Full Show Podcast: 10 September 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate covering all your real estate needs.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
News Tog's head beat Morning, Welcome today, good news as
the new twenty four seven digital health service gets a
good uptake. We've got record number of fifteen year olds
getting permission to bail on school. New forecast around a
red meat sector, Mark and Jenny Politics Wednesday after the
rate Richard Arnold and c Price. They will not disappoint
as well, asking morning at a seven to fifteen who

(00:29):
is responsible? Open in question for the morning, who is
responsible if you wreck an industry? Now? The head of
Mercedes globally this is a bloke called Ulla Collenius. He's
claimed the rules around evs as enacted by the Europeans
as sending the industry to the wall. In fact, at
full speed into the wall. The industry risks, he says, collapsing.
Now think about that for just a moment. Collapsing. Not hurt,

(00:51):
not fearful of terrorists, not a billionaire or two here
or there, depending on the rules of the day, but collapsing.
The car industry never decided. Of course EV's were a
good thing. They didn't make the mistake of misreading the
public demand. They were told through law that a certain
percentage of their output had to be electric, and if
it wasn't, they would be taxed by way of a
penalty for each and every car they made that wasn't
battery powered. Now we all know the global story around

(01:13):
electric cars. They have not been adopted in a way
the politicians wanted them to be, as the subsidies have stopped,
as people like Trump have shunned the entire concept. The
EV's story has become increasingly calamitous, and now a claimed
that an entire industry might fall over. China, which is
an interesting part of the story, is not helping given
their government as propping up any number of EV producers

(01:33):
so they can flood global markets with product. Now, in Europe,
that sort of thing is illegal for obvious reasons. They
have sanctions and teriffs for such matters. Poor political decision
making from foreigners is punished. So on that theory, why
isn't the poor decision making of the twenty seven European
governments that signed on to the EV obsession getting punished
for the sales that aren't happening, The money that isn't made,

(01:54):
the jobs that are lost and potentially the industry that
will collapse. Virtually every single European motormaker is pulled back
on the ev tradicory. Why because they know a dog
when they see it and they won't mind surviving. So
where is the accountability from Brussels? How many global car
manufacturing hits have to suggest collapse is the next step
in their journey because of a bunch of ideologically driven

(02:16):
politicians who couldn't or refused to see the wood for
the nit zero.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
News of the world. In ninety second, we've.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Got a couple of operations. So firstly operations summoned of
fire that involved Israel going after Hama's leadership in Qatar.
The Qataris had never closed.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Told me unequivocally that the Qataris were not made aware
that this this attack was going to take place.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
They did not know, I said, was Kato informed?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
The response not at all. That story is changing as
we speak. I'll come back to that reaction, though mixed
sum suggesting probably not useful given a deal could be close.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Violation of international law and an attack on a sovereign
nation which is allied to the United States and which
is a nation in fact that the United States defended
from Uranian missiles back in.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
June, but the israelis not having any of that.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
The isa IDF and Israeli Air Force prepared and carried
out this mission in the best and most optimal and
accurate way. That is impressing the entire world.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Not really because you know what the UN thinks.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
I can an this fragrant violation of the sovereignty and.

Speaker 7 (03:25):
Territory integrity of Katars.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
All parties master.

Speaker 6 (03:29):
Works towards achieving a permanencies fired, not destroying its.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Then Operation Midway Blitz. This is in Chicago. The fates
have arrived and not all the locals are against them.

Speaker 9 (03:39):
If that's a leadership, we have no leadership.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Man.

Speaker 9 (03:43):
I would expect that he would work with the administration
to make our streets a little bit safer. So in
that case, if that was happening, I would still have
Katie with me.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I don't he's referring to Pritzky, of the governor, who's
against it. The course of the White House, by the way,
they're not against it.

Speaker 10 (03:58):
When you have Democrat politicians like Printcer and Nuskum that
are freeing illegal alien pedophiles, illegal alien child abductors, illegal
alien murderers. This is terrorism being waish against the American people.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Now just back to the business of Qatar. They climb.
They knew nothing. Carolyn As in the White House, She's
got a different story.

Speaker 9 (04:20):
Unilatterly, bombing inside Katar, a sovereign nation and close ally
of the United States that is working very hard in
bravely taking risks with us to broke her peace does
not advance Israel or America's goals. However, eliminating Hamas who
have profited off the misery of those living in Gaza
is a worthy goal. President Trump immediately directed Special Envoy

(04:43):
Whitcoff to inform the Qataris of the impending attack, which
he did. The President views Qatar as a strong ally
and friend of the United States and feels very badly
about the location of this attack.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
So that falls on what coffee on the dittery didn't.
The Katari city didn't end, and the White House city
didn't as news of the world in ninety second, Let's
go back to the car thing I was mentioning a
moment ago. The IAA Mobility conference is on in Munich
at the moment the approach from Volkswagen B and w
Reno and others seems to be to blitz the thing
with new models. So they're embarking on a product blitz
as their response to the ongoing problem around eVisa and China.

(05:19):
It is twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
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It By News talks evy.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Let me get to Nepal and Norway in Thailand because
there's all sorts of calamitus nonsense going on in those
places at the moment. But they revised down the jobs
report in America. Annual revisions to non farm payrolls has
dropped by nine hundred and eleven thousand from the initial estimate.
So updated information on business openings and closings. So that's
not a good day at the office. Is at fifteen

(05:50):
past six, agreed back JOm Wealth Andrew Keller had good morning, Yeah,
very good morning mine. So you reference to these manufacturing
business and this will all go into the big kit
you Tube number which comes next week. So what did
we get? What do we find out?

Speaker 8 (06:03):
Oh yeah, well probably it didn't go I gingered it, Mike.

Speaker 11 (06:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
We talked about the growth and the looming GDP number
which is due out next week, and I mentioned the
possibility that we could get a slightly better number than
the mind zero point three that was the arbien Z's
pack in the recent MPs. So yeah, yesterday we got
statues and released a whole bunch of data business and
manufacturing data for Q two that all feeds into the
GDP outcome.

Speaker 8 (06:28):
And unfortunately, at least for one local.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
Economist, the numbers have pushed the estimate the other way,
and Benz lowered their estimate to minus zero point five
percent for the quarter. Now, look, it is a big
data dump. You get the Economic Survey manufacturing, the Wholesale
Trade Survey, business and business employment data, so lots of
stuff there to unpack. Just looking at the Economic Survey

(06:51):
of manufacturing. Yeah, it weakened. I think that would be
a euphemism. Slumped was one description. It very much adds
credence to the sort of much talked about slow down
that there was very much being anecdotally described in Q two.
You know, we kept saying, oh, things feel soft, things
feel soft, especially after that surprise we got in Q
one of the zero point eight percent. So the volume

(07:14):
of total manufacturing sales fell two point nine percent. That's
after a two point four percent rise in the March quarter.
The value of sales fell one billion, that's a three
percent fall, and that also rose in the March quarter
one point six and sort of just so you can
see this pretty weak and reverse.

Speaker 8 (07:32):
What happened in March.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Now, delving into other numbers, we recently spoke about the
building work put in place. Now the data release estate
includes a bit more insight into the construction sector.

Speaker 8 (07:44):
It's a wider data set.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
It brings in more things that aren't included in that
building work put in place. It reveals that construction sales
fell three point one percent. That's a bigger four than
we saw in building work put in place now. So
the construction industry was the largest saw the largest industry
decrease in sales seven hundred and twenty million dollars with
a fall there. So these are really tough numbers here.

(08:07):
And after adjusting I saw a bit of analysis yesterday.
After adjusting for price changes and inflation, this measure has
fallen eighteen percent in the past two years. That is
a massive change for an industry to absorb, and of
course that has flow on effects into other industries, those
industries that support the construction industries that make stuff for them.

(08:30):
Business employment numbers are in the broad data as well.
And an observation here in this data series on a
quarterly basis, filled jobs reported not registered a positive number
since twenty twenty three.

Speaker 8 (08:46):
So all I can say might is lock in those
ACA cuts.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yes, we lost to more of those. Now, what about Australia.
You look at AMZ yesterday and all their redundancies coming
in the consumer sentiment things things are turning here.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yeah, I know when they say three and a half
and redundancies are but none in New Zealand Adam. Yeah,
Let's just see how that pans out, shall we. Westpac
Consumer sentiment, How are the Aussies feeling?

Speaker 8 (09:09):
Well? It fell three point one percent to ninety five
point four in September.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
Renewed concern in the survey over the economic outlook, a
little bit less confidence around future rate cuts. The one
thing I noticed in this data series, Mike, how's the
house price expectations over there? House price expectations in this
Westpac Consumer Sentiment are at their highest highest.

Speaker 8 (09:29):
Level in fifteen years.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
Seventy five percent of consumers accept help prices to rise,
and the most bollish Aussies are those in South Australia
and Queensland. Then we said ab nab business confidence. Business
conditions rose two points in August are now sitting around
the long run average, so that improved in reflected gains
and employment and profitability training conditions, they look pretty flat.

(09:53):
Business confidence fell three points, but they make the point
that that follows four consecutive months of improving sentiment. That's
also sitting around long long run average levels. But you
just mentioned that US payrolls number, and we said that
was going to be negative. That was actually at the
that was actually at the higher end of negativity.

Speaker 8 (10:11):
So that was a big number, nine hundred. I mean,
people said it might be like.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
A million people. They didn't you know.

Speaker 8 (10:16):
Yeah we got that roble, Yeah, we got that robin.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
All right, what are the numbers?

Speaker 6 (10:21):
The Dow Jones is up one hundred ninety seven points
as we look at it, it's that's about point four
to three of a percent forty five thy seven hundred
and ten. The S and P five hundred up forteen
points point two percent sixty five oh nine, and the
Nazdak is up thirty one points. Point one four percent
twenty one thousand, eight hundred and thirty one overnight, the

(10:42):
forty two one hundred gained point two three percent nine
two four to two. The nick A lost point four
two percent forty three thousand, four hundred and fifty nine.
Shang Hoo COM's it down half a percent three eighth seven.
The Aussies yesterday lost half of percent as well on
the A six two hundred a ATO three the close
there and we lost points to one of the percent,
and the ENSEX fifty twenty seven points thirteen thousand, two

(11:05):
hundred and fifty three Keemi dollar holding on to the
its recent strength point five nine two seven against the US,
point eight nine ninety seven against the ossie, point five
oh five nine euro point four to three eight zero
against the pound eighty seven point three to three. Japanese
yen gold still strong three thousand, six hundred and forty
two dollars and break crew down a little sixty six

(11:26):
dollars and sixty cents.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Go well, catch up Friday. Appreciate at JMO wealth dot
co dot in z pasking Andrew callaher No, I haven't
forgotten the days, just not on tomorrow Biddy's back on Friday,
Indian minister overseeing our trade talks. He reckons we're going
to sign an FTA within two months. We only launched
the details in March, so if that comes to pass,
that's good. And by the way, Carlyle, which you may
or may not know, they're a private markets firm anyway,

(11:49):
they've announced overnight there are one of the big sponsors
now for red Bull. If you're into F one, they're
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(12:09):
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Speaker 1 (12:18):
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Speaker 2 (12:26):
While She's all go. Kaitars has come back and said
that stuff that Carolyn just said as bollocks. Whitcoff didn't
get to them in time. Their spokesman, Katari spokesman, and
Sari says the reports about Katar being informed at the
attack were false communications received from one of the American
officials came during the sound of explosions. Meantime, her mass
have said five had been killed, none of the negotiators,

(12:47):
and they now hold the US jointly responsible along with Israel. Meantime,
in Nepal, so the news yesterday was the social media
band's been lifted more important issues. The Prime Minister's house
is on fire. There are corruption allegations against him. That's
where the whole social media thing came from. So the
protesters are on the street. They've set his house on fire.

(13:08):
He and the Finance minister were last seen running down
the street six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Trending now quit chamst Warehouse half phrased vider would sale
on now now.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Hugh Jackman does Neil Diamond? How's that sound to you?
The film is Song Sung Blue. It's based apparently on
a true story a couple of down and outers. They
are musicians, Mike and Claire. They started a Neil Diamond
tribute band. They called it Lightning and Thunder and they
became allegedly apparently icons. I'm not a songwriter, I'm not
a sex symbol.

Speaker 9 (13:38):
I just want to entertain people.

Speaker 11 (13:40):
I don't want to be a hairdresser.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I want to sing, I want to dance.

Speaker 8 (13:43):
I want to garden.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
I want to cant.

Speaker 9 (13:44):
They need something big, I need something new.

Speaker 12 (13:46):
What do you think who don't want to be a
Neil Diamond impersonator?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
You want to be a Neil Diamond interpreter.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I was looking for the right way to see and
you just came right out and said it.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
A mama Girlily Kenstein Long, we should call ourselves latening
and thunders.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
I wanted to ripple and weave when the wind.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Blows my shirt when in a bar, how like a
leaf floor? You have one sure.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
Sweet line.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
Later and dunder.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
He's not bad Jackman. Kate Hudson's the Female Cinema's Christmas
Day in the US, and we'll get it on January
the first. I haven't got to Norway, and I haven't
got to Sinnamatra. He's going to jail. That's a great
story all in itself. The world is such a messed
up place at the moment, isn't it, red Meat? Shall
we change topics? We've got the forecast for the new season.

(14:42):
We're doing so well it's unbelievable. Sheep Meat, I'm very
pleased to announce is back in a fairly big way,
because there's been some problems around that. Recently, we've all
been focused on beef. Anyway, we'll crunch you through that
particular forecast in just a couple of moments. And then
this business of increasing in fact record numbers of fifteen
year olds leaving school. What are the implications of this.
We'll have a look at this after seven o'clock this morning.

(15:04):
Meantime news is next year. A news talk said.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Mike has game in stateful, engaging and vital. The Mike
Hosking Breakfast with a Veda Retirement Communities, Life your Way
news togs had been.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Michran's just named Sebastian look on you as the new
prime minister. Who is he will? He's once was a mayor,
once was Secretary of State, currently as Minister of Armed Forces.
He left the Republican Party to join the Renaissance Party,
where he now resides. He's only thirty nine years old,
so he's got the unenviable task of trying to wade
France through what no one else has been able to

(15:39):
wave them through. So we we wish him all the best.
Twenty three minutes away from seven got a new season
all outlook in the twenty five twenty six year for
the beef and lamb people. Now things look good as
far as I can work out. Red meat continues its
record run globally, exports expected hit ten and a half
billion for the year end his September. Kate Eckland, as
the chair of Beef and Lamb New Zealand, is back
with US. Kate, Good morning, morning Mike. From what I'm reading,
volume drop, but the values up is that roughly right.

Speaker 13 (16:03):
Absolutely lower exports volumes in the current year, but we've
still seen the value of the exports rise by one
point four billion for the year in this year, and
the twenty five twenty six season is looking to be
just as good as holding steady good.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
So the value is driven by what a lower currency
or we're charging more or both.

Speaker 13 (16:23):
What we're seeing is just phenomenal global demand and that's
coupled with really limited supply out of some of those
p agricultural trading nations like Brazil and Australia, and the
US hers record lows as well. So I suppose it's
a perfect form of demand and supply coming together, which
is what's leading to this. And it looks like this
will persist for a couple of years.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I was going to say, I was reading about the
herd in America and there's nothing they can do about that,
and they're even if they wanted to, they're not doing
anything about it as far as I can work outs
to drought and all those sort of things. So are
those sort of markets good to go for a sustained
period of time because they're not giving up beef? Are they?

Speaker 7 (17:00):
WHI?

Speaker 13 (17:00):
They're absolutely not, in fact, commanders at record levels despite
the prices. So look, I think everything we're seeing suggests
this is going to be good for a couple of years.
You know, there's always some risks on the horizon. There's
a lot of there's a lot happening in the international
trade space with tariffs and various safeguard actions happening, so

(17:21):
you know, there's always risk to that. We're a trading nation.
But on the whole, the market fundamentals are pretty farmed.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
We spend so much time on beef. This sheep story
seems to be getting better.

Speaker 11 (17:31):
Is that there?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
And it seems to be getting better in places like
the UK.

Speaker 13 (17:36):
The sheep story is better than it's been in years.
So we're seeing really good demand and good prices out
of the UK and the EU, and we've seen a
lot of products go back into those markets where you know,
in the last few years I've been in China in
the US and it was really needed. You know, this
is a great news story. But what it is is
it's a return to profitability. And you know, last year

(17:56):
we saw forty percent of our farmers running at a
significant loss in most of those were the ones that
were in the Hell Country sheets arms. So you know,
it's a much needed return to profitability.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Good is that a supply side issue as well? Going forward?
We got enough sheep still because we don't have as
many sheep as we used to have and a lot
of them, you know, so we okay on that side
of the equation.

Speaker 13 (18:16):
Oh look at a real concern and you know, crunch
the numbers and figured out that in the last five
years we've essentially foregone two billion dollars in red meat
exports just through stock numbers that we've lost from a forestation.
So you know, the continuing decline of sheet numbers is
a concern. But you know what crisis like this does

(18:37):
and said that, you know a lot of the farmers
are now making money is it puts a bit of
confidence deck in and hopefully we'll see some of those
sheep numbers start to climb back.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Someone in Wellington's got to be listening to the stunt
they I mean if they, I mean, it can't be
that hard to crunch the numbers. If we got more sheep,
we'd sell more meat, if we got more you know,
et cetera. And as opposed to planting trees, so that
whole setting, which is political, they've got to be hearing that,
are they.

Speaker 13 (19:01):
Look, obviously some changes have been made are unda forestation
or you know where you can plant trees, But we
don't think it's gone far enough. You know, we're really concerned.
We're still seeing really good productive farmland across the country
are being brought and planted into trees, and often by
offshore owners or offshore investors. So now this is returning
nothing to New Zealand's economy.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Just back to the beef quickly. I read another thing,
and this is the Brazil story. So Australia and Brazil,
big big exporters into America on beef. Where do we
fit into that equation? And does somebody like Brazil with
a fifty percent tariff, Do they bleed business to us?

Speaker 13 (19:37):
Look? Absolutely, As I said, there's a lot happening in
the trade space that's in it add some dynamics there
Brazil products. I don't think it can sustain the tariff
levels are at. So what may divert into some of
our other markets like China. What we know is the
US actually needs lean dstrom that needs the product that
we send. The challenge for US, I suppose is we're

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on a different tariff rate to some of others like
Australia and Argentina, so that will impact our returns and
we're forecast in the US tariff potentially could take five
hundred million dollars of failure out of that market. So
you know there are always risks, but generally speaking, this
is a really good news story and it's good for
New Zealand. You know, we know that farmers shouldn't bee.

(20:22):
Farmers on average been fifteen went five million dollars every
day in their regional communities. So the fact that they're
making money, it's it's good for all of New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Fantastic, Always good to talk to you, Kate appreciated. Kate
Eckland must be good at the Beef and Lamb office must'
I mean, there must be generally upbeat. There must be
a lot of morning teas and they're feeling good about life.
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Speaker 2 (22:10):
Right, Richard Arnold morning for you make a lot of
he said, he said, here, what's going on?

Speaker 15 (22:16):
Yeah, in terms of both of the major issues of
the day, starting with the Middle East and what did
the White House know and when did they know it?
That question has arisen as Israel launched it strike now
on top of mass officials who were meeting in Cutter's
capital of Doha back in May, Trump made a stopover
in Cutter where he signed a big agreement for Boeing
jets and did some multi billion dollar defense deals. The

(22:38):
cutter Is also made a gift to Trump of a
jet which could be turned into a temporary presidential plane
as Air Force one, then be passed on to the
Trump Library. It was said Boeing has been slow in
producing a new presidential plane, which now were set for
delivery maybe in twenty twenty seven and maybe twenty twenty nine.
So back to this is raeby yes strike. Kutter Is
condemning it as a quote blatant violation of international law.

(23:00):
Turkey in Egypt also are raising alarms, with Turkey accusing
Israel of quote terrorism of state policy. They're concerned about
the possibility of strikes on their own soil. So with
all this is the backdrop, the White House press briefing
was delayed by about thirty minutes today. You heard a
bit of it at the of a half hour and
spokesman Carolyn Levitt saying the Israeli attack on cutty soil

(23:21):
does not advance you as goals. So the Trump team
spoke with the Qataris and also with Israel' smith Niahu.
Levitt was asked about the timing because over the weekend,
Trump was warning Hamas that they had received their quote
final warning, said Trump, We're.

Speaker 8 (23:36):
In very deep negotiation with Amas.

Speaker 16 (23:40):
We said, let them all out, right now, let them
all out and much better things will happen for them.

Speaker 8 (23:46):
But if you don't let them all out, it's going
to be a tough situation.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
It's going to be nasty.

Speaker 17 (23:52):
So what was the meaning of all of that?

Speaker 15 (23:54):
Levitt was asked about this a short time ago.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
He wasn't talking about this strike on Doha.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
No, he was not.

Speaker 9 (24:01):
As I told you that Trump administration was notified by
the United States military that Israel was attacking Hamas, and
the President spoke to the Prime Minister after the attack,
as well as again the Emir and the Prime Minister.

Speaker 15 (24:11):
Of Qatar Ntnya, who also is speaking of this, saying
that this was an independent Israeli maneuver. The broader question
is how does this affect any peace hopes Netnya, who
suggesting that twenty of the hostages taken back in twenty
twenty three October the seventh during that awful mass attack
in Israel, twenty of them still are alive. The families
of those remaining hostages are voicing concern about the potential

(24:34):
impact of this Israeli strike, while former US diplomat to
the region, Brit McGirk, who has served for American presidents, also.

Speaker 17 (24:41):
Is worried about what will happen with all of this.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Part of them in Doha, where the United States and
Israel has asked Hamas.

Speaker 17 (24:48):
To play this role is shocking, so he continues.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Ers indleed, and then we count to w Epstein and
the dump and where are we at with that?

Speaker 15 (24:55):
Yeah, well, who's to be believed? The White House? Are
you lying eyes? Trump is saying no comment on the
latest release of documents over this. It's a dead issue,
he told NBC in a very brief phone call today.
Off Otherwise, there's been silence from Trump himself. As a
copy of that Lewde birthday message that Trump is alledged
to have written for Epstein on his fiftieth birthday has

(25:17):
been made public. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee obtained
this thing, which Trump said didn't exist, they released it.
Democrat Robert Garcia on that committee says, this is.

Speaker 9 (25:27):
A horrific cover up happening right now at the White House.

Speaker 15 (25:32):
This birthday letter depicts the outline of a naked woman
and says, quote, we have certain things in common. Jeffrey
Powers a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may every day
be another wonderful secret. Signed at the bottom Donald in
the very same way that many other Trumps signatures from
that era appear. It looks exactly the same to my eyes.
I'm not a skilled person when it comes to analyzing handwriting,

(25:52):
but Trump, Carol Levitt says, of.

Speaker 9 (25:55):
This, President did not write this letter. He did not
sign this letter. And that's why President's external legal team
is aggressively pursuing litigation against the Wall Street Journal, and
they will continue too.

Speaker 15 (26:05):
Well, we'll see about that. Confronted with this, some lawmakers
a bit a fuddled as to how they should respond.

Speaker 9 (26:10):
I'd reckon clearly, the birthday note from President Trump is
a fallacy.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
That's that's just yeah, it's just not true.

Speaker 18 (26:19):
The President says he did not sign it, so I
take the president's word.

Speaker 15 (26:22):
This is far from over. There's growing move for a
release of all of the files. And another item just
put out is that photo of Epstein seemingly joking.

Speaker 11 (26:29):
Is this a joke?

Speaker 15 (26:30):
With a photo of an oversized check being held by Epstein,
with a caption saying, Jeffrey Quote sells fully depreciated woman.
Her name then blacked out to Donald Trump for twenty
two five hundred dollars. The Wall Street Journal reporting now
that this woman was someone with whom Trump and Epstein
socialized back in the nineties. They say she denies any
romantic relationships. So, Mike, yet another mystery.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Right up see Friday Richard Donald start side speaking of
the Wallswick Journal. By the way, if you haven't caught
up on this, the Murdock's got there. The fight finally settled.
So Lachland wins. So this is for Fox The Wall
Street Journal in New York Post. Lachland wins. Prove Elizabeth
and James. They sell out and get into another trust.
That trust gets the funds from the sales of their shares.

(27:16):
But the ultimate thing is that Murdoch wanted Lachlan, and
so Lochlan's the King.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Nine minutes away from seven, the Mike asking breakfast with
a Vida retirement Communities news togs had been.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
But Norway result. They've been voting the last couple of
days Labors one that they were running. They were looking
for a second term they've got it. They'll need a
couple of minor parties to get a majority. Norways used
to minority governments, but they might be able to get
a majority. One hundred and sixty nine set parliament. They
call it the Storting Anti immigration party, Progress Party biggest gains.
They're up to twenty four percent. They've got forty eight seats,

(27:49):
so Labour only got twenty eight point two percent of
the vote. That's fifty three seats. That's actually an improvement
on last time, so it was a tight race. There
was some debate as to whether the center right should
be able to get back a couple of center right parties.
They fall in short. Labor get a second term in
Norway four minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
For the Inns are the outs. It's the Fiarz with
business favor take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
America's housing market, it's an interesting old thing. The American
housing market got some new figures this morning.

Speaker 12 (28:19):
The CHOWE.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Over the past five years, it's increased by fifty seven
percent to a record ninety two point seven trillion dollars.
So that means in just sixty months they added thirty
three point seven trillion in value if you want to
compare it to us. We don't do total value, but
the biggest growth periods or increases of forty five percent
since twenty twenty, so they've now dropped down to about

(28:39):
twenty four to twenty seven percent above pre COVID, so
our twenty seven versus their fifty seven. In the state,
New York's added the most value of any state, despite
the fact half of them left and went to Florida
three hundred and sixty four billion. They've added supplies. The
issue they're not building homes the way they used to.
They've got the same problems we have the cost per
square meter. It's too expensive. So as the play diminishes,

(29:01):
the demand increases, and that just leads pricing going one way.
So the government's idea about this tallyhealth. You know, when
you can't get into your local GP, you go online
and somebody helps you out in that department. That seems
to be working quite well, although there's some concern around
the relationship with you and your GP. So we'll talk
about that. Record number fifteen year olds are leaving high
school now, but upside they are going on to study.

(29:25):
It seems at places like politechs, So is that any
bad thing? And Jenny and Mark Politics Wednesday after eight
or still to come on the show.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
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Speaker 2 (29:41):
He'd be seven past seven. So the focus in the
Phillips case as soon to the children, what's required, what's
being offered when it comes to their needs and requirements.
Doctor Claire acmade as the Chief Children's Commissioner and is
with us, good morning.

Speaker 11 (29:52):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
In your observation, are we equipped for the uniqueness of
this case?

Speaker 19 (29:58):
I think that this has been unprecedented in New Zealand.
I am really pleased that the police have safely located
the children and that they have been found safe and well.
I think that's the key thing that we need to
focus on now, as well as respecting the privacy of
these children. I'm glad also over time we can understand

(30:20):
more about this, but right now, the privacy of these
children is the crucial thing from my perspective.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I'm glad you said that because I'm kind of over
the story now, not in the nasty way. I'm just
saying that there's there's a point in this country, and
we do it often where we start to become a
bit invasive, don't we, And that worries me.

Speaker 19 (30:38):
I share that concern, Mike. These children need space and time,
and my request now to the media and to the
public at large is that everyone respects that there are
three children at the heart of this situation and we
do that by giving them their privacy.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Are you confident, ot you're up to it.

Speaker 16 (31:00):
Well.

Speaker 19 (31:00):
I have sought assurances from Ordering a Tamariki about the
support that they have in place four of these three children,
and I've received those assurances, and I think it's now
essential that Orning a Tamariki and the police are able
to continue to focus on the work that they have
in front of them, and that these three children have
all of the support lacked around them that they need

(31:22):
to meet their specific needs.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Do you worry about the suppression the court and the
stuff that you and I probably know that isn't allowed
to be published and yet it is online and probably
will end up internationally because the jurisdiction doesn't count there
that that's an issue going forward.

Speaker 19 (31:41):
Again, I just reiterate my message, Mike about the importance
of respecting the privacy of these children, and that is
in these coming days, in the weeks ahead, and in
the months and years ahead, we must remember these are
young children that we are talking about.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
And do you go well, clear pressure, doctor Claire Arkman,
who's the Chief Children's Commissioner. It does darktail. I will
come back to the legals around this with probably Mark
after eight o'clock this morning. There is also the story
floating around that Julie Christy, well known documentary maker, has
been given access to some of the police operation and
is looking to make a documentary and this tremendous pressure
on her to pull the pin on that, because that,

(32:21):
in my humble opinion, ends is into the world of
ghoulish voyeurism. And when all the details are out, I
think you'll probably agree with me. Ten minutes past seven,
Pasky seem to have some positive news from the health sector.
The new twenty four cent digital Health service shows twenty
one thousand consultations have been delivered since the July launched.
Seventy one percent of these bookings were because you couldn't
get a face to face eighty three percent. This is interesting,

(32:43):
eighty three percent of patients didn't need an in person
follower doctor Angus Chambers, Chair of gen Pros. Will this Angus,
good morning, Am. This is a good news story or
a worrisome story?

Speaker 7 (32:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (32:54):
Look, I think pop bring more than letter. I don't
think the Chelly Health Services addressing the real problem for
a health system when you look at the emergency departments
and crises, that hasn't touched that problem. So I think
it's a good news story in terms of it looks
really good. Oh look at all these numbers, but it
hasn't many differents to the realishes.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
But if I'm happy as a punter and I could
get access to a GP for what for most of
us anyway, is a bit of a once over lightly
in the script for you know whatever, then that solves
my problem. Who cares?

Speaker 7 (33:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (33:24):
Look, and perhaps we should just put vending machines and
corners say people don't even have to get professional opinions.
I mean, but in the end, it's actually making the
problem worse because the Teally Health Service is sucking GPS
out of actual providing care to people in clinics. I've
got someone told me the other day their service used
to have five GPS. Well they're not actually GPS on

(33:45):
Telly Healthy might say, but now they've got seventy five,
so that's seventy GPS less in our system. It's actually
a vicious cycle that takes people.

Speaker 11 (33:53):
Out of the system.

Speaker 16 (33:53):
They can't provide care and clinics, so people end up
bringing the tally. Health offering is quite a lot easier
as a job for doctors. So the doctors that are
doing it are very sensible. That's an easier job, there's
less paperwork, they probably get paid as much, if not more.
So it's actually making the problem worse.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
But it depends on what you're looking to do. I
understand your defense of it, and I sort of agree
to it. But for the punter, for the consumer, if
it works, it works, doesn't it. And this is the
way of the future, And then you're going to add
AI and it's going to change the whole thing completely.

Speaker 16 (34:25):
We are in the changing environment I have. I cannot
agree with you more. But look, if you look at
some of the data from the rout the ROBUTSAB this
is just this is just a snapshot of self reported stuff.
But if you look at the data from the telehealth services,
who can go for a while, about twenty percent of
people end up having to go to the GP. So
this kind of stuff they've got here is probably an outlier.

(34:48):
So if you have to go and see the GP
after a Telly sealth service and paid twice, that's not
entirely good for the punter. And there's certainly some well
recognized issues overseas of people coming to harm from Telly
self because they actually miss things because they're missing out
one of the key safe offering operating procedures that we do,
which is examination.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
God on angers appreciate it very much. Doctor anders Chambis's
the GIN pro chair. Is he defending his patch and
the service is good? Or has he got a point?
It is thirteen past seven, Bilmer. We'll get to this
in a moment. Pulled my son out of school on
the fifteenth birthday, got signed off by the Ministry of
ed went straight onto a building site. If sixteen got
a pretty ship through the BCO. Five years on, he's
qualified and moving into his own house that he and

(35:28):
I built at the weekends morning.

Speaker 11 (35:30):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I left school at fifteen, now own a dairy farm
at the ripe old age of thirty four. School wasn't
for me. So the record numbers are fifteen year old's
leaving school. Should we be alarmed or is this a
pathway to a better life? Thirteen past seven.

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Talks at b OMG. Mike, the telehealth system has a
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to doctor angus is afraid of business being at risk?
Come back to that seventeen past interesting insight into who's
leaving school and potentially why. Last year we had thirteen
hundred and seventy six fifteen year olds being granted an
early exemption, highest numbers since two thousand and seven. Upsideers

(36:11):
most of them, ninety percent of them seem to continue
when study in places like politics.

Speaker 11 (36:15):
Now.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Andy England is the Dnfield High School principal and as
with us, Andy, very good morning to you.

Speaker 11 (36:20):
Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I've got you at eight hundred and fortyish pupils at
your school. So you're talking about year elevenish kids coming
to you and saying I want out right, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 (36:30):
Year eleven occasionally in the year ten as well, but
doesn't usually happen in year ten. Yeah. We haven't seen
a huge increase at our school. But I'm aware across
the country there has been and I think the key
part of this story is that there's an increase in
the acceptance of their applications and what I don't necessarily
things about things.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Oh good, that's good. Let me come back to that.
In the moment when you say the application, is it
automatically granted? Can you say I'm over this and I
want out or not?

Speaker 5 (36:55):
No?

Speaker 11 (36:55):
No, not at all that it has to be assessed.
So there's a three stage. You have to apply to
the parent, ust organize it, and it has to come
to the principal for approval. We have to state what's
happening within the school, and then it has to go
to the ministry, and it has to be an either
an employer or a tertiary provider. Also state what they're
going to do next.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
When they come to you, do you go, I could
see this kid coming. You knew it was going to
be that way.

Speaker 11 (37:19):
Not always, We've had a few surprise ones. Sometimes you do.
Yet sometimes students clearly just what do you talk about?
The roundhole in the square, the round pig, So you
sometimes get that as well. Not all students fit. I
think in your story that's on the website. That's quite right.
Not all students fit all that well in school, but
we do our best and we statistically if a student longer,

(37:40):
students stays in school, the best outcomes for them. But
of course stats are stats, and not every student fits
that mole.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
That's true, So the two the numbers don't actually add up.
So thirteen hundred and seventy six fifteen year olds leaving,
but suddenly two thy fifteen year olds are at Polytech,
so they're learning trades and stuff at Polytech. Would that
be your assumption or assessment of it.

Speaker 11 (37:56):
We've been doing well, yeah, so school's been working really
hard on working with polytechs. The Ministry runs a yuth
G and TEE program for about fifteen years maybe, and
it's a really good program. Students can spend it at
one or two days a week in a Politech or
another Tertory provider and they can blend that in with
a schoolwork. Sometimes they want to go and do that
full time, and they want to do that before this
in sixteen. So in those cases we would or we

(38:18):
would seek and LX we call them an earlier leave exemption.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
So there isn't out see I left school at sixteen.
School wasn't for me, but I had a part. I
was going to do things and as it turns out,
it worked out. Okay. So if they can say that
to you, I'm going to be a builder, I'm going
to be a farmer, I'm going to be a trade
that's no bad thing.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Not?

Speaker 11 (38:37):
Necessarily?

Speaker 9 (38:38):
No?

Speaker 11 (38:38):
And I think you've touched on a really important point there.
Many of the role models, particularly in the rural areas
where we are, but many of the many of the
student's role models didn't go all the way through school
when he left at fifteen and a successful business people
running trades, companies and so on. So role models often
don't have an academic pathway.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Great inside, Andy, well done, Andy England, who's staffield High
Principle with us this morning. Proper is right now. The
apprenticeship opportunities, Mike a less than they were five years ago.
That's true, But when you're fifteen sixteen year old, you
know you're not looking at the economy immediately where you
see your pathway and if you're determined to make it happen,
it will happen. Mike, my son left at fifteen, which

(39:16):
for me, being a teacher was hard to take. He
went straight into a building program now twenty two fully
qualified with apprentices under him. So that's encouraging. I also
have for you the Employment Hero survey results out yesterday,
and I see some encouraging signs on the job markets.
I'll have that for you shortly seven twenty.

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twenty three. I've been wondering when the penny would drop,
and yesterday just might have been at two stories no less,
two stories just yesterday on Chris Hopkins problems with the

(40:49):
Marii Party. You see, for all the energy the media
wants to put into Christopher Luxen and his future, the
very obvious other side of the coin, if they ever
wanted to explore it, lies in the very real issue
for labor in the in even coming close to putting
together the numbers to form a government. Now, the genesis
of the coverage came out of the fairest posts on
all the Asians and the Blacks and the other races

(41:10):
byerly managed to pedal in the lead up to last
Saturdays to barkle up a by election. The Maori Party
had to apologize and obviously Hepkins had to face the
growing reality that these folks are crazies and not remotely
interested in being helpful, useful or part of a coalition.
Why this hasn't occurred to more in the media before Now,
I've got no idea other than to offer the suggestion
it may just be a bit inconvenient for them and

(41:30):
their agendas and it's far easier to help build on
the so called demise of the Prime Minister. But yesterday
we got there at last simple questions, how does Labor
even begin to form a deal with the Maori Party?
And this is one for the coverage of the Poles
as well. See you will note in polls and the
way they're presented, they're presented as a simple center left,
center right number collection right, a collection of parties added up,

(41:53):
and the headline is formed from the result of the maths.
And this week's curiopole, for example, there was to be
apparently a change of government, but it involves each time
the assumption and what an assumption it is that Labor
and the Greens and the Maray Party are one group
and no such thing has ever happened. And let me
make this prediction for you right now this morning. It
never will. So add the numbers of likely groupings and

(42:15):
you are left with labor and maybe the Greens. Do
they get to government? No they don't. So Hipkins, given
it's his issue, not the Marray parties, has to answer
the very simple question will you work with the Marray Party?
And if so, how, what jobs do they get? What
policies are theirs are you implementing? And given he can't
answer that, and dare I suggest won't he needs to
grow his party support to about forty percent, which he

(42:38):
can't and he won't either, which is why he's not
winning the election next year. Oski having completed a year
thirteen and gained a university entrance, my experience was that
those of us who had finished school were heads and
shoulders above those who hadn't when graduating for our trades,
fair Point, Mike, I run a large company, left school
at sixteen, but we'd been taught the basics by then.
I don't know if this is the case now, fair

(42:59):
Port Point. My son wanted an electrical apprenticeship He worked
for free at three different venues until they decided to
hire him. He's now a third year qualifying next year.
Well well done you. You know when I left at sixteen,
I genuinely felt there was nothing more school could do
for me. I got school served, I got ue. Those
were the rules in the day. You didn't need to

(43:20):
go to seventh form. What was the point unless you
were going to university. I wasn't. The Hero Employment Survey
SMEs a lot of responses, seventy thousand of them. Job
market for eighteen to twenty four year olds has improved
markedly their words, not mine. Sixty four percent of the
over fifty fives they're troubled is where the survey falls
flat a bit. They doubted they would find another role quickly.

(43:41):
I mean, what's that. That's perception. It's not real, is it.
So the surveyed improved on last year's. It is a
challenging job market still, so, I make no mistakes about that.
But there aren't bright spots. The job market has at
least stabilized, hospo and retailer hiring again, employment jumping by
nineteen percent in the Tago. The South Island job numbers
are up as you expect. Rural and tourism is rebounding,

(44:02):
which is good. We're now likely to see a modest
pick up in the second half of twenty twenty five.
That's the snapshot from the Employment hero People as regards
jobs in the economy, the Advisory Group for Organized Crime
Report number five. We've reported on the previous fours. We're
locked into this now. Suggesting this morning is we need

(44:23):
one minister to oversee this because there's not a lot
of communication between the various departments. Where have we heard
that before? More After the News.

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Speaker 2 (44:41):
Togs head be Mikah, Are you going to mention Hipkin's
dressing down as finance minister? It's not a finance minister,
it's a finance spokesperson wanting to increase inflation. Liz No,
I wasn't because it's a bit convoluted. It came out
of the thing I mentioned on the program yesterday, echoed
Kellier cold of Westpac came up with the idea. I
don't know whether I agree with them. Or not clearly
by Edmonds, does that they want to the Reserve Bank

(45:02):
want to increase the band for inflation from zero to
three or one to three to something a little bit higher,
because he argues, historically we've said at about two and
a half percent, which is technically true. What I was
more impressed with was the idea that the Reserve Bank
needs to be more open. They need to answer more questions,
hold more press releases and expose the Monetary Committee to

(45:22):
who voted for what and why and when and how.
But it is an insight into the Labor Party as
to one hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing.
But Ginny Anderson, I'm sure will defend them. After eight
o'clock twenty three to eight, new report from the Advisory
Group on organized crime. This time it's focused on the
accountability of our transnational response. We have sadly a lack

(45:42):
of cohesion that is undermining our ability to tackle this
particular issue. The recommendation is a new government minister is
solely responsible for transnational crime. Steve Simon, of course chair
of this Ministerial Advisory Group and is with us. Steve,
very good morning to you.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Good morning here.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
I think I'm right in saying it's your number five, now,
aren't you five?

Speaker 11 (46:01):
That's correct?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Out of how many? How many are coming?

Speaker 4 (46:05):
This is our last monthly report before we have our
final report for September where we recommend the solution to
this problem of organized crime.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
As you sit here this morning and I don't want
to pre final report number six, do you have a solution?
Do you have something that people can go aha? Got it?

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yes, we do.

Speaker 8 (46:23):
Good.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
It will be bold and will require the government to
be bold.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
But we have a solution.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Fantastic. And are you, from your experience and interactions with
the government so far, bullish on the possibility of that
being picked up and run with or you're a bit
circumspects Still we're bullish.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
We've got a lot of support. We've had a lot
of encouragement from government, from agencies, from the public. It's
just as you know, whether that translates into the financial
support and the political will that it will need.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Okay, well, we'll get you back on the program at
the time. Back to this report. The cohesion all between
who sore you talking about the Board of the Police, etc.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
I take it we've got great work being done by
individual agencies, but each agency is focusing on their particular homework.
What we have a problem with is that siloed approach
is meaning we don't have an overall picture of what
we're doing with organized crime.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
No, this can't surprise you, presumably.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
No it doesn't. We knew this from the start. We've
got a lot of experienced people in the committee who
know this problem. And what we're saying is, let's confront
that problem, give it a solution. Take one person who
is responsible for standing up in front of the public
and saying, what are we doing about organized crime? How
are we taking the fight now?

Speaker 2 (47:40):
This is interesting because then New Zealand Initiative wrote a report.
In fact, it was a report of a report they'd
done before. We have too many ministers in this country,
and the ministers are sliced up too many ways, building
and construction, housing, et cetera, all separate portfolios. This in
your area, presumably is the same issue.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
We've got some thirteen ministers who could play a hand
in organized crime. Our point is that spread tooth them.
We need someone that the government the public can look
to to say, this is the person who's taking the
fight to organize crime and then a supporter to make
sure those other agencies are doing their job as well
as they can.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
So you need a Minister of organized crime, yes, right,
So the held accountable thing, who would it be? I
mean just off that would it be naturally the police minister,
or it could be anybody.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
It could be any minister, our priority strong minister who
is in cabinet, who has a firm voice, because the
task that they would be taking on will be obviously
a very challenging one and quite confronting one, and so
they're going to have to have be quite bold.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Is the held accountable part of it? Lack of accountability?
Is it that they don't want to be held to
account or is it they can be held to account,
they just want to point the finger at somebody else
at that department over there that's not doing their job.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
I think it's more a case of the agencies are
doing a good job a lot of there's a lot
of good people working in these agencies doing a lot
of good work, but there's no one standing back and
joining it together. For example, the information Sharing report we
did last month where we talked about there isn't fluid
information sharing going across the agencies so that we can
target organized crime. No one's packing that up because it's

(49:24):
important to each individual agency, but no one's standing back
and saying, well, collectively, we need to do this if
we're going to fight organized crime properly.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Okay, do you feel at this particular point of the
cycle in your term as chair of this that you're
adding real value to the conversation, the knowledge and potentially
an outcome. In other words, this has been worth your while.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
I think it has been worth my while. It's certainly
we're poured our energy into it. I've got a really
great committee. It's very passionate about this work, and we're
all at a station in our career where we're doing
this because we want to make a difference. The rhetoric
hearing is that we are making a difference. Even now,
we're seeing some response by agencies. We're seeing great support

(50:07):
then and the proof will be in the pudding next month.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Good stuff, mate, we'll catch up then. Appreciate it very much.
Steve Simon Sherr of the Ministerially Advisory Group for Organized Crime.
I'll get some comment from Mike Mitchell when they join us.
He joins us along with Ginny after eight eighteen.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
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Speaker 2 (50:29):
Morning, Mike manufacturing stats and decline for the quarter. Surely
it's not this quarter, it's last quarter Q two. Surely
this calls for more drastic action from the RB. Don't
even get me started about the RB. These are the
numbers that Andrew gave us earlier on this morning. So
these are numbers that were dumped yesterday, jobs numbers, manufacturing numbers,
et cetera. They are from Q two. They will be
added up and worked over and they'll be presented in

(50:51):
the overall Q two GDP number which is coming out
next week. It will be in decline, it will be backwards.
So we went up in Q one and a lot
and a lot more than we thought. Good, fantastic. Then
we fell apart. The crime and falling apart was the
Reserve Bank. And never forget this, the Reserve Bank didn't
see it. So the people in charge of overseeing the

(51:13):
economy in its state and playing their particular role it
is limited, but nevertheless they have a role and protecting
us from that. They were absent. They were working from
home that day. They didn't see it, and the cuts
that should have come didn't come. They held, remember, they held,
and they finally got drag kicking and screaming last time
for another quarter point. They should have gone. I've forgotten

(51:36):
his name, but Kiwi Bank, Jared, the economist at Kiwibanks.
He's been saying fifty to fifteen, Gregg Smith, our Greg Smith,
fifty fifty, fifty, fifty and fifty and they've not listened
to it, and they're right, and the clowns at the
RB are wrong. So anyway, what do you do now?
Then I go and infuriate myself further by looking up

(51:59):
members of the the Advertising Standards Authority. Now I don't
deal much with the Advertising Standards Authority because I'm not
really in advertising. I'm in broadcasting an ideal with the BSA.
And there are a bunch of clowns as well, and
just a complete and utter waste of time. I mean,
they're not clowns in the sense I know one of
the guys on it, John, my mate John's on it,
and he's a good guy. But what a waste. And

(52:20):
the ASA appears to be the same because they've come
out and they were was it the ASA and the BSA.
We're going to be joined together and that's now off. Yeah,
that's another Paul Goldsmith's special. I don't know what he's
been doing. I mean, I like Paul as well. My
problem is I've got a big heart and I just
like everybody, even when they're incompetent. So Paul Goldsmith's a
nice guy. But what he's doing in media, I've got
no idea because he hasn't done a damn thing. So

(52:41):
they were going to move ASA and the BSA, but
they're not going to do that for reasons best known
to themselves anyway. Meantime, back at the ASA, they announced
yesterday the Tina from Turner's ad, which is the one
with the lines the cops are looking for it, the
one your auntie says, look shit, you got so fat,
the seats don't fit, you know, the one we all
laughed at, thought that's quite a cool add.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Team, and then eventually got thoroughly sick and tired.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
That's it, the same with all advertising. But I mean
it's in trouble for for it. No, no, it's not. Unfortunately,
Tina from Turner's is probably one and Glenn and I
are old copywriters where we crafted. We crafted away for
many years writing ads. So we're creatives. Not only do
we have big hearts, but we're creatives. We know a
good we know a good campaign when we see one.
So Tina from Turner's is one of the cleverest modern

(53:26):
interpretations of creative expression. We've seen many, many a year.
But oh no, the good old ASA, some some idiot,
his name will be Brian, he will have complained about this,
And anyway, the ASA decided yesterday the ad was quote
a disgrace to Kiwi's because of the aforementioned line. Because

(53:47):
the spinning they're smoking up, they're doing a burnout. Now
that allegedly means that that's a legal activity and shouldn't
be in an ad. I mean, come on, and when
we've got the line, the cops are looking for it.
That implies the car stolen, that all of that if
you have literally no sense of humor and you're barely
human and you take yourself far too bloody. Seriously, the

(54:09):
rest of us just found it entertaining and engaging in
a very successful campaign. So when I get to be
Minister of Broadcasting, let me write this law.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
I remember I rode An ad once for a liquor
store and they were selling something. Then I said it
was going to warm the cockles of your heart now,
And I wasn't allowed to say that because it was
making a medical claim.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
See thing that because you were doing that in nineteen
seventy three. See things haven't changed that bay. So when
I get to be a Minister of Broadcasting, the first
thing I'm going to do is close down the ASA,
followed very shortly by the BSA and we can all
get on with life.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
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Speaker 2 (54:48):
Seven away from eight And an idea for our rearport's
integration is what they're talking about, bringing domestic into international
terminals together. The Mercurious Group have done this particular work
there so when ease customer angst overheads and ultimately deliver
cheaper plane tickets. Do you believe that? Billy Moore's the
chief executive at New Zealand the Airport's Association, And as
with us, Billy, good morning. I believe you're in China.

(55:09):
Are you up early for us?

Speaker 17 (55:11):
I sure am anything for your listeners.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
You're very kind, Billy very well, said has this report
got a logic to it.

Speaker 11 (55:18):
Absolutely it does.

Speaker 17 (55:20):
Integration is the dream for all airports. It helps airports
build better and save on KPEX spend over time. It
also makes a passenger experience better, access to more amenities,
and better and often less screening processes. So they're definitely
onto something with this.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
They say integration's quite common overseas, not so much here.
Is that true?

Speaker 17 (55:44):
Yeah, that's right. There's a few reasons why. There's a
couple of different aspects to this. Our goal ultimately would
be for harmonized screening processes, so that's where domestic and
international screening processes would be the same, meaning we could
integrate screening the lanes and dwell spaces. The report talks
about the fact that there's also stage screening, so processes

(56:07):
where international and domestic passengers are screened together first in
the international passagers screen another time stay at the gate
before you head to your flight. That's possible in places
like Australia. They highlight Adelaide and part of the reason
for that will be because the reports manage security screening
in Australia themselves, rather than it being a government agency

(56:30):
like we have here, giving them more flexibility in how
they apply it.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Do you believe? And all reports would say the same thing.
Once you get these so called efficiencies, everyone saves money
and the fees are cheaper and the tickets are cheap
And none of that's actually true is it in reality?

Speaker 8 (56:45):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (56:45):
Look, it's a little bit more nuanced than that when
it's a priority for us, because when we look at it,
we're planning it. Infrastructure speen in safe thirty years in advance.
There as savings from kfex planning when you can create
more spaces, But where the savings come in are where
you can lay around the operational efficiencies on top of that.

(57:05):
So for instance, look at Wellington right now, you've got
three screening areas. If you can reduce that down, the
operational savings from staffing etc. On top of that really
do make a difference. So it's about the combination of
things and creating better spaces and better efficiencies on top
of that.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
The report talks about a moving passengers into a singular
depressurized experience. Is that just gobbledy Google? Is that real?

Speaker 17 (57:31):
Look at as real? The more that you can have
one space, it means that passengers will have access to
more retail more amenity. Sometimes at some reports you do
find that when you get through to your secure boarding
area of his list to do so, they're highlighting that,
you know, there can be a better experience for everyone,

(57:53):
the greater the spaces and the more integrated the spaces
that people can wait in.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Good on your Billy, What time is it four o'clock?

Speaker 17 (58:00):
It's three fifty six.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Yeah, so what do you do now? You're going back
to better? Are you going for a little bit of breakfast?

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (58:07):
Look, I'll probably have a little bit more restore over here.
I'm doing some cooperation with the Chinese efforts, and look,
the volumes they deal with always have big ideas for us.
So I'll have some sleep and get ready for some
more discussions.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Ah, it's a pleasure. Billy nice one. Billy Moore, chief
Executive News in the Neapols Association up for us at
three fifty five in the morning, which reminds me of
Simon Watts, Minister of the Crown, who the other day
was in Canberra and would have needed to have been
up to us, up for us at five point thirty
in the morning, but apparently that was far too early,
far too early for a Minister, but not too early
for Billy Moore in China. Just saying so, Mark and

(58:45):
Jenny Foress in the next half hour of the program
before we go to Steve Price out of Australia. Meantime,
the news is, oh, by the way, the Muwana Pacific story.
I've got to get that to year before eight thirty
and nine, the Mwana Pacific story. Remember the government money,
the loans, et cetera. New developments on that for you
as well.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
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Speaker 2 (59:28):
She sang incomprehensible, and she sang incomprehensible. All right, she hike.
This will be the sixth album. The fifth was a
sprawling double LP. An LP was really an LP. We
even have LPs anymore? I'm not sure lest anyway, So
there will be the sixth album, the first to be
recorded without their founding basis Max. Max is gone.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
It is big thief.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
So I've never heard of them, should I hear?

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Right, so that's good. Do you just say that to
placate me. Yeah, it's just say more and more people
set me up these days because I've become a focus
of some Tom prulering and laughter. Osco. Let's just set
him up again. Double Infinity is the name of the album,
and there's forty five minutes and fifty two seconds and

(01:00:23):
took them nine tracks to get that far. It's all right,
This is all right. If I wanted to do a
cafe of wrong lounge on a Sunday morning today, the kids,
it's got a bit loose on the stereo again, slight.
It's eight minutes past eight. It is time for politics Wednesday.
Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell both with us. Good morning, Good morning,
by j right, good morning. Let's just do the let's

(01:00:45):
just do the obvious thing firstly and move on to
some other issues. Ginny you first, you as a former
Minister of Police, your observations of the last couple of days.

Speaker 20 (01:00:56):
Are you talking about Tom Phillips. Yes, just a tragedy,
an absolute tragedy for the community, for the family and
the children, and for the police officer who's been critically injured,
in his family and colleagues. So no one wins out
of situations like this, and it's a tough time for

(01:01:18):
all of New Zealand to watch this roll out to
day by.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Day and from your observation, did the police over the
last four years and you would have been part of
this of course do their job.

Speaker 20 (01:01:28):
I think the police do an amazing job, and this
is an incredibly complex situation. I've been into that area
myself over the last few years and looked around and
it is a very remote and difficult part of New
Zealand to navigate, with a lot of back roads. So
I think the police did everything they could, keeping in
mind that there are three children involved at the same time.

Speaker 21 (01:01:50):
Mark, Yeah, I mean the police is quite simply you've
been outstanding. The Commissioner and I spent time with the
officer's family yesterday. We took his wife with us up
to the hospital to visit him. He's got a long
road to recovery, but he's got a road to recovery
and that's what we're thankful about. Just wanted to reassure

(01:02:11):
him that, of course, his family going to be looked
after and have the support wrapped around that they need
and a chance to be able to acknowledge him in
the outstanding work that he did. The two officers that
were with him, without a doubt saved his life. It
was obvious that Phillips was intent on killing him through
his actions, and of course, the huge relief is that
now we've got those children in a safe situation where

(01:02:33):
they can be looked after and get them back on
a healthy pathway to recovery as well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Do you have a view, Mark? Is it enough now
for the media that the media need to back off
and just like let this thing play out and some
of the kids to be left alone and the agencies
to do their job, or is there enough interest from
the public to know more and therefore the sort of
coverage we're starting to see as acceptable.

Speaker 21 (01:02:57):
I think there's genuine public interest in this, of course,
and so they'll probably and the police will keep the
public updated in terms of as the investigations progress. But
I think that if I think all of us as key,
we as a country would agree that the privacy of
those children, looking after those children and giving them the
best possible start get will restart is what everyone is

(01:03:19):
focused on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Do you have a view, Ginny?

Speaker 20 (01:03:21):
I think it reflects the age that we live in
where everybody gets to be a commentator because of social media,
and when you're talking about the well being of three
young people. It does make it really difficult. They've still
got to live here in New Zealand and grow up
in New Zealand. So my foremost concerns that their privacy
and their well being is protected, and that's a challenging

(01:03:44):
time given that the age we live in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
What mark do you do? And I'm not trying to
get you in trouble or anyone in trouble. I'm just
interested in this. There's a suppression order here. That suppression
order does not apply clearly to social media and it
will not apply to the international media once they get
their hands on. What do you do as a legislator?
Are we living as the horse bolted? In other words?
I mean, this is just essentially a waste of time.

Speaker 21 (01:04:09):
Well, I agree with you that we live in an
age now where people are going to report things online.
But obviously you know in our position as ministers that
we have to the courts have put out directions on
this case at the moment, which means that there are
certain things that we can't talk about and we just
have to be we have to comply with that. But
you're right that international media, those that aren't that don't

(01:04:30):
have to comply with those rules, will report on things
and get information out there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
So, Jenny, what's the point.

Speaker 20 (01:04:37):
I mean, we had the same situation with the Grace
Malane case where there were identity details released about the
offender in that instance that were not that were made
public and compromised the judicial process here in New Zealand
and so you know, I think potentially we could take
another look at our laws, you know, around how are
they working, how are we dealing with an age of
social media when privacy needs to be protected and order

(01:05:00):
for the integrity of judicial or an inquiry to take its.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Place in BAK Sorry, no, it's going to say.

Speaker 21 (01:05:08):
The point that why it's making though, is that our
laws did not extend internationally, so we cannot control what
people are doing in other countries or the or the
locked and donor at all effect. Quite the opposite, is it,
especially if you're taking into account young children. Yeah, a
responsibility around this is critically important, but that's not the
era that we live in.

Speaker 11 (01:05:27):
No, it is not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
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Mark Mitchell a couple of quick comments if you wouldn't
mind mark you on Julie Christy as in the documentary maker,
she's got access apparently to some sort of inside information
from the police and is making a doco on this.
Is that acceptable in your view or not?

Speaker 11 (01:05:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:05:53):
Absolutely, I mean she's I think she's been making a
doco and following the story now for a while and
they've made they've gone through all the correct protocols and
made sure that they have done things the right way.
Of course, there's some things that they have access to
some areas and and and some people, and obviously where
it's appropriate, access is blocked. But from what I understand,

(01:06:17):
they've gone through all the correct protocols to be able.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
To do that. How do we ask for privacy for
the kids while doing a documentary.

Speaker 21 (01:06:23):
Well, that's something they're going to have to work out
and figure out, because of course, the priority around anything
that we do is going to be around the privacy
and the welfare of those children. So that is something
that police obviously will have to bring forward and work
out with Julie and the work they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
You're going to view, Jinny.

Speaker 20 (01:06:42):
Look, I'd have to say the details. I haven't been
privy to what they've been given access to. But my
primary concerns are these kids have to go to school
in New Zealand. They have to live, no doubt in
small town New Zealand, and so my concern is that
when you get things like that yet, it just increases
your tension on them in their lives, and that's really
my worry.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
You said something interesting, Jenny, I may have misinterpreted what
you were meaning you talked about. You'd been there. It's
a difficult part of the country. What surprised me is
the reaction we've had over the last few years from
some of the people who live in that area and
support that going. It strikes me there is something wrong
with parts of New Zealand. Or it's just maybe that
we're in urban New Zealand completely out of touch with

(01:07:23):
that particular style of New Zealand living. But it seems
to me at times a different world.

Speaker 20 (01:07:29):
It is a different world. I've been into that road.
It's one road into essentially quite a closed community who
everyone knows each other. There's kind of a local agreement
that you only let someone by land once they pass
a test, and they all have a say on who
gets to come in. So it's a very tight knit,
closed community and it's a very difficult terrain, and those

(01:07:49):
two kind of go hand in hand. So I think
that there are parts of there are parts there that
would have known where he was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Yeah, are they sort of sovereign citizen esque?

Speaker 20 (01:08:00):
Well, I went into the pub and they seem very nice.
I had a good chat with a number of locals
in there, and they were very welcoming and open. So
I wouldn't say so, but I'd say that everyone knows
who everyone is, and they know a lot about what
goes on locally, and it's very unusual to have a
stranger come into that community.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
You agree, I just say that no.

Speaker 21 (01:08:18):
I just think that our rural communities are quite simply outstanding.
They do look after each other and keep an eye
up for each other, but they're no different to any
other key we in the set of values that we hold,
and I think that I think that what I would
say is this is that the police are being very
clear and I'm being clear about this as well. Anyone
that has been supporting and enabling him. There is now

(01:08:39):
a very thorough ongoing police investigation and they will be
held to account.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Okay, super quick. On another thing News of the morning,
this ministerial inquiry and organized crime. Do you agree Mark
that we need a Minister of Organized Crime?

Speaker 21 (01:08:56):
Well, I agree that we needed to have a Ministerial
Advisory Group set up to so that we could have
a look and see that. These are all recommendations that
have been forward. I'm not going to preempt it that
has to go through a full cabinet process. I'm not
going to pre empt any decisions that are going to
be in cabinet. But the one thing I would say
is that we already have already started work across government
to make sure that we have a much more joined
up approach to how we deal with youized international organized

(01:09:20):
crime and gangs and crime in this country.

Speaker 20 (01:09:22):
Okay, Jinny, I've got yeah, I've seen from Justice Committee.
So we've got Nicole McKee who's getting rid of all
the red tape on anti money laundering with one hand
of the government, and the other hand, you've got Casey
Costello who's cracking down on an organized crime and making
sure it's tough for four gangs to do their business.
So just within this government alone, there's two quite different
agendas that they're conflicting in terms of how we have

(01:09:44):
one unified response.

Speaker 21 (01:09:46):
Well, I'm in New Zealand, so I'm inside the government.
I work with both of those ladies that we sit
down together constantly figuring out what we need to do.
We're actually making really good in roads and dealing with
with both transnational crime and organized crime. Been over in
Australia and they're admiring the work.

Speaker 7 (01:10:02):
That we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Are we working across ministers? However?

Speaker 21 (01:10:05):
The mag report just gives us a good signal in
terms of how we continue to build on that work.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Okay, real quick, both of you, because just to get
a comment that this is typical of the texts, we're
receiving a lot of not totally but a lot of
embarrassing for police not finding the guy for four years. Pathetic, Really, Genny,
you say.

Speaker 20 (01:10:23):
Well, look, I think it's very difficult to understand how
that the work for the police pans out. So I'm
not going to pass judgment on New Zealand police. They
work incredibly in difficult situations and this one was a
complex case. So I think you need to have an
understanding of all those details, and I'm sure they will
come out once the investigation is complete, but I think

(01:10:45):
people need to see all of that information before they
pass judgment.

Speaker 21 (01:10:49):
Mark Well, I totally reject that there shouldn't be passing
judgment like that if you actually have a look at
what unfolded with the arrest and the attempt at arrest
of Tom Phillips, is that he can he had multiple firearms,
he had intent to there was no way that he
was going to be taken peacefully, and he had three
children in the bush. It presented probably the worst case

(01:11:12):
scenario for police in terms of trying to deal with that,
and the forefront of their minds and everything that they're
doing was the safe recovery of those children. Of course
they wanted a peacefully outcome with Tom Phillips himself, but
it was very clear by the actions that we saw
unfold we now have a police officer with critical injuries
in hospital having to recover, and I think the police
quite simply have approached have taken the right approach on this.

(01:11:35):
It has always been around the safety of the children
and I think if they'd stumbled and it would have
been easy for them to put an operation together and
go in there and try and raid the camp and
recover them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
But look at what might have occurred.

Speaker 21 (01:11:47):
In fact, probably what would have occurred, as you know,
you could have ended up with a complete tragedy with
the loss of the children.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
All Right, guys, appreciate it very much. Mike Mitchell, Ginny
Anderson A twenty two from the.

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HR Institute yesterday tells us that twenty five percent of
Australian businesses are looking to make redundancies in the September quarter.
That's the quarter coming up. In other words, October November December.
They're looking to lay off before Christmas. So what's turning?
Things aren't looking good in the job marketing and Australia.
In the economy in general. The GDP figure has been downgraded.
So this another matters with our very good friends Stephen
Price out of Australian Big Redland to the left of

(01:13:33):
us after the News, which is next on the mic Hosking.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
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Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Does anyone know why the Warriors aren't on Free to
wear at any time this weekend? Maybe Sunday for twenty
minutes highlights? No, Well, I can tell you why they're not.
Because the people who buy the rights pay money, and
when they pay the money, they then want the audience,
and they wrap some advertising and some marketing around that
audience because they paid the money to recoup the money
and hopefully make some profit. And the moment they say well,
look you like some free to air coverage, that audience

(01:14:10):
disappears over there and it doesn't pay for Sky Sport.
And that's how that's how the whole thing works. The
only reason you'll see excuse me, like the World Cup
next year and the football is because TV instead of one,
for example, the World Cup, and they're a free to
wear operators, so they want to boost the numbers on
free to wear, so you'll see the All Whites game
on free to wear but the rest you'll have to
pay for, or occasionally something like the all Blacks will

(01:14:31):
get a little free to wear outing or a delayed
free to wear outing, because you know, there's a general
acceptance that a national sportlight rugby should be seen by
the widest possible audience. But in the Warrior's case, that
ain't how it works. Twenty three to nine.

Speaker 14 (01:14:47):
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for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
I think three paces for this morning.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Now you're indigenous treaty in Victoria. Will that mean people
from around Australia will go, my word, that's a good state.
I can't wait to move there? Or will it not
quite work that way?

Speaker 18 (01:15:06):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:15:06):
I don't think it'll work that way. And as you know,
when we went to a national referendum over a voice
to the Australian Parliament through the Constitution, overwhelmingly Australians voted
no over sixty percent. And that vote in Victoria even
was much higher than fifty percent, I think around fifty four.
But the hard left government in Victoria says, but no,
don't worry about that. We don't care what you voted

(01:15:27):
in a referendum, we're going to do it anyway, and
the legislation was introduced to Victorian Parliament yesterday. What does
it mean, Well, it means there'll be an established elected
Council of Indigenous Victorians, only Indigenous Victorians. It'll be called
Gelung Wall. It'll have direct line to ministers, direct line
to department secretaries and even to the Victorian Police Commissioner.

(01:15:49):
The new body will have a dedicated office in Parliament,
in the People's Parliament, and the treaty will also seek
school children as young as four years old. So from
prep up talked about the enduring harm. That's a quote
from the Bill of Colonization and parks and waterways will
be renamed. It's a thirty four page treaty agreement negotiated

(01:16:13):
over the last four years and will it will act
on things like recommendations for increased land rights, compensation and
tax relief for Indigenous Victorians. So it's very wide spread.
It will touch every aspect of life because it says

(01:16:33):
if you're an if you're trying to pass a law
in the Victorian Parliament and it affects Indigenous Australians.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Then we have a right to query that a couple
of questions. Is it designed broadly from Jacenter's point of view,
as a recognition of past wrongs, or is it set
out with specific KPIs to achieve things like access to education, welfare, etc.

Speaker 7 (01:16:58):
Not the former, And it's already costs three hundred million dollars.
The actual office that I mentioned that will be established
inside the Victorian Parliament's just going to be slung a
lazy seventy million dollars a year to operate. And this
is in a state that is completely broke with pothole roads,
bad health services. I mean, seriously, this is probably the

(01:17:21):
last straw for a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
The next question, when you say Indigenous Victorians in this
country to be Mari or to be recognized as Maray,
you simply have to say, I'm Maori. Is that the
same in Victoria?

Speaker 7 (01:17:33):
I think there's a percentage. Don't quote me on this,
but I think it's around six percent.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Well, how do you prove that?

Speaker 7 (01:17:40):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
What's that?

Speaker 7 (01:17:41):
Who does sign a test resumed? Probably the DNA test?
And I should point out that the indigenous population of Victoria,
the population of Victoria's about seven million, is about sixty
eight thousand Indigenous Victorians or one percent of the population.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
I'll tell you what, mate, You've made victory glory sound
really just not today, but the various stories just really
really appealing as a place. It's just like, bloody hell.
Now the stabbing on these two boys, where are we at.

Speaker 7 (01:18:12):
We've got no arrest the group of eight who attacked
these two boys on their way home from a basketball game,
one twelve years old and one fifteen years old. The
fifteen year old had his hand hacked off. I said
that to you the other day. It's just horrendous. The
heralds On newspapers managed to hack into one of the
social media sites that these kids are using. They actually

(01:18:34):
had to read the paper, had to ring Triple Oh
yesterday and alert them that there was messages going between
two students at two different schools about meeting up outside
of schoolgate armed with machetes to respond to what happened
on Saturday night at eight o'clock in the western suburbs
of Melbourne. And the police turned up and they managed
to make sure that that did not occur. We are

(01:18:55):
starting to see, you know, we knew this, but in
the background, you've got this whole social media taunting. You've
got the language, you've got the rap music, and we
have a team crime crisis and the Premier won't admit it.
In fact, yesterday in state Parliament the Opposition leader Brad
Batten became the first opposition leader I think for a
couple of generations to be thrown out of parliament. He

(01:19:17):
kept asking the Premier questions she refused to answer, and
so he was banned from parliament for two weeks. Interesting,
I mean, the whole thing is just out of control.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Is he any good? Because the obvious question to ask
is I mean, it's all very well, who's setting up
recognition counsels and all that sort of stuff, But at
the end of the day, they do keep getting reelected.
Is he leading a resurgence of the coalition or not?

Speaker 7 (01:19:38):
No, he's not the answer, Sadley. He's a very nice bloke, Brad,
former police officer, former prison officer, but he just does
have no cut through. They desperately need a high profile
Conservative or middle Conservative leader to take them to the
next question.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Steve, Steve, you're describing yourself, mate.

Speaker 7 (01:19:57):
No, No, I'll be getting my AO for Victorian tourism
recommendation all right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Actually by the way. Just let me ask you, this
is coalition thing I'm following. So as Susan lady, you
think so one they've got problems on immigration. Two they've
got problems on that. Zero is she sitting there in
a quiet moments do you think right now going this
is harder than I thought and I really don't need this? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:20:19):
Probably? I mean I don't think she says she doesn't
need it. She believes she can do this. But she's
a moderate and what do he tell her you need
here now is a conservative leader who can argue the case.
I mean, she's got a problem, as you said, on
that to Europe. She won't make a decision on that.
And now she's got a Roague centator and Nampa Jim
the Price who came out at the weekend saying, look,

(01:20:39):
the Labor Party is bringing a lot of Indian immigrants
into the country because they don't labor. Well, the world
has caved in around the Liberals out of this. I
mean most Australians, well a lot of Australians would agree
that there is vote stacking off the back of immigration.
And so I don't know why send of the Price
is being absolutely lambastard for what she said. She's refused
to apologize. She's a toughie. She won't apologize. But Susan

(01:21:04):
Lee is just sitting there, you know, like a still
dummy getting punched every day. I don't know that she'll
last all that long.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Quick comment on the economy. Yesterday, the Australian hr Institute
said twenty five percent of businesses are looking at redundancies
in the September quarter. So that's you know, we're talking
to October and November December. Would that be your assessment
of the economy. Things are type, people are losing. You know,
the whole thing's sort of tightened up, if not turned
a little bit well.

Speaker 7 (01:21:27):
To give you an example, ANZ Bank laid off three
thousand people yesterday, so you know when you get that
sort of number of people, I mean banking and back
office operations in banks can be done off shore. We
all know that. That's probably part of the reason. But
the economy is just hanging on. The productivity is not improving,
and you know, the economy has been protected and stoked

(01:21:49):
by two things, immigration and huge government spending on major projects.
That's what's happening. Part of an enterprise in this country.
The major miners have said, look, we're not investing in
Australia more because we can go to America and make
more money. That's where we're going.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Hey, you're off for a couple of weeks. As you return,
is this a sort of a summer winter thing you're
now sort of like you spend summer slash windo in
Europe or something. Because I'm sure you're in Italy the
other day. No, I was in Japan the other day
in Greece. When were you in Greece this time last year?

Speaker 7 (01:22:22):
An annual event. I've got jobs to do over there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
I've got work to carry out in Italy.

Speaker 7 (01:22:27):
Ill in Italy and Tuscany drinking barollo for the next
three weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
And that's your Your job is to drink barollo? Is
it in Tuscany?

Speaker 7 (01:22:36):
Direct? Nice job if you can get it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
I was going to say you'd be pretty good at it,
wouldn't you.

Speaker 7 (01:22:41):
I'm a star at that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Well, we'll catch up soon. Set price out of well
Melbourne now in Italy. In the next couple is Murray
doing the business? Is Murray on next week? He's not? Oh,
you tell me, we've got a production problem. We've got
no one left. We got no one for next week. Sorry,
no Australian Correspondent apparently for next week fourteen to two.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
That be just funnily enough. Yesterday the Australian Future Fund,
which is sort of like our super fund. I know
they've got a different super fund and everyone pays and
the employers pay in. They've got their problem solve retirement.
We don't. Anyway, they've got a future fund they too.
Because we were talking about our superannuation fund yesterday, what
was ours? Eleven points something? Was just under twelve I
think from memory the Australian Future Funds was twelve point two.

(01:23:30):
So in other words, it's exactly the same. So I
think they're riding the same markets. Basically, two hundred and
fifty billion is their size of theirs. Ours is about
eighty something. They'd added ninety billion dollars worth of changes
to the investment portfolio, so they've done well as well.
They made a decision in twenty one to increase their
risk appetite to chase returns and a tougher investing environment.

(01:23:50):
Blah blah, blah. Anyway, So they're doing well, We're doing well,
so I suppose that's good news. Just on the Israeli
attack overnight two Quitar chasing hamas the seems to be
a bit of back and forth, Carolyn out of the
White House said, well, Katar initially said no one told
us this was coming. Then Carolyn at the White House
said no, I don't worry. We took care of it
all because Whitcoff was on the phone and warning them. Well,

(01:24:13):
now the quitar is sing is simply not true.

Speaker 11 (01:24:16):
The attack was.

Speaker 12 (01:24:19):
Surprise one hundred percent, and you didn't know of it
until all the information that's being circulated and the rumors
that is a spreading is not as baseless.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
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an Australian correspondent. This is Semi's on game problem. You

(01:25:59):
just wanted to share that with you. So Murray's away
as well.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
So if anybody's going over there in the next couple week,
you have anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Anyone's in Australia for the next couple of weeks, give
us a call and we'll just yarn. It's Monday winds
and Friday, isn't it Monday windster in and Friday? After eight? Therety,
you can be a correspond you want to be a correspondent.
Why not? How hard can it be? Five away from night.

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