Full Show Podcast: 11 June 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather
duplesic Eland Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected
news talk, said b.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, good afternoon, welcome to the show. Coming up today,
the cops say there are some problems with the story
that the data that it did tickuity Baby is telling.
So we're going to speak to the lead detective. After five,
the Commerce Commissions just hold off the petrol companies for
how they charge us. The AA on that, and the
Air Force reckons that they've busted the North Korean's breaching sanctions.
Will get the details. After six.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Heather Duplessy l well, here's.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
A little bit of good news for farmers on the
eve of field days. They're not going to have to
pay for their emissions. How good is that? The government's
just announced it's taking agriculture back out of the ets,
which is where it's always been until the last gave
labor government put it into the ets. Where it's supposed
to have been was obviously outside of it, and that's
where it should always be because the idea of putting

(00:55):
a climate tax on farmers who provide the food that
we need to survive is just crazy. It is so
crazy an idea that, as far as I can tell,
no other country in the world does it.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Labour's threat to farmers, if you recall, was that unless
that was basically that they were in the etes unless
they could find another way to pay for their emissions.
So there's likely going to be an expectation that farmers
will still have to find that other way, and frankly,
I hope they don't have to. I hope that we
just give up on the stupid idea, because making farmers
pay to grow the food that we need is absolutely nuts.

(01:27):
I'm not having an argument about whether climate change is
real or not, because of course it's real, and I'm
also not having an argument about whether we should make
an effort to reduce emissions if we can. Of course
we should, and it should always be within reason. But
I am prepared to argue black and blue about how
far you take that idea. I think that idea was
taken too far when the Labor Party put farmers in
the ets. It went too far because the natural end

(01:50):
point of making farmers pay for their climate emissions is
that it's another cost to farming, which means our farmers
would then farm fewer animals, and that's not up for
debate the documents. That's what was going to happen. Farmers
were going to farm fewer animals. Therefore they would produce
less meat and milk for us. Therefore we would be
we'd have fewer humans being fed. Therefore our country would

(02:11):
be poorer because we would be selling less to the world.
And the endpoint, when you get to that endpoint, that's crazy.
You shouldn't be doing that. For a moment that we
got absolutely carried away with the conviction that the climate
change was the most important thing that we were dealing with.
Let's just get this straight. Climate change is important, it
is not the most important thing that we are dealing with.

(02:34):
It does not trump absolutely everything else that we are doing.
I would argue feeding your kids is more important than
dealing with climate change. I would argue that having the
money in the country to educate our kids is more
important than dealing with climate change. I'd also argue being
able to head up your home in winter so you
don't get sick is more important than dealing with climate change.

(02:55):
Absolutely deal with climate change as well, but these things
come first. So thank goodness for this now, because This
is absolutely correcting our.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Priorities together do for Sea Allen.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Nine two nine two is the text number. You're welcome
to get involved. We'll talk to the farmers about it
later in the program. Obviously, now the coppers have stepped
up their efforts to find the missing Mater Corper dad
Tom Phillips and his kids by offering a reward of
eighty thousand dollars for information. Tom and his children, Jada,
Maverick and Ember have now been missing for two and
a half years. The police are also willing to consider

(03:24):
immunity from prosecution if anyone who has been helping Tom
does come forward. Andy Saunders is a police acting detective Inspector. Hey, Andy, hello,
and did you reckon that there are people who know
where he is and aren't saying.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yes, I do. That's one of the reasons we've put
this reward up for a limited period of time to
encourage those people to come forward.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
What makes you so sure of that.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
On the investigation in the last two and a half years,
the information we've collected and the fact of a person
on their own with three children aged between eight and ten,
they need some assistance, assistance for what everything? Healthcare food,
general well being.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
What's the limited time you've got this up for.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
It's up for a two week Period's targeted directly those
people that have knowledge their whereabouts.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Do you reckon I mean, is this going to flip
somebody who just sort of knows roughly but isn't involved.
Do you reckon it would actually flip someone who is
actively helping.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Well, it's a considerable amount and if those people that
do have to acknowledge in a situation where they need
that sort of money, that they may well come forward.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Why are you doing it now?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Well, over the last two and a half years, we've
put a number of appeals out for information. Those appeals
that we have focused on the community, on people potentially
helping Tom, and on people that may have knowledge of
the whereabouts for the children. We haven't achieved the result
we've been hoping for it, and we feel now is
the time to offer an incentive to those people.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Would you have thought at the start of this, would
you have thought that you'd have had this wrapped up
by now?

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Well, it's always our hope, but as you'd appreciate, the
environment out there is very challenging place on the ground
and conduct searches.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, because there has been I mean, there has been
a little bit of criticism, kind of low level, but
it's been there that police aren't doing enough and that
basically what you do you need to do is just
go in hard and fill the place. Is that not
a possibility.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Well, one of the difficulties is that we believe Tom
Phillips to be armed and the risk of the community
and our staff, so we can't just flood the area
with massive amounts of place or search and rescue operatives.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Hey, we learned for the first time today that he
lost custody of his kids. When did he lose custody?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
That was going through the family court. I can find
out dates. But effectively the family court has changed the
custody status of the children.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Is that what sparked him going on the run.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
No, we don't believe so. At the time he went
on the run, he actually had custody of the children.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Oh okay, So he's lost custody as a result of this.
Has he.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Well that's a matter for the family court. But effectively
there's been here and the custody of the children has
now changed to I rung A Tomareki alrighty.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, listen, what is it going to take for somebody
to get immunity.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Well, the immunity is effectively if people are worried they
may have been committing offenses by assistant Tom, we encourage
him to come forward because our focus is not any
offending they may have done. It's on the safe return
of the children.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Andy, thank you for your time. I really appreciate it.
Best of luck with us as Andy Saunders Police Act
Detective Inspector Um ossie Ozzi's gone really weird lately on
the statues. I don't know if you've noticed this, but
a whole bunch of like colonial era statues have been
vandalized lately, and one was vandalized over the weekend. It
was the King statue in Melbourne of King George the Fifth,

(07:16):
and the relevance of the date is relevant that it
was done over the weekend because it was a long
weekend over in Melbourne. It was King's birthday weekend, so
it was like a little present for Charles for his birthday.
The vandals posted a video of them chopping off his head.
This is King George the Fifth's head with a power tool,
then spraying in red paint. The words the colony will fall,
which is apparently a message has been daubed on a

(07:37):
whole bunch of other colonial era statues that have been
vandalized in recent months. And then they set the video
to the song by the Sex Pistols, God Save the Queen,
which is quite weird. What I find weird about it
is that the Aussies have gone way down this path
and we haven't really gone way down this path and
long way that last quarter past.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duper c
Allen Drive with One New Zealand have Leap for Business.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Usk Darcy water Grave Sports Talk Coasters with me right now,
Hey Dars, Hello, Shawn Johnson's available?

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Is he It looks like it. We'll find out when
the team comes out officially. But that's the rumor around
is that today, Yeah, it's today, It's it's team list Tuesdays.
They say lest you'd say team naming Tuesday, because they
named the team and then the pliers that to turn
up on Saturday were nothing like because they don't know
who's really available, what happens during training. So it's a
list pick.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
From is it Seawan Johnson or to Mighty Martin, to
Mighty Martin, Mighty Martin, it is between them.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah. I think what would probably happen is that Seawan
Johnson will come back into the seventh position and I'll
push Tomty Martin out to the sixth position and that
will be it. This is interesting. This is a discussion
we're going to have tonight around fame or form. So
the guy who's got the history and the star power
has done all the money before, do you go straight

(08:55):
back to him or do you look at a guy
to Marty Martin who is basically picked this team up
from our They've been beating all these teams they should
have no right to beat. Go, Well, you're actually the
form half at the moment, Sean, maybe just sit over
there for a wee bit so we'll have this discussion,
Sony fun Winner X back row. I seen from the
like for the Warriors in their heyday, way back when

(09:16):
under Daniel Anderson and joins us have we chat about
which way they should go and mind and we'll ask
the people out there which way you go and why.
I want to see the response to Sean Johnson if
he'll come back and go I saw what happened. That
was great. I'm now going to contribute.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
But he really needs to prove himself well.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I think it's also up against the Melbourne Storms, So
if they get blown off the park is at his fault,
I'd say probably not.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I mean it's ultimately we're not going to judge it
based on the score line performance.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yea, what did you actually do? How did you provide?
But I'd say with the attitude within this side and
what they've gone through and what you hear from all
of them is that we want all of our teammates
to do well, We're all going to buy into this.
We're all having a crack to mighty, You've done great.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
How can I help?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
It's about team, so we will see what their team.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Because it's just a load of nonsense coming out of
your mouth right now. It's not about team. It's about
earning your spot. This is a head to head competition
between two blokes.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
It is. But if you've got a competition between two
guys with respect, not nasty, and is she going to
drive the best out of everybody? It's like in my role, Okay,
I'm not a sportsman. I haven't been doing it. Like,
I'm not a sportsman, but what I do is that
I've got lots of young guys coming through the industry.
It's some very talented men out there, very very talented guys.

(10:33):
And instead of me freaking out and trying to hide
and put them into corner and not forgive them any advice,
I want to give them all the advice I can
because they get better.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
But if they get better, I get better.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Drives stamps. I don't want them to take so much
means I have to be better those they will, so
it drives me up.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I really liked your piece on ADHD in the Herald today.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
You would never have guessed, would you.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
No, that was obvious to all of us, but I
found it fascinating. So you have no appetit because the
pills that put you on kills the appetite.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I never had an appetite previously, and this has made
it even worse or better, depending on which way you look.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
You just eat because you have to. Yes, I don't
salads that you spend hours crafting.

Speaker 7 (11:13):
Every day.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
It's been hours crafting. I chuck it on a bowl
and chomp it.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
You don't even enjoy that necessarily, it's.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Okay, it tastes fine. You know it's it's got, it's
got vegetables, it's got.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
So I read that and I got a package in
the mail to the book Julie. Julie sent me a
book so I can self diagnose my own ADHD.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
There you go, A Woman's Guide to a woman, A
woman none, a woman's not.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Womand you can borrow it after me.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I've got help. I use them. But the thing around
here is that it's actually really positive. I've caught it,
my lovely adhd. It's wonderful. Like we're all on various spectrums, right,
everyone's very different. All got this things we're juggling and
dealing with. You gotta find out what it is, how you.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Deal with you take on something.

Speaker 8 (11:57):
There.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I got a little irritated by Tory Faro, the Wellington mayor,
coming out and revealing that she's got it in a
way almost to excuse how crap she is at being
a mayor. Does that irritate you?

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I understand everyone's going on their different journeys, they're different pars,
they've got different reasons. But for me, the article in
the Herald, I chose to make it very positive. And
very uplifting. This is not a crutch. This is not
going to go oh poor me, I've got this is like,
this is me and this is great? How do I
make it better? And that's the attitude I think you've
got to have for everything you're involved. And even when

(12:29):
you're lying in the gutter, you can still look at
the stars.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Right, Oh my lord, here we go, Here we go here,
end of the lesson. Hey, thank you, Darcy, appreciate it.
Darcy Watergrave Sportstalok host back at seven this evening, four
twenty two.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
The name you trust to get the answers you need
Heather Dup to see allan drive with one New Zealand.
Let's get connected and news talk as they'd be.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh lord, here they come. All the texts here that
I'm fifty three, six months since ADHD diagnosis on rittle
and have lost four kg's in the last six weeks.
How good could go the whole day without eating? That's
probably not good. Com binding this with my type two
diabetes glucose inhibited drugs which make you pee out in
excess sugar. I'm down to eighty four cag's from sitting
around on average at one hundred cages. Haven't been this
light since high school. I'm loving it. I've got abs Paul,

(13:13):
how to go from I got diagnosed with ADHD two.
I am fit. I like that mate, Good on you.
Twenty five past four now to serious matters. Spoke about
this yesterday. The ten month old boy in Tekowiti who
is now dead. The father has spoken out. He's spoken
to media saying he didn't do anything wrong. Now I'm
going to give you all the details, right so you
know what we're talking about. The man's name, he's twenty two,

(13:35):
just a kid. His name is maximil Ali. The boy's
name is miss Staffa Ali. The dad says, this is
mximil Ali says he recently came back to Tekuwiti from Fiji.
He says when he got back, the boy was a
little bit sick, appeared to be a little dizzy, so
he and his wife took the boy to hospital. They
were told he was okay. They were given an antibiotic prescription.
Then on Saturday, the mother, the wife went to a

(13:57):
birthday party and she left the baby with him and
he was the old person at home with his baby.
He says, the baby woke up, gave the baby a
bottle of milk. Baby didn't drink that much, kept closing
his eyes, he said. The baby also refused to eat
much breakfast, so he left him sitting in a ball
pit watching TV, still looking a little dizzy, and Sad
went to the laundry, cleaned up the house, ate some breakfast,
washed the dishes, came back. It's a long time to

(14:18):
leave you baby unattended. I just want to say anyway,
baby ten months old. Baby was sitting but his head
was dropping. He was still looking quite sleepy. So he
made him another bottle of milk, try to feed him. Maybe.
He drank almost half a bottle of milk, then he
vomited all of it out. Suddenly, he took the baby's
clothes off because it was covered in vomit. He said,
this is him saying he was not good. His eyes
became very big, and he was like choking up or something.

(14:40):
He wouldn't breathe. I got shocked, I got nervous. I
was scared. I don't know what to do because I
was alone home by myself, and that's my first time
having an encounter that. Nothing came up in my mind.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
My mind was all.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Empty, he said, then he started tapping on his son's
back and the son's bum, but said he was only
tapping a little to wake him up. He tried to
give him CPR, it didn't work. He picked him up
to run him to the hospital, but at that very minute,
the wife arrived home, so he gave the baby to
her and they took the boy to the hospital. He
was asked if the toddler had previously suffered any serious injuries,

(15:11):
and he said now, once when the pair fell down
the stairs together after he tripped. The boy was then
three months old, suffered fractures to his collar bone and ribs,
as well as bleeding on the head and the neck.
After the incidents, ordong A Tamiitiki became involved and the
boy was put into his grandparents care for about three months. Now,
the dads worried that police are going to charge him
over the death. Police have just hailed a press conference

(15:32):
just a couple of hours ago. They maintained that they
believe the injuries were non accidental and were violent and
blunt face trauma, and they also say the father's statements
are inconsistent. They are going to be with us after
five o'clocks and we'll get all the details from him.
Stay tuned for that.

Speaker 9 (15:49):
Here.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
The why is the Herald screaming about the polls when
it's not anywhere near election time makes me sick. That's
from Karen. Well, Karen, let me answer that question for you,
because I'm fascinated by it. I mean, it's a long
time to the election. But it's because this government is
doing so badly in the polls. It's weird, like, how
are they doing this badly? How is Chris Luxeon still
so unpopular? If you haven't seen the pole or run

(16:10):
you through it shortly, headline's.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
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Speaker 8 (16:22):
Your drive home.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Hither dup to see Alan drive with one New Zealand.
Let's get connected and news talk as they'd be.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
You now, you be proud the new Thai funeral.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Whether when you were talking about the ets, you missed
a key point. If the ETS reduced meat and milk
production in New Zealand, the shortfall would be made up
by much less environmentally friendly practices in other countries. This
is a point worth making. That's right because our farmers
are so efficient when they farm the climate emissions from
one cow. Let's say, just just to use one particular animal,

(17:00):
the climate emissions from one cow is much less than,
for example, if that cow was living in Brazil right
and being farmed over there. And so when the government,
the labor government did the analysis of what would happen
if we started charging our farmers, they actually found that
there would be a significant amount of what we call leakage.
And leakage is basically when we kill the cows here
so that we don't emit as much, Brazil will pick

(17:22):
up let's you say, Brazil, Argentina, whoever, whatever will pick
up the slack, and they will do it less efficiently
than us, therefore making the climate warmer, right, emitting more
that's called leakage. So we would like labor was doing
this knowing it was going to hurt the climate. How
crazy is that doesn't surprise you though, does it. We're
going to talk to Simon Wat's the climate minister. Ten
plus five the pole Here we go. Neither labor nor

(17:45):
national really, this is the key theme is neither labor
nor national inspire that much support in people. At the moment,
the taxpayers Union Curier Pole has National on thirty five
point four percent, down one point nine points. That's quite
low for a coalition leader in the first term. Labors
on twenty nine point four that's down zero point six

(18:06):
Acts up slightly zero point three points to nine point seven.
New Zealand First is up zero point one points to
five point six. Maori Party is up zero point nine
points to four percent, and the Greens are the biggest
gainer of the poll, up two point five points to
twelve point seven. Also, as probably the more telling thing,
as the Prime minist is not particularly popular, so Chris
Luckxon's net favorability is down to negative point five percent.

(18:29):
That now puts them behind Chris Hopkins. He's up this
month to plus three percent. And of all of the
people in the coalition, as in all of the ministers
in the coalition, Nicola Willis, the Finance Minister, is the
most liked still with a negative rating negative three percent.
I will talk to Barry Soaper about it. He'll be
with us in just about ten minutes time, twenty two
away from five.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
It's the world wires on news talks.

Speaker 8 (18:50):
He'd be drive.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
The UN Security Council has voted through a resolution calling
for an immediate seaspire in Gaza. The resolution calls for
a prisoner swap, a full Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, and
a multi year reconstruction plan. US Secretary of St Anthony B.
Lincoln says Israel has accepted the deal. It's up to Hamas.

Speaker 10 (19:07):
Now, does Hamas want to end this conflict and this
war that it started or not.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
We'll find out.

Speaker 10 (19:15):
But it's clear that virtually the entire world has come
together in support of the proposal, and the only open
question is will Hamasi yes.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
A plane carrying Malawi's vice president has gone missing. The
plane was flying to the country's north but was ordered
to turn around by air traffic control because of bad weather,
and then communication was lost pretty soon Thereafterwards, the Malawian
president says the military is searching for the missing aircraft.

Speaker 11 (19:38):
MDF soldiers are still on the ground carrying out the
search and I have given strict orders that the operation
should continue until their plane is found.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
And finally, an Austrian Airlines pilot has successfully landed a
plane after flying through a pretty bad a hail storm.
The weird thing is the storm didn't show up on
the radar, but when they hit it, it was so
bad it actually shattered the plane's windscreen and destroyed the
nose cone, to the relief of all one hundred and
eighty people on board. The pilot then managed to safely

(20:13):
land the damage plane in Vienna, and he's now being
called a hero.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
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Speaker 2 (20:22):
Murray Old Zossie correspondents with US Now, how mass good afternoon, Heather.
So the twenty thirty emissions target keeps on rolling on?

Speaker 12 (20:29):
Oh boy boy, the climate wars are on again. The
opposition wants to pick a fight on climate. The twentye
talk over here about an early election round. One of
the fight was let's go nuclear. Well, Australian scientists the
top organization over here, the CSIRO said you're keetting too expensive,
too far away. Now, Peter Dutton says a coalition government

(20:50):
will walk away from the twenty thirty Paris Agreement. That's
the target to cut emissions by forty three percent by
the end of this decade over two thousand and five level,
thanks to having eighty two percent of the energy that
Australia needs supplied by renewables. Now the opposition says that's unattainable.
Experts say it's going to be a big ask. The

(21:12):
government says, listen, trust as we're going. Well now, both sides.
Apparently you have underestimated the challenge of getting enough renewables
into the system, certainly the National Transmission Network for example GI.
It's going to be expensive to upgrade that. But few
are saying over if anybody outside the coalition, yes, let's

(21:32):
blow up Paris and have Australia joint Iran, Libya and
Yemen as the world's only countries not to ratify that agreement.

Speaker 8 (21:40):
Laba says, bring it on.

Speaker 12 (21:41):
Will fight you on this at the next election.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Buzz do we believe the Victorian landlords who are threatening
to sell up?

Speaker 13 (21:47):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (21:47):
Didams?

Speaker 12 (21:48):
I mean this is also energy related. It's an interesting
story this because the Victorian government wants to be completely
zero emissions emissions, you know, by twenty forty seven, so
it's only twenty years away, well just over twenty years away. Now.
The Victorian government's come up with an idea proposed changes

(22:08):
to laws around energy efficiency in rental properties. The Victorian
government basically wants net zero missions, I said in twenty
years so okay, landlords.

Speaker 8 (22:18):
We're going to bring in.

Speaker 12 (22:18):
New standards, minimum standards. For example, Heather, every rental property
would have to have sealing insulation, but have to be
twenty first century shower heads, new electric hot water systems,
new cooling systems and heating systems as well. Now landlords
are furious, are angry about the cost. They say, hang on,
the tenants might save on their energy bills. But I'll

(22:39):
tell you who's going to be putting the rent up.
We are because we can't afford it. Just another blow
for landlords, is there? Many are saying we it's going
to sell up and get out and can't see that
happening really, And appliances won't have to be updated until
their current life is over.

Speaker 8 (22:53):
But some landlords are out.

Speaker 12 (22:54):
There on forum saying the sky is going to fall
in and here has won. He said, oh soon, tens Ago.
They have better homes than us, and we're the owners
of the investment property. Please mars.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I see everybody at bonds has got the sack, haven't
they They have?

Speaker 12 (23:09):
And I knew we were talking about this today and
I went looking at the etymology of BONDSA. It's an
Australian slang expression from the start of the twentieth century
for something that was excellent, pleasing, very good. Sadly none
of these apply any more to Australia's most recent airline,
bonds has crashed and burned. They called the administrators in
two months ago. They've been waiting on all the staff

(23:31):
have been waiting with no pay for the last two months,
hoping against hope the administrators would be able to sell
the airline.

Speaker 8 (23:38):
That's not happened.

Speaker 12 (23:39):
Now they've all been dismissed today. Yes, they're going to
get their entitlements, we understand, but no potential buyers. And
now the suggestion this afternoon that maybe just maybe the
airline was trading while insolvent, and that is a big
no no, as you know very much too.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Hey, thank you very much, Mars, really enjoyed talking to you.
That's Murray Old's Australia correspondent, Elon Musk Day for Elon
on Thursday, because his paypacket's going to go to a
vote finally on Thursday. This is the thing that's been
dragging on for ages. He wanted to get the fifty
million dollar I think it's fifty million dollar US paypacket
and that was struck down by the judge in Delaware
as being not really in the best interest to the

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shareholders and so on. Now it's going to go to
the shareholders for a vote. Not only are they asking
the shareholders to vote on whether he should be allowed
to get this money out of the business, but also
whether they should relocate Tesla away from Delaware. And a
sort of like hissy fit protest at this decision. Sixteen
away from five.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get payments.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Certainty Barry So for senior political correspondence with US. Now,
hey Barry, good afternoon. Have that do you make it?
The poll?

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Well, polls are all about timing, aren't they. And you
know this government has come in, it has introduced so
much in the first six months since it's been there,
but nothing really tangibly has happened yet in terms of cuts.
For example, they don't come in until the end of July. Yes,

(25:05):
it'll be interesting to see what happens when they come in.
And I heard Mike Hoskin talking this morning about ram
raids and I thought I'd go and have a look
at them and the figures for those who have just
come out, they are down, as you said, more than
eighty percent for the month of April. Twelve ram raids
in April, there shouldn't be any of course, that's compared

(25:29):
though to sixty four in April last year. The police
starter shows that the downward trend has continued since the
peak in August twenty twenty two when there were eighty
six ram raids. So you know, it takes time for
all this to feed through to business and to the

(25:51):
community because the community is affected by this dreadful behavior.
So I think it's just early days. Chris lux And
won't be happy. He doesn't seem to have sort of
captured the public imagination. But I think, you know, personally,
I mean I've watched what thirteen or fourteen Prime and
As has come through in my time, and you know,

(26:13):
he's I think when you see him out the public
is very engaging, more engaging than many products.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
But it's the problem is he flip flops on subjects, right,
But that's that's just changing his position and it's a newbie.
That's possibly true of rules, possible that the reason that
they're doing as poorly as they are in the polls
comparative for you know, where we are in the edfort
cycle is maybe a combination of the fact that they
are actually at pace doing things and also the electorate

(26:43):
is grumpy because the cost of living crisis sucks and
you blame the government, whoever the government is.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
That's right, and they are at such pace doing things
that the public haven't really caught.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Up with that yet.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
So it's it's it's kind of like it's making a
lot of people upset, right, and we don't like upset.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
People are probably less upset than they were this time
last year, but they are still upset. They had hoped
that a change your government would somehow present sort of
a miraculous I.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Was meaning that you're making people that this government is
making people upset, like the people who are protesting against
the oil and gas returning, people who are upset about
Maori related changes.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
That kind of wing.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
It makes people feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
Yes, all right, give it time. This is what I'd say.
And if I was in government, I don't think I'd
be too worried.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
What has Michael Wood said? Oh well, this is why
I was looking about Michael Wood, like when this is
the period of reprieve where he's not in parliament, because
he's probably going to be back, and he was there
before and this is the down period where you're not
supposed to bring him up.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
Well, like you rather excitedly said yesterday on here that
the ritual list, I mean it should be celebrated. And
I only agree that for the first time in more
than twenty years, Graham heart at worth a piddling twelve
billion dollars was knocked off. The Mowbray family with around
twenty billion. Now your old mate, the former best transport

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minister in the history of the world, Michael Wood, who's
now gone to the trade unions. Of course he reckons
the country's out of bow on to most working and
the menial jobs should be recognized as well.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
Our society can't function without their work. So it's kind
of about recognizing that everyone contributes. Yes, these people on
the richness, but a lot of other New Zealanders as well,
and a lot of people have been doing it tough recently.
But there is an interesting little point in here as well. Yes,
some of those people do voluntarily contribute back a lot,
but for people who are very wealthy in New Zealand,
they actually pay less than a percentage of the income

(28:41):
and tax than the person who's serving you at the
petrol station or the supermarket, or you and I. The
income that they earn, which is vast in this case,
and as we just heard, their wealth increased by twenty
three billion dollars over the last year. They're paying a
lower percentage rate generally than the average working person in
New Zealand.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
Well you imagine that lower percentage rate on the money.
That's I'm just grateful for what be massive.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Absolutely, Hey, I've got a lot of texts today coming
in like this, Heather, it's about time you raped up
the Green Party. Read Darlene's investigation from Steve.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
Where still being held? I looked at that yesterday. I
was having a look at that. We don't know where
it isn't still being investigate?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, okay, really quickly, what I've.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
Gone up in the opinion poll? Well, I mean, God
only knows why.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
To be fair, would it not be fair to say this?
This is because the Green Party's approach to their their
badly behaved MPs is consistent with their approach to anybody
who behaves badly. I mean, this is a party where
key members believe we need to get rid of prisons,
right so they're not really tough on anyone, so they
can hardly be tough on their own MPs, can they?

Speaker 6 (29:49):
Well they should be, I think, Well.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
But that's that's what you think. But does their supporters
love this kind of stuff? Chances and stuff like that,
but the.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
Building on that support, So who's giving the additionals what.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I'm saying to you that internally consistent?

Speaker 8 (30:03):
Right?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Berry will leave quick talking about drum quickly? What did
he say? Quick?

Speaker 6 (30:06):
O Trump? Look, I'll tell you what. He started off
an email this morning and they've been talking to the
United States how he's sending out a lot of emails
at the moment looking for contributions. I got this email
the first three words and it was I love you.
I kid you not. Yes, it's true, he said, So
I saved my mega hat just for you. He said,

(30:28):
My coveted hat is a bold declaration that you stand
with Trump. So if you love me like I love you,
I need you to order right now. I went in
and had a look at what would take it to
order money. Yes, well I didn't say I didn't. I
didn't open the email that widely because I thought I

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might have been trapped into doing.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Because their degrees of wideness with your email, your mega.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
Hats around here. It was maker do and go away.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
With thanks very very so for senior political correspond and
seven away from five.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 14 (31:05):
I'm minister the deceive married party investigation, who runs it?
And when are we getting those details.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
That'll be confirmed this week?

Speaker 6 (31:10):
Just taking a step back, what we're trying to do
is make sure there's trust and confidence in the public
institutions and in.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
The agencies in particular.

Speaker 15 (31:16):
I don't want them essentially marking their own homework and
managing po central conflicts just because the allegations are pretty serious.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
And is that part of.

Speaker 14 (31:22):
The serious part or is it the serious part the
Maiori party who allegedly took information they weren't entitled to
and used it in a way that's against the law.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
Yeah, well, that's why these allegations are incredibly serious, and
that's why they need to be properly investigated and the
police and the Privacy Commissioner have those powers to do
that part of it.

Speaker 14 (31:39):
Back tomorrow at six am the mic Hosking Breakfast with
Jaguar Newstalk z B.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Hither, your excuses for the government not being popular are ridiculous. Yes,
they've rolled out a lot of stuff, all harmful, destructive
and hated. It's only going to get worse. They should
call an election and get lost. Tax cuts because the
alternative is also made. Can't wait for that government, Labor
and the Greens and the Mardi Party. Tax cuts are
stupidly low. My I'm stoked with mine. No one's going

(32:06):
to be happy when they eventually, I'm going to be stoked.
I'm getting eighty bucks. Didn't you know? Because I've got
a baby. That's what you want to do, get yourself
a baby. Hey, producer Andy, did you look at your
tax cuts? You'll get heaps because you've got two babies. Yeah,
Producer Andy's got heaps of tax cut because he's got
two babies. I've told you this, babies work for you financially.
I mean, look to be honest, old mate. Is more
of an expense to me than eighty bucks a fortnight.

(32:29):
But whatever, I'm happy about that. Hither. What you and
numerous other commentators seemed to be unaware of, I presume
is that Elon Musk's proposed remuneration came about because he
asked Tesla's shaholders to grant it based on whether the
company hit incredibly steep share value, revenue and profitability targets.
If he didn't hit them, he'd be paid nothing. The
likelihood of the company breaking all three was deemed incredibly low,
but under his stewardship, the company hit them. It was

(32:51):
a contract. Shareholders have done better than they believe. They
might call it a hissy fit if you like, but
he's got every right to believe or to feel that
Delaware Judge activist, Delaware Judge had no business overturning orders rightfully.
His cheers, Nick, Thank you Nick. Petrol companies have copped
a taling off from the ComCom for putting up their
price is really fast when the oil price goes up,
but then dropping them really slowly when it comes back
down again. Sometimes they even dawdle for two weeks. This

(33:13):
has been called in the industry rockets and feathers, because
the price rockets up and then it fathers down. The
delay is apparently costing US fifteen million bucks a year
at the pump. We're going to talk to the AA
about that. In twenty minutes time. But the police officer
investigating the Tekawiti baby's death is with us straight after.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
The News, the only drive show you can trust to
ask the questions, get the answers, by the facts and
give the analysis. Heather due to Celum Drive with One

(33:50):
New Zealand, let's get connected and news talk as.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
They'd be to the case of the Tekowity baby homicide investigation.
The baby's father has spoken out that he was alone
at home with the baby at the time, but he
didn't kill the boy. He says, the baby, ten month
old m staffa Ali, choked and he tried to save him. Police, though,
believe the boy died of violent blunt force trauma and
that it wasn't an accident. Detective Inspector Graham pitt Keithley

(34:15):
is leading the case. High Graham, Hello, do you believe
the dad's story?

Speaker 16 (34:22):
I'm aware of a dad story as of reported before.
We believe he's some inconsistencies with the statements that we
we had and the inquiry teams weaken really hard to
corroborate some of that information and determine what those inconsistencies
are and basically based around the injuries that has been

(34:45):
suffered by Mustafa, So.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
What his version of how the boy that the injuries
the boy got does not match up with the injuries
that you guys are aware of.

Speaker 16 (34:55):
The injuries that Mustafa has and the explanations we're getting
from members of the family that we're speaking to inconsistent.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Okay, what kind of injuries does the boy have?

Speaker 16 (35:08):
I'm not going to comment on the actual injuries in
regards to its still somewhat complex matter and for the
pathologists to undertake his reporting for us in a specialist
but as obviously before, in regards to what we do know,
it is blunt falls trauma and it's not consistent with

(35:29):
an accident at this stage, and that's why we're investigating.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Why don't you think it was accidental.

Speaker 16 (35:37):
Due to the violent injuries that the Mustafa has suffered.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Well, are you saying it's just too much to be
an accident?

Speaker 16 (35:48):
Yeah, pretty much, that's what I'm saying. It just seems
to be inconsistent with what we would expect from an accident. Unfortunately,
children do have accidents, and we do have a lot
of reports it get investigated around non accidental and accidental injuries.
So with their experience in regards to working with our

(36:08):
experence to try and determine what is accidental and what
is non accidental face in this case very early on
in regards to our initial enquiries, it is inconsistent with
being an accident. The injuries city subject.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Were you already aware that there was an incident late
last year where the boy was hurt?

Speaker 16 (36:29):
Yet we were aware in regards to a notification Intober
and November last year around you must art for being injured, It's.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Correct, Yes, were you investigating that?

Speaker 16 (36:44):
Yes, yep, we are investigating and it will be reinvestigated
as part of this Somerson and quiry.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
But so Graham, you were you already investigating it and
you were still investigating at the time of the boy's death.

Speaker 16 (36:57):
The investigation ad was that the completion stage that from
October November last year. But it will be fully investigated
again as part of a homicide inquiry.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Okay. And can you say whether you had determined who
was like whether somebody was guilty for that.

Speaker 16 (37:13):
No, I'm not going to outline that at the moment.
As I said, I wanted to be fully reinvestigated ast
a somemicide inquiry.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
So ram should should that investigation. Given given the age
of the boy, should that investigation actually have happened faster.

Speaker 16 (37:27):
No, I'm satisfied at this initial stages that the start
that we're investigating has done the best that they can
and relation to that, like anything in these tragic situations,
we will go back and have a look to see
if there was anything else that could have been done.
And I can't give you a comment on that at

(37:48):
the moment because there's a set at store under investigation
at South and will be part of a wider homicide investigation.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Is that when Ornatamriki got involved.

Speaker 16 (37:57):
Oh look, I can't comment on anything from another an agency,
but with anythink under our child protection protocols, there are
joint investigation processes that we undertake with Ronnie Kameriki, so
we try and work together on our excedents and non

(38:18):
accidental injuries or accidental injuries in regards to people reporting
concern around children.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
And in this case, is everyone cooperating.

Speaker 16 (38:32):
Yes, everyone is speaking to the police. I just have
some concerns around the inconsistencies of some of the statements.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
At We're getting all right, Graham, listen, Thank you very
much for your time and best of like getting to
the bottom of this. It's Graham pitt Keithley, the detective
inspector leading the case.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Good news for farmers on the eve of field days.
They're not going to have to pay for their emissions.
The government has announced agriculture will not be included in
the emissions trading scheme and hair walker Echinoia will be scrapped. Finally,
Simon Watts is the of a Climate Change and joins us.

Speaker 17 (39:01):
Now, Hey, Simon, Hey, Heather, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, thanks for being with us. So you're taking them
out of the emissions trading scheme, but are you still
expecting them to find some sort of way to pay
through some sort of other mechanism for their emissions.

Speaker 17 (39:14):
Look, we're keeping our promise to farmers to take it
out of the ets, but we are going to be
working with a farming community around what are the viable
pathways for them to look to reduce emissions. And we're
still committed to buy twenty thirty to introduce some form
of emissions pricing, but is a long period between now
and then. But we want to work with the industry,
not against them, to make that a reality because this

(39:35):
is a really challenging area.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
You've scrapped here Walker Econoi, you've set up another working
group to replace it. What's the point of that working group?

Speaker 17 (39:43):
Look, the working group that we've established is going to
have individuals and entities across the sector. Minister maclay from
Agers is leading on that piece. But this is really
just a reset from us. The model that was set
up under the prior government was dead in the water.
It wasn't working.

Speaker 18 (40:00):
We're reframing that and.

Speaker 17 (40:01):
We've got a good relationship with the SECT now and
we're working progressively with them to do what we need
to do.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
What are you hoping to get from the four hundred
million dollars that you're putting into R and D well.

Speaker 17 (40:11):
Look, the key element for us is to get pathways
that we can reduce agricultural emissions. Who want that to
be industry and farmer lad because our farmers are some
of the most carbon efficient farmers in the world, already
bit at innovation, and you know, I'm confident in our
farmers that we can find a pathway to not only
reduce emissions but also maintain our production because we also

(40:32):
need to export to the world. We've got to find
the balance between those two things and protect not only
our economy but also the resilience in the livelihoods of
our farmers as well, and the previous model was putting
both of those things at threat.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah too, right, hey, Simon, thank you very much, good
call on the decision. Simon Watts, Minister of Climate.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Change Heather dook.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
To the AA shortly about what the what the fuel
companies are doing to us in the trouble edge just
got themselves and with the Commerce Commission, do you w
don't know how much crime five oh ones have done
in New Zealand just since they've been coming in. I
saw this today. I thought this was quite remarkable given
the discussion we had yesterday. The data, so since twenty fifteen,
when this sort of kicked off, the deportees who've come
here from Australia have committed twenty one thousand, four hundred

(41:14):
and four offenses in New Zealand, which is significant. I mean,
if you sort of just rounded out and said it's
around about ten years, we're talking about more than two
thousand defenses every single year. That's a lot, right. It's
broken down in a much greater detail for the last
fourteen months, so from March last year. The number of
offenses that were committed in that period is four thy

(41:34):
six hundred and forty four. Nine hundred and seventy of
them are violence offenses, more than fifty of them are
sexual offenses, more than six hundred and thirty four of
them are drug and anti social offenses, and more than
thirteen hundred of them are dishonesty offenses. We would one
hundred percent be better off if these people weren't coming here,
but there's not a lot we can do other than
try to fix it when they get here, if we

(41:56):
possibly can. Quarter past coming up, eighteen past five. The
Comunimiss has taken a crack at fuel companies for rushing
to put the price of petrol up, but then dawdling
when they bring it back down. ComCom reckons the fuel
companies are costing US motorists fifteen million bucks a year
by delaying the drops in the petrol prices. Terry Collins
is the AA Principal policy Advisor and joins me Now Hi, Terry, Afternoon, Heather.

(42:19):
So they call this thing rockets and feathers, where the
price rockets up but then feathers down. Is that what
you're seeing Yeah, well, I.

Speaker 7 (42:24):
Don't know if we've seen it or not. They've reported
on it where they can't explain why it's happening. What
I find interesting is that back when they did the
market survey in two nineteen, this condition, which is quite
common overseas, didn't exist. Now they have a new way
of modeling and they've found this rocket and feathers effect occurring. Well,
I find that interesting is because usually that occurs in

(42:47):
a market where there's not a lot of information around pricing.
But since the first survey, we've now got all our
grades of fuel or advertising outside the service station, We've
got these fuel laps, We've got it. So what should
have improved? The information consumers? Have seemed to have an
effect that it shouldn't have had, and I can't explain
it and they can't explain it.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Are the petrol companies actually obligated? I mean, what's going
on right is that the price of oil goes up,
so they put the price of petrol up. The price
of oil comes down, so they slowly put the price
of petrol. Now are they obligated to do it quickly?
Can you know they're a business? Can they do it
when they want?

Speaker 5 (43:20):
To yeah.

Speaker 7 (43:21):
Well, sometimes due to competition they take a bit of
a haircut no, and other times they've got to make
up for it. It's a long term game for them
over the year, with fluctuations within it. I sometimes explain
to people, Okay, that tank of fuel in the service
station there, that was board over a month ago. I've
got ship processed and done whatever, and now they've got
to sell it. Well, if the price goes down, I've

(43:42):
still got to They paid a high price for it,
so they've got to somehow get their money back. If
the price goes up, they go, oh, I can't brought
that the cheap posts, but my next tank's got to
be more expensive. So maybe I just try to get
as much as I can, knowing I've got to pay more.
I don't know how much of that exists within the market,
but I would really love an explanation on the comcoms
to what's causing the supplete.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
The Commics Commission says they've kind of warned the fuel
companies right. They say that they're going to be watching
when the Auckland Regional fuel tax comes out, which I
think is it this month or next month, I can't remember,
but anyway, end of this month, end of this month,
are the people company is going to care?

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 7 (44:17):
I mean this is a classic shot across the bail
by the Commis Commission. But I'll be talking to context
within the industry and they're very keen because of the
optics on it, not least by the media and by
the Commis Commission to ensure that the Auckland motorists get
their full eleven and a half cents discount or rebate
the decreasing price come one July. I know one of

(44:39):
the large major's got a big team work and on it,
trying to get it down by Mignal, it on Matt David.
It comes into effect across all these stations.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Now, that's what I want to hear. Terry, love my dollars,
Thank you very much, Terry Collins, AA Principal policy advisor. Here.
The read the deportees that's just a known offense is
obviously will be much higher, which is a fair point.
Craig Actually, and quite a few people are saying that
if you can count the number of crimes, that's that's
just what we've managed to put our finger on.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Now.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Consumer New Zealand is going pretty hard on the scam
the scam stuff with the banks and the fact that
the banks aren't doing enough to prevent scams. And I'm
with them on that. Really the big banks are not
doing enough. But I do think Consuman New Zealand have
gone a little bit far. Today they put out a petition.
They're calling on the government to step in and basically
to force the banks to reimburse pretty much all scam

(45:26):
victims unless the victim has been grossly negligent. I think
that's going too far because I think, I mean, how
much I want the I do want the bank to
put guardrails up so that you don't you know, you
don't make accidents and you kind of you know what's
up and you get a warning and stuff like that.
But dude, if you want to draw out several hundred
thousand dollars and give it to your Nigerian lover in

(45:46):
some sort of a weird thing that you're up to,
I mean, and you're determined and the taller says this
is a scam and you just determined to do it,
is that the teller's fault. I don't think it is.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Anywhere.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
We'll talk to consumer after half us five about that
five point twenty two.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, the due to see Ellen cutting through the noise
to get the facts. It's hither duper c Allen drive
with one New Zealand let's get connected and news talk
as they'd be five t four.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
So today we've got another MP, second in a row,
got another MP who's done absolutely nothing wrong, who is
apparently a bad boy for claiming the accommodation allowance that
MPs are entitled to. And we know he's a bad
boy because he's in the media for it. So the
bad boy today is Kiaran macnaughty and as a crime,
apparently is claiming the accommodation allowance while living in his

(46:29):
new wife's flat in Potoni. The bad boy yesterday, of course,
was Tim Costley, and his crime was claiming the accommodation
allowance for a flat in Wellington when his electorate is
only an hour's drive up the road. Neither of these
guys are doing anything wrong, right. They're both MP's based
out of Wellington. Kiaran's in the wider Upper Tim is
in Ortucky and both of them are entitled to the
allowance regardless of whether they live in their own flat

(46:51):
or their wife's flat. Or a landlord's flat. They can
get the money. However, even though neither of them are
doing anything wrong. This rule's got to change. And the
only reason, like I'm totally arguing this on perception, right,
the reason that this rule's got to change is because
it looks bad. Because it is a terrible look right.
I mean, most people in this country just move in
with their husband or wife when they get married. They

(47:13):
don't get married, move in and then go, hey, boss,
just if you could help pay off my new wife's mortgage,
that would be really great. Most of us just buy
a house to move in. If we relocate for a job,
we buy a house in the town that we're going into.
This what I did I move in. I didn't say
to my boss, you made me move to Auckland. Can
you help me pay for the mortgage please? I mean,
I get the point is that most of us do

(47:34):
not travel for work. We don't commute. We basically live
in the town that we work in, and that is
a difference. But frankly, that stuff is starting to that's
like starting to get splitting here, as territorires explaining is
losing hair. This is just a terrible perception. It just
is a terrible perception. And you know it's a terrible
percession perception because we've now had two days of stories
about two MP's who've done nothing wrong. We've had Chris

(47:56):
Luxen in trouble for taking the money doing nothing wrong.
We've had Bill English historically in trouble for taking the
money for doing nothing wrong. Clearly people don't like it.
Now my prediction is nothing is going to change because
MPs love this perk way too much. Who wouldn't, So
they're not going to want to change it. But they
should because there is a growing resentment towards the political
class screwing the scrum in their favor all of the time,

(48:17):
like taking a pay rise while they fire thousands of
public servants. And it led this perception of this growing
resentment towards the political class led to the US in
twenty six twenty sixteen voting led to them voting in
a clown like Trump just because he's not in the
political class. They're about to do exactly the same thing
for the same reason. Politicians can keep on taking the
entitlements that they are entitled to if they want to,

(48:40):
but they will not be respected for it, even if
it's in the rules.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Ever, do to see Allan, here is another.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Reason for you to have a baby. Paid parental leave
is going up from July. So the paid parental leave
is currently seven seven hundred and twelve dollars per week.
Is per week. That's not bad. That's the accommodation allowance.
There's a lot of money. Seven hundred and twelve dollars
per week. It's going to go up to seven hundred
and fifty four dollars per week. So there you go.

(49:08):
If you don't know what to do with yourself later
on today or whatever, just start thinking of ways to
make money by having a baby. And you get a
text cut too. I got an email from Jerry earlier
today which I think is on the point. Heather. There's
a lot of radio silence about Dame Patsy Ready, isn't there?
Just I just want you to know that the show
is keeping tabs on a bunch of things. We're still
waiting for Rob Nical to set up his rebel group

(49:30):
the Tribunal, we're waiting for Patsy Ready to quit over
the governance proposal thing that didn't go away, and we're
still waiting for Darlene Tanner's investigation Headline's.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Next hard Questions. Strong opinion, Heather Duper see allan drive
with one New Zealand let's get connected and news talk
as it'd be.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Rady Ruby on your watch list as well, although I'm
starting to lose hope in that one. I don't know
about you, Heather. I almost always agree with you, but
today you're wrong. Politicians work in Wellington and in their electorate.
It's not as straightforward as buying a house with your
new jobs. Do you know what I feel like I
should clarify. I don't mind if they get an accommodation allowance.
I just don't think they should be able to get
an accommodation allowance to live in their property that they

(50:18):
own themselves. In the end, it's not going to cost
us any less, right, It's all they're going to do
is they're going to rent out their flat, move into
another flat and claim it for that that. It's just
the perception thing will change, and that I think is
everything in this. We'll talk to the Huddle about it.
They're going to be with us very shortly. Do you
remember our Defense Force recently was conducting those patrols near
North Korea to see if the if North Korea was
breaking the UN sanctions, and then the North Koreans busted

(50:40):
us doing and they got really angry at us for it.
Here's a juicy update on that for you. The Air
Force reckons it did, in fact bust some sanctioned breaches.
It had it aside and up and it's sore. It
reckons it saw ship to ship transfers of coal and oil.
So like these things, they're doing it while at sea,
that pull up next to each other, presumably tie up,
next raft up, and then they start transferring the coal

(51:02):
in the will quite how you do? I mean we'd
be talking about a significant amount of coal on a
ship and a significant amount of oil, and quite how
you do that? And how long that takes? No idea,
but anyway, a bit.

Speaker 19 (51:12):
More elaborate than a bucket line. You're saying heither you
know the one where you why when you fills up
the bucket then you pass it to the next guy.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Imagine how long it would take if you were just like, hey,
I'm just going to chuck some coal over at you
just just clear the deck. You would go like, hang on.

Speaker 19 (51:23):
This one's kind of a funny shape, so it doesn't
fit in the bucket. So we'll need to yehez.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
No, you'd have to have some you'd have to be
smarter than us and figure out a system. Fortunately, the
Air Force actually reckons, they saw what happenings, so they
can answer those questions. Though with us after six it's
twenty three away from six.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Heather duer Seel Consumer.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
New Zealand is launching a petition calling for banks to
reimburse scam victims. Now. They think that unless a scam
victim has been grossly negligent, the bank should have a
responsibility to pay back any money that was nicked. Jessica
Walker is the communications and campaigns manager at Consumer and
with US Now. Hey Jessica, Hi, how are you very well?
Thank you, Jessica. I would imagine that very very few
scam victims would be considered grossly negligent.

Speaker 20 (52:01):
Yet no, no, I wouldn't agree with that at all.
So I think that scammers are being targeted by professional
invisible criminals, and what they're doing is they're leading people
to believe that they are on a legitimate site or
they are being made an offer that is legitimate. And
so at the minute, our lacklist to protections in the
banking system makes us easy prey and so that's why

(52:23):
we've launched this campaign today.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
No, The reason I'm asking you there is because we
would be talking about reimbursing reimbursing most scam victims, wouldn't.

Speaker 20 (52:30):
We Yes, it would be it would be most most
scam victims. Absolutely, yeah, is that reasonable? Yes? So before
we launched this campaign, we've looked around to see what's
being done in other countries. So we've looked specifically at
the UK, Australia and Singapore and what we've seen there
is that governments have taken a really strong stance to
protect their people. And so what we're wresting our government

(52:52):
is just to do the same, to offer New Zealand
as the same protection so that we are no longer
at the mercy of these these these cyber criminals.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
But what would we do in an instance where a
scam victim genuinely believes that they are transferring money into
something that is completely legit. The bank tells them it's
not legit, don't do it. They are determined to do it.
Whose fault is that?

Speaker 7 (53:14):
Well?

Speaker 2 (53:15):
And it goes through right, because I'm an adult, and
if I want to see money to a scam, I
have the right to do that, And then afterwards I'm angry.
Whose fault is that?

Speaker 20 (53:24):
Well, that's a really good question. So I mean it
depends all of these All of these circumstances obviously going
to be different. And if the bank can tell you
that it is a genuine scam and then you choose
to go ahead, then you'll be classed grossly negligent. So
if the bank has used their intelligence to tell you
that this is a scammer and you still go ahead,
then of course that's on you. But most of the
time that's really not what's happening. These are innocent people

(53:47):
being exploited by professional criminals, and at the minute, all
the rescue is being carried by your average citizen. Nobody
else is liable almost saying that's not fair. Things We've
got to change.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Are you at all worried that this may tip into
kind of an uncomfortable situation where the banks get way
too up in your girl, because none of us loved
it when the banks were going through our receipts and
looking at what we was how much money we were
spending on KFC before it before allowing us to buy
a out, and I just wonder if we might be
requiring the banks to get just a little too into
the weeds with us.

Speaker 20 (54:18):
I think what we need to do is we need
to look at what's happening elsewhere. So there's something called
so a real payment network which has been in existence
in the UK since two thousand and eight, real time payment. Sorry,
we don't have that here and now, and that doesn't
just make payments faster, it makes them smarter. And so
that means that there's so much information that banks can
see and that can help them to determine what's going on.

(54:39):
So everybody has that level of I guess, just clarity
that things are safe and fine. We don't have that.
So at the minute, it's all on risk, and the
risk is on us. And so we're saying that because
of the lack of investment in the banking infrastructure and systems,
we think that that banks need to step up and
provide these protections that currently exist elseware and not here.

(55:02):
So that's what's behind our campaign. It's launched today.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
No fair enough. They really need to do more. Jessica,
Thank you so much. Jessica Walker. Consumer Communications and Campaigns Manager.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's international realty unparalleled reach
and results.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I'm the huddle with us this evening. We've go Jordan
Williams of the Taxpayers Union and Jack Tame, hosts of
Saturday Mornings and Q and A Lads. Hello Jordan. Big
news for the farmers today because they don't have to
pay for their emissions. Do you think it's a smart move.

Speaker 18 (55:27):
Well, it's a huge win for the fed farmers, beef
and lands as ground swell, et cetera, et cetera. Yes,
huge win. And I mean it is stupid that we'd
shoot ourselves in the foot and say, look, you New
Zealand farmers need to pay for agricultural emissions where no
one else in the world is. The all comes back
to New Zealand. It has as a third World style

(55:50):
emissions profile. And then it's you know, the big, the bigger,
we're bigger misss of methane, but we've signed on to
first world carbon agreements. It is a real problem from
an economic perspective and a tax pising is perspective. We
don't We're pretty uncomfortable with the government playing favorites in
terms of industry and the eaty Yes, because of course
these other industries that are internationally competitive having to pay

(56:13):
under an easy Yes, why should agriculture be different. But
it depends if you take a purist approach or a
you're on the side of farmers. But certainly what it's
been about three years of hard work for those organizations
and today they won.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Jackie, are you going to say what I think you're
going to say?

Speaker 5 (56:31):
What do you think I'm going to say that smart move?

Speaker 8 (56:34):
No?

Speaker 5 (56:35):
I think it was an entirely predictable move. I mean,
I you know it does feel you love it? Well,
I mean it feels like a predictable move in that
I think herewakeg I was looking pretty dead. And I
mean the associate minister you now have you know, contributing
to the government's position on these issues, was themself vehemently

(56:55):
opposed having been part of that. You love that process.
I love what's for a smart move? Now, I didn't
say it was a smart movement? Well, I mean, I
think at some point we do have to reckon without
with the role that methane plays. And Jordan's I mean
made an interesting comment right said, we've signed up to
these international agreements regarding carbon but in a sense we

(57:17):
have a third world emissions profile because methane makes up
so much of our missions profile. But of course that
the current zero commitments that we have don't include methane.
They do, they do include a significant reduction, but it's
a band for reduction of methane and in lieu of
anything any technologies to bring down our methane reductions that
have yet been proven. I do think it's going to

(57:38):
be a challenge for future generations to face, and I
do find it interesting that so often the industry position
on this is one of leakage, right, Like, if New
Zealand starts charging methane then you know, charging for methane emissions,
then that that that industry will move overseas. I looked
up to Climate Course and stuff, because they did a
big report on this and said consequently, the risk of

(58:02):
leakage does not appear high enough to provide a convincing
argument for New Zealand not to implement to reduce its
own emissions. So, I mean they don't. The Climate Change Commission, but.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
What can's own report said that leakage was going to
be significant.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
Yeah, but that's industry lead right, No, that was joined.

Speaker 18 (58:24):
That was our point of you know, is you know
we're together. The other point that the farmers would look on.
I arrived at field days this afternoon. We're over the
next few days, and so I'm going to fit to
put the farmer's head on here. One of the problems
with methane, and it's a it's a valid argument that
no one's really tackled, is that, unlike CEO two, it
breaks down in twenty years. So if you can make

(58:46):
the argument that as long as you're not producing more
methane than we were twenty years ago, we are actually neutral.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Yeah, which is a fair point.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
It breaks it breaks down in twenty years. But but
but let me ask does it do Does it have
more or less of a warming effect those twins.

Speaker 18 (59:02):
As long as you're not producing more.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
No, but you're only replacing what you were doing.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Twins live fast, young. But it's not it's hardly met
zero though.

Speaker 18 (59:12):
Is it. As long as you're not producing more, you're
you're only producing what's breaking down. You're not having a
net warming effect.

Speaker 5 (59:21):
My point is it's not neat zero, which is which
is which is to go back to your initial points
around the international targets we're signed up to.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
It's not neat zero, it's less than what we might
Now I'm going to confuse jack because now I feel
like you don't think it's a good idea.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
I don't think what's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Making the farmers taking the farmers out of the e
T s.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
No all, I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
I'm just trying to get you think you've got your
bum pricked.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
On in lieu of another option. I think this is
going to be an issue that at some point we
have to reconiz when it comes to when it comes
to our missions profile. It's not to say that hiwaki
Ichino was necessarily going to be the best option, but
it is to say that I think future generations are
probably going to have to reckon with this in some ways.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Maybe they calm down, Jackson. There's an alternative. There is
an alternative bodies that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
Can actually do anything about this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
There's an alternative which is that actually everybody just calms
the farm and realizes climate change may not be priority
number one. We'll come back to the huddle and just
to take fourteen away from.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
All right, we're back of the huddle, Jack Tam Jordan Williams. Jack,
do you reckon? Eighty k is enough to get someone
to knock on that Missing Data Matter corpor I would
for eighty k just put that out there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
I think it probably is. If indeed there are people
who have information which they think they could find them with,
then yep, I reckon. I reckon eighty K is probably
working to someone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Yeah, I'm children. You can buy yourself a nice Highlucks
and still have money left over.

Speaker 18 (01:00:52):
You'd have to have a heck of a lot of
loyalty to be involved in sheltering the stare that war
poor family.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Yeah. True. Hey, listen, while I've got you Jordan on
that pole today, do you reckon? Because you're responsible for this,
I need to say that you guys pay for this pole?
Do you reckon? The Coalition government will ever really improve
their popularity?

Speaker 18 (01:01:14):
Well, Bulger was never particularly popular, and yet you know
I had a had at least the first three years
of that government was pretty successful. I mean, the thing
that I'm worried about is not a huge amount of movement.
You know, I'm not going to do a Mikey Sherman
and jump up and down and say this is the
best pole ever. But it is the first of the
major polls post budget, not a hell of a heat

(01:01:36):
of a lot of movement. I thought that the hero
saying that it was some shock for the Nats, well
it was. It's all margin of era stuff. I thought
it was significant that the Maray Party were up a
bit that you know, then they actually moved more than
than the competence interval or the margin of era. It
does suggest though the NATS didn't move a lot of
votes with that budget. And as I said to our

(01:02:00):
donors that get the full report, that the concerning thing
is is a sort of breakdown on confidence of the
two major parties on the various issues, or this government's
really going to have to do a heat of a
lot more than or do some actual reform, deliver or
convince your elector at two and a half a year's time.
But they delivered the change of direction or brighter future,

(01:02:23):
whatever you want to call us, because simply managing it
to suggests that's the public is losing faith.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yeah, what do you reckon?

Speaker 18 (01:02:31):
Jack?

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
It's going to take for them to get popular.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
I think a period of sustained economic growth that we're
unlikely to have for at least twelve months. I mean,
I just cannot see them massively improving their popularity stakes
until the economy starts notably turning for the better. And
I think that would honestly be the same regardless of
what parties were in government. Right now, it's just so
bleak for so many Kiwis. And look, maybe they'll see

(01:02:56):
a very kind of small bump once people start noticing
that the tax cuts in their in their take home pay.
But honestly, I think regardless of who is in government
for at least the next twelve months, they'd be facing
a pretty tough time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Probably, So listen, Jordan, I think there's nothing wrong technically
with MP's claiming an accommodation allowance like Karen mcinnaughty for
living in properties that they themselves or their wives own
or whatever. But the perception is wrong, and I just
wonder if we need to change the rules just for
that perception. What do you think?

Speaker 18 (01:03:26):
Yeah, we had a long debate the last few days,
and there was in that MP a few days ago,
you know, living in a TACKI and you know, finishing
at ten thirty and you know the PM is saying,
you know there's going to be back at work at seven. Well,
I mean, come on, I mean a hotel two nights
a week would would be a heck of a lot
cheaper than the entitlement. And then now you've got and
it's actually it's a pox on all houses. Well, you

(01:03:48):
know you got from Willie Jackson through I'm sure does
that VMPSA do it too, that they buy the house
and then pay themselves the accommodation allows so they can
pay their own mortgage. It's irrelevant whether it's owned by
the way, the wife or the MP. But it just
like we didn't come out and have a go add ap.
But it feels it's a pretty bad stinch to it,

(01:04:11):
isn't it? Because no one else. I mean I traveled
Wellington almost every week. But at the idea that my
employer would would pay me at an allowance to be
in Wellington and I'd own own the apartment down there
and pay the mortgage, I think, come on, that's that's
taking OK.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Thank you you've given me a sense check on it,
because yeah, I think even though the rules are the rules,
and I understand why just the thing feels off. Guys,
Thank you so much, Jack Tam Jordan Williams. A huddle
seven away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
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your car on your drive home. Heather duple c Allen
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News talk as they'd be hither.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
The whole crap about climate change in the way you
guys are going about it is mental. The one thing
you guys will not discuss as population reduction, the earth
needs less you mean fewer people, not more, but none.
You will even entertain the ideas being valid because it's
too difficult. Look, this is the truth, right. The only
way that we're going to stop putting such a burden
on the planet is if there are a fewer of us.

(01:05:09):
Who's going to do that. Who wants to be that
guy going around going hmmm, we're just going to need
to get rid of for some people, hair like you
can't do it right. The only way that you can
do it, potentially is go the way of Japan, which
is basically let the population get old and then you know,
like drop your birth rate down, which we're doing. We're
doing pretty admirably at that. But then when you've got
Julian Jenter having two babies and you're like, well, even

(01:05:30):
the Greenies don't stick to that particular ethos, right, even
they are having babies, and you're like, well maybe it's
I don't know.

Speaker 19 (01:05:37):
You know, and the Prime Minister telling us to have
more as well.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
And then you've got lux and saying have more baby.

Speaker 19 (01:05:41):
If we were to pursue this policy, like we've got
a big mountain to climb in terms of two messaging
around don't we.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Thank you mans? Plus then they're upping the paid parental
leave and they're giving you extra tax dollars if you've
got a baby in EC and stuff like that's like
real mixed messages like do you want me or do
you not want me to have a baby? What's more important?
I don't even know why you want me to have
a baby. Or paying for our people's healthcare? I get it, no,
And maybe oh that's the question, right, do you care
about the climate or do you care about paying for

(01:06:06):
old people's healthcare? Because if we care about the healthcare,
we need to have babies, don't we anyway? Listen on
another subject altogether, Singapore Airlines is offering compo to the
passengers who were hurt on that flight to London, you know,
the one that had the terrible turbulence about three weeks ago.
They've sent them letters. They say they're gonna give them
ten thousand US dollars, which is sixteen thousand New Zealand
dollars in compo. Guys, that's the first offer. I mean

(01:06:29):
what I would do right now to be their lawyer
and negotiating for them ten thousand dollars for a little
nink or something like that, I'd be going. I'd be
like triple it. I'll be times are by ten if
that's the opening offer. Because Singapore Airlines doesn't want us
to drag out in the media. They want us to
forget about that. So the longer you can drag it
out making as much noise as possible, the better. Ten
thousand dollars. Ah, that's the start of the thing. Go

(01:06:53):
to luck and oh, by the way, the ones who
are properly hurt, like really really really hurt, bag and
they'll get more than that. That's just for the looking
licks and stuff like that. Next up, we'll talk to
the Air Force about what they saw out there with
the North Korean sanctions being busted. News talks AB.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
You've been track of where the money is flowing. With
the business hour, we'd header duplicy Allen and my hr
on newstalks atb evening.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
We're gonna have a chat in the next hour to
federated farmers about the news that agriculture has been taken
out of the etes though with US half the half
past six brad Olsen on the government making it easier
for foreign investors to build houses, will also chat to
Jammie mackay and into Brady seven past six. The New
Zealand Air Force reckons it's seen evidence of the UN
sanctions against North Korea being breached. An Air Force Posidon

(01:07:43):
flew eleven patrols to monitor those UN sanctions. Recently, reckons
it witnessed ship to ship transfers potentially of banned goods
like oil and coal. Now Wing Commander Mark Whiteside was
the commanding officer of this of this mission, High Mark Hi, Ever,
how many times do you go see this happen?

Speaker 15 (01:08:02):
So we patrolled on eleven separate occasions up into the region,
and on four occasions we did detect what we call
ship to ship transfers on the high sea that could
be in support of the evasion sanctions.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Could you see from all the way up there, whether
it was a whale or coal or whatever it was.

Speaker 15 (01:08:21):
Yes, certainly, So we target in particular the commercial oiling
ships or any ships that carry refined petroleum, because that
is the sanctions that we're up there to detect. So
with our imagery we'll certainly be able to see if
two vessels are close together. It's very very obvious once
they've rafted up on the high seas, and we'll get

(01:08:44):
close enough to take imagery and collect evidence to the
point that you can see the hoses between the two vessels.
So they're definitely transferring refined petroleum.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Right, okay, And so how long does it transfer.

Speaker 15 (01:08:56):
Take on I'm not a Marinis sorry. We can say
is that as soon as that we've detected any type
of transfer, then that activity is occurring. And then we
have to piece together a whole lot of other information
that has seen the draft state of the vessels before
and after to see how much I gets deeper in
the ocean they sit versus before any transfers. So really

(01:09:20):
it relies on a whole lot of information rather than
staying there and observing the whole activity from start to finish.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
How do you know for sure that one of the
vessels is a North Korean vessel.

Speaker 15 (01:09:31):
There's many things we can do when we're connecting and
surveillance to our team will look for what flag it
is flying, it's international Maritime Organization number, where it's registered,
whether it's displaying this, and whether that's different to what's registered.
There's a whole host of ways that people trying to
evade sanctions, behavior that they will take that is quite

(01:09:52):
suspicious from all of that, and try and try and
piece that together. It's not so much you know, looking
for any one but kular piece of information.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
You say that that these vessels are avoiding or are adopting.
All the players are adopting tactics to avoid being spotted.
I'm assuming that's things like flying perhaps an incorrect flag.

Speaker 15 (01:10:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's correct. They can, they can paint over
their original names, change their names many times as it
changes ownership. They can report in correct information on what's
called AIS or the Automatic identification system that commercial ships
are required to transmit on, or they can completely turn
that off, which is against all kind of international law,

(01:10:35):
many different other activities, including the route they're taking for navigation,
and the time of day and where they're going. All
sorts of that activity needs to be pieced together, right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
And which is the other ship? The other ship? Where
is it coming from?

Speaker 15 (01:10:52):
Many different places, so and we'll keep looking for different
areas of interest or hotspots where we where we know
this happens. And it can come from the south of
North Korea, it can come from the east. It's wherever
they can get it from.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
So what I'm meaning is basically, I'm trying to I'm
trying to ask you which is the country that's preaching
the sanctions here.

Speaker 15 (01:11:13):
That's so that's hard for us to tell as a
maritime surveillance aircraft. There can be no flag at all
on some of these vessels. So that's why we pass
this information onto the Enforcement Coordination Cell that will piece
all that together and try and work on that big picture.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Right, what happens now with the information you have?

Speaker 15 (01:11:30):
So we pass all that information onto that Enforcement Coordination Cell,
which is a multinational organization that does piece together every
individual nation's kind of surveillance activities and tries to put
that big picture together. That's passed on and back to
the UN Security Council, which is the entity that sets
these resolutions in the first place, and then other action

(01:11:51):
can occur as well. If there is like a flag
state that's been identified, then they can pass that information
directly to that state to take their own action.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
If I'm assuming that the flag state is China, would
I be wrong?

Speaker 6 (01:12:05):
No?

Speaker 15 (01:12:06):
I can't, honestly can't answer that one, because we literally
don't deal with the ECC side of it. We only
deal with what we see out there, and from what
we saw, there were no flag states. They hide themselves
particularly well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Mark, Thank you is fascinating stuff. Thanks for talking us
through it. That's Mark Whiteside, win Commander Mark's Whiteside, Royal
New Zealand Air Force. Hither did you enjoy the Warriors game?
This could be their year. Marvelous show all the best rate?
What a lovely text rate. We've got the list out
Johnson Seawan. Johnson's at number seven and as predicted by
Darcy Waldgrave, slightly slightly less than a couple of hours

(01:12:40):
ago to myoty, Martin has slipped back to number six.
There are some in this organization's sports team who believe
that that is a mistake because Tomty Martin is on
form and doing so well that Sean Johnson will just
not play as well. I'll tell you what I've I
feel sympathy for Sewan Johnson at this point because that
is a lot of pressure to be under when you've
got your kind of a printer sitting there doing as

(01:13:02):
well as Tomighty Martin was doing. Anyway, it's going to
make the thing even more interesting to watch, isn't it.
Brad Olsen's with US next thirteen past six.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Duplicy
Allen with the Business Hours thanks to my HR, the
HR platform for SME on us talks EDB everything from
SMEs to the big corporates. The Business Hour with Heather
Duplicy Allen and my HR the HR platform for SME
used talks ed B.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Yeah, the Mark from the Air Force definitely knows. He
just doesn't want to tell you, probably to protect you
from your old mate, Ken. That's very kind of That's
probably China, isn't it. With China that's doing it well?
Who else would it be? Who's mates with North Korea? Nowadays?
China so it's China sixteen past six now the government
is set to change the Overseas Investment Act to get
more foreign investors to build housing here. It's aimed to

(01:13:52):
unlock money going in to build to rent developments. It's
not going to change bands on foreigners buying existing residential property.
All Land Brad Olso is Informetric's principle economist, Hey Brad
Good evening, how's this going to work?

Speaker 21 (01:14:05):
Well, I think they're trying to make it so there's
a streamlined pathway for this investment having instead of having
to go through the normal hoops, if you will, of
overseas investment, which does seem to take quite a while.
It seems to be complex and costly, you know, and
it's the same for if you're doing a build to
rent scheme or if you're trying to purchase part of
another foreign company. The government said they want to provide

(01:14:27):
that sort of more streamlined option, so there's a specific
sort of ability to go through so you can get
your application in for build to rent and that'll be
a bit, hopefully a bit quicker enabled. I mean, it
seems to be an area where we need more housing.
We'll take all the help we can get. And if
investors are saying, as they often do, that there is
you know, that crunch point of having to go through

(01:14:48):
all the paperwork and similar this seems to be a
fast and efficient method to try and get some of
those investors back into the country a bit quicker.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Are they interested in coming here?

Speaker 21 (01:14:56):
These investors, well, it seems like, I mean this announcement
was made as the Prime Minister and the Housing Minister
we're opening a new bill to rent development in Mount
Wellington from an overseas provider, and I think as well.
The difference here, right is that they're not looking to
just have people to come into New Zealand and sort
of buy in one existing property and rented out like

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a mum and dad investor. The idea here is to
sort of have slightly larger, sort of medium scale operations
and also importantly that they'll often be sort of longer lasting,
so that gives a bit more security for the landlord
for the operator that they've got sort of a longer
term and sort of more consistent return. Also probably good
for the renter who doesn't have to worry as much
or won't have as much worry about getting turfed out.

(01:15:39):
I mean, look, Heather, as a renter, that's always something
I worry about at the moment.

Speaker 8 (01:15:43):
So this seems like a.

Speaker 21 (01:15:44):
Good middle ground and a good plan to try and
add a bit more into the housing supply over time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Yeah, totally. Now, Chris Bishop talked about the need to
lower construction costs. That's easier said than dan Wards's plan.

Speaker 21 (01:15:56):
Well, I think you've heard from both him and also
the building construction pink over some of these areas where
they want to bring in the ability to have basically
a wider variety of products so that you know, that's
one of the things that competition will overtime lower building costs.
But at the same time, you don't want to go
into a position where you let anyone use anything. You

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get lower quality products and it sort of screws it
up and we have another leaky home. So I think
what they're looking at at the moment is trying to
lower that barrier by seeing if there are other comparable
jurisdictions in the world if they allow a particular building product.

Speaker 8 (01:16:30):
Will be able to use it as well.

Speaker 21 (01:16:32):
In New Zealand, you saw during the likes of the
pandemic when supply chains were a bit broken, and you know,
there was a not as much ability to produce some
of the fiber board, and that for houses overseas, we
were bringing in elephant board and stuff that came through.

Speaker 8 (01:16:46):
So that's I.

Speaker 21 (01:16:47):
Think an enduring opportunity because every building you speak to
sort of talks about two things. One the materials cost
a lot, and two the consents cost a lot and
take a long time. So if they can try and
fix all parts of that, you don't need to completely
fix them overnight. Just a bit of improvement in all
of them I think would go a long way to
enhancing how quickly we can get stuff built and hopefully

(01:17:08):
at not the same insane costs that we sometimes have.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Yeah too, right, well said hey Brad, thank you very much.
Look after yourself, Brad Olson. And for metrics principle economists,
hither Shawn Johnson was the reason they were on the
losing run. He's going to be the reason why they
lose this weekend. Then call from Ian Let's see how
it goes. Let's see I mean, look, regardless whether they
win or lose, right, you could just judge him on
his individual performance will be pretty pretty apparent after watching

(01:17:31):
Tomiodi Martin play for the longest time. Right, we're able
to see where there he's stacking up against the guy.
Do you remember the tunnel under Wellington that Samie and
Brown was looking into as a possibility and everybody laughed
at it because we thought and our new four kilimeter
tunnel under Wellington and if there's an earthquake, the tunnel
is going to break. And you know, tunnels, why do
we need them? It's New Zealand, we could do everything

(01:17:52):
about the God it's just like lots of laughing at
this particular project because it's a big project, right, big project.
Turns out Samian Brown has been nearly a million dollars
on the consultants to investigate it, and that is not
the end of the cost for the consultants. He's already
saying that it's going to cost us another five hundred
and fifty thousand dollars to complete the consultation work. So
by the time he's finished just investigating whether he wants

(01:18:13):
to do the tunnel, it's going to cost one and
a half million dollars in consultants. He better bloody build
the thing, that's as you're going to sink that much
money into consultants. You bet it. This be better be serious,
because everybody's laughed at this, and everybody said that we
don't need this thing. And if you're gonna chase something
like this and then you're going to put that much
money into it, better you better go through with it

(01:18:35):
and actually build the thing. I mean. And the reason
that I've got very little time for this kind of
spending at the moment is because we just went through
six years of squandering money on this stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:18:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
We spent how much on consultants and leasing out offices
for the bike bridge to Birkenhead which we didn't build,
And we had how much spent on light rail consultants
and drawing up plans and redrawing the plans and redrawing
the plans and redrawing the plans and buying a Bacon
building and then we didn't get the light rail in
the end anyway. And the unemployment insurance same same. So
if you're spending one and a half million on consultants,

(01:19:04):
I want a tunnel now. Six to twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
A rural report on the Heather duper Celan Drive with
hands Kofoods, New Zealand's famous beef and lamb hither.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
That's still a lot less than Michael Wood, who spent
fifty three million dollars in consultants for a bike bridge
that went absolutely That's a fair point, I suppose when
you put in that kind of context one million bar
chump change. But still now I do want my tunnel,
don't you. Six twenty four Jamie mckaye Hosts of the
Countries with us Ay.

Speaker 13 (01:19:29):
Jamie get A Heather. I'm coming to you from a
top of the Bombay Hills, just flowing into Auckland, but
making our way down to Hamilton for day one of
field Days tomorrow. I know you've got Wayne Langford coming
up very shortly on Hewoker Echinoa being kicked for touch.
I say, not before time, So I don't really want

(01:19:50):
to steal his thunder on the subject, But feel free
to ask me any question.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
What do you reckon? The vibe is going to be
at field Days.

Speaker 13 (01:19:58):
Look, it'll be subdue, I think, especially for people with
big ticket items, and I'm talking the tractors, the utes,
that sort of thing. Look, there's no spare there's no
spare cash and farming and any of the farming systems
at the moment, and especially when I look at sheep
and beef, especially sheep. But they're in the doldrums. It's

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as bad as it's been since the nineteen eighties. However,
we have had a positive a few positive GDT auctions
heading into this. Kiwi Fruit's going really well. And I
think the main purpose of field days, and I'm sure
that the people selling scaler up red bands and Swan
drise will do just fine, and the food people will

(01:20:39):
do just fine. But I just think that the main
thing about field days is to get off, go and
have a look, even if you're only tire kicking and
a bit of networking. Good for the soul heather, And
do you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Think it will buck there their spirits a little bit
up to hear that they're out of the ets.

Speaker 7 (01:20:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:20:57):
Absolutely. Look, I know I'm quoting Wayne Langford here, even
though he's coming on. He said the previous government were
too focused on pricing farmers. This is for their omissions
obviously driving and this is a good quote, driving blindly
towards unachievable political, unscientific methane reduction targets. And when they
were talking about up to forty seven percent, that was

(01:21:19):
the end of livestock farming as we know it in
this country. They were we were at the bleeding edge here,
the rather than the leading edge. And I'm a big
fan of the market. I'm starting to sound like Roger
Douglas or David Seymour here, But the best way to
get farmers to reduce emissions And I had this argument
with Damian O'Connor on my show today, actually produced by

(01:21:41):
Andy Duff, who's done doing the hard yards, doing yours.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
I had the argument with them.

Speaker 13 (01:21:46):
That, honestly, if you want farmers to change their behavior,
reduce their emissions, give them a premium. It's just like
when organics came in. This is a premium. Farmers will
do it. That'll be fine at the moment as it
stands right at the moment, the spite what the likes
of Damien says, there isn't a premium, so it will happen.
It's like Rachel Hunter's here, but it won't happen overnight.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Jamie, good on, you go and enjoy yourself. Appreciate it.
Jamie Mackay, host to the Country. Oh, from the Sublime
to the ridiculous. See that pick. Have you seen the
picture of Madame M. Davidson holding the sign that says
eat the Rich. I don't quite know what the event was.
She's standing there with a bunch of other people. One
of them is Riccardo men Inde's march, and they're in Wellington.

(01:22:29):
I recognize some of the buildings, and it seems like
some sort of a rally because there are a few
placards around and stuff. Again, she's got to eat the rich,
and then above it sort of like eat five plus
a day. All those kind of symbols. I don't know
what they were. I don't know what. I don't know
what the rallies for. Could be for any number of things, fires,
food and schools. I don't know. Is it for rich

(01:22:50):
people not paying tax I don't know. Is it just
was like a general grievance.

Speaker 22 (01:22:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Anyway, Eat the riches a little on the nose because
I just feel like this some little, little, little, weird,
little violent imagery. But also Madima earns two hundred and
ten thousand dollars a year, so I mean she's rich,
isn't she. Hello, Madima, you're rich. You're basically advocating for
yourself to be eaten. Like, think about it. Mate. You

(01:23:14):
are what you eat, Heather, you are what you eat.
You know you can't can't do this thing anymore? Headlines
next ss it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Oh, if it's to do with money, it matters to you.
The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and my HR,
the HR platform for sme US talk said, b when
you pawn that you've been.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Gone too long, that photo was definitely taken on Queen
Street in the Britomart station square in front of Commercial Bay.
You're actually right, I've gone to have another look at
it and the buildings are far too new to be Wellington.
Wellington sort of still got that kind of brown glass thing,
isn't it, That kind of scream sort of like eighties
hey days seventies seventies eighties hey Day was, whereas Auckland's
glass is a little bit more the blue tinge, which

(01:23:59):
is a little bit popular at the moment. So yeah,
my apologies for that. Does that mean that it was
the rally that happened on Saturday? So if it was
the rally that happened on Saturday that was anti oil
and gas, did she turn up to an anti oil
and gas one with an eat the rich sign? Anyway?
Somebody says I'm an idiot, and I don't need to
worry at all. Nobody's gonna want to eat my bitter ass.
That's fine. I'm happy with that. Thanks for assuming that

(01:24:20):
I'm a part of the rich that I find that.
I consider that a gigantic compliment, obviously based on my
eighty dollar tax cut, because I've got a baby and
Brady's going to be with us shortly. Because Rishi Sunak,
if you've been keeping an eye on what's going on
with the election over in the UK, you know he's
in big trouble for leaving D Day early. He's now
saying he hopes the British public are going to forgive him.
Probably not, and I don't think they liked him anyway,

(01:24:42):
and now they like him even lease. So that'll be
in ten minutes time, twenty three away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Heather Duplicyl pay on some very good news.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
The government has announced it will remove agriculture from the
Emissions Trading Scheme. The scheme would have seen farmers pay
for their emissions by next year. Now removing it means
that agriculture will be the only major sector again exempt
from the ETS. Wayne Lean anfored is the president of
Federated Farmers.

Speaker 22 (01:25:02):
Hey, Wayne, Hey, good to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
This is a relief, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
It is really.

Speaker 22 (01:25:08):
I mean, there's still significant work to do, but it's
good to have this weight off our shoulders. Aspicial.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Yeah, what's the significant work that you have to do?

Speaker 22 (01:25:17):
Oh, we've got to continue to reduce our missions to
help to help reach the government's targets, right, and we've
said that we're going to do that and we are
working on that. However, we didn't need this threat of
being priced to a point and that's you know, driving
many farmers broke. That was never going to make any sense.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Are you going to do any work because there's another
industry group that's now being set up to replace Hairwalker Echinoy,
Are you guys going to do work towards finding a
way to price your missions?

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Now?

Speaker 22 (01:25:43):
I don't see it said that is the case. I
see it as a group that's working on reducing our
missions and hopefully we can do that without pricing. That's
certainly what I'm leading towards, and I certainly won't be
putting a price on our missions while I'm I'm president
of fed at Farmers and I hope no one else
will be either.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Are you of the view that we should not price
agricultural emissions?

Speaker 22 (01:26:05):
That is my view at the stage, because I think
we can come up with solutions without having to price it,
and if we can, that'll be better for everyone. And
you know, if we can let the markets determine what,
you know, what farmers can and can't do, then I
think that's a good way forward.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Yeah, thank god for some common sense here. Okay, but
what about the threat then that you're going to have
some I mean I'm thinking particularly of dairy, right that
you're going to have the likes of I don't know,
Nisle stop taking, stop taking our products because our emissions
they consider to be too high.

Speaker 22 (01:26:34):
Well, I think that's a classic example, right, farming actually
moved faster than the likes of what her what recon
I was talking about. I mean, we've got Nestleigh asking
us to reduce our missions and Fonterra have responded by saying, hey,
we're going to do that, but with these twenty thirty targets.
So that's that's farmer's taking responsibility for themselves without having
to having to have a price hanging over their heads.

(01:26:54):
And ultimately lending the market decide.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
How does the government feel about you guys never paying
for your missions?

Speaker 22 (01:27:01):
Oh well, I hope that they're feeling all right because
they know how much we contribute to the to the
to the country. And then also on top of that,
they know how much we contribute to vival emissions. We
actually bring warm them down in this country by producing
the milk in the way that we do, and they
know that if they if they cap production here, it's

(01:27:22):
going to go off season, it's going to produce the
missions that are higher rate. That just makes no sense
at all, Am I right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
In thinking there is no other country in the world
that charges farmers for their emissions.

Speaker 22 (01:27:32):
That's my understanding as well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
So it would have been a completely crazy thing that
only we were doing.

Speaker 22 (01:27:38):
Well exactly when when we are so efficient. That's that
was the frustrating thing about it. So so yes, we
acknowledge that, you know, there will be tools that have
come along and other countries may may jump on these
and we may not be as the most efficient leading
into the future. But that's why we've got to keep
working on it. Right, We've got this competitive edge at
the moment. Let's keep working and spending the money on

(01:27:58):
that rather than then you know, some big text that
goes who knows where and producers who knows what?

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Wayne? You know, the thing about it is, I mean,
you can have some common sense in the current government,
but the last lot will pretty kookie, and there's always
the chance that the next red team that comes in
as kookie as well. Are you guys worried that you
might get a slight reprieve but this thing is just
going to come at you anyway.

Speaker 22 (01:28:22):
Oh well, that's that's why I think when we say
we're going to keep working on it, because we are.
I mean, you're right, it's common sense that there'll be
reviews of this as government's changed. But you know, we
also acknowledge that that we are doing a fear bit
of hard work here. We are in front of the
in front of the game, we feel, and that's where
we want to be when the next government does come in,

(01:28:43):
whether it be three, six, nine or twelve years whenever
that is, we'll be ready for it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Have you heard from many farmers about how they feel
about this.

Speaker 22 (01:28:53):
I'm certainly a fear bit of relief. I think that's
what I'm hearing early on I'm just heading the field
days now, I'll be catching up with literally thousands of them,
I think. So it's going to be really interesting to
see what the mood is there and how farmers taken
it all on.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Yeah, I was going to ask you, what do you
think the mood's going to be like, because it's a
pretty tough time to be a farmer.

Speaker 22 (01:29:11):
Yeah, definitely a tough tough time. The red Meate tect
here in particular doing it really tough. But the area
has been being going all right, but you know, there's
still not a lot of money around them, particularly not
going through the winter. So the field days are going
to be a really interesting one hopefully. Hopefully those that
are attending a buying something and the guys that are
exhibiting are getting something out of.

Speaker 20 (01:29:31):
It as well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Good stuff, Wayne, listen, enjoy yourself and thanks for your time.
Wayne Langford, Presidents of Federated Farmers. Now, we've been speaking
a little bit in the last week or so about
about the shakeup of the Super Rugby competition, or the
potential shakeup of the Super Rugby competition, how the playoffs
are going to work. One of the possibilities of shaking
up the playoffs, is that you drop the quarterfinals altogether,
because if you don't have enough squads, like if you

(01:29:52):
don't have eight squads going through, then you don't have
a need for the quarterfinals. You just go straight to
the semis and straight at the finals. Right, here's an
argument for why that should happen, why we should drop
the quarterfinals. This is from a sports rider who's crunched
some numbers. He says, the four matches that we played
on Friday and Saturday this past weekend weren't even close
to being close. The Chiefs beat the Reds by twenty

(01:30:14):
three points, the Hurricanes beat the Rebels by twenty seven points,
the Blues beat the Drawer by thirty one points, and
the Brumbies beat the Highlanders by sixty one point sixteen points. Sorry, now,
when you put that all together, the combined winning margin
across the four matches was ninety six points. That only
you've only had it that high or higher than that

(01:30:34):
once before, which was the first time quarterfinals came to
Super Ragby all the way back in twenty sixteen. That
was the inaugural season. The four contests had a margin
of one hundred and three points. It's the second highest.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Even then, two of the wins were by away teams,
which made for better viewing than what was dish up
last weekend, where basically all the away teams lost, right
and it was only the home teams at one. Anyway,
the point of that is simply to say that we
need to get rid of these This is ultimately fundamentally
is it not the problem with Super Rugby? It's just
too uneven. Sometimes you'll get the odd match which is

(01:31:10):
going to be an absolute dazzler, and so you tune
in for for the rest is who wants to watch
the Chiefs beat the Reds by twenty three points? Who
even thought for one second that the Reds were going
to beat the Chiefs? So when it's uneven like that,
it's pointless, in which case get rid of the quarterfinals.
And I'm on board with that argument. Intebrady's with us
next seventeen away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather due
for ce Ellen with the Business hours. Thanks to my HR,
the HR platform for SME on us talks.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
MB Intebrady UK correspondence with US.

Speaker 23 (01:31:39):
Hey ender, hey heave, great to speak to him do.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
You reckon that the public is going to forgive Sunak?

Speaker 23 (01:31:45):
Absolutely not leaving D Day commemorations early. I mean, forty
one men who fought on the beaches eighty years ago
managed to dust themselves off, get themselves into suits, and
get themselves across the channel.

Speaker 8 (01:31:58):
And these are one hundred year old men.

Speaker 23 (01:32:00):
And they managed to see it out to the end
of the day. President Biden eighty one years of age,
not exactly nimble on his feet, he managed to see
it out to the end of the day. And King Charles,
who's got cancer, managed to stay until the end of
the day. People are angry, people are very angry, and
I don't think Sunac is getting it. So he's given
this interview with Nick Robinson on the BBC, which a

(01:32:22):
lot of people watched, and I thought it was a
good combative grilling, and Sunac said that he just hopes
the British public can forgive him. He didn't show very
much remorse, I thought, and he didn't give an explanation.
And for anyone who hasn't followed the story, he bailed
out of D Day early in France to come back
and do a pre recorded TV interview which hasn't actually

(01:32:43):
gone out on air yet.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Yeah. Now, over the weekend, probably as a result of this,
he was on a media blackout right, the media weren't
allowed anywhere near him. That has that now lifted.

Speaker 23 (01:32:54):
So campaign trail today will be different. It's the launch
of the party manifesto.

Speaker 8 (01:32:58):
He can't hide. I mean, look, it's a low bar.

Speaker 23 (01:33:00):
There was a campaign a few years ago Boris Johnson
actually hid in a fridge. Not a word of a lie.
He hid in a fridge to avoid the media. Sunak
had a complete media blackout at the weekend. They wouldn't
let any anyone near him because they knew the anger.

Speaker 8 (01:33:15):
Was so raw with the public that he was quite
likely to get decimated in an interview. So he didn't
do anything at the weekend.

Speaker 23 (01:33:22):
Today's different, it's party manifesto launch. He will be talking
about cutting taxes. I'm sure he will be telling people
again that labor will put up taxes. Labor deny this,
and the focus I think today a lot will be
on house building and in particular helping young people get
on the ladder. We have people in their thirties here
with good jobs, living with mummy and daddy in their thirties.

(01:33:45):
Something has gone badly wrong, and he accepted that. To
be fair to Sunac, he accepted that under a conservative
government it has got harder to buy a house.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Yeah too, right, I mean do you think the fans
off the hook though with him? I mean, nobody's going
to listen to what nobody will ca what's in the
menifestough right.

Speaker 23 (01:34:02):
Well, the polls, the polls are everything, and you know
people are questioning the polls. I've worked long enough covering elections.
It is extremely sophisticated. The polling now and Starmer's hitting
forty six percentage points. And it's really interesting, Heather, because
when you go around and talk to people, what do
you think is Starmar? They all go always quite boring. Ah,
he's got no charisma. Oh I'm not sure I agree

(01:34:24):
with him, but I'm definitely voting for him because he's
not Sunac.

Speaker 8 (01:34:27):
And that'll tell you. That'll tell you soon.

Speaker 23 (01:34:29):
Next polling twenty two to twenty three percent. The other
fellow's double it, and people are saying he's got no charisma.
So it's not like it's not like Tony Blair waves
of optimism and charisma and incredible public speaking.

Speaker 8 (01:34:42):
I think people just don't like Sunac.

Speaker 23 (01:34:44):
But you know, my real concern is who's advising this guy?

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
Right?

Speaker 23 (01:34:49):
I mean, I'm no politician and I'm no political advisor,
But if I was looking at D Day, I would
have said, stay until the last minute, shake hands with
every single one of those men. And if possib when
the king is giving his speech, shed a few.

Speaker 8 (01:35:02):
Tears in public.

Speaker 23 (01:35:03):
Yeah, and that sounds really cynical, but that's what the
public wanted to see.

Speaker 8 (01:35:08):
And he bailed out. He went home early.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Yeah too, Right, he's getting terrible advice or he's just
not listening to advice. Hey, how cute was the advice
that Prince Louis gave the football team.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
I love this.

Speaker 23 (01:35:18):
So EUROP twenty four gets underway on Friday night in Germany.
So it's the Soccer Championships of Europe. The first game
will be Scotland against Germany, and England.

Speaker 8 (01:35:27):
Are in there.

Speaker 23 (01:35:27):
Obviously, England are amongst the favorites to do really, really well,
and Prince William has been to visit the team their
training camp Saint George's Park, and William said to the
boys in the dressing room he was addressing England, giving
him a big kind of send off speech, and he said, look,
I did the school run this morning and I said
to the kids that I'd be seeing you boys later
on today. And I said, any last minute advice kids,

(01:35:49):
What should I tell Harry Kane and the team? And
Prince Louis piped up and he said, have double helpings
at dinner.

Speaker 8 (01:35:55):
That will help you play better. So William passed that
on to the team.

Speaker 23 (01:36:00):
I'm not sure extra food is going to help elite
athletes run around and get crumps and stitches, but it
got a laugh and Prince Louis that's.

Speaker 8 (01:36:06):
What he does.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Yeah, he's gorgeous. Hey, And to thank you as always appreciated, mate,
look after yourself. We'll talk to you in a couple
of days. It's end of Brady, UK correspondent. Earlier today
there was a little bit of news out of Wellington
that somebody had fallen down the stairwell in an abandoned building.
It appears that, I mean, it's kind of being framed
up as like, oh, it's an accident waiting to happen all.

(01:36:27):
I mean, the guy shouldn't have been in the building, right.
It's a derelict building and the building was boarded up
and stuff, and old mate decided to get in there.
And you've got to be responsible for your actions. If
you want to squat in a building that's unsafe, well,
bad things may happen anyway. He is, unfortunately, by the
sounds of things, not in a good way in the hospital.
But it is an interesting point about this, right because
originally people thought it was the Amora Hotel, which if

(01:36:47):
you know Wellington you'll know is kind of there where
the green Parrots. You go further down the key, sort
of like just to the side, there's the older Moro
Hotel hasn't been opened for donkeys years now. It's actually
not that build it's the building next to it, so
I didn't even realize was also not open, which is
Pringle House. Pringle House has been empty in the city
since the Cai Coder earthquake in twenty sixteen. Now, I

(01:37:11):
reckon they have got a problem in Wellington. I reckon
they've got a really big problem and they're gonna have
to do something about this now because there are key buildings.
There's the Amora Hotel, there's the Reading Cinema, there's Pringle House,
all of which have essentially been closed for what's like
seven years, slightly more than that. In some cases, you
can't have that happening in a city. I mean that's
because the alleyway there is being called crack alley. This

(01:37:34):
is between the Amora Hotel and Pringle Hotel because the
place is derelict. As a result, bad people are hanging
around there and just causing trouble and stuff. So anyway
between the city council, when they can stop doing weird stuff,
when they can actually just pay attention to what's going
on in the city, if they could just direct their
attention to this, between them and central government, they're gonna
have to figure out a way of forcing these owners
to do something with the building, either knock the building

(01:37:55):
down or renovate the building or do something. But they
can't just sit there for decades coming up to a decade.
They can't just sit there for that long with absolutely
nothing going on. Seven away from seven, whether.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
It's macro, MicroB or just plain economics. It's all on
The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my Hr,
the HR platform for sme US talk SIP.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Heather, I don't think Rishisona's going to be crying when
he loses the election, his family wealth of six hundred
and fifty million pounds. Trevor, You're right, he's not going
to care at all. But you know, still a bruise
on the ego, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
By the way, I haven't given you an update for
ages on what's going on with the public sector. The
Ministry of Education has confirmed another one hundred and forty
six job losses, taking its total total estimated cuts to
more than seven hundred, which is brilliant because that department
went completely nuts on the hiring, Like they just hired
heaps and heaps people when they should have been hiring teachers.
They were not anyway, Listen, I love a weird baby

(01:38:50):
name because I don't know what, Like, there's there's some
sort of a relationship between being famous and then coming
up with really weird names. I don't know why. Maybe
when you're famous, you realize rules don't apply to you anymore.
So then you're like, nor do they to my children,
So I shall bless them with a weird name. So
a Glee star called Darren Chris and his wife have

(01:39:11):
had a boy, and they've named the little boy brother.
That's his name.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
Why because he is a brother, because I've already got one.
They called that one bluesy Bell, so blueesy bell. They
were like, you're gonna get a brother, We're gonna call
it brother. I don't know that's.

Speaker 19 (01:39:25):
I think brother got the better of that particular exchange,
but only because bluesy Bell is more.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
Yeah, imagine that. I imagine being being born to a
famous person and what have you got?

Speaker 19 (01:39:37):
So, Taylor Swift, who's afraid of little old me? There's
a new book coming out about The Apprentice, the TV
show that Donald Trump. Well, it was what made Donald
Trump famous to a lot of people in this part
of the world. And as part of the book, he
spoke to the authors about his thoughts on Taylor Swift,
and the excerpt where he talks about that has been
published in Variety. So I'm just going to read you

(01:39:58):
what he said. I think she he's liberal. She probably
doesn't like Trump. This is this is what he said.
He said, she probably doesn't like Trump, referring to himself
on the third person. I hear she's very talented. I
think she's very beautiful, actually unusually beautiful. So there we go,
Donald Trump, a uh, Taylor Swift fan if.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
He's trying to get her endorsement, isn't.

Speaker 19 (01:40:17):
He he really is?

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Yes, it's not gonna happen, Trumpy, It's never ever gonna happen.
Best of like mate, Yeah, but you know what, God
loves a tryer and that's how you got to where
you are because you tried. When everybody says it's not
going to happen, Trumpy, you tried and it happens.

Speaker 19 (01:40:30):
Also, you're going to compliment someone I think unusually beautiful.
That's an odd adjective to use there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Unusually is so weird. It's weird, isn't he?

Speaker 9 (01:40:37):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
See you tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
Well, who's afraid a little?

Speaker 16 (01:40:48):
Me?

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
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