July 9, 2024 • 9 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, Josie Pagani from Child Fund and journalist Paddy Gower joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
The new Three News bulletin has been out for a few days following Newshub's demise - what do we all think? What's our verdict?
There's no word on whether or not Darleen Tana will resign from Parliament yet - do we think she should? Can the Greens justify letting her go with waka-jumping laws?
There's speculation that Labour is considering an inheritance tax later down the line. Will people go for this?
A Taranaki mother has launched a petition aimed at banning g-string bikinis at public pools. What do we make of this?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
With us now on the Hudle, We've got Joe SPEGANI
child Fund and Patty Gower journalist.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hell are you too, Hey?
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yes, well I'm unemployed and I'm happy to admit it
at day two. I've been unemployed since Monday, two days
in going good? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Did you watch the new three news bullets and Patty?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, I did, look, I am. I actually watched it
on demand because I was down. I was down at
the bridge down the road here in the valley over
the hot River, fishing clarified, just getting a bit, just
getting a bit of kai for the family, you know,
so they'll enjoy a good feed of hearing. But yeah,
(00:38):
I did watch it. I did watch it, and look
it was it was really good, would you.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Say, Patty, would you say? Better than expected? But obviously
cheap and that's not going to be that's not going
to be good for all members of the audience, right, somebody,
some people will find that a little hard to watch.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, I'm an absolutely expert in the program, obviously, and
I thought it was exactly what they should have delivered. Yes,
it's cheaper. It had to be wheras it was going
to get cut off, so it has to be cheaper,
and in terms of the cheaper product, that was pretty
damn good looking the three nights that I've watched, So yes,
it looks cheaper, but it's still there. They've done a
(01:15):
good job. There's no big mistakes. There are three nights,
and I know the people involved in the background, they're pros.
They'll keep it going from here, checking on it in
two months time. But at the moment, that's looking pretty
damn good.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
What do you reckon, Joseph, Yeah, well, I just got
back from the US last night, so I didn't actually
watch it yet, but I just.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Sort of did a box pop, you know, focus group
around the office, and quite a few people watched it
and they liked it. And I think in some ways
that the cheapness that you're talking about, Heather, I think
people quite like that. It's a little bit like how
we all listen to long form podcasts now and you
couldn't get anything cheaper than that, but we love it.
You know, we listened to podcasts on everything from politics
(01:57):
to history to you know, crime stories to whatever. So
I think, I mean, just what we know is that
news is changing so much, and you know, talking about
the US, where I've just been I mean, okay, the
Biden Trump debate was you know, water War, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC,
all the big kind of cable news channels. But also
you look at the figures about ninety percent of Americans
(02:20):
actually get most of the news on their smartphones now,
so they're not looking first, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Point right, we have got used to it, so maybe
we don't need to have like a blockbuster TV news
in the evening and fair point. Now, listen, I want
to talk about Darlene Tanner, Patty. Does Darlene Tanner need
to quit Parliament?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
She needs to quit. She should have quit yesterday or
one hundred and whatever days ago, but she definitely should
have quit yesterday. I cannot think of an MP in
the living history or the history of this country that
has less of a mandate than her. She is a
disgrace for staying on. She is dumbing her nose. You know,
not just at the Green Party who have given her
(02:59):
the altimate Combai kiss and Cattle's kind of approach to justice,
but to the voters and the taxpayers. She needs to
get out of their darling. Tanner needs to go and
go now.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Josie, Yeah, it's not acceptable that an MP refuses to
front up.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
So she said she's been treated badly, unfairly, but she
hasn't really given her side of the story. We just
don't know the fact. But on the other side, you know,
the Greens have failed to really tell us what the
reporter is. I mean, you've told us more than the
Greens have, Heather, they haven't really told us what's in
the taught they're not and they're using these kind of
slightly smoke screen excuses about privacy and they've got to
(03:38):
check with everybody who's names. I mean, you can redact names.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Why don't Why Okay, so the Greens can get all
the legal advice and release the thing. They're not releasing it.
Why do they not want to release it?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Yeah, well that's the question. So it's really hard for
us to understand. I mean, you're absolutely right, Patty. I mean,
she's got to go. She spent one hundred and over
half her time as MP on full pay sitting there,
you know, waiting this thing out. Yes, there's a natural
justice process, but I think it's just you know, I mean,
clearly there's been a breakdown in the party. She's a
list MP I think the biggest thing for the Greens though,
(04:14):
is looking at this and going all the way back
from even Materia Toure. But you know, gold Ritz, Elizabeth, Ketty, Kenny,
Julia and Jenier, there's something wrong in that in that paste. Okay,
Rather maybe Heather, it's just that they've got as many narcissistic,
self serving politicians and their party the other not being
sleman morally superior.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
She has done nothing since she's been in the Parliament.
She got elected because she was in the Greens. She's
a listing pe. People voted for the Greens. Nobody voted
for Darling Tanner. Whatever is in that report, and the
Greens are being soft and not releasing it or whatever.
Look at the end of the day, it's they're annoyed.
It takes a lot to annoy a Green. You know,
they want They are instinctively driven to cuddle someone rather
(04:59):
than keep that. Yeah yeah, okay, but you know they
can they're actually like all of us choker cattle. They
can give the odd they need to give the old
choker cattle, don't they. Anyway. Anyway, she's done nothing, She's
just got to go and they should. They should release
the report leak, the report start leaking on air driver
(05:21):
out of there, they'll have to do all this sort
of stuff. Yeah, but she's just got to go.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I suspect I just have a sneaky suspicion. The report's
not as damning as they've painted it out. So but
we'll see, Laura, have you got any more of that report?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Not yet?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Okay, standing by though, take a break. Come back with
the huddle.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's international realty unparalleled reach
and results.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Right back with the huddle, Joseph Bergani and Patty Gower. Josie,
what do you make of this? Labor? Labor considering an
inheritance tax? But this is a dumb idea, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Well, the problem for labor is they haven't quite you know,
got rid of the ghost of their last tax policies,
which we really died in the service of its spending followings. Right,
so that the reason that no one trusted labor in
the last iteration with it with their tax policy was
that they didn't want to fund Lake Onslow. They didn't
want to fund fifty billion dollars for Lake Onslow and
(06:15):
light rail. So the problem they've got again, it's sort
of political management. They've come out with this policy saying,
do you want an inheritance tax's I say, do you
want to be you have your arm cut off? I mean,
no one wants to say yes for that, So they've
got to come out and say something more coherent like
would you pay this amount for an inheritance tack at
(06:35):
this tax? At this level if you could have free
dental care for the rest of your life, then they're
going to go, Okay, let me think about that. Yes,
maybe I will pay that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, I mean, Patty, it was so unpopular before, it's
proven so unpopular over other parts of the world when
it's been bumped up all brought in. I don't know
that this is going to go anywhere. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah? I just think that to the middle class, key
we and upwards, inherited is everything. People think about it
all the time. You know, coming in and texting it
is not going to go down well with the punters.
Labor should know this. Is they going to come in
and get something like that. Josie is right, she knows
all about this. She's watched this movie upteen times. Labor
(07:16):
need to come in with a comprehensive tax that is
wide and sweeping, but people get something on the other side.
It's senile going and going in and looking like you are.
This inheritance thief is a quick way to go to opposition.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I agree with you. We have to leave it there
because I need to talk to you about this Pad.
I've got a text, Heather, you must get new Plymouth
legiond Paddy g to take on the town pool swimwear
prood fest.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, well I'll take it on. I mean, I've spent many,
many years of my life at the carter Rs stuff.
And you know where was the G string when I
was the G string trend when I was fifteen years
old in nineteen ninety two. You know we're about time,
you know, so I'm driving up for here tonight. Actually,
(08:03):
you're a.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Brave man, Patty. You're a very brave man. If if
you've never worn a G string obviously, Patty, I'm I'm
not judging, but I'll.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Be wearing one tomorrow at Cara Bars, and so will
my dad, Gordon Gower, who was seventy three years old.
He get us both one well free the bum.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Can you just just just arbitrate this for me, This
is a prudish thing to do, right, Get the bum out.
If you want to tan your bum, go for your life.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yes, it's an indoor poll though, if you want.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
To get your bum out and walk around, go for
your life.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
And it's like, and I think it hadn't be all
bums are equaled, like not just a night bum, but
a fat bumb and the oddly shit bum. Whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Mean, look, the world's going to hell and a hand
basket wars are breaking out. We're about to elect in
the US a convicted sellon whose picture electorate is I
did not sleep with a porn star? And what are
we doing in New Zealand having petition about banning g
strength You know what?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
There is there is something about that that's oddly comforting. Guys,
Thank you. I appreciate his. Patty Gower, Joe Spagania, common
sense Huddle this evening.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
With us now on the Hudle, We've got Joe SPEGANI
child Fund and Patty Gower journalist.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hell are you too, Hey?
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yes, well I'm unemployed and I'm happy to admit it
at day two. I've been unemployed since Monday, two days
in going good? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Did you watch the new three news bullets and Patty?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, I did, look, I am. I actually watched it
on demand because I was down. I was down at
the bridge down the road here in the valley over
the hot River, fishing clarified, just getting a bit, just
getting a bit of kai for the family, you know,
so they'll enjoy a good feed of hearing. But yeah,
(00:38):
I did watch it. I did watch it, and look
it was it was really good, would you.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Say, Patty, would you say? Better than expected? But obviously
cheap and that's not going to be that's not going
to be good for all members of the audience, right, somebody,
some people will find that a little hard to watch.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, I'm an absolutely expert in the program, obviously, and
I thought it was exactly what they should have delivered. Yes,
it's cheaper. It had to be wheras it was going
to get cut off, so it has to be cheaper,
and in terms of the cheaper product, that was pretty
damn good looking the three nights that I've watched, So yes,
it looks cheaper, but it's still there. They've done a
(01:15):
good job. There's no big mistakes. There are three nights,
and I know the people involved in the background, they're pros.
They'll keep it going from here, checking on it in
two months time. But at the moment, that's looking pretty
damn good.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
What do you reckon, Joseph, Yeah, well, I just got
back from the US last night, so I didn't actually
watch it yet, but I just.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Sort of did a box pop, you know, focus group
around the office, and quite a few people watched it
and they liked it. And I think in some ways
that the cheapness that you're talking about, Heather, I think
people quite like that. It's a little bit like how
we all listen to long form podcasts now and you
couldn't get anything cheaper than that, but we love it.
You know, we listened to podcasts on everything from politics
(01:57):
to history to you know, crime stories to whatever. So
I think, I mean, just what we know is that
news is changing so much, and you know, talking about
the US, where I've just been I mean, okay, the
Biden Trump debate was you know, water War, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC,
all the big kind of cable news channels. But also
you look at the figures about ninety percent of Americans
(02:20):
actually get most of the news on their smartphones now,
so they're not looking first, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Point right, we have got used to it, so maybe
we don't need to have like a blockbuster TV news
in the evening and fair point. Now, listen, I want
to talk about Darlene Tanner, Patty. Does Darlene Tanner need
to quit Parliament?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
She needs to quit. She should have quit yesterday or
one hundred and whatever days ago, but she definitely should
have quit yesterday. I cannot think of an MP in
the living history or the history of this country that
has less of a mandate than her. She is a
disgrace for staying on. She is dumbing her nose. You know,
not just at the Green Party who have given her
(02:59):
the altimate Combai kiss and Cattle's kind of approach to justice,
but to the voters and the taxpayers. She needs to
get out of their darling. Tanner needs to go and
go now.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Josie, Yeah, it's not acceptable that an MP refuses to
front up.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
So she said she's been treated badly, unfairly, but she
hasn't really given her side of the story. We just
don't know the fact. But on the other side, you know,
the Greens have failed to really tell us what the
reporter is. I mean, you've told us more than the
Greens have, Heather, they haven't really told us what's in
the taught they're not and they're using these kind of
slightly smoke screen excuses about privacy and they've got to
(03:38):
check with everybody who's names. I mean, you can redact names.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Why don't Why Okay, so the Greens can get all
the legal advice and release the thing. They're not releasing it.
Why do they not want to release it?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Yeah, well that's the question. So it's really hard for
us to understand. I mean, you're absolutely right, Patty. I mean,
she's got to go. She spent one hundred and over
half her time as MP on full pay sitting there,
you know, waiting this thing out. Yes, there's a natural
justice process, but I think it's just you know, I mean,
clearly there's been a breakdown in the party. She's a
list MP I think the biggest thing for the Greens though,
(04:14):
is looking at this and going all the way back
from even Materia Toure. But you know, gold Ritz, Elizabeth, Ketty, Kenny,
Julia and Jenier, there's something wrong in that in that paste. Okay,
Rather maybe Heather, it's just that they've got as many narcissistic,
self serving politicians and their party the other not being
sleman morally superior.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
She has done nothing since she's been in the Parliament.
She got elected because she was in the Greens. She's
a listing pe. People voted for the Greens. Nobody voted
for Darling Tanner. Whatever is in that report, and the
Greens are being soft and not releasing it or whatever.
Look at the end of the day, it's they're annoyed.
It takes a lot to annoy a Green. You know,
they want They are instinctively driven to cuddle someone rather
(04:59):
than keep that. Yeah yeah, okay, but you know they
can they're actually like all of us choker cattle. They
can give the odd they need to give the old
choker cattle, don't they. Anyway. Anyway, she's done nothing, She's
just got to go and they should. They should release
the report leak, the report start leaking on air driver
(05:21):
out of there, they'll have to do all this sort
of stuff. Yeah, but she's just got to go.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I suspect I just have a sneaky suspicion. The report's
not as damning as they've painted it out. So but
we'll see, Laura, have you got any more of that report?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Not yet?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Okay, standing by though, take a break. Come back with
the huddle.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's international realty unparalleled reach
and results.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Right back with the huddle, Joseph Bergani and Patty Gower. Josie,
what do you make of this? Labor? Labor considering an
inheritance tax? But this is a dumb idea, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Well, the problem for labor is they haven't quite you know,
got rid of the ghost of their last tax policies,
which we really died in the service of its spending followings. Right,
so that the reason that no one trusted labor in
the last iteration with it with their tax policy was
that they didn't want to fund Lake Onslow. They didn't
want to fund fifty billion dollars for Lake Onslow and
(06:15):
light rail. So the problem they've got again, it's sort
of political management. They've come out with this policy saying,
do you want an inheritance tax's I say, do you
want to be you have your arm cut off? I mean,
no one wants to say yes for that, So they've
got to come out and say something more coherent like
would you pay this amount for an inheritance tack at
(06:35):
this tax? At this level if you could have free
dental care for the rest of your life, then they're
going to go, Okay, let me think about that. Yes,
maybe I will pay that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, I mean, Patty, it was so unpopular before, it's
proven so unpopular over other parts of the world when
it's been bumped up all brought in. I don't know
that this is going to go anywhere. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah? I just think that to the middle class, key
we and upwards, inherited is everything. People think about it
all the time. You know, coming in and texting it
is not going to go down well with the punters.
Labor should know this. Is they going to come in
and get something like that. Josie is right, she knows
all about this. She's watched this movie upteen times. Labor
(07:16):
need to come in with a comprehensive tax that is
wide and sweeping, but people get something on the other side.
It's senile going and going in and looking like you are.
This inheritance thief is a quick way to go to opposition.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I agree with you. We have to leave it there
because I need to talk to you about this Pad.
I've got a text, Heather, you must get new Plymouth
legiond Paddy g to take on the town pool swimwear
prood fest.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, well I'll take it on. I mean, I've spent many,
many years of my life at the carter Rs stuff.
And you know where was the G string when I
was the G string trend when I was fifteen years
old in nineteen ninety two. You know we're about time,
you know, so I'm driving up for here tonight. Actually,
(08:03):
you're a.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Brave man, Patty. You're a very brave man. If if
you've never worn a G string obviously, Patty, I'm I'm
not judging, but I'll.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Be wearing one tomorrow at Cara Bars, and so will
my dad, Gordon Gower, who was seventy three years old.
He get us both one well free the bum.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Can you just just just arbitrate this for me, This
is a prudish thing to do, right, Get the bum out.
If you want to tan your bum, go for your life.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yes, it's an indoor poll though, if you want.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
To get your bum out and walk around, go for
your life.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
And it's like, and I think it hadn't be all
bums are equaled, like not just a night bum, but
a fat bumb and the oddly shit bum. Whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Mean, look, the world's going to hell and a hand
basket wars are breaking out. We're about to elect in
the US a convicted sellon whose picture electorate is I
did not sleep with a porn star? And what are
we doing in New Zealand having petition about banning g
strength You know what?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
There is there is something about that that's oddly comforting. Guys,
Thank you. I appreciate his. Patty Gower, Joe Spagania, common
sense Huddle this evening.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
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