Full Show Podcast: 10 October 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
One can day, the Peace Deal Phase one could be
a go. ACC has got a massive fiscal hole. Paul
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and Murray Olds they poney up as well, please pasking
it is seven past six. I argued it at the
time because well several times over. Actually I argue because

(00:33):
I thought it was the right thing to do. But
Winston Peter's entered the Fontira brand sale debate yesterday. I
suspect because he thinks there are points to be scored,
not because he's wrong, of course, because he isn't. But
if you really cared about the sale that Vonterira has
been involved with for some period of time, you might
have stomped up a little bit earlier. In a way,
it's none of our business, neither mine nor Peter's. We
aren't farmers. We don't vote. The people who do vote.

(00:54):
Having a vote at the moment they're in the process
as we speak. My guess is it will romp home
in Each farmer on average will be several hundred thousand
dollars better off. But there is also always has been
the Fonterra's social license. Although the average punter doesn't own
them or have a say, they are so big that
their role in the New Zealand economy is outsized to
the point that what they do has national implications. I've

(01:15):
always argued that their argument for sale is wrong. It's
a rather convenient way to exit a business. They can
see some fiscal upside from. There's nothing, it never has
been any reason they can't and don't run their brand successfully.
They say it's not their core business, isn't it. Milk
turns into cheese and ice cream. Cheese and ice cream
are the brands they're selling. The French company, also in
the same business as Fonterra, doesn't seem to see it

(01:38):
that way either, Otherwise they wouldn't be stumping up over
four billion dollars for it. There is an agreement, and
this is Peter's main point, that the new owner uses
Fonterra products, but says Peter's how long for and when
the clock stops, which will our milk will be just
another in a long line of milk jukes. We found out,
of course yesterday the Dealer's ten years Peter's tosses in

(01:58):
a bit of conspiracy about frontira executives and bonuses. But
that's the politics of it all, really, But then that's
always been the Peter's way, hasn't. At its core, he
makes sense. He values New Zealand, he values New Zealand products,
so his view is consistent. But then there's always a
little conspiratorial spice in the headlines. And as we found out,
there is no bonus. If this sale was to be

(02:20):
debated properly, far less halted, he needed to be front
and center ages ago. So the Peter's foray good point,
just too late.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Within twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Right, well, it's all the news of the world in
ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's all about the peace deal. Do we have a deal?
We'll kind of all these things. That's never simple.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Within twenty four hours after the cabinet meeting takes place,
a ceasefire will then begin in Gaza. The idea will
then redeploy to the yellow line. The seventy two hour
time window will then began where all of our hostages
will be released.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
There is an element of hope at the UN to.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Turn this fired into real progress. We need more than
the silence of the guns. We need full, safe and
sustained access for humanitarian workers. The removal of red tape
and impediments and the rebuilding have shettered infrastructure.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
There's also an element of hope in Europe.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
It's the first phase.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Of course, we are all welcoming the release of hostages,
but we need to work for the plan after so.

Speaker 7 (03:23):
That it would be sustainable, and that's why we are also.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Here also for Dawn. He's been looking for spots to
Hanger's Nobel Middle.

Speaker 8 (03:32):
This is number eight.

Speaker 9 (03:32):
We set on seven wars or major conflicts by wars,
and this is number eight. And the one that I
thought would be maybe the quickest of all would be
Rush in Ukraine.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
And I think that's going to happen too.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
He might or may not get the price, of course
I don't think it will, but anyway, if that's what
it takes.

Speaker 10 (03:51):
We all should tell President Trump that he has a
good chance to really win the Noble Peace Price if
he maintains his focus and if you really mean invest political
capitals in order to really bring about genuine reconciliation.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Of course, this is only phase one. Part of the
next phase is the bit where kiirz Old make Tony
gets to run the place.

Speaker 11 (04:10):
I'm less interested, to be perfectly frank, in discussions about
personnel that I am in getting it implemented, and we
stand ready to play our part in implementing this.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, so I wonder why that would be finally win
for the farmers. The European Parliament has voted to band
using words like burger or steak when it comes to
talking about plant based petties. The vote passed three fifty
five to two forty seven. That's significant because it's a
major turnaround given it was the opposite five years ago
when they last looked at the issue. Next up the
EC the European Commission. Then all twenty seven countries need

(04:44):
to take it off and thats why Europe is the
way Europe is, and that is news of the world
in a very efficient ninety Now, the Senate has I
think voted the seventh time. I'm counting we're up to
the seventh time. This is the shutdown in the United
States of America nothing, So it goes into the weekend.
So people have been laid off, the money's not flowing.

(05:06):
The troubles continue to mount. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
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If you're not up on the latest social media cluster,
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(05:41):
from Shore and Partners Andrew Kella Hurt, Good morning, very
good morning, mine. I see a number here that looks
almost as though we're spending.

Speaker 12 (05:49):
Oh gosh, it's getting close. It's getting close. So we've
got more data on spending. Because this is the sort
of crux, this is the thrust of the arbianss conundrum.
Isn't it needs to create the condition where excess caution
doesn't derail any nascent recovery without it all getting too frothy,
and spending is key. So over the next few months,
we're going to pay close attention to indicators giving us

(06:11):
insights into what's happening with spending.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Now.

Speaker 12 (06:13):
Earlier this week we had that paymarked data, and in
this light A and said Yesday released their details around
card spending in their ecosystem. So yes headline number spending
up three point four percent of September from a year ago.
And here's the good news. This is their comment. More
positive trends are emerging in card spending.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
You like that.

Speaker 12 (06:34):
You've got to factor inflation here, they Mike. And when
you do that, the results aren't earth shattering. But we've
also got I saw a new word yesterday, Mike. We
have now got glimmers. We've had green shoots. I'm favoring flickers.
Now we've got glimmers. We are going to have a
corner coopia of adjectives when this when this recovery finally
gets going. Now breaking down the sectors, Durables up five

(06:57):
point eight percent, that's pretty good. Consumables up three point
nine percent. But remember my food price inflation is running
around five percent, so that's probably still not keeping post
with inflation. Apparel still the laggard, up two point nine percent.
Hospit the same. Lower petrol prices are pulled down. Spending
in motor vehicles and fuel A and S do normalize
the numbers for inflation, so we can see real growth,

(07:19):
and it's flatlining, and it's actually really been in a
gentle downward trend since twenty twenty one. But this really
is a treasure trove of data. Mic And here's a
few points of interest, because I love going through the
starter and seeing all these little nuggets. We aren't spending
money on booze anymore. Sales kept falling year on year.
Bakeries are enjoying a new renaissance. Who would have thought

(07:42):
pet shops we con continue to enjoy really robust growth.
We're spending money on the little fur balls. Sales up
eighteen point one percent. Second Hand stores also stand out,
so households are watching the pennies there. Vape spending is falling,
that's good to see. Hospital is recovering, but food prices
is lifting, maybe playing a role there in higher spending. Mike,

(08:04):
nobody nobody is buying tents.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Why would you?

Speaker 12 (08:09):
The tense store spending is down thirty one and a
half percent or fireplaces. Fireplace stores are also doing it tough.
And here's one to ponder. Over the weekend. Live theater
and ticket agencies sales up forty three point one percent year.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
On what is going on experiential?

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Well, must be, mustn't it.

Speaker 12 (08:28):
But isn't there a little bit of hope there? Because
if people are spending money on live theater, if prepared
to spend on that, they must be feeling a little
more confident.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, I've got numbers on the front of Delta araplanes too,
and they're still flying at the flash end of the plane.
We like to experience life post COVID, right the crown,
I mean, I mean that little bit more tax and
a little bit less spending. But we're still own money,
don't we.

Speaker 12 (08:48):
Yeah, we do, and and sort of you've got to
look at these they seem to They came out yesterday.
I came up with very little fanfair final CRWAN accounts
for the year end of June twenty twenty five. Look,
it has very much review mirror acknowledge that, but they're
important numbers. Nonetheless, this is the starting point for the
sovereign checkbook.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
For the year.

Speaker 12 (09:03):
The obigal X deficit nine point three billion. Yeah, tax
collected on the revenue side, the individual tax take was
up slightly, corporate taxes up three and a half percent,
but there was a lot of portfolio investment entity income
in there, so that means that investments are going really well.
Tax on dividend speaks to profitability of companies fell quite sharply.
I'm a little bit suspicious of this number. I think

(09:24):
there might be something going on with the change in
tax rates and dividend payments being pulled into previous years.
So I'm not going to put too much weight on that.
Uti I understand it a bit more. The obigail X
Mike excludes ACC.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
What's SEC doing exactly?

Speaker 12 (09:37):
Yes, So look it was slightly been that.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
You've still got it.

Speaker 12 (09:40):
You've still got a fund ACC. Even if you've taken
out of number, you've got a funder.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
It's the dodgiest accounting practice I've ever seen.

Speaker 12 (09:47):
Yeah, it's not good. Net call Crown debt's gone up
six point seven billion, one hundred and eighty two point billion.
That was low than expect It's still rising. Here did
back of the envelope number for you this morning, Mike?
If you had to finance that one hundred and eighty
two point two billion dollars to two day at the current
ten year bond rate, your interests built seven and a
half billion dollars a year. Look, growth in total revenue

(10:08):
was slightly lower than growth and total expenses. There's you
can under there's your.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Problem, right.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
What are the numbers?

Speaker 12 (10:15):
Well, actually some good, some bad. The Dow Jones is
actually down to two hundred and sixty eight points, that's
point five eight percent forty six thousand, three hundred and
thirty three. The S and P five hundred down just
under half a percent sixty seven two one, and the
Nasdaq also down about half a percent twenty two thousand,
nine hundred and twenty four. As I look at it,
the FORTS one hundred lost point four percent nine to

(10:37):
five h nine yesterday, but the nick A continues to
go higher, up eight hundred and forty five points one
point seven seven percent forty eight thousand, five hundred and
eighty Shanghai Composite they're back at work, up one point
three percent fifty one points three nine three four. The
Aussies yesterday gained a quarter percent eight nine six nine
the close, and we had a small game. Two points

(10:59):
thirteen thousand, five hundred and seventy on the inns of
X fifty. Now, Mike, here we go, key wee dollar.
It fell, then it's recovered. It's gone down again point
five seven four to zero against the US, So we
are languishing against the ossie point eight seven sixty seven
point four nine six to eight euro point four to

(11:19):
three to one nine against the pound eighty seven point
eight three against the Japanese Yen. Gold has come back
down under four thousand dollars nowns three nine sixty nine.
But maybe here's a little bit of positive news. Sixty
five dollars and twenty two cents for brank crude.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I'll take it to have a great weekend, see you
next week. Andrew Keller from Shore and Partners pasking even
Ferrari's having a tough time of it. They got they
got massacred share wise. Overnight they unveiled their technology for
their maiden electric car vehicle and people went ably impressed
by that. The shares were down over sixteen percent. This
was their capital market today. Their growth forecast falls quote

(11:56):
below our lower growth case. They're targeting by twenty thirty
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(14:41):
She looked dangerously like Grant Robinson when she announced that. So,
so what she's done if you're not aware of this,
and we'll talk about ACC because their numbers are up
and there on the whole to the tune of billions.
So she decided that when you add up all the
bits and pieces of the government, the money and the
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(15:04):
little better than they really are. Anyway, with more where
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Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, Americas still shut down? What they've got a peace
deal of sorts Phase one? Anyway, Richard Arnold the details.
Shortly twenty three to seven, back home for landlords. We
got some clarity around meth testing. The government to set
some new limits. Fifteen micrograms or more for one hundred
square meters will be flagged. If levels hit thirty micrograms.
The tenants can give two days notice to leave, and
the landlords have seven days to end the tendency if
they want so. Tony Mitchell is the Residential Property Managers

(15:43):
Association chair and as well as Tony Morning Morning Mike.
How big a deal is this?

Speaker 7 (15:49):
Well, I guess it's good and bad. It's great that
we've got clarity and there's levels set where I guess
termination can be achieved and also clean down levels. But
it is out of step with with what we're seene
and the rest of the world. And look, I don't
know of any landlords who really want meth us in
their properties, and last time I checked, it's still an

(16:10):
illegal a class drug.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Indeed, does this land more towards the landlord or more
towards the tenant?

Speaker 7 (16:20):
It gives well, I guess the landlord. Once you've got
a meth problem. It then lessens the burden of cleanup
and also lessens the insurance costs as well, so it
favors I guess that the landlord once you've actually got
a measurement, But that's not really for me.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
The issue.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
The issue is that we shouldn't be accepting that we
have meth levels in properties and we now don't have
the ability to enforce a zero tolerance policy within a
tendancy agreement because a tenant can use up to thirty
micrograms is mentioned, so.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
If it comes in at say fourteen, you can go, yeah,
so it's fourteen, So there's nothing that you can't touch me.
So there's something fundamentally wrong with that, doesn't there.

Speaker 7 (17:08):
Well yeah, I mean, but look, I guess good standards
would be, you know, you should be declared disclosing that
to any new tenant. And even if you and even
if you take it a tendency tribunal, Unfortunately, it's unlikely
that the tendency tribunal would enforce the determination. Now, look,
you still have ninety days no course, but that might

(17:29):
only be in as long as nationals in do or.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Do these things fall between stools, because when you talk
about the tendency tribunal, when you talk about the legality
of meth full stop and involving the police and the law,
when you're talking about the role of a landlord. They're
all sort of different things, aren't they.

Speaker 7 (17:46):
Yes, there are. There's quite a few different things at
play here. Look, I think for public housing it's actually
it's a clarity and it will allow a lot more
I guess flexibility or certainty around of public housing. But again,
no tenant in the private sector would want to rent

(18:07):
a house, or not many that I know of anyway,
would want to rent a house that's got a myth level.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, well I got you give us a read. Rents
it down? Renter's market, I take it at the moment, still.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
Yep, yep, So it is still I have seen various
uplifts but on certain weeks. But look, it's still a
renter's market.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
And Mum and dad investors, i'm told with the status
this week, are starting to get back into the market.
So that presumably means what pressure goes on rents.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
Well, you might have more properties on the market. I
don't think pressure will go on rents because of that.
But that the problem is is with this new regulation.
I mean, if you're a private investor, will you want
to actually put your money into a rental property where
there could be Mathews.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
It's a good point, Tony, have a good week. I
appreciate it very much. Tony Mitchell, who's the Residential Property
Managers Association, is watching a bit of Bathhist. It's a
funny thing Bathist this weekend because they've got a nine
hundred practices. Because there's only one race, and the race
doesn't start till late on Sunday, they sort of practice
all weekend, so they practice on Thursday, practice on Friday,
practice on Saturday. So the real juice doesn't start until
Saturday afternoon when they do the top ten shootout. But anyway,

(19:12):
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Speaker 16 (20:28):
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Speaker 2 (20:35):
With canamal morning, good wedding mine. We we excited.

Speaker 17 (20:39):
Many people are yes, we'll see what happens as this
play is on. But after two years of horror and
misery in the Middle East, there are new hopes with
the acceptance of phase one of this piece planned the
plane push by President Trump and its Cabinet session. A
short time ago, Trump revealed that next Monday or Tuesday.
That's Tuesday or Wednesday, your time is the deadline for
the return of the hostages. The twenty still alive, the

(21:00):
bodies of twenty eight Israelis who did not survive their captivity.

Speaker 8 (21:04):
Secured the release of all of the remaining hostages, and
they should be released on Monday or Tuesday. Getting them
is a complicated process. I'd rather not tell you what
they have to do together. There are places you don't
want to be.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (21:18):
Long suffering hostage families in Israel is celebrating, even as
some say they really won't be able to believe it
until it happens. Trump spoke by phone with some of
the family members and the White House released this recording. Well,
none of this has been simple. During the ceasefire talks
in Egypt, Israeli and mass delegates. We're not even in

(21:40):
the same room. The remaining hostages are believed to be
held by several splinter groups, so getting all of them
together will be challenging, as President Trump indicated. So Trump
says he is planning a trip to the region, working.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
On the timing, the exact time. We're going to go
to Egypt, where we'll have a signing, an addition signing.
We've already had a signing representing me, but we're going
to have an official signing.

Speaker 17 (22:05):
He also spoke of the losses, the terrible losses on
both sides.

Speaker 8 (22:10):
Seventh was terrible, but also from the Hammas standpoint, they
probably lost seventy thousand people. That's big retribution. That's big retribution.
But at some point that whole that whole thing has
to stop.

Speaker 17 (22:25):
Yeah, everybody with a sense of human decency fully agrees
with that. As for other elements, right wing members of
the Nittanno Cabinet are endorsing the hostage release, but they're
calling it a cease fire, not an end to the war.
But Trump was kei here. Last month, he voiced anger
over the Israeli air raid on cut Up on an
area where Hamas was discussing peace efforts, Trump demanded at Nettino,

(22:45):
who then called the cuties with an apology, which was
shown on video. He also told the Israeli leader he
was opening new talks with the Iranians, and Trump is saying,
now Aaron wants.

Speaker 8 (22:56):
To work on peace. Now they've informed us and acknowledge
that they are totally in favor of this deal. They
think it's a great thing. So we appreciate that, and
we'll work with Iran. As you know, we have major
sanctions on Iran and lots of other things. We would
like to see them be able to rebuild their country too,
but they can't have a newhere well.

Speaker 17 (23:16):
So Trump has been very proactive with all this, even
as he has been openly campaigning for Nobel Peace Prize,
which is due to announced in December. Some Trump allies
now are saying it should be renamed the Donald Trump Prize.
Others are simply suggesting this as a rare good moment
for the US of late. It is interesting that the
actions which often highlight US presidencies are the moments when

(23:37):
leaders split from their basic support groups, as with Nixon
to China. They'll bej on civil rights and now Trump
on the Middle East. Of course, we'll see how this
plays out. This initial deal addresses only a few points
of the wider piece plan, and the UN Chief Terrists
says more as needed and silencing the guns. But this
initial breakthrough is very very welcome.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Indeed, right out Wi's the Pelisides fire. Where are we at?

Speaker 17 (24:00):
This is stunning this news over the worst bush fire
in LA's history. The Palisades fire killed twelve people, saw
the destruction more than sixty eight hundred homes and other buildings.
Twenty nine year old Jonathan rinder Necked has been charged
with arson, say officials.

Speaker 18 (24:13):
The allegations in the affidavit are supported by digital evidence,
including the defendant's chat GPT prompt of a dystopian painting
showing in part a burning forest and a crowd fleeing
from it.

Speaker 17 (24:28):
Here this is weird, weird stuff. They alleged he was
obsessed with deadly fires. So I've convicted. He faces a
lengthy prison term. But the other issue is this. He
set the fire at a remote site, then the fire
crewis failed to properly put that out, kept burning for
six days deep underground, then when high winds swept up,
it led to this astonishing devastation. So who's to blame?
Fire officials say it is the person who initially set

(24:50):
the fire, not the brave firefighters. Still there will be
many many questions now about what went so very wrong.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Indeed, do you have a good week? And Richard will
catch up next week. Also that cabinet anything. By the way,
a number of interesting things were happening. Obviously the peace talk,
well the peace talks will the peace deal we're being discussed,
but domestic matters were dealt with two in Portland. He
is Christy.

Speaker 19 (25:12):
Portland went out and back on Tuesday and met with
the governor, met with the mayor, met with the chief
of Police and the superintendent of the Highway Patrol.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
They are all.

Speaker 19 (25:22):
Lying and disingenuous and dishonest people, because as soon as
you leave the room then they made the exact opposite response.
So we're looking at new facilities to purchase there in
Portland too, and we're going to double down.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
And I told them if they didn't.

Speaker 19 (25:39):
Meet our demands for safety and security on the streets
and work with us, then we were going to bring
in more federal law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
So she's not for turning Meantime, Jens and Pine I
thought might a very in video. Of course, he made
a very interesting point. If Trump's H one B visa
plane was in place, he never would have made it
to America, never would have had the one hundred thousand dollars.
His family came out, and what was interesting about his
family in the bit I didn't know is born in Taiwan,
moved to Thailand. He and his brother arrived in America

(26:09):
at the age of nine, but his parents only came
a couple of years later, ten away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
The make Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news dogs,
they'd be.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, Trump won't win the prize because coming out tomorrow.
Of course, in the last meeting was held last Monday,
so the committee don't go, oh, we better have a
late breaking meeting. That's not really how it works, and
you've got to actually have something substantive, although probably if
you remember Obama, you could argue that that's probably not
always the case. Anyways, five two joint favorite at the moment,
along with Saddan's emergency Response rooms. There are three hundred

(26:39):
and thirty eight candidates, of which two hundred and forty
four are individuals ninty four are organizations naveln The's widows
in there are good terrorists in there. Again, a lot
of un I mean, that's the problem with this whole thing.
It's a very un oriented Sharad icc and nominated Unra.
I mean, I wouldn't have thought Unra would even be nominated,
for goodness, given the troubles they've had this year. Hc

(27:00):
Imran Khan, fair enough, Elon Musk I mean surely, I mean,
I mean, who's honestly so we'll see what happens tomorrow.
And I always find that the ones I really like
are the ones earlier on the week. Your physics, your chemistry,
your medicine. These are people who have done just amazing things.

(27:24):
This guy this morning on literacy, I mean, no one
ever he has ever heard of the Literacy Award winner
and the piece the Peace Prize unfortunately tends to be
a okay, I think.

Speaker 20 (27:33):
It's a literature award, a literacy award. I don't think
he was teaching people how to read.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
It's a very good point, Glen late breaker for you
five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
And the ouse. It's the bizz with business fiber take
your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
There was a problem. I've only ever went to school.
That's what happens when you don't go to school, you
don't get the qualifications. Next thing, you're on job seek
or running a radio program. It's one of the other,
isn't it. More data that reminds us that flash travel
very much a thing. As I was alluding to Andrew earlier.
On Delta Airlines, they produced their numbers this morning. They're
the most profitable US airline. Their ticket revenue from the
premium cabins increased nine percent last year to ten point

(28:11):
one billion dollars. Meantime, the main cabt ticket revenue main
cabin ticket revenue has dropped four percent to sit over
at just ten point four So ten point one versus
ten point four. Here's where it really gets interesting. Forecasts
show no sign of premium travel demand slowing. For the
first time ever for the airline, premium travels going to

(28:32):
overtake economy travel sales. They expect that to last at
least two quarters. They recently added more premium cabins to
their latest fleet, and they've also delayed deliveries of their
new planes to reevaluate the designs to include more premium setting.
I've been telling you this for the last couple of years.
Post COVID. The demand to sit at the front of
the plane. It used to be five ten years ago.
Everyone who's going to have all to be at the

(28:53):
front of the plane, I know what, a weird person
at the front of the plane used to be a
snobbish thing, whereas nowadays there's a lot of regular, ordinary,
everyday people have decided, and this is this experiential thing
that's going on post COVID, that people, the people who
got the money want to spend it on memories, you know,
buying stuff no longer counts as a thing. There was
a guy Live Nation. The only reason I raise Live

(29:14):
Nation is because Live Nation are hooked up with veeps.
Veeps are hooked up with the Madden brothers. The Madden
Brothers are coming on the program next week. And the
head of Live Nation the other day said concert tickets
are ridiculously cheap. So even when you're spending three or
four hundred dollars a concert ticket and you think being bled,
it's not. He says, they put on a super Bowl

(29:35):
every day. She's got Beyonce, for example. He's got twenty
eight articulated trucks. It's a super Bowl every day. Is
prepared to spend two thousand dollars for the super Bowl.
Why you're moaning about spending three or four hundred dollars
for concert ticket? He said, So it's all experiential these days.
We want memories and we are prepared to pay money
for it, and that includes sitting at the front of
the plane. Right back to this piece. Deal are real?

(29:56):
Does it last?

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Is it a thing?

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Then we look at consultants spending in the government due
to the collins with us on this as well. The
news news.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
Is next credible, compelling.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
The breakfast show you can't best. It's the mic Hosking
Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate finding the buyers.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Others can't use togs dead.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
B seven past sevens one of the peace deal in
the Middle East looks on israel ek scept to ratify today,
hostage is dad or alive? Will be returned? Prisoners released?
Eight to flow the American seam bullish.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Suffice it to say design exaggeration, that none of it
wouldn't impossible without the President of the United States being involved.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Question, then, of course, is what happens next. Tigi Matter,
as journalist executive director of Plus nine seventy two magazine
in Israel, is back with us morning. How would you
describe the level of hope and expectation.

Speaker 21 (30:47):
It's unfathomable. It's the first time we have had hope
in a very, very, very long time. And while we're
really expecting first of all, the end of the the
massacre in Gada and also the return of the hostages,
these are things that are pretty certain to happen, we're

(31:07):
also really hoping that this does continue as promised to
a prolonged cease fire and ideally then further to the
end of ongoing apartheid in siege.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Do you have enough clarity around the specifics or not?

Speaker 13 (31:22):
Well, we have some of the specifics for the coming
few days, So a limited retreat by the Israeli army
within Gada, cesition of hostilities of violent clashes and obitually airstrikes,
and then also the release of hostages and about two
hundred and fifty Pelsenian prisoners, the identity of whom it's

(31:45):
not been finalized yet.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
At no point have a mass seed is part of
the twenty point plan that Ye will lay down these
weapons and we're done being terrorists? Is that a problem?

Speaker 21 (31:55):
So again, this is only the first phase, and it
has been agreed to own agree on the first phase
and do this ceasefire and prisoner swap and hostage release
and after that.

Speaker 13 (32:08):
Continue with negotiations.

Speaker 21 (32:10):
So I think Nano is basically promising his base that
the war will continue, that he will eradicate come as.
I think it's pretty certain that that is not what
the Katari's and the Trump administration are after. Hopefully they
can continue pressing both sides to agree to the more

(32:30):
advanced stages of disagreement.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
How does it land domestically for Nitnya, who, given some
of the people he's gotten, this cabinet who won't be
ibly happy with this.

Speaker 13 (32:38):
So the question is how far it goes for the
first phase.

Speaker 21 (32:41):
You know they're making, you know, these faces, they're unhappy,
but they're like, you know, we won't top of your
government over this.

Speaker 13 (32:49):
I think if the war actually ends.

Speaker 21 (32:52):
For for good, then they will likely leave the government
and we will likely be seeing a new elections soon.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Hagi. What chance that this is iber there is peace
in the Middle East and you and I for the
rest of our lives. Will never talk about conflict in
your part of the world ever.

Speaker 21 (33:08):
Again, I would say almost none, unfortunately, just realistically speaking,
even if this agreement is completely successful in ending the
war and the genocide and Gada, then we will have
quiet around Gaza, but we will be basically where we started,

(33:28):
where we were in October sixth of twenty twenty three,
where as well continues it's aparthead regime in the West
Bank and continues to seeze over Gaza, and without any
substantial changes of that reality, without justice and liberation for
Palestinians across the land, we will just be back where
we started, and there will be renewed violence in the future.

(33:50):
And this regime is violent in its nature. So if
that doesn't end, if the core problem doesn't end, we'll
be back to the same place where we started.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
All right, Hoge, you appreciate it. Hugging out who's out
of Israel for us this morning eleven past seven past.
They can't acc if he didn't already know has major
money issues. Their annual report out shows a one point
five billion dollar deficit for the year. That adds to
the last year seven point two billion dollar hole. So
we're now added all up thirteen point eight billion in
the red. Warren Foster is an ACC lawyer and also researcher.
Back with us, Warren morning, Good morning. What's the problem.

(34:20):
Can you make it simple? Is it the money they
earn versus the money they spend? I mean, can they
earn more or spend less or what?

Speaker 14 (34:28):
Well, it actually is pretty simple. We need to look
at it over a generation. We need to collect money
to pay for things. We need to be careful about
how we pay for things and what we actually get
with them under we spend. And then we need to
stop changing how we count how much money we need.
So of the deficit. This year, ACC actually did really
well with its return on investments. It got four point

(34:49):
five billion return on investment, but it changed the way
it counted how much money it says it needs and
says we need five point eight billion more than we
needed last year. So that's how they got to this
sort of the middle. But we really need to have
a good look at ACC and think is it actually
doing what we wanted to do and the way we
wanted to do it, because you know, it's pretty concerning

(35:09):
some of the stuff that's happening.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Indeed, are they lax, Well, they're either lax or they're bad.

Speaker 14 (35:18):
But we need to remember that we didn't get in
this position by bad luck. We made a number of
decisions policy decisions along the way, and we stopped rehabilitating
people properly. In the old days, ACC would actually ring
up and talk to the claimant. They'd bring up and
talk to the employer that helped you get back to work.
That stuff has all fallen by the wayside of the

(35:40):
emails sent backwards and forwards, and we're not actually getting
people back to work. The spinners that ACC's helped eight
thousand long term claimants get back to work or independence,
and normally there's around three thousand, so it's five thousand more.
But of those five thousand people who've been on ACC
for more than a year, I'd be really surprised if

(36:01):
those people actually got back to work. The people we
speak to every day just get kicked off. And it's
the same thing we start seeing as that ACC is
not actually helping people rehabilitate. It takes forever to get
ACC to even make a decision on surgery. Some of
my clients are waiting three months or six months to
get a decision on whether they can actually get surgery

(36:21):
so they can get better and go back to work.
And that is the complete opposite of what ACC is
meant to be doing. And these costs just blow out
when someone's been off work for a year waiting for surgery. Exactly,
it's really hard to get in the back.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
I think we've all got in individual anecdotal circumstances in
which we've seen a system that doesn't work properly. Warre
appreciate it. Warrenforster, who's an ACC lawyer. Also researcher Mike
if there was ever any doubt about the political bias
of TV and said it was all on show last
night and the news no coverage whatsoever of the Harker
and the closing down of parliament. Jason, You're right, obviously.

(36:55):
More shortly thirteen past the.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
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Speaker 2 (37:03):
That'd be Jim and Katy after I for you, Judith
Colin shortly on the government's cutting back on contractors and
such like. Sixteen minutes past seven The Great Race this weekend,
of course, Bathhurst thousand k's one eighty one laps starts
Sunday just before lunchtime. Brady Costeki's your current champion. Paul
Radisich has been there many many times and as with
as Paul morning.

Speaker 22 (37:22):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I hate about eighteen Do you do eighteen times or thereabouts?

Speaker 22 (37:27):
Mate? I think I'll think twenty one times, and I
think competed at nineteen. A couple of excellency gone in
the way, So yeah, stretch over a long period of time.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
How much do you watch each year?

Speaker 22 (37:40):
You know something I start watching it and then I
move away and then I come back. So yeah, motorsport,
I can never move away from.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Always watch it.

Speaker 22 (37:48):
I always keep an eye on Baptist and you know
it's an interest, it will never go away.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Is it fair to suggest that, no matter how good
you are as a driver, a couple of things at play.
This is a unique race. Just because you're hot doesn't
mean you'll win.

Speaker 22 (38:04):
You know, I've been there, been the hot favorite, led
the race, done everything, never won it, so got close.
But yeah, it is. It's a grueling event. You know,
it's a marathon, and there's so many things that happened.
I mean yesterday the weather come and the same thing
will happen someday you put money on it's going to
rain at some point, so you just don't know what's

(38:26):
going to throw at you. You know you've got to
You're going to rely on the other driver. You've got
to make sure that the team preparation is right, and
you know, at the end of the day, you can
do all that and it just comes down to luck.
It really is.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
What about the co driver? They ask a tremendous See
I think of something like wind Cup hasn't driven a
lot lately, is it? You expect a lot? And then
you've got the younger guys who are getting the big break.
You expect a tremendous amount of a co driver, don't you.

Speaker 22 (38:50):
Well you have well, yeah you have to. But you
know the co driver get and do the early part.
I mean, it's all about trying to train your brain
for that last hour of the race and to get
the car, keep the car going for an hour, which
I was never good at. But you know, you've got
to try and keep everything going. So when the fast
driver the main driver, and nothing to do with just

(39:11):
because they drive the cars all the time, the main
driver gets in and just gives it everything it's got
and that's that's the race.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
And unlike any I mean, I know we're in the
endurance part of the season, but unlike any other race,
the expectations on the car are profound, aren't they. I mean,
the car's got to hold together and there's got to
be an element of luck in that.

Speaker 22 (39:32):
Look, there's a huge amount of that because you replace
that ten dollar apart that perhaps you shouldn't have replaced
and it fails. You know, you're put in so much.
You just got to go into the race. It's like
you're driving. You just got to throw everything at it
and if you crash, you crash. But you gave it
a hell of a good try. And it's the same

(39:52):
with the car. The preparation. Everybody replaces, you know, the
engine and the gearbox and brakes, and it just goes on.
By the time the car starts race on Sundays, it's
probably been changed twice with all new components and that
you know, yeah, there's a lot of lack in it.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
It's absolutely fantastic. You enjoy it. I'll enjoy it and
us to talk to you. Paul Radisi chir for m
Quee Supercar Drivers. Of course we'll come back and we'll
come back and mark the week. And Ryan Wood, by
the way, is one of the hot favorites, and of
course Matt Payin, both of whom have been on the program.
But Matt Paine, you'd done have to look at this
weekend as well.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Seven The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by News Talk Zippy.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Mike is Greg Murphy racing. Now not as far as
I know this yeary is there, but I was at
last year of the year before I can't remember. Speaking
of car racing, We've got something very exciting this morning.
About ten to wait, I'm going to ring the winner
of our big competition with Visa. So the tickets and
the business class tickets, the accommodation, the premium hospitality, the
track experience, the two thousand dollars, all that is going
to be handed out this morning to one of the

(40:56):
people are in the drawer. So we'll make that phone
call just before eight o'clock. So we look forward to
that seven twenty three meantime time to make the week.
Of course, little piece of news and current events that
the Nobel Prize committee couldn't work out whether it was
science or magic. Attention seekers one. What a dreadful week
as we gave far too much energy to narcissists who
masquerade as people with causes both at sea and on land.

(41:18):
Are the Reluctant Traveler nine certainly the best TV of
the week, possibly the year in fact. Eugene Levy and
Prince William and a big budget for cameras. If you
haven't seen it, do it? Uplifting at outstanding no Lean
two still nothing? How badly handled? Can a badly handled

(41:39):
scandal be handled? Adrian and his restraint of trade two? Ironically,
Adrian isn't really a bad guy in this particular bit
of an increasingly gargantuine scandal. Are the ComCom six No
needs to inquire into airports apparently, but they did issue
warnings to marlbra Bricklayers. It's not every week you get
to say that the ero's attendance dart Are seven make

(42:00):
every bit of good news we can find at the moment.
Let's hope it's a trend. The government job see could
change his six an important message that life on welfare
has no future. Shame that somebody who tried so hard
to find excuses for that. Ronaldo seven, I mean the
first football billionaire. I mean, good honorm I hope he's
happy playing third tier soccer, even if he is loaded.
Lebron three a billionaire as well. But it clearly doesn't

(42:24):
stop you making a dick of yourself. I mean his
reputation really worth a cognac ad. Christian seven as in
Hawksby got there at last twenty five next month, please
and I'll give some money to you going away you
get Christians Winston seven, in between cleaning up the glass
and his dog. Was that a bigger window than the
first one? I think it was a even bigger window

(42:44):
Glassner's dog. His pacific reset speech was a reminder of
what are considered insensible foreign ministry actually is Chloe one
the party under her leadership think about it from a
bigger picture. The party under her leadership really has become fascical.
I mean a talent sign was a national part It
might make sense. Hipkins three telling us how appalling it was.

(43:04):
Winston's house got smashed, but then he didn't vote for
the new protest law. H Y P O c R
I T. E. Reese Walsh nine.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
When you have a day, you have a day. And
his whole day was a highlight reel ratings six. The
NRL beat the AFL, now that's rare, but Women's League
beat the All blacks. Numbers don't lie. And that's the week.
Coffees on the website and a new feature. By the way,
if you send us one hundred dollars, we'll send you
three of these and a new driver's license. Bosking, Mike,

(43:42):
Why are the hell the media is so negative about
a peace deal? All we hear is how long will
it last? Is it real? How about a narrative that
actually celebrates that something has actually happened, and that Trump
got both these guys to act. You have already dismissed
the plan before anything has happened, Nick, I don't know
how old you are, but those of us who have
seen these peace plans many many, many, many many many
times before. I remember Manuck and Bagen and a hood

(44:05):
of Barak and Jimmy Carter and Camp David and signing
sessions and pens and pieces of paper and celebration left
right and center. It always ends in tears because all
that's happening at the moment. I mean, it's great for
the hostage is fantastic, or those who are still alive,
So that part's good. But all that happens in these
things is by and large they are deals that are

(44:27):
brought about because of sheer exhaustion and desperation to momentarily
pause the ongoing and never ending hate. So if I'm wrong,
happy to say I'm wrong and come back to me
in five years and there's still no fighting, and still
nothing's gone wrong, and there's still no incursions, and there's
some sort of miraculous change of a system that has

(44:48):
broken down. Really, if you read history hundreds of years
ago and isn't changing now, then you know, come back
to me. But in the meantime, let's just see how
long it wakes Muke if there was ever any doubt
about the bias yet now, I mean, explain this to me.
Political editor. Last night on TVNZ's News shows a piece
of any speech, nothing wrong with that, the use of

(45:08):
the day. Fair enough. The Parliament shortly afterwards was closed
down yet again because they broke the agreed rules. The
Speaker stood up and closed down the parliament again and
that was not to be seen on the Nation's News.
Explain to me how they can justify that way and
tell me, given you can't but that's not straight up

(45:31):
and down bias. Judith Collins next.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic Hosking
breakfast with Vita, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News togs
had been.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Four minutes for mate. So on to day we got
timikated by the way after the colt near Friday, on
a day we got figure showing we're still borrowing money
to keep the light song. We are at least cutting
back on contractors and consultants the government. They saved nine
hundred and fifteen million dollars over the last two years.
It's one hundred million dollar target. Total workforce is also
down five percent to sixty two six hundred and fifty

(46:05):
four FTEs full time equivalents, with a six point five
percent increase in the front line appointments now due to
Collins is in chargeable of this as the Public Services
Minister and is with us.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
Good morning, oh, good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
How much of this? All these savings are low hanging
fruit and it was easy to do well.

Speaker 23 (46:23):
I think there were quite obviously that's the obvious one
to go after first, and there were quite a few
jobs that were vacant that agencies immediately got rid of
some because they realized they were coping without them, So
that is true. I mean at the same time, though,

(46:43):
we've got this increase in the frontline stuff, which would
be the people you're dealing directly with the public, the
six point nine percent, so that's actually quite quite a
good increase at the same time dropping the back office.
So I think it's isn't the flash and burn that
the Public Service Association has put out a wildly hysterical

(47:06):
press relation yesterday saying that there's a flash and burn
and things like that, and I was celebrating job losses.
Now this is actually your money, my money, New Zealander's
money being better spent. And I think that's exactly where
it needs to be. And we need to actually continue
to keep a very close eye on this and make
sure we get rid of all the nonsense stuff that's

(47:26):
been going on over the years.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
And when it comes to the nonsense stuff, is it possible, though,
that there are fivetoms within departments that could be doing
business and spending money that the minister may or may
not know about.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (47:38):
Absolutely, And I think it's very important that every minister,
every chief executive is being asked to look at every
job basically that they're worried about or that they're not
worried about, and asked, is this our call business? Is
it something that we have to do. At the same token,
I'd say we've been an extreme busy government. It's quite

(48:01):
transformational in some ways some of the work that's been
going on, and therefore that does take work, but it's
pretty amazing when you look at some of the costs
I mean that have been spent over the years, and
it's all borrowed money these days, so we've got to
be really careful.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yes, we do the roche business of bringing departments within departments.
Is that going to provide more savings over the next
twelve months or so, Well.

Speaker 23 (48:29):
We'll see. I mean, I think we're working on the
basis that we're looking closely at bringing in this sort
of community and housing transport one together. Whether or not
we actually fully go through with that, it's another matter
because we've still got to go through all the processes
and work out that's actually going to save money. I
think we all remember that Envy was put together and

(48:52):
that was going to all work together in many places.
That worked, except for the fact that the numbers of
staff went from about three and a half thousand when
we left office in twenty seventeen to well over six
thousand six years later. So you've just got to be
a bit careful that you don't end up with big
empires and nobody actually really focused on the first job,

(49:15):
which is looking out for the taxpayer and doing the
job exactly.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
By the way yesterday's performance in the House and the
closing of proceedings, is that going to end up potentially
in front of the Privileges Committee or not.

Speaker 23 (49:27):
Well, you know, I'm the chair of the Privileges Committee,
so that gives me my eighth portfolio to do. There'll
be up to the Speaker. I look, I heard some
accounts of it last night, and we're come to Parliament
to do a job and we all have to follow

(49:47):
the rules, so you know me, I know you follow
the rules. But I'll deal with it if it comes
and the committee will the usual way.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Okay, I appreciate it and have a good weekend. Judith
column twosay, well, the chair of the Privileges Committee but
also the Minister of the Public Service. It is ninety
minutes away from seven Paskar's. It's nineteen minutes away from eight.
I've got so much in front of me. I just
don't even though where to start. Just let me do
the thing while I'm still in the Parliament. That bloke Forbes,
the weird bloke Forbes, who was in the Prime Minister's
office once work for Upston, started recording things and taking

(50:20):
photographs and all that sort of stuff. And then they
discovered that and they had an investigation that wasn't June
us in order to deep dive quote unquote deep dive
in June. They finally got to the report yesterday the
Department of Internal Affairs, the process and procedures were sound,
but could be quote unquote strengthened, which is basically their
way of saying, the guy was a weirdo, the system works. Okay,

(50:41):
he's gone, and that was the end of that. Mike,
earlier on the show, you said the Gaza ceasefire would
not last using your theory, Japan will be bombing pil
Harbor next week. Ellen wrong, because the differentiation is that
a world war is not a regionalized war, and the
world war is not often dedicated on sheer hate and

(51:01):
centuries old hate. Our world wars come and go normally
with individuals leading countries, whereas the central issue in the
Middle East is age old hate, which you don't eradicate
as people come and people go. So there's a I
would have thought, feel the obvious and larger difference which
brings us nicely to the does it to the local

(51:22):
body elections? What an embarrassment? What a joke of an
exercise this is proving to be. We've got a couple
of days left. I'm not expecting a massive flood, and
let me give you some numbers in just a couple
of moments. And even if you have voted, I want
to set some new rules for the next three years
when it comes to the coverage of and discussion of

(51:43):
local body politics. More shortly eighteen two, the.

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It'd be.

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I am doing so well? Did I just win?

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Bit forward of you? I was going to ask you
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of the buyo plenty do you live in and love?
But to answer your question, yes you did.

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Oh my goodness, Oh thank you so much. Oh my goodness.

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That's so nice for you to say. There's absolutely no
need to suck up to me in any way, shape
or form, because you're already will now for you. Let
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(53:23):
be quite something. Actually, a track experience for two is
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Speaker 17 (53:30):
Oh?

Speaker 24 (53:31):
Absolutely, thank you so much, Mike. I'm I'm absolutely true
to say, it's so awesome talking to you. You I
am your biggest fan ever.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Oh, you're so nice to say. Who I mean? Obviously
you want to take me by judging by your comments,
But so let's say it's not me, who would you
like to take?

Speaker 5 (53:48):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (53:49):
Well I actually asked my family, and my husband shouted
out and said, that's not even a question.

Speaker 24 (53:53):
I'm going with you. So yeah, it's going to be
my husband.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Oh that's so. It's well, you've got plenty of planning,
you're available, you've got a passport and all those sort
of things.

Speaker 24 (54:00):
Yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Good on you.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
All right.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Well, all we ever ask is that when you go,
you take a photo will two and you know, send
them to us and you know, tell us how it
win and all that sort of stuff. But that's March
next year. For now, you can go celebrate. You can
go tell your family if they haven't already heard it
on the radio. And the warmest, warmest congratulations to you.

Speaker 24 (54:19):
Oh, thank you so much to News Talk ZIDB, and
thank you so much for VIZ. I'm gonna absolutely enjoy it,
so thank you so much, Mike. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Great pleasure, lovely to talk to you. Actually, I was
going to where in the baby you live. I live
in Papamoa, all beautiful, and you've got some plan for
the week You're watching Bathurst over the weekend. Are you
a Bathurst fan?

Speaker 5 (54:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (54:38):
I was worrying about that question because I actually haven't
really watched that, but I am going to watch it.
I'm going to be a betterist span by the time
I get to it.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
I meant to love it.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Good because I'm going to I'm going to ring you
on Monday and ask you four different questions about Bathurst
and unless you get them all right, you can't have
the price. Nice to talk to you, caur have a
lovely weekend.

Speaker 24 (54:58):
Thank you so much, Mike.

Speaker 23 (54:59):
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(55:23):
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Speaker 2 (55:30):
What a lovely, sound and grateful recipient. Prize winner, Mike,
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You've got to let us know how it went, perfect winner, Mike,
What a lovely winner for the f one comp What
a fabulous winner. Couldn't agree more? You want a good winner.
Nothing worse on radio than a miserable winner. Are you

(55:52):
you've been? Have you been to the motor races before?

Speaker 13 (55:54):
Now?

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Are you? But we got a good one today, by
the way, How good? How good? Having talked about Tory
Farna yesterday. How good was it to learn that her
official portrait was a complete and ut of cockup? So
they decided to save money, did the Wellington Council? And
this is everything wrong that's wrong with local body politics.
I'll come to my new rules in engaging in local

(56:16):
body politics shortly. But how good was it to learn
that they were looking to save some money? And they
decided they would go photography because photography is a cheaper
and easier way to do it. So they all the
gree We're going to go get a photo of it.
So it turned out to be oil on campus, of course,
So why wouldn't it be having agreed to have a
photograph take and why wouldn't it end up being oil
on canvas? The artist is Clark Roweth and that was

(56:40):
only seven thousand dollars, which to be frank, Can I
just let you in on a little secret. Katie and
I went and bought a piece of art last week
and I won't tell you what it is or what
we paid, but it doesn't really matter, my point being
that seven thousand dollars for a bit of oil on
canvas is actually not bad. It's not the most expensive
thing you'll ever see. I mean, it's not a very

(57:00):
good painting, with no disrespect to Clark, but I certainly
would pay seven thousand dollars for it. But be that
it's not a photograph. So anyway, that's Wellington City Council
for you. Which then comes to, in fact, the little
piece of art we bought. We bought two pieces of art.
One was a little piece of art. And I was
standing in the shop and I was looking at the
little piece of art and I was saying that. The
bloke who was standing next to us, I said, isn't

(57:23):
that beautiful? And he goes, yes, it is, And I said,
it's a lovely little it's not pencil, but it's a
drawing of a couple walking into the distance with their
arms around each other. And Katie and I collect stuff
like that, little bits of art that represent love. And
I said, that's such a lovely little drawing. I said

(57:45):
who did that? And he gave me the name. I said,
I said, she's very clever. I said, she's fabulously clever.
He goes, well, she is, actually, I said what do
you know about her? And he goes, well, that's her
standing over there. And this woman was going red in
the face behind the counter of the art gallery because
it was her painting. And so at that point, of course,

(58:06):
fortunately I was going to buy it, because if I wasn't,
I would have to have bought it at that particular point,
because she would be sort of pulling out the paper
from under the counter, going, surely you're going to buy
it now that you've complimented me.

Speaker 20 (58:16):
So we did, and she then she went on to say, oh,
by the way, it's not about love, it's about death.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
No, fortunately, it's about love. Anyway, we had the hangman
round this week and he hung that up and it
looks fantastic in the corridor.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
And I found that hanging.

Speaker 22 (58:28):
Uh, the hangman.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
The hangman, he comes run. And here's the other thing
about my friend the handman. When I started telling stories
about Matt the Hangman, he was starting out his business,
and I used to say, we get a person around
to hang out pictures in our house, and everyone used
to laugh at me. But now his business is so successful.
One he employs lots of people, so it's a massive company.
And two all the art galleries use him. Said they said,

(58:51):
do you need some assistance in hanging your new artwork. No,
we've got our people. You go, who do you have?
I don't think you talked like that, but it was
sort of like that. We said we have the hangman
and they went, oh, yes, we use him too. Everyone
uses him.

Speaker 20 (59:05):
So just to be clear, he doesn't hang people, no
yah on death for or anything.

Speaker 13 (59:09):
No.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
No, it just hangs paintings. And it's a very successful business.

Speaker 13 (59:12):
Do you know what.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I was going to talk about local body politics, but
I am so bored, witless by it, and this is
my point. My point is this, The turnout is so shocking.
In autumn Auckland, twenty one percent, twenty one percent have
been bothered to turn So, in other words, eighty percent
of you can't be bothered turning out Wellington, the aforementioned

(59:34):
you're oil on canvassing, your useless mayor wasting yet more
money with all your problems, and yet seventy percent of
you cannot even be bothered turning out. So my new
rule is we're not talking about local body politics ever
again on this program. I'm a program that serves the
community and what you're interested in. And what these numbers

(59:54):
tell me is you don't care about local body politics.
You have no interest in the subject whatsoever, So this
will be the first and last time they are ever
mentioned on the Mike Hosking Breakfast News is next, and
then to mc katie.

Speaker 18 (01:00:07):
For you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Asking the questions others won't the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
the land Rover Defender embraced the impossible news togs dead be.

Speaker 12 (01:00:25):
Easy?

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
So what we dont here is an EP and it's
by Jason Raz Things are Looking Up. So it's extremely positive.
It's upbeat, it's feel good. It has optimistic themes delivered
with his signature vocal style. There are brass, there are organs,
that's scatting. So the themes of optimism are positive out looks,

(01:00:54):
celebrating life and finding goodness in the world. The standout
tracks and I didn't tell you about this, so I
hope you've picked one of the standout tracks. The standout
tracks are Things are Looking Up? Take the music and
you do you.

Speaker 20 (01:01:07):
Now I haven't any of those lined up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
So there's only six tracks on the album. And of
the three really good ones, pick.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Three of the other ones.

Speaker 20 (01:01:16):
Can you find this uplifting?

Speaker 15 (01:01:17):
That's one way.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Well, apparently they're supposed to all be uplifting anyway, the
the EP of mood Enhancement. The EP is ideal for
promoting a happy, go lucky feeling and offers a move boost.

Speaker 20 (01:01:31):
What's weird about it is that they don't seem to
be new songs as I was off other albums. He's
just sort of combined.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
All the certain easy breezy sort of thing. Yeah, okay,
there's only it's disappointing because there's only twenty three minutes
long and there are only six as we moved in
six tracks, so that's not even informant.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
Why that is?

Speaker 20 (01:01:49):
How that's an EP?

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
Otherwise, be an elper.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
I argue an EP s of the eight. It's about eight.
You feel bonus material right now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
It is a week in Review with two degrees bringing
smart business solutions to the table.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Katee Hawksby's with us along with Tim Wilson. Good morning
to both of you, Good.

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Morning, good morning, this morning. Oh my goodness, so.

Speaker 6 (01:02:12):
Much faith in the audience, because sometimes you read out
texts I are to just drop show so assuring that
you've got such cold listeners.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
Yeah, I reckon, you need to get you need to get.
I put a backing track behind that. Now that would
be uplifting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
That's exactly the Mike Hosking Happy Days album featuring featuring Kurra.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
Eight tracks on the show. Actually, she could.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Ring your slot on the track just Life from the
let's call it a slot Life from the Bay with Kurra.
I think that's a little bit of nice whiteboarding. Do
you know what I've got in front of me? Tim?

Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
What do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Well, I've got hang on, I'll see who wrote the
letter from Jin Jin wrote to me this week, and
she included in the envelope, I've got a twenty dollar
or is it twenty I've just got twenty poppy pounds
here for you from Popeyes. I've got another voucher of
twenty poppy pounds. I've got three twenty poppy pound vouchers.

(01:03:14):
I've got a voucher for a chicken sandwich, tiny buffalo chicken.
I've got several of those. And I've got a chicken
sandwich smoky barbecue chicken voucher several of those as well.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
So you're going along.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
No, I was going to offer them to you, Tim
as a winner on the My Hosking Breakfast if you
were as good as Coudra.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
Well, this is this is amazing?

Speaker 25 (01:03:32):
I always thought I always thought they just had drop
picks doing segments of this show, but actually this is
just this has made my day fantastic?

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
And would you like to thank the sponsor?

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
Oh, I'd love to think who is the person that
sent that in again? And Popeye's Chicken?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Yeah, that's that's not as good as coury Jen.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
I want to think Jen Jen Jan's awesome?

Speaker 25 (01:03:53):
And is this actually the my cosket So's I cannot
be actually the guy it is?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
And you're a winner. Congratulations.

Speaker 5 (01:04:05):
Ah ah, I just got to go and put my
head in a bucket of cold water.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Cut that up into a promo. We're good to go, Katie.
On on a scale of one to ten, ten as
healthy as I am, what number would you give Dolly's
video yesterday?

Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
Oh yeah, it's a good question. I see. I'm glad she's,
as she said, not dead. But I'm really glad she's
not dead. But I wasn't one hundred percent convinced she
looked that. Well, it's often with older people it's the voice,
you know. The thinness of the voice just sounded a
little bit not one hundred percent there, and just underneath
all of that makeup and fabulousness that is Dolly.

Speaker 13 (01:04:43):
I just thought she looked a little one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Does she do you reckon? She's on the glps?

Speaker 6 (01:04:51):
No, she's always been that size.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
She looked what's the GLP?

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
No, you're not a winner. It's not a contest term,
it's not ringing, it's not eight hundred ring and ask
dumb question time. She looked to me, to my eyes,
scaltal And she's never looked skeletal. She's always been very
small and petite, but she looked particularly thin and she
and you just think about having dealt with her over
the years a number of times. The production behind her

(01:05:17):
is has to be seen to be believed, and the
number of people who make her look the way she
looks is incredible. And if you look at the video,
she doesn't even look that good after all of that,
which I would have thought was was a not a
good sign.

Speaker 25 (01:05:34):
So hope you would hope when someone, when someone gets
to that point that you've got this huge production team,
that someone would be able to usher her aside and say,
you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
I was thinking, maybe maybe we don't need to do
this on this particular day. By the way, what was
the art we bought?

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
Katie?

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Who was the artist of the big picture?

Speaker 6 (01:05:52):
Neela Glass?

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
And no, that was the little picture.

Speaker 13 (01:05:55):
Oh sorry, the big picture.

Speaker 6 (01:05:56):
By the way, when you were saying it's charcoal pastel
and graphite.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I knew it was more than a pieceil charcoal pestel
in graphite. When you love your portrait done on that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
It's were you asking the artist of the other one
we bought?

Speaker 22 (01:06:10):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
You don't even know who we will.

Speaker 13 (01:06:12):
I can't remember the name. It doesn't matter why.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Well, it's just gonna. It's just interested, because people are interested,
that's all. But it seems an odd thing to do that.
You would go out and buy a picture of a
person you don't even know who it is.

Speaker 6 (01:06:25):
Yeah, but it's not a picture, it's just a it's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
How do you describe it?

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
S about how you describe that evocation. It's it's a
textural piece. It's not a picture.

Speaker 23 (01:06:36):
Say it's more sculptural.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
What was the word you use? Evocation? Yes, what's that?

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
So it's evoking something you know it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
It's an excellent devocation. But it's also ceramic and clay. No, okay,
so we'll work out what we like and we'll come
back with the answer just a couple of moments.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Talks a B News Talks at sixteen past eight, the
weekend Review with two degrees fighting for fair for Kiwi business.
Kate hawks me Tim Wilson with us. Do we have
any for other detail? Katie?

Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
No, but I do have a question for your audience,
now that I know that they're so cool and informed
and onto it. I'm pickling onions for the first time,
red onions, and I just want to know I've done
it with the apple side of vinegar.

Speaker 13 (01:07:28):
With the mother.

Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
Do you keep them on the bench or do you
put them in the fridge? If somebody can text you
the answer to that, Oh, we do.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
Why don't we do a question, Mike, what do you
think bench or fridge?

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Oh, there's no question. You keep them in the fridge.
You keep everything in the fridge.

Speaker 12 (01:07:44):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
But do you put them on the bench in between
or do you put them straight in the fridge? Is
that what you're asking, Kate, That's what I'm asking in
order to pick up them.

Speaker 6 (01:07:51):
So I've just chopped up the onions and put in
the vinegar, and I put the lid on the jart.
Do I now leave that on the bench? And for
how long or do I need to put it in
the fridge?

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Good question?

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
I think I understand it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
When I last talked to Allison Holst, the go to,
the go to was leave it there for half an
hour at room temperature and then carry on whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:08:12):
You literally just made that up.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
It sounded so it sounds sounded plausible, didn't it. Could
you pass your driver's license and yet to sit your
test today?

Speaker 19 (01:08:21):
Tom?

Speaker 9 (01:08:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
I reckon, I could I reckon? I wanted how much
I was interested in that? How much was the bribe?

Speaker 13 (01:08:28):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
What do we That's when I tried to raise in
a joking fashion, but for fear of getting myself in trouble,
because no one's got a sense of humor anymore. But
it would depend on what it was. If it was
five hundred, it's a scandal. If it was twenty five,
you'd go, what a dick, wouldn't you? One or the
other in some way? You know what I mean. It's
just like what ever you know? So I don't know.
I don't know what the bribe was, and I don't

(01:08:50):
even know that they're talking about it because it's so
damn embarrassing. But nevertheless, could you pass, Kadi?

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Absolutely not?

Speaker 6 (01:08:56):
And I'm no greater reminder of that than when you're
teaching your children to dry and driving with teenagers who
are new limited with licenses. Oh my gosh, Judge, Judge, judge,
they do not shut up about.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
All the rules and everything.

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
Oh really, yeah, they are so all over it and
there's so many new rules. I feel like, So no,
I definitely don't think I would pass.

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
Now see of us three Cadi Katie would might pass.

Speaker 6 (01:09:20):
He's actually a really good driver, albeit a little bit
aggressive with Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
I said I reset my test. Don't you were you
at seven sharp when I did that?

Speaker 22 (01:09:31):
Tim?

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
I said, we did a Yeah, we did a story
with I think I may have been Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Yeah, I failed, So we went out. But I failed
because the guy I didn't slip at enough money obviously
because he pinged me. Now get this, I'm in a
dead end street. I pulled over in a dead end
street and I parked. So he says, over, you know,
do your your back in parking? Do that find?

Speaker 13 (01:09:54):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Problem at all. Then he goes, now, turn around and
we'll head back out. So in turning around another words,
doing a U tun But the street was so small
I needed to do a three pointer. He pinged me
for not indicating as I left the park, and then
pinged me again for not indicating as I once I'd
pulled back from my three point to indicating to move
forward again. I said, mate, that's not all. We're in

(01:10:15):
a dead end street.

Speaker 5 (01:10:16):
There is no traffic, this is bolland there's no one
else around.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Yeah, I got, I got doing if no one can.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
See, the indicator is the indicator indicate.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Couldn't agree more, and so they had to edit my
anger out of the story in the end, so that
never actually made it aware.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
But oddly enough, oddly enough, your contract was not renewed enough.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
I ended up on the radio permanently and no longer
on seven sharp Now, Katie t Swizz as a review
of the album, your thoughts please.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
Well, my favorite of Tea Swiss's albums is Folklore, and
that'll be the benchmark for me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
But so it wasn't.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
But I'm I'm I'm sort of on her bandwagon. If
she it's all time and place. This is a time
of life for her, and I get it. I actually
quite liked more of the songs than I thought I would.
I liked Fate of Ophelia, Light eldest Daughter, Friendship ruined
or Ruined the Friendship. That's a good song, I think, actually,
I think that's your favorite on the album. That song,

(01:11:08):
Take it or leave it? Over the weekend when I
was playing NonStop, and then as usual, you went on
here Monday and waxed eloquently about it Swift.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
And I thought, oh my gosh, it's all nice. It's
just pretty much everything.

Speaker 25 (01:11:24):
I'll tell you what you guys. You guys are talking
about Taylor Swift. I've been getting down with the kids
meme raper. You guys heard of baby No Money, Baby
No Money, Baby No Money, one of the biggest meme
rappers in the world. His song La La La got
one billion streams off Spotify.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
So hang on, what's the name of the song again, La.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
La La La La, Baby No Money? And and the
way you're into that is a B A B an
n an O and a dollar.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Sign money no money, La La La La Money's see.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
You on the s He's even bigger than Young gravy,
I bet you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Yeah, but young gravy once, once you put out that
sophomore album, refuse to get that up reviews. Glenn's desperately
tapping in there like the boomerang is young.

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
Young mony, will have a bit of will have a
bit of.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Bang or gravy or whatever it is. Anyway, you guys,
just forget that melody here it goes.

Speaker 13 (01:12:21):
Is that it is?

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
If you have you got the non swear version.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
When I.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
Game, Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's the
time on a Friday morning.

Speaker 15 (01:12:37):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
And there were some people who didn't think that this
was a cool show. This shows as cool as it. Yeah,
the pickled onions bop to the pop off on the
pickled onions. Oh yeah, hang on his in your body
in vinegar which is a preservative. So no fridge until
you want it cold to serve. Just keep them in

(01:13:00):
the pantry or a cupboard.

Speaker 22 (01:13:02):
Brilliant.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
There we go, There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Problem so nice.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
That was chetch.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Sorry it's eight twenty two.

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Speaker 5 (01:14:06):
See here's the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Problem with having such a large audience. Text number one
keep the pickled onions in the fridge, no problem. Text
number two, Mike, put the pickled onions in a cupboard.
So what are you supposed to do? For goodness sake, Mike,
I'm not surprised as little engagement with local body elections
when council provide a pathetically small amount of information, Stop
being an excuse maker. That's your standard, that's your standard.
I couldn't be bothered getting off my bum The information

(01:14:26):
you want, if you really do want information, is out there.
Every single person can be searched. You can be so
informed on each an individual, any individual you may or
may not be wanting to vote for if you wanted to.

Speaker 20 (01:14:40):
What if you have all the information and you don't
like any of them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
If there should be a box conscientiousip protection So for
no counsel, Yeah exactly. At least you have participated in
the process. But given your view, Mike, don't give up
on local government. There are two intractable problems. People feel
utterly powerless, that's true. And the apperance of party politics
and pet projects devoid of common sense and government. Well,

(01:15:04):
you have the pitt That's why you bote, That's why
you look. I said I wouldn't mention it. Nina went
did it?

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Opinion edit informed under apologetic the mic asking breakfast with
Bailey's real estate finding the buyers others can't use togs
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Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Im very pleased to be able to read this week
the Foundation for Arable Research otherwise known as FAR. They've
launched a new grain mark certification in this country which
will help us as shoppers identify you your breads and
your oats and your milks and all that sort of
stuff that are made with locally grind wheat. So your barley,
your oats, you maze and we want to. I mean,
we spend a lot of time talking about dairy and
beef and lamb and stuff, but we don't talk a

(01:15:43):
lot of time about the old cereals. So about one
hundred thousand tons of milling wheat has made each year
or grown each y're mainly in places like Canterbury. Of
course three quarters of it, three quarters of the bread
salt was made from imported grain. So if you can
buy locally grind, why wouldn't you buy locally grown? And
providence is important. I think a lot of this increasingly
are interested in prominence and where something comes and shopping

(01:16:03):
locally and food miles and all that sort of stuff.
So well done to FAR and the Arable people for
that and let's hope it's a success story.

Speaker 16 (01:16:11):
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Speaker 15 (01:16:18):
By Murray Olds as well to tell you man, good morning, Michael,
pretty good, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Busy week, very busy week. I'll get to the big
international stuff in just a couple of moments, but we do,
as you will be well aware, have an ongoing conversation
in this country of all the New Zealanders who want
to leave and go live in Australia. And I but
I keep abreast of what's going on in Australia and
what I noted this week was that massive raid that
was on outside the childcare scene to where there was
a there was a killing about to happen that they prevented.

(01:16:43):
And then I read about the UFC fighter who was
shopped later another contract killing. A lot of contract killing
going on in Sydney, Murray.

Speaker 15 (01:16:51):
A lot of gang gang inter gang warfare as well.
Drugs at the center of just about all of it
as well. They're making drugs here, they're bringing drugs in
from overseas, and these contract killers are available. We've discussed
this before for as little as ten thousand dollars. I
don't know if you've got air tasker in New Zealand.

(01:17:12):
We've got air tasker here. I'll put a note up
on the internet and I've going to lawn to mow.
It'll take you half an hour. Give you fifty bucks,
and someone will come down and mow the lawn and
I'll give them fifty dollars. And the way they go,
this is the same for contract killing. Here on Tuesday afternoon,
there were three people with bella clavers on their faces,
with guns in the car. They had two vehicles. They

(01:17:34):
had cans of petrol to burn both cars, according to
the police, and they were heading for a childcare center.
This was a Vietnamese crime gang in town called the
Final Crime Family. You get this stuff from movies, but
this is real and police have They've been listening to
this all the traffic with these three alleged contract killers

(01:17:55):
for a couple of three weeks. They intercepted them on
the way to the childcare center twenty four hours later.
As you say, there's a you know, cage fighter was.

Speaker 13 (01:18:04):
He was.

Speaker 15 (01:18:06):
The target of an attempted hit in February. Now he
managed to get away from that not so lucky in
Riverston in northwest Sydney, and they shot him fourteen times.
You hear it on television with the closed circuit TV.
It sounds like a war zone. Bank bank bank Bank, Bank,
bank Bank. It's nuts and these people are getting killed
just about every week. And you know it's only a

(01:18:28):
matter of time, isn't it before some innocent I mean,
imagine turning over a child, it with loaded weapons and
shooting the joint up.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
I was watching, I was watching the picture of the
jokey thing. It was like it was like downtown New
York in the bad old days. I mean, is it
a Sydney thing?

Speaker 15 (01:18:44):
No, no, no, you know it's also down in Melbourne,
perhaps not at the same extent. There's a lot of
crime getting driven out of Victoria, we understand, and we
saw that at play earlier this year. A Vietnamese crime
gang down in Victoria ordered the execution of a Sydney woman,
a mother of two, because her husband was he was

(01:19:07):
hired as a drug cook and he was knocking off
some of the drugs, is the allegation. So they've turned
out of this woman's home. The husband's not there, he's
away cooking up met for this gang. They've dragged her
out of the house, hit the eight year old with
the baseball batt He'll never be the same. They're sending
him text messages. As they stripped this woman, put her
in the back of the car, they're sending him text messages.

(01:19:29):
Where the drugs, where's the money, where's the drugs? They
shoot it dead in the back of the car. This
is about fifteen minutes and then they set the car
on fire. I mean, it is really, really dreadful. It's horrible,
and it's happening far too frequently.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
I was very pleased with the court yesterday. The Palestinians
get I mean, what are they going to do protesting?
Why don't they just go to a park? I mean this,
instead of ruining everyone's weekend, just go to a park
protestingly you're blue in the face, and have your day out.

Speaker 15 (01:19:54):
That's where they're going. They are going now. Instead of
heading from Hyde Park in the center of town, center
of set and then heading down to the Harbor and
the Opera House, they've been ordered to stay away from there.
Police were very very concerned, Mike. As you well know,
the Opera House, there are three ways in and out.
You can come from Circular Key, you can come down
the Quarie Street from State Parliament, or you can get

(01:20:16):
to the Opera House via the Botanic Gardens and once
you're there there's no other way out. Well, Sunday afternoon
on a lovely sunny spring day, you're going to have
the Opera House is going to be pumping. You've got
that opera bar there, you've got people going to ticket
and events. No way known, said police. Can we guarantee
safety of people? Public safety will be at risk. So

(01:20:37):
they went to the top Court in New South Wales
and the court agreed. It's a recipe for disasters, said
the Chief the Chief Justice. So now they're turning around
going from Hyghe Park back towards the Central Railway station
and police will still have a very big presence down there,
there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Tell me about Elbow this meeting. I've just been watching
the President of Finland and the yellow chairs in the
White House with Trump. Is Elbow getting a yellow cheer meeting.

Speaker 15 (01:21:02):
I'm not sure the color of the furniture, but look,
for a long long time all the Murdoch press over
here had been howling albow you Gutner's wand to get
to the White House take your medicine. Like Zelensky and
like the President of South Africa, both had strips torn
off them by Trump. Albo has been very relaxed and

(01:21:23):
he's actually said this week he's had very warm discussions
with President Trump. He received quite a lovely letter from
the White House ahead of their meeting. It's in ten
days time. So look it's becoming more and more likely
from this end of the spectrum, looking at this meeting
upcoming there, he's going to have a decent a decent

(01:21:45):
time with Trump. Trump won't be the big bully. I mean,
it depends on which way he wakes up in the morning.
But Australia's got a lot to offer the United States.
And this is the point that Albaneze has been stressing.
I mean, apart from the geography, the geography is the
big single thing the Australian economy can fit inside California. Right.
So it's got nothing to do with how much money

(01:22:05):
we spent. We haven't got money to spend on gee
Wiz rockets and stuff. This ridiculous submarine deal. It's going
to bankrup the joint. But better off building drones and rockets.
In any event, he's going there now. Very very important
trading partner of course in the United States, and very
close ally. We sell stuff to China. We love all
that iron ore and agricultural products and the light. But

(01:22:27):
we are allied to Washington. And you know what, all
the people who are death riding Albanizio here, Elbow, go
and get your bums out on fire, all that stuff.
I mean, just idiots. You really want to have Australia trashed.
The over office just going to be Elbow. He's representing
everyone here exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Go well, have a good weekend else Australia. Tell you
what Australia does have, which I've mentioned briefly on the
program before, that the Americans is going to be deeply
interested in, is this business of rare earths. And just
today I don't know why they've done it, but the Chinese,
who control most of the rare earths on Earth, have
tightened up the market even more. And you need these

(01:23:07):
rare earths for everything from EV batteries to telephones and
technology and the whole thing, not to mention chips, and
so they've titaning yet again. If Trump can get resource
from somewhere else in this rare earth business. So the
trick is not just what's in the ground, because Australia's
got lots of that. The next trick is refining it
to the point of manufacture, and Australia apparently is really

(01:23:29):
close to that. So that's a monumental income stream potentially
for Australia. But and easy, and I would have thought
for Elbow when he's visiting the Donald in a couple
of days.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Time eight forty five, The High Asking Breakfast Fall Show
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Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Ab Roger Partridge wrote a good piece in The Herald
if you want to read it over the weekend. Most
New Zealander would struggle to explain what bank capital requirements are.
This is the RB and what you have to put
aside of what the trading banks have to put aside
by way sort of the rainy day idea. Adrian or
oh gosh, don't we miss him Adrian Or had the
idea that you needed to put squillions aside because you
just never know. And the trading banks would argue that

(01:24:10):
because they had to put so much aside, you were
paying you And I were paying more on the old
mortgages and stuff like that. So the government got involved
and said let's have a review of that. The border
doing that. Have done that? Roger argues, haven't done it
properly and they basically solved nothing. So have a look
at that over the weekend if you get time. The
other thing I was interested in, and it might be
my ignorance, but there was a claim yesterday. So the

(01:24:32):
government hasn't changed the law, but they will early next year.
And the law they're changing is the business of extending prescriptions.
So if you're on prescriptions, you have to go back
every three months. And I always thought that was you
go back every three months based on the idea that
they sort of periodically check you and go well is
it working for you? Have you grown another leg? Are

(01:24:53):
you turning green? Could the medicine be a problem? But
the claim is that unless when they change the rules,
they go from three months to twelve months, So in
other words, you'll just get a script for a year
or a series of scripts for a year, and that'll
be you and the community pharmacy. You're going to go, well,
we're going to go broke. So what was the three
months for was the three months for medical reasons, in
other words, to check that what you're doing to yourself

(01:25:15):
is wise and sensible, or was the three months for
administrative and income reasons for pharmacies to be able to
make some dough And while you're at it, of course
you'll be going back three months. You'll be paying the
doctor every time, wouldn't you. So is it a money
earning exercise so the doctors and the pharmacists could make
more money, or was it a medical exercise so that
they could check that you're on the right because it's

(01:25:38):
the admin then sooner they change it the better because
you're paying needlessly more than you have to. Ten away from.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
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they'd be take.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
A second to check that when you're giving you know
who you're giving information to, because very good advice. It's
good advice and something that could prevent you from becoming
a victim of a scam. These scam are a problem
feeling uncomfortable. You know, when someone asks you for a
bank or personal details, that's a red flag. So think
about that's a red flag. So don't be afraid to
say no to these people and don't worry about coming

(01:26:11):
across harsh. You just let them know you can call
them back on their publicly listed phone number. So if
they are who they say they are, that's all good.
And if not, well you've basically dodged a scam there.
So the reason I'm telling you this, this is cyber
Smart Week and they've gone and teamed up with ASB
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(01:26:31):
Always question when you're giving information too, and why before
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How you got to do it now? You really need
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So for more information that can help you stay safe online,
search ASB scam hub. That's ASB scam hub asking likewise,

(01:26:57):
Trump not use the seventeen trillion he's bagged about receiving
on the tariffs to pay down America's debt. Well, presumably,
I don't know if you've been facetious or not. The
age of the answer, obviously, because there isn't seventeen trillion
or anything like it. Have you seen the latest Cops
recruitment ad Mike about bringing Keywis back from oz to
join the police. It's pretty good. I haven't. I will
look it up over the weekend. I also note that

(01:27:18):
Denmark have an ounceday night that they're banning to move
against social media for children under fifteen as well stealing
quote unquote stealing our children's childhood. This was at the
opening of the Danish Parliament. The stat they gave they
didn't give any credibility to the stat but Fredericks and
Matti Frederickson, since sixty percent of boys aged between eleven
and nineteen don't physically see a single friend in their

(01:27:39):
free time over the course of a week, that amazing.
If it's true. I mean, they can't ban it. No
one's banning it. I mean Australia says the banning it
as of December. It won't be it doesn't work. We
know it doesn't work. They did a report and told
us it doesn't work, and there's no single answer to
the problem. So they're introducing a solution to a problem.
They can't fix, which is how politics works. Sadly five
minutes away from.

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Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Who's this.

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
On a silver day?

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Words, calm, Nagger, Wartars. Of course they're being inducted into
the New Zealand And musicpol of fame, and not a
moment too soon. They started mid eighties eighty six Debutold
in the Only Game in Town. That's probably their best album.
To be fair, there weren't many songs on that album
my recollection that we weren't brilliant anyway, Trip down Memory Lane,

(01:28:46):
New Zealand tonight and Mike Hosking with some fabulous Kiwi music.

Speaker 5 (01:28:50):
Here's the Waratarz.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
The young Mike Hosking had no idea how famulous the
Warritars would become when he gave that intro in nineteen
eighty eights.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
That's why you've been texting me. Did you see seven
Sharp last night? And obviously I didn't.

Speaker 20 (01:29:07):
I see you were still wearing those ostentatious.

Speaker 5 (01:29:09):
Any with their pictures.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Was it pictures?

Speaker 20 (01:29:17):
Yeah, we could see you in your stripey suit. You
were sitting there in a suit and tie and reading
the name of the band off a piece of paper.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
That's what I do, BLI everything comes off a piece
of paper. Twenty three year old me, charcoal pinstripe. I
still remember that. I reckon I could rock that today
and you'd still go, geez, that's cool. I reckon you
could or what a try hard on one of the
two one of the two yellow creamy tie. I remember
the tie too. Was never happy with the particular tie.
Slip back here your shocking hair style in those days.

(01:29:46):
That picture will be up on the Sosha off. For
God's sake, there we go. That was on seven sharp
last night apparently. So you can look at that, and
you can look at me, and.

Speaker 7 (01:29:58):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
There's no greater if you had been taking the pass
out of Mike Hosking. Is there really? I mean, that's
that's the national game, isn't it? These days? Back on Monday,
as always, you have a fabulous weekend. Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
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