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September 16, 2025 1 min

If it's any help to those chained to Nicola Willis' office, there is a decent piece I read yesterday asking whether Israel was heading towards a South Africa moment. 

In an interview this week, Netanyahu seemed to accept some sort of isolation was a price his country was, and is, paying for as a result of the war. 

But none of that has been brought about by people chaining themselves to door handles. 

Nor would the cause have been advanced in any way, shape, or form by Nicola taking communion with them. Nor indeed by the march that wandered through parts of Auckland over the weekend. 

What has led the war to the point it is, is severalfold. 

Firstly, Hamas started it. That is an indisputable fact. The raid of two years ago was entirely on them. 

What happened next has happened numerous times in one form or another. 

Hamas starts it, Israel responds. They have responded the way they have this time, once again, for a couple of reasons. 

1) It was a particularly brazen attack. 

2) America has a president that doesn’t mind the sort of retaliation that has taken place. 

Never before have we seen drawings of a new Middle East, with millions of Gazans living in a Trump-like Floridian Eutopia. 

Now, it's fair to suggest events of the last few days i.e. the attack in Qatar, has pushed the Americans to the limit, if not beyond. 

But you will note that Rubio is currently in the Middle East and still shaking hands with Netanyahu and still happy to be in the photo. 

In the meantime, back here, nuns are chained to door handles, people wave flags and the angst in the media over whether we will recognise Palestine next month in New York is palpable. 

But to reiterate, at no point do any of our actions make a jot of difference. Once this particular chapter is over, in whatever form that takes, we will go back to a relatively stable period of co-existence. 

Until someone does something stupid all over again, which of course they will. 

This story has been told many, many times over. When hate drives the narrative nothing ever really changes. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now, if it's any help to those chained to Nikola
Willis's office, there is a decent piece of ready yesterday
about whether Israel was heading towards a South Africa moment.
A further in an interview this week Netnya who seems
to accept that some sort of isolation was the price's
country was and is paying for as a result of
this particular war. But none of that, None of that
has been brought about by people chaining themselves to door handles,

(00:22):
nor would the cause have been advanced in any way,
shape or form by a Nicola taking communion with them,
nor indeed by the march that wandered through parts of
Auckland over the weekend. What has led the war to
this point is several faults. Firstly, Hamas started. This is
an indisputable fact. The raid of two years ago was
entirely on them. What happened next has happened numerous times
in one form or another, Hamas starts at Israel respond

(00:45):
that responded the way they have this time once again
for a couple of reasons. One it was particularly brazen attack,
and two America has a president that doesn't mind the
sort of retaliation that's taken place. Never before have we
seen drawings of a new Middle East with millions of
Gars living in a trump like Fularidian utopia. Now it
is fair to suggest events of the last few days
i e. The attack and guitar has pushed the Americans

(01:07):
to the limit of not beyond. But you will note
that Rubio is currently in the Middle East and still
shaking hands with Netanyahoo and still happy to be seen
in the photo. Meantime, back here, nuns are chained door handles,
people wave flags, and the angst and the media over
whether we will recognize Palestine next month in New York
is palpable. But to reiterate, at no point do any
of our actions make a jot of difference. And once

(01:28):
this particular chapter is over, in whatever form that takes,
we will go back to a relative stable period of
coexistence until someone does something stupid all over again, which
of course they will. This story has been told many, many, many,
many many times over. When hate drives the narrative, nothing
ever really changes. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast,

(01:50):
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or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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