September 17, 2025 • 5 mins
The US President's been treated to a day of processions, gifts and flypasts in his second state visit to the UK.
Donald Trump's attending a state banquet at Windsor Castle, hosted by King Charles, with about 150 other guests.
The King is cherishing the close ties between American and British people, saying the ocean may divide the two countries, but they're the 'closest of kin.'
UK Correspondent Rod Liddle told Mike Hosking they’re flinging every bit of royal regalia that they can at Trump in order to curry favour, and it seems to be working.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right to the UK. We go run a little bit
of morning to you.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Good morning Mike.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Now Trump, the dinner, the pomp, the pedgeantry. It's I mean,
how gripped is Britain by this as an exercise? Do
you think?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I don't think the ordinary people are terribly gripped one
way or the other. I mean, there are something like
five thousand protesters in London. Fortunately Trump isn't going anywhere
near London, but they're all saying, what a ghastly band,
what a ghastly man. The rest of the country is
just watching on slightly bemusedly. The only person this is
for is Donald Trump. We are flinging every bit of
(00:33):
royal regalia at him that we can in order to
be in order to curry favor. And it seems to
work work last time on his first state visit. It
seems to be working now.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It talks about the power of the monarchy, doesn't it.
I mean, I don't know what Charles thinks of Trump.
I can guess what Charles thinks of Trump. But you
cannot underestimate the power of soft diplomacy, No you can't.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
And we have that, know, we have that royal family
which many people want to do away with, and when
they're not making friends with Jeffrey Epstein, they're very useful
to us. And you know, the Royal family is it's
it's had a rough ten or fifteen years, you know,
ever since I suppose really longer than that, the death
(01:19):
of Princess Diana's. It's had its problems, but at times
like this it just show you that, you know, it's
valuable for something. And so we ferry Trump to Winsor Castle.
We give him state banquets. We have a fly pasted
with the red arrows everything we can possibly fling it him.
(01:41):
We fling.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Once he leaves Windsor, he's going to go to Chickens
and he's going to meet Keyo Starmer. Is Starmer's desperate
for good news and good headlines, of course, so he'll
be welcoming that does he get? I mean, all this
take money that's flying about, is that material? Is that real?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I don't know. It seems to be. At the moment
when I first heard the figures that would be talked about,
we're talking about something in the original thirty billion quid for
some of the tex stuff. And these are deals on
AI and high tech investment, which will of course go
probably to the southeast of the country mainly, but an
(02:15):
enormous philip at a time for the economy when the
economy is pretty much on the rocks, and when Kars
Starmer is desperate for some good news. So whatever the
reality of it, we will certainly be played out as being,
you know, an enormous gift and a consequence of Sir
Kars Starmer and Peter Mandelson's and David Lammy's diplomatic efforts
(02:37):
with the Trump administration which have paid off. You know,
let's not take it away from them. They have managed
to get on the right side of Trump. And Trump
is an anglifier.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yes he is. He does seem to genuinely enjoy himself.
Having said that the steel tariffs, which you're at twenty
five percent, which was good compared to some countries, I
think you were hoping for zero zero's off. If that
doesn't come to pass, I mean, the relationship, the whole
terror of thing did. What do you does grinham Baru?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I think we grin and bear it. It's still better
than what the U use getting That sort of matters
to us right now. This is the way England has
viewed its history for the last one thousand years. Are
we doing better than the French and on that particular,
that particular issue, than we are. No, it looks as
if the plea for no Taos at all has indeed
(03:25):
been roundly dismissed. More importantly is what is what perhaps
Starma will have to say to Trump on the issues
of Ukraine and Israel and Russia. It is it will
be tricky raising those problems, and also, of course what
(03:46):
he's got to say to about mandleson which will have
There will have to be some sort of exchange over mandalsoon,
which brings you into the Epstein business.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yes it does. You have a good weekend. Rod will
catch up with you soon if you're not up on
the India. Just a couple of quick things out of Britain.
The Eritrean bloke was successful in court. He was one
of the one in one outsid. There's none and none
out so far, so that's turning into the predictable bust.
I will come back because I don't have time at
the moment. But the Scottish Parliament has passed a new
law the removal of not proven They have three things
(04:18):
in a court in Scotland. One is guilty, one is
not guilty, and one is not proven. And they finally,
after years of arguing about it, changed that. But when
I get time, I will come back to that. Because Mike,
a bit of hypocrisy from the King, alienated a brother
then welcomes another Epstein friend lost any support they clang
onto in this household. Well, you're reading it completely wrong
and in a way you're so exercised about it. I
(04:40):
saw a protest as saying exactly the same thing from
the streets of London yesterday. What you've got to understand
is the president is the president. You know, Andrew's just
a dufas who hangs around the family and as a
bit of a spare royal. The President is the duly
elected representative of the United States of America. You may
not like him, you may not like the way he's
(05:00):
behaved allegedly or not, but the fact is he's the
most powerful man in the world and you've got to
deal with them. It's as simple as that. And that's
where you get to a pole for old Kia came
out in Wales. They're having a vote in Wales next
year on this poll out This morning has the government
the Labor Party in absolute distrates. It's a you gov
poll thirty percent to the local party. The Thecomery Party
flooed Cremery Reform is up four to twenty nine. Labour
(05:23):
have dropped another four. They're down at fourteen, only beating
the Tories to eleven. So Wales looks like it might
get flipped in May next year unless things changed dramatically.
For more from The mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Right to the UK. We go run a little bit
of morning to you.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Good morning Mike.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Now Trump, the dinner, the pomp, the pedgeantry. It's I mean,
how gripped is Britain by this as an exercise? Do
you think?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I don't think the ordinary people are terribly gripped one
way or the other. I mean, there are something like
five thousand protesters in London. Fortunately Trump isn't going anywhere
near London, but they're all saying, what a ghastly band,
what a ghastly man. The rest of the country is
just watching on slightly bemusedly. The only person this is
for is Donald Trump. We are flinging every bit of
(00:33):
royal regalia at him that we can in order to
be in order to curry favor. And it seems to
work work last time on his first state visit. It
seems to be working now.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It talks about the power of the monarchy, doesn't it.
I mean, I don't know what Charles thinks of Trump.
I can guess what Charles thinks of Trump. But you
cannot underestimate the power of soft diplomacy, No you can't.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
And we have that, know, we have that royal family
which many people want to do away with, and when
they're not making friends with Jeffrey Epstein, they're very useful
to us. And you know, the Royal family is it's
it's had a rough ten or fifteen years, you know,
ever since I suppose really longer than that, the death
(01:19):
of Princess Diana's. It's had its problems, but at times
like this it just show you that, you know, it's
valuable for something. And so we ferry Trump to Winsor Castle.
We give him state banquets. We have a fly pasted
with the red arrows everything we can possibly fling it him.
(01:41):
We fling.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Once he leaves Windsor, he's going to go to Chickens
and he's going to meet Keyo Starmer. Is Starmer's desperate
for good news and good headlines, of course, so he'll
be welcoming that does he get? I mean, all this
take money that's flying about, is that material? Is that real?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I don't know. It seems to be. At the moment
when I first heard the figures that would be talked about,
we're talking about something in the original thirty billion quid for
some of the tex stuff. And these are deals on
AI and high tech investment, which will of course go
probably to the southeast of the country mainly, but an
(02:15):
enormous philip at a time for the economy when the
economy is pretty much on the rocks, and when Kars
Starmer is desperate for some good news. So whatever the
reality of it, we will certainly be played out as being,
you know, an enormous gift and a consequence of Sir
Kars Starmer and Peter Mandelson's and David Lammy's diplomatic efforts
(02:37):
with the Trump administration which have paid off. You know,
let's not take it away from them. They have managed
to get on the right side of Trump. And Trump
is an anglifier.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yes he is. He does seem to genuinely enjoy himself.
Having said that the steel tariffs, which you're at twenty
five percent, which was good compared to some countries, I
think you were hoping for zero zero's off. If that
doesn't come to pass, I mean, the relationship, the whole
terror of thing did. What do you does grinham Baru?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I think we grin and bear it. It's still better
than what the U use getting That sort of matters
to us right now. This is the way England has
viewed its history for the last one thousand years. Are
we doing better than the French and on that particular,
that particular issue, than we are. No, it looks as
if the plea for no Taos at all has indeed
(03:25):
been roundly dismissed. More importantly is what is what perhaps
Starma will have to say to Trump on the issues
of Ukraine and Israel and Russia. It is it will
be tricky raising those problems, and also, of course what
(03:46):
he's got to say to about mandleson which will have
There will have to be some sort of exchange over mandalsoon,
which brings you into the Epstein business.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yes it does. You have a good weekend. Rod will
catch up with you soon if you're not up on
the India. Just a couple of quick things out of Britain.
The Eritrean bloke was successful in court. He was one
of the one in one outsid. There's none and none
out so far, so that's turning into the predictable bust.
I will come back because I don't have time at
the moment. But the Scottish Parliament has passed a new
law the removal of not proven They have three things
(04:18):
in a court in Scotland. One is guilty, one is
not guilty, and one is not proven. And they finally,
after years of arguing about it, changed that. But when
I get time, I will come back to that. Because Mike,
a bit of hypocrisy from the King, alienated a brother
then welcomes another Epstein friend lost any support they clang
onto in this household. Well, you're reading it completely wrong
and in a way you're so exercised about it. I
(04:40):
saw a protest as saying exactly the same thing from
the streets of London yesterday. What you've got to understand
is the president is the president. You know, Andrew's just
a dufas who hangs around the family and as a
bit of a spare royal. The President is the duly
elected representative of the United States of America. You may
not like him, you may not like the way he's
(05:00):
behaved allegedly or not, but the fact is he's the
most powerful man in the world and you've got to
deal with them. It's as simple as that. And that's
where you get to a pole for old Kia came
out in Wales. They're having a vote in Wales next
year on this poll out This morning has the government
the Labor Party in absolute distrates. It's a you gov
poll thirty percent to the local party. The Thecomery Party
flooed Cremery Reform is up four to twenty nine. Labour
(05:23):
have dropped another four. They're down at fourteen, only beating
the Tories to eleven. So Wales looks like it might
get flipped in May next year unless things changed dramatically.
For more from The mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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