Full Show Podcast: 03 December 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Dead b Welly Welcome today. A bit of a reset
around girls for the police. The Commissioner is with us
on that. Some education news while we've got principles quitting,
but international students are piling into the country. Liam Lawson
got the good news for next year. Giny and Mark
do their own scrutiny Week in Politics Wednesday, Richard Arnoldstein
Price they offer nothing but genius as well. Hosking Welcome
to the day seven pass six. So tell you what

(00:31):
the really good part about Liam Lawson holding his racing
bull seat is. It's based, of course, on talent in
a world that rightly or wrongly, too often relies on
rich people to funder Seatike Brendan Hartley before and Laws
and arrived behind the wheel because he's good. The decision
is not to be underestimated for this country either. Formula
one is a truly global sport and it's growing in popularity.
To be part of that, even altruistically, is a major

(00:54):
win for us. All I reckon as much as we
love you know, rugby and cricket and netball. These are
not real global interest activities. Not since I guess Steven
Adams have we had someone at this level of elitness.
And even then the NBA has got a lot of
teams and even more players. I mean, if you think
of a golf certain football at the EPL, I guess
tennis is about it in terms of real global power.

(01:15):
We also have this extraordinary history, of course with motorsport,
tiny country names like McLaren and Holm, Dixon McLaughlin. But
Formula one sits at the very peak of it all.
I mean, it's limited. Think about it this way, limited
to twenty drivers twenty two as of next year. It's
exceedingly limited in access. The path to the top is tortuous,
the determination and skill required to make it as extraordinary.

(01:36):
Of all the drivers in all the categories of motorsport,
which must number tens of thousands, you are in the
top twenty, and as Lawson has shown this year at fourteen,
in fact, he's far from the worst of the twenty.
The trick was to get into the big game. He
did that. Next trick is to stay there. The opening
seasons the most fragile last direes and do in and sergeant,

(01:57):
get past that hurdle. Be part of a team going places.
Next step is to test how good you really are.
Do other teams come calling? Do you drive above the
level of your car? Do you have a long term
place in the greatest of motorsport competitions? Do you standard
chants of lining up alongside those grades? All of these
possibilities are in front of Liam Lawson as a result
of today's decision. Talk about living the dream and we

(02:20):
are along for the ride.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Views of the world in ninety seconds, but start.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
With the war and talks about the wars and Russian
ships have been attacked. Not happy, he said.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
He will increase strikes on Ukrainian facilities and tankers. In response.
He also went on to say that if Europe wants
to fight war, we are ready now and that Russia
will take measures against tankers of the countries which have
helped Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Widcarfe and jared A jaw boning as we speak, medtime
Vlod's been in ale.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Or from what time?

Speaker 5 (02:48):
America's taking serious steps one way and I'm sure that
this is our common task for everyone in Europe is
to really and the war not just to get a
course in the backstage.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Christy Nham had a meeting with Trump last night, has
requested a mess trevel Ben for a whole bunch of
still undisclosed countries, but you can probably use which ones.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
If you don't align with the values of the United States,
and you don't respect our country, our culture, our laws,
and our people, you are not welcome here under the
leadership of President Donald JE.

Speaker 7 (03:23):
Trump.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
And then to Britain with the almost unbelievable, never ending
story of Hillsborough as in you know, nineteen eighty nine,
rolls on with yet another report, which in itself has
taken thirteen years.

Speaker 8 (03:32):
What our report really shows is is how difficult it
is when organizations prioritize defending their reputation rather than openly
and immediately admitting the mistakes that they've made and working
to put those right.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
This mom's daughters were killed.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
How on earth can it have taken them thirteen years
to write this when there's very little in the report
that I didn't already know.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
And this woman lost her brother.

Speaker 7 (03:57):
Nothing we'll ever change, nothing a change, There'll be another
cover up, There'll be you know, another disaster.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Finally deal done I'll have a change. Finally, deal done.
Prata has officially acquired for Siety. They bought love Caprie
Holdings for about two and a half two point six
billion New Zealand dollars. The son of the Prata rown
is going to be an executive director. That's News of
the World and Sharp threas ninety A. Korea got some
Korea News. Two point four percent inflation is that bad?

Speaker 9 (04:25):
It's not bad.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
They think the central Bank's going to pause. They also
got an announcement from Lutnik yesterday over their cars and
tariffs and stuff, so they seem pretty pleased about that. Meantime,
Eurozone inflation came in two point two for November, a
little bit hotter than they thought. They thought two point one,
but they'll take two point two. I think eleven past six.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
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Speaker 2 (04:52):
In the UK, the difficult days continue with the for
the Starmer government. The OECDS come out overnight forecast for
the year GDP one point four, which a mnemic and
next year it's even worse at one point two. Current
inflation at three point five and they think even next
year is going to be two point five, so you
can heap that bad news on the already large pile
of bad news in that part of the world. Fifteen

(05:12):
past six now from Sure and Partners, Andrew Keller Her,
good morning, Very good morning, Mike. Now this isn't good either.
I'm afraid I've lost count of how many there are.
But it's definitely a trend, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (05:24):
Yeah, we're talking the global dairy trade auction.

Speaker 11 (05:26):
I would love to have had good news for the
hard work and dairy farmers out there, but the downwards
trend in global dairy trade outcomes now looks pretty well entrenched.
And unfortunately, if you if you just look at the
numbers MIC, the weakness is actually accelerating. The Global Dairy
Trade Index has fallen four point three percent. That is
now for the record eight auctions in a row with

(05:48):
negative outcomes.

Speaker 10 (05:49):
So it's starting to look similar to the sort of
protracted slump.

Speaker 11 (05:52):
We saw in prices and you know, sort of twenty
twenty two that went into twenty twenty three, that four
point three percent four it's sort of a similar lack
of demand we saw in a couple of other auctions
back in early September.

Speaker 10 (06:04):
In July.

Speaker 11 (06:06):
The Global Dairy Trade Index peaked in May. It's now
fallen twenty percent since then, which is it's not good news,
but hail the mighty cheddar cheat like it was the
year it was the star of the auction last night
lifted seven point two percent, But the more important categories
didn't contain a great deal of good news. The croissant
bakeries out there will be cheering a twelve point four

(06:28):
percent fall in butter prices.

Speaker 10 (06:30):
That's a significant drop. Mozzarella down one percent.

Speaker 11 (06:33):
Major commodities skim milk pie powder fel one point six percent,
and whole milk powder fell two point four percent.

Speaker 10 (06:40):
And just looking at those three categories.

Speaker 11 (06:42):
I mean, but it is in a precipitous decline.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
In May it.

Speaker 11 (06:47):
Was at eight thousand US dollars a metric ton. It's
now at five one hundred and sixty nine. So that's
a thirty five percent fall and rapidly accelerating price moves
in the last two auctions. Whole milk powder peaked back
in May as well. It's now down twenty three percent
since then. The lowest prices on the whole milk powder
we've seen in over a year. Skill milk powder hasn't

(07:08):
been as large, sort of less dramatic price action there, so, but.

Speaker 10 (07:12):
A whole milk powder the two that are really moving.

Speaker 11 (07:14):
You'd have to say the forecast farm gate milk price
could see further downward pressure.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, and I'm not sure you're going to cheer us
up much with these Black Friday numbers. Ain't well.

Speaker 10 (07:25):
I'm trying to find pockets of good in there.

Speaker 12 (07:27):
So this is the first look at the strength of
Black Black Friday sales. The good news is that Black
Friday was the busiest shopping day of the year so far.
This is for non food retailers, at least for those
who use the Worldline New Zealand's payment network.

Speaker 10 (07:42):
But the spend was lower than last year.

Speaker 11 (07:44):
So consumer spending recorded through core retail merchants selling non
food items and Worldlines network system reached fifty five point
six million. Easter Saturday was forty nine point one, so
we did well there, but compared to last year's six
point two percent low, which is quite a large fall
if you look at the whole Black Friday weekend.

Speaker 10 (08:05):
And I can confidently say, Mike I did.

Speaker 11 (08:07):
Not cross the threshold of any shops over that week
because I couldn't think of anything worse. But spending was
four point six percent lower over the whole weekend. Same
story across the other weeks in November as well. Here's
some good news. Clothing merchants experience higher spending than Black
Friday twenty twenty four. That's good because apparel has been
a very weak category. Spending elsewhere was generally down, more

(08:29):
spending at food and liquor stores, but less at hospitality
and Mike. Again, personal observation, I haven't had a Christmas
lunch yet so far this year, so if I'm any
barometer people spending less. Q three spending stats in New Zealand,
it was stronger than expected, So it remains to be
seen whether these Black Friday numbers are sort of reality check.

(08:49):
On Q four, there's still time for us to get
all the credit cards and debit cards working before Christmas.
But I would note on Good News yesterday where Love
and came up.

Speaker 10 (08:58):
You see those.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Came up with a billion dollars?

Speaker 10 (09:02):
Can you a billion dollars? With the sales? They're going gangbusters?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Okay, Now, doctor Rana, we saw her for the first
time in official action yesterday. What do we make of it?

Speaker 11 (09:11):
Well, I didn't have I didn't have the opportunity to
watch it live, but apparently the second hand reports are
pretty good, I mean, second day on the job. She's
in front of the Parliamentary Financed Expenditship Committee, so straight
in the deep end, sort of reiterated the harmful nature
of inflation, pledged transparency and laser focus on the mandate
steered clear of you know, the conversation went towards fiscal policy.

(09:34):
She's stilled clear of that, so it wasn't their wheelhouse.
You will have a discussion with a monetary policy committee
about transparency. But really quickly, my wholesale interest rates have
really stepped higher since that last official cash rate review,
and I'm just looking now two year swap, five year swap,
they're fifty forty to fifty sixty basis points higher.

Speaker 10 (09:53):
That's going to impact fix rate mortgage at some point.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
All right, what are the numbers?

Speaker 11 (09:57):
The dal Jones is up two hundred and thirty three
points percent forty seven thousand.

Speaker 10 (10:01):
Five hundred and twenty four.

Speaker 11 (10:02):
The S and P five hundred is up point one
seven percent sixty eight twenty four, and the Nasdaq. As
I look at it, almost three quarters percent high one
hundred and sixty seven points twenty three thousand, four hundred
and forty three, forty one hundred barely moved ninety seven
oh one, the NICK barely.

Speaker 10 (10:19):
Moved forty nine thousand, three hundred and three.

Speaker 11 (10:21):
The A six two hundred yesterday was up one seven
percent eight five seven nine, and on the local share
market we gainedo point four percent, plosing it just over
thirteen and a half thousand. Kiwi dollar point five seven
twenty four against the US point eight seven, three to
two against the Ossie point four nine three seven Euro
point four to three, four to two against the quid

(10:42):
one New Zealand dollar will value eighty nine point twenty
six Japanese yen Bitcoin is rallied. For those people that
are watching the cryptocurrencies, it's over ninety thousand US dollars,
gold four thousand, one hundred and eighty two dollars amit announced,
and Breadcrude sixty two dollars and sixty eight cents.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
See you tomorrow. Andrew Keller has Sure and Partners tasking.
Dell came out the other day and they talked about
their big fourth court had driven by nine point four
billion dollars worth of AI sales, and I thought anything
to do with AI is just booming away. And then
a note overnight. Yet again he's obviously worried. But the
head of the Bank of England Barclays, said that sharp
corrections value of tech companies growing fears AI bubble the

(11:23):
most stretched they've been such prices. This is since the
two thousand and eight global financial crisis. They've also announced
plans to lower the amount of capital high street banks
need to hold. So a similar sort of story there
as here, of course, because that's been a discussion in
this part of the world. Six twenty one Your News Talks.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
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Speaker 2 (11:54):
Tell you what Honduras is interesting? Could be some scandal
brewing in Honduras and that election. I'll come back to that. Christie,
who I referenced at the start of the show. So
she said, and I quote, she had a meeting. She
wants a full travel ban. I just met with the president.
I'm recommending a full travel ban on every damned country
that's been flooding our nation with killers. Leeches and entitled junkies.
So no actual list of countries, So the implications are enormous.

(12:19):
And we'll talk about America and New Zealand and our
relationship business wise, and just a couple of moments, Mike,
when will the thirty five percent decrease and butter prices
be reflected on our shelves? Well, I would have thought
reasonably quickly, you know, stock and all of that's the
usual equation. But nevertheless, if you're watching it go down internationally,
you'll see it go down at the supermarket. Sounds like
six dollar butter mics on the way to the supermarkets.
I just hope the media spend as much time celebrating

(12:40):
the lower prices as they do moaning about the high prices. Mike,
good morning. I agree. So good about Liam. A great talent,
super lovely, young focused man. Regards Christian are such great
news about Liam. Yes, so it's very good news this
morning if you've missed it, that the confirmation has come
through that Liam Lawson holds a seat in racing balls
for twenty twenty six, six twenty.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Five ending now with him warehouse. You're home for Christmas shopping.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Now here's a plot that's been begging to be made
into a movie. So the movie is called Mother Mary.
It's about You'll never get this one. It's about a
pop star going through a psychological struggle to get a
dress made by her ex for her new tour.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
So you've come calling back to me and nowhere else
to go.

Speaker 13 (13:27):
So tell me what do you see in your head?

Speaker 14 (13:30):
Me?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
It's not so you singing.

Speaker 15 (13:33):
I'm laugh for you if you want.

Speaker 14 (13:34):
I don't want to break my streak. I'm not listening
to your music. Let Minica, you out who you did.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
You can't really hate me?

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Oh yes, I can.

Speaker 13 (13:48):
Is that what we're doing here?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
You're making me a head dress?

Speaker 14 (13:55):
You'll see.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's cost I'm not sure what would do? Is that
like a horror or a comedy? It's going Anne Hathaway,
you see that's prom my I associated and Hathaway with
you know, the intern, Mother's instinct and all that sort
of stuff. Anyway, Mother's instinct was all right, I think
I'm Roses is no good. By the way, that's one
of the newer movies out at the moment. The Roses

(14:22):
God sucked into that. The other day, Where was I
Anne Hathaway's mother Mary, a lot of original music, Jack Antonoff,
Charlie x c X. They're putting it out in the cinemas,
which might mean you'll never hear from it again April
or twenty six, So you've got a fear fear way. Yeah,
the Roses was recommended to us. I won't say by
who it was that he loved. No, it wasn't said

(14:44):
he did you love it? He said the road just
avoid it. It's not bad, but it's it's not what
you think it will be. Anyway. Back to the US,
the US New Zealand relationship business wise, more details on
that in the moment.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
The newsmakers and the personnel, the big names talk to
make the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate, doing
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been if.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Marco bot thro the headset seems to be a problem.
Possible war crime, of course, which makes an even bigger problem,
which it don't little be update shortly twenty three to seven.
Speaking of the States, back here, we've got the United
States Business Summit meeting today. Policymakers, diplomatic, business heavyweights, all
that sort of stuff. They talk trade in tariffs, and
commercial opportunities US a big deal is still second largest
export market, over thirty billion dollars worth of business. Fiona Cooper,

(15:33):
executive director of the NZI United States Councilors with US Fiona,
good morning, Good morning mate. When you gather together New
Zealanders and Americans, are these unusual times or business as
usual or somewhere in between?

Speaker 16 (15:45):
These are new times. These are different times, and that's
why the theme of the event today is America's new playbook.
You know, we're all adjusting to America's new rules of
the game for international trade.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
The terrriff story, how is it a good story a
negative story? Was still trying to work it out. Well.

Speaker 16 (16:03):
A year ago, we were all terribly worried about what
was in store, and certainly it has been a real
challenge for a lot of our sectors. But nonetheless, for
many products, prices are holding up in the United States
and their strong demand, so perhaps the impact hasn't been
as bad for every sector as we had feared.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Is there still some stuff to come through on that though?
Is there still some information to come.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Through on that or we don't know, Oh, for sure,
there is.

Speaker 16 (16:32):
It'll be interesting to see how the trade stats are
looking in the new year to see what the impact
has been. And of course we're all waiting to see
what the Supreme Court says about the legality of these
reciprocal tariffs, so that could change things again. Although nobody
I think is expecting tariffs to disappear completely. They they'll

(16:53):
find another way if the current tariff structure is not permitted.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, what's the view on America. I mean, a lot
of countries are looking for alternative markets if it gets
too complicated. Are we in that or not?

Speaker 16 (17:06):
Well, you know, every company makes decisions about where to
place its product. But the fact is the US is
a huge and very lucrative market. That's why it's one
about you know, top trading partners and we're doing great
business there and so I think today is about sharing
stories around how we navigate this tariff turbulence, but at

(17:28):
the same time sees those opportunities in technology, investment, education, aerospace, agribusiness,
you name it. There's still tons of opportunity in the USA.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
You make a very good point because so much focus
is on things like beef, how much I mean you
talk about tech. Where are the growth areas outside of
US growing? Food for Americans.

Speaker 16 (17:49):
Well, you know, we do a great business in exporting
machinery to the United States, so a lot of New
Zealand's high tech stuff is contributing to US supply chains
and that going very well. So I think the tech sector,
the services sector is going absolute gangbusters in the United States.
Fantastic business there. It's our largest services market. So as

(18:10):
I say, there's still tons of opportunity, but we have
to at the same time as navigating these new challenges.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, the uncertainty is interesting, isn't it. You ownA appreciated
executive director of the New Zealand United States Council, Fiona Cooper,
with us, we will go to the aforementioned the United
States and just a moment with Richard twenty two.

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with you. The Rises was a great movie, well fair enough,
I'm sorry about that. Sam thinks it was okay, So
I've got a not good, reasonably good, and a good
from you. So that's three different reviews. Can you believe this?
And there's something psychologically wrong with some people. Serena Williams,
it has been reported this morning, has made the decision
to return to professional tennis now as a libertarian. I'm
all in favor of it. She can do whatever she likes,
lib her own life, be your own person. Fantastic, But

(20:04):
there's something problematic with elite athletes who can't walk away.
So this is three years after her final match. Not
to be confused, of course, with a sister Venus who's
forty five, it's still active. Serena's forty four. So she's
officially applied this morning for reinstatement. What does she hope
to prove? Hasn't she done it all? And if you've

(20:25):
done it all, don't you walk away? Coming back never works?
Asked Jordan asked Brady six forty.

Speaker 17 (20:32):
Five international correspondence with ends at Eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Ask Tiger Woods for good misake, and he hasn't even
walked away yet. Richard Arnold, how are you?

Speaker 15 (20:42):
I'm well?

Speaker 13 (20:42):
Good?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
So where are we going with us? Is this a
war crime? Who's to blame? Who made the call? Where
are we at?

Speaker 18 (20:47):
Well?

Speaker 15 (20:47):
It's ongoing, higsys is growing facing growing questions over this
deadly second strike on the alleged Venezuelan and drug boat.
After two men survived the initial US attack, a follow
up strike like this could be a war crime, as
you've been indicating in a similar incident. After this September attack,
survivors were rounded up as is the standard procedure, with

(21:08):
some Republicans along with Democrats now joining the call for
an investigation. Higgs Seth posted a cartoon joke featuring a
Canadian kid's book cartoon character, Franklin the Turtle. The Higgsseth
post includes the quote Franklin targets Narco terrorists. In his
past in Iraq, HIGs Seth has railed against the Geneva
Conventions and illegal rules of engagement. He wrote in his

(21:31):
book The War on Warriors that soldiers should ignore such
legal advice. Now, higgs Seth has pointed the finger at
an Admiral Frank Mitch Bradley, who he says is responsible
for the US attack on the boat, bombing survivors says
Krolin Levitt, the Trump spokesperson.

Speaker 19 (21:46):
Secretary hag Seth authorized Admiral Bradley to conduct these kinetic strikes.
Admiral Bradley worked well within his authority and the law
directing the engagement to ensure the boat was destroyed and
the threat to the United States of America was eliminating.

Speaker 15 (22:01):
Higg Seth tweeted his supposed support for this admiral. Quote,
he has my one hundred percent support, but ume, the
Fox News analyst says in response, quote how to point
the finger at someone while pretending to support him. Democrats
says Malton says.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
He's throwing his commander under the bus. That's what's going
on here.

Speaker 15 (22:18):
Haig sth doesn't want to take responsibility for this war
crime himself, so he's immediately passing the buck. Higgs Sayth
told Fox News that he was monitoring all this during
the attack.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I watched it live.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
We knew exactly who was in that boat, we knew
exactly what they were doing, and we knew exactly who
they represented.

Speaker 15 (22:35):
So what did he see watching this live? Did he
see a war crime or a murder? Say some Democrats,
Given that the US has provided no evidence that these
individuals were Narco terrorists. There are some accounts of civilians
being forced onto boats like this under threat that if
they don't, their family members might be killed. Is that
a story these survivors might have told. Republicans Speaker Mike

(22:55):
Johnson says he will wait until he hears all the facts.

Speaker 20 (22:58):
I haven't reviewed the scover the mission.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
I haven't reviewed that particular strike.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I don't know what went in the admiral's decision matrix.

Speaker 15 (23:06):
You know, whatever is being said right now, there are
recordings of these attacks, so we can anticipate that what
happened and the roles of individuals will at.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Some point become public. And Hernandez out, Yeah.

Speaker 15 (23:18):
Now, the former president of Honduras has just been released
from prison now, where he had been serving a forty
five year term. The ex president Je Hernandez once boasted
he would quote stuff for the cocaine drugs up the
gringoes noses. He was convicted of being the key to
a drug smuggling scheme that sent more than five hundred
tons of cocaine onto American streets. That's more than four
hundred and fifty thousand kilos. He took a million dollar

(23:41):
bribe from El Chapo, directed police in the military to
protect other smugglers who paid him off. A man was
killed in prison in a bid to protect him. Now today,
New York Times has just released a four page letter
he wrote to Trump saying he quote sends his highest respect,
esteve and blessings to Trump. He says he is an
innocent man targeted by the Biden Harris administration for political

(24:02):
purposes only, while Trump says it seems reasonable one to
him that this fellow hernandez Weld treated unfairly. So a
dozen warships in fifteen thousand US troops off oil rich
Venezuela and they get out of jail free card for
the former Hundurdan.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Leader see product. Richard Arnold stateside, by the way, I'll
come back to the Honduras on the vone in just
a couple of moments. Trump's lawyer harbor Elina. She got
booted out yesterday. She's another one who was unlawfully appointed.
So I don't know where that goes. I mean, I'm
assuming they'll appealed the decision. But he's not going well
in that particular department. Costco meantime, is suing Trump or
the Trump administration to get a full refund on the

(24:40):
tariffs they've already paid. Now, what's interesting about this, They've
filed in the US Court of International Trade, but they
claim or worry that they risk losing the money they've
already paid, even if the Supreme Court goes with or
against the Trump administration. So I don't know which plays
out first. Because the Supreme Court said they were going
to act fairly the judiciously Starbucks, they're going to have

(25:03):
to hand out thirty five million bucks to fifteen thousand
workers who will get fifty dollars for each week they
worked during the July twenty one through July twenty four period.
Came out of the New York Department of Consumer and
Worker Protection alleged violations of city law requiring predictable schedules
for workers. So if you don't like your roster, you

(25:24):
can see and clearly win and Meta as an Instagram
specific to Instagram This Morning, are now requiring all US
based employees to return to the office five days a week.
So that's still looking in that part of the world.
So bit going on there isn't there? Ten Away from.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Seven the mic Hosking Breakfast with the defender and news
togs head.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Let me just updoate you on Honduras technical tires their
official word at the moment. So you've got the right
winger Asfura, you've got the former television host in Nasralla.
They're separated by just five hundred and fifteen votes, this
with about forty percent of the boat counting. You go,
hang on, haven't I heard forty percent of the boat counted? Yes,
you do? It is this time. Yesterday is telling it
was forty percent. So they're stuck. So something's not right

(26:03):
there anyway. They're calling for patients and prudence, manual count
growing tensions, The website and the electoral council has collapsed
as Fura's got the backing of Trump, the outgoing president Castro,
left winger barred by the constitution for standing for a
second term. You got six and a half million registered voters.
Turn Out was expected to be strong, but there's no

(26:25):
official figures because things don't seem to be going that clearly.
So we'll see where it goes. Because of course, the
threat overrides the country that of Esfura doesn't win, then
some of the American funding is no longer going to
be heading their way. So it was forty percent voted
yesterday and tight as of this morning, it's forty percent
voted and still tight five away from seven.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Well, the ins and the ouse.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
It's the fiz with business fiber, take your business productivity to.

Speaker 21 (26:52):
The next level.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
I might tell you Steve Price later on. But really interesting,
there's a probe that they're not releasing because a legit.
So it's so embarrassing to the Coalition and Dutton that's
why they're not releasing it. But they've looked into how
the election went wrong and there's a direct tie in
with Trump, which makes for fascinating reading the part that
has been released. But anyway, will asleep later on the program,

(27:13):
where was I? The folding phone wars have arrived in
this country, so we got a new brand in the country.
It's called Honor Ho Nor. They were under Huahwei, but
Huawei sold them five years ago to the Shengin government,
so I thought that's your first red flag. Anyway, they

(27:34):
had the thinnest foldable phone in the world. So if
you're looking for foldable, next thing you look for is
wait and so you got thurnan foldy. It's called the
Magic V five. It's priced at twenty eight hundred and
ninety nine dollars. Let's call that twenty nine hundred shelly?
Is that a lot? Well depends what you're buying. Samsung

(27:57):
have got a similar one for three and a half
thousand dollars, so yes, it is. It seems to be
a bargain. What happens here is because they're new, they're
doing a deal for you. So you get your foldable
phone and they'll give you a smart watch as well.
Is that directly connected to the Chinese government? Is that
like you when the Chinese government want to talk to you?

Speaker 22 (28:15):
It actually comes with a lot of guarantees about security
and privacy.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Does it really? And a tablet so you get that
hang on, so you get a smart watch and a
tablet for free. So that's worth nine hundred and forty
eight dollars. And apart from the Magic V five foldable,
they've also launched Haab Honor, a watch, a tablet, samea
buds and more affordable non folding phone, which is the
on A four hundred Pro. It's not Magic. The on

(28:40):
A four hundred isn't Magic, it's just Pro. It's just Pro.
So that's only eleven hundred bucks only I say only
eleven hundred dollars. So anyway, that's on your shopping list
for Christmas. We love the tech, don't we. We love
the tech. Now, Richard Chambers, the police Commissioner, has got
a couple of new goals and he wants to reach
that will involve you and us as punters, so we'll

(29:02):
talk to him about that. Some interesting education news. One
story but negative. This is the Union's again claiming all
the principles acquitting. Slightly more positive education news is there's
a lot of foreign students flooding into the country, which
is good for the bottom line, of course, and we'll
talk about Lim's very good news as well. Still to
come on the Mic Cosking.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
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Speaker 2 (29:31):
Morning seven past seven. So we have a reset of
sorts for the police. Out of the mix skimming mess.
Our new goals are being issued eighty percent of us
having trust and confidence, eighty percent satisfaction with officer service,
and a fifteen percent reduction in both public violence and
retail crime. So police are looking to achieve this over
the next twelve to twenty four months. Richard Chambers as
the Police Commissioner, and is we.

Speaker 23 (29:49):
Us good morning, Good morning Mike.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
The goal specifically in a moment, but how much time
of your time are you spending currently cleaning up what
we would loosely call this mess?

Speaker 23 (30:00):
Far too much time? Might be important issues to deal with.
As I've said since the IPCO report, we've got to
get it right and make sure this never happens again.
But yes, it's meant that some of the focus that
I've wanted in the latter part of this year is
have to shift to every next year while we work
through the issues that have been identified.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
So the eighty percent of us having trust and confidence,
where does it sit currently and how hard does that data?
And how do you find out what it is?

Speaker 23 (30:25):
Yeah? Well, look we've been at eighty percent before some
years ago, but sitting at the moment around about seventy percent.
So we have seen a slide increase over the last
twelve months, which is great. I know that we can
do it. Trusting confidence matters, and eighty per cents aspirational.
But I'm determined to.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Get there, and how do you measure satisfaction?

Speaker 23 (30:44):
Will We do a number of surveys with people who
have interactions with police and all sorts of different circumstances.
So we'll continue to use those surveys to better understand
how we're going and where we need to make improvements.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
And so the difference is the eighty percent is perception.
I guess the fifth seen percent reduction in public violence
and retail crime. That's very specific. Do we still have
a major problem with violence and retail crime?

Speaker 23 (31:08):
No, Look, we have made huge progress this last twelve months.
I've made a priority for us to focus on retail crime.
We're making great in roads. The fifteen percent is about
increasing resolution, so that means holding offenders accountable, and we're
seeing some great results around the country. Districts are certainly
leaning in and doing their best to address retail crime.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
As regards sorry, as regards confidence. Post this whole shambles
of mix skimming and co IF, I suggested to you
that most New Zealanders think no differently of the police
because of this specific set of circumstances. Would you agree broadly.

Speaker 23 (31:42):
Or not absolutely agree with you? Mike, that's the feedback
that I'm getting from across communities in New Zealand is
that they appreciate. This comes down to a group of
former leaders of New Zealand Police, not the fifteen thousand
outstanding men a woman who do a great job day
and night. They understand that that's comforting actually because our
work continues. We do do an incredible job in New Zealand,

(32:04):
and New Zealand does and I don't want that to
change or you know, the events of the IPCO report
to impact on the trust and confidence and the people
that I lead.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
All Right, go, well, appreciate it. Richard Chambers, the Police Commissioner.
I must ask Mark and Junny after write about Scrutiny
Week because he's in front of Scrutiny Week yesterday and
he sort of reiterate they asked him about the same
thing we've already asked him about on the program and
it's just sort of a repetitive material. So it leads
to the question what's the point of Scrutiny Week. But anyway,
more later ten past seven, we're starting to move in
the international student market. We got four point five billion

(32:33):
in the year to September, which is up from four
point three billion enrollments set at over eighty three and
a half thousand students. That's a fourteen percent increase. Industry
now sits among our top ten exports, making up over
thirteen percent of all services export. And now Amanda marlou Is,
the Chief Executive of Education New Zealand And, is with us. Amanda,
good morning to you, Hi night. Four point three to
four point five as in billion, Now, that's not a

(32:55):
massive increase. Are we peaking here? Are we tapping ourselves
out here or not?

Speaker 9 (32:59):
Oh?

Speaker 24 (32:59):
Not at all? I think we are. We are on
a really solid growth trajectory. So we were at about
three point six billion last year. So this is really
great for the New Zealand's economy and for international No.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Sorry, so when I said four point three, I'm wrong
in that. So you've gone from three point six to
four point.

Speaker 24 (33:17):
Five if you look at year on year, yes, we've
had an increase, Yeah, but a much bigger increase year
on year, which puts a swell on our track to
double export values by twenty thirty four.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Good. How's the demand space thing work? I mean, is
there more demand than the rest space?

Speaker 24 (33:35):
I wouldn't say that we're at we're at that sort
of full capacity, yet there's definitely room to grow, certainly
in some parts of the sector more than others. So
universities have got higher enrollments than perhaps they've ever had.
So certainly we've have surpassed pre COVID levels, which is great.
Schools are growing, which is also really good. And the

(33:55):
private training sector grew thirty three percent in this period
that we've measures recently, so that's January to end of August,
so those are really great numbers for those parts of
the sector. English language we really need to help boost.
And of course our polytechnic sector because of the change
that's happening, that isn't growing as quickly, but still is

(34:16):
growing two percent. So you know, there's really good green
shirts everywhere.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Excellent. Is the visa things sorted? There was a bit
of anks around the visas and where you work or
don't work, or study or don't study afterwards during and stuff.
Is everything smooth now?

Speaker 21 (34:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (34:30):
I think what we're seeing is some really great work
from Immigration in New Zealand to make some really great
operational changes. So I have to say students are reflecting
that and their feedback to us that their experience with
the visa system is much more positive than had been previously,
and there's been some great changes recently to things like
the number of our student can work while they're studying,

(34:53):
moving from twenty hours to twenty five hours, which is
really great for students. And very soon some work underway,
but very soon we'll see for six months kind of
work expiration visa opportunity for international students who are not
doing dereeable study but can have six months to find

(35:13):
themselves a role in New Zealand and moved from a
credit to work visa. So those are those really great
changes that's seen as very positive internationally. People are very
curious about New Zealand because we're one of the few
countries in the world saying hey, come to New Zealand,
you're welcome, whereas a lot of countries are turning students away.
So we're in a good position.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Good good, good good. This is all excellent, amand I'm
glad I got you on the program. Amanda Marlow, Chief
Executive of Education, New Zealand, thirteen minutes past seven Paski, Mike,
I hope you're watching or hearing about Trump's ninth Cabinet meeting.
Second term very interesting. I wish our government was doing
the same. Jason, what sort of life do you hold?
I mean, honestly, Jason, we have been watching this this
morning because I'm actually paid to watch this stuff, and
we were just saying off air, what a what a

(35:57):
circle jerk it is? I mean literally, at a big
round table or oval table, each person talks and goes
hell I mister president, we've been very busy in the
labor department. We are cracking down, just like you instructed
us to do. And that goes on for five minutes.
Then they just go around the table. It is the
most boring dissertation that you've ever seen.

Speaker 22 (36:16):
So it's coming from the guy who spends all the
afternoon watching his in Australia stationary.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
By I know boring television when I see it, and
this is next level. Mike's something else to remember. Liam
Lawson is in the top fourteen.

Speaker 15 (36:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I pointed this out at the start of the show.
He's not just top twenty, he's currently fourteenth. And your
point is excellent on paper. The car shouldn't be as
good as he's driving it. And that's where you get
real success in F one. If you go back to
someone like George Russell at Williams. He was out performing
the car next stop Mercedes Mike four point one drop
on the GDP, not the GDP, the GDT auction. This

(36:50):
morning not a happy morning for dairy farmers. Futures are
saying eight fifty for the payout next year. Mike Tiger
can't walk away because he can't walk Barry, that's very funny.
That goes back to the Williams sisters and how they
there is something, isn't they don't you think I'm right
about this? Elite athletes get a plan. So if you've
been to the top, work out when you leave, how

(37:11):
you leave, why you leave, and when you leave, stay left.
Don't come back. It doesn't work well. Fifteen past the.

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seven thirty This morning ar meantime at seventeen past, Trouble
and Principal and nine hundred and sixty seven principles have
quit in the past three years. Twenty percent in the
first year. We've got three hundred and fifty roles being advertised.
Each year since twenty twenty two. So Kate Gainsword is
the chair of the Secondary Principle's Council and is with
it's Kate morning to you, good morning mate. Just for

(37:48):
reference's sake, the nine to sixty seven quitting will some
of those include people quitting from one job to go
to another or not.

Speaker 25 (37:56):
Well, you'll have to ask the Ministry that I'm not
sure we've got the figures from, but that it is possible,
and some principles do move from smaller schools or rural
schools to city schools or letter schools. That's part of
the kind of pipeline for.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Careers because it sort of materially changes the number, doesn't it.
I mean, if you're simply quitting as a principle to
move to be a principal somewhere else, it sort of
doesn't count, doesn't If you're quitting to walk away from
the profession.

Speaker 25 (38:19):
Sure, yes, But I think one of the other figures
that the Ministry has been able to people is the
number of people who are new principles, and that's higher
than ever before. So that's the figure that tells us
that that nine sixty seven is probably you know, it
is much more about people who are stepping into the
role new.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Why would you quit within a year? Did you not
know what you were getting into?

Speaker 25 (38:41):
Well, I didn't do that, So I can only go
on the research, and the research tells us that there's
not a great deal of good, solid, reliable preparation for
principleship in New Zealand and our system. We have a
system that relies very heavily on short term contracts with
private providers, and they have sometimes those contracts have disappeared altogether.

(39:07):
So there used to be a program called aspiring principles
where people in middle or senior management could hook into
the scheme and there would be, you know, a process
you could go through to kind of figure out whether
it was for you or not and to kind of
prepare you. And other countries certainly have really solid systems
of preparation for principalship. In New Zealand doesn't have that.

(39:31):
And if you know, there's a part of the role
that you can get used to when you're a teacher
and a middle leader and a senior leader, and there's
a part of the role that you can only learn
when you are in the job because you're the only
person in the school in that role. So the support
around it has in New Zealand not been great in
preparation and that's part of the recent people good and

(39:52):
so I.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Can't pressure Kate Gainsford, who's the chair of the Secondary
Principals Association, might have might have a cock up another
one from Reserve Bank. I'll tell you about it that
in the moment seven twenty.

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Now the mail I'm getting got a bit more official yesterday,
with Fitch suggesting they think the Reserve Bank isn't done.

(41:18):
A lot of people thought the Reserve Bank was done
cutting the cash rate. This is filling and well the filling.
Governor Hawksby basically said as much last week. Now on
the inference that it was over. What's happening here as
swap rates on the wholesale market have started going up. Now,
why should you care about this? Well, because if you
owe money to a bank, a lot of their income
to lend comes from wholesale markets. It goes up, so

(41:39):
does your interest bill, which is what has been happening
since last Thursday. Now this is where we get into
subtlety and nu once technically, Hawksby said the bank remains
open to further action. So if you line Hawksby up
in a court, you could defend himself. But as always
in these matters, it's the in between the line, you know,
it's the nod and the wink stuff that the markets read,
and they're reading an end and as a result, the
numbers are rising, tied in but sort of in a sight.

(42:02):
If another cutter is coming, as Fitch suggests, things are
further complicated with our dollar given places like Australia are
doing the opposite. Of course, their reserve bank is closer
to hiking than cutting. That affects how the world sees
our economy and our currency. In at eighty seven Australian
and forty three to the pound, we look anemic. Fitch,
for good measure, seems downbeat about our recovery as well.
They're calling two percent growth next year. That's GDP two percent.

(42:24):
They were saying two point seven. Now this brings in
the government. The government in election year would like two
point seven over two percent. Obviously two percent they can
work with. I guess but two point seven that would
be a home court advantage, wouldn't it. And if you
want one more thing that kind of backs up the fitch.
Funk Black Friday, as Andrew told us, didn't work. Spinning
was down on last year. Personally, I think that's about

(42:44):
it being a crock of you know what, and it's
more clickbait these days than it is bargains and people
are basically over being ripped off. But that's just me
so anyway, hawksby with a trail of questions left behind
as he heads off to the beach. If you were
one of the so often quoted ones who are rolling
out of one mortgage into another, these still seem to
be some pretty tricky times to try and get it right,

(43:05):
and you want to hope that Fitch basically is misread it.
Pasking Mike Roy Morgan Pole do you hold much weight
in their polling? Lium none whatsoever. I don't hold any
weight in any polling these days. I know for a
fact that getting people to be involved in polling is
nine on and possible. So the model, in my humble opinion,

(43:25):
is looking increasingly ropie for what it's worth. Roy Morgan
for November have National Act in New Zealand First on
fifty percent, which is up a smadge against Labour, Greens
and Maori which is down a smadge fifty plus forty
four and a half. National up a bit to thirty three.
In z First nine Act eight unchanged, Labor down a
bit to twenty eight, Greens on fourteen and a half.

(43:46):
I mean, come on, Mary Party on two. Five and
a half percent of people support other minor parties outside
of Parliament, namely two and a half percent support the
Opportunities Party in three percent support other minor parties. All
the tin hat stuff, Miketa. We won't see you on
Dancing with the Stars. No, I won't once I'm gone.
I'm gone, I promise you that. And apart from anything,
there is no Dancing at the Stars. They're canceled that

(44:08):
a long time ago, along with so many other things
in the media these days. Liam Lawson, he's back in
twenty six for racing balls. Peter Windsor is back with
us after the news, which is next your news talk said.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
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news talks dead be six.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Wednesday, after it's been scrutiny week, of course, which has
been a miss mixture of sort of seeming interesting and
kind of what you would have expected at both ends
of the spectrum. Mike Mitchell, Ginny Anderson shortly twenty three
minutes away from mat and in the funny old world
of Formula one. The good news, Liam Lawson survives his
debut season. Of course he stays with racing balls for
twenty six se He is to be joined by Arvid Lindbladd.

(44:52):
Isaac Hadger gets the promotion to Red Bull next to
maxbi Stat and of course Peter Winter former Ferrari in
William's Man is back. Where's Peter morning to you? Now?

Speaker 4 (45:02):
We you?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah? Thank you? Were you surprised for a while there?
If you go back a few weeks that was it
was touch and go, wasn't It could have gone either way?

Speaker 20 (45:14):
I'm not so sure it could have.

Speaker 22 (45:16):
Actually, I think it was pretty clear mid season they
we're going to run Zaki Jar alongside Max Verstappen, and
also pretty clear that they were keen on linn Blad
and if you're going to run lind Blad at Racing Bulls.
Who you're going to put him next to Yuki Sonoda
or Liam Lawson. Much better to put him next to
Liam Lawson. For sure, they'll get on well. He'll learn
from Liam, and Liam I think will flourish now a

(45:39):
in a senior role in the team with a young
rookie alongside him.

Speaker 20 (45:43):
I think that'll be the best out in Liam and.

Speaker 22 (45:45):
Anyway, I think Liam's driving it's become a little bit
more polished over the last six months, whereas Yukie Sonoda
is basically sunk without trace. So for me, it's not
a surprise and I don't think there was much choice
in it really.

Speaker 20 (45:58):
To me, it's pretty logical.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
What's the risk in Lindbladd being so young and inexperienced.
I mean, say whatever you want about Yuki at least
he's been there a while, no risk at all.

Speaker 20 (46:10):
But there's no downside in running him in the Racing
Bulls team.

Speaker 22 (46:13):
It's their second team, it's their B division team, and
they've got lots of young drivers under contract, lots of
them all over the world. He's one that they really
think is a future star, so you know he's ready
to be put in the Formula one car and there's
no risk there at all.

Speaker 20 (46:28):
What's no pressure on him? Really?

Speaker 22 (46:30):
Every time he gets near Liam, people will think, wow,
he's doing a great job.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
How does this work given you've been on the inside,
Because if you look at results, Lindblad isn't that successful
and F two there are others that, if you looked
at just purely on paper, are faster drivers with better results.
What do they see in him? Well, it's a very
very good question.

Speaker 22 (46:52):
I was watching lind Blad's body language after an F
two race quite recently, and he just looked like a
Formula one driver that was very confident with It's just
his mannerisms and the way he was conducting himself. He
didn't look like a young kid rookie. He looked like
somebody who knew where he was going. And I suspect
there's a bit of that red bull, but quite susceptible to.

Speaker 20 (47:13):
Star quality should we.

Speaker 22 (47:15):
Call it that, rather than just sheer driving talent and
studying of technique. And so I think he fits the
red bull mold, as does Liam, you know, and the
way Liam presents himself. And if you look at a
guy like leonardovna Oli, for example, he's just won the
Formula two championship and only Scott a McLaren deal now,
but it's the first Formula One deal he's had for

(47:36):
a long time.

Speaker 20 (47:37):
Nobody was really interested in him.

Speaker 22 (47:38):
He's a lot less glamorous than Linn Blad and so
I think it's that, you know, it's sad to say.

Speaker 20 (47:45):
I think it's that. I think there's a lot of
glamour in the.

Speaker 22 (47:47):
Way Red Bull do their choices and work with young drivers,
and that's part of the whole Netflix. Formula One is
a business as much as it's a show these days.
And yeah, I mean he may be very very good,
but he's certainly you know, he's certainly gone a lot
going for from a Red Bull perspective in terms of
his is the way he presents himself.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
What have you made of Liam? The season has bounced
back from the Red Bull the motion and where does
he go next year? Do you think?

Speaker 20 (48:15):
Well, yeah, I mean I.

Speaker 22 (48:17):
Did predict that it would be very difficult for him
alongside is zak Haja last time we spoke, and because
I think Isach is just a class driver who gets
into corners a little bit earlier. He's got the finesse
and touch that enables him to do that. It's not
just a question of choosing a different line. He actually
has a suppleness and a touch about his driving that
is reminiscent of some qualities of Max Fistappen and Charlie Clerk.

(48:40):
He's very, very talented, but I think Liam is a
sort of Carlos Siens type driver.

Speaker 20 (48:45):
He gets in a bit later to the corner. He
likes to get the rear loaded up.

Speaker 22 (48:49):
He's got great car control, great balance, and I think
the second half of this year he's done what Carlos
sites started to do. He's looked at what he can
do in a race car and he said, right, this
is about the way I'm going to drive the rest
of my life. Now I'm going to try and polish
that and make sure I make fewer mistakes. I'm more
adaptable to different conditions, to the variables, and here I
will be.

Speaker 20 (49:10):
For the next four or five years. I mean, I think,
to be honest, his only future is at Red Bull.

Speaker 22 (49:15):
I can't imagine he's going to get a drive somewhere
else if he loses the Red Bull drive at the
end of twenty six. But I'm sure he's not thinking
about anything more than the next couple of months.

Speaker 20 (49:25):
At the moment. Most racing people, any of them, think
about three months ahead.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
The interesting thing about it is, of course the hedger
I concur with what you say about his talent. But
do we know what he's in next year? By way
of a car, does anybody know what their car is
next to you?

Speaker 22 (49:40):
Well, no, they don't, any more than we know what
the McLaren, Mercedes, Red Bull or Ferrari are going to be.
Nobody knows because it's a completely new regulation, completely new car,
totally different sort of car, and completely new power unit
as well, fifty percent electric power units. So nobody knows,
and none of the engineers have a clue about what
the opposition of doing. They can only focus on their

(50:01):
own car. And we probably won't even know after the
first test because a lot of teams will be playing
around with bits and bobs. We won't know really until
we get to the first race where we actually stand.
And so lots of people love to make comments and
rumors about this power unit or that power unit, but
nobody knows. That's the bottom line. Red Bull could have
a great, great car next year. They may not but

(50:24):
they could they could have, you know, the equivalent of
the McLaren.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Interesting Peter, always good to catch uppreciate it very much.
We'll get John again. Soo Peter Windsor, who is a formot.

Speaker 20 (50:31):
To talk to you?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Thank you, No wherries at all. Ferrari and William's interesting
comments about Lawson in his future over the next four
or five years. He's basically with Red Bull seventeen minutes
away from eight asking if you listen to James vows
he says it's impossible to outdrive the car. They maximize
the car where others can't. I'm not sure I agree.
I mean, yeah, you know, James Vowels locked in fifth
place as far as the constructors are concerned, so he's

(50:52):
taken them from ninth to fifth. So I guess you've
got to say he knows what he's doing, right decision, Mike.
We've just booked to go watch Liam Monza in September.
I thought Monza was done. Maybe it's the last year.
Maybe it's the last year. Certainly the last year. This
year is out next year at Zandford. But I thought
Monza was done. So if you book for Monza, and
I'm right, and it is done, You'll you'll have a

(51:13):
very sort of quiet, peaceful weekend because no one will
be there. But I'm assuming, I'm assuming you know more
than I do. Was seventeen to.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
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Speaker 2 (51:28):
Well done, Zumala not in Monza, Immila Mons has been extended,
Monico has been extended to Monica has been extended for
another ten years. I think anyway, Mike, I think the
whole of New Zealand's you buy a can of red
Ball and charged the glasses to Liam Lawson to congratulate
him for being such an awesome KEI we Mike, just
a heads up your audience as sick of hearing about
Formula one. Mate. Honestly, you're the sort of person who

(51:49):
holds this country back. It's not about Formula one. It's
about one of the pre eminent sports in the world,
one of the few truly global sports, and in New
zealand's a serious parts and that sport. That's what it's about.
It's about celebrating as a country. Mike, I've had you
doesn't perform. Could Lawson be promoted again, I guess anything
that's anything as possible. But I was interested in I say,

(52:09):
in Peter's comments that Lawson's inextricably tied for his career
to Red Bull, Mike's previously a chair of a school board.
Really striking feature of principles as they come through a
pathway that's absolutely got no basis in business, and yet
managing the school is essentially managing a small or sometimes
quite large business with accountability to the board. In the ministry,

(52:30):
this often results in a tug of war between the
principal's values and the needs of the school. I've seen
it happen again and again, struggles with budget, struggles with
managing expectations. The development pathway isn't ideal. It's a very
good point, and I think they made that on the
program earlier. But I'm endlessly fascinated in the number of
teachers who seem miserable and something's not right. So when
you enter teachers college, do you not know what you're

(52:54):
getting into? Do you have no comprehension whatsoever of what
the classroom is like, what kids are like, what teaching
is like, what education is like. I mean, clearly they've
got no understanding what they're going to earn, because the
first thing they do when they pop out the other
end get into classroom as mowe and complain and strike
about what they're ruining. And then you get to a principle.
I just don't know how you can take a job
and one year later quit unless you had no idea

(53:16):
what you were walking into. I mean, every now and again,
once in a blue moon, Sure the odd person made
a mistake, that's fine, but clearly they're suggesting that it
happens time and time and time again. How is it
possible that you can be a senior player in education?
You can have some experience and you're thinking yourself, right,
our next step principle, I'm going to run the school
or that school, or whatever the case, and then one

(53:37):
year later go it's not for me. I mean, what
was it you didn't know going into it, Mike, International
team's taking part time jobs from New Zealand teams is
not a good thing. Why not? That's how the whole
world works. For goodness sake, that that's how immigration works.
For every immigrant you bring into the country apparently are
they may or may not be taking a job from
a local person. But we need to grow, we need

(53:58):
more people. I've got some numbers for why were you
most expensive houses for the year. This is from trade
me this morning. The collective top ten is two hundred
and fifty million dollars, so that's about twenty five million apiece.
The most expensive house sold in this country this year
was thirty five million. It was in Herne Bay in Auckland.
You had one sold at twenty eight million. In fact,
you had a couple of sold at twenty eight million,
two sold at twenty eight million dollars. Then you got

(54:19):
down to third. That was also an Auckland at twenty
two million, and by the time you get down to
number ten you're down to twelve million. In fact, eleven
point nine everything sold in the country was in Auckland,
with the exception of the fifth equal place, which was
Queenstown at eighteen million. One was sold in Wonicer at
fourteen million, and then it was a Taupo residence at
eleven point nine million, So some big sales were still

(54:42):
made in anotherwise fairly quiet sort of real estate market.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
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Speaker 2 (54:51):
I seven away from it. The Boosbury culture continues to expand. Currently,
let me give you some numbers. Forty three billion dollar
business looking to expand to eighty two billion in the
next ten years. This is globally Free. AF is the
New Zealand brand. Of course, it's now expanding into the
UK nationwide. In fact, they've just kind of all the
supermarket chain Morrison's and Lisa King is the drinks founder
and as well there's Lisa Morning.

Speaker 13 (55:12):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
The US story. Tell me about that. Have you been
successful there? And if you're successful in the US, how
do you grow further into a place like the UK.

Speaker 21 (55:21):
Yeah, So we launched in the US about ten and
a half years ago, and you know, it was actually
just starting out Lake New Zealand was when we first
launched back into at the end of twenty twenty and
so we were one of the first nine OUC ready
to Drink cocktail brands to launch in the US supermarkets
and we started worth four hundred stores in the US

(55:43):
and we're now close to about four.

Speaker 13 (55:45):
Thousand WOW stores.

Speaker 21 (55:47):
So in a very very short time, that category in
that space has just exploded and now you see products
alcohol free products like ours just pretty much everywhere, and
similar to what we've seen happen in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
What's driving it? Is it youth or something else.

Speaker 21 (56:07):
There's definitely the stories around you know, gen z and
young people drinking less, but actually it's just this huge
trend towards moderation and people. A lot of people are
still drinking alcohol, but they're just moderating it and choosing,
you know, sometimes to drink a little less or in
between drinks, they're drinking non alcoholic versions. So there's definitely

(56:29):
more a drive towards moderating and reduction and being more
mindful about what you're drinking.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Is the spend down on the economy, So are you
part of an economic story when an economy contracts, you contract?
Or do people drink anyway and they may drink it
non alcohol and therefore you're not affected.

Speaker 21 (56:46):
We haven't seen the impact like I think a lot
of other industries or brands or companies have. It's definitely,
you know, like alcohol is in decline globally, but for
alcohol free it's definitely what people are turning towards, and
so we haven't had that impact.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Now what about cultures? See I get it in a
place like California, maybe Florida where you are this morning.
You know they're called that. I get all of that.
In Britain, it's a different culture, isn't it, And booze
is a big part of it.

Speaker 21 (57:17):
Yeah, and everyone's really surprised, you know, to hear that
actually a lot of Brits are choosing to go alcohol free.
And you know, half of UK adults now drink low
or no alcohol products and even pub visits like one
in three pub visits are now alcohol free in the UK,

(57:37):
and so it is surprising. But there is a huge
behavioral shift in the UK as well. And you know
with the lakes of say Guinness zero. I've just read
somewhere that with an online shopping channel Ocado that Guinness
zero is out selling Guinness.

Speaker 17 (57:53):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Unreal interesting times, Lisa, go well with it. I'm glad,
You're glad you're enjoying your success. Lisa King, who's the
Aphia Drinks founder againner zero. I was actually reading an
article yesterday or the day before about ire Ireland and
it's linked to alcohol and you sort of you know,
first thing your dad does is roll you down to
the pub when you're sixteen and introduce you to the
guinness and that's your life and it's socializing its small villages.

(58:15):
It is what it is, teachers quip Mike for two reasons.
The first beIN appalling behavior of children. The second is
the ridiculous amount of reporting and administration. Well see that,
I mean, all right, say that's true. How is it
you don't know that going into the profession? I mean,
isn't that what training is all about? At the end
of the day, aren't you sort of work for that?
And especially once you get experienced, the next thing you

(58:35):
do is, well do you want to run the school
when you've got a school like that? And what you see?
What I mean it does the dots don't join. As
far as I can work out, Mike Mitchell, Ginny Anderson,
it is scrutiny week. We're having our own scrutiny week.
One of my costing breakfast day or with us after
the news, which is next your news talk.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
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with a Lea's real estate doing real estate?

Speaker 3 (59:01):
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Speaker 2 (59:04):
B from Corney Island.

Speaker 13 (59:09):
Who the sunsets strip?

Speaker 24 (59:11):
Somebody's gone to make a happy trip tonight.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
While the moon is bright.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
It's Michael Root players. He's going to have a bag
of Creation's Trician Yearwood together. It's called Christmas Time, which
probably doesn't get great marks for creativity, but you can't
argue with you know, you're not lost, are you? You
know what you're dealing with? Produced by Don Was, who's
one of my favorites. It's due out, Actually, what's the
day to day? It's not even happier and you're it's

(59:38):
not due out for a couple of days there anyway,
Tricia Yearwood at her most elegant and emotionally resonant. It's
her first solo Christmas album since The Sweetest Gift back
in nineteen ninety four, and who hasn't got a copy
of the first holiday project overall since her twenty sixteen
debut album with Garth Christmas Together. These seem originals, and

(01:00:03):
I correct them saying that or are these are songs
I don't recognize? They will claim to have Triuty Yearwood
and she's written them. You're a mean one, mister Brinch,
Cool Rule, Blue and Christmas Anyway. There are twelve of
these are thirty nine minutes and thirty nine seconds. Put
your yearwood best for a voult. It is eight minutes

(01:00:23):
past eight. Mark mitchells with us along with Jinny Anderson
Mording Morning, Morning morning, Good morning, morning morning, Mike, can jey, Good.

Speaker 7 (01:00:30):
Morning to you both?

Speaker 13 (01:00:31):
Last is our last show together?

Speaker 17 (01:00:34):
Is that right for this?

Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
Yes?

Speaker 23 (01:00:35):
The year?

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
So you might? Are you not here back next week?
You two? What's happening?

Speaker 18 (01:00:39):
No, we're we're back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
We're back.

Speaker 18 (01:00:42):
We didn't negotiate a good enough contract like you, so
we sort of stuck with it.

Speaker 13 (01:00:47):
With those amazing ratings.

Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
Do you put the ratings down to your rape, your
wit or is it the magic DJ voice that makes
those ratings so sweet?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I think you've hit the nail on the head there, Jinny.
And that's why you're my favorite in the segment, because
you ones. It's the combination, it's the combinations, it's all
the magic coming together. Now, look, I need some insight
from both of you. I've been watching Trump's cabinet meeting,
which has been going since before six o'clock this morning
in New Zealand time, and all it happens is that

(01:01:16):
you go round the table and we go, Ginny, a
report from you, please, Mark A report from it is that, Ginny,
Is that how a durn slash Hipkins ran cabinet?

Speaker 26 (01:01:26):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:01:26):
No, not at all. No, you should have all have
a talk, you discuss an issue and who starts?

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Does the Prime Minister of the day say on the agenda?

Speaker 26 (01:01:35):
Is?

Speaker 7 (01:01:37):
You do have an agenda and that's also made public
so you can you know, you can cabinet minutes and
kibnet agendas, but the detailed conversation usually is confidential.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Okay, is that how we run? Labeled?

Speaker 18 (01:01:49):
Probably labor labor cabnet probably would probably sit the Holy
the hand sing comboya that's probably the major.

Speaker 13 (01:01:58):
Fea re seat seat several months and just they throw.

Speaker 18 (01:02:02):
They can spray more money around the place they're actually
delivery anythink. But no, that's not how the cabinets run.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
CMO.

Speaker 18 (01:02:08):
The Prime minister runs a kbinet and we have kept that.
You have cabinet papers that come up that are then
discussed and debated. And let's how the cabinets run.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
On average, Jenny, in your time, how long does a
cabinet meeting go? Roughly?

Speaker 7 (01:02:23):
Can It can be look an hour and a half
to two hours depending But if you've got a really
big agenda. Often towards the end of the year, there's
lots of things you want to get through, so you
can have a longer agenda than usual. So it does
depend on what's happening at that time, and of course
you can have urgent issues. So if there's been a
natural disaster or there's urgent action, you get things bumped up.

Speaker 13 (01:02:47):
They have to be in dressed immediately.

Speaker 18 (01:02:48):
Yours an hour and a half manksh between half an
ear and two hours, depending on what's on the agenda.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Does anybody in the room go, oh, just one more thing?

Speaker 13 (01:03:01):
Take the team more all the time?

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Time?

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
I love it now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Scrutiny week, What was so yesterday? Jenny? Would you defend
what happened with Nikola Willison your three? Because that just
turned into sort of a not to put two fine
a point on a bitch slap, didn't it?

Speaker 23 (01:03:21):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:03:21):
It was scrappy, But I mean there's clear stats showing
that there's been lease investment and infrastructure, and she's saying
the opposite. So you could see how people get frustrated
when they're saying the complete opposite to what the data shows.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Okay, but did you learn anything?

Speaker 13 (01:03:38):
Do we learn anything? Well, we had for police, which
was in depth.

Speaker 7 (01:03:44):
You get quite a lot of time when you're going
through line by line where money was spent or not
spent and what happened that caused that to happen.

Speaker 13 (01:03:52):
So you don't get to see that kind of stuff
on the news.

Speaker 7 (01:03:55):
You get the grabs, but the detailed, line by line
scrutiny of the past year's budget where it went, that's
useful here, okay.

Speaker 18 (01:04:02):
And they don't prepare the problem is with this opposition
and labor, they don't prepare for the sweet committees. It's
their chance to come prepared and scrutinize the governments point
part of our democracy. They don't come prepared. So what
they do is they just yell and shout and scream
and put things out there and hope that one of
the media pick it up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
What's your look?

Speaker 7 (01:04:22):
Here's one of my questions yesterday here the Order to
General and Treasury have both found corporate functions within police
and an up to standard. Did the reduction of nineteen
point six millionaire for four years in corporate functions of
primary responsements contribute towards the failure of this target?

Speaker 13 (01:04:37):
And Mark's like, I.

Speaker 18 (01:04:38):
Don't know after Gods, there is simply this is that
when I became minister, the police were broke because you
hadn't funded the properly. We had to put one hundred
and twenty million dollars in to support those core functions
because you hadn't funded them. They were a week away. Jilly,
you want the answer, giving you the answer. When I
became minister, the police were about to become go broke.

(01:05:00):
They were a week away from breaching their appropriation. We
had to immediately put one hundred and twenty million dollars
in to provide those core services because you had not
funded them. They had stopped recruiting to save money.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Good question, good answer, your approach you.

Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
Well, that's a love yeah, the answer, but it fails
to address why you took money out of your ears
and why was the road policing budget.

Speaker 13 (01:05:25):
I just told you six million over it. You did
the same I just told you.

Speaker 18 (01:05:30):
I just told you that we put more money immediately
into police to stabilize because you had because you had
not funded them, they had stopped.

Speaker 13 (01:05:38):
Recruiting andrew our services.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Very proud, Well, we've put more.

Speaker 18 (01:05:43):
We had put more funding and resource in the front line.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
That is true.

Speaker 18 (01:05:46):
And by the way, they're delivering outstanding results.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Now we have gone all questions, good answers, drinks and
well just the weekend, holidays, brief break more in a moment, No,
you guys, carry on. They were a make fourteen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
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Speaker 14 (01:06:07):
It be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Seventeen past eight, Mark and Jinny with Mark. From your
point of view, is this the third year of scrutiny
in whatever year it is, is it worth it? Is
there something to be gained out of the exercise.

Speaker 18 (01:06:19):
Yeah, I think it's important as part of our democracy,
and it is a way for the opposition to hold
the Gunment to account and that is important. But it's
just that they's a what total complete waste of time
because the opposition aren't organized, they don't really know how
to scrutinize it, that they don't come prepared. And that's
exactly where you saw the debarcle yesterday at the Finance
Committee were all they could do was was was yelling
and you know, and they have got.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
The finest fits.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
That's crazy, you would argue with Joe probably.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
You would argue, though, Ginny that see I saw just
the clips of Chambers on the news, for example, and
which was a regurgitation of what he's already said about
a thousand times before you would argue there was more
that wasn't covered therefore that was of genuine value.

Speaker 7 (01:07:00):
Well that there was three hours in total, and Mark
Mattal came for the last forty five minutes of that.
But we had a structured agenda where we go right
through all different areas that the committee agrees on, and
we look at things like where is money being spent,
where is it not being spent.

Speaker 13 (01:07:15):
We get to understand things like.

Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
The falsification of the breath alcohol breath testing, trying to
understand what parts of the country that was in, asking
what would be the incentive of doing that, why were
they doing that?

Speaker 13 (01:07:27):
Is it likely to happen again?

Speaker 7 (01:07:29):
So while it's the bits you see reported are the
politicized and fiery bits, there's a whole lot going in
there where MPs get to ask genuine questions, and usually
from officials, not from ministers, to be honest, you get
some detailed, good answers that help us scrutinize it.

Speaker 18 (01:07:46):
So can I just clarify I just want to clarify
one thing. I was not invited by the committee to
go to scrutiny yesterday. The commissioner was, and that's normally
what happens. I approached the committee and said I would
like to come and a peer. I think with everything
that's gone on with the IPCA report, with everything that's happening,
it's important that I appear in front of the committee.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
I was not asked, I was not compelled to go.

Speaker 18 (01:08:07):
So I just want to correct Jenny's little thing there
about me being here for forty five minutes. That's the
time the committee gave me when I went back and
said I would like to come and peer in front of.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
The coma for enough Maori seats, Jinny, what's the argument
in your party for chasing them apart from the fact
you want to win it and it's called to win.
But if you're looking to up in the government next year,
wouldn't you be better off cutting a deal with the
Maori Party getting an overhang because splitting an overhang makes
it harder for the government to be the government.

Speaker 7 (01:08:35):
We want to win every one of those seats, and
we'll be working hard to rewinds that we do because
we believe that we want to form a government and
we want those seats represented by Labor.

Speaker 13 (01:08:45):
Mardi imps.

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
Our Mardi Labor Caucus knows that best outcomes for Mardi
are when Mardi and Parker and all other people work together,
and that gives the best outcomes for New Zealand and
the best outcomes for Mardi.

Speaker 13 (01:09:00):
And that's what we believe in.

Speaker 18 (01:09:03):
I think the best the best out comes from Mary
at the moment is under the current present government. We
are with our latest crime stats as assaults serious assaults
on Mary have dropped significantly. Education, everything's hidden in the
right direction in terms of achievement for me, for married students,
that's what matters. That's what matters Ginny, not you guys.

Speaker 7 (01:09:23):
They're not really prosecution up under you. The number of
Maori being prosecuted has increased under you, disproportionately in some areas,
but for low level of fending.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
And so you know we've been we've been very clear.

Speaker 13 (01:09:41):
If your fish, I'd like to finish one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
And then there'll be a sanction for that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Are you guys looking forward to election?

Speaker 21 (01:09:47):
You?

Speaker 13 (01:09:53):
New Zealand is out there looking for them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
I'm just going to say you realize is why I
take a long holiday because I know that nexte.

Speaker 13 (01:10:01):
You're going to need it to recharge.

Speaker 18 (01:10:03):
My Merry Christmas to you and Kate Mate. I hope
it's genuinely. I hope you have a great break.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
I hope you have time over the summer. Will Where
are you going, Ginny?

Speaker 13 (01:10:11):
I'm going to Castle Point, which is lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
It's the upper coast, I know where, I know where
it is. But blowy, yeah, but blowing it is.

Speaker 13 (01:10:19):
It's quite nice though. It's got a lagoon area, good
wineries nearby. I quite like the wild weather, so it's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Where are you going?

Speaker 18 (01:10:27):
Well, apparently calling to Ginny, I've got a private island
in Bali. I wish that was true, but were going
up there for ten days. My daughter and her family
live in Dubai, so we are meeting them halfway and
I'm going to get to see my two year old granddaughter.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Oh that's exciting.

Speaker 14 (01:10:43):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
You can't semester of times. Where would you stay? By
the way, I'm looking to go to do but where
would you stay? Where's a nice place to stay with
the pool? Well, I mean there's there's so much choice.

Speaker 18 (01:10:54):
Any of the Emirates Group hotels are fantastic, you know,
so Dubai Creek if you go the get to all
the old suits and things like that, experience.

Speaker 16 (01:11:06):
What he might.

Speaker 13 (01:11:11):
To a wigi if you go down.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Put that up on socials too, mate, Jenny, calm down.
Nice to see you, very very Merre Christmas to both
of you, and happy holidays and all of that will
look for you next to you. Take thanks for having
us on this great pleasure. Jenny Anderson Mark match of
late twenty.

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Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
I tell you this for nothing. Plenty of New World
shop is super surprised to loom. They've earned the New
World dollars just from you know, going to the supermarket.
So according to the New World, there are loads loads
of New World dollars out there just waiting to be
spent this Christmas, so you can use them to treat
yourself to something a little bit extra maybe, or indeed
save on your next shop at New World. Now, if
you don't know what your New World dollar balance is,

(01:11:53):
why not check it out. Because one New World dollar
is it called to one New Zealand dollar. When you
spend in store or online, so you can check your
balance by asking the ever helpful New World team at
the checkout, or if you want to download that New
World app. Christmas perfect time to spend New World dollars
after all. And how do you earn these New World dollars? Well,
you earn them by using your club card when you
shop in store or online and even through the app.

(01:12:14):
And it's all happening at the moment, this festive season
at New World.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Pasky, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
We have a friend who was the school principal. She
ended up resigning two years ago. She's now a relief
teacher three and a half days a week. She makes
more money relief teaching than she did as a principal.
I find that hard to believe. She was doing massive
hours and handing out money out of her own pocket
for school supplies. It's not a good system. Nice insight,
Thank you, Mike. As a principle, if you aren't supported
by a team with a good attitude, you are pushing
the probubial up. He'll look more broadly as to why

(01:12:41):
the resignations might be so high. Somewhere in the the
middle will lie the truth, of course, but more on
That is the show unfolds this morning. Interesting probe and
to why the Coalition did so fantastically poorly in the
last election in Australia. Some people put it down to
Dutton Dutton alone, some people put it down to the
nuclear pot, some people put it down to the work
from home policies. The latest report, which is not to

(01:13:04):
be published but some bits have come out, link it
to Trump. The closer that Dutton was aligned with trump
perception of the worse it got for Dutton interesting as
so while Trump was successful, Dutton was not for the
same reasons that made Trump successful. Dutton was not so.
More from Steve Price after the News which is next
Hereat News Talks.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Tough on Power, Sharp On Inside the Mike Hosking Breakfast
with Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way News Talks head
been Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
I'm interested in how Hadja goes in the red Pool
car given that Liam couldn't get a grip with it,
neither could Yuki must be so hard to drive, Pault.
It's a very good point, but you must also understand
next year's got a completely different car, whole new regulations,
completely different brand, new car. So whether the problems that
currently exist continue to exist. Is interesting, Mike. You could
stay at the Royal Atlantis, which is where the other

(01:13:57):
drivers are staying this week, and how you know that?
But it's a very nice hotel, the Royal Atlantis, of course,
twenty three minutes away.

Speaker 17 (01:14:04):
From nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace
of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
And I was waiting to see apply. Very good morning
to you. Hello that now. Immigration, see immigration seems to
be we're lucky because we're Ireland nations and we don't
have the same sort of problem that places like Britain
does but you have. Would it be fair to suggest
if you ask the average Australian too many immigrants?

Speaker 9 (01:14:27):
Yeah, it's a massive issue in this country. And if
you do polling after cost of living, immigration levels comes
up every time. Now, the Coalition had a policy during
the last election. They lost, so they've got to come
up with a new one and they seem completely split
down the middle. Most Australians would say, look, let's have
a pause on mass immigration and let's work out who

(01:14:48):
we're bringing in, why we're bringing them in, and what
they're going to do when they get here. Because you
pile on top of just the basic question of how
big are our big city is too big, and then
you have the housing issue, and one of the biggest
problems in Australia is there's not enough houses for people
since Labor came to power. So you know, take it,
let's say three years, a three year first term, and

(01:15:10):
then they're a little bit into their second the immigration
level is up around about a million people, so that's
the size of Adelaide in three and a bit years.

Speaker 25 (01:15:20):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:15:20):
The Coalition have to come up with a number, but
they seem unwilling to do so. They say that Susan
Lee will come out with a migration policy before the
end of the year. But when you look at what
they're talking about, it's not really about rule numbers. They're
sort of dancing around the issue. They are talking about
tradees and one of the problems we're having in Australia, Mike,

(01:15:42):
is we don't have enough people to build houses. So
that's why I've got a house and shortage. And it
seems that of all the people who have come into
the country, not enough tradees have come into the country.
And so you've got to target year migration four thousand
tradees only came into the country during that one million
that came into Usustralian So he might ask, what are
the rest of these people doing? Well, a lot of

(01:16:03):
them are foreign students studying, obviously, and a lot of
them work in low paid jobs, not in the trades
that you need. We need eighty thousand tradees, according to
the opposition, to fix the building skill shortfall. So they're
tearing themselves apart, while at the same time the government
basically says nothing and just keeps on piling people into
the country hoping that those that come here vote to them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
You've got the same problem we have, except we're not
as attractive as you clearly are at the moment. So
you know, we target, but we don't have the people
in the right places. This report, by the way, I've
been mentioning on the program this morning, the sort of
so called secret bought the Coalition have done blaming duttont.
I mean, the numbers came out the other day. He's
just just unbelievably unpopular, famously historically unpopular. And then there's

(01:16:47):
this link to Trump. The more aligned with Trump he was,
the less popular he became. Happened in Canada with pollieb
as well, which is interesting. So they still do you
think they lever walk past us, get past this distance
themselves and move on.

Speaker 9 (01:17:02):
Well, they have to, and that's why they've elected Susan
Lee as the leader. They hope that changing from male
to female will do that, and from someone who was
described as more conservative and Peter Dutton and Susan Lee,
who's more of a moderate, might fix the problem. But
looking back and blaming Peter Dutton for everything he is
probably not sensible. They had a polling outfit called fresh

(01:17:22):
Water that worked on their election campaign for them. I'd
be pointing fingers at people who were running that outfit
as opposed to just blaming Peter Dutton. Peter Dutton, by
the way, it has been silent almost since he lost
that election. He's saying nothing. He's just walked away and
he's going to let them rip themselves apart. I mean,
it's easy to blame Dutton, but there's a whole lot

(01:17:43):
of mistakes they made.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Yeah, that's true. This e bike I was watching it
sort of as it happened yesterday. And once you got
two problems in Australia, as as I can work out one.
It was a classic example of you didn't think through
the problem before you let these these highly powered bikes
on the street. Too. You've got these different laws depending
on what state you're in, so when calamity strikes, as
inevitably was going to, you suddenly go, oh, we better

(01:18:05):
change the laws.

Speaker 9 (01:18:05):
A yeah, the slackers laws are in New South Wales.
You had a tragedy on Tuesday an e bike rider
in the middle of the CBD in Sydney got hit
by a garbage truck. Now an e bike, a rider
with no helmet and a garbage truck's only going to
win one way. That book person lost their life. So
the Premier, Chris Minds, has said, right, we need to
wind back the power of these things. Now, the problem

(01:18:27):
is that his new laws, his new legislation is not
going to come in for a while because Parliament takes
time to ratify these things. So anyone who wants to
buy an imported e bike that can run at five
hundred watts, now what does that mean, Well, they can
do over sixty kilometers an hour and they're eager to
go to an e bike shop. You can go and
buy one. You don't have to register it you don't
have to have a license, you don't have to be

(01:18:48):
any certain age, you don't have to do all of
the things that you would normally have to do if
you say, brought a motorscooter or a motorbike. So he
wants the bikes to be wound back to two fifty watts, Well,
I'll tell Chrismians what's going to happen. You can do that,
that's fine, But people will just take them to backyard
bike shops and get them wound back up to five hundred.
I mean, he can't stop that happening. The one thing

(01:19:11):
that they should do is these things should be registered
and the people writing them should need a license. I mean,
that's what they should do. But they don't seem willing
to do it. They think it's all going to save
the climate and it's all electric bikes or wonderful until,
as you say, you have a problem like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
That, exactly, Hey, did you was Rory round at your house?
Did you bring him around for a little bit of
sushi or something or a barbecue? What happened there we
speak of Rory McElroy.

Speaker 9 (01:19:34):
Of course I had dinner with him last night. No,
I went to Cracksino with about another one hundred and
fifty people. But it was great that Rory McElroy in
town is going to start in the Australian Open tomorrow.
The event is that Royal Melbourne, which is just considered
Australia's best golf course. It often features in the top
ten in the world. And he's going to be playing
with other stars like minwoo Lee who was also there

(01:19:57):
last night, and Mark Leishman that you had the live
golfers were in the room, and Adam Scott, who of
course also won the Masters. He wore his green jacket,
which I thought was very impressive of Rory McElroy sat
on the stage, spoke for about an hour and Melbourne
is a buzz with the fact that this event is on.
It looks like it's going to be the permanent home

(01:20:18):
of the Australian Open. It's not going to move, it's
just going to be played here.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
I take it they paid him to be there the.

Speaker 9 (01:20:24):
Rumored appearance for his two million dollars, which will be
more than the person of winning the tournament, which doesn't
give you a lot of incentive to win it. But
he talks of the famous names on matt golf tournament,
including Jack Nicholas, Greg Norman. Here, it's a long running
tournament and the big important thing is the people who

(01:20:45):
run the Masters in the United States have said from
now on, whoever wins the Australian Open will get a
permanent card into play in the Masters. I look forward
to talking to you on Monday, but I'll give you
an update on how the golf goes over the weekend
because it is going to be a great event and
I'm going to go a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Did you would you get would you get? Would you
get the yips? If if you will pay I just
I'm one of those people. If you're paying me two
million dollars just to turn up, I'd feel obligated to win,
and therefore, because I felt obligated, I'd get the yips.

Speaker 9 (01:21:21):
No, he's a super state, I get the yips. He's
if not the best golfer in the world, is in
the top two or three, so there'll be no yips
from him. There might be a few yips from me
if you're not there in the chair on Monday.

Speaker 14 (01:21:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
What, I can't look. How many weeks did you take
out of you in Greece. You're in Italy and I
was here the whole time. I just waited my way
through the year, so I like it.

Speaker 9 (01:21:45):
I'm just looking at the calendar. It's the third of December.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Yeah, well that's that's It's because Wednesday. I'm not finished yet, Steve.
I've got some time left, don't you worry.

Speaker 9 (01:21:54):
We'll enjoy yourself next year.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
All right, look forward to it. Make go well always
a pleasure price out of Australia. I think the campaign's
on to make me feel guilty about going on holiday.
I think, I think so I get a theme. I'm
just picking it is Wednesday. I'm starting to pick up
the theme.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Eight forty five The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast
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Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
A'd be remember it was a year ago, maybe two
years ago. There were mainly the tabloid media, but there
were endless stories about how Putin was dying, and Putin
had cancer, and Putin was shaking and Putin tapped his feet,
and Putin didn't well, and Putin was bloated and all
that other stuff. I was just looking at him now
with witcough around his particularly ghosh white table that he
insists on having, and he looks in fantastic shape for

(01:22:41):
a guy, and has said well into his seventies that
looks absolutely nothing wrong with them at all. So you
just wonder how much of it was ever real. Of course,
now speaking of ghost tables, although Trump's ghost table is
not as ghosh as Putin's ghost table, it's a big,
fairly ghost table though. But anyway, they had their cabinet meeting,
their ninth cabinet meeting, where they just went round around
in circles and top each other. How wonderful they were.

(01:23:02):
He talked, what do you talk about? Well, he talked
about scripting income tax.

Speaker 26 (01:23:05):
I believe that at some point in the not too
distant future you won't even have income tax to pay,
because the money would take it in is so great,
It's so enormous that you're not going to have income
tax to pay. Whether you get rid of it or
just keep it around for fun, or have it really low,
much lower than it is now, but you won't be

(01:23:25):
paying income tax.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
I like the idea of just keeping it around for fun.
I mean, what could be more fun? What can be
more fun than just keeping it around? Difficulty with his
argument there is of course, the Supreme Court haven't ruled
on the money. He's talking about the terror of money,
of course, and if they rule the wrong way, there
is no terror of money, and therefore there won't be
any fun anyway. You also talked about EVS.

Speaker 27 (01:23:44):
I terminated the insane electrical electric Vehicle mandate and look,
some people that make electric cars weren't happy with that.
But we have to do that because you have to
have a choice whether it's a gasoline powered car, and
we have so much gasoline. You know, China doesn't have gasoline.

(01:24:06):
We do now everybody was supposted. By twenty thirty, everybody
had an on an electric car under debate and stupidity,
and not everybody wants to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
I like electric cars. I like all cars. They're all good.

Speaker 27 (01:24:18):
They all have reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
But you want to be able to go and buy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
What you are the if I answered a test, I'm
doing like NCEEA level two and I say China has
no gasoline because Trump said so.

Speaker 20 (01:24:31):
And that all cars have reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Am I am? I marked correct or not? Nine minutes
away from nine the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
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are more seats coming between March and October of next year.
Fifty thousand more seats Queenstown to and from nine percent increase,
especially from Auckland, Auckland to christ Juche up by four percent,
Auckland to Road to Vegas and blend them up seven percent.
Biggest increases the christ Chuche Hamilton route, which is seventeen
percent more seats. Having said that there's not many seats
on the route currently because it's a comparatively new route. Overall,

(01:25:51):
christ Ute is going to benefit by about twenty five
thousand additional seats, So more seats I'm assuming puts pressure
on prices, which is good. Five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Trending now The AMS Warehouse The Real House of.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Fragrances, Amazon's released this morning. The most asked questions for
Alexa this year. Taylor Swift is a big part of
that particular equation. She topped or featured in a lot
of the categories most asked about. Celebrity and musician and
artist K Pop Demon Hunter Most requested song list. Five

(01:26:25):
of the top ten most requested songs of the year
were from K Pop Demon Hunters. Elon Musk featured Ronaldo
made an appearance. Most asked for album What was that?
There was Chapel rowan.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Sport.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
This is all right? The song I started, I started
out hating it, but then I thought I sort of
where was I. We asked more about League, then we
asked about union, which either says something about league and
union or people who use alexa. I suspect it's the latter.
More interest than the Warriors, than the all blacks, weirdest

(01:27:12):
entry local artists. You'll never get this. This is Blue
Eyed Maori by Corella. Their words population sizes. We want
to know about the population size of Australia, New Zealand,
the States, Islamic prayer. We asked a bit about that

(01:27:34):
election information across New Zealand and Australia. Cooking times for
the health conscious of eggs, chicken, broccoli, sweet potato, salmi. God,
we're boring, aren't we? How to cook just for yourself? Well,
Lexa would have said just cooked less. I would have thought,
wouldn't wouldn't that be the answer? Sleeping help, how to
fall asleep? That's what we are. Some of the said,

(01:27:54):
how to fall asleep, how to wa fall asleep? King's
birthday date queries, tomatoes tomato are free? That tired old questions?
To ask that tired old question. How to solve the
Rubik's que Get a brain? That would be the first question,
first answer. Anyway back tomorrow morning from six o'clock, as always,
Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
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