Labour's accusing the Government of demonising beneficiaries - while people are being laid off.
Figures out today show 20-thousand more people are drawing JobSeeker benefits than a year ago.
Minister Louise Upston says that underscores the need for her policies - which include cutting JobSeekers by 50-thousand, by 2030.
Carmel Sepuloni says Government cuts mean thousands of public service workers are losing their job.
She says it's unfair for the Government to stigmatise beneficiaries -- both for people on welfare, and those that might end up there.
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