Sir Graham Henry: Former All-Blacks coach on the defeat in Buenos Aires to Los Pumas

Los Pumas completed a historic victory over the All-Blacks on Sunday, defeating them 29-23 to secure their first victory over the All-Blacks on home soil since 1976.  

It is also the fifth defeat under the leadership of Scott Robertson. 

Former All-Blacks coach Sir Graham Henry told Mike Hosking that although the loss in Argentina is tough, it’ll give the team more motivation as they prepare to face South Africa. 

‘it really galvanises them, and really focuses them, and I think that's what they require.’ 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The All Blacks go down to the Argies for the
first time at their place, and you know how New
Zealand has handled an all like lost que the critics
on a Monday morning, Sir Graham, Henry joins us Graham morning, worrying, Mike,
Are we in trouble?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Good, ma'am. So what do you make on brick this morning?
It's the dumbest and dirtiest team in rugby? Is that true?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, that's it's just ridiculous. No, No, it's a very
evening competition. I think we've probably got a bit complacent.
We've got a bit comfortable, I would imagine after and
reasonably easy were in the first Test. I know we were.
We didn't play particularly well and I think they probably
got comfortable. But I think it'll be very good for

(00:43):
going forward against South Africa and to testone. You know,
there's nothing like a New Zealand team that's all black
team that's got beaten. It really galvanizes them and really
focuses them. And I think that's what they require now.
We got outplayed and the boys boys said there after
the game, I thought they handled that well. They gave

(01:04):
praise where it was jew Argentinians out played this across
the park quite frankly, and we were disappointing. So but
going forward is probably probably good for us.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
The discipline, the rules, the interpretation of the rules. Is
there an issue there or not?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I think the rule book's too complicated. I think they
should blow it up and start again. Quite frankly. I
think it's a negative and you need to get some
rains together and just simplify the rule book so everybody understands.
Even the players sometimes are dumbfounded by the rulings of
the referee. So no, I think that's something that we'll

(01:44):
we needs to sort out and sort out quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Okay, I haven't followed it closely enough. With the South
Africans Australia scenario with the two different results, are the
South Africans better or the Australians better or a bit
of both or as South Africans, well, what's going on
there and do we need to worry?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think the Ausies have got better. Their coaching is
very good. They have improved immensely, which is great for
the game in this part of the world. I think
South Africa gone backwards from last year, but they will
be hugely motivated for the All Breack tour. Eden Park
will be massive tests in two weeks time. They've got

(02:23):
They've got the ability, there's no doubt about that. They've
probably got the more depth than anybody else in the
world right now, depth and in talent. But Joke Smitton
and Mike Cron have done a fabulous job with the
Wallabies and they've got their pride back their problem and
they haven't got a lot of depth. So whether whether

(02:45):
they can keep the top team on the park or
a top team on the park is the big challenge
I think.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
So it makes it exciting. So Graham always a pleasure appreciate.
It's Asa Graham, Henry former All Blacks coach. So Glenn
I'm correct in saying Glenn's correct. So far one of
them right, right, Sam and I had two, so we're wrong,
so we're out of the competition, I believe.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I also said I wouldn't be surprised if the All
Blacks one the first game in Argentina.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
And that's good, but you also have us losing two
to South Africa, one apiece for Australia.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Okay, well you're you're on the track, Unpatrioti, I don't,
I don't, Hey, I don't want to be right. Sometimes
it's not easy being right, and well it turns out.
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