Murray Olds: Australian Correspondent on NZ-born criminals being deported to NZ

Australia's Immigration Minister Andrew Giles issued ‘Direction 110’ on Friday, which means non-citizens with violent criminal records can be deported, even if they'd lived their whole lives in the country. 

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says "it's just not right". 

Australian Correspondent Murray Olds told Heather du Plessis Allan “This is Politics 101, and Labour’s only got itself to blame.”  

Olds said “Let’s be honest: it’s not about parking tickets – it's about serious criminals – rapists, sex abusers, murderers for God’s sake.” 

Old said "These are the people that Australia doesn't want... where are we going to take them? Send them back to New Zealand."

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good afternoon. Australia is renegging on its agreement not to
deport kiwi's who've largely lived their lives in Australia. The
Aussie Immigration Minister Andrew Giles is replacing the so called
Direction ninety nine, which considered a deporty's ties to Australia
before okaying the deportation. It's now going to be replaced
with Direction one one zero, which puts more emphasis on
protecting the Australian community. He says non citizens with a

(00:39):
history of family or sexual violence should be deported, even
if they've lived most of their lives in Australia. And
he was asked what New Zealand's response to this has been.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
My concern is to act in the national interest. I
telephoned as I told the Parliament the Deputy Prime Minister
Winston Peters to tell him about our intention to put
in place, and you revised to record to ensure that
the principles of common sense and the protection of the
Australian community or paramount when it came to these conditions.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Murrio Old is our Aussie correspondent.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Hey, maas very good Affernoon.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Do you have that this is basically going back to
the way it was, isn't it? Anyone with a sniff
of a connection to New Zealand has come in this way?

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Well yeah, pretty much. And you know, I mean that
came in under Scott Morrison, maybe even you know, Tony
Abbott or whatever. The revolving door of Liberal prime ministers
was in the nine years before Albanezy got in. But
Labor fair and square, I mean, honest to god, this
is politics one oh one and Labour's only got itself
to blame. Heather. It introduced Direction ninety nine, as you say,

(01:38):
on the back of that promise between Albanisi and Jacindra Adern. Yes,
New Zealand would not be copying all these Aussie grown criminals.
The fact that New zealand And citizens came here as
a baby or you know, two or three years old,
they've grown up in Australia and become criminals here. Why
isn't New Zealand's problem. Adern had a very good point

(01:59):
and Albani. He agreed with that, and so that's where
Direction ninety nine came in. I mean, it's just all
welly and its dreadful sort of language. Okay, So under
Direction ninety nine, the primary consideration for the Administrative Appeals Tribunal,
that's the body of public servants set up to look
at this issue. Are you going to be deported or

(02:21):
are you not? And let's be you know, honestly, it's
not about parking tickets we're talking about here, Heather. We're
talking about serious criminals, rapists, child sex abuses, murderers. For
God's sake, these are the people that Australia doesn't want
here where are going to take them? We're going to
send them back to New Zealand under this new one.
And the Government has just been getting kicked from pillar

(02:43):
to post for the last fortnight, three weeks over this
ridiculous Direction ninety nine. How they get themselves out of
this hole with them with Wellington, I'm not sure, but
politically they just could not continue like this because poor
old Andrew Giles is sitting up there like some Punch
and Judy show, and Peter Dutton's got the great Big.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Bat is Jile's going to keep his job or is he?
Dog Tucker?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Mate, Look, here's the thing. Apparently I didn't realize this
until this whole thing blew up, But apparently Andrew Giles,
and Andrew and Anthony ALBANIZI are besties. They go back, way,
way way back, and they are from the same political faction.
I understand. That's what I read this week. Anyway. I mean,
to be honest, I've never heard of Andrew Giles. He's
just one of these anonymous front benchers who every government

(03:29):
is stacked with. They don't do very much or where
they don't sort of make too many headlines. And so
he's there sort of stumbling and bubbling through this portfolio.
He just looked like an absolutely hopeless dult out of
his death. And so whether or not Albanize, He's got
him in the back room with a rubber hose and said, mate,
you've got to sort this out. So now we have
Direction ninety nine replaced with Direction one hundred and ten.

(03:51):
Just tell me what don't mean?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
You tell me just real quickly. Is it retrospective? Is
this going to apply to the people who've already been
spared deportation under Direction ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
No, it's not, because Giles has used one hundred and
ten to recancel the viasas of thirty five non citizens
whose cancelations were overturned. Right, Yeah, so those thirty five
who actually appealed successfully appealed hither to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.
Oh listen, I've got a very strong tie to the
Australian community. I might have an Australian wife, might have

(04:18):
Australian children, might of Australian family connections that go back
thirty forty fifty years. I only came over from New
Zealand when I was six months old. The government now
is bowing to the political inevitability of all of this.
It says, okay, sorry, you're not a citizen. Back you
go to New Zealand. How that's going to go down
and willing and I don't know. But by the way
over here and now you've got forty legal civil society

(04:40):
human rights groups are saying, oh Didhams did THEMS? It's
far too harsh politically, the government's had no choice made.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, No, totally, Ruth you, muz, Thank you as always.
Marry Old's Australia correspondent for more.

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