July 22, 2024 • 10 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, Trish Sherson from Sherson Willis PR and Josie Pagani from Child Fund joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
Joe Biden has officially dropped out of the US presidential race - and pulled his support behind Vice President Kamala Harris. Is the way he stepped down problematic? Does Kamala Harris stand a chance?
Is the Warehouse struggling? Do we still shop there?
There's concern food giants want to introduce stricter controls on the packaging of infant formula and the sale of it - they want formula to only be sold in pharmacies and medical settings. Is this crazy?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
On the huddle with me. This evening we got Trish
Sharson of Sherson Willis PR and Joseph BEGANI, the CEO
of ChildFund, Hello you too. Hello, Biden has gone before
we carry on. There is a bit of a competition
here because this is what you said on this show
exactly a week ago.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Biden will have to step down. I don't think he's
it's tenable now for him. He might get a couple
of weeks, but then he will have to go.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
And this was you, Josie.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
I actually think Biden could be gone by the end
of this week.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And Josie wins. Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Rash I went and look, I just think you could
see the signs of it. There's no way you can
hang on with that kind of pressure. So I actually
I expected it this weekend. I thought it had to
be this. It was absolutely the last minute and amazing
like he didn't leak because he didn't tell anybody, and
I can understand that you can't tell anybody. It would
(00:55):
definitely have leaked. But right I'm on the list for
the Republicans and the Democrats to get all email bluff,
and right up until Sunday morning, I was getting stuff going.
Biden's in it for the long term, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But this is what you say until you change your mind. Right,
I'm sure you say the other thing.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
But it's interesting. All his staff now have been told
that they now work for the Kamala Harris Harris campaign.
All that money, about ninety six million dollars worth of it, Yeah,
black cash goes straight to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I just want to say, I don't want you to
feel bad, Trish, because I mean, it was just a
tight win, wasn't it. You called it as well, you
just didn't call the date.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
That's very kind. I love it how everyone's a winner
on your show.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, no they're not.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Let's be honest, they're not.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
There are many who.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Are not winners on this show. And reluctantly come on, hey,
it was pretty bratty, don't you think trash trash of
him endorsing Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Well, it was. But also let's take a step back
and look at what also probably was the final push.
Because I don't know about you guys, but I was
absolutely riveted to the circus that was the final day
of the Republican National Congress. Yeah, you know, I loved it.
There was there was such a juxtaposition in the Washington
(02:03):
Post put out this headline and it said, and they've
just wrapped up an energized, focused convention, where as someone
else said, this is an interesting description of a Republican
gathering that featured a sex worker, Hulk Hogan, and a
spaced out Trump. I mean that Trump. That Trump's speech
was wild. It was the longest presidential speech ever. He
(02:26):
within about thirty seconds, blew up everything his speech writers
had prepped, all the groundwork that prepped this will be
about unity. It was classic Trump. It was rambling, incoherent, vindictive,
self serving. And interestingly, what crystallized in the final hour
of that convention was this view that Trump has gone
(02:47):
up against Biden with a very martro campaign, you know,
culminating in Hulk Hogan and the head of the USC.
Those were his big star powers. Well, that now is
not going to work against Carmala Harris. Say whatever you
like about Harris, but there is now an absolute juxtaposition.
And for those voters who were saying it's not good
(03:10):
enough for the US to have two old white men.
They are now potentially going to have Trump and Carmala Harris,
who is not an old white man. So it just
got a whole lot more interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Can she win?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Well, you know, I would have said no, and I
do think that there has to be a competitive nomination.
I would favor that. So what you're seeing the Democrats,
but the polls are showing something slightly different, So I
think I'm going to be wrong about that. She does
have a pathway to victory. So the Democrats are now
split between those Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and so on who
(03:43):
think that this should be a competitive motion. And I
think that would work better for her because a she'd
have a mandate, you know, be she would distance herself
from the Biden Yes campaign, and she'd be able to
talk for herself, and that's been her problem all along.
I think that when she came into the presidential election
in twenty twenty, she came in as a tough on law,
(04:04):
tough on crime, law and order Democrat. That was a
moment in the Democrats' history where they thought, no, we
want an identity politics, black lives matter candidate, talk about
your identity don't talk about your policy job as a
prosecutor in San Francisco, California, where she had a real
record for being tough on crime, and I think that's
why people felt like she sounded inauthentic in that twenty
(04:26):
twenty campaign, and they've never quite got over that, the
feeling that she's saying what she thinks the Democratic base
want to hear. So now she's got a chance. I
think if she had a competitive process to really pitch
her own voice, go back to who she really is,
which is a tough on crime, blue collar democrat. So
you know, I think it's just going to be a coronation,
(04:48):
but she's got to find her own voice.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Trist do you still shop at the warehouse?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I haven't for years. But I have to admit, is
this because your kids are too old now? Exactly so
in the past, when I would have gone to the warehouse,
it would have been, like you, a last minute panic
for party lands, party, fake birthday party bags or things.
I don't have kids now, And actually, I think when
it comes to the warehouse, we're just it's part of
(05:16):
the shift in our patterns. Think about when Steven Tindall
started the warehouse. You couldn't buy cheap stuff crack in
New Zealand there was nowhere so there you can buy
is cheap crapp that's right. So it was really new
and interesting. But now if I want a spade, I
go to Bunnings. If I want you know, if I
want other things, I'll go to.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Go If you need a football or a tent.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I bought intent at the warehouse Nowaday for my young
five year old nephew and it cost me forty dollars.
I think the problem for the warehouse is that they
just haven't innovated or updated in twenty years. It's a
bit stale, looks the same as it's looked for twenty years.
Whereas k Mar it's just a cooler, right, which is
eating their lunch. It's a bit cooler. There's more kind
(05:57):
of weird.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The warehouse has got whichk Mart doesn't have is Camart
is only in the big cities and the warehouse is
still in their provincial areas. Right so if you need
a headband on a Sunday night because your neece.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Didn't get head bands for five dollars, it was a bargain.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
But Came is also online it came out, is awesome online.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Can't wait for ten days for the block?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Well not you if you're not organized, But if you
want the stuff from Kmart you can. And hey, as
a mum, this is no judgment. I have I have
been racing late to parties without anything. But but have
you bought the cheap.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
One dollar glasses at the warehouse even after your kids
have left home?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Hey, I'm the mum who won. Or trash is one
program a birthday candle in a McDonald's, you know, snow
freeze and and called that a birthday cake. So there
is no judgment.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This is a great impact. I'm gonna remember that, all right, guys,
we'll rip the food people a new one on the
Infant Formula.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Next the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, Unparalleled
reach and results.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Back on the Huddle with Tresherson and JOSEPHGANI or right, Trish,
what do you make of the Infant formula rules?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think it's absolutely ridiculous. Here's the thing, right, here's
a scenario. You're a young mum, it's ten o'clock at night.
Baby is absolutely losing its shit and you need to
whip down to the supermarket and get your formula. Oh,
you can't do that now, because you'll have to go
to a pharmacy or a nightition. Please no. And one
of the best pieces of vice my mother ever gave
(07:26):
me when I had my first baby. I rang her
after about week ten and said, Mom, how long does
this go on? And she said, what do you mean
the baby? I said no, I said getting up in
the night. And she said, well, he's a big boy.
Good farming advice, he's a big boy. After twelve weeks,
No one needs to get up in the night. You
do the ten o'clock feed with a big bottle of
(07:47):
formula because by that stage, as you know, mum's lost
the you know, lost the volume and productivity on the
old milk. Give it the formula. Sleep through the night.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah. And I my first child was really reflexing trouble breastfeeding.
We tried everything, We had all sorts of sort of
training and advice and so on, and she was losing
weight and I was losing my mind. And you go,
how is it that these people think they know better
than mums about what's best for the baby and what's
best for them. A psychotic mother unable to feed her
(08:17):
baby is not going to be good for the baby. Now,
I mean, I work in developments.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
She could take formula, but not bridal.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Absolutely, she could only take formula with gaviscon to thicken
it up. Otherwise she would have lost weight, she would
have got sick. I mean, the idea that there's just
one idea. Of course, breast milk is best, although the
evidence around for how long is very mixed. And they're
trying to say, oh, you know, breastfeed for two years
or six months or whatever, and actually the evidence as
(08:44):
I understand it, only says up to six weeks. Definitely,
those first few weeks, if you can get that first
milk into baby, great, And you know, like I work
in developing countries where the water might be really contaminated,
and then formula is not going to be good for
your baby. Yes, that's not formula's fault, that's the fault. Yes,
And so they go, you know, we go breastfeed, breastfeed,
But the point is there's not one size fits all.
(09:06):
For God's sake, you call them breast Nazis. We do
over use the word Nazi on things like bad grammar
and breastfeeding. But you know, there we go. They are
breast fundamentalists. Well, I would not be telling us what
to do.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Everybody needs a mum, a galo in their life. It
might not be your mum, but a mum that an
older person who you can talk to and get that
kind of practical advice. Do these dicks out of a job, yes,
do the dicks out of the dicks out of a job.
That's what young mums need. They need support and they
need to know whatever way you can get through with
(09:40):
you and your baby happy and healthy, that is the
best way for you.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Maybe is alive. When that baby is twenty five years old,
he's not going to be like, oh, jeers, I look
at the how difficient I ame because you didn't give me.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
My kids are and they're perfectly fine, and we are
I was. I was formula fed too. I know. Look,
I would love to have breastfeed my kids a bit longer,
but that you know, especially my first baby. But look,
we're between us, we've got six breasts. We're a good
focus group.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
This is absolute. Polls.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Stop telling us what to do to right, I love
it all right.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Guys, thank you very much. Really stop thinking about the
Boobs Right now, Tricius and Joe SPEGANI are huddle this.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Evening for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live
to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty exceptional marketing
for every property.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On the huddle with me. This evening we got Trish
Sharson of Sherson Willis PR and Joseph BEGANI, the CEO
of ChildFund, Hello you too. Hello, Biden has gone before
we carry on. There is a bit of a competition
here because this is what you said on this show
exactly a week ago.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Biden will have to step down. I don't think he's
it's tenable now for him. He might get a couple
of weeks, but then he will have to go.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
And this was you, Josie.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
I actually think Biden could be gone by the end
of this week.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And Josie wins. Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Rash I went and look, I just think you could
see the signs of it. There's no way you can
hang on with that kind of pressure. So I actually
I expected it this weekend. I thought it had to
be this. It was absolutely the last minute and amazing
like he didn't leak because he didn't tell anybody, and
I can understand that you can't tell anybody. It would
(00:55):
definitely have leaked. But right I'm on the list for
the Republicans and the Democrats to get all email bluff,
and right up until Sunday morning, I was getting stuff going.
Biden's in it for the long term, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But this is what you say until you change your mind. Right,
I'm sure you say the other thing.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
But it's interesting. All his staff now have been told
that they now work for the Kamala Harris Harris campaign.
All that money, about ninety six million dollars worth of it, Yeah,
black cash goes straight to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I just want to say, I don't want you to
feel bad, Trish, because I mean, it was just a
tight win, wasn't it. You called it as well, you
just didn't call the date.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
That's very kind. I love it how everyone's a winner
on your show.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, no they're not.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Let's be honest, they're not.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
There are many who.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Are not winners on this show. And reluctantly come on, hey,
it was pretty bratty, don't you think trash trash of
him endorsing Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Well, it was. But also let's take a step back
and look at what also probably was the final push.
Because I don't know about you guys, but I was
absolutely riveted to the circus that was the final day
of the Republican National Congress. Yeah, you know, I loved it.
There was there was such a juxtaposition in the Washington
(02:03):
Post put out this headline and it said, and they've
just wrapped up an energized, focused convention, where as someone
else said, this is an interesting description of a Republican
gathering that featured a sex worker, Hulk Hogan, and a
spaced out Trump. I mean that Trump. That Trump's speech
was wild. It was the longest presidential speech ever. He
(02:26):
within about thirty seconds, blew up everything his speech writers
had prepped, all the groundwork that prepped this will be
about unity. It was classic Trump. It was rambling, incoherent, vindictive,
self serving. And interestingly, what crystallized in the final hour
of that convention was this view that Trump has gone
(02:47):
up against Biden with a very martro campaign, you know,
culminating in Hulk Hogan and the head of the USC.
Those were his big star powers. Well, that now is
not going to work against Carmala Harris. Say whatever you
like about Harris, but there is now an absolute juxtaposition.
And for those voters who were saying it's not good
(03:10):
enough for the US to have two old white men.
They are now potentially going to have Trump and Carmala Harris,
who is not an old white man. So it just
got a whole lot more interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Can she win?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Well, you know, I would have said no, and I
do think that there has to be a competitive nomination.
I would favor that. So what you're seeing the Democrats,
but the polls are showing something slightly different, So I
think I'm going to be wrong about that. She does
have a pathway to victory. So the Democrats are now
split between those Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and so on who
(03:43):
think that this should be a competitive motion. And I
think that would work better for her because a she'd
have a mandate, you know, be she would distance herself
from the Biden Yes campaign, and she'd be able to
talk for herself, and that's been her problem all along.
I think that when she came into the presidential election
in twenty twenty, she came in as a tough on law,
(04:04):
tough on crime, law and order Democrat. That was a
moment in the Democrats' history where they thought, no, we
want an identity politics, black lives matter candidate, talk about
your identity don't talk about your policy job as a
prosecutor in San Francisco, California, where she had a real
record for being tough on crime, and I think that's
why people felt like she sounded inauthentic in that twenty
(04:26):
twenty campaign, and they've never quite got over that, the
feeling that she's saying what she thinks the Democratic base
want to hear. So now she's got a chance. I
think if she had a competitive process to really pitch
her own voice, go back to who she really is,
which is a tough on crime, blue collar democrat. So
you know, I think it's just going to be a coronation,
(04:48):
but she's got to find her own voice.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Trist do you still shop at the warehouse?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I haven't for years. But I have to admit, is
this because your kids are too old now? Exactly so
in the past, when I would have gone to the warehouse,
it would have been, like you, a last minute panic
for party lands, party, fake birthday party bags or things.
I don't have kids now, And actually, I think when
it comes to the warehouse, we're just it's part of
(05:16):
the shift in our patterns. Think about when Steven Tindall
started the warehouse. You couldn't buy cheap stuff crack in
New Zealand there was nowhere so there you can buy
is cheap crapp that's right. So it was really new
and interesting. But now if I want a spade, I
go to Bunnings. If I want you know, if I
want other things, I'll go to.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Go If you need a football or a tent.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I bought intent at the warehouse Nowaday for my young
five year old nephew and it cost me forty dollars.
I think the problem for the warehouse is that they
just haven't innovated or updated in twenty years. It's a
bit stale, looks the same as it's looked for twenty years.
Whereas k Mar it's just a cooler, right, which is
eating their lunch. It's a bit cooler. There's more kind
(05:57):
of weird.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The warehouse has got whichk Mart doesn't have is Camart
is only in the big cities and the warehouse is
still in their provincial areas. Right so if you need
a headband on a Sunday night because your neece.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Didn't get head bands for five dollars, it was a bargain.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
But Came is also online it came out, is awesome online.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Can't wait for ten days for the block?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Well not you if you're not organized, But if you
want the stuff from Kmart you can. And hey, as
a mum, this is no judgment. I have I have
been racing late to parties without anything. But but have
you bought the cheap.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
One dollar glasses at the warehouse even after your kids
have left home?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Hey, I'm the mum who won. Or trash is one
program a birthday candle in a McDonald's, you know, snow
freeze and and called that a birthday cake. So there
is no judgment.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This is a great impact. I'm gonna remember that, all right, guys,
we'll rip the food people a new one on the
Infant Formula.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Next the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, Unparalleled
reach and results.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Back on the Huddle with Tresherson and JOSEPHGANI or right, Trish,
what do you make of the Infant formula rules?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think it's absolutely ridiculous. Here's the thing, right, here's
a scenario. You're a young mum, it's ten o'clock at night.
Baby is absolutely losing its shit and you need to
whip down to the supermarket and get your formula. Oh,
you can't do that now, because you'll have to go
to a pharmacy or a nightition. Please no. And one
of the best pieces of vice my mother ever gave
(07:26):
me when I had my first baby. I rang her
after about week ten and said, Mom, how long does
this go on? And she said, what do you mean
the baby? I said no, I said getting up in
the night. And she said, well, he's a big boy.
Good farming advice, he's a big boy. After twelve weeks,
No one needs to get up in the night. You
do the ten o'clock feed with a big bottle of
(07:47):
formula because by that stage, as you know, mum's lost
the you know, lost the volume and productivity on the
old milk. Give it the formula. Sleep through the night.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah. And I my first child was really reflexing trouble breastfeeding.
We tried everything, We had all sorts of sort of
training and advice and so on, and she was losing
weight and I was losing my mind. And you go,
how is it that these people think they know better
than mums about what's best for the baby and what's
best for them. A psychotic mother unable to feed her
(08:17):
baby is not going to be good for the baby. Now,
I mean, I work in developments.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
She could take formula, but not bridal.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Absolutely, she could only take formula with gaviscon to thicken
it up. Otherwise she would have lost weight, she would
have got sick. I mean, the idea that there's just
one idea. Of course, breast milk is best, although the
evidence around for how long is very mixed. And they're
trying to say, oh, you know, breastfeed for two years
or six months or whatever, and actually the evidence as
(08:44):
I understand it, only says up to six weeks. Definitely,
those first few weeks, if you can get that first
milk into baby, great, And you know, like I work
in developing countries where the water might be really contaminated,
and then formula is not going to be good for
your baby. Yes, that's not formula's fault, that's the fault. Yes,
And so they go, you know, we go breastfeed, breastfeed,
But the point is there's not one size fits all.
(09:06):
For God's sake, you call them breast Nazis. We do
over use the word Nazi on things like bad grammar
and breastfeeding. But you know, there we go. They are
breast fundamentalists. Well, I would not be telling us what
to do.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Everybody needs a mum, a galo in their life. It
might not be your mum, but a mum that an
older person who you can talk to and get that
kind of practical advice. Do these dicks out of a job, yes,
do the dicks out of the dicks out of a job.
That's what young mums need. They need support and they
need to know whatever way you can get through with
(09:40):
you and your baby happy and healthy, that is the
best way for you.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Maybe is alive. When that baby is twenty five years old,
he's not going to be like, oh, jeers, I look
at the how difficient I ame because you didn't give me.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
My kids are and they're perfectly fine, and we are
I was. I was formula fed too. I know. Look,
I would love to have breastfeed my kids a bit longer,
but that you know, especially my first baby. But look,
we're between us, we've got six breasts. We're a good
focus group.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
This is absolute. Polls.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Stop telling us what to do to right, I love
it all right.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Guys, thank you very much. Really stop thinking about the
Boobs Right now, Tricius and Joe SPEGANI are huddle this.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Evening for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live
to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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