okatie,
I know this is the week in review just before
you get there. Yes, are we not celebrating when are
we not celebrating the warriors being the dragons?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes, we should do. It's a very very good point. Well,
it's not a concern for this weekend. But we're just
out of the top forty. You realize you follow all
of this, we're out of the top four because we're
five at the moment. But we need to get back in.
But they the other team that's left us has one
more game. Blah blah blah. Anyway, the point will be
we should when this weekend we'll be back in the
top four. And are you optimistic? Is that what you're
(02:03):
suggesting to me?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah? Yeah, you heard it here first, not sending three
losses to the Titans. We're going to beat the Titans
on on Saturday night. And and am I that are
made of Max's Jamal and Tyler they owned a business
called Dynasty, and Dynasty make the jerseys both of the
Titans and the Warriors. And so Katie, that could be
an excellent present for our father's day.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Glad you raised Father's Day.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Johnson, hold on, but he'd looks so good in it.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So hang on. So Jamal and Taylor make the jerseys.
So Jamal and Taylor on you? Or are they just
separate people.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
There playing Texas so we're out here spending the Texas.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So Jamal and Taylor make the jerseys? How do you
get a contract to make the jerseys?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
They owned Dynasty. It's a great little Kiwi successory. They
owned Dynasty and didn't they makes the jerseys for I
think about half dozen teams. But I tell you what.
The Warriors fans are the most loyal fans. They tune
up to every game, all these jusies. I've seen these
pictures of you at home watching the Warriors games, Mike,
and you haven't been dressed in the Juwsey. You've been
(03:16):
in a burberry jacket something I don't know, something that
you brought somewhere. And I just thought that this was
an opportunity for Kate, with Father's Day coming up, to
dress you in the appropriate attire and you could post
that how nice with that.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's a very nice point. And Katie, I asked you
the other day, I said, what sort of thought and
energy have you put into Father's Day? And your answer
was literally none.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well, it's not really the sort of question you're supposed
to ask as the recipient father. You know, you're not
meant to be pre you know, you start pre loading
Father's Day about three weeks in advance, asking what plans
we're making, what's being done for you, and then you
start bringing up things like websites with things you might
be looking at, and it's just it's not really how
it's supposed to work.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It's not a bad idea though, but the reason John.
It's a good point. The reason I don't wear the
Warriors jersey is they send me one each year. They
send me a larger one than I am, and I
sort of you know, I look, I really am just
an what do you call it in l andm x EM.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I think it's the right.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
There's nothing wrong with that. Don't worry, Kate. Just remind
Michael John the day's father STA. It's a very good point, Jackie.
Thank you. Kate. So chet chobyt tell us the story,
because I think this is interesting. So you're on chet
chept and it's now arguing.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
With you, and it's yes, it's arguing with me.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
No, no, no, no, Kates on Cheate.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
What she asks is you Is she being argumentatively?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Are you sure you're on the side of waters John?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So you I am absolutely on the side, just checking
the crew, not topping anything extra into that soda water.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
No, no, no, no, do no?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Okay, good.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Well, So here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I heard you raised it earlier, and I can't, for
the life of me, remember exactly what it was I
was arguing with chet gipt about, but I know that
I specifically asked it something that I knew the antswer two,
and it came back and basically said no. So I
went back and said, no, that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And then but you knew it to be wrong, right,
I knew.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
It to be wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It argued back with me, and I thought, this is
how it ends. They're going to become No, it alls
wipe out humanity by calling us stupid.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
They've got no empathy. I think we've become too reliant already.
We've gone to a default position whereby that we asked
chat GPT or whatever bot it is what the answer is,
and we assume it's right, even though it is or
may not be, and we would have a clue. So
we're in trouble with that, aren't we.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Well, you know, the research says it's it's leading to
sort of brain rot.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And I discussed this with my daughter the other day
and she agreed, because basically, they contract.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Out their whole lives.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Now, they get advised, they get everything on chat GPT,
so they're not using their brains to think cognitively like
you know we did.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I worry about it. By the way, John, the super
yacht thing, do you reflect on a seven five seven?
You'll be aware that we've gone and bought as of yesterday,
a couple of new long range plans and some new choppers,
And I mean you must have sat on that seven
five seven a number of times stranded around the world
and thought this is just embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, that plane was pretty old and tired, and it
broke down a couple of convenient places like Hawaii once
in Townsville, and that was sort of useful, but outside
of that just run its time. I think, yeah, look, realistically,
we probably need a different version to what we've even bought.
We actually probably need something that's smaller and more convenient
(06:34):
for the Prime Minister of the day and for a
small bunch of media and some people that travel because
because the planes have brought us till very big planes,
and then you'd have an alternative big plane. But I think, yeah,
the politics of it, it's just so horrible that you
end up having to buy, you know, a three twenties
or they're bought, and I kind of get that, but yeah,
unfortunately planes are not cheap, but they don't last forever
(06:56):
and you need to probably move them on they're done.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Do we need super yachts, Well, if we didn't want
to increase the nature were probably do after the man
of the man.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Of unfortunately reduced the navy by twenty percent or whatever
went into the reef. It was surveying, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Can happen, though it can happens.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean it's not solely limited the New Zealand neighbor.
The cost of Concordia that one. That one other problem
as well, So you can have issues.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Are you are you ever coming back or because you
know I speak, I speak on behalf of a lot
of people that you are mist Are you ever coming back?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Or is this you as this you now just floating
around the world on soup yochts back.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
To politics or back to New Zealand came.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, no, no, no, no no. I'm back and I'm
back in about two weeks actually, so that'll that'll be good.
It's been a it's been a great trip. But you know,
I still love coming back to News and we spend
you know, seven or eight months of the year there,
but I know, I sort of travel around and we
brand and I going to different things, holidays and you know,
too hot, and.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So it's nice.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
You know, you can get the Mike Hoskins show in
the Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's that is true global, It's global. Can you do
tell us your Lebanese food story?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Because that this don't make me tell that story. It's
so embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's it's such a lovely story. If you listen to this, John,
this is a quintessential Kiwi helping Kiwi story. This will
bring a tear to your eye on the super yacht.
And remember, wherever you are, revenge, I also revenge.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I was just trying to help.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I was just trying to help out a struggling Auckland CBD,
which a lot of them are hospital I saw on
the news, which I don't watch the six Colt news anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I haven't been walking past. And I saw this woman
and I'm not even sure of the story, but it
was about the CBD dying probably and.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
She was struggling and she was carrying food and saying
it's really hard to get business.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
And I thought, course, that food looks good. I'm going
to ring and order some and support them and go
in and get a whole bunch. So I looked at
their menu and I ordered a bunch of food.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I don't know what it was, Lebanese Mediterranean, but at least,
and there were some Arabic salads and I ordered Mike
what I thought was some Cypriot interesting salad dish with chicken,
and I left it on the bench from because I
was going out, and there's lunch.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Butyer. It's a really nice Greekish salad. It's got chicken.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Anyway, he bites into what he thought was chicken and
he said, I couldn't work out why my mouth was squeaking,
and it was tofu. So that that unfortunately, but we.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Helped the lady out and it was it was fabulous food.
What's the name of the place, do you remember?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I think it's Emma Ima Street in the city.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
It can't be as bad as the chicken I had
when I was when I was a young man, I
went home after we got married and stuff, and we
went back to christ each my mother, who was notoriously
a horrible cook and actually held on things for a
bit too long. I went around, I was about twenty
three or twenty four, and I opened the fridge and
I started buying some chicken she left in the fridge,
(09:50):
and I said, oh god, Mom, this' chicken is as
hard as can be if you're that poor. I'll buy
you if I'll buy you a couple of chickens and
put them in the freezer. And as you know, my
mother was Austrian. Because for good news sake, John, it's
only three weeks old. It wasn't good And then was
there the idea of a fresh chicken? Yeah? He was
so port lyd you go off, hey, academy as bad
(10:11):
as the TOPHI that.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
No, exactly. It'sen nice to see you. You have a
good time in revenge and on your suit you will,
and Katie you have a good weekend. Appreciate it. Lovely
to see you both.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
For more from the Mike Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news Talks.
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