Marcus Beveridge: Queen City Law Immigration Lawyer on the number of citizens leaving New Zealand

An expectation New Zealand needs to do more to keep people here longer. 

Latest Stats NZ data shows close to 48 thousand New Zealand citizens left in the year to July. 

There were 14 thousand migrant arrivals and nearly 10 thousand departures during the same period. 

Immigration lawyer Marcus Beveridge told Mike Hosking half of the citizens leaving for Australia weren't born here. 

He says the government could look at extending the period new residents have to be here before they become a citizen. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
So to these stats on migration in the years of July,
our neck gain is down to thirteen one hundred. July
itself numbers were up fourteen thousand, which is eight percent
more than July of last year. So, like all these things,
it depends on how you read it. Marcus Beveridge, as
the managing director of Immigration lawyer at Quen City Lawren's
back with It's Marcus morning.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hey Mike hanging well.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I am. My great concern is that we get to
less than zero and we're a net exporter of people.
Do you see it getting down to that or are
we bottoming out here?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
We really need to sort of grab this and do
a bit of an engine rebar instead of tweaking around
the side. So I think half of the citizens leaving
New Zealand going to Ossie weren't born here and they
have to remain. You know, new residents have to stay
here for five years before they become citizens of New
Zealand then can jump across the ditch. So that's one
thing we could extend that period. But we know when

(00:51):
less people coming, less work is less tax and take,
it can turn into a bit of a vicious cycle.
And you know, a lot of the people leaving probably
are more to the right of politics, so it means
that the left sort of has a much better chance
of getting in power in the mad hatters, and then
it becomes a banana republic here.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Marcus, you just enterprising me. You're following the Just Enterprise
story in Australia bringing in the Indian voters and they
all vote labor.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
There you have it. Well, I think they're I think
they're quite a malleable sort of community, and they afflick
to which episode works for them at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Having said that, as far as the people leaving versus
the people coming in, Peters makes the speech over the weekend,
I thought was interesting. Thirty percent of people in this
country now weren't born here. Did you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I no, I didn't know that precisely. But I've been
waiting for Winston to fire up for immigration because he
sort of sticks to his knitting.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Doesn't he Yes, he does. But that's an interesting stat
isn't that. We've seen, have we not, in the last
handful of years a profound change in the makeup of
this country population wise? We have?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
And and the thing is, if you look at someone
like Ronald Reagan and his speech to America about replenishing
and refreshing the stock of people coming through buying into
the American dream. New Zealand is still widely seen as
the land of milk and honey, and if we open
the door we get a big influx of immigration that
the migrants have very small, short memories, so even if

(02:16):
we don't think we're doing that well, they still think
it's a wonderful country. So if we get the settings right,
we can actually kind of stimulate a lot of activity here.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
So the key is in the setting. Is always good
to have you on the program. Marks Beverbridge, Managing Director
of Immigration lawyer at Queen City Law. This Morning. For
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