Full Show Podcast: 03 November 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Be Barning, You're welcome today. Dame Novin Talua seeks for
the first time since being reinstated. We got the Prime
Minister back from apecking with us after seven thirty Lads
in the commentary box, quite the weekend is fort Really
wasn't Richard Arnold Steeve Price. They mix it up as well,
Pasky and New Week looking forward to its seven past six.
Very good example economic lesson being played out in Australia
at the moment, perhaps another reminder that it's not really

(00:32):
the land of milk and honey that so many think
it may well be. Inflation came in way higher last
week than they thought it would. In fact, it's worse
than ours. So New Zealand won Australia nil. One of
the major components was government spending. Spending as a chunk
of the overall economy is high. That is inflationary, especially
when some of the money is handed out in large Yes,
now the government helped pay power bills. Why because people

(00:55):
moaned people will always moan and power bills in Australia
are not what they are here can that for nothing,
But if you decide it's unfair, the moaning starts. They
have a gas problem and the sense they export a
lot because the returns are good. That leaves the domestic
market short. They've got a lot of coal, but we
all know about coal. They don't have as much hydro
as US, so a lot of people have stuck panels
on their roofs. Of course, upshot is the government buckled

(01:17):
and told Australians they would help troubles they were helping
with debt. Australia has a debt pile that is dangerously
close to a trillion dollars, so last winter money they
didn't have was handed out to stop the moaning. The
other problem was not only was it paid with the
money they didn't have. It inevitably, of course, came to
an end, but not before the inflation number arrived last week. Amazingly,

(01:37):
Jim Charmers, the Treasurer, said on Friday they didn't rule
out looking at more subsidies next winter, but he said,
in his best left wing I can't spend enough of
other people's money kind of way. It can't last forever.
The subsidies were never meant to be permanent, weren't they.
That's quite a political trick. How do you hand the
candy out? Then, having got the masses hooked on it,

(01:59):
say there is no more? And are the messages grateful anyway?
Of course they're not the listeners to keep it simple?
Would power costs too much? Do something fundamental about it,
produce more, build something, or live with it pretending it's
not real by a band aiding. It always leans well,
it always ends and tears and in this case inflation.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Who news of the world in ninety seconds?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
So where are we out? With the trains?

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Sevens ten people were taken to hospital by ambulance and
another person self presented later that evening well nine were
initially believed to have life threatening injuries, following assessment and
treatment or thankful to say, being discharged.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
A bloke was on the train heard them say they've
got an eye, I've been stabbed, and then when looking
up so they were making their way through the carriage
to get away from the incident. From the suspects, they
were extremely bloody.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
They've got two arrists. They claim it doesn't tear up.
And to the States where courts will feature this week.
One court's already ruled over a SNAP that's the food
stamp program. Despite the shut down, the money has to
be paid.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
President Trump just truthed out that he needs to hear
from the courts how this is going to be done.
The best way for SNAP benefits to get paid is
for Democrats five Democrats to cross the aisle and reopen
the government.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Then we got Scout's going to hear the tariff's case Thursday.
This is the big one. White House is ready.

Speaker 7 (03:22):
Look at what he just did in Asia. You had Malaysia,
you had Japan, you had South Korea trade deals all
over the place, trillions of dollars of investments pouring into
our country because of his effective use of teriff.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Then back Wednesday, New York voting for mem and Armi's
your favorite. Cuomo still fighting freeze the rent.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
People think that means that he's going to freeze their
rent and their rent won't go up.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's totally untrue.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
The mayor has no authority, no legal authority to freeze
the rent.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Is an independent board that does it.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Then back in Britain, both Control has been handed to
your local pharmacists.

Speaker 8 (04:00):
Women need to know that they've got access to a service.
It's available in every high street, in nearly every pharmacy,
and they don't have to worry about whether they might
have to pay for it or any of those things.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
No, you don't have to pay for it. Finally, an
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He's the banana tape to the wall guard right now. No,
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(04:33):
It's one hundred and one kilograms of gold. And you
know what gold's worth these days, starting is going to
be seventeen point five million. As new as the world
in ninety. China is a worry still. Manufacturing activity came
out over the weekend for October. It's contracted more than expected.
That number comes in at a six month low at
forty nine fifty or above his expansionary twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
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Speaker 2 (05:05):
Fun Facts from Berkshire Hathaway. This is the you know,
Warren Buffett, et cetera. So profits up thirty four percent,
so that's interesting, more than two hundred percent surgeon insurance
underwriting income. That's sort of interesting. They ended up selling
more than they bought. They still can't find in this
market if you're following the market, So they didn't find
any other stocks that they liked, so they didn't buy
many stocks. So that's left them with cash, a record

(05:28):
amount of cash. They currently have three hundred and eighty
one point six billion dollars in cash fifteen past six.
I got them from General right, Brig Smith, Morning to
you and the old We're trying, but the numbers on
the consumer side of the equation don't seem to back
it up. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 9 (05:49):
This is the AMS Roy Morgan Consumer Conference survey. So
it was a world stall. That gives you a bit
of a clue. So conference fell slightly from ninety four
point six to ninety two point four in October, so
it came back last month's gains. The big thing I
look at, is it a good time to buy a
major household item. So the proportion of households that think
it is is fell into negative fourteen and it hasn't

(06:12):
been positive in four years. Future conditions that's looking a
bit better, not so much in the here and now,
so we're a bit more optimistic about the future septions
of current financial situations that ease to bit that's not
too far off the twenty twenty five average, but at
nine percent, expected to be better off this time next year.
Around the outlook of the next twelve months, that lifted

(06:33):
a little bit, still negative twenty two percent. And then
if you look at inflation side MIC, so that's lifted
to five point one percent. So that might look seem
a bit curious because CPI that's running at three percent,
but I suppose people maybe looking at food price inflations
that's four point six percent. The house prices they lifted
a little bit three point one percent, But yeah, I
think over all you'd have to say, we're in a
cautious mood. And I suppose, you know, the headlines appeared

(06:56):
to be reinforcing that sentiment. But suppose if you scratch
as soon, if it's hard enough, Mike, and we need
to do that. Consumer rears have been declining, some retailers
saying they're doing okay, so you know, maybe larainest rates
are starting to feed through and hopefully provide a filip
into that. I suppose that key shopping periods early, let's see,
but we might might love a decent ratecap before them
as well, which.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I don't think we will. Pretty good news at Amazon.

Speaker 9 (07:19):
It is all good in the jungle. Mic So Amazon
came with a crack of results, shares up nearly ten
percent on Friday, profits and sales ahead of expectations. Two
drivers here the cloud business that's what meants out computer
power to other companies are that's going pretty well. And
the advertising arm is booming, so it's helping on the
global Russian AI SA. If you look at Amazon websites
as that's the cloud, their sales are twenty percent to

(07:42):
thirty three billion operating income eleven point four b, and
that's around about two thirds of their total operating profit.
Then that's a it's a fraction of sales. It's quite interesting.
There's been a bit of concern about how well given
Google and Microsoft are doing that Amazon might be falling
behind as men and many of these big A ideals,
but it is doing just fine, and they say the

(08:02):
demand for AO is so strong they're going to spend
around about one hundred and twenty five billion building data
centers in technology to keep up this year revenue. The
ed Sena doing eve even better, up twenty four percent
seventeen point seven billion. Amazon is now one of the
biggest ad companies on Earth. Taelsales seventeen percent high one
hundred and eighty billion. Amazon dot Com. That's doing pretty

(08:22):
well as well. And for the current called Amazon se
sales of two hundred and thirteen billion not all smooth sailing.
They are killing around forteen one thousand corporate jobs, but
a bit of a drop in the bucket when you
look at the fact they've got one point six million employees.
So either the two point six trillion dollar company looks
to be doing pretty well.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
May Mike, what about Apple and the seventeen works?

Speaker 9 (08:43):
Yeah, the seventeen does work. It's flying off the shelves.
So tim Cox said demand for the new iPhone is
red hot and it has been off the chart. She
has went off that she has actually slightly lower on Friday,
but to be fair, they are up thirty percent over
the past six months. For year, iPhone's going well. Abot
one hundred and two billion in sales, it's a gain
of eight percent. Neat income that nearly doubled to twenty

(09:05):
seven and a half billion, iPhone revenue up six percent
four nine billions, so yeah, that's going pretty well. He
actually said they could have sold more but they had
a few supply constraints. And it's also worth highlighting as
well that the new phone didn't go and sold till
September nineteen, so you've only got a week of serve
sales in the current quarter. Other things are doing well
as well. Mike's services business that's subscriptions, iCloud, Apple music

(09:29):
sales there are fifteen cent twenty five billion, and Max
are also called the Humble laptop Mike as back in
starts as their sales up thirteen percent, So the cheap
of mac Bogie that's helping. But overall, tim Cox said
the stores a buzzy and game traffics up on last year.
He's confident December is going to be their best ever

(09:50):
and just on teos by the way, he said, they're
just eating that at a billion billion plus costs.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
But they can do that.

Speaker 9 (09:56):
Margin's still good, but they reckon sales for the final
quarter one hundred thirty seven billion, so like you should say,
fun factores, that's more than entire GDP of many countries
including US. So he also sees big leak coming in
AI bit developments in Siri, and also partnerships like as
steal chet GBT inside Apple Intelligence. So yeah, overall Apple

(10:19):
is crunching.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
It might now done real numbers. Give us the numbers, Yes.

Speaker 9 (10:23):
Record highs for the three main US in dises. So
the down up point one percent forty seven five six
two s in P five hundred up point three percent
six eight forty and there's a cup point six percent
twenty three seven two four fifty one hundred down point
four percent, nicky up two point one percent fifty two
four one one that is also a record a six
two hundred.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Flat eight eight eight one.

Speaker 9 (10:44):
Indeedex fifty were zero point seven percent higher thinne five
four eight goal down twenty one dollars four thousand and
three and ounce oil up forty one cents sixty spot
ninety eight. And the currencies we were point three percent
lower against the US fifty seven point two also lower
against Ossie eighty five than point five. We will't be
talking about eighty six before long. British pound forty three
point five down point four percent, Japanese yen eighty eight

(11:07):
point two down.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Four point four percent.

Speaker 9 (11:09):
Lots going on this week. My building permits Terry Aucy
rbn's Infinential Stability Report unemployment here expected to lift the
five point three percent. Got results in Westpac Melbourne Cup
Day that will be stopping the nation, but not the RBA.
They're deciding on rates. Bank of England also deciding. Not
much data probably with the shutdown in the US, but
there will be lots of results. Pellan here, AMD, Uber, Toyota, McDonald's, Estrazenica, Cortico,

(11:33):
Phillips and Airbnb.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's good stuff. Catch up, Sir Greg Smith out of
Generate Wealth, d Kiwi Saber specialist tasking. Reddit did well too.
Sales are up sixty eight percent in the year and
we love Reddit in this country. Per head of population,
New Zealand users read it more than anybody else on Earth,
bar The Australian six twenty one at News Talk.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
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Speaker 2 (12:02):
Talks at b Tanzania fabulous piece of African democracy. Over
the weekend, the President Hassan has been declared the winner.
There are, of course, days of unrest across the country,
but that's that's that's part of the course. She says.
The election was free and democratic. She got ninety eight
percent of the vote. Extraordinary results almost as though though

(12:24):
people that were wanting to run against her were I
don't know, arrested or banned. And the international observers, of
which there were some, expressed concern. No kidding.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Six twenty five trending now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's
healthy all year round.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
The Dutch result confirmed two d sixty six have done it.
So I'll just crunch you through the numbers and hopefully
it will be a lot smoother this time around, as
opposed to builders last time. Meantime, AI Billboard they've announced
their first ever AI singer to feature on their charts,
didn't love Me Down, No stay, This isn't the thing
It's interesting, isn't This is not I think this is
not a person. Zanaiah Maney designed by Talisha Jones who's

(13:05):
a poet in Mississippi and Talisha writes it with the
use of AI music software thing called Suno. They just
signed the AI artist a multimillion dollar deal with Hollwood Media.
There was allegedly a bidding war. It's called how Was
I Supposed To Know? And it's the debut at number

(13:26):
thirty on the Billboard R and B air Play chart.
She's also got another song on the gospel charts, and
that one's called Let's Go Let God. You can't say
this is Aiken. You can't listen like the video. You

(13:49):
can see I reckon, you can still see it, but
you couldn't tell this. Pidio Money has released a twenty
four track album called Unfolded Did that back in August,
followed by a seven called Pieces Left Behind in September.
So stand by up for the Christmas album. You can
pump these things out like dollar bills. By the way,
listen to all of Lily Allen's album over the weekend.
What a miserable piece of bollocks that is. Oh my god,

(14:12):
you're looking for When Taylor Swift died the business of
past relationships and sort of there's new allude to things
in the past, and people got a bit exercised about that.
If you want to see the trials and tribulations of
a miserable person. Listened to the whole Lily Allen album
My Law. One track's a whole phone call. It's just

(14:33):
she's in there going oh okay, No really, I didn't
realize that. That's how the whole track goes, just like
it was best sophisticated for you? Is that what it is?
News for you? And a couple of moments, by the way,
Dame Noline Tarua first interview post the reinstatement, What was

(14:55):
it like? What she gone through it? Most importantly is
she happy?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
An election state side. This week we'll get the word
shortley from Richard Ardland. Yesterday finally, Go Under World series
was brilliant as well. Twenty three minutes away from seven.
So here come to the beds. This is health one
hundred and forty of them across a rapid build forwards
in Middlemore Wake out of Wellington, Nelson Hawks Bay. Each
Moduli unit will include twenty eight beds built off site
set for completion by the second half of next year.

(15:29):
Blake Lepper is the head of Infrastructure Delivery at Health
New Zealand and is with us. Blake Morning, morning, mate.
How long has this been brelling?

Speaker 10 (15:39):
Actually, in many ways not this long, but with everything
in health that has a long story. Our team and
hawks Bay had been thinking creatively about solutions up there
to deal with some of their challenges, and they put
up a business case last year and when we saw that,
we really saw that there was an opportunity to think
nationally about this. As we could run one pros find

(16:00):
one supplier, then we're really hopeful that we could make
this kind of step change in many places around the country.
And that's what was announced yesterday.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
So as one hundred and forty based on demand or dollars, the.

Speaker 10 (16:13):
One hundred and forty is based on you know, wards
come in certain sizes, so it's an increment of that
kind of standard twenty eight to thirty beds. The budget
has allowed us to get an extra one of these
modular units than what we were expecting. So it's about
us buying these tools that are incredibly flexible and sending

(16:34):
them to wherever the highest needs are For that additional
space around the country.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Does it look a bit pre fab Is it like
in the corner of the car park? No?

Speaker 10 (16:44):
No, that's the amazing thing about how far this off
site modular construction has really come in the last couple
of years. We put out our specifications that describe a
ward that is exactly the same as what you'd see
in a brand new hospital around the country. Markets turned
around and gone, absolutely, we can deliver that. We can
deliver it cheaply, we can deliver it quickly, and we

(17:06):
can deliver it to wherever you need it around the country.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
And so that's the building aspect, not that does it
function in every way shape as you would expect it
to as a health facility internally?

Speaker 10 (17:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (17:17):
Absolutely.

Speaker 10 (17:18):
I mean this doesn't replace the need for long term
redevelopments of these sites. Obviously we want to get really
compact campuses and why we need to develop over time
kind of the bigger buildings that make up a hospital.
But right now, the ability to plug these buildings into

(17:38):
these campuses and leave that kind of acute pressure that
they are facing for space, these will be fantastic spaces
for clinicians and patients.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Are they permanent in that sense once you plug them
in and they're there, they are there for good or
are these sort of part time.

Speaker 10 (17:54):
No, They've definitely been designed as a part time solution
while we develop that longer term redevelopment proposals for these areas.
So in time, you know, wi they will be taking
up real estate that will be used on that campus
for more more permanent things. But for right now, they're there,
they're available, and they can stay there as long as

(18:17):
as needed to provide that space.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Appreciate time. Blake Lepper, who's the head of Infrastructure Delivery
at Health New Zealand daughter went to Melbourne over the weekend,
got the red Eye Saturday, came back on the red
Eye yesterday for Oasis. Interesting comments about Melbourne, interesting comments
about the concerts. So I'm looking forward to talking to
Steve about that late at twenty two.

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Speaker 13 (20:29):
Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
What are we voting for this week?

Speaker 14 (20:32):
Key week in politics here. Yeah, the government shutdown is
really starting to bite things, careening towards the longest shutdown
in history, so watch out for that. Food benefits being
cut for millions of folks. While at Airport's more and
more air traffic controllers are staying off work since they're
not being paid. That's delaying or canceling a lot of
flights as well. Yeah, voting This Wednesday, your time sees
the first electoral test for Trumpets the off year elections

(20:55):
with governor's races in mostly left leaning states Virginia and
New Jersey, plus f C New York mayor's race, which
has been getting a lot of attention, and the fight
over a ballot measure in California which would redraw a
number of seats here to favor the Dems in the
same way that the Republicans just did in Texas. So
a lot of attempt at cheating going on. And what's
the vibe. Well, there are some new polls out this day,

(21:16):
as you will have seen, and the ABC Washington Post
pole has over sixty and ten saying Trump and the
Republicans are out of touch. This pole blames Trump for
quote going too far in trying to expand the power
of the Presidency's sixty four percent so that no time
though for the Dems to tread water. It's a pox
on both their houses. Sixty eight percent in this pole
say the Democrats are out of touch. So that's more

(21:37):
than turn thumbs down on Trump at sixty three percent
and the Republican Party itself on negative sixty one. So
Obama is out campaigning in some of the governor's races,
and California's governor Newsom, who seems to have been prepping
his own presential bid for months and months and months now,
is slamming Trump.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
In every core category.

Speaker 15 (21:55):
He's underwater, and he's ago promised to make us wealthier
and healthier, we're poor, and so across the board, people
are starting to realize that not only is our coffee
more expensive, their beef is more expensive, but the cost
of an automobile is more expensive. Since he became president,
of the cost of utilities, all the things he promised
to solve day one he hasn't solved.

Speaker 14 (22:14):
So those costs are a key. People here are just
getting their health insurance renewals as well, and these are skyrocketing.
A friend of mine whose daughter has a serious ailment,
says his insurance now has an out of pocket potential
payout of almost get this, sixteen thousand dollars in New
Zealand per year, while this woman says her basic insurance
has sword.

Speaker 13 (22:34):
This is more than quadrupled in cost for me.

Speaker 9 (22:36):
So it's just straight out there's no way I would
be able to afford the next.

Speaker 14 (22:41):
Year meantime, but shut down. An NBC poll out today
says forty two percent blame the Democrats for well, fifty
two percent blame Trump and the Republicans. Trump's Treasury Secretary,
Scott Besstt, was just pressed about on when food Ate
for the Poor will resume. He was questioned by CNN's
Jake Tapper about all of this be.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Done by wednesday, could be?

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Okay, could be, and five Democratic senators could cross the
aisle and open the government by wednesday.

Speaker 9 (23:07):
You do it.

Speaker 14 (23:07):
No, you do it, The Democrats leader in the House
that Kim Jeffrey says, dip into emergency funds and do so. Now.

Speaker 16 (23:14):
The Trump administration needs to release these benefits.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
They have the funds for a contingency situation.

Speaker 14 (23:22):
Really, people need to eat instead. Later From Camp Trump
is how he had a great Gatsby style Roaring twenties
super party at Mari Lago for Halloween this week, and
how Trump has just redone his White House bathroom in
white marble.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I enjoyed it. Game seven extra innings, Dodgers got there.

Speaker 14 (23:40):
Was a stunner. We paint the City of Angels in blue.
This was an epic series between the LA team and
the Toronto Blue Jays, with the Dodgers pulling off what
was just a remarkable comeback at every point. Right they
were facing a stunning defeed early on, with Toronto needing
just one more victory to break their longtime World Series drought.
Then the Dodgers clawed way back, making the big game

(24:01):
last night the clincher. Toronto took an early lead, then
the Dodgers slowly pulled back. Who knew what was going
to happen. The game was sent into extra innings and
MVP pitcher him Momoto was brought back after pitching the
night before. He was so tired he didn't think he
was able to do much. The rest of the team
sparked up and they did it, winning five to four.
He was the moment two pitch bounces were locked.

Speaker 17 (24:24):
Combustup, Dutch up, you gotta knock.

Speaker 8 (24:29):
Come out the Dodger standa and went back duck out.

Speaker 14 (24:34):
Titles has said repeat titles, first back to back titles
in twenty five years. Count them The Blues and Mookie Betts,
who said the other day he'd been playing so very badly.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Now the tough guy.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
They don't care about tough games. We know how to
win some games.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
Will.

Speaker 14 (24:47):
The Dodgers manager Dave Roberts was celebrating as well.

Speaker 6 (24:51):
Here's comments, what a great series, what a great game,
and I think we're going to be talking about this
game for a long time.

Speaker 14 (24:56):
Big parade for the Dodgers in Los Angeles tomorrow. This
really was an epic w Even with a twenty twenty
five pay roll for the team of six hundred and
eleven million dollars. New Zealand play Yamamoto was so zonked
he could barely help lifting the winning trophy.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
It was worth watching Good on your Mate Nose to
ketch Upsy. Wednesday, Richard Arnold state, so I just quickly
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Speaker 2 (26:23):
He announcement comes in today. Visa V travel for Chinese
visitors is available as of now. They've made the announcement previously.
So the idea was that you had to use translators.
The whole thing was a problem. And as we look
forward to the tourism sector bouncing back to what it
was pre COVID. It never really happened because one of
the biggest markets, of course, was the Chinese and it
became problematic for the Chinese, our third largest tourism market,

(26:44):
two or fifty thousand arrivals in the year end in
July of this year. So as of today no longer
needed certified translations for visitor visa documents and visa processing,
so that's now fast. So the processing of the visa
they claims now down to four days only outside I
would criticize them on is the fact that it's you've

(27:04):
got to go through Australia, so we're piggybacking off the
back of Australia. So in other words, we're thinking, well
that the Australian's clear, than they've got to be good
for us to come through. So unless they're going to Australia,
they still can't come here. And I'm not sure that's
as smooth and loose as it it potentially needs to be.
Five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 2 (27:31):
By the way, the nationals in Australia yesterday they voted
to dump the zero, the Paris, the twenty fifty, all
of that sort of stuff, which is another headache for
Susan Lee in the coalition. And there's a poll out
this morning. They are at record lows. If you ever
want to see a party literally implode in front of
your eyes, those are the numbers. We'll talk to Steve
about them later on. Meantime, back here, we've got the

(27:51):
jobless numbers this week. Unemployment numbers. As Greg alluded to
at the start of the program, expectation is going to
tick up slightly, but I think it's going to peak's
I think it's it's as bad as it's going to be.
Majority of economists are predicting unemployment rate of five to three.
Is that up, Yes, it is. It's currently five to two.
B and Zed Westpac both say five to three. They're
also expecting the small drop and the participation rate not

(28:13):
a lot though, because they expect that drop to go
from seventy point five to seventy point four A and Z.
They claim that wage inflation is going to be down
a little bit as well, two point three down to
two point two, so we're not getting the pay rises
and you know, of course, where inflation is at currently,
which means we're all going backwards on average. The private
sector not fearing any better. They're expected to slow from

(28:34):
four point six to four point three. ASB is the
optimist in the pack, they have unemployment steady at five
point two. So if it comes in a five to
two five three, I think there'll be enough confidence for
a number of economists anyway to say that's as bad
as it gets. The upside of that in the bad
old days, and I'm going back maybe a year they
were going, well, watch out in twenty twenty five could

(28:56):
go as high as six, so it's going to be
nowhere that some said once they adjusted that view it
could be as high as five five. So it doesn't
look like he's going to go there either. So if
you want to take the glass half full, things have
peaked and peaked lower than we thought. Fingers crossed right, well,
he thought at this Dame nol In Taru hasn't spoken

(29:17):
through this whole process, and what a process it has been.
It seems from the outside looking into have been a
complete calamitous mess, a bungled, mangled, unprofessional shambles that started
allegedly at the beginning of this year at a camp
where a couple of people didn't like the way they
were being treated. They went to the management. They said,
we don't like the way we're being treated. Next thing,

(29:39):
you know, Dame nol In Tarua, legend of the sport
has stood down and we all go what and then
it goes on for months, only finally resolved last week.
Dame Nolan Tarua speaks for the first time after the
news which is next.

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Speaker 2 (30:05):
Seven past seven, and well, what the story? It's been
a netball New Zealand drops coach named Nolan Taru. After
allegations from some players of a psychologically unsafe environment, A
mixture of confusion, silence, delay, and eventually governed intervention ensues,
culminating in a reinstatement. So let's fill in some gaps
for the first time in this whole mess. Name Nolan
Tarhoo is with us. A very good morning to you,

(30:25):
Good morning, welcome back.

Speaker 18 (30:28):
Oh Look, Hay, can I publicly first start by thanking
you a behalf of my south, the family and actually
the netbook community for keeping the home fires burning, so
to speak. But I'm elated to be back and it
feels like game day.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
If I'm going to be honest, good, do you sit
here this morning happy and vindicated or is there more
to it?

Speaker 13 (30:51):
Look?

Speaker 18 (30:52):
I do sit here feeling happy. I don't take my
role lightly. I feel I'm a guardian out as a
head coach number eleven and I don't own it. So
to some degree I feel vindicated. And that was a necessity, necessarity, necessity,

(31:12):
a necessary sort of statement that was included in the
public statement by Netball New Zealand. But got a long
way to go in what way, uh one? I need
to be on court looking forward to that knowing that
I have Commonwealth Games next year, so I've got to

(31:35):
work through the opportunities that present in that way for
me and also what needs to be looked at moving
forward for this team. I'm excited by getting back out
on court when that opportunity does present, but also a
bit of work to do behind the scenes as well.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
The fact you're back but not back are you happy
about that.

Speaker 18 (32:01):
Look, I'm back. It's probably the thing that I that
I'm holding on to. And as I say as a coach,
my happy place is on court. It's on the training
with the players, it's in team meetings, it's what I do,
it's how I do it. And until I sort of
really get back in my eyes, then they're still.

Speaker 17 (32:23):
A bit to go.

Speaker 18 (32:23):
So but I'm happy. It's been a long journey over
the last two months, very horrific in my eyes, but
you know, I've got to where I am, and I'm
proud of that I've been able to stand at my
own truth, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Just for the record, a lot of people texted us
this question, Are you, as you speak to us this morning,
constrained in any way in what you're able to say?

Speaker 16 (32:46):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (32:46):
I am.

Speaker 18 (32:47):
I am constrained, mainly because of what's been signed, and
I really want to honor that in regards to the
integrity that I have, but also the balancing act I
suppose that I have to be able to put my
truth out there. So I'm in my conscious space. I've
never been so conscious in my life. But you know,

(33:09):
I don't want to be I don't want it to
be the shortest reinstatement. I've had enough excitement over the
last two months, but I also need to put my
truth out there. So this is a balancing act that
I'm prepared to walk.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Were you unfairly treated?

Speaker 18 (33:28):
The process that I needed to go through when I
was suspended or went through that was to then get
lawyers involved, and through Mentor Allison, who has actually helped
me amazingly, we've been able. They've been able to work
through a process and negotiate with NET for New Zealand

(33:49):
to be reinstated, hence me being here. Obviously there are
other options that could have been taken, which is a
legal option, but to be honest, I do want to
go there, you know, like that was my last option
to do. It would have been positive so to speak
for me, because everything would have been laid out. But

(34:10):
I'm also very aware about taxpayers money, I'm aware about
Nepal community money, and I know that we don't have
a lot, so you know, that would have been my
last grasp. But I'm really really happy that my lawyers
have been able to negotiate and here I am.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
In really simple terms without reltigating the past. Was it
simply a case of some players didn't like the way
you treated them, they complained and that was the process.

Speaker 18 (34:39):
In real simple terms. I don't know and I can't
tell you, and that's that's my truth. I'm not sort
of going on the lines I actually don't know, but
I can tell you that I am one hundred percent open.
It's my one O one if I'm going to be
honest of listening to players, listening to anybody as to

(35:03):
what concerns they have, and then looking for solutions to
make it better. So that's just what I do and
how I do it, and I haven't stopped that at all,
and over my twenty five years, that's what I'm synonymous
with in regard to the culture and the environment that
I build. So that's that's all I can say in

(35:23):
that matter. But the question that you've asked, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
But when you say you don't know, when you sat
down with the management of the board of Netball in
New Zealand and they were standing you down, they were
standing you down for what.

Speaker 18 (35:37):
My truth is, I don't know. So that's where my
lawyers came to help in regards to negotiations and to
find out what the truth and then to work through
the process for me to come back. I was always
adamant on my reinstatement and that was my number one
option with number two going legal with we needed to.

(36:00):
But I state once again that I am happy to
listen to any concerns put the solutions forward. But what
I also want to stand in as well is that
it's not environmental. I'm happy for individuals to tell the truth,
and if anything, I encourage that, but there's some things.

(36:22):
Once again, if it's environmental or the around, the team
are off stand strong in that because I know it's not.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Dame Nolan, just hold on for two seconds. We'll take
a brief break, come back with more in a moment.

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At be News Talks. Sixteen past seven are Dame Nolan
Taro as I guessed a lot of feedback in there,
Break Nolan, as you would imagine, can we just just
for clarifications sake? When you refer to your truth, is
this legal advice? You'd like to say other things, but
you've been told not to.

Speaker 18 (36:56):
When I say my truth, it's my intent great and
actually my truth. You know, it's it's my honesty around
where I stand. If I was talking about legal advice,
i'd say no comments or something.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Like that, Okay, this is me, Okay, Well I just
no one seems to understand how you can be stood
down with no understanding of why you were stood down.

Speaker 18 (37:22):
I understand that.

Speaker 10 (37:24):
And.

Speaker 18 (37:25):
I'm laughing because I understand that.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Okay, I think that's just enough of it. Were you
tempted at any point in the process to tell them
to stick it?

Speaker 9 (37:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (37:37):
Look, probably for the first four or five weeks I
grappled with that. Actually, probably for the whole time I
grappled with that. What I was really strong on I
felt that I had the support of the players and
the team the majority. It was really important for me

(37:58):
to get my name cleared, but also for the people
that I work with as well. There's a massive reputational
damage around when when things are put out around psychological
harm and fear in the culture, in the environment that
we work in, and you know, it's really standing up
for those people and what's right?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Am I correct in saying that once they investigated, they
found nothing. There wasn't an investigation, so there was no
investigation at all No, why did it take so long?

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Then?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Oh you with us?

Speaker 18 (38:49):
Hey, Mike, Yes, I'm on Breakfast Show, but I'm happy
to come back after I finished the Breakfast Show.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Okay, sure we can do that.

Speaker 18 (39:01):
I've been ushered out to somewhere else, but I'm happy
to come back. Kirie. Sorry, listeners, Kerrie will make contact
with you to organize a time, hopefully today this morning.
Then you can ask me more questions.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
All right, I'd love to nice to talk. Appreciate it.
Nolin Tarua slightly odd end, but we might get it
back on after the prime minister, if you got a couple.
I had a couple more questions left, but the fact
that she said there was no investigation seems too weird. Anyway,
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me up seven twenty three. Explain this to me other matters,
Explain this to me. Which clause of the treaty is
the WAITINGI Tribunal using when they suggest the government recognized

(40:46):
second generation MARI for citizenship. Now, if you haven't followed
this one, you should. Because John Ruddick brought the case
there was a similar one god headlines recently because it
involved Kesha Castle Hues, the actress. In her case, she
was born in Australia to a New Zealand mum. Her
children were born in America, hence they didn't get automatic citizenship. Ruddick, too,
was born in Australia, got citizenship by descent, but as

(41:09):
children were born offshore as well, and descent only operates
to one generation. This is not, by the way, new law.
It is not a surprise. It has been this way
for decades. So the tribunal here is the case, decides
the law needs changing. My question is on what basis
is the tribunal not here, how well loosely to interpret
the treaty and where in the treaty does it talk

(41:30):
of generational dissent issues? Under what clause does it talk
of being born in Australia. And of course it doesn't
because it was written in the eighteen hundreds and it
is at best vague, which leaves it open to interpretation.
So the question for the here and now, the modern
age is how much so called law is going on
here versus how much ideology? Law is developed? Of course,

(41:51):
if not by the Parliament, by regular courts, when they
see a gap. They interpret the recent foreshore drama as
a very good example. The two thousand and eleven law
was explicit. The court simply didn't like it, so they
suggested change. The government had to step in. But the
whiteing in tribunal, which remember has no actual legal power,
seems merely to make things up. One generation isn't enough,

(42:11):
so let's make it too. So having made it, so,
what do I make it for? Why don't make it
really easy? Anyone who remotely feels Mary can claim citizenship
for any number of offspring, no matter where they were born,
as long as it feels right. Where does the treaty
stop in the improv start? Thank goodness, the government not
going to do anything about this. But that's this government.

(42:31):
What about another government? What about the historic long term
consequences of a tribunal that is running roughshot Hosking. So
we'll ask Prime Minister Cristopher Luxan about that morning. Mike
Nolean might be speaking, but she's still on a gag order.
While she explained that I think fairly clearly, so happy
you've got Dame noln coming on. So the remaining questions

(42:51):
for me, the things that came out of it to
this particular point is I think she explained clearly, although
not clearly, why she was dropped. She knows, she can't
say she's been advised not to say, so I think
we got that reasonably clearly stated. Then she tells us

(43:12):
there was no investigation. So if there was no investigation,
some of the reportage might then be wrong, because the
reportage I had heard is that after the investigation nothing
was found, hence her reinstatement. So if there was no investigation,
the most obvious question is how come it took so long?
Because you've got to remember, this thing goes back to
January to February. A couple of players allegedly came forward

(43:35):
and it was not until June that they formerly escalated
the player's concerns to Jenny Wiley, who was of course
the CEO of Netball New Zealand. So it's gone from
February to June before they escalate, and then an independent
review gets underway in July. So the thing starts in February,
it's not official until July when it's up and rolling.
So from July until last week, which of course is October,

(44:00):
what was going on apart from lawyers, and apart from
a bit of back and forward and a bit of negotiating,
if there was no investigation. It's the weirdest thing. So
I don't know whether we get to the bottom of
this this morning or not. I don't know how reluctant
she is to be back. But if we get it
back home, we'll ask a few questions around that and
see what we can ascertain. But what do you make

(44:21):
of it? Are you happy? I mean, as long as
she's back and she's coaching, are you happy? Is that resolved?
He doesn't sound overly happy. Cost him money? Lawyers? Are
they paying for the lawyers? That's the other question. It
wouldn't mind asking meantime, while we hope for all that
to unfold. And what a weird ending to that was.
I don't know what the hell happened there. We get
to the bottom of that's something to do with TVNZ.
As far as I can work out, we've probably got hijacked.

(44:42):
As my summation of it. Anyway, Christoph Lux is back
in the country from sen and Apec. It seems to
have gone well. It got written up well, nothing tangibly
happened out of it. We didn't sign anything. We're not
trading anymore. But we did it get upgrader than a
couple of arrangements, so that's encouraging. I suppose the main
headlines were Trump. We won't dwell on all of that

(45:02):
because there's a bunch of domestic matters that we have
to deal with. So Christopher Luxen in the studio directly
after the news, which is next on the Mic Hosking.

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(45:31):
togs Head been twenty.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Three minutes away from a sport after eight with Andrew
and Jason. Of course, many time the Prime Minister's back
in the country. Did to see you see too much?
It seemed to go what do you make of Nolean
tarruh oh.

Speaker 19 (45:44):
Look, I mean I don't actually understand what's actually happened there.
It's good that it's altimately been resolved, and it was
good to see the Silvern's come back in that series.
But unless that they lost twelve eleven, I think that
extra time. But yeah, I honestly haven't been able to.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Work out what's what's actually he doesn't bothering you that
we spend millions of dollars on a sport that seems dysfunctional.

Speaker 19 (46:03):
Well, I mean I think it's about Well, I don't
think it is. I think it's a really important sport.
I think as well, it's an important coort.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
She's not well run.

Speaker 19 (46:09):
Well, I mean that's that's that's up for them to
sort their act out with their employment disputes.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Okay, it seems to have gone well. I mean, you
didn't sign anything per se, but we got upgraded. You
met the right people. You didn't make a dick of yourself.
The plane, Oh what are such a low bar, you said, Michael,
the plan, the plane didn't break down. It seemed to
go okay.

Speaker 19 (46:30):
I think it was a great success. We transacted some
business with Malaysia, which is on there on a state visit.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
We upgraded our relationship with.

Speaker 19 (46:37):
The UNG countries. We're only seven countries that have that
level of standard, which just means more investment, more exports.
APEX was good to see where seventy percent of our
exports go to those twenty one economies that are represented there.
And then we had some very good sort of bilateral
engagements with leaders and we upgraded the relationship with career
as well, which is, you know, one of the top
ten economies in the world. So all of that's just

(46:58):
designed to create opportunity for New Zealm businesses. That's all
all I can do is create the conditions for growth
and then it's up to businesses to come forward and
go smash it.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
It was a smart thing to do to invite Trump
to play golf. Do you think it's possible he may
well one day do that? Yeah, I reckon it could be. Yeah.

Speaker 19 (47:14):
I mean he knew a lot about the golf assets
that are here in New Zealand, you know, the golf courses.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
He had heard about them.

Speaker 19 (47:19):
You know, they generally are in the top ten fifteen
in the world. And if he's going to come down
to Australia and New Zealand and this part of the world,
then you know, we should certainly welcome here.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
The problem with your recommendation, Tarti, was it's a links course, yes,
and he likes a nicely manicured PGA type course. We
can find something. There's enough good, good courses here. But yeah,
that was good.

Speaker 19 (47:43):
That was a good meeting because he had very furmal
meetings with China and Korea, and then he met with
us justin formally on me personally, which was great.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
So he was very good. Okay, the announcement that this
smalling the Chinese tourists say no longer need to do
all the paperwork the way they used to if they
come through Australia. Would you have liked who have done more?
Because unless they do come through Australia, they've still got
the same problems.

Speaker 19 (48:04):
Well no, Actually, back in June when I did the visit,
we did a few things. One as we got rid
of a whole bunch of complexity and actually costs that
they have around getting all their applications translated and certified
and all those sorts of things. I think we're now
processing Chinese visas in less than a four or four
or five days from memory. The second thing we did
is we said, look, if you're transiting through New Zealand,
you know that's we can have a lot more flexibility there,

(48:26):
which has been great because there is new services that
are coming on stream between China and South America through Auckland,
which is really good. And the third thing is recognizing
that a vast number of a large proportion of the
Chinese visits actually due to Australia and New Zealand in
one trip. And if the Australians are actually saying, look,
you're good with a work travel or visit a visa,
then actually, why would we want to reduplicate all of

(48:47):
that work. It's good enough for us to so feel
free to come over to New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
For three months.

Speaker 19 (48:51):
Okay, we also have that five year multiple entry visa
in amount as well.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
I don't know how up on this you were, but
there's a lot of pushback last week on the education curriculum.
There some concern, particularly because of all curriculum got put
out four years one to ten and a lot of teachers, educators, unionists,
et cetera. I can't work it out whether they just
complain for the sake of complaining because they don't like change,
or they've got a genuine point. They seem to be
indicating that some of the expectation around some of the

(49:17):
things that kids will learn at a certain age is
too complicated, it's too difficult. So are they dumbing us
down well or have you missed the boat here?

Speaker 19 (49:26):
I feel very strongly about this. Might there's nothing more
important for our future success in the next twenty years
and getting our kids educated. There is a stack of
high paying jobs out there in the world and we
need them to come to New Zealand. And what's been
happening is actually our standards have been slipping versus lots
of other countries. We actually had over half our kids
not at school regularly. We have half not where they
need to be at on reading, eighty percent not where

(49:46):
they need to be add on maths when they get
into high school. And I don't remember the Union's actually
going after Chris Sapkins when he was Education Minister for
six years and saying, hey, listen, we've got a dumbing
down on the standards. Is actually we're actually underachieving and
not doing this service by our kids. I'm not having
kiwe kids lose to kids in Singapore, Ireland, Canada.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
New South Wales wherever.

Speaker 19 (50:06):
And so we are strengthening the curriculum from year one
to ten because that's the single biggest thing that we
can do to set ourselves up for future. So you know,
the unions, there's a consulted consultation period. Be constructive, don't
be political, get in behind. But where were you when
the last six years calling out the poor performance police.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Do we have trouble in the police. A bunch of
people are now being investigated post them's skimming thing and
now we've got falsified breath tests. Is there something going
on in the police that you're concerned about? No, no, no,
I think you know.

Speaker 19 (50:35):
They're obviously are issues that are going through their office
have their own investigations. The police is a large organization,
but it's very well led by the commissioner. He does
a really good job and he's very happy to be
very upfront and confront those issues when and where they
do a pair and that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
All right, Standard and pause. So that water dunwell is
going to be more expensive than the labor alternative. Part
of their reason is that, of course, the debt mechanism
you've set up for councils to borrow could lead counsels
into some real debt trouble if it all goes wrong.
The water entity is the one that ends up and
the problem. But the bill goes back to the councils.
Any regrets on that.

Speaker 17 (51:09):
No, No, it is what it is.

Speaker 19 (51:11):
No, I mean, Labor spent one point two billion dollars
on three waters, and it went nowhere. We went to
the credit agencies, S and PS. He'd give us some
financial structures that actually give the balance sheet separation and
so that those entities can actually borrow long term debt
over long run assets and separate them out from councils.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
And I think we've got to a very very good place.
But that's what it is some peple're saying. It's some
peple of saying, well, yes, you've separated it down, but
the council goes in up to their eyeballs and debt
they borrow more, then their water entity runs into trouble.
Suddenly the council's bankrupt.

Speaker 19 (51:41):
Yeah, but the whole point is councils should be financed
to a certain level of debt borrowing that they can
do as councils. But when you actually have water entities
that have assets that are thirty to fifty seventy years long,
the problem was that councils were funding those assets out
of short term money. And what they can now do
is like you can get a mortgage for a house
that the payoff over thirty years, it is the same
thing here as well. So no, I'm really comfortable with

(52:03):
that I think actually it's the right solution, which is
you've got real assets that you can go borrow against
over the long term.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
You can borrow it at a higher proportion than you
could if you.

Speaker 19 (52:11):
Were just a council and all of that just means
that you then have the councils freed up to actually
with the cash that they've got to make sure they're
doing the right thing. So now I'm very supportive for when.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
The hospital bed announcement this morning, this prefab thing. I mean,
it's like school, schools and hospitals are now prefabs. It's
sort of got that corner of a car park, a
bit crappy. Not what we want thod world vibe about it,
doesn't it. Well, we've got to do long.

Speaker 19 (52:33):
Term investment in the hospital infrastructure. I think there's I
remember Mike looking at this twelve hundred buildings and hospitals
infrastructure and using on the average age is forty seven
years or something. So in the intervening period in the
short term, what can you do? And I think some
men has been very pragmatic saying let's put in one
hundred and forty new beds in.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Five different places next year.

Speaker 19 (52:51):
But The thing that's interesting is we used to spend
a bunch of We spend a bunch of money on classrooms.

Speaker 15 (52:56):
Right.

Speaker 19 (52:56):
It turned out when we got to power, we discovered
that it's like one point two monment dollars for a classroom,
and only twenty percent were standardized. We standardize them, we
lower the cost place staff. You do twice as many
classrooms for the same price. Now labels say to us, oh,
you're not spending enough on class Well, no, actual, we're
just being smarter about doing it, and we're doing twice
as many as you were doing. Speaking of which, so
that thinking across healthcare, across if you think about military bases,

(53:18):
if you think about corrections, I think there's a real
opportunity there.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Okay, speaking of which, I'm reading over the weekend that
transmission gully. Over the summer period, we'll have thirty two
million dollars spent on it fixing it up. It's a
brand new road, and thirty two million dollars needs to
be spent fixing up a brand new road. What's the
matter with us?

Speaker 19 (53:36):
I'm not aware of what the specific issue they're trying.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
To fix is, but well, they didn't build it properly.

Speaker 19 (53:41):
Well, that may well be the case, but I think
the reality is that we have been in a situation
he's on.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
I think we had sixty three thousand potholes across.

Speaker 19 (53:49):
This country and it's because we weren't doing renewals and maintenance.
And so you know, once you build a road network,
you do need to make sure it maintains it's mainzing year.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
But if it's twenty years old, sure, this is about
three minutes old.

Speaker 18 (54:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I don't know why I asked the question. It's not
your fault, you didn't build it. But all I'm saying
is you do have a program of roads of nationals inepotency.
You've been spending billions and we're going to spend many
more billions to.

Speaker 19 (54:09):
Just no, we need to build them once and do
it right from the beginning, and you know, build them
for one hundred and ten k so they're actually built
and certified for that properly, and all those sorts of
things which hasn't happened.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Yet must to see good. See you got any questions
for Nolan turor anymore? Any do you want to know
anything more than just when are we going to start
beating Australians. That's all I care about. Nice to see
Christopher lux and fourteen two.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
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Speaker 11 (54:37):
It'd be.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Mike, Dame Nolean won't know why she cannot be told
as it will identify her accuser. I know, pathetic. If
you're being stood down without being given a reason, that's
against employment law. I think we were given a reason.
She just can't say what it is. Is my summation
from it, Mike. As much as I believe that Dolean,
Dame Nolean has been mistreated, it is her belief that

(55:02):
there was no investigation. It's not her truth that drives
me crazy when people speak like that. Well, she's back
on in a minute. We'll try and wrap it up.
It's ten to eight the.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
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Speaker 2 (55:16):
Met us away from it. Let's conclude our interview this
morning with Dame Nolan Tarboru, who is back with It's Nolan,
when you were kidnapped and taken away. Let me just
go back to this business of there was no investigation?
Are you literally telling us there was no investigation at all.

Speaker 18 (55:33):
Y's correct.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
So what was going on between when they elevated the
situation in July to what happened last week where you
got reinstated. What literally was happening in that period of time.

Speaker 18 (55:47):
Well, for me, I was working with my lawyers to
be reinstated. That was always my primary focus, and them
negotiating with the lawyers as to how we could do that.
So I was in survival mode, Mike, and I was

(56:08):
I was fighting for my life. So that's that's really
what two months was worth.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Okay, So just for clarity's sake, you were never told
why you were being stood down and there was no investigation.

Speaker 18 (56:24):
Uh correct.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
So what did your lawyers say?

Speaker 18 (56:30):
Well, they said a lot, and I'm not gonna that's
one of the things I'm not going to repeat, but
they've actually said a lot. But what what I can say,
I know I've been told actually by my mind, I
could you stop saying that you don't know? But what
I can actually say these four things that really matter
to me, And and those four things are about people,

(56:54):
They're about integrity, they're about process, and they're about the
sewer Fund legacy. And again, those are the four things
that matter to me the most. I will one hundred
percent listen to players, like one hundred percent, that's my
one oh one people are what I do and I
actually want to win. So you know, I stand strong

(57:16):
on those four things. Ok And I keuld talk to
that like to cows come home. But there's some things
that I just can't talk about because I yeah, okay,
to stay away from the words.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
That I don't know. Gail Parata we had on the
program when she quit, she was one of the selectors.
She said that the fear for her from your situation
is this seems a chilling message to every coach in
the country that it could happen to them as well
as what's happened to you. Do you have that same fear.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (57:44):
Look, one of the learnings that I've taken out of this,
and I'll be strongly I'll strongly advocate for this moving forward,
and whatever I do is that is that sport is
not bigger than law. And you know, the law is
therefore the pretension of everybody, whether it's the athletes, whether

(58:04):
it's the staff, whether it's the coach, and everybody in
the systems or the processes that are in a very
clear and clean So I sort of feel that there's
gaps are our in our sporting system because usually what
happens with coaches and and you know, there's plenty of
examples of that, whether it's the Hagar, what's happened with

(58:27):
football as well. I can understand why coaches can't hang
in there because you know, it's the reputational damage that
happens every It's so public a lot of times, and
it impacts on not only you as an individual your career,
but also your family. So it's very clear what the
processes are in regards to legally what needs to happen

(58:49):
for any resolution. So you know, it's it's a tough world,
and I will stand really strongly in regards to due
process and anything like this needs to happen moving forward.
I'll be right beside those coaches.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
All right, Nolan, We've got to wrap it up because
we're out of time, But I appreciate the time very much.
I'm sorry for what you've had to go through in
this period of time, but I'm glad sort of it
seems to have worked itself out and you're back.

Speaker 18 (59:16):
Yeah, thank you, Thanks for your support.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Mike not at almost to talk to you, Dame nol
and Tarru. Hopefully we've got enough out of that many
complicated business. It doesn't answer the question for my mind
anyway as to the dysfunction around netball New Zealand, because
you can't hide from that. There seems to have been
something deeply, deeply wrong with the way that nitball is
running this country anyway, Jason and Andrew, but moments away

(59:42):
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Speaker 18 (01:00:04):
I'm proud of that I've been able to stay in
my own truth, so to speak.

Speaker 10 (01:00:11):
Come out seed, complete the seats.

Speaker 13 (01:00:15):
The only team they have never beaten was Handlade.

Speaker 18 (01:00:19):
United Times how they have I had to be able
to put my truth out here A one old drawer.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Great entertainment.

Speaker 17 (01:00:30):
As the game ends, Central Coast Barons one Wellington Phoenix one.

Speaker 18 (01:00:34):
I also need to put my truth out here.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Tickus it away.

Speaker 9 (01:00:38):
That's it, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
As easy as you like to get New Zealand.

Speaker 13 (01:00:44):
Home win by two workers.

Speaker 18 (01:00:46):
I can't tell you and expect My Truth, The.

Speaker 17 (01:00:49):
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Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
Twenty six thirteen three Final Quarter tries.

Speaker 18 (01:00:59):
When I when I say my truth, it's my integrity
and actually my truth.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
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Speaker 14 (01:01:19):
Wow?

Speaker 17 (01:01:21):
We want the truth, but it seems Nitball believes we
can't handle the truth. Quite odd really was that Dame
Noling Totra wouldn't know what she's done wrong and there
was no investigation.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Do you believe that? Here's what I took out of it.
I believe there was no investigation because she was unequivocal
in that. I believe that she wasn't told directly. But
what I can't believe is the rest of it. In
my truth, I've got lawyers. I mean, clearly she's been
shut down and there's some sort of NDA and if
you're going to stay, let's will apologize internally or will

(01:01:57):
do whatever's necessary, but don't go back as publicly.

Speaker 17 (01:01:59):
I think that's what even under employment law, wouldn't she
still be told what she has done apparently wrong?

Speaker 13 (01:02:06):
Of course, of course, not just employment law, but common sense.

Speaker 20 (01:02:10):
If you called into a meeting of such gravity and
then not told the reason why you are there, like
you asked her, Mike, what have they been doing for
two months? If not telling her the nature of the
allegations against her. I think we can all put ourselves
in her position and say, if we're called into a
meeting about our employment and told that our employment is

(01:02:34):
under question, in severe risk, and yet not told why
we are even sitting in that room, I mean, I
just don't think most of us can can get our
head around what's going on.

Speaker 17 (01:02:45):
Yeah, well, how the thing is, my teams talk, players talk,
management talk. Should be well.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Aware of who the players were, yes or are that complained?

Speaker 17 (01:02:57):
And I'm sure she'd be this type of coach type
of person that would sit down with those players and say, look,
da da da da da, do you want to play
for me or not? If you don't buger off?

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Sure exactly, yep. But that's the part I can't understand.
And I mean I was going to say, to be
better to interview Jenny Wiley or matt winner Ay. But
the problem is they won't say anything because they've said
nothing through the whole process. But the difficult I mean,
the timeline from February to October, where if you believed
Taro and nothing happened apart from a lot of lawyers

(01:03:25):
and acts, seems the most astonishing mismanagement of a process
I've ever seen.

Speaker 17 (01:03:30):
And the problem, like is that publicly, so many of
these sports into these days, whether it's management, coaches or whatever,
they enter into this corporate babble that no one understands
apart from them and the public, the paying public who
pay their TV subscriptions or pay their game tickets, pay
their wages basically and none the wiser.

Speaker 20 (01:03:50):
Yeah, and it just moves us further and further away
from common sense. Let's just talk like normal adult human
beings here.

Speaker 11 (01:03:59):
Let's just look.

Speaker 13 (01:04:00):
If there's allegations.

Speaker 20 (01:04:01):
Against Dame Nolan Totua, I'd want to know what they are.
Tell me what they are, Let's address them. Let's address
those concerns and then come out and at least at
the very least say yes, there are concerns around her
training's been too tough, or the way she treats players
who have been dropped or whatever it might be.

Speaker 13 (01:04:19):
We're all adults. We can all handle the truth. Ask
the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
I tend to agree. And what I found interesting is,
I mean, I don't know what you do, Andrew in
the sense I wouldn't be back if we take her
at her word and from what we know, I wouldn't
have been back because who wants to work with a
bunch of decads like that?

Speaker 17 (01:04:38):
If it was horrific, that's the word she used then,
And there's no reason to doubt Dame Nolen on that front.
And if it's been handled the way it seems to
have been handled and looks outwardly the way it's been handled,
then you'd be off.

Speaker 13 (01:04:51):
Yeah, yep, why would you want to work for an organization?

Speaker 17 (01:04:54):
And also you can understand why so many leading players
that are going to Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Yeah exactly. Well, I mean there was the reporters last
week about the number of people have left Netball New Zealand,
you know, the people you've never heard of, the comms
team and the pr T marketing team. The churn in
the place apparently is dreadful and it says something. But
the interesting thing about that for me Jason is there's
millions of dollars of taxpayers money goes into the sport.

(01:05:20):
I mean, they are the recipient of taxpayers money. They've
got to be held accountable, don't they they do Yep.

Speaker 20 (01:05:25):
It gives us a stake in it, absolutely, It gives
us a stake in it and a right to at
least expect them to do better than they've done. This
needs to be a cautionary tail. It needs to be
a seminal moment. And I don't know what you do, Mike,
is it? I mean this feels operational to me. So
Totty Wiley, I think is the one who has to

(01:05:46):
at least be under some scrutiny here. It'll go down
as one of the most chambolic chapters in sports administration
in our country.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Agree more and Rayleian Castle. I guess Andrew needs to
answer because she's in charge of the elite end of
the handing out of the lolly. So I don't know
when this I mean, and you know she's got to
have something to say about it. Doesn't mean, you know,
given her netball connections apart from anything else.

Speaker 17 (01:06:09):
Mike is talking to someone over the weekend and another
sport at a high performance live when they said they're
having a high performance get together in a few weeks
of various sports at a high performance level guests where
the meeting is Nitball New Zealand Off.

Speaker 18 (01:06:24):
That person laughed.

Speaker 17 (01:06:25):
That person laughed, same time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Lett some brief break, a whole bunch of other stuff
to cover. Shortly thirteen past the.

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Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
I'll get to the guys. I'll get to the rugby
in just a couple of moments. But real quick, just
let's bolt through this. This is stuff I saw over
the weekend. I just want to know what's going on.
So Jason Auckland f C. I see a bit of
the game, beautiful day, no crowd, what's going on there?

Speaker 13 (01:06:59):
Yeah, it's an extra one.

Speaker 20 (01:07:00):
What they've actually done is they've moved the members over
to the broadcast side.

Speaker 13 (01:07:04):
So when you used to watch on TV, all of
the crowd on the other side was full. That was
the members.

Speaker 20 (01:07:09):
Apparently the members don't like sitting in the sun that
much until they've moved them back over to the other side.

Speaker 13 (01:07:17):
I don't know. Eleven thousand, it's it's fewer than they
would have hoped. I'm sure. Look, is there a bit
of fatigue?

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:07:24):
They're unbeaten good one Derby this week and walling to
look forward to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Do you see the Dodgers yesterday? Andrew?

Speaker 18 (01:07:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:07:31):
I did?

Speaker 14 (01:07:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:07:31):
What a game?

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
How good? I mean.

Speaker 17 (01:07:35):
That the Dodgers were down three to two, they level
at three all, and then we have yesterday's game which
they were down through pretty much the whole game, made
it to the extra innings and then win the game.

Speaker 11 (01:07:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:07:48):
Outstanding sporting drama in theater, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
If you ever want to sell baseball, that's the way
to do it. Just quickly, Andrew, what was your aull
Clameraica a better.

Speaker 17 (01:07:57):
Selling America than rugby makeup?

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Yesterday?

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Yeah? That that is true. I just wondered what was
your marathon time yesterday? Andrew?

Speaker 17 (01:08:07):
I happened to be driving to work over the Harbor
Bridge at the same time as people were slogging up
the bridge, and I did it did into my mind
at one stage, maybe give it a crack next year.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
But then did you Okay, I took a I don't
believe that, But then.

Speaker 17 (01:08:23):
I reached into the breakfast food bag on the passenger's seat.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Another another donut. Now, Jason, this this all Blacks thing.
I actually I've called it four from four and I
think I'm home free now because I don't think they're
going to lose the other three. First half was dreadful.
Second half we sort of came to life and good
Win's a good win, isn't it.

Speaker 20 (01:08:43):
Last twenty minutes were great. First hour, Yeah, there's some
work ons there. Look, I think they came home strong.
They did what all Blacks teams used to do and
that has come over the top of teams in the
last twenty minutes and when with good bench impact. I
think Wallasa Titi had his best test of the year
for one. I actually, yeah, as Andrews said, it's a
hard cell. When it took us twenty minutes to get

(01:09:05):
to the eleventh minute of that game.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
That was embarrassing, not working. I mean, that's a joke.

Speaker 9 (01:09:11):
Was yeah, it was.

Speaker 13 (01:09:12):
Look, I think you'll Blacks were very happy with the win.
You beat Ireland.

Speaker 20 (01:09:15):
That's the first time since twenty thirteen we've beaten Ireland
three Tests.

Speaker 13 (01:09:18):
In a row. So yeah, yeah, yeah, and England.

Speaker 17 (01:09:24):
The Irish are terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Yeah, but who cares when to win? You play, you
play well, let me finish.

Speaker 17 (01:09:30):
The All Blacks were good and like Jason said, I
think it brought back memories of All Black teams of
old with a pounded them in the last twenty The
bench was very good, which has been an issue under
Scott robertson the last year and a half. So I
thought the bench played well. Thought Leicester fining and Nuku
and Quintupai, I think we're going to see that midfield
combo more Fabian Holland clearly he's had this fantastic season

(01:09:53):
and carries on carrying on. And Ardie Savier I thought
was immense as well. So but then I looked at
England against the Alien Mike, and England will be a
stiff challenge. Yes, they're starting to throw the ball around
more and if you watch the Premiership that they're playing
and at the moment that there's been a lot of
attacking rugby, so they'll be a threat.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Okay, but but they're the second one and once it
was Scotland this week will kill them. England were little
the interesting and Wales you know, kick him up the pants,
come on home, Merry Christmas, simple as that.

Speaker 20 (01:10:21):
Yes, it'll be interesting to see what he does against
Scotland selection wise, because it.

Speaker 13 (01:10:25):
Is a potentially as a banana's going if you use that.
They're playing.

Speaker 20 (01:10:28):
Okay, Scotland better than they perhaps have, but I feel
like you've got to play close to your best team
against Scotland, then against England and then Wales should probably
give everybody a run who has it had a lot
of rugby. So yeah, you're right, they're on track for
four from four. I think you know they were down
what thirteen seven? Yes, yesterday they could have lost that
Test match, you know, until they've got some cohesion in

(01:10:49):
the second half and at the back end as well.
I thought, as Andrews said, I think Holland was good.
But Josh lord, you know, off the bench way earlier
than we thought he would be. I haven't seen a
lot of really I thought he really stood up to
could be a seminal moment for Joshua.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Just quickly, Andrew Kane Williamson, I mean this retiring these
days where you retire but you don't really retire. What
what does it mean? He's still around, doesn't he? So
he's not really retired.

Speaker 17 (01:11:13):
Well, he hadn't played, he hadn't played T twenties for
in Z for I think year eighteen months, so I'm
not a great surprise and he'll continue with the odd
one day game. I think. I think Test cricket is
still as ultimate. But then of course like many others,
he'll go around the world and play in T twenty
league exactly very well for himself. Which it's a professional sport.

(01:11:34):
You can't you know, you can't deny the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
That you see the motor racing Jason over the weekend
of all, No, I didn't. Down's beautiful, absolutely fantastic first
of the season under clear blue Sky's nice, big crowd
at Hampton Down. So they come back and janits just absolutely.

Speaker 17 (01:11:48):
Why don't they race the supercars there?

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
It's a good question, size is my is my guess,
and you get a different experience in TAPO. But yeah, no,
it's a it's a it's a fair question. And I
think they're going to and I think there are two
rounds of supercars coming as it next year or the
year after two New Zealand rounds of supercars, and one
of them will be I think at Hampton Downs. But
I'm open to correction on that.

Speaker 17 (01:12:10):
Your job today, Mike is to listen to your own
podcast of the Dame Nole In Interview and try and
work out what's going on that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Hey, I got to find the truth. Yeah, I'm going
to Well, I know my truth. I stand in my
truth here this morning, Jason.

Speaker 17 (01:12:22):
And when I wouldn't trust your truth.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
When you're standing in your truth, you're standing in your truth.
You know you're in your truth. You can swim in
your truth, you can drink in your truth, you can
lie in your truth, but you're in your truth at
all times. You know who? I got it on the
program tomorrow. But of a scoop. You're ready for this, yep,
Liam Lawson on there we go. You can you can

(01:12:45):
have some of these. I'll leave you some of the
taped bits, Jason for your Saturday show and you can
play the homeway.

Speaker 13 (01:12:53):
Here's something I prepared earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Good nice to see Andrew Saville and Jason. Friday twenty two.

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your advice to Susan Lee be? I mean she's hitting
the coalition. Dunton was a disaster, got done like a

(01:14:06):
dinner in the election. She steps up and she's gone
nowhere fast. This morning's poll, the primary vote for the
coalition is down to twenty four. It's their lowest ever
on record since polls began. Not only that, but the Nationals,
which of course make up the coalition, the Lives in
the NAT. The Nats have dumped the twenty fifty, the
Paris Acord. They said there's none this climate change nonsense.
We're not interested in that. They had a meeting over

(01:14:27):
the weekend, they had a vote, So they're telling her
that this morning. So she's stuck between a rock and
a hard place, and Elbow's just laughing all the way
to the third term and the fourth term as far
as the eye can see. Steve Price is in Australia
and he is willis with the Update Children Awfter the News,
which is next during the Mike Hosking.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Rods were out of Britain. And we'll have a poll
from Australia with Stephen Just a couple of moments, but
interesting poll out over the weekend in Britain. Find out
now survey the Greens are beating Labor and the Tories
for the first time ever, so Reformer leading thirty two percent,
but the Greens come second at seventeen with Labor and

(01:15:19):
the Toy is tied on sixteen. How about them numbers
the eight twenty three to.

Speaker 12 (01:15:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Number Steve, how are you morning? Very well, miss miss
Lee wakes up to. I mean, how bad does it
have to get before they do something?

Speaker 9 (01:15:38):
Well?

Speaker 11 (01:15:39):
I call November in politics in Australia the killing season,
and I as will they roller before the end of
the year. On these numbers, you'd have an argument that
they should, but there would be people suggesting let's leave
Susan Lee there. Things are not going to get dramatically worse,
Surely they can't. I'll get the numbers in second, but

(01:16:00):
why not leave her there and we'll wait until you know,
sometime next year. I mean the election was only held
in May, so you know, it's really bad. It's the
worst newspoll coalitions had in forty years. They've hit a
forty year low. Their number is at twenty four percent,

(01:16:20):
Labors at thirty six. But the interesting story is what's
happening elsewhere in Conservative voters and coalition. They're not going
to Labor, They're actually going to places like One Nation.
They're up to fifteen percent. That's a new high number
for them. And if you combine, you know, together Labor
and the Liberal and National Coalition, they're at sixty percent.
So forty percent of Australian voters in this News poll

(01:16:43):
are voting for others. And then those others are One
Nation but also the Teals and other independence. So there
is a real split. It's following what you just mentioned, Michael,
the situation in the UK. That's exactly where we're at here.
Talk of the Libs in that splitting again is back
on the table. The Nationals at the weekend decided to
walk away from a movement to net zero BO twenty fifty.

(01:17:06):
So already the coalition has split on that. The Libs
are still not really come out and said what their
position will be. I wouldn't be surprised if the Coalition
against splits like it did briefly after the election. So
they are in all sorts of trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
In country Australia that I mean, even even Bill Gates
last week said that you know, it's not the it's
not going to wipe out humanity. And he's done the research,
and he's got the money and he's got bigger fish
to fry. So the Net's view of net zero would
actually play well in the country, wouldn't it.

Speaker 11 (01:17:35):
Well, it's very sensible. I mean, farmers are the original
environmentalists and they know that there's climate the climate changes,
that they've lived with it through generations. So all they're
saying is that we are trying to tie our economy
to an ambition that we're never going to get to.
And so they're being realistic about it, and the Liberals

(01:17:55):
should do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
And she's at minus thirty three. C even all Elbow
at minus five, but she's at minus thirty three. Mind you,
I looked at that Joy Division thing last week. Elbow's
t shirt and she had a crack at herm over that.
Now I thought, if that's as sharp as you are,
it's no wonder you're minus thirty three.

Speaker 11 (01:18:13):
Absolutely, I mean it was dumb of him to wear that,
But I mean it's hardably the biggest crime in the world,
and she should be concentrating on three things. On the
issue of the energy policy in this country, the issue
of migration, and the issue of cost of living. That's
all she needs to worry about those three things exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
The Victorians moving to Queensland. It's I mean, it's hardly
surprising as I mean, my daughter, by the way, was
where her partner was in Melbourne over the weekend at
the Oasis show. She hadn't been I think I'm saying
she hasn't been to Melbourne. She was underwhelmed by Melbourne,
she said. She was downtown obviously a lot of shops closed.
It had she said it had a doer sort of
vibe to it. Is she being unfair?

Speaker 11 (01:18:54):
No, she's absolutely correct. I mean, and she saw of
Melbourne at the best of it. I mean the weekend,
whether it was superb, you had the Spring racing Carnival
up and running, the Derby day and you had oasis
in town as well. There was a one day cricket
fixture at the MCG between Australia and India. So she
came to Melbourne on one of those days that Melbourne

(01:19:14):
sadly now only has those things to live off and
that are major events, whether it be the Grand Prix
or the Australian Open, tennis boxing day tests. That's when
Melbourne comes alive. I mean she should be here in
the middle of winter when the only support is watching
kids run around with machetes invading people's houses. And then
to that end, I mean the Hume Highway which runs

(01:19:34):
north towards Sydney and Queensland's Chocolatelock with people leaving. One
Queensland real estate agent at the weekend, this is a
direct quote says his office received hundreds of calls a
week from fed up Victorians looking to escape to the
Gold Coast. Now I'm not sure I'd moved to the
Gold Coast, but I certainly would think about Queensland and
ABS data shows that in the last year twenty three

(01:19:58):
hundred and eighteen more people left the Victoria for interstate
than arrived, and for most other states it's the other
way around, there's more people arriving.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Tell me, because my sister in law goes to Queensland
on a regular basis because she's got a daughter there
at university. She says that it has materially changed. So
once upon a time, Queensland was the poor cousin of
New South Wales and Victoria. You've got a big city
vibe in Victoria and New South Wales. There's a bit
of sophistication about it. Queensland was a bit hogi mai,
as we say in New Zealand. Has that all changed

(01:20:28):
or are people just desperate to get out of Victoria?

Speaker 11 (01:20:30):
Well it's a bit of both. But Queensland has definitely changed.
Brisbane's now rival. Brisband's a better city than Melbourne. I mean,
everywhere's a better city than Melbourne. But Brisbane has come
alive and in the lead up to their Olympic Games,
that is the place to be. I mean, I'm not
a Gold Coast fan, but north of Brisbane up through
the Sunshine Coast to places like Neosa Heads, Queensland's an

(01:20:52):
absolutely exceptional place and its economy is on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Okay. And checking with my daughter and the Melbourne thing,
so she had. I think she had. It was thirty one.
Your place yesterday was twenty four when she was there Saturday.
Today it's supposed to be fifteen. What's the forecast for tomorrow?

Speaker 11 (01:21:07):
Hundred percent rain today in ninety five percent tomorrow. So
the Melbourne Cup day Tuesday, it is going to be wet.
That'll bring into contention a lot of the foreign horses.
But the cup field is always full of foreign horses. Now,
once upon a time you and I could talk and
it was either Australian bread or New Zealand bread horses.
It's now horses from all over the world, as Japanese horses,

(01:21:29):
French horses, an Italian trainer, so there's horses from all
over the world. It's a very hard race to tip,
but I always give you four or five horses for
a box drifector, and I can't go past one smooth operator.
And the only reason I'm tipping that it is it's
not bad odds. It's at fifteen to one because you're

(01:21:50):
a one, you're a smooth operator. So I thought we'd
have to throw one smooth operator in there. J know,
you'll appreciate Bukaroo for our old mate who can win
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. That's on the third
line of the betting at eight dollars, so that's a
real chance it lost the Corfield Cup, I know, so
our mate could pick up that money. I don't know
if anyone's found him yet, but he's in with a

(01:22:10):
real chance. We'll throw in our riffer, which is a
foreign raider, but a real chance too. That's at nine dollars,
Presage Nocturn, and I think we could also throw in
Valiant Kings of Valiant King, Bukaroo, ol riffer, and one
smooth operator in a box strow trick to fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
I'm told that Buckaroo's drawn Lane twelve and that's good news.

Speaker 11 (01:22:36):
Is good news. Middle of the field and if things
get slipper tomorrow a good place to be. They'll still
pack out Flemington. There was eighty thousand people there for
the derby. They'll probably be somewhere between eighteen and one
hundred thousand people there tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Nice stuff, all right, mate, we'll catch up Wednesday. Appreciate it.
Steve Price out of Ustraight your eight forty five.

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Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Banks or some of them anyway, the Australian banks, I
call them Australian banks because they are Australian banks, but
there are banks as well. But the big banks are
reporting it across the Tasman this week. They're expected to
earn thirty billion dollars in profits this financial year. Strong
loan growth. That's happening here too. By the way, people
are out there borrowing money cost cutting, low numbers of
borrow are struggling to repay, so that's a similar sort

(01:23:21):
of story here anyway, Westpac today, National Australian Bank, the
Macquarie Group this week, as well A and Z Commonwealth
Bank next week. If you look at the banking shares
up twenty three percent so for this year, the A
and Z West Packs up eighteen percent. In ab is
up twenty one percent, but thirty billion dollars in profit,
which is an interesting interesting number to pond to give

(01:23:43):
the given the social license of the politicization of banking
in this country. So quarter past one Saturday morning could
have been twenty past one, but let's say between one
to fifteen and one twenty on Saturday morning, phone rings
daughter's locked out, So we said, you're catching a red

(01:24:04):
eye to Melbourne Saturday morning, so getting up at four
thirty and flying across to Melbourne concerts Saturday night, catching
a red eye back yesterday because both her and her
partner had work, and indeed her partner today has an exam,
quite an important one university. So just work that through
for one moment. When they're saying, hey, we're going to Melbourne,

(01:24:25):
and we say something like because we're old, we say
something like, jeez, that sounds like quite a workout. And
what about the exam? What about the work? How are
you going to be feeling, et cetera, et cetera. I
know we'll be fine, so that's fine. They then toss
on top of that just before they get up at
four thirty on Saturday morning. They toss on the toss
and the Halloween party on Friday night, So the Halloween
party to come home at twenty past one, just to

(01:24:48):
get inside too. I don't know, Lord knows what you
do between one thirty and four thirty when you get
up again to go to the airport. But anyway, at
twenty past one, phone rings he has and this is
I mean, who hasn't been there. For goodness sake, the
gym key is not the house key, and that gets
discovered when she goes to put the gym key in
the door, and the gym key doesn't work because it's
the gym key, not the house key, and she doesn't
want to go to the gym she wants to go

(01:25:08):
to the house. Fortunately, we're able to let her in,
so we did that. We weren't there, We're in the country,
so we could do that electronically, so that worked out
quite nicely.

Speaker 10 (01:25:16):
Well in that case, surely the jim key can be
the house key.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Could be. I don't know, but at one twenty, I
don't know what key's what anyway, So then she rings
it back at four thirty, rings again at four thirty.
She goes, tells us she's on the way to the
airport and we're going what She goes, Oh, did you
not get up? Did you go back to sleep? Did
you go back to sleep after I rung you at
one thirty? What did she think you were doing?

Speaker 16 (01:25:37):
Playing beer pong?

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Wouldn't have a clue, wouldn't have a clue. So by
the time they got home yesterday m and then had
to go to work until eleven o'clock last night, only
to get up this morning to be in the exam
of their life. We can only see those are the days,
those those are the days. It went from Katy and
I were going, oh, you know, youth, young kids, they

(01:25:58):
got so much energy. They too like this is just
a horrific mistake and when the results come through, it's
going to be a disaster. We can see it coming
a mile away, nine away from nine the make.

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you repeat the Melbourne cup box trifecta? No, I can't,
But you can go to go to our website and
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you'll be able to hear everything you need to know.
Five minutes away from nine trending.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
I'm excited about Scotus later on this week. This is
the t tariff case with the Supreme Court. I'm also
excited about the mirror vote on Wednesday. Our time this
is Mindami Cuomo. There's the other guy in there, but
he doesn't count. So depending on who you're listening to
at this last minute stage, we got holds that have
Mandamie up by eleven to thirteen. I think it's bull
gone conclusion. The New York Post poll out this morning

(01:28:05):
has him up by six, which gets a little bit
close to the margin of era, but really it's over.
But there's a lot of the Upper East Side say
that if Mandamie wins, because he wants to top the
text one percent, text of the top one percent, a
whole lot more. If Mandami wins, they're off. So based
on that, the Boca Ratan Maya Scott Singer has put
out his plea for those in New York.

Speaker 16 (01:28:25):
Boca Raton's are pretty built out city with one hundred
thousand people, but business strength of a much larger city.
So we're being focused on the job creators, innovators and
C suite executives. We don't expect everyone to be able
to find a home in Boca Ratone, but we expect
a number of companies to continue their exodus out of
New York City to our great economic climate where we
are the economic engine of Palm Beach County, President Trump's

(01:28:47):
home county.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
People have been happy that we.

Speaker 16 (01:28:49):
Have the lowest property tax rate of any full service
city in Florida and no state income tax. Contrast that
with what Mom Donnie's proposing, a seventeen percent marginal state
and city rate.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
No wonder why.

Speaker 16 (01:29:00):
Job creators have been calling and looking to prepare in
advance of Tuesday's election, and I expect you'll be getting
a lot more calls in additionable ones we've gotten since June.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
That is real because during COVID, a lot of New
York moved to Florida and a lot of California moved
to Texas. So if Mondamie wins, and as I say,
I think it's more gone conclusion, then there will be
more where that came from. There are billboards and Times
Square at the moment advertising the wonders of Buck Bucker return.
That is us for the day Monday morning, and as

(01:29:30):
I say, Liam Lawson, after eight o'clock tomorrow morning, Mike
Hosking exclusive, so it'll be good to catch up ahead
of the race. Weekend. This coming weekend, I assume you
will be in South America and your joints US look
forward to your company from six as always, Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
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