Full Show Podcast: 19 December 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tough on power, sharp on insight.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Heather Duplessy Allen on the mic Hosking Breakfast were the defender,
embraced the impossible news, togs dead, be.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Morning and welcome to the last show of the year.
How good was that GDP number? Yes, thatd AQ three
up one point one percent? Is it on form of
Associate Finance Minister Richard Prebble with us after seven you
are not going to believe the number of kids assaulting
other kids and teachers and schools will speak to a
principle a former glory of our resident on how long
it's going to take before Glory of l shuts down
completely without a school We have the request to keep

(00:33):
funding that slow train from Hamilton to Auckland. I mean
Tim and Carey will do the week that was.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
For the last time this year, Heather Duperssy Allen.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Well, how good is it to end the year the
mic Hosking Breakfast show for the year with the good
news that next year is increasingly looking like the year
that we will finally be out of recession and into
the growth. The GDP number out yesterday confirmed it It was
better than expected, came in at one point one percent.
That was better than any economist was packing. It was
almost three times better than the Resis Bank had predicted.

(01:01):
The quarter that we're in at the moment is looking good.
Much of the recent economic data is looking good. Consumer
confidence is up, business confidence is up, building consents are up,
job listings are up, manufacturing orders are up. Retail spending
is up. Yes, there is some data out there that
shows it's going to be a bit bumpy next year.
The services sector is still contracting. That should be a worry. Yes,
the election will slow spending like it does every three years,

(01:23):
and yes, house price growth is basically not even worth mentioning.
But enough is lining up for us to feel like
twenty twenty six might actually finally usher in the start
of something good, good enough for HSBC to predict that
our growth will outstrip Australia's and then do we deserve this?
It has been tough pat yourself on the back for
stumbling to the point that we're at, because this has
been the toughest recession in decades, harder than the GFC

(01:46):
buy a lot. We've lost businesses, we've lost family and
friends to Australia. We've lost a lot of money, and
without being glib. What doesn't break you makes you stronger.
So my hope for twenty twenty six is that this
country is now recession hardened, is more efficient, and is
more nimble and basically is ready to take better times
and make the most of them.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
So Zelensky is looking to secure fresh funding before the
end of the year, and the EU and the Polish
Prime Minister Donald Tusker looking to see where the frozen
Russian assets can be used to fund Ukraine.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Either money today or blood tomorrow. And I am not
talking about Ukraine on I'm talking about Europe. And this
is our decision to make and only ours.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
No surprise, Zelensky quite likes the idea.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Money is needed so that Russia and anybody else in
the world does not use these Russian assets as a
leverage against us.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
We want these assets so.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
That it is not a part of the negotiation.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
In the UK, the Bank of England has made their
first rates cut in four months, which has Rachel Reeves
breathing a sigh of relief.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
It's welcome news for families and businesses. What it means
for a first time buyer with an average size mortgage
is one hundred pounds less a month because of these
successive cuts and interest rates.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Meanwhile, Kostama is launching a plan to lower violence among
women and girls.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
This is a real priority for the government and a
real priority for me.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I'm determined that.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
We're going to har violence against women and girls.

Speaker 7 (03:21):
Really difficult to do.

Speaker 8 (03:22):
I know that they know that, but we are absolutely
going to do this.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
The war of words between Trump and Maduro of Venezuela
hasn't called.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
The truth has been revealed.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
They want to change the regime in Venezuela to impose
a puppet government that would not last even forty seven hours.
And in the entertainment, the British Actors Union is looking
at potential strikes after rejecting a vote to give digital
scans for AI use.

Speaker 9 (03:47):
Offering US protections won by our sister union sag AFTRA
in the United States. I'm not appropriate for jurisdiction in
this country and nor are they appropriate for the exponential
pace of artificial intelligence development over the last years.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
And finally, Facebook is going down the monetization route in
the US and the UK. They are currently running tests
by forcing users to pay a subscription if they want
to share more than two links a month. The current
cost is twenty three New Zealand dollars. Critics say it's
an unnecessary cost for small businesses trying to make a start.
Meta analysts say it could become the norm as a

(04:21):
cost to doing business basically, and that is news of
the world in ninety seconds. And get another reason to
get off Facebook because it's a waste to get time now.
Either the Australians are tetchy or bond I was about
to have another problem yesterday. Late last night our time,
heavily armed tactical police in Sydney's southwest arrested a car
load of men from Victoria. There were five in the car.

(04:42):
Cops rammed the car. They may in fact have shopped
through the windscreen because there was a bullet hole in
the windscreen. They're using the blanks, not the actual bullets
if they are doing the shooting. They pulled the five
of them out onto the foot path, handcuff them with
the zip ties, face them against a wall and away
from the road, took their cell phones, put them on
the evidence bags. Some of the guys were bleeding by
this stage, and then another car was intercepted a few

(05:04):
streets away, and a couple more guys were arrested. Our
sources have told The Sydney Morning Herald that a weapon
may have been found and that the group was flagged
because they were known to authorities in Victoria and there
had been a tip off to the police and that
these guys were on their way to BONDI twelve past six.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
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Speaker 3 (05:31):
Got some fantastic if you if you love the idea
that we're going to get more of the minerals out
of the ground, got some fantastic news for the y
he northmind for you in about twenty minutes time. Right now,
it's quarter past six. Breg Smith of Generators with us
Morning Greg. How good was that GDP number?

Speaker 10 (05:48):
Boom, we are back, aren't we hear? GDP in a
September quarter one? Great to hear and episode. That's a
really good turnaround from the one percent contraction and due
as you point out strong within almost everyone was forecasting
a Reserve banknated Pensylvan just zero point four percent. So yeah,
real beat probably does reinforce the case for the OCR

(06:09):
being kept on hold. But yeah, what was really impressive
here there was how broad based the recovery was. So
fourteen of sixteen industries grew in the core. That's complete
reversal from mid year when most sectors were going backwards.
Manufacturing it was one of the stars. It was up
two point two percent. Construction rebounded that was one point
seven percent. Of course, that's had a tough run, still

(06:31):
down over the year, but looking better. Business and professional
services they were strong, and exports up three point three percent.
Travel and dairy sort of featuring there, and also business
investment left so that's lifted as well, so that's more
spending on machinery and transport equipment. So you know, signs
that economic rebounders is getting momentum with businesses wasn't al rosy.

(06:52):
Information media and telecoms that fell two point one percent. Also,
households spending were some positives, but overall up just point
one percent. Disposed shows cost of living pressures are still binding,
but yeah, generally very positive story. And GDP PHO capital
it was up point nine percent as well, and on
an annual basis, our economy is one point three percent

(07:13):
bigger than this time last year, so still down half
percent when you compare the full year to the prior year.
But we are on the improved for sure, and as
you point out, compared to our our training partners, you
are looking really good. So one point one percent quarterly
growth that puts us right out there of China, well
ahead of AZZI, Europe, UK and Japan. So things are
certainly looking a lot rosy, Heather, And yeah, twenty twenty

(07:35):
six is looking much better.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, although coming off a low base, but we will
take what we can take. Now on the AI, does
it look like we might have been getting a bit
over excited with the bubble talk?

Speaker 10 (07:44):
Yeah, we had us talk to me about the bubble.
Was it a boom? Is it a bust? But yeah,
Mike Cols sort have put a bit of that to
bed overnight. So that're the largest memory chipmaker in the US.
So there's a lot of attention on their results and
they were really strong. So the shares have swored eleven percent.
The revenue was thirding points six billion, That was well
ahead of what Wall Street was looking for. Neat income

(08:04):
more than tripled on a year ago. Real fireworks were
in the outlook, though, so revenue this quarter. They reckon
is going to jump to eighteen point seven billion, and
earnings of we are around about double what markets as Pence
had pencil done. So I think you could say that's
actually probably one of the biggest upside surprises we've seen
in the semiconductor space this year. So pretty well timed.
They're basically riding the mess with shortage and memory chips

(08:26):
driven by AI. They reckon their chips for next year,
sold out memory revenue that double to five point two
billion data see a revenue that was up and men
would say there's a real disconnect between supply and demand.
So it was really interesting investors they loved at stock
jumped and it's actually up round about two hundred percent
this year, so it's outpacing in the video and the like,

(08:47):
and it's I suppose the key thing about this announcement
here there was it's in stark contrast to some wobbly
updates we got last week from broad Common Oracle a
messages clear AI demands, surging shortages are going to last
beyond twenty two six, prices aren't coming down any time soon,
and memory looks like one of the big winners of
the AI era. So yeah, all looks to be well

(09:07):
in ai land over and I.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Least either oh happy to hear that. Now, what are
you making from that rate cap decision in the UK?

Speaker 10 (09:13):
Yeah, so it was actually the they don't have one
for a few months of horse as you've been sure,
but it is the fourth this year.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
It looks like they're probably done.

Speaker 10 (09:20):
So the call of percent to three point seven five percent,
so that's the last twenty twenty three was quite a
tight vote five to four. Inflation is still at three
point two percent, so yeah, that could be a closercord
in terms of any rate moves from here. And then
of course we have the ECB. They get rates on
hold at two percent for the fourth meeting. Things are

(09:43):
looking pretty resilient. According to the Era President, inflation is
seen returning to twenty twenty eight, so they're actually probably
laying the groundwork for a hike rather than a cart
and markets will see it happening late next year. And
there was also two actually contrasting decisions up north as well.
You look at an always Nauge's bank, they keep their
rates on hold. They see the spare capacity. Markets are

(10:06):
looking at mid twenty six for a cut sweeten on
the other hand, the Rights Bank actually upgraded their outlooked
to three percent next year, so that's one of the
strongest in Europe. So they're doing pretty well and the
next book is probably going to be up rather than down. Meanwhile,
just on the US, we've actually got the case for
another cup from the fed UCPI two point seven percent November.
That's below expectations of three point one percent of stay

(10:29):
tuned there next year. And in Japan meanwhile, sort of
heading the other way, they are paused today for their
first significant rate hike in thirty years, although rates are
just half percent.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
So yeah, lots of different things go on Central maxit
he either.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, okay, we'll give us some numbers then, Greg.

Speaker 10 (10:43):
Well, we are going to bring some festive cheer with
the numbers today. So we've got Easter and P five
rounded up one point three percent six eight zero nine,
the day are up two and seventy points four eight
one five six, Narre's deck up one point nine percent
two three one one three foot two one hundred, and
the UK up point seven percent nine eight three seven.
Nickel I down one percent four nine zersero one a
sex two hundred that was flat eight five eight eight

(11:05):
inz nex fifty we were down to touchdown point three
percent thirteen twenty five six gold of eight dollars four
three four six and ounce all up forty eight cents
fifty six pot fifty two a barrel for WTI currencies,
you're pretty flat. So we're fifty seven point eight against
the US, eighty seven point three against Australian dollars. The
key we British pound with flat as well, forty three

(11:25):
point two likewise for the eighty nine point nine. So
you'd just like to take the opportunity to wishdue Heather
in your team and all the listeners out there. Very
merry Christmas, safe and happy year.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, Merry Christmas to you, Gregan, thank you so much
for your contribution to the show throughout the year. That's
Greg Smith from Generate Wealth and Key We Save a
specialist now on the US inflation number that Greg was
just mentioning there definitely came in low with an expected
like It's like you would call it a bit of
a surprise, expecting three point one comes in at two
point seven. But the trouble is they have to treat
it with a bit of caution because of course what
did they have in the US. Recently they had the

(11:59):
government shut down? What does that lead to gaps in
the data collection? So they can't be sure that they
can trust the numbers. They have to keep an eye out.
See what the next one is. Six twenty one, The My.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
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Talks at me, Hi, there there.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Eyes in the Albany mall yesterday. There is no way
you can convince me there's a cost of living crisis
with a number of people in their shopping here here
here the thank you for that GDP open. I'm a
trade I've noticed inquiries have increased to do projects with
the odd one confirmed. I want to thank you for
an incredible reporting you. Oh, you're welcome. Do you know
what happened to me yesterday? This is it was just like,
how is this happening right now? I went to do

(12:38):
we've got a We've still got the old gas gas stove,
so still you know, because fossil feels we've got the gas.
We have the gas clock top right, and it's a
stat anyway whatever the oven works. But yesterday I went
to do it turn the gas on. Gas is coming out,
but the click click click thing that ignites it. The
ignition not working, and I thought, I saw I fiddled,
returned the switch on and off at the wall. You

(12:58):
know the it guys they do that. I did that.
I lit it with a lighter. It tried everything. Called
the sparky Jake called me back at eight o'clock last
night to talk. Can't figure it out, And I thought, jeez,
that's just the day that you need that. You need
the gas guy to come around on the very last
Friday before Christmas. This is just I feel like this
is going to go well for me. What do you think?
I feel like I'm going to spend January lighting the

(13:21):
stovetop with a lighter, which look to be honest, let's
let's be fair. First world problems, but unfortunate timing and
at six twenty five.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Trending now warehouse your home for Christmas shopping.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Now for decades, anything to do with the name Sherlock
Holmes has got international attention. Prime Video I hoping that's
the case with their latest series. It's called Young Sherlock,
and it looks at Sherlock's time at Oxford tackling his
first ever murder mystery.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
Sherlock Holmes. Sir, it's unusual name. I've secured you a
place at Oxford. Promise me something. You must stay out of.
Trouble understood, No more trouble, mother, I don't trust you.

Speaker 11 (14:09):
No.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I Well, that's unfortunate.

Speaker 7 (14:13):
That has been wait for it.

Speaker 12 (14:16):
A break and astounding. You should be a detective. Think what, sir,
the game's afoot If you start wearing a hat like that,
I will no longer be friends with him.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Now you know this is going to be good because
it is directed by Guy Ritchie, who's the man behind
the series The Gentleman in Moblind and both of them
were excellent. He's also directed the two Sherlock Holmes films
that starred Robert Downey Jr. Hero Finds Tiffin plays Sherlock Holmes.
This time around, Colin Firth is in it as well.
It's out on Prime Video March fourth, and all of
us are thinking, oh lord, now we have to get

(14:53):
a Prime subscription as well, don't we? And yes we do,
all right? Why he Northmind is going ahead with his
expansion plan. He's got the approval. We'll have a chat
to the next news.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
TOOKSZB Opinion add informed, unapologetic, Heather Duplessy Allen on the

(15:23):
Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, Doing real estate
differently since nineteen seventy three News togs.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
That'd be morning, Heather. Are you aware that Peter Arnett
has died? Yeah, listen, thank you for reminding me. I
do need to tell you this. Peter Arnett has passed away.
He was aged ninety one and had been living in California.
He is, of course, probably, I would say almost certainly
our most internationally famous journalist. He became a household name
in the US for reporting for CNN on the First

(15:52):
Golf War nineteen ninety one, and then went on to
win the Pulitzer Prize about five years later. He died
on Wednesday. He was surrounded by family and friends. He'd
been receiving hospice care for prostate cancer, and he was
of course from Riveton, twenty three away from seven. So
the eight billion dollar Ye North mine is going ahead.
It's just gained consent via the fast Tracked program to

(16:12):
expand and continue mining for another eighteen years. And Jared
Bond is the CEO of Oceana Gold and with us Morning, Jared,
A good morning, have now I heard you're describing this
as one of the world's best undeveloped gold all bodies.
How much do you reckons in there?

Speaker 13 (16:27):
Well, we booked a reserve last year of one point
two million ounces and third resources of the third four
hundred thousand ounces, So it's like we see one point
six million ounces today or we did a year ago.
We still drill and we're given that the hy he
mind that we presently operate over its life has produced

(16:47):
eight million ounces. And this is a similar style of
all body. You know that there could be many millions
of ounces of gold in the way pericure upon underground.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Fantastic. So you're investing is it a bill into this?

Speaker 13 (17:02):
One billion dollars of capital to get it going? That
involves a tunnel to get to the mine from outside
the forest park, so we go into the forest park
and then as the mine is operated, we spend hundreds
of millions of dollars each year in its operation as well.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
So you've got approval for this in about one hundred
and twelve days. Is this a good system? Do you think?

Speaker 9 (17:23):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Are you happy with us?

Speaker 13 (17:26):
I think New Zealand has the best development permitting system
globally presently. It's rigorous. It is difficult to get something
permitted anywhere in the world, and New Zealand is no different.
Our application was substantial, We did a lot of work.
But the great thing about this process is that it's
done in a timely way.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Do you think that as news, you know, as the
rest of the world and investors catch on to the
fact that you guys are getting this stuff consented reasonably quickly,
that there will be increased interest in New Zealand as
a result.

Speaker 13 (17:58):
Well, New Zealand leapt up the mining attractiveness index in
an annual global survey this year, already off the basis
of that legislation being passed, and I think our success
will further solidify New Zealand as a place that you
can do business in.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's great. Do you think that it's I mean part
of the problem in New Zealand those attitudes towards mining
and traditionally and quite baked in. Do you think that's changing.

Speaker 13 (18:26):
Well, we have tremendous support where we mine from local
communities and I understand during the course of last year
we saw that public support for mining has improved dramatically
in New Zealand. And I think that's because people see
that we do it safely, we do it responsibly, have
done so for thirty five years and will continue to

(18:46):
do so. And this is an industry that generates real,
high paying jobs that are very, very productive. So I'd
like to think that New Zealanders would welcome the fact
that they have a robust mining industry.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah, well, Jared, listen, beast of luck with it. I
hope you make loads and loads of cash for yourselves
and obviously the country as well. Jared bond Oshana Gold CEO. Hither,
I had the same problem last week with our gas
hob no click click, but I could light with a match.
I went to the circuit board in the garage and
the found the circuit breaker had tripped reset. And it's
all good. Now the house is only ten years old.
Tell Barry to check the circuit breaker. Oh, bless Gary,

(19:20):
Tell Barry to like Barry knows where the circuit breaker is,
Like Barry knows what he's doing. I've already checked the
circuit breaker and it's all fine. I appreciate it, though
it is the spark. He also said to me, Oh,
can you find the end of the switch that turns
it if he tried, and I was like, do I look?
Do I sound that dumb? I was like, I turned
it on. I know how to turn it on.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
It's on.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, anyway, but thanks, and Carl says it's entirely possible
that what it is is an ignition module which only
costs one hundred dollars. But look, good luck getting that
ahead of Christmas. So and then he suggests maybe just
buy a new oven a cost a living crisis anyone.
Nineteen away from seven the.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
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Speaker 3 (20:05):
Right, So what could probably be described as the first
step towards shutting Glory of Veil down, or causing it
to shut itself down, was taken yesterday with the closure
of the school. We're going to have a chat to
one of the former residents in about half an hour.
Right now, it is sixteen away from seven.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
International Correspondence with ends at Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Richard Arnold, US correspondents with US Morning Richard Morning Ahead.

Speaker 14 (20:27):
And let me say first off, Peter Arnette, courageous reporter
he would often take it to the Polley's and issues
where many others would let things slip.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
So respect Yeah, thank you for that. Now, the inflation
data that's come out must be giving people some heart.

Speaker 14 (20:43):
Well, it's been a long time, hasn't it. We've been
battling this for a long long period. Prices here, though,
are continuing to rise, despite the Trump assertion in his
national address last night that they're rapidly falling. The inflation
rate has e slightly on these numbers just out now
to two point seven percent, and they White House is
hailing that, but the poll showed Americans not feeling it.

(21:04):
Trump's approval on handling the economy is down to historic
lows around thirty six percent. The new inflation number also
is a tentative figure because of that government's shutdown, which
meant there was no inflation report for last October into
Miar November. As well, the unemployment rate is climbing to
a four year high at four point six percent, So
that's a worry. Last night, President Trump was blaming his

(21:27):
predecessor Biden, repeatedly saying this theirfare.

Speaker 15 (21:31):
It is not the Republican's fault, it's the Democrat's.

Speaker 14 (21:34):
Fault, blaming Biden even as we are, what more than
a year into this second Trump term. Well, what the
White House is seeing are the polls which show that
fifty seven percent disapproved of Trump's handling of the economy,
the main issue on which he won reelection. Democrats are
slightly more favored on that subject, although they're also struggling
in the polls. Meantime, the start of January is going
to see the end of the healthcare subsidies the triggered

(21:56):
that shutdown of the government. Those subsidies are set to
are putting healthcare and jeopardy for more than twenty million
Americans who are going to see their health costs spiral
by insane amounts. Four Republicans now have rebelled against their
own party. They're in difficult seats. They've agreed to a
vote on the Democrats plan to renew the subsidies. For

(22:17):
Times says, why everybody recognizes the fact that there needs
to be an extension, there needs to be reformed. So
that battle will play out in early January, meaning the
political fight will be even more intense at the started
next year. While back in the White House, Donald Trump,
real estate Officionado design specialist has been redoing the hallway
that links the White House to the West Wing. He

(22:38):
has put hi a Presidential Walk of Fame, kind of
like the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Speaker 16 (22:43):
Folks.

Speaker 14 (22:43):
This has portraits of all the past presidents, and now
Trump has added descriptions under goldleaf doodles and frames and baubles,
the gold stuff that Trump loves so much. It seems
that Trump himself helped to write some of these pliques.
The one for Biden reads quote sleepy Joe by far
the worst president and American history. For Obama at reads
quote one of the most divisive political figures ever. And

(23:05):
for Reagan and suggests that Reagan was a big fan
of Yes, the young Donald Trump. So if the Nobel
Prize people ignore him, at least he ends the year
with the soccer Piece Prize and his own self styled
account of just how great he is.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Listen, what happened with this car that drove into the
water in Chicago.

Speaker 14 (23:22):
Well, it's the holiday, it's the party season for three
dudes in Chicago was almost the last hurrah. The driver
who's now been charged with being drunk at the wheel
of his vehicle slammed into a frozen lake near Chicago.
This is early morning, just after one am. They crashed
into the pond. When rescuers got there, the currge sunker
was about ten meters I'm sure it was emerged four

(23:42):
meters under the ice. This wasn't looking good, says responding
officer Mark Lomi Bao of the scene.

Speaker 17 (23:48):
His life or death, and we both decided to choose
life and we're not going to let anything happen on
our end.

Speaker 14 (23:53):
Well, he's referring to himself and his partner, Dennis Takura.
The three passengers really were struggling to get out of
their sunken cars.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Dennis, we started to see, you know, people's hands in
the water. We're reaching out for air or for just
a stale flow.

Speaker 14 (24:07):
They use shovels and whatever else they could find to
reach out, and as their body cams recorded everything. It
wasn't an easy process, that's for sure. So yeah, these
hero rescuers got them out with the three party goers
treated for any minor injuries. So stay safe during the

(24:30):
holidays people, I tell you what.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Richard, thank you very much, and Merry Christmas to you.
Thank you for all of the hard work through the year.
That's Richard Arnold our US correspondent. More Epstein files and
photos have just been released. Now, the most interesting, I
use that word very loosely, but the most interesting of
them is photos of a woman, or at least photos
of parts of a woman's body, like, for example, her

(24:52):
ankle or her clavicle, or her arm or whatever. And
written across these parts of the body are quotes from
the novel Lolita. Now, if you know the novel Lolita,
it's grim because it is an academic. It's a story
about an academic's inappropriate relationship with Lolita, who was a child.
So you know, put that together with Epstein and you
get the picture. Anyway, Apart from that, which is a

(25:14):
bit weird, it's pretty underwhelming. There's nothing incriminating in it.
It's just grim stuff. So once again I think you
can describe the release of Epstein photos is just a
bit dull. Eleven Away from seven Heather Dupaic.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Ellen on the my casking, Breakfast with the Defender and
used togs dead b.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Heather on the mining. If we worry about people leaving
for Australia, where do they think it gets its wealth?
It's mining. It's a fair point. But look, increasingly we
may too, So fingers crossed. Now, it will be not
at all surprising to you if you've been following what's
going on with Netball that the CEO, Jenny Wiley resigned yesterday.
That had to happen. I mean the minute that Dame
Knowles came back, it had to happen that Jenny Wiley

(25:54):
had to go because it was impossible for the two
of them to be in the same building. How could
you possibly have the woman who, basically, I don't want
to be unfair to Jenny Wiley, but Jenny made the
decisions that were necessary or that she felt were necessary
around the process and whatever. She basically created the situation
that led to Dame Noles having to stand down. Right,

(26:15):
So if she's made all the decisions leading to that,
how can you bring Dame Noles back and then be like, oh,
you two have to get on now. It was just
never gonna happen. But also bigger than that, the Bay
of Plenty zone was coming after her with that vote
that it wanted. And then you know, as well as that,
you had all the broadcast problems and the difficulty with
our domestic league. I mean netwill couldn't even get somebody
in Tally to put Netbule on Tally without Netbule having

(26:37):
to pay TV and Z to do it. So there
were lots of questions about the way Jenny WHILEY was
running the place she always had to leave. The question now,
of course, is whether the board is safe because the
board were all involved in this as well. Everything that's
going on is the CEO and the board. They may
have saved themselves by sacrificing Jenny. I guess. Unfortunately, only
time will tell. Hard to predict, but we'll get you

(26:59):
across this to half past seven. It's six away from
seven right now.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
All the ins and the outs.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
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Speaker 1 (27:09):
To the next level.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
So the UK is now officially the only country to
still be forging ahead with its sell only electric cars plan. Currently,
the rule that the UK has set is that eighty
percent of all car sales must be electric by twenty
thirty and this is as part of their big goal
to be net zero by twenty thirty five. The EU,
of course, you will remember, had the same goals except
in Brussels. This week officials proposed watering it down. So

(27:34):
now instead of casting emissions from new cars by one
hundred percent by twenty thirty five. The target will be
ninety percent by twenty thirty five. Now, while that doesn't
seem like a massive difference, it is entirely achievable based
on what we know about even trying to get above
the ninety five percent threshold here in New Zealand. The
Birmingham Business School and Global Society of Mobile Motor Manufacturing

(27:54):
both say that Britain needs to weigh up the global
context or risk ruining their industry and creating financial struggles
for a citizens. And if you've been following what's going
on in the UK, you know all it's going to
take is a change in government and the UK will
follow suit because the Tories are already promising that morning, Heather,
should we all be replacing our gas hobs and water
for electricity? Actually, very good question and serendipitous question from you, Monica.

(28:17):
So I was had a thing the other night and
I was talking to a I won't say who, but
it was the CEO of one of the big big
electricity businesses here in New Zealand. And I asked exactly
this question, as somebody who does have the gas coming
out of the stove at the moment, as I said
to this person, do we all need to do the switch?
And he said no, because because it's really the big

(28:39):
users who are the ones who's stuffed by the lack
of gas. Right, so you're thinking about the likes of
meth and X, And then Spira thought, for all the
guys who are trying to like warm hot houses and
stuff like that using gas. If you're just using gas domestically,
you're probably okay for a wee bit. It's gonna get
price yer, but it's not that pricing. Converting from gas
to electricity is mind blowing expensive. You do not want

(29:01):
to do that. And I guarantee you at some stage that,
given that it's New Zealand, whatever government's in there is
going to come out with a grant like we did
for oh, do you need to insulate your house, here's
some thousands of dollars for you. They'll do that. They'll go,
here's some thousands of dollars for you to convert away
from gas. So I would say just wait for that,
because that's inevitable. But what he said you can do
is for a much smaller price, you can convert from

(29:21):
mains gas into bottle gas, so you could get ye
LPG bottle instead, and that is a bit of a fath.
The German who works with me on drive has that.
My mum has that at her house and they're running
out of gas every now and because you know there'll
be a husband who forgets to order the gas and
or some boring thing like that. That's an issue, but
it's cheaper and it's probably the way to go here
that you need to get with the times and get

(29:41):
an air fryer. And look, I know everybody raves about
an air fry but an air fryer is a It's
a concession, isn't it. I mean, it's probably smart, but
it's the kind of thing that you do when you
have children. It's unique to families with children. It's like
all of a sudden, you start eating thousands of sausages
and you get an air fryer. And I don't know
that I'm quite be yet in time. Anyway, the GDP data,

(30:03):
we're going to discuss that next with Richard Prebble. And
then also the number of kids smashing each other at
school and then smashing the teachers is getting up quite high,
so We'll talk to the principle of Darfield and find
out what we need to do to stop these kids
from being so angry. News talks hed be.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
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Duplessy Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vita, Retirement Communities,
Life Your Way, News Talks, head bod.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Morning to you. So we have some good economic news
to round out the year. GDP grew one point one
percent in Q three, which is close to three times
what the Reserve Bank was packing. Growth was broad based
as well, with fourteen of sixteen industries up, including manufacturing
and construction. Richard Preble is a former Associate Finance Minister
and with US morning, Richard, good morning. Are you taking
heart from this going into next year?

Speaker 18 (31:11):
I most certainly am. Actually both US quarters turn out
to be good news. The negative quarter of one percent
out to be just a bit, but that persuaded the
Reserve Bank to stop smashing the economy with high interest rates.
Don't know what else would have. But September is basically,

(31:34):
how can I put it, ancient history. What we want
to know is what's happening now, and there are other
indicators that indicate that we've had six months of growth
and we're ending the year strongly.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
So, I mean, at the moment, it sounds like we
might be in a quarter that's about zero point three
zero point four percent growth. Is that good enough?

Speaker 18 (31:55):
No, I think we're doing better than that. What I
think We've got a very good world leading indicator of
how the economy is going. That's Massy University's TDP Live
website that uses artificial intelligence measures things like Fate movements
off the Wolf and other contemporary data to give a

(32:19):
daily figure of how the economy is growing. And right
now it says the economy is growing nearly one percent
and has been for the last six months. And while
it's not spectacular, that's still solid growth.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, that's fantastic. Okay. So the thing about it is, though,
I mean, we're getting are we at risk of perhaps
getting ahead of our skis on these numbers? Because next
year we still have unemployment that is high and ticking up,
We've still got the election that we need to face,
which always cool spending. We've still got a whole bunch
of stuff that isn't doing too well a year.

Speaker 18 (32:54):
But if we employments was the last indicator, and the
Department statistics, you know, it's very historic, so you have
to go back months to look at their at their figures.
It's better to look at job advertising and there's a
major site seek and it's up seven percent. That would

(33:17):
indicate that employments will SOFT is actually heading in the
is now heading in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Now, Richard, I want to get your take on this
debate about Nichola Willis needing to trim more fat out
of the books. Are you in the camp of keep
spending the money to avoid human misery or cut to
save the books.

Speaker 18 (33:36):
I'm in the I'm in the cut. The government's got
heaps of waste and very poor spending and could have
easily taken out another couple of billion. But this is
what I would say in Nichola Willis's defense. The government
again is a is a lag so we have to

(33:59):
earn them and then we pay the taxes. So if
we've had a year of not good growth, then the
government's own tax revenues haven't been growing. But if the
economy keeps going it the way it's going, then the
government's books will improve significantly. And I'll say this about

(34:21):
treasury productions. Treasury always gets it wrong, so it underestimates
how bad things are going to be, and then it
underestimates how good things are going to be. I think
there's every indication that twenty twenty six will be a
very good year. And interestingly, a net twenty one percent

(34:42):
of us according to the Morgan Pole, also think that.
And I'm I'm with the masses. Twenty twenty six should
be a good year.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
God, I'm so pleased to hear it. Richard, thank you
very much, Look after you, suth. Richard Prebble, former Associate
Finance Minister, eleven past seven.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Duplessy el So.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
New data out shows increasing violence in our schools. By
December the fifth, there had been twelve three hundred and
forty six standdowns, suspensions or expulsions this year for physical assault,
and that's up nearly fifty percent on twenty nineteen. Andy
England is Darfield High School principle. Then with US High
Andy Well, Nona hew Head, what is going on here
that the kids can't regulate their emotions?

Speaker 19 (35:23):
Well, that's a big question. But I think we have
to remember that violence has always been with us. It's
not a new phenomenon. There are anecdotically, I'd say I've
seen changes in the nature of it, few big fights,
more disregulated sort of tantrums and lashing out.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
And what's causing that.

Speaker 19 (35:42):
There's a known increase in neurodiversity. I can't say that's
all of it, of course, I think society has become
a bit less tolerance, and that's got part of it
as well. Schools are quite tense place at that time.
But the neurodiverse is really interesting one because I certainly
haven't seen the researchers why it's increasing, but certainly classrooms
would seem to be quite neurodiverse places that day.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, I mean, look, is it possible, Andy that it
is a result of the kind of parenting that we
are increasingly doing at the moment, which is gentle instead
of you know, full of consequences.

Speaker 19 (36:15):
As far as I can tell, that the consequence of
violent behaf parenting is actually more violent kids. So it's
certainly neglecting parenting very much so so parents who leieve
kids in front of devices as opposed to engaging with them.
That's very much part of problems.

Speaker 8 (36:29):
That we see.

Speaker 19 (36:30):
And then you can't rule out the cliche thing we
seems like we blame it all the time, but devices
are a problem, and there are social media trends around violence,
and they would spark some of the more sort of
more organized fights at times and the more organized assaults
that we've seen. But in terms of their actual lashing
out type behavior, you can't rule out exposure to violence

(36:51):
and making it seem acceptable. But yeah, certainly that the
neglect of kids. Most of your ned neurodiversity in schools
is where kids are struggle to manage their emotions and feelings,
and there are some glimmers of hope there are some
things we can.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Do about it, like taking the devices away.

Speaker 19 (37:08):
Well, yeah, that helps, but I mean it's not if
you're just take them away in school. It's only sort
of one third of the problem, isn't it. And I'd
fad to say less than that because most of the
problems happened at one o'clock in the morning, when they're
nowhere near us. No, I mean more things like the
setting a culture in the school of tolerance and number understanding,
but also support having teachers well informed. But the argument
from some I think was a union about having teach

(37:29):
trades and classes, an expensive solution, but a very amazing
solution if we could achieve that. Certainly there are things
at the other end, like services academies, which we've only
got twenty eight I believe of them in the country.
They're amazing for students who have violent tendencies, removing them
from mainstream classes were given them a very purposeful existence
where their tendencies are to be violent.

Speaker 8 (37:48):
Dropped down.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
All right, Andy, thank you appreciate it. That's Andy England
Darfield High School principle.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Give a loop for cl and might come back to that.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Actually, that's quite an interesting discussion, is it. Listen, these
are sign This is a sign of how much trouble
Albanezi is in in the wake of the Bondi massacre
for not doing enough to confront anti Semitism and the
lead up to it. He has now admitted that he
could have done more. He regrets not having done more,
and he says anyone in this position would regret not
doing more. But he appears to even now still be

(38:16):
stuffing it up because from what I can see, they've
had obviously a whole bunch of the funerals. I can't
find any record he's been to any of them, and
he's coping criticism for it. Quarter past the Mike.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By News
talks at be.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Heather. I work in a primary school as a teacher,
ade and you've nailed that the behavior of the five
and six year olds is atrocious and when you meet
the parents you wonder why eighteen past seven now on schools.
There is a big development in the Glory of ol case,
which is that the Secretary of Education has canceled Glory
of Our Christian School's license, effectively closing it down from
twenty three January next year. Liz Gregory is the founder

(38:57):
of the Glory of Our Leavers Trust Morning, Lisz.

Speaker 20 (38:59):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Is this good because it starts the process of making
it hard to live in Gloriavale? Or is this bad
because it's the kids who get punished?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
First?

Speaker 20 (39:07):
Oh, look, I think this is a positive step. The
ministry has made a courageous decision that the children actually
matter since the school at Laureville was a cornerstone of
their community. I guess a device for entreatment and isolation
which was consessed by leaders in the employment court hearing.
So this is only a positive step forward.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
So what's most likely to happen here. Are these kids
going to be homeschooled by their parents or are they
going to get sent to public schools outside nearby?

Speaker 20 (39:33):
Yeah, a lot of people think homeschooling will be their
next option. But last week every family who are homeschooling
failed in Glory Vale. They failed their AERO review, and
so that's clearly a signal that the homeschooling isn't working either.
I doubt they'll jump onto correspondent schooling to KUDA because
they don't need to meet the criteria for that. So
I assume that state school integration is going to be

(39:55):
the option, although we would strongly suggest them have that
a harb or transition programs are set up thereby various
buildings are added to other school sites potentially, and that
it's the carefully supported process and it will toss money,
but these kids are.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Worth it, Okay. So this was always going to be
the first step that any government would take in order
to start putting the pressure on Gloria L What's the next.

Speaker 20 (40:20):
One, obviously the announcement of a deregistration of their charity.
I've been anticipating that will be before Christmas, and that
was signal to Gloriavale in July and they objected to
it and have had healed hearings, and so I expect
that's the next step. They do have various leavers on
offer for them, but all government successive ones over fifty

(40:43):
years have been very reluctant to pull those around child safety.
And yeah, we would say that things need to be
done carefully and with survivor input. The people that left
Gloriaval are actually the experts on how people in there
think and they must be at the table sitting there
giving ideas and for how this can be done in
a really carefully tramer informed way.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Liz, thanks very much for your time. Liz Gregory are
the founder of the Glory of Our Leavers Trust. Heather,
my daughter is a teacher. The local schools didn't find
out about the closure of Glory of Our School until
an hour before the media. They won't know how many
kids they will get until January. It doesn't give them
much time to hire more teachers and get things organized. Brian,
I somehow feel I just have a sneaky suspicion not
that many kids are going to come out, so you know,

(41:27):
probably have nothing to worry about seven to twenty.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power
By News Talks that be.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
It's seven twenty three. Now it's that time of the year,
isn't it where we pick our politician of the year.
And for me, it's the same person that I picked
last year. Now, what I want to say is political commentators,
myself included, at times, have an unfortunate tendency to sometimes
choose politicians because the politicians are good at playing the
political game. And if you're into that kind of thing,
you might have picked this year that arterd. He might

(42:00):
be Clark because she collected her Time magaz Time Magazine
Award this year. You might pack Chris Hopkins because he's
resurrected his party's fortunes from a horror twenty twenty three
election result. Maybe Ardena Williams from Labor for giving good speeches,
or Shane Jones for getting attention. But at a time
when we all acknowledge that our country is in a
little bit of a poly crisis, slipping further behind the pack,

(42:21):
I think the most important measure is not actually whether
a politician is good at politics. It's whether a politician
is making an actual difference, and no other politician is
making as big a difference or as quickly in an
area as important as Erica Stanford is. Already, kids are
learning more than they have for years now. The results
from her phone exchanges just a couple of months ago

(42:41):
was so dramatic that a staff member in her office
burst into tears. She is doing this despite increasing resistance
from teachers' unions. Parents are raving about the changes that
they're seeing. Teachers themselves are noticing the difference. Nothing is
more important than our kids and educating our kids properly,
and on the politics, if that is your measure, She
can actually play politics as well as anyone. I mean,

(43:01):
you watch her closely, and you watch her opponents learn
the lesson of getting tangled up with Erica Stanford. Just
ask Willowjean Prime how that went. So Erica Stanford it is.
And again, because nothing beats having a good idea and
being brave enough to execute it and then helping to
turn this country around together. Do for se Ellen, So

(43:22):
I ask you this question, like, do you remember the
cold playcis Caam? Of course she remember the cold playis Caam.
Absolutely everybody does. The woman at the center of the
Cold playcist Cam has now spoken out for the first
time to The New York Times about four or five
months after the thing has happened. She's she has she
reckons that she she had never been in a sexual
relationship with her boss until that night. She says before

(43:43):
that night, they'd never even kissed. She decided she was
breaking up from her husband. She says, it was very
new breaking up from the husband. Was going to go
and see Cold Play with some friends. Hadn't been out
for a very long time. She and the boss had
had started connecting with each other, and you know it
as always happens, she said, oh, my marriage is breaking up,
and he said, oh, my marriage is breaking up too.

(44:03):
You know how that thing happens. So then, of course,
all of a sudden, you know, so invited him out
and they went. They went into this like vip loungey
bit that they were in, and a had a couple
of tequilas, and before you know it, they're having a
smooch and then he was dancing and she put her
arms around him, and anyway, the rest is history. The
thing when I find people feel unexpected feelings when they
go to Cold play, don't they. Yeah, and when they
have tequila's, A couple of tequila's will help you along

(44:25):
that journey quite well as well. Anyway, she is trying
to clear her name in this whole thing, and you know,
she doesn't want to accept that this is what her
life isn't fair enough to her because the whole thing
went completely mental. She had about fifty or sixty death
threats and people were being horrible to her at the
gas station, and her children are mortified, And there is
a degree of self reflection that we have to do
as a society that every part of the world that

(44:48):
consumed that and formed opinions on it. But I'm not
really sure. Well, I mean, you're entitled to an opinion,
it's whether you then took it to her. But I'm
not really sure that speaking out about it publicly has
necessarily helped her case. So I don't know how many
people are going to believe that that was the first
time they had a bit of a snog.

Speaker 16 (45:02):
Anyway, Spirah thought for the people who make kiss cams,
I mean, they've really gone out of vogue.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
That's been a tough end to that business for them.
Heither on the school violence the biggest changes the lack
of boundaries and consequences for bad and disruptive behavior. Parents
need to parent. Can I say that as somebody who
is at the very start of the parenting journey right
four year old and a one year old, I'm starting
to come to that conclusion. You can try the gentle
parenting thing where you talk through the emotions and everything fine,

(45:31):
or you could set some absolute boundaries and say to
the kids that doesn't happen in this family. And I'm
finding that the latter approach is the one that you
want if you don't want your kids to go to
school and smash the teachers and smash the other kids. Anyway,
let's get across. Jenny Wiley next US Talk sat Beef.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
No fluff, just facts and fierce debate.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Heather Dupe for see Allen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast,
where the defender embraced the impossible news Togs'd be here the.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
One hundred percent. Erica Stanford streets ahead of anywhere else,
anyone else. Heather, I agree, Thanks Erica, We're lucky to
have her. Yes, Erica Stanford rocks, Heather, It's a great
textas gone. Eric has got a lot of fans out
there now. I don't know if you're going to believe this,
but you know the old slow train from from Wellington,
from Hamilton to Auckland to who are well. They want
more money for it. They want to see how it
goes when it connects up with the train set that

(46:39):
goes under that's going to open next year under Auckland City.
We'll have a chat to Warren. Warren's on the y
Cuttle Regional. Actually incidentally is also so on occasion has
done some electrical work at my house, so we'll be
kind to Warren. But yeah, Warren's idea sucks up. We'll
tell why don't we just tell Warren that to his
face when he's with us shortly and then Kerry in
Tim will wrap the political week that was for us

(46:59):
and the year after eight it's twenty two away from it.

Speaker 13 (47:02):
Well you, Chris.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
So the inevitable has happened at Netblew, New Zealand following
the Dame Nolene Todu and Drama CEO Jenny Wiley has
resigned from her role, saying she's planning to focus on
family and look ahead to new opportunities. Cruz Tang Eda
is a former New Zealand men's netbule captain and he's
close to many of the players and the Silver Ferns
and he's with us morning cruise.

Speaker 17 (47:24):
Good morning. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah, thanks for being with this Listen. It feels to
me like this had to happen.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
What do you think?

Speaker 17 (47:30):
Yeah, I think I would have to agree with you, Heather.
I think this has kind of been a long time
coming in terms of the process that this has been through.
I mean, it started all the way back in January
at the Sydney training camp and it's taken until December
for there to be kind of rare resolve. Unfortunately, Nolan
had to be kind of you know, lose her job

(47:52):
and her name kind of tarnished in that process. But
I think changing able to happen in order to rebuild
the reputation of Netblewood in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Yeah, how the player is going to feel about this,
because it does feel like one camp has beaten the
other camp, right, the camp being Dame Knowles's camp has
beaten the players camp, which I would imagine Jenny was
part of.

Speaker 7 (48:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (48:13):
Yeah, And it's interesting because you know, I've spoken to
a few of the girls. And I'm not trying to
set aside the whole incident that happened, because I do
believe there was probably some players that did feel kind of,
you know, not not treated respectfully for lack of a
better word. However, there was a massive, massive divide between

(48:36):
the players and obviously the coaching stuff, and it's tough
when you know those kind of common aspirations don't aligne
And I think with Nolin coming back now, obviously she
should be reinstad in next year. I think a lot
of work has to go into just kind of rebuilding
the trust between the players and Noline and getting back
on board and everyone on the same page, because of

(48:58):
course there's a common rough games coming middle of to
twenty twenty six and they need to be on board
if they want to do well in that competition.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Do you think Dame Knowles is actually going to end
up coaching the Silver Ferns again, I.

Speaker 17 (49:09):
Personally believe she will. I don't believe she would have
put up a mass of fact that she has if
she didn't feel like she would add more value to
this team. Yeah, as I just mentioned, I feel like
there's the trust has been severed between the playing group
and her, just based on everything that happened and the
process that the way that the process has been handled.

(49:30):
But I do believe she will come back. I mean,
I think most of the Nipple public want her to
come back as well, given how much she's achieved and
put in the Silver Ferns and just Nipple in general.
But it will take a long time to kind of
get back to that point where everyone is on the
same page and they have that common goal that they
want to strivele.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
How much of the other problems like the decline of
the domestic league and the problems with the broadcast deal
and all that stuff can be laid at the feet
of Jenny as well.

Speaker 17 (50:00):
I don't know, if I mean, it takes a team
to kind of run a sporting institution like Neple New Zealand.
I wouldn't put the entire blame on her because it's
you know, it's not just her kind of managing these deals,
as other people on board as well. I think the
reputation that these kind of mishandles have added to it

(50:22):
has been quite severe. Like I don't think the reputation
of Netble within New Zealand has been the best of
the last couple of months pretty much a whole year
and now that we don't have a broadcast stale for
twenty twenty seven. Yeah, as you mentioned, teams have been dropped, well,
teams have pulled out, should I say, from the national
netble leg which is a huge pathway for young girls
coming through, particularly down in the Southland region. But I

(50:45):
wouldn't put the entire blame on her. Blame on her,
I think I do think it's like a team that
are kind of making these decisions. But yeah, a lot
of more if it needs to be done in order
to kind of regrow I guess that the growth and
the want of NetBoy in New Zealand. You know, we've
got a lot of young girls turning to the likes
of sevens and rugby because the opportunity is the better,

(51:07):
the pathways are clearer, and we can't lose more more
players to different codes around or sorry across in Zilling.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Yeah, Cruz, it's good to talk to you. I really
appreciate your time. It's Chrus hung Head, a former New
Zealand men's men's netball captain and also a netball commentator. Now,
if you listen to drive. You may be aware that
in the past wee while I have become somewhat like
a dangerously obsessed with Jetstar. This is it's because of

(51:35):
my love hate that mostly hate at the moment relationship
with the New Zealand and the thing that I'm trying.
I'm very hard. I'm trying very hard to make Jetstar
a thing by having caught my first jet Staff flight
in twenty month, twenty years earlier this month, and hoping
others will do the same. I am very happy to
report to you that the Prime Minister has taken my lead.
I'm going to I'm going to credit myself for this.

(51:55):
He's got on the jet Staff flight. He caught one yesterday.
I checked him with his office. We got very formal
about this. I was like, this is now an immediate request.
And the response is that the flight was five minutes
early in its arrival take that air New Zealand, and
it was also quote excellent. He seems to have raw
dognet and he didn't do any of the snack purchases
on board at all, which still I think remains the

(52:17):
most exciting thing for me about catching a jet Staff flight,
which is that you can have Cooru Hoer on the
jet staff flight at any hour. You don't have to
wait for corew hour. You can just order yourself whatever
you want. Isn't that a treat in the air for
all of Like how much fun I am having myself
with the jet staffing? This is reasonable? It still is

(52:38):
reasonably significant in that I really think that this signals
a shift in attitudes away and it's a real sign
of the loss of loyalty for Air New Zealand. I mean,
this guy is a former Air New Zealand CEO. He's
the leader of the government that has a shareholding in
their New Zealand and here he is catching the orange burden,
not even ashamed of it. But anyway, if he can
do it, you can do it. Sixteen away from.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Eight, the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by News Talks at b Well.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Heather, who's such a traitor supporting an Australian owned airline
versus By New Zealand.

Speaker 21 (53:13):
Not cool?

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Well, Anthony, if you're saying that I hope you never
ever shop at Ikere and that all your flat pack
comes from the warehouse, because it's basically the same argument.
Isn't it. I don't know in you, I'll just go
where it's cheap, and it's a hell of a lot
cheaper over the Orange Bird thirteen away from eight. Now,
thank the good Lord, we've ended the year with this
where we've got growth underway. Tick that one for the year,

(53:33):
and finally we can tick off the list. The Legacy
media has now covered the spat between Willie Jackson and
Matt McCartin. Here it is Audrey Young at the Herald
has finally reported the thing that all the texts have
been raving about and wanting. There has been a mass
of falling out between Willie Jackson and Matt mccarton, and
that is interesting because they are formerly very close friends
and political allies, and both of them are Union guys,

(53:56):
and both of them are lefties and so on. Anyway,
what's happened, according to Audrey's report in a nutshell. I mean,
we could go into the ins and outs, and it does,
but we could just do it in the nutshell, which
is Willy Jackson has trespassed Matt mccarton from the Watia
Midi compound in Mangari, which includes the officers of the
Monaco Maori Urban Authority which we're gonna call muma. Now

(54:18):
why he trespassed him is basically repeated breaches of Tea
Kunger and Copapa Maori. Matt mccarton has then encountered with
allegations of his own. He's claimed widespread bullying by the
murmur ceo who is Willie Jackson's wife, What a surprise.
And he's written to Labor Party leader Chris Hipkins and
the Parliamentary Speaker Jerry Brownlee and various other political leaders

(54:40):
and try to rope them into it. So far, all
the political leaders are either just a flat out ignoring
him or saying this is not our problem at all,
and that's just making Matt mccarton go harder. He's now
up to his campaign even more and he's told the
Herald that he plans to write to the more union
friendly MPs and the Labor and the Green parties in
a bid for them to put pressure on Willie Jackson. Now,
why I'm getting this out of the way, I'm very

(55:01):
happy to get this out of the way before the
end of the year, is because we have had an
enormous number an enormous number of texts in the last
few weeks asking us why are we not covering it?
And the truth of the matter is it is quite
an involved thing to have a look at, right, so
you really need to pay a lot of attention. Audrey
will have worked quite hard to make sure that this

(55:22):
report is fair and accurate and has got all the
legal boxes ticked and stuff like that, so that there's
no recourse and no one's going to get in trouble.
For Water said, so that's why it's taken a while
to stack up here.

Speaker 16 (55:32):
It is.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
We can stop complaining about it. But can I just say,
I do not understand the frustration is the fascination with
this story. I mean, on one level, I think absolutely
Willie Jackson's an MP and a very senior MP in
the Labor Party, and so his behavior should be scrutinized
and what he's doing, especially you know, the falling out
between the senior Labor MP and a union leader and
blah blah blah. That's all very interesting, but it's also

(55:55):
not interesting because it's Willie Jackson and Matt mccarton, and
of course they've had a fight with it. Do you know,
Willie Jackson and Matt mccarton, if any two people were
going to have a fight. It's just a wonder John
tummerhead he's not involved in it as well, because then
it would be the trifector. Of course they had a
fight with each other, so what who cares?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Right away from ten, Heather do for c Allen on
the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks,
they'd be Kerrie.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
And Tim are going to be with us shortly after
eight o'clock and wrap the week that was in the
year that was as well. It's seven away from eight.

Speaker 10 (56:24):
Now.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
I don't know if you're going to believe this, but
why Cuttle Regional Council is asking for a one year
extension for the de Huya train service. This is a
slow train that runs from Auckland to Hamilton. The funding
rounds that runs out in June next year, but they're
asking n ZTA to fund it through to June twenty
twenty seven. Warren maher is the Wykato Regional Council chair.

Speaker 22 (56:43):
Is with us.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Morning Warren, Good morning Heather. Now I've fenced up already
that we have a pre existing relationship with each other.
We know each other.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Yeah, excellent clarity out there, so we can have a.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Robust discussion without offending anyone on this, I look forward
to it. Okay, Warren, Now so just tell me. So basically,
what you guys want to do is you want to
test out whether the city rail link under Auckland is
going to make to Hui are better.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Is that right?

Speaker 21 (57:11):
Yes, yes, that's correct. That's sort of one of three
reasons why we reached that decision yesterday.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Okay, well, how would it make it better?

Speaker 21 (57:21):
Well, potentially then there's more services running past the stations etc.
So there's more opportunity for people to get to different
destinations once that central roll links up and running.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
But it doesn't make the train any faster, doesn't. It's
still a slow like the underlying concept still sucks.

Speaker 21 (57:41):
Yeah, personally potentially I agree with you. But what it
does do and it has proven to be slower than
a vehicle, so we're not arguing that point. But part
of the other two reasons behind the extension or the
asking for the extension, was that we had letters of
support and as well as a delegation from Himilton City councilors,

(58:01):
we had let us support from Wyke at a district
and also Wiper And you've got to remember it's the
Hamilton rate payers and the wykid A District rate payers
that are actually paying for this service. So you know
that we needed to listen to what they had to say,
but we made it very clear in our letter that
if we cannot get that fair assistance rate at sixty

(58:22):
percent as it sits now, if it drops back to
fifty one, we want the review of the trial to
go ahead at their April meeting of NZTA, And that
may be the death knell of Tahue. I'm not sure
That'll come down to a number of decisions and then
us going out to consultation in our long term.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Plan because what is this thing still costing? Is it
still about ninety two dollars per passenger to run it?

Speaker 8 (58:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Yeah, yep, it is.

Speaker 15 (58:48):
It is.

Speaker 21 (58:49):
And if you if you look at a Hamilton rate payers,
say a million dollar property, there's a twenty dollar flat
rate and then there's a ten dollars eighty eight per
one hundred thousand of CV. So basically, if you've got
a million doll home in Hamilton, you're paying one hundred
and twenty eight dollars in your white caout original council
rate to subsidize that service.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Yes, and I mean I.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Would think that if if we're getting the scalpel out,
if we're putting a rates cap on everybody and we're
getting the scalpel out and we're trying to get under
that four percent, this has got to be one of
the first things that gets cut.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Potentially.

Speaker 21 (59:18):
It's something we'll definitely look at for sure.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Brilliant. Okay, Warren, thank you. I still like you after that, actually,
so I'll see you for a beer. See you for
a beer maybe at the weekend. Mate, look after yourself.
As Warren ma whyecatt or regional council chair and incidentally,
fantastic electrician okay aa is asking us to calm down
because they've done a survey and it's quite wild what

(59:41):
drivers are doing to try to hold onto the car
parks this Christmas shopping season. A survey of nearly one
thousand drivers asked about parking habits. Twenty percent of those
drivers said they'd resorted to using unconventional methods like blocking
spaces with cones to reserve it for themselves or their
designated driver, or lying down in the car park space

(01:00:02):
that's mental. Other people are using objects like shopping trolleys
and bills, bins to block entry to the space, asking
someone to stand in the spits the traditional stuff stand
in the space, or leaving a fake note or warning
on another car to ward them off. And one in
seven drivers are reporting that they're clashing with other drivers
over a single space and then it turns into a

(01:00:22):
verbal argument who has the right to be there? And
I think, I mean, you know, wow, is of especially
if you're like, listen, if you're at the point where
like I'm just going to lie down here, you need
to check your behavior and maybe listen to the AA. Anyway,
Carrie and Tim is with us next.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Asking the questions others won't. Heather Duplessy Allen on the mic,
asking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, doing real estate differently
since nineteen seventy three, News Talk Dead Bad.

Speaker 22 (01:01:01):
It's Kylie Min Oak.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
You recognize this, Yeah, Kylie Minoak, Kylie Christmas Brackets, pully wrapped.
I don't know what that means. Number one in the
charts in the UK, number one on the album's charts.
She's pushed off all kinds of people who've slipped down
as a result of including Tata. She's doing quite well.

(01:01:23):
You want to go and see the album cover. It's
a saucy little thing show from our lovely Kylie White.
But unfortunately Carrie's face is not doing a good thing.

Speaker 22 (01:01:33):
And you haven't even spoken.

Speaker 7 (01:01:34):
No.

Speaker 22 (01:01:36):
I think Kylie, Kylie's gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
I love Kylie.

Speaker 22 (01:01:40):
But top of the Christmas charts really?

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Well, who else will be top of the Christmas chats?

Speaker 20 (01:01:46):
Well?

Speaker 22 (01:01:46):
Any one of the Driving Home for Christmas or you know,
I mean Chris Rare, the old classic like real usually
in the seventies or the nineteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
But Christmas is nostalgia. This is what we always get,
get the old bangers.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Hello, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
I've got your name right this time around.

Speaker 22 (01:02:06):
And can I say some improvement.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
You cannot see this, but Carrie has turned up in
a kind of merlow, like a burgundy red frock, which
is apparently her festive frock. And she gets a festive
frock every year and is shocked that I do not
buy myself annually some sort of a festive outfit, do you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
I'm wearing.

Speaker 16 (01:02:26):
I'm wearing my festive trackies at the moment, the same
trackies I always wear.

Speaker 22 (01:02:34):
Sorry, Lovely Georgia, you know, our lovely young colleague.

Speaker 14 (01:02:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:02:38):
I came in and she said, oh, you love these
earrings and I peered at them and I went, oh,
I do. It's a pretty little ballerina and a Christmas
dress with little Christmas ball slippers to put your glasses on,
and what was it? Center center doing the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Splits and the balls are something good.

Speaker 8 (01:02:55):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
She's got great in an you you go out and
buy yourself a Christmas frock?

Speaker 11 (01:03:01):
Do you?

Speaker 22 (01:03:01):
I think I've done so well?

Speaker 15 (01:03:03):
Not?

Speaker 22 (01:03:03):
You know, sometimes in the olden days it used to
be on lay by and it doesn't have to be
expensive or it has to be a Christmas something. I
think Mum started it to be perfectly honest.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
It's quite a nice thing to do.

Speaker 11 (01:03:13):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 22 (01:03:14):
I mean, I know you don't like dresses, which is
a shame because I haven't gone public with this factor,
so now everyone knows I don't like dresses.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
I don't like Lots of people don't like dresses.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
It's very hard to do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Let's be honest. It's hard to do things in a dress,
isn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:28):
No.

Speaker 22 (01:03:28):
I've managed all my life dresses like a flight of steam.
I most certainly can and high heels, but also.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
It has led to some breakages in your life.

Speaker 22 (01:03:37):
Well that is true, but I mean I.

Speaker 16 (01:03:40):
Have I've never felt more like a male during this conversation.
You guys just started speaking other language.

Speaker 22 (01:03:46):
A fest of romper blah blah. I think that in
a fest of romper, nothing says Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Yeaht of you know, so I did. I did one time.
I did buy a red fest of ones and I
still have it. Actually might get it out for you
carry thank you very much now late now my last day.
Oh yeah, oh well you're seeing it. You'll send you
Thank God though, isn't that good?

Speaker 11 (01:04:09):
Thank God?

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
You know what?

Speaker 22 (01:04:11):
Tim? I was thinking this this week and actually had
discussions with the boss that our holidays are too long.
They're a bit like the old two day lunches that
used to be a hoots wahe and lots of fun,
and now they're just gross and excessive. Seven week holidays
used to be yay and aspirational. And I really thinks,
oh that's a bit excessive.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Do you think so, aren't they?

Speaker 7 (01:04:31):
Tim?

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
I was it my Catholic girl?

Speaker 16 (01:04:33):
Yeah, no, no, no, I'm just I'm just trying to
because yeah, I'm just trying to balance it because I
sort of you know, and off we think because you know,
we got four boys. So yeah, when the holidays come,
it's like hoorad and it's like, oh my goodness, what
are we going to do? I'm actually I'm actually currently
wounded because I got shot in the eye with a
NERF gun last night, because I've been a NERF gun war.

(01:04:53):
And when I woke up this morning, it was sort
of like these black spots over my left eye that
sort of looked like bracken, and I was like, oh, Roman, no,
I'll be all right. Come see, I'm a I'm a bloke.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
I don't go.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
That's fine. I mean, that's your eye. If you want
to lose it, that's true. How are we to tell?

Speaker 22 (01:05:13):
But then the agony will get so much that you'll
be queuing on Christmas Day and already overworked ED department
will be seeing somebody who put off getting treatment.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Actually, Tim, you spent that you spent was it one
or two nights this week in Starship?

Speaker 16 (01:05:26):
One night in Starship because we we decided to do
two boys with their tonsils, So four tonsils, four adnoids,
and two boys. Yeah, yeah, no they I'll tell you
what though, I don't know where they came from. These well,
these boys, it must be their mother's side. So the

(01:05:46):
surgeon walks in and says Roman, and Roman looks up
and says, so it's my time to die?

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Is it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Too many movies? By the standing? Did you tim? I
love stars and I think I got. Yeah, all cland
parents are so fortunate to have a dedicated children.

Speaker 22 (01:06:06):
It's for all children, it is, and they do get
the opportunities.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Hone down from bit of hooping cough, do you know
what I mean? Other parents obviously only get flown up
if there's like some sort of like brain bleed or
something like that. My child's and charity too. Yeah, I
love them.

Speaker 8 (01:06:19):
Did you get?

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
And what I love about it is you get nowadays
they've got the kiddy's bed or the cot or whatever.
And then the parent gets like a did you get
the pull out thing?

Speaker 8 (01:06:28):
I got?

Speaker 16 (01:06:28):
I got mattresses. Here's here's the here's the tip that
I got from from a parent who's been been there
for a few days, and she said, get two mattresses
if you can stack them on top of each other.

Speaker 22 (01:06:39):
Oh yeah, yes, I've done the mattress on two over
my time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
And you want to double blanket as well, because they
run that just a little bit chilly.

Speaker 22 (01:06:47):
Yeah, you are living proof of something I've said just recently.
It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye,
and you are right, can I We also do a
shout out to all the other grandparents I see who
are trying to help out during the school holidays as
we're all trying to do fun things with the kids
that don't cost ten thousand dollars every time you go somewhere. Yeah,

(01:07:10):
I see you grandparents.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
We see all the grandparents. Thank the Good Lord for
the grandparents, especially the ones that will end up with
broken bones as a result. We'll take a quick break,
come back with these two. It's thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Back with Tim Wilson and Kerry Wouldham. Tim, have you
had to look at those vanity fair photographs of the
Trump administration?

Speaker 11 (01:07:41):
Uh?

Speaker 16 (01:07:41):
Yes, I have thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Why did they do it?

Speaker 16 (01:07:46):
Like two words vanity fair And they say it's like,
oh well, oh golly, we didn't realize the coverage would
be like this, Well, of course it won't.

Speaker 7 (01:07:52):
It's vaverity Fair.

Speaker 16 (01:07:54):
It's like it's like someone you know, someone like a
National Party guy, going, why was John Campbell so mean
to me?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
You've brought it up now I'm going to have to
talk about it later on, just as one of why
why would John Campbell possibly be mean to somebody from
the National Party.

Speaker 22 (01:08:13):
But also you've got to get approval, Like I've looked
that even working in the media, you get approval of
the text, you get approval of the photos and Rookie
era very early on, I didn't get approven headline, but.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
The headline isn't the same garry Like if you go
in the Women's Day, you get the approval. But I
reckon that that magazines with it, I don't want to
be unkind, but with like a stronger editorial stance would
never give you approval.

Speaker 22 (01:08:41):
Only marginally stronger with vanity Fair.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Do you reckon that they would give you a problem.

Speaker 22 (01:08:45):
And it's like the Atlantic, I mean, surely those Susie
Economist or I mean it's true, but surely Susie Wilde's
going and sitting down and going time you say Susie Wilde,
that image of Susie wild No, no, no.

Speaker 16 (01:08:58):
When you first said Susie Wilde, I was like Auckland
pro vacs academic doing in Vanity Fair. I have to
see what's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Oh lord, you guys. I mean, I'll preface it by
saying the American Suz Yes. So when the American scuse
he was sat down and read her Vanity Fair and said,
oh look, I called him trumpy. I said he had
an alcoholic personality. Do you think she went there? Fine,
let's take that one off.

Speaker 22 (01:09:22):
No, But I mean you've got to ask, I mean,
a why would you do vanity Fair? Good question, Andy,
why would you do it without getting absolute approval of everything?

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Unfair? Carry when we look at the pictures of the
press sect and see her collagen stabs in her lips
and make comment.

Speaker 22 (01:09:39):
No, I mean, I mean obviously she has fellow, and
lots of young women do, and lots of I mean
more young women I think these days have it than
older women because they're trying to turn back time. Oh,
my young sisters, my young sister.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
They're trying to prevent the passage of time.

Speaker 7 (01:09:56):
And child friend, Yeah, who wants to young.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Do you see the Prime Minister called the Jetstar?

Speaker 16 (01:10:04):
Yeah, yeah, and I was I was sort of thinking, oh, yeah,
he made a choice. But you're right, it's like Prime
Minister owns part of the part of the New Zealand.
Oh and used to be used to be the CEO
of the New zeal And. Having said that his end
of your speech for so far and he can do
whatever he likes.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Oh do you enjoy that?

Speaker 11 (01:10:20):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
I enjoyed that as well.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Yeah, did he?

Speaker 7 (01:10:24):
Do you think he did the best speech?

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:10:26):
In terms of comedic awards?

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Who would you who would you say beat him? Because
I'm going to tell you now, chis Chippy's analogy the
metaphor that he was drawing with the barbecue that went
on for about seven minutes. By the end of it,
it was by thirty seconds. It was tired. Yeah, but
do you know who he was.

Speaker 22 (01:10:41):
One of the best speakers at Barry's Valedictory Center or
his speech writer. But he delivered it well, you know
there were some banging speeches at Barry's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Yeah, but we're not talking about bars. You're doing the
thing that Barry does when I talk about anything, and
Barry goes that I know were not once upon a
time when I was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Of a story about me.

Speaker 22 (01:11:05):
I'm so sorry, but no, no, I thought that was
relevant because we were talking about funny speeches and I
can deliver them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah, But also.

Speaker 22 (01:11:15):
I want our PM to get somewhere expeditiously, and ideally
he would use their New Zealand because Air New Zealand
have to cover the roots that Jetstar choosers not to,
so they have to do roots that that Jetstar don't do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
If you want to get there expeditiously, then you'll use whatever.
And I'm going to do Jet Star, yeah, because they
get their on time well or is Air New Zealand.

Speaker 22 (01:11:33):
But also if that's that's his schedule, I don't want
them going well, I'm going to virtue signal by sitting
for two hours in a corel lounge and wait for
an airs.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Now what are you doing for Christmas? Carry you got
anything fun planned?

Speaker 22 (01:11:44):
Well some might say yes, I'm doing a roadie with
my mum. Okay, so we're having breakfast with the family
and then and the unwrapping of the pre presence of
the little ones. Then I prefer to see it as
Thelma and Louise than driving Daisy. We're heading to the
Rotterda Lakes. Yes, because I've never done the Rotada Alakes

(01:12:05):
and that's where my brother and sister in Laura and
all their family are so were gate crashing their Christmas.

Speaker 15 (01:12:09):
This is nice.

Speaker 22 (01:12:10):
And then I'm taking it fun to see her old
school friend who she's knowine for eighty three years. And
both of these wild, fabulously wonderful independent women are.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Still you know, who gets to pack the chuns in
the car.

Speaker 22 (01:12:23):
We're going to take it in turns. We both agree
on Neil Diamond and relevant given that the movie's coming
out on Year's Day, and then we take it in turns.
I've got her into Marlon Williams, Glenn.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Marlon Williams, oh listen.

Speaker 10 (01:12:35):
Tim.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Glenn has controversially said Marlon Williams sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Oh I was?

Speaker 7 (01:12:41):
Is this a new one.

Speaker 22 (01:12:44):
In Funeral?

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
And I just won't have it.

Speaker 22 (01:12:46):
And I have held Glenn in the highest regard.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Yeah until now, but he's cooked his goose. It's just
the music, yeah, kickling. Roy Aubison's voice apparently is.

Speaker 22 (01:12:55):
Just it doesn't warble, he saws like an angel.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Well he just he juster and aids doesn't doesn't it.
We're sexy. Treat boys, I mean, do we need to
calm down right now a little bit? What are you
doing for Christy other than getting shot in the face
of the nerve gun?

Speaker 8 (01:13:09):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (01:13:09):
Four boys?

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
What bless?

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
What bless we?

Speaker 16 (01:13:12):
Actually, you know what, We're off to sing some Carols
tonight with our in laws. So this is well, my
mate actually married Rachel's sister and so they've got four
girls and we've got four boys, and it's going to
be absolute bedlam and chaos, but it'll be Carol chaos
that sounds.

Speaker 22 (01:13:30):
You'll be able to get all glory of OL's old
school equipment.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Thanks anyway, don't worry. God got her back and she's coughing.

Speaker 22 (01:13:42):
I hope you're doing something really lovely and feminine and
beautiful for the beautiful, beautiful wife and mother of yours.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Four amazing yes, treat the ladies. Hey, listen, guys, look
after yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Chris, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, God bless you.

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Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
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symptom that requires immediate medical attention by an ophthalmologist. It
could be a warning sign of a retinal terror detachment,
which can lead to permanent vision loss. Okay, Julian, nothing
to worry about. I think we'll give him a call
just being a man, though he's probably going to just
ignore it, isn't it. And it's the last day of
the year, like as the last day of the working year.

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Who's going to see Tim's eye? Probably going blind, doesn't he?
Murray Olds is with us? Out of Australia Short, we
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Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Well, gosh, Donald Trump, Donald Trump is struck again. The
Trump Center, Oh sorry, The Kennedy Center has now been
renamed the Trump Kennedy Center. This is a it's been
revealed on x formerly known as Twitter, that the board
has voted to do that. They may run into a
little bit of difficulty with this because the original roles
that guided the creation of the Kennedy Center, basically specifically

(01:16:17):
prohibited the renaming of the building, anticipating presumably that some
guy who paints the face orange would come along and
do something like this.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
The chair of the board at the Trump Kennedy Center
these days.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
So yeah, I mean, I can't imagine that there was
any undue influence on them whatsoever. It is notable that
none of them are talking about it at the minute.
Twenty two away from.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
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Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Murray Old's Australia correspondent is with us muzz good morning
to you.

Speaker 8 (01:16:47):
I had the good morning to you now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
So Elbow's under some pressure, isn't he?

Speaker 8 (01:16:51):
No kidding, no kidding, and massivelya kalpa yesterday on the
back of last Sunday. He really had nowhere else to
go because in the last two years you and I
have spoken about this, the anti Semitic rhetorics really amped
up over here. You've had almost every weekend for the
last couple of years, the Palestine Action Group march into

(01:17:13):
the streets of Sydney with the blessing on at least
one occasion, I think maybe two of the new South
Wales Supreme Court. They said the police could not step
in and stop the march, notwithstanding of fact it may
have run up in one case against a pro's Ralli march.
So alban Easy commissioned his own hand picked anti Semitics envoy,

(01:17:36):
if you will, a woman of you know, and Jullian
Siegel very well regarded on both sides of politics, and
she presented a report to the government in July basically saying, listen,
we have to do a whole bunch of different things.
Heather in an education in terms of the eases and
so on and so forth. It's sat on the shelf

(01:17:57):
gathering dust. They hand picked the government cherry picked a
few items and said there we go, that's it, set
and forget. Well, no, we saw these helfwards last Sunday.
And so what Albanese has now done. We're going to
adopt all of these Seagull recommendations. We're going to target
hate preachers who use the Internet to spread their horrible messages.
We're going to really ramp up penalties for those who

(01:18:18):
are convicted of hate speech. We're going to have hate
as an aggravating factor in sentencing for those convicted of
these online threats. There's going to be a list of
organizations that are banned. You're going to have tougher visa checks,
plus an education task force to make sure the education
system has got the tools to respond. Do you know
in this country Jewish students at university is not all

(01:18:41):
that some have got secure spaces to go and study.
And the other thing, the other point that really shocked
me this week, and I hadn't even thought about it.
A synagogue is the only place in Australia place of
worship that's locked. Anglican churches, mosques, seek temples, they're all open,
go in and worship. You can't if you're a Jew.

(01:19:02):
And it's just horrible. So yeah, when he's under a
hell of a lot of pressure hither he may even
recall Parliament this coming summer to get this stuff through.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Mus Am I right in thinking that he hasn't gone
to any of the funerals of the Bondi victims.

Speaker 8 (01:19:17):
No, he hasn't. He hasn't been to any of the funerals,
and they are ongoing. I suppose the funeral yesterday of
the youngest victim of Lovely Little girl ten years old,
but Tilda mom and dad didn't want their surname views.
But his office said he didn't that there's an elaborate
protocol around all of this. You can't just rock up
to a funeral if you're the prime minister or the

(01:19:37):
opposition leader. You have to go through these channels and
the officer typically reaches out, may we have the prime
minister attend your funeral service? They said they did not
do that in the case of alb and Easy because
of the anger of this little girl's mom and dad.
They said, bloody hell, he didn't do enough. You did
not do enough to protect this. So his office said, no,

(01:19:58):
we're not going to do that. Susan Lee's office did
do that, and they went through a very able, very
capable opposition front bencher who's Jewish, a guy called Julian Lisa,
very balanced man. He said, listen, can Susan Lee come along?
I'll come too. They said, fine, then you come. So yes,
it's you know, he has not been to any of

(01:20:19):
these funerals, is not sure if they'll go to any.
But I'll tell you what, it's been harrowing viewing this week.
There's some sense, you know, I mean, it's cordy and
tried and cliche, but there is an innocence lost. I
think a lot of Australians thought this is never going
to happen here, and the bloody world did.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Yeah, I think. I think in a way though, mus
in a way, what has happened is that around the
Western world, in democratic societies, liberal societies, where we have
allowed the Jews to be treated like this and got
used to the idea that there has to be a
security guard outside of Kadema and that's somehow normal, we
have been shocked into realizing this is not okay. And

(01:20:55):
so I think the loss of the innocence is not
just it's predominantly with you, but around the world. But
listen Josh Fredenburg, right, so he got really angry about
this at the Prime Minister and he's been accused of
politicizing the situation. Is that a fair accusation.

Speaker 8 (01:21:08):
Well, he can't have it both ways. I mean, Josh
Fredenburg came to BONDEI on Wednesdays was a Wednesday Thursday
of this week, and he look, he was You cannot
doubt the man's sincerity. He is a Jew, a proud duke.
He's also been a very senior and very well regarded
politician for the liberal side of Australian politics. No one
says a bad word about Fredenburg and his emotion, his

(01:21:32):
sense of loss, like crying. Now he was one hundred
percent genuine. And then he's just ripped into Albanezy, you
caused this, you brought this on us. But then he
goes on television that night, National TV. He's asked a
question about politicizing the tragedy and he just explodes. He
you know, how dare you said, I'm deeply offended. Make

(01:21:53):
you're the one who did it only a few hours earlier.
You can't have it both ways. And of course this
thing's been politicized. You know they're all saying all tiptoeing
around and dancing around and here, but of course has
been politicize. Suason Lee I think has come out looking
pretty well, look pretty good. But I've always liked Susan
Lee in that room full of blue suits and you know,

(01:22:14):
men with sharp teeth. I think she's done the hell
of a job. And I think she stepped up this
week as well. She's been restrained and moderate and so on.
You know, has been dreadful and that's isis Isis came
out of the night praise these BONDI beach halfwards, a
source of pride said isis the two killers were lions
and that warned that more attacks are coming.

Speaker 16 (01:22:33):
Pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Yeah, Murray, thank you very much mate, look after Someone's
a joy to talk to you throughout the year and
I hope you and yours have a lovely Christmas. It's
Murray Old's Australia crosspondent. Listen to a little bit more
on that and just what's going on re anti Semitism.
I'll get your cross at next sixteen away from nine the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
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Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
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Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
So on what muzz was just talking about read the
anti semitism. It hasn't taken long and I think this
is a theme that I kind of have been talking
about for a couple of days now. It hasn't taken
long for people to all of a sudden just to
have an awakening to what is going on for Jewish people.
The UK police have already already arrested a couple of
people for anti semitism, anti semitism, for chanting the slogans

(01:23:19):
involving the word into farda overnight. Remember they only just
said I was telling you this just yesterday. I said,
they've changed, They've changed their stance. They're going to start
arresting people if they using the word into farda. And
literally within hours of me telling you that two people
had already been arrested. And by the way, they now
saying if Chloe comes to the UK and pulls out
her stunt from the river to the sea, et cetera,

(01:23:40):
et cetera, that could also lead to an arrest. So
watch that dry up real quick. And then over in Australia,
there's a staff for at the Sydney University. The video
is actually quite a thing to watch. She has been
sacked because the video emerged showing her screaming at Jewish
students who were celebrating a holiday which happened over in October.
She called them filthy, rubbish, disgusting, child killers and parasites.

(01:24:03):
And these are just a couple of Australian Jewish kids
right just all they do is like a stall at
the university or something, and this academic comes up just
like literally going nuts at them. The interesting thing about
it is initially when the university was aware of it.
They only suspended her after Bondi sacked her immediately, So
everything has changed now twelve past nine, twelve away from nine. Rather,

(01:24:26):
I've been getting a few texts this morning about the
John Campbell appointment at aren Z. It is interesting. It's
worth reading the Herald this morning. Go have a look
at Shane Curry's piece. Always does a brilliant piece actually,
and he's reporting Shane Curry is that the decision to
hire John Campbell for morning report at the state broadcaster
was the subject of robust discussion at arn Z board level,

(01:24:47):
and not all board members were aligned or necessarily agreed
with the proposed appointment, but ultimately, says Shane, it was
not their call.

Speaker 7 (01:24:54):
Now, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
It is a strange to let's be honest, it's a
strange decision because if there's one theme that's really emerged
from for the last few years, but particularly the last year,
it is the scrutiny on media when it comes to
impartiality and bias. Right, and have a look at what's
happening to the BBC right now, rebiased. They are in
the world's biggest trouble over that even have a look

(01:25:19):
at what's just happened to the ABC being called out
by one of the daughters of a BONDI victim for
a lack of impartiality and for bias. So this is
a hot topic. So you would think if you were
a state broadcaster appointing somebody in this particular environment, you
would be looking to go for somebody who's straight down
the middle. You cannot accuse John Campbell of being straight
down the middle because he has you know, he has

(01:25:42):
in the past admitted to voting for the likes of
the Act of the Alliance Party. Sorry, who are you know,
left of labor type thing. Now, I don't have a problem, right,
I don't have a problem with bias. I think you should.
I think everybody is biased. I'm biased, John Campbell's bias.
We're all biased. I think the most the most honorable
thing to do in this situation is declare your bias.

(01:26:02):
So be like, yeah, sure, I come from a conservative
all libertarian worldview, or I come from a I love
the left, whatever, do it. Don't pretend you don't have bias.
And this is the problem with our n Z. They've
already put out a statement saying John Campbell has a
commitment to impartial journalism. No he doesn't. He doesn't, and
that's your mistake. Just be honest about it and you wouldn't.

(01:26:22):
Then people would believe you and trust would not go
ten away from nine.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Either dupicl and on the my asking breakfast were the
defender and use togs dead?

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
B oh lord, we're back on any New Zealand on
the text text are still coming in about other people
feel strongly about the story.

Speaker 21 (01:26:39):
Either.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
I have some sympathy for Air New Zealand. The orange
bird only flies a few roots in New Zealand, and
New Zealand has to cover the whole country. Well, there
is an element of truth to that. It has got
the backstop of the government though, doesn't it. So you
know swings and roundabouts. Now on the subject of Australia,
can I just say, I reckon they're onto something with education.
I reckon we might want to try this out. The

(01:27:01):
last couple of days week or so, the Aussie papers
have been full of what's going on in education over there.
The Sydney Morning Herald because of course all the kids
are getting their grades at the moment, and the Sydney
Morning Herald has an entire section that's dedicated to HSC,
which is the achievement that they get at the end
of secondary school. And it's just like they go ballistic

(01:27:21):
on it. They've got videos of the smartest kids receiving
their results and seeing how well they've done. They've got
the names and the photographs of individuals students that have
done well, and the schools that have done well. They've
got like these are the headlines. Ruby and her mum
react to the school North Sydney Boys tops the HSC
for the third year in a row. How your school
ranked in the twenty twenty five HC the twenty twenty

(01:27:43):
five HSC on a roll every student with the top bandlisted. Anyway,
it just goes on and on and the coverage is nuts,
and it was like leading the front page yesterday. Just
occurred to me that if we want to do well
in education, and if we want to make this a
thing that kids strive for, maybe we should make more
of a fuss about you know, we make a fuss
about the first fifteen, maybe we can make a fuss
about the nerdy kids as well. It seems like a

(01:28:05):
fantastic approach to education, don't you think maybe just a
little hot idea for ourselves for next year. Five away from.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
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Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
So next year, America is celebrating two hundred and fifty
years since the country was founded. There's been a number
of announcements already for what's happening. They're having the big
UFC event at the White House. They're going to suppose
as supposedly, have the largest fireworks display in the world.
That's according to Trump, So I mean, you know, take
it with the grain of salt. There will also be
a Great American State Fair at the National Mall, involving

(01:28:38):
representation from all fifty states. Trump is bringing back the
Salute to America. There will also be this in the fall, we.

Speaker 15 (01:28:46):
Will host the first ever Patriot Games, an unprecedented four
day athletic event featuring the greatest high school athletes, one
young man and one young woman from each state and territory.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Event that has a boy and a girl from every state.
Is it making you think of this? I volunteer this
tribute A we all thought that immediately, like, oh dear God,
here we go.

Speaker 8 (01:29:15):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
The comparisons are being made online already there's no word
on whether there will be a Death Games. But then again,
it's Donald Trump, so look anything as possible and yep,
that's a joke, so don't get outraged by that given
the current climate now, it always feels weird to me
to be the one to kind of bring this show
to an end, because of course it's the Mike Hosking

(01:29:36):
Breakfast Show, but it is the Mike Hosking break the
final Mike hosting breakfast show of the year. So can
I say on behalf of Mike and the team, thank
you so much for tuning in, keeping him company, sending
him texts so just you know, sort him out from
time to time because that's always a bit necessary. Thank
you to Sam and Glenn who also do the old
sorting out from time to time. And also just quick

(01:29:58):
shout out to my drive team you have put up
with me throughout the year. Thank you so much support
for supporting News Talks it. But you have yourself a
lovely Christmas, Stay safe and I'll see you in the
new year.

Speaker 11 (01:30:09):
We never come down this Timmy time, this tummy, this time, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
Well, you'll be.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
Hard.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
You always here.

Speaker 11 (01:30:28):
This time, this Timmy.

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