July 25, 2024 • 9 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, journalist Clare de Lore and Radio Hauraki's Matt Heath joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
Canada has copped backlash from all over the world after it was revealed they were spying on two separate Football Ferns training sessions ahead of the Olympics. Should the team get punished?
There's growing calls to compensate victims following the Royal Commission of Inquiry's findings on abuse in state and faith-based care. Is this the way to go?
Republican politicians have labelled Kamala Harris a 'diversity hire' in their efforts to tear down the Democratic Party. Is this seriously a political strategy?
New research has revealed more and more young people suffer from preventable hearing loss. How can we intervene early?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
With me this even we've got Matt Heath of Radio
Hoarchy and Clear de Laud journalist. Hello, are you too
good afternoon? All right? What punishment do you want meeting
out to the Canadian football team.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Matt Wow, Well, collective punishment, so all the whole team
that have been training for four years, the reigning champions.
Punishment for them, I don't know, like I think morally
are probably no punishment but from a purely patriotic, biased
New Zealand side. Sure, we'll push for the two points
because we're not going to get them in a normal
play by play fashion.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Are We're not going to get them by winning?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
No, we're not giving by the winning. What I think
strange about it is what were they looking to find
from our strategy?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You know what I say?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That's the football Ferns. What are you doing night at
the back?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Kicking as far away from the goal as you possibly can?
And I hopes it doesn't come back clear.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It says to me, Look, I mean it's the fact
that they're spying on us. Says to me that they
just spy as a matter of course, right, and for
that reason they to be punished quite severely to stop this.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Who did they think we were and what did they
think they stood to gain as champions? It's really pretty
weird chieving and sports seems to be and demic, and
maybe they just thought, oh well, maybe it's a turn
to have it go. But it defies our kind of
conceptions about Canadians. We think they're like us, yeah, warm friendly,
you know, we're all and Laura bading people compared to
(01:28):
the you know, moll stroppy Americans and Australians. But it
turns out they're not. I think take the points off them,
make them play the game, and make them and I
drink warm beer and have KFC afterwards.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
They hate us to that too, write I think they
do need to be punished. Okay, listen, what are we
going to do here? We obviously met Obviously the compo
idea is flying right with the government because they're looking
at the redress. Do you think they will get away
paying redress to gang members.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, it's an incredibly complex issue, isn't it, Because obviously
there's a cause for every crime. There's a cause for
everything and an effect. And if that's caused you to
be in a gang member, how do you evaluate that?
And I reckon some problems in our society don't have
a clean, black and white solution, do they? Some things
are just gray. And while some people deserve compensation, I'm
(02:21):
sure if compensation is actually what's going to help you,
I don't think of money. If you've got those deep
set problems that have caused you to go into a
life of crime, that money is going to solve that problem.
So are there other things we can do? But sometimes
you've just.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Got to go.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
This problem is so incredibly freaking complex. And if you
start not blaming people by virtue of what's happened to
them in the past, then the whole justice system completely collapses,
doesn't it, Because everything is based on something that's happened
in your past. Course, So I don't know. I don't know.
But if someone's been abused in state care, then I
(02:57):
don't know whoever they are. Are we going to nickel and
dime them and getting some money? Look, I tell you what,
I've been thinking about this all day, and I've been
listening to it, and I can honestly say I don't
know if there's a correct answer for it.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, I've wandered about this as well. Clear because it
is a little complicated to be paying compensation to pick
to some of these people, right, some of them, like
as we know, have got alcohol and drug issues. If
you give direct money to them, they're just going to
blow it on that. That's not helping the situation. And
then from a political perspective, giving money to gang members
is probably not a great thing as well, So what do.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You do politically? There's also not a good thing to
be picking between survivors of youth right to decide who
is deserving. They all deserve compassion, they all deserve redresses.
That happens, now, that's quite right. You know, money can't
make up what's happened to them, But how do you
pick and choose? I know, for example, to do with scam,
(03:48):
I think it's two hundred thousand dollars per person, and
there's no limit on the number of their survivors who
can apply for that, and some people will have rug
and alcohol problems. Maybe one hundred k of it will
go really quickly. Maybe there are people who will stand
by and give them advice on like how can you
(04:09):
actually maximize this to make this painful life a bit
better later in your life.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You don't have to pay the money. That's the other
thing as well. Right, what they're talking about is potentially
just redressing other forms like paying for new teeth, paying
for tattoos being removed, giving them housing.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Well, I think that that's going to be quite difficult
to work out an equal form formed li it that
gives everybody the same degree of respect. I think paying
choosing between them is going to be extremely difficult. You know,
yesterday Parliament was in great agreement that a terrible wrong
(04:49):
had happened to all these people and that we would
stand by them now. And to then say well, we're
not sure about your lifestyle. I mean I would have
the same misgivings you have. But I don't think that
justifies are saying you're going to have to past some
sort of test and be satisfied with having your teeth done.
I don't think it's going to fly.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
So we want the best outcome for the people, don't we.
So we need to find that out. Are we handing
out cash to make ourselves feel better as a nation
and to make ourselves feel better? I think probably you
need to do all the work you can around it
to say what's going to be the best thing for
the people that have faced this terrible, terrible thing. And
if the money's not going to help them, then what
else will? But something needs to be done.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, totally, something does need to be done. I would
agree with that. All right, we'll take a break.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
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Speaker 1 (05:39):
Right back to the huddle, clear to law Matt Heath. Now, Claire,
Apparently the Republicans have been told to stop calling Karmela
a diversity higher. Do you think that's a good idea?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Well, I mean, who would have thought you'd have to
be so long than that? But look at them, it
goop smacked. I mean, she's been there hiding and playing
sight the whole time Biden's being president. Has been a
very quiet and conspicuous sort advice president. But she has
really changed the game. And now they're saying, for example,
you know she's too bad, she's two Asian, too liberal,
(06:10):
she laughs too much, apparently, And of course there's been
a lot of focus on what they call her word sellers.
But I don't think that I'm having changed the game.
The Republicans are now scrambling to have a streak of
decency in the campaign, which was clearly going to be
aimed at taking Joe Biden apart, and so now they're
(06:31):
having to look at themselves and work out how are
they going to continue in their merry way without alienating
the women who spoke made It was surprising to me
the number of women who voted to Trump when he
Maske became president. Astonishingly he attracted a lot of the voters.
And so this time around, I think she has changed
(06:51):
it a game that is political game.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I think the reason, Matt, why they've been told to
stop calling her diversity higher is because actually the fact
that she is a black lady and a lady is
actually some of her best attributes. Yeah, what's exciting her voters?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I know, But it's a classic playbook, isn't it from
the Washington Post, who's deeply biased, And it's a classic
line for them to blame a whole side for the
You find the worst people from one side and blame
the whole side for it, and it doesn't really work
because all those people that you're saying, oh you Republicans,
Republicans are like that. That's half the country, and most
of them know they aren't what they're being told they are.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
A deplorable argument.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, exactly. So if you know, until the Democratic Party
realize that there's something of worth on the other side
and not just picking the worst examples in ragging on it,
then they can continue to have problems as a party.
And that goes for the other side as well. Just
picking the worst examples doesn't work because the people that
are voting for Republicans, many of them know they're not
(07:47):
that person that you describe.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, fair point. Now clear Listen. Do you use headphones?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Not very much. I've lose them a lot, but I
don't use them as much of those.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Okay, so you've got perfect hearing, then you won't have
a problem at all.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Well, I've got pretty good hearing. My husband used to
say I mumbled a lot, but when he got hearing aids,
my mumbling was good.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
What a surprise you, though, Matt. This is your industry, right,
you have to every day for hours on and then
have headphones on your head. Are you aware of keeping
that volume down?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
It's terrifying how much of abuse my hearing over the years.
I can't believe I can hear it at all. I
was in bands for years. I never took any steps
at all to protect my hearing. On the radio every
day for ten years now, I've had it on ridiculously loud.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You have it on loud, I stop it.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I know. And my dad's got terrible hearing and he's
got hearing aids on. But further to that point about
the things that you hear when you get hearing aids,
my dad had to get a new car when he
got his hearing aids in because he thought his car
had been showing off about how well it run. Got
his hearing aids in and then it was realized it
was a rattling piece of crap and had to invest
in a new vehicle. So there's downsides of that as well.
But yeah, I'm going to pay. I'm going to pay
(08:54):
the piper for it. And I think if anyone has
the discipline to look after their hearing, do it, and
do it, do it while you're young. But how do
you tell kids to turn their How do you tell
kids to turn their personal headphones down when you don't
even know what volume they've got in their headphones. So
you can go into their phone and put the limitter on,
but they're going to turn it off, that's right, and it's.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Just another thing to nag them about, which is irritating.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Thank you to both of you, appreciate it. Matt Heath
Radio heard I could clear to Lord Journalist.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live to
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We've got a statement from the Otaga Regional councilor get
you across the detail. Shortly nineteen away from.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Six the huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty exceptional
marketing for every property on the huddle.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
With me this even we've got Matt Heath of Radio
Hoarchy and Clear de Laud journalist. Hello, are you too
good afternoon? All right? What punishment do you want meeting
out to the Canadian football team.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Matt Wow, Well, collective punishment, so all the whole team
that have been training for four years, the reigning champions.
Punishment for them, I don't know, like I think morally
are probably no punishment but from a purely patriotic, biased
New Zealand side. Sure, we'll push for the two points
because we're not going to get them in a normal
play by play fashion.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Are We're not going to get them by winning?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
No, we're not giving by the winning. What I think
strange about it is what were they looking to find
from our strategy?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You know what I say?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That's the football Ferns. What are you doing night at
the back?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Kicking as far away from the goal as you possibly can?
And I hopes it doesn't come back clear.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It says to me, Look, I mean it's the fact
that they're spying on us. Says to me that they
just spy as a matter of course, right, and for
that reason they to be punished quite severely to stop this.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Who did they think we were and what did they
think they stood to gain as champions? It's really pretty
weird chieving and sports seems to be and demic, and
maybe they just thought, oh well, maybe it's a turn
to have it go. But it defies our kind of
conceptions about Canadians. We think they're like us, yeah, warm friendly,
you know, we're all and Laura bading people compared to
(01:28):
the you know, moll stroppy Americans and Australians. But it
turns out they're not. I think take the points off them,
make them play the game, and make them and I
drink warm beer and have KFC afterwards.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
They hate us to that too, write I think they
do need to be punished. Okay, listen, what are we
going to do here? We obviously met Obviously the compo
idea is flying right with the government because they're looking
at the redress. Do you think they will get away
paying redress to gang members.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, it's an incredibly complex issue, isn't it, Because obviously
there's a cause for every crime. There's a cause for
everything and an effect. And if that's caused you to
be in a gang member, how do you evaluate that?
And I reckon some problems in our society don't have
a clean, black and white solution, do they? Some things
are just gray. And while some people deserve compensation, I'm
(02:21):
sure if compensation is actually what's going to help you,
I don't think of money. If you've got those deep
set problems that have caused you to go into a
life of crime, that money is going to solve that problem.
So are there other things we can do? But sometimes
you've just.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Got to go.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
This problem is so incredibly freaking complex. And if you
start not blaming people by virtue of what's happened to
them in the past, then the whole justice system completely collapses,
doesn't it, Because everything is based on something that's happened
in your past. Course, So I don't know. I don't know.
But if someone's been abused in state care, then I
(02:57):
don't know whoever they are. Are we going to nickel and
dime them and getting some money? Look, I tell you what,
I've been thinking about this all day, and I've been
listening to it, and I can honestly say I don't
know if there's a correct answer for it.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, I've wandered about this as well. Clear because it
is a little complicated to be paying compensation to pick
to some of these people, right, some of them, like
as we know, have got alcohol and drug issues. If
you give direct money to them, they're just going to
blow it on that. That's not helping the situation. And
then from a political perspective, giving money to gang members
is probably not a great thing as well, So what do.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You do politically? There's also not a good thing to
be picking between survivors of youth right to decide who
is deserving. They all deserve compassion, they all deserve redresses.
That happens, now, that's quite right. You know, money can't
make up what's happened to them, But how do you
pick and choose? I know, for example, to do with scam,
(03:48):
I think it's two hundred thousand dollars per person, and
there's no limit on the number of their survivors who
can apply for that, and some people will have rug
and alcohol problems. Maybe one hundred k of it will
go really quickly. Maybe there are people who will stand
by and give them advice on like how can you
(04:09):
actually maximize this to make this painful life a bit
better later in your life.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You don't have to pay the money. That's the other
thing as well. Right, what they're talking about is potentially
just redressing other forms like paying for new teeth, paying
for tattoos being removed, giving them housing.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Well, I think that that's going to be quite difficult
to work out an equal form formed li it that
gives everybody the same degree of respect. I think paying
choosing between them is going to be extremely difficult. You know,
yesterday Parliament was in great agreement that a terrible wrong
(04:49):
had happened to all these people and that we would
stand by them now. And to then say well, we're
not sure about your lifestyle. I mean I would have
the same misgivings you have. But I don't think that
justifies are saying you're going to have to past some
sort of test and be satisfied with having your teeth done.
I don't think it's going to fly.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
So we want the best outcome for the people, don't we.
So we need to find that out. Are we handing
out cash to make ourselves feel better as a nation
and to make ourselves feel better? I think probably you
need to do all the work you can around it
to say what's going to be the best thing for
the people that have faced this terrible, terrible thing. And
if the money's not going to help them, then what
else will? But something needs to be done.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, totally, something does need to be done. I would
agree with that. All right, we'll take a break.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty, unparalleled reach
and results.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Right back to the huddle, clear to law Matt Heath. Now, Claire,
Apparently the Republicans have been told to stop calling Karmela
a diversity higher. Do you think that's a good idea?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Well, I mean, who would have thought you'd have to
be so long than that? But look at them, it
goop smacked. I mean, she's been there hiding and playing
sight the whole time Biden's being president. Has been a
very quiet and conspicuous sort advice president. But she has
really changed the game. And now they're saying, for example,
you know she's too bad, she's two Asian, too liberal,
(06:10):
she laughs too much, apparently, And of course there's been
a lot of focus on what they call her word sellers.
But I don't think that I'm having changed the game.
The Republicans are now scrambling to have a streak of
decency in the campaign, which was clearly going to be
aimed at taking Joe Biden apart, and so now they're
(06:31):
having to look at themselves and work out how are
they going to continue in their merry way without alienating
the women who spoke made It was surprising to me
the number of women who voted to Trump when he
Maske became president. Astonishingly he attracted a lot of the voters.
And so this time around, I think she has changed
(06:51):
it a game that is political game.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I think the reason, Matt, why they've been told to
stop calling her diversity higher is because actually the fact
that she is a black lady and a lady is
actually some of her best attributes. Yeah, what's exciting her voters?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I know, But it's a classic playbook, isn't it from
the Washington Post, who's deeply biased, And it's a classic
line for them to blame a whole side for the
You find the worst people from one side and blame
the whole side for it, and it doesn't really work
because all those people that you're saying, oh you Republicans,
Republicans are like that. That's half the country, and most
of them know they aren't what they're being told they are.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
A deplorable argument.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, exactly. So if you know, until the Democratic Party
realize that there's something of worth on the other side
and not just picking the worst examples in ragging on it,
then they can continue to have problems as a party.
And that goes for the other side as well. Just
picking the worst examples doesn't work because the people that
are voting for Republicans, many of them know they're not
(07:47):
that person that you describe.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, fair point. Now clear Listen. Do you use headphones?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Not very much. I've lose them a lot, but I
don't use them as much of those.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Okay, so you've got perfect hearing, then you won't have
a problem at all.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Well, I've got pretty good hearing. My husband used to
say I mumbled a lot, but when he got hearing aids,
my mumbling was good.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
What a surprise you, though, Matt. This is your industry, right,
you have to every day for hours on and then
have headphones on your head. Are you aware of keeping
that volume down?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
It's terrifying how much of abuse my hearing over the years.
I can't believe I can hear it at all. I
was in bands for years. I never took any steps
at all to protect my hearing. On the radio every
day for ten years now, I've had it on ridiculously loud.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You have it on loud, I stop it.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I know. And my dad's got terrible hearing and he's
got hearing aids on. But further to that point about
the things that you hear when you get hearing aids,
my dad had to get a new car when he
got his hearing aids in because he thought his car
had been showing off about how well it run. Got
his hearing aids in and then it was realized it
was a rattling piece of crap and had to invest
in a new vehicle. So there's downsides of that as well.
But yeah, I'm going to pay. I'm going to pay
(08:54):
the piper for it. And I think if anyone has
the discipline to look after their hearing, do it, and
do it, do it while you're young. But how do
you tell kids to turn their How do you tell
kids to turn their personal headphones down when you don't
even know what volume they've got in their headphones. So
you can go into their phone and put the limitter on,
but they're going to turn it off, that's right, and it's.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Just another thing to nag them about, which is irritating.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Thank you to both of you, appreciate it. Matt Heath
Radio heard I could clear to Lord Journalist.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live to
News Talk said Be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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