December 16, 2025 • 11 mins
Today Heather du Plessis-Allan was joined by Labour’s Ginny Andersen and National’s Mark Mitchell to recap the highs and lows of 2025 on the final Politics Wednesday for the year.
They also discussed the retail crime numbers, the state of the Government’s books, the need for a social media ban, and the situation with Nicola Willis and Ruth Richardson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson Politics Wednesday with Us. Now, how
are you.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Too, morning, Heather, Good morning Heather, Jenny.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
You will never have been at a party like that.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm sometimes the family ones can get you know, the
other worse ones sometimes, aren't they?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Are they?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
What happens?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Ginny? What happens?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You always have that there's an uncle or an auntie,
you know, and they sort of just have a couple
of mons. You too many? You don't have those in
your family?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh yeah, I mean my family is part half my
family is from South Africa, so you can probably guess
what my uncle's like. And we all sit there going wow,
like this is just you need to lay off those
those castle lagers.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Mitch.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I'm not going to ask you. I don't want to
embarrass you to. Ginny's already taken one for the team. Actually, Ginny,
what about those retail crime numbers?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Look, it's encouraging. We didn't set up or Or is
a private business, and so didn't they bring it to
increase the reporting? No, no, no, they're a private business.
They they set themselves up.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
They started in twenty fourteen. I've sort of been on
their journey a bit with them. Amazing company, great New
Zealand story, great people of the Prime Minister, and I
were at your new office last week. They are great
partners with police and yes, really encouraging to see the numbers.
Still a lot more to do, but really good to
see those violent crime stacks coming down.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, Gunny, are you going to congratulate Mtchi's obviously doing
some awesome work.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, it's good. It is good to see. I mean
we think, well, maybe it'll be better if they've got
the five hundred cops, but he's doing good. It's encouraging.
It's encouraging to see those numbers. And we saw globally
post COVID just weird spikes of really straight up crime
and it's nice to see that we're actually doing better
than Australia in this space. I think things not having
(01:47):
good police in place, but also having things like facial
recognition has really changed. So some of those technology changes
we've seen in the past while have also I think
helped to improve because that's definitely what retailers tell me.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Now, Mitch, what are we going to do about the
government box? What are you prepared to cut out of
your portfolios to save us some dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Well, we've already made big cuts. When we came into government,
we had to go through and we made significant cuts.
I had to do that in all of my port
files except for emergency management, and quite simply, we were
just we cut. We had to cut back office expendsure
and read, proprioritize and take that investment onto the front line.
And we have been doing that. But we've been said,
(02:27):
We've been very clear and Nicholas been very clear that
we're going to make the cuts, but we're going to
do it in a measured way so that we don't
go into hard austerity and we don't cause more harm
and more pain to the country than is necessary.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
We can't carry on the way that we are right
because we're in the red for the rest of the
decade and we're just borrowing to actually pay for the borrowing.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Now, there's a pathway back to surplus, and we are
committed to making sure that we're disciplined and we stay
on that pathway back to surplus. And that's the most
important thing.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, Ginny, are you still there. I heard a phone go.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
That's me Sorry, that's that was someone trying.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
To call me.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Who was calling you was it chippy?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It was my son Jack Holidays take joy asking for something.
It's that Jack Amanzi be So how old is Jack?
Jack is thirteen?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So it never it doesn't even stop at thirteen. Th
Still it's not a phone at thirteen?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Ny he well he has, yes, he does have.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And does he have access to the social media?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
No he does not, he does not have.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Is this a family rule?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I just think you're too young. I don't want them
seeing silly stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
How hard is that for you to enforce?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's not easy. You have the odd fight, but I'm
pretty strong in it. I mean it's a lot of impay.
You get to say that the sort of sharp end
of when things go wrong with with local kids in
high schools with social media, and that really made me
realize that, you know, I definitely don't want my kids
being exposed to that if I can help.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It, Yeah, totally. So if the National Party gets the
courage to actually follow the Albanese government and ban the
social media for the kids under sixty, would you support that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I think it's a good measure for Pearans to do it.
Like I think from what I've heard from Australians and people,
and it gives parents a good ability to say, hey,
look there's a rule in place, you can't have it.
I think realistically enforcing it it's going to be a
different story. Yeah, so it's good. It's a good measure,
but I think to be practical if you really think
you're going to keep all with sixteen year olds off
social media?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
But would they be support it? Would you guys? Would
you guys? Because the Act is going to be a
brat about it, so you're going to cross the house
and help.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, that's what we're supportive of it. We think there
needs to be more done as well, and where you
saw the Select Committee inquiry had some really good outcomes
in that. So yeah, we're generally supportive of it. We
want something that's practically workable.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Okay, now, Jenney, Sorry we got distracted by Jack. Look
at what he did.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Sorry, I'm really hoping it doesn't call back.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
If there's anything like like the males of my family,
it will just be persistent until they get you on
the phone. What I was going to actually ask you
is what would you be prepared to cut to save
the government books?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
You're asking me, Yeah, well, I think the first point
is that Nicola made this measure up Obi gl X
right to get them into twenty six twenty seven surplus.
And even with the made up measure, it still won't
happen until twenty nine to thirty. So it's really problematic
the fact that the promise of making things better and
cutting things was going to help, and cutting things hasn't helped.
(05:17):
It's actually driven down the economy. It's lost more jobs.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It all come on, now, the economy's driven down. Adrian
or who forced in a recession. I mean, these guys
are hardly cutting anything that's been more than you lot.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I'll take you, I'll take you for a magian and
you can see you can see the businesses.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
How much of that was Tory though?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
How much my Tories they did?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
The lot No, no to not Tories, the collective, just
the one.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
What were you going to say, Mitch, Well, she didn't
answer the question when you said what would you cut?
And she's not going to give you an answer. The
reality is they're going to increase texas, They're going to
borrow more, they're going to spend more, and they're going
to put us right back in the situation that we
inherited two years ago, and that we're working hard to
get ourselves well, drive ourselves out of and just think
back to seven plus percent interest rates, think back to
(06:06):
a mess of increase in cost of living and inflation.
You know that they don't have to think and we're
tracking in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Mitch, what did you think when you saw David Seymore
say he's bringing that the Treaty principles debate.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Oh, I just and I didn't pay any attention to that.
We're not going anywhere near that as the national party.
So that's something he can talk about. But you know,
we've got no focus on that at all. We're focused
on the economy, law and order, education and health.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
So here that's changed. He's not going to get this
over the line. You guys are not going to support this.
He can talk about it all he likes, but it'll
end up the same place it has this time.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, we're just not speaking about that. That's he can
talk about it, but no, we're not interested.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
In ed all.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, I can't imagine that's going to go anywhere. Then
what do you make Jinny of the Taxpayer's Union chickening
out with Nikola Willis.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I don't know. It's an odd one, isn't it. We
all got little packets of fun for Christmas for one
to fudge written on it. Yeah. I think it's kind
of a bit of a distraction really and trying to
take away from the fact that cost of loving is
really hooting so many New Zealanders right now. And I
think that that's what hasn't changed, that there was a
(07:15):
promise that things will get better in that space, and
quite simply coming into Christmas, people are really feeling it.
So I think it's I think it's just a distraction
to be friend.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, I thought it was great. I thought it was great.
I love the way Nicola came in and said, Okay,
you're going to run a campaign against You're going to
challenge me in terms of what I'm doing. We'll front up,
let's have a debate around it. So good honor, absolutely,
one hundred percent, So good honor, you know, and I
think that, you know, I showed a bit assess and
got out there and called them out, and I thought
(07:43):
that was great. And you know, that's that's that's that's
a great thing about our open democracy in New Zealand.
We can do that.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
We're not we're not letting people vote in the next selections.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Letting people vote it used to be. There's a responsibility
that comes with it, Jinny. And if people really take
the vote seriously, I don't think it's too big or
impossible to get solves organized and get themselves registered to vote.
So we've we've we've we've let a lot of blood
in this country for the right to vote. We've paid
a high price for it, and we should actually take
it seriously and put a little bit of effort into
(08:16):
getting out there and getting registered a couple of weeks
before polling day to get out and use your right tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Your phone has gone a bit funny, so I don't
know if you've gone on.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I don't know why that is. I'm doing everything right
and no one's calling me.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Stick a hand in the air. We'll touch a piece
of metal and it might turn into like you might
extend yourself as an area that right now, this is.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Not science here. You wanted you wanted highlights and low
lights from us. Do you still want that?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Go on?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Then?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Okay, well, so low light, let's say she not really
low light. It was Jenny's continued offer to go to
hot yoga has been a bit of an interesting one
for me. I ever taken man Sarah as you know
here that she's the next police officer from the Lighting Northland,
and I listened to her account all very carefully, and
she's not sure about these offers of hot yogurt all
the time. The lowlight, the low I'm not sure about that,
(09:09):
the lowlight like for blick shorts, the lowlight. The lowlight
for me obviously would be the loss of Senior Sergeant
Lynn Fleming on New Year's Day this year, and and
I just want to make I just want to acknowledge Bryn,
her husband, Rayner, and Aaron, her daughter and son both
(09:31):
Britain and are and are in the police themselves. And
of course Rayner Headlin's first little grandson, Maniah. In May
of this year, it'll be their first Christmas without her.
And we can't remove their pain, but we can certainly
help carry it with them. And I just want to
give a shout out to the Nelson Police and Nelson
community and the whole country that rallied around that family
(09:51):
when they when they really needed it and thing to
do that. So that's my shout.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Out, all right, Jenny, it's you'll turn.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Then, so highlight highlight. I was, it's pretty I've been
got great feedback from three free GP visits, so introducing
a clear way how will fund that through a CGT
and providing a pathway for affordable for free primary health care,
which has been long over due in New Zealand. So
I think there's many families who are struggling with the
(10:17):
cost of living who have welcomed that change. Low lights
for me, My goodness. All the school lunches have been
ongoing with issues with kids getting burnt or just eating
gross food or not eating them. So I think that's
been an ongoing, real sad thing from what was a
nice thing that was happening. But I would probably have
(10:38):
to say that it's just the cost of living that
continues to kick people at Christmas. So families going into
Christmas not being able to afford Christmas presents.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I know many families right up into heither either.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Just really quickly, we saw the treasury unfold and bondo
in the last sort of seventy two hours. I just
want to acknowledge our Jewish and Muslim leaders in our
country because in July this year, we all came either
at Government House and signed what was called a harmony,
a coord and that is our leaders both in our
Jewish and our Muslim community, sending a really clear message
(11:09):
to us as a country. We're going to do things
a different way, and we're going to use dialogue and
I want to so I want to acknowledge them in
in particular, I want to acknowledge our Jewish community, whom
we have wrecked around as much support and care as
we can to make sure that they feel safe as
we move into our Christmas and summer break.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I mean, in richest was breaking. Guys, listen, thank you
so much, thanks for being part of the show for
the year, and Merry Christmas to the pair of you.
Have a lovely summer break and might be talking with
you as well.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It's a merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Thanks, Merry Christmas, Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson. For more from
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Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson Politics Wednesday with Us. Now, how
are you.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Too, morning, Heather, Good morning Heather, Jenny.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
You will never have been at a party like that.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm sometimes the family ones can get you know, the
other worse ones sometimes, aren't they?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Are they?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
What happens?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Ginny? What happens?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You always have that there's an uncle or an auntie,
you know, and they sort of just have a couple
of mons. You too many? You don't have those in
your family?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh yeah, I mean my family is part half my
family is from South Africa, so you can probably guess
what my uncle's like. And we all sit there going wow,
like this is just you need to lay off those
those castle lagers.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Mitch.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I'm not going to ask you. I don't want to
embarrass you to. Ginny's already taken one for the team. Actually, Ginny,
what about those retail crime numbers?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Look, it's encouraging. We didn't set up or Or is
a private business, and so didn't they bring it to
increase the reporting? No, no, no, they're a private business.
They they set themselves up.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
They started in twenty fourteen. I've sort of been on
their journey a bit with them. Amazing company, great New
Zealand story, great people of the Prime Minister, and I
were at your new office last week. They are great
partners with police and yes, really encouraging to see the numbers.
Still a lot more to do, but really good to
see those violent crime stacks coming down.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, Gunny, are you going to congratulate Mtchi's obviously doing
some awesome work.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, it's good. It is good to see. I mean
we think, well, maybe it'll be better if they've got
the five hundred cops, but he's doing good. It's encouraging.
It's encouraging to see those numbers. And we saw globally
post COVID just weird spikes of really straight up crime
and it's nice to see that we're actually doing better
than Australia in this space. I think things not having
(01:47):
good police in place, but also having things like facial
recognition has really changed. So some of those technology changes
we've seen in the past while have also I think
helped to improve because that's definitely what retailers tell me.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Now, Mitch, what are we going to do about the
government box? What are you prepared to cut out of
your portfolios to save us some dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Well, we've already made big cuts. When we came into government,
we had to go through and we made significant cuts.
I had to do that in all of my port
files except for emergency management, and quite simply, we were
just we cut. We had to cut back office expendsure
and read, proprioritize and take that investment onto the front line.
And we have been doing that. But we've been said,
(02:27):
We've been very clear and Nicholas been very clear that
we're going to make the cuts, but we're going to
do it in a measured way so that we don't
go into hard austerity and we don't cause more harm
and more pain to the country than is necessary.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
We can't carry on the way that we are right
because we're in the red for the rest of the
decade and we're just borrowing to actually pay for the borrowing.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Now, there's a pathway back to surplus, and we are
committed to making sure that we're disciplined and we stay
on that pathway back to surplus. And that's the most
important thing.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, Ginny, are you still there. I heard a phone go.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
That's me Sorry, that's that was someone trying.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
To call me.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Who was calling you was it chippy?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It was my son Jack Holidays take joy asking for something.
It's that Jack Amanzi be So how old is Jack?
Jack is thirteen?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So it never it doesn't even stop at thirteen. Th
Still it's not a phone at thirteen?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Ny he well he has, yes, he does have.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And does he have access to the social media?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
No he does not, he does not have.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Is this a family rule?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I just think you're too young. I don't want them
seeing silly stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
How hard is that for you to enforce?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's not easy. You have the odd fight, but I'm
pretty strong in it. I mean it's a lot of impay.
You get to say that the sort of sharp end
of when things go wrong with with local kids in
high schools with social media, and that really made me
realize that, you know, I definitely don't want my kids
being exposed to that if I can help.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It, Yeah, totally. So if the National Party gets the
courage to actually follow the Albanese government and ban the
social media for the kids under sixty, would you support that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I think it's a good measure for Pearans to do it.
Like I think from what I've heard from Australians and people,
and it gives parents a good ability to say, hey,
look there's a rule in place, you can't have it.
I think realistically enforcing it it's going to be a
different story. Yeah, so it's good. It's a good measure,
but I think to be practical if you really think
you're going to keep all with sixteen year olds off
social media?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
But would they be support it? Would you guys? Would
you guys? Because the Act is going to be a
brat about it, so you're going to cross the house
and help.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, that's what we're supportive of it. We think there
needs to be more done as well, and where you
saw the Select Committee inquiry had some really good outcomes
in that. So yeah, we're generally supportive of it. We
want something that's practically workable.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Okay, now, Jenney, Sorry we got distracted by Jack. Look
at what he did.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Sorry, I'm really hoping it doesn't call back.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
If there's anything like like the males of my family,
it will just be persistent until they get you on
the phone. What I was going to actually ask you
is what would you be prepared to cut to save
the government books?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
You're asking me, Yeah, well, I think the first point
is that Nicola made this measure up Obi gl X
right to get them into twenty six twenty seven surplus.
And even with the made up measure, it still won't
happen until twenty nine to thirty. So it's really problematic
the fact that the promise of making things better and
cutting things was going to help, and cutting things hasn't helped.
(05:17):
It's actually driven down the economy. It's lost more jobs.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It all come on, now, the economy's driven down. Adrian
or who forced in a recession. I mean, these guys
are hardly cutting anything that's been more than you lot.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I'll take you, I'll take you for a magian and
you can see you can see the businesses.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
How much of that was Tory though?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
How much my Tories they did?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
The lot No, no to not Tories, the collective, just
the one.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
What were you going to say, Mitch, Well, she didn't
answer the question when you said what would you cut?
And she's not going to give you an answer. The
reality is they're going to increase texas, They're going to
borrow more, they're going to spend more, and they're going
to put us right back in the situation that we
inherited two years ago, and that we're working hard to
get ourselves well, drive ourselves out of and just think
back to seven plus percent interest rates, think back to
(06:06):
a mess of increase in cost of living and inflation.
You know that they don't have to think and we're
tracking in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Mitch, what did you think when you saw David Seymore
say he's bringing that the Treaty principles debate.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Oh, I just and I didn't pay any attention to that.
We're not going anywhere near that as the national party.
So that's something he can talk about. But you know,
we've got no focus on that at all. We're focused
on the economy, law and order, education and health.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
So here that's changed. He's not going to get this
over the line. You guys are not going to support this.
He can talk about it all he likes, but it'll
end up the same place it has this time.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, we're just not speaking about that. That's he can
talk about it, but no, we're not interested.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
In ed all.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, I can't imagine that's going to go anywhere. Then
what do you make Jinny of the Taxpayer's Union chickening
out with Nikola Willis.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I don't know. It's an odd one, isn't it. We
all got little packets of fun for Christmas for one
to fudge written on it. Yeah. I think it's kind
of a bit of a distraction really and trying to
take away from the fact that cost of loving is
really hooting so many New Zealanders right now. And I
think that that's what hasn't changed, that there was a
(07:15):
promise that things will get better in that space, and
quite simply coming into Christmas, people are really feeling it.
So I think it's I think it's just a distraction
to be friend.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, I thought it was great. I thought it was great.
I love the way Nicola came in and said, Okay,
you're going to run a campaign against You're going to
challenge me in terms of what I'm doing. We'll front up,
let's have a debate around it. So good honor, absolutely,
one hundred percent, So good honor, you know, and I
think that, you know, I showed a bit assess and
got out there and called them out, and I thought
(07:43):
that was great. And you know, that's that's that's that's
a great thing about our open democracy in New Zealand.
We can do that.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
We're not we're not letting people vote in the next selections.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Letting people vote it used to be. There's a responsibility
that comes with it, Jinny. And if people really take
the vote seriously, I don't think it's too big or
impossible to get solves organized and get themselves registered to vote.
So we've we've we've we've let a lot of blood
in this country for the right to vote. We've paid
a high price for it, and we should actually take
it seriously and put a little bit of effort into
(08:16):
getting out there and getting registered a couple of weeks
before polling day to get out and use your right tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Your phone has gone a bit funny, so I don't
know if you've gone on.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I don't know why that is. I'm doing everything right
and no one's calling me.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Stick a hand in the air. We'll touch a piece
of metal and it might turn into like you might
extend yourself as an area that right now, this is.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Not science here. You wanted you wanted highlights and low
lights from us. Do you still want that?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Go on?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Then?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Okay, well, so low light, let's say she not really
low light. It was Jenny's continued offer to go to
hot yoga has been a bit of an interesting one
for me. I ever taken man Sarah as you know
here that she's the next police officer from the Lighting Northland,
and I listened to her account all very carefully, and
she's not sure about these offers of hot yogurt all
the time. The lowlight, the low I'm not sure about that,
(09:09):
the lowlight like for blick shorts, the lowlight. The lowlight
for me obviously would be the loss of Senior Sergeant
Lynn Fleming on New Year's Day this year, and and
I just want to make I just want to acknowledge Bryn,
her husband, Rayner, and Aaron, her daughter and son both
(09:31):
Britain and are and are in the police themselves. And
of course Rayner Headlin's first little grandson, Maniah. In May
of this year, it'll be their first Christmas without her.
And we can't remove their pain, but we can certainly
help carry it with them. And I just want to
give a shout out to the Nelson Police and Nelson
community and the whole country that rallied around that family
(09:51):
when they when they really needed it and thing to
do that. So that's my shout.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Out, all right, Jenny, it's you'll turn.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Then, so highlight highlight. I was, it's pretty I've been
got great feedback from three free GP visits, so introducing
a clear way how will fund that through a CGT
and providing a pathway for affordable for free primary health care,
which has been long over due in New Zealand. So
I think there's many families who are struggling with the
(10:17):
cost of living who have welcomed that change. Low lights
for me, My goodness. All the school lunches have been
ongoing with issues with kids getting burnt or just eating
gross food or not eating them. So I think that's
been an ongoing, real sad thing from what was a
nice thing that was happening. But I would probably have
(10:38):
to say that it's just the cost of living that
continues to kick people at Christmas. So families going into
Christmas not being able to afford Christmas presents.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I know many families right up into heither either.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Just really quickly, we saw the treasury unfold and bondo
in the last sort of seventy two hours. I just
want to acknowledge our Jewish and Muslim leaders in our
country because in July this year, we all came either
at Government House and signed what was called a harmony,
a coord and that is our leaders both in our
Jewish and our Muslim community, sending a really clear message
(11:09):
to us as a country. We're going to do things
a different way, and we're going to use dialogue and
I want to so I want to acknowledge them in
in particular, I want to acknowledge our Jewish community, whom
we have wrecked around as much support and care as
we can to make sure that they feel safe as
we move into our Christmas and summer break.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I mean, in richest was breaking. Guys, listen, thank you
so much, thanks for being part of the show for
the year, and Merry Christmas to the pair of you.
Have a lovely summer break and might be talking with
you as well.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It's a merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Thanks, Merry Christmas, Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson. For more from
The Mike Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
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