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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Barry Soper, senior political correspondence with US. Now, hey, Barry,
good afternoon. What do you make of the third quarter list?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's interesting, isn't it. All governments come out and you
remember labor one year, they called it the Year of
Deliverables and delivered Jasinda Durn delivered virtually nothing in that year.
It was probably one of the worst years. Yet there's
always a danger when you come out with lists and
saying this is what we're going to achieve. But you've
got to say and you know, I can't remember a
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time when a government has actually tackled most of the
things it said what It's got a whole list there
with a stamp done at its side of thirty six,
I think there was thirty seven points that they wanted
to achieve in the second quarter. They got thirty six,
but a lot of them are sort of progress of legislation.
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And similarly, when you look at the third quarter, it's
like things like releasing the draft of a second Mission's
Reduction Plan. Well, you know, that's good, Tony a draft,
so it's not actually introducing it. So there's a lot
of sort of soft stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well marking the steps that they're taking. Towards the thing right.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Here they are, and you know, you've got to say
that's a pretty good thing. The three components of the
third quarter will be rebuilding the economy and easing the
cost of living. And there's a lot of steps that
they talk in the budget, of course, that they would
say achieved that restore law and order, the old gang patches,
things that law will go through, delivering better public services,
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what's left of the public service, it'll you know, there's
a number of aspects of that that they've outlined, and
I've got to say Lason was in a positive spin
mode saying the targets set will see better times ahead.
Here is a few minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
We're doing a lot, as you can see every quarter.
We're being very disciplined about what we are doing and
what we're not doing. And that's the way that we
have to be in order to turn the country around.
That's what's needed in a turnaround job. But I think
a lot of what we want to do in the
space in the coming quarters get the infrastructure that we
know that we need to get going to improve the
productivity of New Zealand. I know it's tough now, but
we actually have a fantastic future ahead of us in
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this country.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
See, I guess the good thing is they're setting targets
and they're measuring themselves against the targets. So if they fail,
I'll have to admit it by notating every target that's
forty in the third quarter, then you know you can
measure them against and how far they've gone to achieve
what they say that some of the.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Stuff is the end of the matter as well, the
end of the process. About nine of the things is
actually passing the legislation at its end point in gazetting
things and so on. So it's not all bad. Yeah,
So not a surprise really that the majority of us,
quite the plurality of us, want to see a new plane.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, it's a Talbot Mills pole, which is the Labor
Party pollsters. The main supports, not surprisingly, come from the
coalition government parties. If you look at the National supporters,
sixty one percent of them say that we should have
planes that can land when the Prime Minister travels overseas,
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sixty percent very close again New Zealand first, and fifty
nine percent for ACT. So there's a strong body of
support for new planes from the coalition parties look at
the other side. Of course, Labour's interesting forty nine percent
say that these planes should be replaced. Then you get
down to the Maori party thirty five percent and the Greens,
of course they would tend to have us out in
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rowing boats to get where.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
The Green I'll never ever, we don't need to fly
because of the climate and there's no such thing as war.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
True that, and so thirty three percent of the Green
say yes they should. But Luxon has been very reluctant,
saying that at a time of the cost of living crisis,
it's very hard to be forking out on planes. Yep.
But he's got a lot of trips coming up this year,
you know, before the year's out. He's talking about going
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to India in the coming month, as well as the
NATO summit and Washington, DC, APEC and which is in
Peru this year, so there's a lot of travel. If
he doesn't take the air Force plans, you may not
get the same media coverage that Prome ministers like to have.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You can probably live without it, how about you, I
could yes, yeah, okay, good settled, don't take the media. Hey,
what did you think of the Trump Biden debate.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Then, Oh, I've got to say the highlight or the
low light of my weekend. Really, I mean, I was
watched it. Like I said on Friday, political tragic. You've
got to sit in front of television and watch these
two men. One a geriatric and I'm not nothing against
elderly people. Now he's a man that's got a real problem,
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and the other one is a blatant liar telling so
many lies. Basically, Trump gave seven of the ten longest
answers during the cour the debate, not surprising either, because
he dominated the microphone more. And it's interesting. You've got
moderators there, but they do nothing. They simply sit there
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because they've got the mute buttons, and they don't answer
follow up questions, which is frustrating. The next day, though,
I've got to say, in North Carolina, Biden sounded like
a totally different person.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Here he is, I like the other guy.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
We're going to stand up the dictators like prudent because
mer composed and no one, no one, no one ever.
Did you see Trump last night? I guess he said.
I mean, it's sincerely a new record for the most
lies tall of a single debate. See the thing is
that we were told he had a cold the night before.
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He sounded pretty clear.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Was that address before four o'clock? Because four o'clock, that's right.
They do all of it between ten am and four pm,
and then he can still function and sound. Barry. Thank
you very much, Barry so for seeing your political correspondent.
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