Act's leader says a strong relationship with Winston Peters is important, as Government-forming talks continue.
David Seymour and the New Zealand First leader talked for just 10 minutes in Wellington today.
He told Heather du Plessis Allan it wasn't a long talk, but it was productive.
He says it's worth taking the time to speak face-to-face - with three years ahead of them.
He says all three parties have to work together and a triangle is always going to be stronger than a V, if all three parties are talking at the same time.
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