Linda Gradstein: CBS News correspondent in Jerusalem discusses knock-on effects from Palestinian recognition

The government has decided against recognising a Palestinian state.

Foreign minister Winston Peters argues that the move would be counter-productive, but he retains the "when, not if" stance. 

CBS News correspondent in Jerusalem Linda Gradstein told Mike Hosking that Israelis are worried about a 'diplomatic front turning against Israel.' 

She said that the public want the war to end as the international community's opinion of Israel grows increasingly negative.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, we got there in the end Saturday morning, didn't
we are Foreign Minister told the world that the time
is not right to recognize Palestinian state. The line remains
it's a win, not if, but matters need to shift
on the ground before that happens. Now. Linda Gregstein's CBS
News has correspondent in Jerusalem and as well as Linda,
good morning to you.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
All those declarations we saw at the UNN and New
York last week, everywhere from New Zealand to Australia to
Canada to Britain. How much interest is there on the
ground in Israel on any given day about those sort
of announcements.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, there definitely is interest, and you know, polls show
that Israelis are somewhat concerned about what this means in
terms of, you know, sort of the diplomatic front that's
turning against Israel. You know, even before this latest wave,
more than one hundred and forty countries had already recognized

(00:53):
Palestine and it didn't have any real effect on the ground.
So it's more of a symbolic issue, which is that
it shows a growing diplomatic isolation of Israel, and you
know that's having a certain that will eventually have an
economic effect, but it's really more at this point, it
seems to be more symbolic than anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
And you involve things like Eurovision and spain stance on Israel.
Is there a general concern that you are increasingly looking
like you're isolated?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yes, there definitely is a concern. You know, Israeli's, for example,
love to travel to Europe. Israel's really close to you
can get to Europe in four hours, three hours, So
I think there is a concern. And you know, polls
have consistently shown that the majority of the public wants
this war in Gaza to end, the release of the

(01:45):
hostages and Israeli withdrawal from at least most of Gaza,
and that the Prime Minister has kind of been out
along with his you know, hardline partners, that they have
more and more been the ones responsible for continuing the war.
The public wants the word.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
To end, which brings us to the next twenty four
hous ls. In the discussion with mister Trump and Washington,
what do we know of that and is it being
talked up or is this this deal potentially real?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I think this deal really inally real. I don't remember feeling,
you know, this kind of sense that if President Trump
decides that this is the deal, you know, there's not
a whole lot that Israel can do against it. And
the truth is I the main news program just finished
and you know, of course this was the main issue

(02:35):
on it, and one of the veteran commentators was saying
that from Israel's perspective, this is really a good deal.
It calls for all of the forty eight hostages, both
alive and dead, to be released within forty eight hours
for a gradual Israeli withdrawal from Gaza. Hamas has no
role in a future Gaza that will be done by

(02:56):
a sort of technocratic government. There will be eventually the
rebuild holding of Gaza. So the twenty one point plan
of President Trump actually does respond to a lot of
Israel's demands. At the same time, for example, Hamas said
that it's lost contact with two of the hostages. So
it's not clear if Hamas would be willing to deliver

(03:19):
on this plan, to agree to it. But I think
there really is a good chance. With President Trump, you know,
leaning hard on Israel, and with Katar leaning hard on Hamas.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Let's see how the next twenty four hours on Falls
Linda Appreciate Linda Gregslin, who's the CBS News correspondent in Jerusalem.
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