Justin Marshall: Former Former All Black comments on attack coach Jason Holland stepping down

Attack coach Jason Holland will be stepping down after the northern tour, when his contract ends. 

This is the second high-profile exit under Scott Robertson, following Leon MacDonald's departure after just three test matches last year. 

Former All Black Justin Marshall told Mike Hosking that the departure was a personal decision, not something motivated by back-stage scandals. 

"Jason has his reasons for moving on, and those reasons could be the fact that he's not happy with the workload or he wants to move on to other things."

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Speaking of sports, what are we making of Jason Holland

(00:02):
stepping down from the All Blacks after the Northern to
a second high profile exit under the Robertson rain Leo
McDonald of course after three tests left and anyway, former
All Black Justin Marshall back with this morning to you
and a good.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Morning to you, Mike. Nice to be back chatting to.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
You and very nice of you to say so. Jason Holland,
is this a scandal or just a bloke who's moving on?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh? I think it's a bloke that's moving on. Like obviously,
in terms of continuity for the All Blacks, that's not great.
Like Jason looks after set piece attack and back attack,
and when you've got a team looking to evolve and
to get better, you want continuity so that the players
have got the same information and so that the voice
that they're hearing and the things that they want to

(00:41):
do and achieve, then they know what they are in for.
But when you change that personnel and then you have
to find somebody else, because that's an important part of
the game. It is disruptive, is the some of the media.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
You're trying to make this a raise of things raises
a problem. Everything's a problem around Raser. Is that true
or not?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
No, I don't feel that that's the case. Obviously, Jason
has his reasons for moving on, and those reasons could
be the fact that he's not happy with the workload
or he wants to move on to other things. I
certainly feel that what you need when you need a
good when you get a coaching group, you need good balance.
Look what happened to En Foster. At the end of
the day, he got rid of coaches, didn't he and
then he had a very successful Rugby World Cup campaign.

(01:20):
Now there's more to the All Blacks than Rugby World Cups,
and I'm very much on that page. But you have
to find that balance where everybody's got good synergy, you
all work together and the common denominator is you're winning
every test match for the All Blacks. And perhaps Jason
Holland been involved from his perspective, and like Leon McDonald said,
I don't quite feel that it's working. And the best

(01:40):
thing for the All Blacks is me moving on and
looking at where I can be a better coach.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Have we got a rich talent pool of replacements?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Look, I don't know that we've got the greatest steps
that we used to have. I certainly feel that there's
a great a great amount of coaches coming through and
what has been a really entertaining positive good be NPC campaign,
But taking that next step is a big step. And
obviously we've not seen a lot of those guys come
through Super Rugby yet, and Jamie Joseph has now gone

(02:10):
on to that All Blacks fifty. Those people, however, a
lot of them are ambitious and want to be head coaches,
non assistant coaches. But there are plenty of players out there.
Look look at what Jamie's got. He's got the likes
of Corey, Jane and people like that involved. So they
are there and thereabouts.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
While I've got you prediction time in PC Canterbury by
how many?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh, Mike, you know that you and I know that
Canterbury is going to win this game. It's going to
be tough. But are Targo going with the better form?
But I feel that the Canterbury factor in christ Church
they'll get the job done in a real close game.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Internationally, if we're going to lose one of the four
I see at Ireland in Chicago, but I say four
of four what do you say?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I say four or four? The first one is really
important that we get away to a good start. And
then obviously history against Scotland, we don't want that as
a negative. I've never ever beaten us, so that should
motivate New All Blacks. To me, England's the Neglie one.
As long as we win too and they go going
to England with momentum, we can get all four.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Final question for a Friday, Justin Marshall. When you go
to your spin class, are people intimidated by you being
next to them?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I tell you what, Mike, I usually walk my head
down or a hoodie on. I get onto my bike
and get my job done. I'm not what I used
to be, buddy, but at least I'm still putting it
out there again.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yes, well that is true. All right, we'll have a
good class. Appreciate it very much. Justin Marshall's got a
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