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June 10, 2024 11 mins

Tonight on The Huddle, Trish Sherson from Sherson Willis PR and Ali Jones from Red PR joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!

Chinese Premier Li Qiang is set to visit New Zealand later this week. Is this good news for the country?

Oil and gas exploration is back on the table, as Minister Shane Jones has confirmed the ban will be revered later this year. Will investors return - or is it too late for New Zealand?

The police have launched a homicide investigation after a 10-month-old baby boy died in Waikato. Have we gotten too used to hearing about these kinds of deaths? 

How do we feel about unexpected phone calls? Should people always text first beforehand? 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty on paralleled
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Results went away from six. Trish Shirson on the huddle
with us. From Shirson, Willis pr and Alie Jones read
pr Hello you too, Hello, good e Tricia. You seeing
the announcement of the Chinese premiere visiting is a big deal.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
I am seeing this as a big deal. I think
it's overall it's good news for New Zealand. I think
what it signals is the work that has been done
since the election to try and send a signal to
the world that New Zealand is open for business. The
big push is to get more foreign direct investment, and
we know we're a very difficult place to come and

(00:38):
get investment. So I think it is a really good thing,
and it is put everything else aside about China. They
are critical for New Zealand, not just in terms of trade,
but in terms of where we sit in the world.
So I think it is a really important visit.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, what do you reckon? Allie?

Speaker 4 (00:56):
I agree, but I think it's really interesting. You know,
Trisch said everything else aside about China. I think that's
the hard bit and I'm not saying that I've got
the answers, and I'm not being critical of what you said, Trish,
but I think that's always in the background, the human
rights Hong Kong to bet and so forth.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
But look, I agree with you. I think it is
really important.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
I think it's particularly important with what's going on in
the Pacific at the moment, with New Zealand being interested
in the Pillar.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
Two of the Orchist partnership.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
But look, you've got to have people in the tent
to have good diplomatic relations, and this is a start
with that.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Tris you were speaking about, you know, being a difficult
place to invest in. Do you think we will ever
see the overseas investors return to the oil and gas industry.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well, the key words I think came from your text
and just before we came on air, that it is
hard for big overseas investors to trust New Zealand. So
you know, even though this government is doing everything it
can to get out and hang out the welcome sign.

(01:58):
If I were a big overseas investor and I'm making
a decision about where to put my capital, I go, well,
hang on. New Zealand's got a three year political cycle
the main opposition has said, hey, as soon as it
got back and it would reverse this. I think it's
going to make it really difficult. But you know, for me,
this underscores the damage that the labor government has done

(02:22):
to our economy and it will reverb for probably decades
to come.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean it seems at the moment, Ali, I think
Trisha's bang on, and it seems that the only solution
that Shane Jones has landed on here is to offer
these guys really really really long contracts. Is that enough?

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
But I did hear him this morning on ZB two
and he was talking about you know, I think Mike
said to him, why aren't you doing this more quickly?

Speaker 5 (02:45):
And I think Shane Jones is right.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
You've got to give the world enough time to get
not get used to, but for them for the government
to start to woo them back. And that's probably part
of it, is the length of the contracts.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
I mean, one thing I.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Want to say though, is I do hope there's going
to be a bit of a conversation about the environment.
You know, I'm not talking about that one toad or
that one skink, but we've got an area off our
Canterbury coast. That is a place where there's been exploration,
offshore exploration just off our coast here. And unless there
are really robust and well resourced emergency plans for spills

(03:20):
or accidents, I'm really quite uncomfortable with the proposal.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
And is anyone thinking about that? Is anyone talking about.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Do like, is there anything that we do other than
think about the environment all the time?

Speaker 5 (03:31):
Ali?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, how many boats have we got?

Speaker 4 (03:33):
I remember talking about this when I was on the
christ Church City Council a number of years ago, and
it was one of those ridiculous situations that there was
one boat I think in the entire country that could
fix or turn up at a spill if there was
a problem.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
So, you know, I'd like to have that conversation.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
So upset my timer was going through that is such
that is that your ring tone?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, it's a timer for something. I was going to say,
If that's your ring tone, it would like I would
panic every time.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
And I don't even know I had set but just
to do not even remember what it was for.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
No, I know that's points.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
It's terrible, but just to cover off these points, and
it's sort of Germaine after the protests over the weekend.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
It is not a.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Binary choice in New Zealand between progress and investment and
the environment. That's point one point two. The major damage
that happened with labours, oil and gas band don't forget this.
They sprung that on everyone and thought that was smart.
They didn't tell the the industry what was happening, and
it was one they popped up one day and said

(04:34):
you're out of here, and that was There was no
consultation whatsoever. So I think that also is a big
part of why there will be a lack of trust.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
How long trust do you reckon before we convince the
world that that government and its incompetence was an aberration.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, I think this government's trying to do that as
quickly as possible. But again it comes back to these
kinds of investments are done on a sort of a
thirty forty fifty year horizon to get the return back
from them. They need that certainty and what they won't
be trusted that it's hard for them to trust. We've
got a short electoral cycle and we've also got a

(05:13):
labor opposition who appear to be moving threatening to do
the same. Well not only threatening, to do the same,
but they're getting more cooplate but going more in my view,
more sort of anti business and anti investment. So that's
going to make it difficult.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
And there's just one thing there though. Look, I agree
with you.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
I'm all for a reasonable balance between protection of the
environment and business right from the resources sector.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
That's absolutely a given.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
But I do not think this has just got to
be a conversation about the resources and the business and
the money. We do have to think about the environment,
and it's got to be a balance here. Where's the
conversation about making sure that our environment is going to
be protected?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
All Right, we'll take a break and Tricia's just going
to take a moment to try to remember what that
time always for. Right, we're back with huddle, Trishus and
Allie Jones. We've worked out, so Tricia Ovens not on.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Well, not to my knowledge, because I can't really work out.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Started running a bath and walked away from it.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Now.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
The only thing I can think is perhaps Siri during
the day has listened to me saying something and thought, oh,
I'll just pop a timer.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I'm like, oh, I have to be with Heather on
the radio.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
I thought you were buzzing me off.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
I thought I was being voted off, but I talked
too long and there was a buzzer going.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Actually, that's not about idea all introduce that to the show. Listen,
Ali on really really serious and very sad subject. How
are you feeling about the news that another baby has died,
this time a ten month old boy in Tikawitty.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yeah, well, look, it's always it's always sad and tragic,
and I don't want that to sound flippant.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
It's just revolting and awful.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Well, you don't know what happened, and I don't want
to talk about this case or allude to anything that
may have happened. In fact, we shouldn't anyway, because it's
now being investigated. But I don't think we should ever
get used to any news of a baby or a
toddler or a child dying. We do hear about it
far too often in this country, and I think we
may have become a little desensitized to it because of

(07:04):
television and social media and so forth. But yeah, I mean,
just absolutely tragic when a young child's life is taken
too soon.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
And look, as I said, we don't know what happened.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
I would rather just wait and hear what the Let's
hope the police can actually do something with this case too,
because that's the other thing.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
Is it going to be vexed again? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Do you think, Trish, that we are getting used to it.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Here's a number for you. This in my account will
be child baby fifty eight in eight years.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
So that is a really disgraceful number for New Zealand.
And it also makes you realize why we probably have
got desensitized to it, which is a terrible thing. Funny
this morning, I was pulling into the garage at work
and I heard this headline come on and you've just

(07:59):
feel that sick in the stomach. You know, you just
think all those every little kid in New Zealand. You
want to think that at night they're warm and dry
and they're being tucked in at bed in bedtime and.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Not scared, not scared and read a story this is.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's a real shame and it's a terrible shame for
a small town like Tequity, this would be really felt
in that community.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, I hope, so, I hope we all feel it
and demand some answers out of it. Alie on politics,
Tim Costley the Wyke and imp has been has been
outed for driving to Wellington, staying in a flat in
Wellington he owns, and then claiming the tax payer money
back on that. What's he doing wrong?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
He's not doing anything wrong if you look at what
the rules allow. I just get the impression that they're
in New Zealanders and members of the media who would
only be happy if elected members and I mean both
local and central government here got paid minimum wage and
we just wore sackcloth and ashes to work. You know,
it's let's just and stuck us in the village green

(08:58):
On through tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I noticed your you're saying us you're part of the collective,
aren't you?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:02):
I am, and it is.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
We're constantly being accused of earning too much or whatever.
And it's a bloody difficult job and it takes long hours.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
And I don't think it's reasonable.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
For someone or for people to expect someone like this
to commute these distances late at night and starting early
in the morning.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
For God's sake, let's been reasonable.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
What do you think, Trisha?

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I think it's fair that he's doing this. I wouldn't
be driving late at night sixty k's and I know
everyone goes, oh, it's only thirty minutes. Well, you know,
you just don't know at that time of.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Night, it's not thirty minutes. No, it's much longer. I
like forty five.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I totally, I totally agree. You know, when Rodney Hyde
came into Parliament with Act this is way back in
nineteen ninety six, he did the big perk busting campaign, right,
and a lot of this stuff was cleaned up around MPs.
And I think that is a is a very good thing. Yeah,
but I pick up on Allie's point to go, we
need to make sure we're focusing on the right things

(09:59):
and not just these go moments around politics, because my goodness,
there's some big stuff on the radar that we should
all be focused on and worried about and talking about.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
To write. Hey, very quick question for you, Alie. If
somebody calls you out of the blue and they've not
arranged to call you, how do you feel about it?
Do you get cross? Yes?

Speaker 5 (10:16):
I do? I do.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I need to know why.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Someone's calling me. I mean it depends who it is.
I mean, there will you.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Know if one of my kids calls me at an
old time and they haven't said they're going to ring
or you know, I think they're at work. Yes, I
will worry about that, but actually too, if I'm in
the middle of doing something really focused and then someone
rings me and I'm not expecting the call, it's like.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
What the hell are you doing?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I'm busy.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
So yes, it does make me a bit annoyed.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yepsh doesn't worry me. I don't ever answer a number
that I don't know. I'd always let that go through
the voicemail. But from a work perspective, I know that
if somebody is ringing me, it's genuinely generally because they
need something pretty quickly. And as a mum, if I
see the kids' names come up, well, you know, sometimes.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's the core.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
You'll you'll manage the call depending on what no, I'm
kidding no, or my husband you know again, might triage those,
But normally I find it quite useful if people want
to call and you know, cut cut to start pretty greatly.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
All right, all right, thank you guys, I appreciate it.
Tris Shurson Shurson, Willis pr, Allie Jones read.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
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