Full Show Podcast: 21 November 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
And welcome to day new crime under that shows things
are getting better. Police now believe they gotten up to
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the International Startlers Point Paski Friday morning, seven past six.
Would we be asking the questions of Richard Chambers Police
Commissioner if we hadn't been dealing with mix skimming and

(00:36):
costa and co Now. Chambers, from my dealings with him,
is exactly the sort of person who the police need
leading them. He is one of those appointments, when it's made,
you get it, Unlike Coster's appointment. When it was made
you saw a dun Fingerprints all Labert in history shows
how that worked out. From all his actions so far,
he not only had to write the direction of the
police broadly, but tidy up a god awful mess that
if you believe headlines are shaking the public's faith in

(00:57):
the entire force. Now I don't actually believe that for
a moment. Police at fifteen thousand strong are not rotten.
The same way the bad apple in a corporate doesn't
mean the whole business stinks. But as a result of
the mess, Chambers felt it necessary to share the speeding
ticket news one hundred and twelve, which as far as
I know was actually one hundred and eleven. Not that
that excuses it. It just keeps getting misreported. And then
he's down Oriental Parade with Cash Pattel having a dip

(01:20):
while there's a tsunami warning. Now he thought the tsunami
warning was lifted. It wasn't. He had to bring the
appropriate people and say sorry. And then he's in front
this week of the Parliamentary Committee having his Minister Mark
Mitchell heap praise on him as well he might. The
point being are we micro analyzing people in public life?
And if we are, is it useful? And if it isn't,
which I doubt it is, do we put people off

(01:41):
going for top jobs in the public service? Can you
be a decent operator and completely innocent or incident free?
Is any of us completely incident free is one hundred
and eleven cays even a thing? I mean, may a
copper I go one hundred and eleven every weekend in
the country, probably more a lot of people do. Do
I take tsunami warning seriously?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Know?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Do I take atmospheric river warning seriously?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I mean New Zealand ivery acts to most things driven
by the digital media who live for clicks. So there
you go. I doubt I'll be a police commissioner. What
I also know, as it can't be bothered with the
myopic gawking over matters of little or no importancy. Chambers
is clearly a more patient man than I am. But
as I say, he seems the real deal and the
man for the job. How about we let him get
on with it and give the nonsense arrest.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
So let's start with the growing euro angst over the
so called plan between the White House and Plutan, who
were in the war. The Brits a little bit cool
on it.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
President Zelensky is ready for an immediate saste fare. The
UK supports him in that initiative. It is President putin
the current line of contact should be the starting point
of negotiations, and we remain committed to the principle that
international borders must not be changed by.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Force, as indeed are the free.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Discussions should start with a ceasefire under contact line that
allow for negotiation, under question of territories, under question of
security guarantees. We have said that, the US have said that.
President Trump has said.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
That back in Britain, and Ms Marmoud has outlined what
she's been promising for Dazebra asylum seekers.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
Those who speak English to a degree level standard could
qualify for a nine year path to settlement. Those paying
the higher rate of tax could qualify at five years,
while those on the top rate could qualify after three tours.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Of course, are going hold on.

Speaker 7 (03:27):
The Labor Party inexplicably voted against those measures here just
a few months ago, and now they've adopted them.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
A couple of things in the States. Firstly, now that
he travels back, thanksgiving us close some travel advice. Be nice,
say please say thank you.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Let's maybe go back to an era where we didn't
wear our pajamas to the airport. We actually might dress
up a little bit.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
And if someone needs help putting their luggage up in
the Opera had been help them out.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
God bless them and Nessa given their back at work
as well. They've been able to come out and put
our minds at risk over anyone at Las. I know
you've been worry you won't believe it. You won't believe it.
It wasn't Aliens broth.

Speaker 8 (04:04):
They'd like to address the rumors. This object is a comet.
It looks and behaves like a comet and has and
all evidence points to it being a comet. But this
one came from outside the Solar system. NASA was in
a period where we couldn't speak about it due to
the recent government shutdown.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Finally, France is continuing to push against social media and AI,
specifically groch this Morning, which is Elon's baby. The claim
Grock made anti cinemitic comments denied that the Holocaust happens.
So the Paris public Prosecutors' officers as well as the
League for Human Rights are investigating that one. He used
the World of ninety foy do I have used out
of America this morning? Andrew will do the jobs numbers.
They're back at work, so they pumped out those they

(04:38):
were good. Walmart came to the party. They're good as well.
So shopers are still spending. They raise their sales and
earnings outlook, so that's good. This is all grist to
the Trump mill, of course, and they're now forecasting what
they call this is what we've talked about on the program.
This K shaped divide in the economy, two track economy,
holidays spending. They think three point seven to four point two.
It'll bust through a trillion for the first time. And

(05:01):
if you don't have any money, don't worry. You'll go
into debt to do it. Amazing. Ah twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
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Speaker 2 (05:16):
Tell you what if you want to see a good
economic story. Denmark two point three percent for the third quarter.
What drove it? Novo Nordisk get on the glps. Not
only do you lose weight, but your economy grows fourteen
pass I can't see right, I'm sure in partners Andrew Kellah,
good morning, very good morning, Mike. Tell you what it's
all well, They got jobs galore in videos, printing chips

(05:37):
like this note tomorrow. What will we all worried about? Mike?

Speaker 9 (05:40):
Everything is awesome?

Speaker 10 (05:42):
Or is it?

Speaker 9 (05:44):
Now, so let's talk Shall we talk about in video first?
Shall we do the in video thing? So in video
earnings release, after we spoke, record revenue fifty seven billion,
that's up twenty percent from Q two, up sixty two
percent from a year ago.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
That is an outstanding statistic.

Speaker 11 (05:59):
This come.

Speaker 9 (06:00):
He was always already going gangbusters. Now it's going like
mega gangbusters.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
The gross margins also improved.

Speaker 9 (06:06):
Record data center revenue fifty one point two billion. That's
grown rapidly as well. And if you wanted a bullish statement,
then CEO and founded Gents of One. He delivered it
to you on a plate, he said, Blackwell Sales, that's
their main that the new chip. They are off the charts.
Cloud GPUs are sold out. Compute demand keeps accelerating. It's
compounding across training and inference, and each is growing exponentially.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
He reckons, rather than a bubble. We have now get this,
he reckons, We've now entered the.

Speaker 9 (06:35):
Virtuous cycle of AI. Wow, the yeah, the ecosystem is
scaling fast. And the final statement, and this is when
you start to wonder, have we lost the plot here?
AI is going everywhere, doing everything all at once that
you might drop moment, isn't it so? Setting aside that
the results to beat Wall Street estimates, I'm just a

(06:57):
few things yesterday that we once look at.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
One was the outlook. The outlook was all so better
than expected.

Speaker 9 (07:01):
Fourth quarter revenue now expected that sixty five billion versus
sixty two billion. On the investor call, the CFO said
that the half of the company's long term opportunity will
come from customers transitioning to accelerated computing general if AI.
They talked about China, they didn't quite get the sizeable
purchase orders they were wanted to from China because the

(07:21):
geopolitical orders. Huang also spoke to AI bubble. He addressed
it directly. He doesn't see it, that's unsurprising. He said
that the key thing, he said, these traditional essential functions,
so like data processing, search systems. They are all transitioning
from old CPUs to nuance.

Speaker 11 (07:40):
So this is the key thing.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
What they're saying is that the whole infrastructure around the world.

Speaker 9 (07:44):
Everything will all have to move to these to new CPUs.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
What else can I say?

Speaker 9 (07:51):
Everybody's going to need all these agentic applications that all
all need more processing power. So the share price was
up but we've seen some really interesting stuff going on.
The last half hour MIC that markets were up, and
of course the Nvidia share price rallied five percent after
this came out after ours. The Nasdaq is now down,
and it would now look like people are saying, well,
the sort of skeptics are ruling and saying, well, hey,

(08:13):
is the bubble still there. The other thing going on
in the background MIC, which I think is quite interesting
bitcoin Bitcoin is falling precipitously. It's now down, and I'm
just wondering, there's just kind of like this risk off
issue that we're seeing seems to be gaining a little
bit of a little bit of momentum.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
So I think it's the.

Speaker 9 (08:33):
Rest of the week. We've still got another day before
the end of the week. Of the years, it's still
going to be quite an interesting time.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Right, What do we make of these jobs? Because the
unemployment rate actually went under. The number was all right,
wasn't it. Yeah, it kind of mixed. So this is September.

Speaker 9 (08:44):
I'm surround it's better than expected, so a positive surprise,
but as I say, I think it's a little bit
it's a little bit inconclusive. So one hundred and ninety
thousand new jobs added. That was better than expected. Unemployment
rate ticked up to four point four percent. Expectations they're
fifty k and four point three percent, but julyn all
was revised lower. The unimportant rate went up because more
people joined the workforce. There's a whole bunch of weekly

(09:07):
jobless claim.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Numbers released as well.

Speaker 9 (09:08):
They seem to show the government shutdown didn't generate a
spike in jobless claims. I'm not sure this report makes
the fair decision any easier. Normally, by the they make
that decision in December, Normally, by then they will also
have the October and November jobs numbers.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I don't think they're going to get them.

Speaker 9 (09:25):
And the other thing in the background you mentioned it
like walmart excellent earnings, which speaks to the economy and
consumer spending actually doing okay, So I think their job
possibly got a little bit tougher.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, we got todd on shortly, but give us a
quick word on Turner's.

Speaker 9 (09:39):
Beat expectations of a record result. They thought they were
going to get a record result. They did better than
that net profit thirty point four million, despite subdued consumer conditions.
When revenue can't quite remember the exact number that it
was up to yet two net profit after tax up
thirteen percent.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Look, basically it was a great result. And Tina's still there,
gunna guarante.

Speaker 9 (10:02):
What are the numbers well as we speak, and these
are changing around rapidly. The dal Jones is now down
two hundred and forty points, that's half a percent forty
five thousand, nine hundred and seven. The S and P
five hundred is down point two percent sixty six two eight,
and the Nasdaq is down about one percent.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
And it was up quite it was.

Speaker 9 (10:20):
Looking good earlier in the seven now down two hundred
and twenty four points twenty two thousand, three hundred and
forty one. Er said Bitcoin is now at about eighty
seven thousand. That was at one hundred and twenty six
thousand back in October. The foot Sea overnight gained point
two percent twenty points nine five two seven. The NICKA
was up two point sixty five one thousand, two hundred

(10:41):
and eighty six points forty nine thousand, eight two four.
The Shanghai Composite lost point four three nine three one.
The Aussis yesterday had a good day, but that was
after the video result one point two four percent gain
up one hundred and five points eight thousand, five hundred
and fifty two. And we joined the party yesterday on
the n six fifty up point eight four one hundred
and twelve points thirteen zosy four to three ninth ki

(11:02):
we point five to six. It hasn't really moved point
five to six oh four against the US point eight
six seventy five against the Ossie, it's a bit sad point.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Four eight six. So against the Euro, what do you say?
What do you say?

Speaker 9 (11:18):
Zero point four to eighty three against the quid eighty
eight point three Oh Japanese yen gold four fifty nine
dollars and one thing's behaving itself. That's break croup. Yes,
sixty three dollars and fifty nine to have a good.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Weekend, mate. Andrew Kella has Sure and partners Pascuest in
the business. Goodman Property came to the party. The trust
is now hunting new properties and deals. They got a
good results, so that's good my food bag not bad,
I mean slight increase in revenue. Profit was down as
a smidge A two upgraded their guidance good aft that's
maxa Jesus they don't seem affected by the American revenues,

(11:50):
of course, but net profit is up. Revenue was up,
underlying profit was up, so that all seems good. So
some good solid results there, six twenty one and a
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Speaker 1 (12:06):
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Speaker 10 (12:11):
At me.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I'm going to say it's a little bit disappointed yesterday, Mike.
It's about time Winston started having more respect for the voters.
If he causes another swing to the left like he
did last time, the country has ruined. James, I don't
think he caused the swing to the left. It was COVID.
We were myopic and a whole lot of people lined
up and went, oh that just then does lovely fifty
percent later the year go Mike, Winston's early election posturing
will mean the end of Hipkins and speed up the

(12:33):
rolling of Luxon in favor of Bishop. It all needs
to happen quickly, though. See this is the sort of
stuff we get into. Can we just I mean more
to say later on, but this this business. We've got
Winston on the program at seven thirty, that this business
of not understanding how om MP works never ceases to
amaze me. Thirty years on, we are still falling for it.
Herald headlined yesterday bombshell, what a load of crap? All

(12:59):
he said was he going to campaign to repeal something?
First question wasn't asked? First question? Is it a bottom line?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
No, it isn't.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Therefore it's a non story. It's a nothing. He can
campaign on whatever he wants. Seymour can campaign on whatever
he wants, Labor can campaign on whatever they want. The
Greens can do the same. That's how MMP works, for
God's Sake, six twenty.

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Speaker 12 (13:32):
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Speaker 2 (13:35):
Rebing of District twelve.

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Speaker 14 (13:57):
It's time.

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Speaker 2 (14:15):
They always took like I think these games are going
to be different. This is weird ass. I saw one
Hunger Games. I can't remember which one it was. I'm
assuming it was the original. It was crap, so I
never went back, but I didn't think they all took
like that anyway. Joseph Zada and mc kenna Grace, they're
the new leading actors. Ray Fines is in there, Glenn close.
She looks that Kim Kardashian show. What's it called all
of Us? Yeah, she looks shocking, and that's with heavy

(14:39):
makeup and the whole thing. Karen Culkin's in there, Ali Fanning,
Jesse Plemons. Trailers out today. We've just played it for you.
Guess when the movie's out twentieth and November. No, not yesterday,
in a year's time, this time next year. How mad
is that? Cost of Thanksgiving dinner? Speaking of the value
of New Zealand currency, cost of Thanksgiving dinner in America,

(15:00):
I'll give you some numbers just before Richard Arnold this morning.
It's getting cheaper by the day. More gris to Trump's
Mill Newsnext.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
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Speaker 2 (15:21):
The Epstein papers, the official but has been done, the
y ink has been inked, and that in the Chiney
funeral with Richard Arnold shortly meantime at twenty three to seven.
If you're looking for positive business news, Turners can help us.
Andrew alluded to check their record twenty one point nine
million dollar profit. It's up thirteen percent. This is for
the six months two September. Surely there's more to it
than just Tina. Todd Hunter is the CEO and is

(15:42):
with us. Morning Todd, Good morning Mike. Is this your
story or is it the broader industry story? In other words,
if you're in finance and cars, everyone's doing well. No,
I would not say that.

Speaker 16 (15:53):
I would say this is a Turner's story very much.

Speaker 10 (15:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (15:57):
I think three of our largest divisions are out I've
focused on that auto market and have done very well,
and I'm looking forward to seeing what this team can
do in better economic conditions.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Do you think there are better economic conditions coming? Are
you one of those who is bullish?

Speaker 16 (16:12):
Yeah, I'm positive about the outlook. I mean is a
question around the speed of their recovery, but it's going
to happen for sure.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
The advertising for Tina two point are you spent a
lot on in advertising? Does that tell us that advertising
works or is there just something magical about Tina.

Speaker 16 (16:27):
Advertising works. For sure, there is a real brand story
around Tina. She's resonated beyond our wildest dreams. So here's
a little bit of magic in the air. But for sure,
if you spend in the right areas and do the
right things, you can get you can get a return
from that.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Absolutely, finance is your biggest growth engine. So what does
that tell me about financing stuff for people bullish to borrow?

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Is that the story? You know?

Speaker 16 (16:51):
I wouldn't say that. I would say we've taken a
good chunk of market share, which is really driven the
growth in our finance division. So yeah, again, we're just
looking forward to when the economy is really starting to
harm and what that business can do because there is
so much opportunity ahead of us.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
And what are you doing? On cars? Are people buying
more cars or better cars or they're just buying the
cars they have to buy and they happen to be
from you.

Speaker 16 (17:16):
That is the great thing about the used car market.
Might people people need to buy cars because they break down,
their circumstances change, they need a bigger way, a smaller one,
whatever it might be. I mean, that market is just
so resilient and yeah, we've we've obviously got a strong
place in that market, and yeah, plenty of opportunities still
left for us.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
That importan levy move by the government this week. I'm
assuming that affects you. Is that the right move from
the government.

Speaker 16 (17:42):
Absolutely, Yeah, it's the right move. It's the right move
to help improve the quality of the fleet. You've never
seen it age quicker than it has in the last
sort of three or four years. With that, with those
regulations in place. So why wouldn't it make sense to
replace a twenty three year old car with a ten
year old car. I mean the emissions on those cars

(18:03):
are going to be significantly less, so it is a.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Good thing, indeed, but they're replacing it with What does
it matter to you with what they replace it with?

Speaker 3 (18:12):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 16 (18:13):
I mean more transactions in the market are good for
our business, whether it's the twenty three year old car
leaving the fleet or the new car being bought. That
those increase in transactions is very good for us.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Are you on the up and up?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Do I have to get your back every quarter with
another record? Is that we were heading?

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Todd?

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (18:32):
Well, look, I mean this business has performed exceptionally well
for more than a decade now. We've grown profits, growing dividends.
So yeah, we still feel like there's a significant trajectory
head for us. So I'd love to come back, Mike
and keep talking to you about Turner's's my favorite subject.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I could only have a good weekend. Tod Hunt's the
CEO of Turner's Automotive revenue plus five EBITs plus ten
profit plus three as I said, so it's all a
good news story and good on them. Nineteen to seven.

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Speaker 1 (20:20):
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Speaker 2 (20:27):
Good morning, good one, you want, I said, farewell to
mister Cheney.

Speaker 14 (20:30):
Yeah, the memorial service is just concluding. But as it
was getting underway at the National Cathedral in Washington. One
Democrat quipped, whoever would have thought that in the mega
Republican divorce the Dems would get Dick Cheney. That speaks
to how much politics has changed since Cheney was in office.
In his day, Cheney course was viewed as polarizing strident.
Darth vegas Son called him that. In twenty twenty four,

(20:53):
the one time vice president of George W. Bush and
one time Defense chief Congressman Youngesta have a presidential chief
of staff. All of that declared he would be voting
not for Donald Trump but for Kamala Harris. The reason,
he said, was his devotion to the US Constitution. And
so it is that at this service, attended by the
living former presidents Biden, Clinton, and Bush and Vice Presidents

(21:14):
Al Gored dan Quayle and Mike Pence, Trump did not
take part. He was not invited. A markedly older George W.
Bush has spoken he's seventy nine now, and he talked
of cherishing his partnership and friendship with Channing. Some might
say it's rob Bush of some of his independents at
the time.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
George W.

Speaker 14 (21:31):
Also described the notorious moment when Cheney was head of
the Vice Presidential Search Committee and came up with his
own name as.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
The person best qualified for the job.

Speaker 14 (21:41):
There was a little more to it, said Bush.

Speaker 17 (21:43):
Before I made my decision, he insisted on giving me
a complete rundown of all the reasons I should not
choose him. He also heard one of my top advisors
was against the choice, so Dick invited him to make
the case.

Speaker 14 (21:57):
Also speaking was Pete Williams for Age, former Pentagon spokesman,
who related a story he says Cheney loved. At a
time when he was out in his home state of
Wyoming campaigning for another term in the US House.

Speaker 16 (22:10):
He said he walked up to one old rancher, stuck
out his hand and said, I'm Dick Cheney.

Speaker 10 (22:13):
I'm running for Congress and i'd like to have your vote, And.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
The rancher replied, you got that guy. We got in there.
Now is no damn good.

Speaker 14 (22:22):
Cheney's longtime cardiologist also has spoken, doctor Jonathan Raymer, who
downplayed his talent for eulogy, saying.

Speaker 18 (22:30):
No one wants a doctor who's great at funerals.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Good point.

Speaker 14 (22:35):
Cheney had his first heart attack at age thirty seven,
then four more heart attacks, and then he underwent a
heart transplant, passing away at age eighty four. His daughter
Liz Cheney has concluded the memorial service with white politics
aside now becomes I guess the man's central theme.

Speaker 18 (22:51):
Though he was inspired to service by President Kennedy, Dick
Cheney became a Republican, but he knew that bonds of
party must always yield to the single bond we share
as Americans.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
For him, a.

Speaker 18 (23:08):
Choice between defense of the Constitution and defense of your
political party was no choice at all.

Speaker 14 (23:15):
Words that are far too rare today.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
So what are we doing? We wipe for the Dejoe?

Speaker 10 (23:19):
Now?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Is that what's happened?

Speaker 11 (23:20):
I guess what next?

Speaker 14 (23:22):
In the Epstein scandal, Trump has signed into effect the
far release legislation he works so furiously to kill. If
Trump want of the files out in the open, he
could release them at any time immediately. Instead, this bill
gives the Gustus Department thirty days to responded. It off
as a loophole, saying they can block anything that could
affect an ongoing investigation. Well, Trump just surprised opened an

(23:43):
investigation into the involvement with Epstein of Democrats alone, so
they could be used to block much of the files.
Senate Democratic leader Schumap says this is.

Speaker 18 (23:52):
Not an invitation for Donald Trump to pick and choose
his version of the truth.

Speaker 14 (23:55):
Still, many think this is what will happen and Trump's
at in a general Pam Bondi was asked.

Speaker 12 (24:01):
What changed since stent that you lights's investigation information that
has come for information, there's information that new information.

Speaker 14 (24:12):
How convincing is that?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
A good week? Richard Arnold state poll out from Fox
He's underwater Trump. Seventy six percent of voters via the
economy negatively. They blame both the President and Biden for
the current state of the economy the shutdown. Once again,
they blame both science. Overall, forty one percent approve of
the job Trump is doing, fifty eight percent disapproved. That's

(24:35):
the underwater bit. Forty percent of Americans say their personal
finances are excellent or good, but sixty percent say they're
fair or poor. Job ratings on foreign policies underwater there
as well. Forty three percent approve, fifty five percent disapprove
eleven to seven.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
The like Hosking, Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, communities news
dogs head been.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Other quick things on the states. They had the numbers
out for August yesterday, closed down and all that sort
of stuff. So trade has shrunk early days on the tariffs.
But this is starting to get an early read on
the tariffs, and basically it's killing trade. In other words,
people don't sell and America doesn't buy. The upsiders and
the spinning'll put on it is. The trade deficit is shrunk,
and that's always been one of his big deals. But

(25:18):
it's very easy to have no trade deficit if you
don't do any business. So business is down because of trade. Meantime,
they're giving a loan two three Mile Islands, not called
three Mile Island anymore, but nevertheless aregain to fire up
this crane clean energy. It's a billion dollar loan to
crank up three mile or what was three Mile Island
Unit one, unit two, you know the story back from

(25:38):
nineteen seventy nine. Anyway, this is the future of power.
Of course, I try to tell you this and no
one listens. But nuclear is where it's at. If you
want to run data centers, NAI and all the other
power and energy sapping services that were so obsessed by
you need nuclear power. They've worked that out in America.
So three mile Islands back up and running. A number
of Senators want to have a look at Trump's crypto
as well. This is the that's run by ERICN. Donald

(26:02):
and Baron. I didn't know Baron was involved, but they've
been doing some business allegedly with some Russians and some
North Koreans, and so they need to have a wee
look at that and see what's going on. Mike, I'm
sick and tired of Winston's nonsense. Just when you think
he's becoming a bit of a statesmen, he burns down
the barn, just spitballing. But if Winston drops dead before
the next election, what happens to New Zealand first support.

(26:23):
It's an interesting question. I'm not suggesting he's going to
drop dead, and I'm not suggesting you, but I looked
at him yesterday and he doesn't. I mean to say
he doesn't look well is unfair. He looks eighty. I mean,
most eighty year olds look eighty, but most eighty year
olds aren't on a plane every second day. And he's
off to China for drinks with the Chinese and the
ship builders next week. And he's on a plane permanently
circling the world, and it's not good for your health

(26:43):
being permanently on a plane. And he looked tired yesterday,
he looked tired. He looked warm down, which is not
ter innegrate him in any way, shape or form. It's
just to say, I hope he's got a succession plan.
Five minutes away from seven the.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
In and the ouse. It's the fizz with business Fiber.
Take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
As he's with us at seven thirty this morning. I
see what I'm looking to do with Winston this morning
is elevated the discussion. So forget your regulatory standard thing.
I'm trying to elevate the discussion and talk about MMP,
the environment and rumors, speculation, backstabbing. I just I'm not
up for a whole year of this bullshit. I'm really
not into it. We've got to be a bit more

(27:25):
adult and sophisticated about this, and so I'll give that
a crack at seven thirty Sea.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
How it goes?

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, sorry, the ins and the outs.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's the Fiz with business Fiber, take your business productivity to.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
The next boardroom News twenty five, twenty twenty five Directors
Sentiment Survey fifty five percent of directors expect the economy
to improve over the next twelve months, which is up
from fifty two, which is up from twenty eight and
twenty twenty three. So we're on the move. Highest level
of optimism actually since the survey began in twenty fourteen,
it's only up a bit from last year, so that's
what we're seeing or looking at the continuation of improvement

(27:58):
rather than some sort of weird, sudden wholesale change. Now
those are so the economies going backwards have dropped from
twenty eight down to eighteen. Most of those people have
moved into the neutral camp. Shareholder activisms and increasing issue
forty four percent of those surveys, so they expect activism
to have a moderate or high impact on boards. But
there's a contrast to your distinct contrast between public and
private business directors and local authorities thirty three percent MARI

(28:22):
organization's twenty three percent, government organizations twenty one anticipate shareholder
or member activism to have a high impact on their
boards over the next couple of years. By contrast, only
nine percent of large private companies, eight percent of not
for profits, and nine percent of the smalls just two
percent of publicly listed directors say the same, so that
part's encouraging, I guess also encouraging. This morning, we've got

(28:44):
more of these stats out around violent crime. There's still
a tremendous number of people in this country that are
the victims of serious violent crime, but the numbers are
down and down significantly. So that's your good news. So
we'll talk to the Justice Minister about this river. The
story is this morning the police claim. I don't think
it's the police saying it publicly. I think it's Nigel Hampton,

(29:06):
the lawyer who's saying it, but he got it from
the police, so we've got him on to talk about it.
They claim they've got the evidence to lay some charges
for prosecution, so the big question is will they And
given the time, I mean, how big a risky you're
running on that one A So Nigel Hampton with us,
Tim and Katie we'll do the Week after eight.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
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can't miss. It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender,
Embraced the impossible news, Tom's dead bank.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Seven past seven. Good news if that's the right phrase
on violent crime. We've got one hundred and forty seven
thousand victims of serious violent crime in the twelve months
to August, but that is a drop of thirty eight
thousand in the time of the government. Basically, it's a
drop of nine thousand in the last quarter alone. Also marks,
of course, one year since the gang laws came in,
one hundred and eighty two patches seized, two hundred and

(29:57):
fifty five charges. Late Justice Minister pull Goldsmith is with
us is good morning, good morning. These numbers, one hundred
and forty seven thousand victims are still a stunning number
of victims, absolute absolutely.

Speaker 19 (30:08):
But we came in twenty three with one hundred and
eighty five thousand New Zealand as being a victim of
serious violent crime or sexual offending. That's far too many.
That's so we set a goal of getting it down
to one hundred and sixty five by twenty twenty nine.
The good news is we've almost doubled that in a
short period of time. But you're right, one hundred and
forty seven thousand people are still too many, and that's

(30:29):
why we're determined to go much further.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
So, given these numbers, what's your level of satisfaction.

Speaker 19 (30:34):
Well, I'm pleased that we're making progress as a country
because you know, there's thirty eight thousand fewer victims of crime.
That's thirty eight thousand families that don't have to go
through the trauma and horror of dealing with violent crime.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
So that's a huge one.

Speaker 19 (30:46):
But like I say, we're not going to rest in
our laurels because now we want New Zealanders to feel
safe in their community and in their homes. And there
was a huge amount to do, but we're making good progress.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
And so you're making progress, how longeste instances you're simply
taking the people who were committing the crime and locking
them up or not, there's an element of that.

Speaker 19 (31:04):
I mean, the obvious place to start is with that
very small group of New Zealanders who create the most
victims over and over and again, which is why we've
targeted the gangs. Less than a quarter of one percent
of adult New Zealanders are in gangs, but they're associated
with nearly twenty five percent of the violent crime, So
good place to start. That's why we did the three strikes,
you know, lock up the most serious repeat offenders. That's
why we've toughened up the sentencing regime to reduce the
amount of discounts that judges can offer.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
So yes, that's part of it.

Speaker 19 (31:27):
And also it's about sending a clear message. You know,
the previous government was all about, you know, a culture
of excuses. It wasn't your fault, it was society's fault.
It was something else's fault. We've changed that message.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Having having said that, is this like perception in health?
So health, You've never spent more in health, but the
perception of health is still broken. Is it the same
with crime and justice? It doesn't matter what you do,
somebody somewhere is going to say you're failing.

Speaker 19 (31:51):
Well, look, I mean people are naturally right. But when
you look at the overall concerns that New Zealanders have
when we were campaigning two years ago, crime was numb,
the two or three on the list of things that
people worried about. It's much lower now because I think
we've the public and see we're making good progress. But
they want us to keep that momentum up because there's
much more to do.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
All right, appreciate it. You have a good weekend. Justice
Minister Paul Goldsmith Nment's Past seven as we mark the
fifteenth anniversary of Pike Riddle this week, we hear that
police have decided they believe they got enough evidence to
lay manslaughter charges. The alleged act of gross negligence were causative,
which meets the threshold for manslaughter. Nigel Hampton Casey is
the criminal defense lawyer of course, representing the families and

(32:31):
is with us Nigel Mourning morning. Now, I can't work
out where this is coming from the police saying this
publicly or are you saying this publicly because you got
it from the police.

Speaker 15 (32:41):
I'm saying it publicly because I've had information given me
through the police and I want to try and exert
pressure as much as I can to have some decision
made by the crownsholst in Wellington as to whether the
police view that prosecution and are justified on the evidence

(33:01):
they've obtained, whether that viewer is going to prevail all
the Crown are going to back down.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
What's your gut?

Speaker 3 (33:08):
My gut is.

Speaker 15 (33:10):
That the Crown will do something, but it may not
be all that is desired. On behalf of the primarily
the two women that I've been acting for, Anna and.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Sonya, what's that mean? What's doing something mean?

Speaker 15 (33:23):
Well, that's where I run into difficulty talking publicly about
that aspect. Might because I've made some I've been given
some fumbational on a confidential basis, and I can't I
can't disturb that confidence.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yet, no problem at all. Are you bullish on it? Though?

Speaker 15 (33:46):
Half knacking.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
My problem? Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just an
interested observer of all of this over the years. Is
that it's like fifteen years, a long time delay, a charge,
memories evidence. You know, it's a big it's a big hurdle.

Speaker 15 (34:05):
Look, it is a big hurdle. The delay totally unacceptable.
I mean back in the end of the Royal Commission
back in twenty thirteen, the evidence of gross negligence was there,
way back then. It was a matter from the police
point of view. At that stage they backed off because
partner the Labor Works Safe, We're going to prosecute all

(34:29):
under the Health and Safety Act. That was illegally bought off.
That prosecution. The police there and didn't do anything much
until re entry was gained. Then they got the further
evidence that made that causative link that had been lacking
the causative link between the gross negligence, the explosion and
the desk that had to be obtained if there was

(34:49):
going to be a successful prosecution. It's taken a long
time to complete that investigation. Lots more boreholes, lots more
scientific research. It's been so I understand that painstaking. But
now to have they reached the view the police reached
the view on their materials about a year ago, and

(35:12):
that becomes unacceptable that extra delay.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Is it political?

Speaker 15 (35:20):
Not overtly, I wouldn't suggest that, but the Crown will
always weigh up those sort of factors, external factors and
coming to the view whether the evidence is sufficient and
secondly whether it's in the public interest. And delay enters
into the public interest arena as well, the fact the

(35:41):
sort of factors you mentioned will enter into it, the
long period of delay, the effective memories, people disappear, all
that and evidence degrades.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, exactly, all right, that what's your best with it?
To take care. Nigel Hampton Casey, criminal defense lawyer, thirteen
minutes past seven. One of my favorite people, biggest brain
you've ever met. Morning, Mike. I agree with you. Hoping
for a serious and issues based election year. The noisy
hysteria is ruining political debate. If we can only hope
fingers crossed, I hold out little hope, but we can

(36:12):
only hope. I could you ever tried deep pride turkey.
It's an American thing. I thought I'd hate it, but
it's honestly the best turkey you can ever have. I
don't think you can have good turkey for saying, and
I don't eat deep fried food. The other thing is,
don't I sound like a snob? I don't eat deep
pros such a snob. Just one Australian winery has made
the world's Top fifty list and they are angsting like

(36:33):
there's no angst in Australia over this tomorrow. We've only
got one in there either, but they've got more vineyards
than we do and they're much bigger country. So but
I looked at the fifty through one hundred and we've
got I think, because it was only a cursory glance
because I was busy yesterday, But the fifty through one hundred,
I think we've got more. This is the big Wine Awards,
this is the one you want to be and we've
got more than Australia does in the fifty through one

(36:56):
hundred Rippons in the top fifty, so congratulations Ripping probably
one of the most beautiful vineyards in the country. But
Henske is your only one in the top fifty in Australia.
If you ever want a bottle of wine Henske Hill
of Grace, if you can never get your hands on
one of ours, you'll die and go to heaven. So
the Australian's a bit anxiy. I might raise that with
Murray after thirty this morning rack him up fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
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By News Talks.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
A'd be Winston Peters shortly Mickaykers in Las Vegas for
the f one this weekend just before age as well.
Eighteen passed, so the year has gone out of the room.
On the All Blacks of course Wales this week? Does
anyone care Elliot Smith as well as Elliot Morning. If
I could tell you port your home, would you come
home right now? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (37:41):
I think I think that would be a fair idea
and I think that probably the All Blacks would probably
take it as well. It feels like a test match
that they've got a tick a box. You got to
get through. But it's very much like a bronze medal
match at at a Rugby World Cup. To an extent,
no one really wants to play it. Well, the All
Blacks certainly don't want to play it with no Grand
Slam on the line, but they've got to get through it.

(38:02):
They've got to tick a box, they've got to come
home with a win and then face wat comes over
the course of the summer.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
How am the organization the chuduling? Why didn't they make
Wales first island last? Get a bit of hype around
this thing? Who wants it? I mean, no matter what happened,
I mean beating Wales, who cares well?

Speaker 7 (38:17):
It's all controlled by the Six Nations, so I don't
think the All Blacks or in New Zealand Rugby get
a great deal of say in it. And obviously've got
all the other teams part of it around the globe
as well converging on them. So it's all about, you know,
various broadcast deals and things like that. So New Zealand
Rugby wouldn't have had a great say in it. But
I agree finishing you know with a perhaps a stronger

(38:37):
test might have lived the year in the balloon, as
you said.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Before, exactly more importantly for me, Elliott, how are your
perdums going? I mean, have you seen the value of
the dollar?

Speaker 3 (38:47):
For God's sake?

Speaker 11 (38:48):
It is It's not great, is it? Mike?

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:51):
I mean, what's a toast of sandwich costing you?

Speaker 7 (38:54):
Well, it's about six pounds in the UK, so I
think it's about what eighteen nineteen dollars and a half
two and a half roughly just under two good?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
No, it's not good.

Speaker 11 (39:05):
Do you want some more money to Jason Restaurant lest
you gave me as well?

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Well? Exactly have you been to any Christmas shops yet?
I saw a video the other day of Selfridge's Christmas shop.
It's so beautiful. Does it feel festive?

Speaker 4 (39:16):
It does?

Speaker 7 (39:16):
And that's the wonderful part of the here this year
is that you can you can feel it. There's the
Cardiff Christmas Market and there's not much really going on
otherwise in Cardiff, so they've got to get the Christmas
cheer out more than a month before Christmas, so the
lights are out. You know, there's a festive feeling because
you know you've got to make the most of the
months because ones that Hits December twenty six. It's all downhill,

(39:37):
to be quite honest, that is true.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
So the All Blacks by What eighteen twenty two, twenty
one A lot thirty thirty, I'll say thirty Mike, Okay,
well done, Well done, Elliott Elliott Smith, who's calling the
game for us? In the early hours of a Sunday morning,
Mark the weekend the Moment seven twenty.

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Speaker 13 (40:04):
Right.

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(41:07):
to fifteen, and all that cost them was a couple
of suckups going to Washington to present the King with
a watch in a gold bar. Uber three. Supreme Court
may have read the law, which means the law needs
changing because what those four drivers wanted and won is
not what the gig economy is all about. Fairies six
and an improvement on what we have job done Tory two.

(41:29):
As in far moving to Melbourne. You see, not every
loss is a loss. The car import levee six because
the government has done the right ing. But what a
mess ah, Yes, the car import levey two. See the
actual idea is stupid and it's exactly what you get
when your gerrymander markets food prices six up four point seven.

(41:51):
The good news is they were up five, so we're
getting there. The Real Estate Institute seven bullish headline of
the week, Spring has arrived in housing. That's what they said.
Are the all blacks?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Three?

Speaker 10 (42:02):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (42:03):
How different this week could have been. Whales seemed like
such a low light, don't they are? UK asylum law seven?
Hint to panic about that this week? It's amazing, isn't it?
How long it takes some governments to work out what
tear is a country? Your part axed bill to abolish
the BSA eight Yes please New Zealand Inc. Seven Yet
another solid week the aforementioned housing report. Of course, we've

(42:24):
got BFx sports q THRO forecasting in the number of
companies like Turners that got the profit up, Green shirts, greenshirts,
green shirts, Oh and the cycle trail seven one point
two billion worth of pedling opportunity six. As in the
political party, I mean, I admire their pluck and determination
and staying power is not convinced. There's a five percent
out there to be had, and that is the week

(42:44):
copies on the website. And if you fly three times
around the world in business class, take fifty six Aukland
to Wellington Flex Affairs and stand on your leg for
three minutes a week, you will get a CORU Black membership,
which comes, by the way, with lounge access and a
year's supply of marking. The week might tell when he'm
a supporter, but I want confirmation that you won't go
near labor like he did last election. If he does,

(43:05):
he secures my buke. Well he's already said it. He said,
as long as Hipkins is leader's not going near labor.
And Hipkins is going to be leader. And just for
everybody who's wandering around this morning going on to hear
the rooms about bishop and stuff, two things, and I'll
just reiterate what I said. Chris Hipkins will lead the
Labor Party into the election campaign and Christopher Luxen will
lead the National Party into the election campaign. Pike River

(43:28):
Mike all they wanted with the bodies back at the beginning.
Now it's a publicity stunt and a name for more money.
Shame on. Then I forgot that Pike River is like fluoride,
is like COVID, is like vaccines. It's camp central. It's
like people who just want justice, and there are people
who go as in that time we moved on from

(43:48):
Pike River. It's an amazing thing what a nation can
get exercised about over a period of time. Right, I'm
going to do some STA jumps, warm myself up for
Winston and we'll see how that goes for us. Tim
and Kdy after eight and also, as I say, Vegas,
I followed Kim Illman, which you should appear into IF one.
He's quite cool. He does a lot of video work.

(44:10):
He's a photographer for if one. Anyway, this week in
Vegas it is rained in biblical proportions. There were floods
all over the place. Advantage being because it's moderately warm,
generally it should dry up quickly and it should be
okay for the weekend. But anyway, we'll check in on
the F one in Vegas before eight o'clock as well.
Meantime news is.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic Hosking
Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate differently since
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Speaker 2 (44:40):
Minutes away from a Tim and caty after eight, so
some of the media got their wish. Yesterday's New Zealand
first lined up to tell the world they will campaign
on flipping the new regulatory standards law. There's nothing like
a perceived fisure in a coalition to light the fire
under a journal of course. Anyway, Winston Peters is with us.
Very good morning to you, good money. Are you stirring?

Speaker 13 (45:00):
No?

Speaker 20 (45:02):
I tell you what I was asked the question. And
here's the point. When that letization came in twenty twenty two,
it had a referendum with it, that is, it'll be
passed but subject to a public referendum. And we had
a feeling that well, the national actor that at least,
well they'll go back to that. What didn't happen and
happen to be overseas and as a consequence, we didn't
make as clear as we should have that we will

(45:25):
would vote for it. But we agree to disagree. Right,
it never changed on that.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Okay, that's fine, and I accept that. I did watch
some comments on the House from Casey Costello, who said
you've got no qualms of recommending it to the House.
Does that seem at odds with what you said yesterday?

Speaker 20 (45:39):
Yes it does, But that point was, Look, I was
overseas at the time, forget where in the world, and
that sometimes happens at the up. We admit that wasn't
Casey's fault, but I have been I've been there. I said,
don't bother to speak on the part and say, look,
we disagree with this, but we're going to vote for
it is part of the college and agreement.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Okay, So can I also clarify that in campaigning again
it because it's not what you wanted and you've been
consistent that it's not a bottom line and you're not
going to dine the ditch on it or is it
a bottom line?

Speaker 20 (46:08):
No, it's not a bottom line because I tell you
what we used to have. Doug Kead, a colleague of
mine who I came into Parliament with way back in
seventy had the head of the Regulation Review Committee was
a serious lawyer and it was a parliament responsibility and
he was responsible to the tax pass and the voters
of this country. To get a separate group was just wrong.
Look twenty seven thousand submissions came in saying nothing that

(46:29):
they weren't off on the left. A lot of them
have planned common sense lawyers.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, I get Look, I get all that you're entitled
a campaign. Here's my concern is that, you know, what's
going on here is that there's most of the media
just are whitting their pencil of excitement over the fact
that your coalition's falling apart. Headline and stuff this morning.
Is the coalition crumbling? I mean you don't want that,
do you?

Speaker 20 (46:52):
Of course not. I mean I made the point of
the number one responsibility with God, a matter of our difference,
is to provide a stable government the next election, and
then stable garden after that and after that. That's our responsibility.
That's what the public want. But these journists are celebrating
and shouting, all shouting at once, and I feel like saying,
you know, I'm just discussed by the fact that when
I first came to Parliament, people in the press gallery

(47:14):
had been around fifteen twenty years and the top of
the class best to genists. Where now you get ahold
of journiors that don't know what yesterday look like.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
So we can also can we to a degree. Now,
I don't want to cause trouble here, but Seeymore shouldn't
have said what he said, either, should he because you're not.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Going to labor.

Speaker 20 (47:31):
I don't know why if you would say that. The
real point is I met as clear as daylight that
having been betrayed and stand in the back and lied
to and misled and the public being misled, I would
never trust Sepkins. That's the end of it. I've met
it very clear. But I'm not going to go on
my whole career every meeting getting up with a question,
who are you going to go? This is the real
question of Austins. But I don't ask themselves who's going

(47:53):
to go with us? Yeah, that's the real lisue coming
in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Well, that's fine, that's fine, But my concern, my overarching
can concern, is that we are in desperate need of
cohesive government who are turning this country around and providing
us with the opportunities that we once enjoyed. And the
more time we spend on the frippery and the headline
clickbait nonsense, the less time and energy goes into the
main job.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Is that fair?

Speaker 20 (48:17):
That's fair enough? That's fair enough. But were a journalists
ask you an honest question and in a strange and
none of the other people haven't bothered what we care
that we think. But when a journalist ask you an
honest question then titled an answer and I quietly said, look,
we didn't like this. Here we're campaign against the next lesson.
In the meantime, it stands we've all got our right
to allow at our manifesto, surely, But no, these journalists

(48:38):
are just screaming from the rooftop because I think they
might see a schism that's artificially being created.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Well exactly that. Well, that's my other concern about the
MP It seems odd that after thirty years, we still
don't understand that you've got to delineate and differentiate yourself
from national, from act or from anyone else you Otherwise,
what's the point of being a party.

Speaker 20 (48:58):
Yes, but around the rest of the world they are
nderstand that the medium understand about an assuming there have
been as the abdurate, stubborn obs in the extreme as
to not telling the public outworks. We're in the market
share business. But we get on as a country and
we get on as a democracy, right, So For.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
The record, you guys as a government, as a coalition
are getting on, getting on fine, and there is nothing
to see here.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Is that fair?

Speaker 20 (49:25):
That's precisely the position. But more importantly, we always knew
and we said so that twenty twenty three was a
two election victory, that we had a win in twenty
twenty six because the country was on the cusp of Baranilla,
Millanma another Venezuela. And I'm telling you that's exactly where
it was going to go if these people we got
back in have a good hard look across the house.

(49:47):
Please don't tell me you can see even half a
cabinet over there.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
So where are we at with lux and getting rolled
and Bishop being the new leader before Christmas?

Speaker 10 (49:56):
Now?

Speaker 3 (49:57):
You see this?

Speaker 20 (49:57):
Is that the kind of thing that I'm doing, this
thing talking about the National Party leadership? Well about leadership, person.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Change your relationship. A bishop turned out to be the
leader of the National Party, wouldn't it.

Speaker 20 (50:11):
But look, it's the National Party leadership and it's over
to them. After they're the question becomes what do the
other people think of that? But they're not going to
get me as they would love to say. Oh, Winston
Peter's been involved in the national pay leadership question. No,
I'm not. You're not going to get me or any
of my colleagues involved in that. We get on and
do our job properly.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
And are you doing your job properly?

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Do you think?

Speaker 20 (50:32):
Well, if you can find anybody else who's doing the hours,
or rather putting the time and getting the results that
we have, please tell me. But I just say this
country two point three billion dollars and I had half
the media screaming out trying to make out that it
wasn't that. And I thought, there's Heather Simpsons, he's pretty tough.
They got Chris McKenzie. Hither the I mean other people
there all the on the committee that of people who

(50:55):
got this together, fairy holdings, and there they're saying that
the people who gave that information be lying. This is
extraordinary stuff. These people are so negative. I can see
why the mainstream ministry is collapsing in media.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
The reference I was asking was the ipsoce can you
explain how it is? And this is not a criticism
because I can't explain it. How is it that the
bulk of New Zealanders don't perceive labor as being in
charge of a number of policies when they've got no
policies and they haven't done anything apart from bug of
the country. How is it a poll comes up with
life and why why are you not getting more credit
for what you're doing?

Speaker 20 (51:29):
Well, some of us are. But here's the point that
doesn't help that. The ability is yes, it is say,
I don't mind you. Some of these polls are seriously
worry about. But in the end, it's this Politics is
a complex business. You've got to understand. You've got to
have a neck. You've got to be able to read
the room and hear the room. That's all I'm going

(51:51):
to say.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Okay, appreciate your time, have a good weekend, have a
good trip to China. Winston Peters, there was twice this week,
wasn't weird? I'm on you know it's actually irregular. It's
sixteen away from eight.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
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Speaker 2 (52:09):
Thanks for the Winston interview. It's good to hear the
truth from the horse's mouth.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
That was pretty much a complete background, wasn't it. So
therefore there's nothing to see here. There is no story.
He's allowed to campaign on it. He quite rightly if
you missed the nuance of what he was saying. The
original part of Seymour's law went to a referendum, and
that's the democratic part. That's the democracy argument that he's
always backed, and that's why it was part of the

(52:33):
coalition agreement. So put it to the people and let
the people out to say that's what he's all about.
That bit got taken out because people got all angsty
and therefore it never got put to the people. Therefore
it just got stuck through parliament. Hence his concern. But
he's perfectly entitled to go to the next election and go,
we don't like that word, campaign on it. It's not
a bottom line. And that was the key question yesterday
that never got asked because he's right about the media

(52:57):
is it was? Is this a bottom line? Just remember
this during the campaign, which appears to have started already
twelve months out. God help us all. Every time they
say something random, like the Greens did the other day
with their seven minds, go is this a bottom line?
And if it isn't, and most of the time it
won't be, then that's the end. Of the story because
none of it's ever going to come to pass when

(53:18):
he just remarkable, compelling and concise Mike, as you know
the problem most of the media and journalists, they're sympathetic
to the Labour Party. Boy Winston's getting better and better,
So why doesn't he like it? He still hasn't explained. Well,
he did explain, Grant. He just explained that it doesn't
have the referendum part. But equally he can explain it
all he likes on the campaign trail, because that's what
campaigns are all about. Mike, join Korro again. Because my

(53:41):
two hundred and fifty one flights taken miss qualification by
two points. I find it hard to believe you've had
two hundred and fifty one flights in a year and
you're not a member anyway. Lounge fall so bumped to
the other Dodgy Lounge, which I'm also a member of anyway.
Joy of Joy's got to fly back from Fiji on
Wednesday on Air New Zealand, except it wasn't near New Zealand.
It was Weymos. No idea. Damage to the brand is monumental.

(54:02):
I think about it this morning. This one extraordinary amount
of coverage free in New Zealand again this week over
Corey Club changes. It's like the media are gripped by
every time the airline goes, hey, we're putting different sort
of cheese on the plates. It's like mass coverage. And
every time they change the rules of the Coury lounge
all of a sudden. The other funny thing I like,
isn't it funny in an egalitarian society that airlines have

(54:24):
managed to maintain first class, business class, koru black, COREW gold,
korw elite. No other place on earth in this world
do those words. I mean, if I went around and
said this is an elite show, just for elite people,
then you'd go, what a prat? And yet airlines do it.

Speaker 11 (54:45):
I think they sort of unsee it, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I think I'd like to think. I'd like to think
it's unseid glean, but if we labeled that way. But
but airlines get away with it every day. It's weird
as turn away from it.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
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Speaker 2 (54:59):
Tod's what I've shipping away from it. It's Vegas, baby.
If one in town for the third time, it rained
like nothing else of this week, So what's the forecast
and what are the prospects for race day. Mike Mickayke
is an F one journalist at the Las Vegas Review
Journal MC morning, Here are you. I'm well, indeed, I
was watching some of that weather earlier on this week.
Is that typical?

Speaker 21 (55:20):
Not really for this time of year that usually we
get that kind of light, steady rain throughout the day,
like in the wintertime, so a little bit earlier than usual,
but I guess there was a storm that came in
through California, so a little bit heavier in the rain
that we expect in the in the in the fall.
But you know, things aren't looking so bad in the
next few.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Days, Okay, so the forecasts find a dry track or
we can't say that yet, you could.

Speaker 21 (55:39):
Pretty much say that looking like maybe some overnight rain
tonight and tomorrow, but early early morning rain, so obviously
you know, no issues for tomorrow's final practice and then
qualifying and then everything's looking pretty clear on Saturday. I
think maybe there's like a fifteen percent chance of rain,
but I don't think that's around race tame.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
What's your assessment as we enter the third year first
year massive of course, as old the noise that last,
you know, quite as big. What's year three.

Speaker 21 (56:03):
Look like, Yeah, so heading into it a lot less
negative noise, I would say, aroun one with the vegas basically,
you know, the first year we had all that roadwork,
about nine months worth of getting everything ready for their
FIA approval for the race itself and the paving. Last
year a little a little bit less, you know, they
didn't have as much roadwork to do. We still have
about four months so, you know worth of lead up

(56:25):
to the race. So obviously they're setting up the track
and make sure they're all the painting's all well and
all that F one's gotten to the community, and they
kind of trying to mend the ties here with some
of the people that they might have ticked off the
first year. So they went in and gave a lot
of tickets away to you know, teachers and other people
in the community that are doing nice things now. So
year three looking a lot, you know, a lot less

(56:45):
noise as far as negativity going with F one in
the locals, they cut the ticket prices thirty percent less
at the start of the ticket sales earlier this year.
That was kind of aimed at getting the locals who
may have skipped it in the first two years because
of the price. They said that worked out pretty well,
so it's tracking for a sellout. I'm assuming before the
race kicks off on Saturday that they'll announce the sellout.

(57:06):
So you know, everything's looking pretty good going into year
three here.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Fantastic how much buzz around Cadillac given the American connection
and their entry next to you.

Speaker 13 (57:14):
Yeah, you hear a.

Speaker 21 (57:15):
Little bit of people talking about it obviously, you know,
the lot of you know, Vegas locals are still kind
of getting their feet wet with the F one stuff,
especially maybe the people that straight away the first two
years because of the negativity around it. But yeah, some
people are kind of getting excited about that, and with
the American tie in, so you know, people also are
pretty familiar with Sergeio so with some of the Hispanic

(57:36):
population we have out here, so a lot of buzz
around that as well.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Fantastic Good on you make you enjoy the weekend, Appreciate
it very much. Mission. I guess it works out well
for us, of course, because this afternoon is P one
and P two Tomorrow Saturday is of course qualifying and
then on Sunday, so it'll be late Sunday out time
because of their time zone, because they're a little bit
ahead of us the previous day. So it's just ideal.
Condition's longest, Am I right saying it's the longest straight?

(58:01):
It's certainly as far as speed is concerned. They knock
up three fifty clicks on the back straight there. It's
not my favorite track, No street tracks a favorite track
of mine. But nevertheless, I can't see why Racing Bulls
wouldn't be, you know, doing what racing bulls does. Officially.
I saw another video yesterday just a boy your witnesss
with my if one knowledge or another video yesterday that

(58:24):
confirmed in their minds that Liam Lawson is safe and
that it's Yuki Sonoda who's moving on. So this limb
black guy sold on. Apparently they think hat is the
next thing, so he's up to Red Bull. Limblay gets promoted,
Liam stays, and Yuki is on his way. So that
seems to be a mounting amount of at least commentary

(58:46):
on that at the moment. News for You next, and
then Tim and.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
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Speaker 2 (58:58):
Body, Mikey. I heard that hondraa taking up to IndyCar
next year year, A lot of talk about that. I've
also heard that Bishop's going to roll Luxant, So I
don't know what happens there. Did Carolyn say anything, By the.

Speaker 11 (59:13):
Way, they've sent that peace plan off to Zelenski?

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Yeah, we knew there. So you knew.

Speaker 22 (59:22):
When Trump said that the Dems might be doing sedition
and that's punishable by death.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Right, Was he joking?

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Nah?

Speaker 11 (59:30):
She says, well, you know it looks pretty bad, okay.

Speaker 22 (59:35):
I Meanwhile, in other news, you know that plane that ups,
plane that flew up in the big fireball.

Speaker 11 (59:41):
Turns out it's because the engine fell off.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
It We knew that too, So is that what you
just said?

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Now?

Speaker 11 (59:46):
She didn't say that.

Speaker 22 (59:47):
There's just some other news that've got they've got more
information about exactly how the engine fell off.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
And thank you straight from the newsroom there with Green newsroom.
This is five seconds of Summer, or five sauce as
the kids used to call that. The kids were into
five sauce there for a while. I mean one of
them went to do one of them?

Speaker 10 (01:00:04):
Cadi?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Did Ruby go to five sauce?

Speaker 13 (01:00:08):
They went to five sauce?

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Five sauce? It could be just the girl's ownly yet
I don't think they all went to five sauce. Everyone's
as star as the album. They're back, bombastically fun, knowingly
self aware, not unlike myself. Actually three years after their
last album. This is their sixth album, if you can
believe it. Were we worried when Ruby went Cody and
the kids were at.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Were we worried that there was what was the problem
with our worry as parents at that particular point that
they were they a bit languagey that band?

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Or was there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Do you remember what the problem was?

Speaker 13 (01:00:43):
No, I don't think there was a problem with them.
I think they're pretty innocent.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Are they okay?

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Pretty sounds like Lulu Lulu had a problem. Let's see
what lu.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Lu lu tun date this week's term. That's the problem.
Lulu turned eight?

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Oh my goodness, yeahs and fifty six.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
That's the one that's the one younger than me, older
than Kadie. That's how that works.

Speaker 13 (01:01:05):
She ran out of puff on her walk this morning.
She's just she's she's not like she used to be. Hey,
just wanted to address Winston.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Because sorry, just just before I do that. Twelve tracks
in thirty six minutes and twenty eight seconds.

Speaker 15 (01:01:18):
Just want to anyone care I do?

Speaker 13 (01:01:22):
I reckon? They don't. I reckon, they don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
What else on the show? Don't you reckon? Anyone cares about?
Let's let's just do it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
It's gonna be a great weekend. It's gonna be a
great dry out to the country.

Speaker 23 (01:01:31):
You too, if you want to showcase new music, I
reckon you just play it and you go, that's five sauce,
and then anyone who's interested can either look it up
or get it. But I don't think you need to
give a dissertation on how many tracks, whether you think
that's a good amount or not a good amount.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
You know, I quite, I quite like the dissertation. It's like,
you know consumers years I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
It's what I'm telling I know that people better than
you do.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Kaddie.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I think, Kadie, the more I know you, I think more,
the more out of touch you are with regular New Zealanders.

Speaker 23 (01:01:59):
I think I'm getting out of touch with the Well,
I'm not on the radio anymore, so I'm probably I'm
probably increasingly out of touch.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Do you reckon? You could go back to breakfast television
and do what you used to do and crack the
audience the way you go back to break here.

Speaker 23 (01:02:12):
I think I'd just be very diplomatic about No, I'm
not going to answer that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Your silence speaks volumes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Were you on Breakfast with Us? Tim?

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
I parachuted in a couple of times in the holidays,
So did you Yeah, someone's on the.

Speaker 13 (01:02:32):
Late news with me? He was? He was my New
York correspondent.

Speaker 10 (01:02:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Yeah, that's how That's how I ended up the US correspondent,
Actually what is in New York?

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
And said do do do do some corresponding on my
late news? And there you were. That's how that works.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
No, no, no, no, no, it was actually I think Look,
I was so I was so broke at the time
that someone came over and said, you can you know,
I've got a cell phone or Motorola flip type. You
don't have a social Security number, you can't get a phone.
Won't you just pay this bill? In the phone rang?
And it was actually Pam Corkery. He said, is Lauren there?
And I said no. There was a silence and I said,

(01:03:09):
she said mate, Yeah, She said is Lauren there? And
I said no and she said oh. And I said
do you need a journalist? She said yeah. I said
I'm a journalist. And then she said what's your name?
And I said it? She said, oh, you'll do. The
next morning, I was at the studio in Times Square
doing the late news and that's Katie inherited me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
It's funny you should mention New York. Can you give
me a what neighborhood term? I've never felt as poor
as I did this week? What what neighborhood? When I'm
in New York? What neighborhood? Can I afford to stay?
And now given I can no longer afford to stay
where I used to stay?

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
So where did you used to stay?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I used to stay on the corner of six and
fifty ninth, which is just at the bottom of Central
Park South.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:03:55):
Right, I was a Central park with a Central park
because we love the park, you see, want.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
To stay there anymore? We did drive through the Bronx
and Harlem on the way to the baseball Would I
could I afford the Bronx or Harlem.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Actually, you know what you could do Spanish halam where
I was right, it's not bad. You dipped down into
the lower east side, but that might not be It
might it might still. You might be just going down
a bit. Why don't you dry the upper east side,
which is just below that, the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Ambient beast side.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Have you been to the bagels there? You could still
walk to the park.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
I just I can't afford any of it to I
looked at. I looked at, didn't we get We've got
to quote this week and give them the dollars down
at what is it down to a US dollars about
three cents to a US dollar, whatever it is, And it's.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Like point four Andrew Keller had this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
It was it was point four. I think we can
afford to stay for two days at the y m
c A if we're lucky.

Speaker 17 (01:04:49):
I think it was.

Speaker 13 (01:04:50):
Numbers of knights and numbers of people.

Speaker 23 (01:04:52):
And then at that point you were like, we need
to reduce numbers people nights to reduce numbers one.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
So it's sounding Brooklyn, you can't afford Manhattan anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
That's exactly what it has. More in a mine at
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Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Kadie, you were going to say, Winston.

Speaker 23 (01:05:22):
I was just going to say, I am concerned about
the number of voters who are swayed by the media.

Speaker 13 (01:05:27):
Not all, but mini still are.

Speaker 23 (01:05:29):
And the media these days are so low brow and
so out to lunch that it really concerns me that Winston.

Speaker 13 (01:05:36):
I know he's doing playbook Winston and this is.

Speaker 23 (01:05:38):
How he rolls, but we need to be more sophisticated
and kind of I don't know, I just feel like
I'm just I'm having PTSD about the election year already
before he even started.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
But did you hear the interview? Didn't they explain himself
to the point that yesterday was essentially a non story.

Speaker 23 (01:05:57):
Yeah, but no one will it doesn't matter because people
have consumed it, and that's that that snyone's going to.

Speaker 13 (01:06:04):
Pick that up and run that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
And if it was essentially a non story, he would
he would have said, oh, by the way, this is
not a deal breaker. But it's not his job to
say that in a way, so he's kind of you're
you're right, Cattie. I think it is the bottom line.
That's because he was asked the question, but not not yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Oh yeah, that's what I mean to you. Well, that's
the prime just looking to see the herald that they
picked it up here, No.

Speaker 13 (01:06:24):
They won't it and it's just christ to the MILF
for labor.

Speaker 23 (01:06:26):
All it does is feed into their narrative that they
get excited about that the coalitions.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Cross for why he No, no, they haven't picked it up.

Speaker 13 (01:06:37):
No they won't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Here's the dealer. I think I think that this is
this is sort of like all you know, it's like
archier sports critics, right, we're all we're all galvanized by it.
But I think most Kiwis aren't. They're disconnected from politics
until two weeks before the election. Then they start thinking
about it. Kiwi's are apolitical mostly we're not that we're
just tragics.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I would tend to agree with you, and that's my
great hope, but I'm just not into this. I just
what happened. I think you're right, Katie, is that yesterday
I just thought, oh, for God's sake, you can just
see how much of that do I have to wade through.
And it's only November of the year before the election,
just like I know.

Speaker 23 (01:07:18):
But I think although we don't engage until a couple
of weeks before the election, I do think we're big
on the vibe.

Speaker 13 (01:07:23):
You talk to business.

Speaker 23 (01:07:24):
Owners, you talk to anyone trying to hold stuff down,
trying to hire people, students trying to get jobs can't
get them.

Speaker 13 (01:07:30):
You know, there's a vibe out there, and we've got
to look.

Speaker 23 (01:07:32):
At the mood and we're in a funk, and we've
really got to work hard to kind of move the
needle on that vibe because I think even though we
might not be politically engaged, all of us apart from us,
we've got a sense of how the country's tracking and
how we feel.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Well, let me tell you this, I've got I've got
I've got some hot news. So Q three Infametrics came
out yesterday with the Q three forecast for the GDP,
in other words, the economy, and they've got they've got
good growth and in the beginning of the year and
we had good growth and Q two we fell down
a hole or did we So I'm told there's a
revision to the number coming that will be to the positive.

(01:08:10):
So if it is to the positive, so that means
we've got Q one, Q two, Q three, in other words,
the entire year in positive growth. And then you juxtaposed
you juxtaposed that against the mood and the vibe that
you talk Ofka, how do you explain them?

Speaker 13 (01:08:24):
Yeah, we've got to work harder. But that's the negative
bias of the media, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Well, I think too. It's like maybe we have this
sort of bad news sort of travels faster than good news.
So I think that's you if that's revised, and it
will be about the economy, right, well, Bell Clinton, it's
the economy stupid. So if the economy is tracking well,
that will affect the politicus.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
This is my point, And this is what's so interesting.
So everyone will say, oh, it's so hard, I haven't
got any money, But then there's many foie hundred and
fifty dollars and having a good time at Metallica getting
pissed on long whites. So I mean, which is it.

Speaker 13 (01:08:58):
Sound jealous?

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
I didn't see I didn't see you at Metallica, got
of long whites for the weekend that we used to
have long whites.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Remember when we had long whites in the house.

Speaker 13 (01:09:08):
It was the kid's party drink djou, wasn't it discussing?

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Well, let's let's do something cheerful. It's National organ Donation Day.
What do you think would be the best organ you
could donate my heart?

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Because it's so large.

Speaker 13 (01:09:21):
I'd see your brain is bigger than actually I got a.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Big I'd say your spleen, not your liver.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
No one wanted my tests this year. I did my
special tests and my muscans and m zones and my
prods and my probes and what what came back? Cadie.

Speaker 13 (01:09:41):
Yeah, it's all a plus plus.

Speaker 23 (01:09:42):
But still I've seen what you drink don't drinks.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
He's off the fried food now, I heard him, you know,
just saying I don't eat fried food.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
No exactly, I shouldn't have said that out loud. That
sounded prattish. But so I'm just to confirm for the record, Caddie,
I'm off the source. Help people, I'm off the source
apart from on the weekends the sauce.

Speaker 13 (01:10:02):
Yeah, midweek, you're off the source.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Friday isn't midweek?

Speaker 13 (01:10:07):
It's the whole week, the whole week.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Yeah, okay, but here's the question. How much sauce on
a Friday? How much sauce on a Saturday?

Speaker 20 (01:10:15):
Case?

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Lots of sauce? Tiny little bit?

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
What a thimble fallim a poignant rose? Quick, give me
a break. We've seen the social media quick.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Quite No, it's the same foto repeated over and over.
Aren't Deco New Yorker Hotel on seventh an you right
mix of pleasant and inexpensive? Across the road from Madison
Square Garden?

Speaker 10 (01:10:33):
Do you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Is that a good hotel?

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Team across the road from Madison Square Garden? Yeah? I
mean you're okay, but yeah, you're you're you're starting to
put you're probably in your your financial.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
You know, my daughter is working in New York, living
in Brooklyn. We went to see you loved Brooklyn. Brooklyn's nice,
isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:10:51):
Brooklyn's cool. I wouldn't mind checking out Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
I think that to go to Bellberg, you know, Williamsburg
where all the hipsters used to be your sea. This
forty eight year old hipster.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
That's the line, the high line, low line, round line.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
No, no highlights on the other side west Side, Yeah,
can I afford it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Which?

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Maybe you could? You take a map when you go there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Nice to see Kate Hawksbitt and Wilson eight twenty two.

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(01:12:08):
I'm not claiming it. These are the official stats. Officially,
the economy grew in Q one. Infometric says it's going
to grond Q three when we get the number out
in December, and there is a revision coming on Q
two to the positive. So I'm not claiming it. If
that's the case, then why is retail sector so depressed
and well done on last year everywhere? Well, and it's

(01:12:28):
not everywhere. But your questions a fair one, but it's
a wrong one, and that is that GDP is based
on the entire economy. It's everything, So you can't just
look at retail and go it's in the doldrooms. Therefore
the country is because that doesn't include beef. Beef is
through the roof, dearies through the roof. The agricultural sector

(01:12:49):
is through the roof. Horticulture is doing particularly well. Aquaculture
is doing fine, thank you very much. So some at
retail is a problem. So it's the entire economy. Of
all I'm saying is if the Q two number revised
is to the positive, and you've got growth in Q one,
Q two and Q three, you can't argue with the
facts because facts are facts, tell you what. There's been

(01:13:10):
political carnage across the Tasman this week. Yet another person
fell on his sword yesterday. More from our old Murray
olds in Australia right after the news, which is next to.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
I can remember you discussing the best access point to
the States earlier this week. Great entry point for us
as Houston. We go to the honky Tonk's great country music.
The locals two step and the people are awesome. Check
out one of the two, Whiskey River honky Tonks, and
I'm sure you'll love the experience. Hawaii is the other one.
They recommend. It's feeling laid back in Hawaiian. You officially
get entry that way. A lot of people suggest you

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probably avoid Los Angeles, twenty three minutes away from.

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Speaker 10 (01:13:58):
Murray, how are you wedding, Mike?

Speaker 20 (01:14:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:14:01):
Pretty good. Thanks. Busy week over.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Here, very busy week. I was watching It was about
eleven o'clock yesterday morning, maybe a little bit later, and
I'm pumping a little bit of iron doom arm curls
in front of your doing, in front of the screen,
and I'm watching this guy Speakman and I've never heard
of Speakman before. And he was being interviewed by Laura
Jays and she was going, now, what's all this going
on about you? You know they're coming for you, mate,

(01:14:22):
and he guys don't know what you're talking about. Nan, No,
it's all good here in the Liberals, and I thought whatever. Anyway,
by the afternoon he's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
That's right.

Speaker 10 (01:14:31):
New South Wales following Victoria, which this week dumped a
male opposition leader, ex policeman Brad Batton, He's been punted
for a first time female politician. And that's what's going
to happen this morning here in Sydney because Mark Speakman,
nice guy, interviewed him many times. But you know, no
cut through, no public appeal, no ability. It seems to

(01:14:53):
take the fight up to the Labor government. Look down
to Victoria. It's probably the worst the worst state government
any state in Theustralia has ever seen. I mean, it
is just dreadful, absolutely hopeless. You center to the shop
for milk, had come back with a loafe of bread.
They're just worthless. And so they've gone with this young
woman bright, you know, articulate for the first time at

(01:15:14):
the same year Kelly Sloan will take over from speak
when she's a former television journalist, great communicator, but first
timer again. And they're up against the very experienced labor
leader in both states in fact, so you know Susan Lee.
You look at the federal level where you just think
how long was Susan Lee got until they make a
move on her? Because you look at the latest polls

(01:15:35):
the red Bridge Pole this week, Mike, you would have
seen this one nation a record level before. They had
up to eighteen percent and the coalition down five percent
in a month. Twenty four percent. Imagine that twenty four
percent for the conservative coalition eighteen percent for one nation.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Yeah, it's interesting. I think we're seeing historic times. Actually
this cole moiling. Is is it good that the tide's
gone out on climate change in terms of the belief
that we're going to get the goals? And this is
a talk fest and there's a lot of private jets
and all the other crap that goes on flip side though,
were sort of due because it's the Pacific region and
it's good income because people spend money go out to dinner.

(01:16:13):
So as Albanez he won or lost on this cop.

Speaker 10 (01:16:15):
Thing, well, I think he's one on two levels. He's
won in terms of the politics because it was going
to cost hosting it in Adelaide was going to be
in the order of two billion the b dollars. Now,
I don't know how that can be, but unless the
Australia flies everybody and it's a week long gab fest,
as you say, so that would have given the opposition

(01:16:37):
and susonally this week has been lifting a game in
terms of taking the fight up to the government and
she or whoever leaves the federal opposition in the new year,
we're to be able to say, well, what a waste
of money two billion dollars with people are going hungry
and Australia can't pay their power bills and so on.
Here we are hosting this stuff. So politically he's deep,
you know, dodged the bullet. And also I think think

(01:17:01):
it's being framed by the government as a win because
Chris Bowen, who is the federal Energy minister has got
a key say in negotiations about COP thirty one. He's
going to be leading all the talks in the lead
up to the event, with specific focus on the Pacific,
which of course feels entirely neglected. As you say, has
never been down here before the COP summit. So the

(01:17:24):
Pacific won't be ignored. I think Albneasian company going to
take that as a winner as well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
We had some stats this week the government band cell
phones and schools, and it seems to be working in
terms of attention and bullying and all that sort of stuff.
And then I'm reading yesterday that MET is actually shutting
down some kids accounts and your band's coming in under
sixteenth in December. And I honestly I never thought i'd
see the day. I thought the tech companies wouldn't acquiesce,
but they have. As I mean, but is everyone happy

(01:17:51):
with this or a few parents and kids going well
wait a minute, this is a bit real now, And
I'm not that keen on it.

Speaker 10 (01:17:56):
I think maybe the kids a bit unhappy. But I
mean Meta has, as you say, perhaps surprisingly completely sided
with the federal government here. It's going to remove hundreds
of thousands of accounts by December the tenth. The first
will banish by the first week of December. The first
Mornings went out yesterday or Wednesday this week. I just
forget now. Children have got two weeks. Here's the quote

(01:18:17):
to download or delete or delete otherwise you're going to
lose that data that you might want to hang on to.
Every meta platform except I think messengers covered. So you
have things like Facebook and Instagram and threads, TikTok, YouTube, Snapchat,
dis whole bunch of them, and metters says no children
under sixteen will be allowed. Now it's also a very

(01:18:40):
commercial decision because of along with those messages they're saying
and by the way, but give us your contact detail
so when you're sixteen, will sign you up once again,
which is a smart business. But here's the thing. I
mean many questions. How's it going to be policed. A
mom's and dad's going to be able to walk into
the bedroom and say, oh, you're on, tick off, get off.

(01:19:00):
You know, you don't let her be on there. So
and kids are going to have to prove our sixteen
or above. They're going to have facial scans and all
that sort of stuff. So there's lots for civil libertarian
groups to say, hang on, we don't like this, don't
like that. And in fact, Julie van Grant was an
American born public seventy if she's our online safety regular,

(01:19:21):
and she's been summoned to give evidence to some sensor,
to some congressional committee in Washington, I mean some guy
called Jim Jordan, whoever the hell he is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
He's a major player. Don't understate the relevance of Jim
Jordan's He's a heavyweight. But important to point out that
she's not compelled to, is she.

Speaker 10 (01:19:41):
No, she's not, absolutely not. She may. Her office put
out a statement yesterday afternoon saying Miss mman Grant might
cooperate via zoom, but there's no way she's going to
hop on a plane and go to Washington to be
grilled in Congress. No way.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
No, she's a noted zealous according to Jim Yeah right,
these Nazi laws as quickly marry the Nazi laws you
seem to have got them through. Is that nation what
I mean? I know it's driven by New South Wales,
but does it New South Wales alone or is it
going to go nationwide?

Speaker 10 (01:20:13):
That's a good question at the moment, it's my understanding
it's only New South Wales. He's the state laws that
pertain only the New South Wales because that's where a
lot of the focus has been. As you say, we've
also seen these halfwards down in Victoria, notably that New
Zealand born neo Nazi leader down there, Thomas Seul. He
allegedly thed this attack on an Indigenous embassy if you will,

(01:20:37):
in public parkland down there. He's just got out of
jail last week. But here in New South Wales that
have deported at least one South African guy who was
pictured outside Parliament in front of that anti Jewish sign
and along with the sixty of his closest mates. Sorry Pale,
if you want to turn up there, here's the airport.
We'll see you later. So the laws, yes, the laws

(01:20:57):
have come in and they're going to be. I think
they're going to be. It must be in today because
I think this is the last week of Parliament and
the government is saying this will strike that bright balance
might between you know, the the you know, a freedom
of speech that that people are entitled to are allowed
to have, but when you cross the line of the

(01:21:17):
hate speech. Forget it, you're out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
One hundred percent. You have a good weekend. Murray Old's
Out of Australia eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Said, b I'm not sure who listens to the IMF,
the International Monetary Fund, but they came out. They haven't
done ours yet and I'm assuming its due, but they
did Australia yesterday. Their whole let's have a look at
your economy and see what we think you should do
with it. They basically argue they should tax people more,
increase the GST. They're raised concerns about their debt, and

(01:21:49):
rightly so, it's tracking towards a trillion dollars. But interestingly enough,
New South Wales is the worst economy in Australia if
you take it over the last twenty five years. Just
about everyone's ground better than New South Wales, which interesting,
isn't it. Queensland is one hundred and twenty five percent
larger than it was twenty five years ago. Western Australia
is one hundred and fifty percent larger, even the Act.
But that's all the politicians, of course, that in two

(01:22:11):
thousand the Canberin economy was smaller than Tasmania is Now
it's a third large. It's grown one hundred and fifty
six percent New South Wales though as only ground zero
point nine percent for the year and sixty five percent
in the last twenty five years. So it's the laggard
of all the Australian economies anyway. So if they come
up with something about New Zealand, will have it on

(01:22:32):
the program. Obviously. The other thing that no one seems
to be covering, I think Stuff had it yesterday. To
their credit. There's another bloke, Andrew Sweet who's gone from
the COVID Inquiry, who's the executive was as executive director.
He's quit from nowhere. I would have thought it was
a deal. I mean, obviously if something traumatic happened in
your life. But I mean it's not like the COVID
inquiry goes on forever and if they come to you

(01:22:55):
and say do you want to be part of the
COVID inquiry you go yes please? Then it who's you
to stay there until the end? Anyway? He says, quote,
I've reached a decision that it was time for me
to pursue other opportunities. Now he's not the first to go.
A number of them have also gone. Last time we
talked about the COVID inquiry, we had granted Ellingworth on
he's the KC who's the chair who thanked him for

(01:23:16):
his outstanding work to date. I don't know how outstanding
his work is. This is phase two. This comes in
out of the current government who thought Phase one was
a stitch up, which it was. So something's not right
about phase two. You don't get these people and they're
all comparatively speaking, esteemed people. You don't get this number
of esteemed people suddenly walking out. So we'll need to

(01:23:36):
inquire over the weekend and present you with some answers
on Monday ten to nine.

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Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
We love Lane very very likable. When was she on
the program? She was a couple of months ago, three
months ago, two and a half to three months ago,
four weeks, two days ago. She was lovely, thoroughly enjoyable.
Anyway she was hosting the country Music Awards yesterday and
Liz Hurley and her new boyfriend, Miley's dad were there.

(01:26:25):
She won Entertainer of the Year beat Stapleton, Comb's Wallen
and Cody Johnson. So she is a thing. And that's
the second when joins Taylor Swift and Barbara Mandrell was
the only third woman to win multiple Entertainer of the
Year awards. She won Album of the Year with Whirlwind.
She won the Female Vocalist of the Year. And then

(01:26:46):
we came to the Single of the Year. That's a
Biggie that went to Ella Langley and Riley Greene. See
for me, that's a little bit country, just a little
bit country, isn't it ringing? Once it gets down that track,
I'm going hang on. I mean, I love country.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Brother, that's just a.

Speaker 11 (01:27:09):
Country for you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
That's just that's just a country for me.

Speaker 11 (01:27:12):
And I've obviously been putting my fingers in my ears
for this whole segment.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
So one one Song of the Year. It also won
Song of the Year. So Single of the Year and
Song of the Year are different categories, but they won both.
Male Vocalist of the Year was Cody Johnson did all
the usuals. This one musical Event of the Year, Bummy,

(01:27:40):
that's post and Blake Coast Blake musical event categories. When
two or more artists who wouldn't usually co leed you
get together for a song. What do you mean wouldn't
usually cold?

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
And what was that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Even me? You go by you guys, you wouldn't usually cold? Yes,
you wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
You wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
I think we would know? How does that work us?

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
That is us for another week?

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
Back on Monday morning.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
From six You have a based of weekends Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
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